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Milingo to Launch the 3rd Vatican

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Ex-communicated Catholic Archbishop, Emmanuel Milingo says the Movement for Married Priests is in the process of establishing the third Vatican Council to shape the future of the renewed Catholic Church.

Archbishop Milingo said the third Vatican Council will be launched in South Korea before the end of this month.

He told ZNBC news shortly before he and his wife Maria Sung left for South Korea that proposals for the foundation have already been made.

Archbishop Milingo also said the movement is preparing for the Universal Peace Federation meeting.

He indicated that faith based groups will soon hold a symposium on Catholicism.

Archbishop Milingo boasted that his organisation will provide air tickets for delegates from the Zambia Episcopal Conference (ZEC) if they are willing to attend the ceremony.

The Archbishop, 78, leads 150,000 married priests across the world.

He was ex-communicated for holding divergent views from the Catholic Church and marrying priests.

74 COMMENTS

  1. Mudala uyu, afyambile kale, ku Roma in Lusaka, when he established an ‘order of sisters’, under his archdiocese. It is indeed true that religion is the opium of the masses – so many get addicted to believe all & not see reality!!!

  2. Milingo is should be supported and encouraged by all who care for the truth and freedom of religion and conscience. Excommunication is a laughable medieval oppressive tool used by prerenaissance Popes to maintain their grip on political power and extort wealth from the poor. How can any human being have the authority to bar another from God’s presence? In any case, Catholic church means universal church in contradistiction to “Roman” catholic church which means the universal church of Rome. Remember Martin Luther of German? He was a Roman catholic priest who opposed and exposed the Vatican for their fraudulent practice of farcical “sacrament of indulgence” which meant selling forgiveness

  3. to so-called sinners at a fixed price. Martin Luther was similarly excommunicated and he founded the Lutheran Church which is there even in Zambia today. There are a lot of things that are very wrong and ungodly about the Vatican and its Roman catholicism and it takes men of courage like Milingo to come out and challenge the establishment. Our Zambian Bishops/Priests are so subservient to Rome and a disgrace and luck their own identity and ownership of thier faith. Little wonder there is no indigenous Cardinal in Zambia whereas Tanzania, Unganda,Kenya and Nigeria all have indigenous Cardinals who speak for thier people and charter own ways of practising faith within the larger church.When

  4. Takwaba uwakosa ku menshi…..its time for Catholic priests to come out in the open and fulfil there secret craving .

  5. Catholicism is everywhere in the urban areas of Zambia. Zambia has bought into this ism idealogy way too much. Its like the catholic movement didn’t want to miss the opportunity to remind the Zambian people that they were in the country to ‘brainwash’ the masses: the schools, european style church buildings and teachings, political and business involvements etc.

    As a Zambian, all I would say is all the best to milingo with his flava of doctrine.

  6. QUOTE: Times of Zambia 06/06/08

    “The former archbishop has an agenda with the Moonies and should choose between them and the Catholic Church. One cannot be both a Moonie and a Catholic,” Fr Chilinda said.

  7. I fear that this man wants to have his cake and eat it. Any decent Christian would just resign the priesthood, get married and remain a lay member of the church. But this man likes the power that go with being a catholic archbishop. You cannot have it both ways man!

  8. Every religion or game has its own rules to follow. If one cannot cope with them he/she is bettter off leaving that system.
    Maria Sung has just confused ba Milingo!. chapwa!

  9. Ba Boss ba Millingo you either are a part of something or you are not. i dont see how you want to combine priesthood and get married. You are 78 years old and you have had your time why do you wanna spoil other pipo’s calling? where were you all those years only to see the need to marry now.If some one wants to marry then they should leave the church.

  10. Priest hood is a calling and not a career, so if any priest feels the need to fall out the should do so gracefully and serve as just ordinary pipo. You dont always need to be on the pulpit to be used by God

  11. I believe milingo is a true servant of God. There is a lot of hypocrisy with so called ‘nuns’ and ‘fathers’. They go against their vows not to marry, but they bear children who are thrown in orphanages, they are dying in number from the scourge of HIV/AIDs. Believers there is no smoke without fire. Support milingo and stop the rot. I salute Anglican fathers who serve their master with a free conscience by being married priests.

  12. I smell a big rotten rat about this Milingo and his new church. My mind always questions why, how, when and what? Like the post editorial comment of yesterday, it leaves one with questions to ask. Christianity has since turned into a business little wonder pastors learn strategy and soul winning. If Millingo is using former married priest as a strategic tool to win souls then his business is short sighted and will sooner than later need strategic refocus and repositioning.

  13. MILINGO is VERY RIGHT. Milingo’s point is that CATHOLIC PRIESTS/ FATHERS/ BISHOPS / POPES etc usually have THRILLING SEX with Catholic Sisters/ Nuns behind VERY TIGHTLY CLOSED DOORS. Milingo was part of this HIDING SEX GROUP but realised THE GROUP CANT CHEAT GOD, better to come out in the open and ALLOW THEM TO BE MARRYING AND SERVING THE ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH GOD TRUTHFULLY. THIS IS A VERY NOTORIOUS TRUTH THAT MANY DONT WANT TO HEAR EVEN WHEN THEY VERY WELL KNOW IT.
    I myself am not Catholic, I have drunk beer and brandy at some parish before. I have had sex with TWO catholic sisters dressed in white and I even felt guilty I was undressing an ANGEL, I ATE THE APPLE. THIS IS REAL we did it.

  14. On the second encounter, a friend of mine came to visit me at my small house in Chelston, LUSAKA with two catholic sisters. Again both of them DRESSED IN PURE WHITE LIKE HOLY ANGELS. My friend were “eating apples” in the spare bedroom with one when the other openly reminded me that they too were human with “ALL VEINS IN THEIR BODIES WORKING EFFECTIVELY”. In short she gave me the apples and we ate. YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE, VERY REAL.
    THIS IS WHAT MILINGO DOES NOT WANT. Milingo is right. When Noah started the boat thing they thought he was mad when he was serving and saving HUMANITY. MILINGO IS SAVING THOSE WHO THINK THEY ARE CHEATING GOD WHEN THEY SCREW NUNS IN THE VATICAN.

  15. ONE DAY, THE DIRTY THAT THE CATHOLIC PRIESTS SWEEP UNCER THAT BIG VATICAN CARPET WILL BE OPEN FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO SEE. YOU CANT FOOL GOD, NEVER. MILINGO HAS SEEN THIS POINT, YOU CANT FOOL GOD, PERIOD.
    “Whoever has not done what this woman has done, let him pick a stone and throw at her” This is what Jesus requested those people who thought were PURE to do to the woman who was caught in adultery. RESULT: The stones started falling off to the ground from their palms instead of stoning the woman.
    PEOPLE WOKE UP AND PREACH THE REAL GOSPEL. GOD IS ALL-KNOWING,ALL MIGHTY, SLOW TO ANGER, EVER FORGIVING, KIND AND LOVING UNCONDITIONALLY. Seek ye while he may be found for the time is NOW.

  16. #20,21 What you and your mate did is the same as committing adultery with other men’s wives. In this civilised world it is best that adulterous wives seek divorce and marry their genies so that continue with their promiscuity after ending the marriage as free persons. You and your “nuns” are very free to agree with your “nuns” to let them divorce the catholic church (no one is held againist their will) and you can continue your sexual activities. Needless to say careers are hard to find nowadays and cruel men for example will opt to become male nurses for lack of alternatives. (APOLOGIES TO MALE NURSES was just illustrating.)

  17. It is irrational for an adulterous wife or indeed the male genie to insist on doing it whilst still in marriage and yet the divorce optionis there. And by the way your story feels like you are spinning the yarn.

  18. MILINGO, ZAMBIANS DON’T NEED YOUR TOURISM TRAVEL TO WHEREEVER. DONT WASTE THAT MONEY. IF INDEED YOU HAVE SUCH MONEY TO SPONSOR TOURISM TRAVEL, I URGE TO INVEST THAT MONEY IN ZAMBIA IN VIABLE PROJECT SUCH AS FARMING OR ANY INDUSTRY WHERE PEOPLE CAN WORK AND EARN A LIVING. EVEN THOSE WHO FOLLOWING HIM ARE BLIND. THE MAN IS JUST ANOTHER CON JIVER. WHEN YOU JOINED COTHOLICS YOU KNEW THAT YOU HAD TO PUT UP WITH ULUPUNDU AND SIGNED PAPERS TO THAT EFFECT. FURTHER STILL YOU CAN BUILD A HOSPITAL WHERE PIPO CAN COME STRAIGHT FOR HEALING INSTEAD OF ATTRACTING EVEN THOSE WHO DO NOT NEED YOUR HEALING-A MENTALITY OF LOAFING. ZAMBIANS WAKE. HE IS A CON MAN BIG TIME.

  19. SUPPORTER NO. 2. ON 19, 20 YOU ARE A PROSTITUTE. YOU GLORY IN ABUSING WOMEN AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE NUNS. SHAME ON YOU. REPENT.

  20. #17, dont waste your time on milingo. go and do some farming. bloggers have said it. there are rules for any environment. i am not a cotholic myself, not even in favor of their approach to worship. but 1 is not forced into being with them. many, (if not all) catholics practice sex behind the scenes big time. humans are weak athough self-control must be practiced. why should you be wasting time for power-hungry milingo. do you think if zambians had jobs milingo would have such a following? no. the thing is people currently have nothing to do. so, milingo provides some form of entertainment.

  21. #19, you are very right most of the people ahve had threaling sex with those those catholics. But dont feel guilty. Those robs nuns wear are just a piece of cloth. And inside those robs are human (woman) bodies. Just like any womanbeing. I have come across a few who have expressed the want/need to get married. But you must understand that, thats a job. And currently have massive unemployment in Zambia. So, finding a well paying job with opportunities to travel is almost nil.

  22. #27 what rules are you talking about, because the same ‘rules’ are broken. The truth shall set you free.

  23. Which Vatican Three is the old man talking about? let us pray for him not cause confusion on faithful catholics.

  24. milingo is coming to know the truth.very soon he will read about the sabath and he wiil be an adventist.preach the word brother.keep it up.
    if i were you i should have just joined seventh the only trie church

  25. Milingo is a senile man who will do or say absolutely anything to stay in the limetlight, anything. A lot of people (including protestants) have left the roman catholic church to start their own churches, why cant he do the same? Becoz he’s scared that he will fade away into oblivion. As for womanising, my wife was going out with her senior pastor at her pentacostal church; now I dont see howz that is any better than nuns and fathers sleeping around (as long as they arent doing it to kids!!). Check out the log in your eyes…

  26. Ba MILINGO wants to launch the 3rd VATICAN, DO they have a second vetican? help me am lost like ba milingo

  27. Hey 37,3rd Vatican is kind of a synod or convention where some practices of the catholic church are reviewed and changed as, and when required.

    In the past, there have been the 1st and 2nd Vatican Convention. Basically, all he is suggesting here is for another of these conventions to address among other things, priests getting married.

    Hope that provides some clarity

  28. As a former catholic and now practicing the hebrew religion I find this whole tirade of people crying for an illegitimate organisation that propagates none scriptural based vain doctrines of men as pointless. The fruit does not fall far from the tree , Bishop Milingo just like Martin Luther, Marcion,Tertullian, Charles russell are not attacking the vatican for what it is but instead want the power of the vatican for themselves. As the scriptures say the ministers of satan will disguise themselves as ministers of righteousness this is exactly it. Instead of teaching whats contained in the bible these so called righteous people are teaching things foreign to it.

  29. #39 A vatican council is not a synod or convention it’s an ecumenical council. They are councils that pass legislative laws to all churches to follow their lawss. The first council was that of Nicea in the year 325 and they have been over 17 of them. They have passed laws that go against the scriptures and establish traditions of men that transgress the commandments. The last council was in 1965 which was the 2nd vatican council. What Milingo wants to do is pure evil and no Man of YHWH can propagate such a thing. The same ecumenical councils are the ones that established demonic doctrines like the trinity, easter, christmas, mary being mother of YHWH(theotokos) etc etc.

  30. #24, Theoretician, while I agree with you about divorce being an option , however, if you’ve read the ‘Marriage Causes Act, 2007(and understand me, I’m not propagating un-chastity here)’ it should be obvious that divorce’s very expensive these days! Infact, venturing on divorce is economically worse than a jail term (at least there’s tax free food in jail ).

  31. “PETERS CONFESSION OF JESUS CHRIST” MATTHEW 16:13B-18 “WHO DO PEOPLE SAY THE SON OF MAN IS? (14) THEY REPLIED, SOME SAY JOHN THE BAPTIST; OTHERS SAY ELIJAH; AND STILL OTHERS, JEREMIAH OR ONE OF THE PROPHETS. (15) BUT WHAT ABOUT YOU? HE ASKED, WHO DO YOU SAY I AM? (16) SIMON PETER ANSWERED, YOU ARE THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. (17) JESUS REPLIED, BLESSED ARE YOU, SIMON SON OF JONAH, FOR THIS WAS NOT REVEALED TO YOU BY MAN, BUT BY MY FATHER IN HEAVEN. (18) AND I TELL YOU THAT YOU PETER, AND ON THIS THE ROCK I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH, AND THE GATES OF HADES WILL NOT OVERCOME IT (FROM THE N.I.V). Brothers Peter’s confession that Jesus was the Christ the Son of the Living God is what Chris

  32. Peters confession that Jesus was, “The Christ The Son of The Living God” is what Christ builds his church on and not Priesthood! We confess Jesus that He alone is the Christ who died to save humanity from the judgement of sin. Romans 1:16 “The Gospel is the Power of God for the salvation of Everyone who believes. We are all sinners whether Priest or not. As long as one is called human they are not able to please God apart from Christ. Our focus and attention should be what church is, it Christ body if Christ body then also humble and obedient to him alone. The Gospel and not marriage should be the basis. Christ is th center of any church. Pleas check if that’s what the Priests r teaching tht

  33. #41, just for more clarification- There had been a number of coucils before, but the 1st vatican council was in 1870,(called so by the name of the city where it was held); it was mainly dogmatic, while the 2nd Vat. council was more pastoral. Far from designing rules for other churches it actually looked at ways of relating well with them. The catholic church has an ecumenical relation with itself, ie as a conglomerate of particular/local churches. So here ecumenical council does not necessarily refer to relations with other churches but intra.
    search for “Gaudium et spes” and “Lumen Gentium” for more details about what came out of it.

  34. Ekklesia or Qahal not church. #44m the word church is a replacement disguised as a translation. Peters real name means Rock in hebrew which is Kepha. Peter was slandered by the romans as the founder of the church when after they had murdered him. Peter or Kepha was a practising jew who accepted salvation from the son of man , he was appointed Pope after he had died. the first pope was not peter it was Clement , he wrote two books that he wanted to be added to the bible but were rejected. After I read the real roman history not the fabricated one which seems to be popular among catholics

  35. #46

    Ecumenical decisions are not Intra catholic they bind all churches. Fotr example the creation of the festival of Easter to replace Passover was passed at Nicea and binds all churches. Another ecumenical law that binds all churches is the calendar and the removal of over 24 original biblical books like Enoch and teh 12 patriachs. The catholic church still has a lot of influence on 99% of the churches including protestant ones. The only church that seems normal is the SDA but even they still hold on to pagan doctrines of the romans

  36. #48 thanks.But we need not to deal with church history in isolated points.We need to appreciate the one time state -church union, which was not all that good at that time and before all these churches were not there. Easter like sunday as day of the Lord, is linked to the Passion, Death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.Christ rose on the first day of the week and the early christians started meeting on the first day of the week after they moved away from the synagogues.This first day of the week starts of saturday evening.So however much we try we cant take away tradition as a factor.Its questionable if the SDA are christian on this point or a neo- jewish sect.

  37. Of issue of the Bible books apart from the notion of Divine Inspiration in their authorship, there is the historical and traditional part; for as we know first was the people of Isreal and their experiences,and out of this came the the Old T, while the earthly life of Christ and the early church preceded the N.T. In other words the N.T was born out of the church, and there were process to select which books to be in the Bible at different points for each testament. So while the history of the cath church may not be that perfect it is ultimately the cradle of these experiences and faith in the making.It is not deniable that local customs found their way into worship, at least the good ones.

  38. My Bishop you are right we are too much into sex and abusing girls and women.The only problem is how to come out of this church when all my relatives look up to me.We want to take care of our children too like other human beings.I can only join when my future is certain financially.thank you sir.
    We are behind you.

  39. I read many of these comments about Milingo,it seems many have non idea to what caused this man to do all this.And many seem to miss apoint what it means to a christian and to be a faithful christian.Milingo if you read between the line the man made a mistake and i dont think that he is honest with himself.If he was honest he could have comeout from the church which you are criticising leave the catholic church alone.
    Remember that we are all sinners each one us will answer if his sins.If we are christian let us not give the devil the opportunity who know may be the devil is using Milingo to confuse you all.Let us continue praying for Milingo

  40. I read many of these comments about Milingo,it seems many have non idea to what caused this man to do all this.And many seem to miss apoint what it means to a christian and to be a faithful christian.Milingo if you read between the line the man made a mistake and i dont think that he is honest with himself.If he was honest he could have comeout from the church which you are criticising leave the catholic church alone.
    Remember that we are all sinners each one us will answer if his sins.If we are christian let us not give the devil the opportunity who knows may be the devil is using Milingo to confuse you all.Let us continue praying for Milingo

  41. iwe #51, are u Fr.mwansa in lusaka, you are so sick if u are the one i know. what were u thinking when joining.everyone who knows you here in Nambia is laughing ta you.

  42. Milingo was booed in Italy that he did not know church history. Infact one fellow wondered who taught the man ‘Canon law’ and who qualified him to priesthood because he behaves very ignorant. Celibacy is a choice and infact is practised even outside religiuos life. Mr. Milingo should start his own church and am sure he would have a good following. BUT I know he knows what the true church is.

    Dont be a stupid fly who follows a corpse to the grave and stay blessed.

  43. honeymoon yakubukote he should set up that vatican we shall continue respecting and supporting truthful people .He served God for such a long time hence he deserves the respect atleast he’s better than those peodophillic priests or would be perpetrators. coming out in the open to say you cant manage should be honourable tusheni shikulu(even though he appears stubborn) atleast tamwabukile abana.

  44. Africa the playground of foreign religions and ideologies. Those who condemn Milingo must sit down and think. Why is the part of Africa that first received the Arabs now Moslem? And the part that received the Europeans first now Christian? This just means we modern day blind followers have no say or choice in the matter of which religion we belong to. It was imposed on us and we think whatever is in this religion is gospel truth. If Milingo had been born in Northern Sudan he would have been a moslem and probably be fighting Islamic beliefs for clashing with African beliefs. Unless we stand up we will continue being the playground of foreigners.

  45. Iwe # 51. Be careful the way you express your ignorance about the Catholic Church and celibacy or Milingo and Married Priesthood. This vision did not come from the inspiration of the Holy spirit neither was it concieved in the normal mind of Archbishop Milingo. Infact I advise you to be in a position to pity and pray for this man of God the way all of us who love him do. He is a victim of circumstance.
    There is a BEAST hiding behind the whole phenomena. Soon there will be a BIG BANG and the whole truth is coming out. That is when all of you blind supporters will see red. How many times has Milingo comfessed that he never inteded to marry and he has never dreamed of marriege? Careful!!

  46. Read his book:’The fish drawn from the mud’. Then you will know who the real Milingo is. He is indeed a victim of circumstance.

  47. New Passports next month
    The Issuance of new passports is expected to start next month.

    Home Affairs Permanent Secretary, Susan Sikaneta said the government has already put into place necessary logistics such as equipment for the entire process which kick start’s in July.

    She told ZNBC news that training and recruitment of staff who will mann the new office is expected to start this month end.

    The Home Affairs Permanent Secretary noted that Zambia decided to join the international community by bringing in a new passport with sophisticated features that cannot be forged.

  48. Milingo’s enjoying the fruit! women are all the sources of evil. now that the man has tested the fruit, he cant give up! shame on easterners!!!

  49. at least ba milingo has come out in the open and am sure he has bn ku chilapilo who a we to judge him . take the log in your eye before u take a speck in your frieds eye. i know of one priest who fathered 2 children near ntwenos in mpika

  50. Just marry and stop the rot if you can’t practice celibacy.
    Milingo is right.
    Read about priests or fathers in the US and other places.
    Paul said “It is a gift” If you do not have it you will never have it.
    Glory be to Jehova !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  51. the devil is also getting stronger and stronger as religion grows…if milingo was in russia he would have married a blonde!!!! Milingo visit St Peterburg…you’ll see the Power of a woman….

  52. all has been said, mudala milingo isnt a christian nor a moonie, so what is he, where does he belong? what is he trying to teach the world that he has to make so much noise? if he wants to be a moonie, let him be if its christianity then let him be but he cant be both, the Lord says “you are neither warm no cold, I will spit you out of my mouht.” to marry doesnt not guarantee him the right to bring confusion, how many priests married and continued leading normal lives, i guess many. so bragging about the beauty he has found in marriage doesnt give him the respect he deserves. im not catholic but i feel strongly, he should leave the catholic alone, he doesnt believe in it

  53. Let us be frank, if Milingo is pretty sure that what he is doing is an inspiration from the Holy Spirit, why did he run away from the Catholic Church to go and be married by the Moonies, he was staying in Rome, so clocse to the Pope. He also abused both Church law and his own tradition where marriege is concerned. ‘We Ngonis’ do not marry sudenly, moreover, mass weedings do not exist in our tradition. What a marriege? Let the Church alone you blind suppoters!

  54. the catholic church does not force any1 to become a priest.there4 my dear people,let us know where we are standing and wht we belive in.Do not be cheated otherwise you wl end up joinig satanism in the name of Milingo as the man of God.Let us remember him in our daily prayers that throu the mercy of God,he may stop creating confusion and raising dust in the world and that we all belive in the only truth and that truth is Jesus the son of man who came that we may have life not Milingo.AMEN

  55. iwe 51 kabiye mukupa be4 its too lateee!pack your katundu and go home if you think priesthood is playground gooooo home!goooooooo.Dont fear what your relatives wl say.Dont wait untl 79yrs old gooo u are free to gooo.By the way it is your home why should u fear what people wl say.If you dont want to go home,have courage and know where you are standing not ukwalola umwela..Theres no shotcut to heaven my dear brother.Carry your cros & belive in the truth.Jesus is always there waiting 4 u and me.

  56. Archbishop Milingo is not the only one within the Roman Catholic Church to support a married priesthood. But is the only one with courage to carry out his actions. Also i a recently published book the former retired Roman Cathlic Cardinal of Milan (the worlds biggest catholic archdiocese) has supported not only yhr ordination of married priests but also the ordinatin of women !!!

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