The Federal Democratic Party (FEDEPA) has joined calls by the MMD to forego the presidential by-election scheduled for November this year, arguing that the exercise would be unreasonable and a waste of national resources.
In a statement released to ZANIS in Livingstone today, FEDEPA President, Reverend Alfred Sayila said, spending K400 billion on a presidential by-election for an interim period before the general elections in 2011 would be wasteful spending at the expense of national development.
He said no political party including the MMD was psychologically ready to contest the Presidential by-election, as President Levy Mwanawasa’s death was untimely, in addition to weak clauses existing in the current the constitution.
Reverend Sayila warned that the country risked electing an opportunist with dictatorial tendencies as President, if an abrupt Presidential by-election was held.
“To allow an abrupt Presidential by-election can easily jeopardize peace in this country and usher in an opportunist with undesirable elements and tendencies of dictatorship ,” he said.
He said, it would be in the interest of all Zambians to let the MMD choose a credible leader who should be allowed to complete the late President Levy Mwanawasa’s second term of office.
Reverend Sayila also proposed that the position of Vice President and that of Finance Minister be given to opposition political parties like the United Party for National Development (UPND) and Patriotic Front (PF).
“This can be the best way of honouring the late President Mwanawasa, who at one time appointed a Vice President and Ministers from the opposition,” He said.
Reverend Sayila implored the MMD, opposition political parties and all their members to put the interest of the country above their personal ambitions to become presidents and instead learn to serve the country in other available positions.
who?
Waste of space.
Thats a good suggestion and everyone who has the country at heart should support this. This should also teach us a lesson so that we include this idea in the constitution, having such a costly election may not be a good idea.
RB saleout
FEDEPA,WHAT!WHO ARE THESE FELLAS.WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON DOWN THERE IN ZAMBIA?
FEDEPA sounds like an association for fishermen in Mozambique.
who are you poor chap?silly and ignorance…hope you have no intetions of ruling Zed someday co we are watching you….this statement will backfire someday!
What federal is this party?
People should not just wake up and say we wont have elections. Thats why we have a constitution. Before long someone will say we dont need general elections altogether!Lets live by the rule of law people!
This man is mad. No further comments your honour.
MAY I SAY THAT ELECTIONS ARE VERY COSTLY, SO IS FREEDOM.IF GOD GIVES US A DICTATOR THEN THAT IS WHAT WILL NEED AT THIS TIME, MY GOD DIRECT US AS WE GO FORWARD.
#9 You are a fantastic virus!!
Ka party aka nika mu fedral
When was this FEDEPA formed? How many Zambians are aware of its existence? Utter nonsense!
Excuse me!what did you say your name was again?tata stop talking while namufulama.
Ba Reverend impanga shenu shaliluba.Using your reasoning you should also know that not following the Constitution can easily jeopardize peace in this country and usher in an opportunist with undesirable elements and tendencies of dictatorship as well . Ba Reverend your rationale is like telling your Church not to follow the Commandments.
Here is a long analysis that has been drawn up by political analysts
A few African countries can be cited where leaders have died, in different circumstances, whilst holding office of Head of state. The death has been different. Some were deposed and killed; while others just succumbed to illness.
Here are the few:
deregister this nosense thing(FEDEPE)
cont..17
Egypt
Egypt’s 3rd President Anwar Al Sadat, 63, was killed at a military parade on 6th October, 1981. Sadat was a senior member of officers that overthrew the Muhamad Ali dynasty and a close friend of Gamal Abdel Nasser who he succeeded as President in 1970. He was succeeded by Abdelaziz .M. H. Hosni Mubarak.
it comprehasive so if you want a copy sent your eamiland i will forward it.
Those wanting not to have the by-elections do not know what they are talking about.This not a village or ka small grouping .This is soverign state.In case they don’t understand ,in a democractic nations,people elect their leaders .Why are people so interested in SELECTIONS but not ELECTIONS?I have a right to choose the leader i want and nothing more.If they are pro MMD or whatever,they might be called,elections must be held thats why in the consitution there is the provision for bye-elections.Lets not be fulled by people who have interests in government.3 years is not a Joke.So,please lets be serious,this is not a Monarchy.Twapapata!!
cont…19
Angola
Angola’s first independent leader, Antonio Agostinho Neto, 57 (The Poet) died on 10th September 1979, in Moscow Russia where he had travelled to receive cancer treatment. He was succeeded by his planning minister, Jose Eduardo dos Santos .
YOU DON T SUIT TO BE A PRESINDENT MR WHATEVER.ZAMBIA IS NOT READY TO BE RULED BY YESS BWANA RB, HE SHOULD GO TO THE FARM AND FARM OR RITIRE FROM ACTIVE POLITICS OR GO BACK TO UNIP.
its forgo not forego
SAYILA U BETTER KEEP QUIET IF U DON’T UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION!
INFACT CAN U PREACH THE GOSPEL IF U CAN INSTEAD OF TALKING NONSENSE.
cont…21
Togo
Togo’s President of 38 years, Gnassngbe Eyadema, 69 died on 5th February 2005 when he was being evacuated for treatment. Although the Togolese constitution prescribes for the Speaker to take over as President until elections are held in 60 days, lawmakers amended the constitution and made Faure Gnassingbe (the son to the late) President as Speaker and allowed him to serve the rest of his father’s term. After international outcry, Gnassingbe was forced to hold elections in April 2005, where he was declared winner.
AND WHAT THE HELL IS FEDEPE?
imwe bantu!!! nga kapubanshi aka??? FEDEPA???? Rev. Sayila???
WHO the hell is this chap?? another party has mushroomed and now the chap is busy making funny statements just to get 5 minutes of fame??? this is a serious waste of time and space LT….elo i totally concur with Virus..we have a constitution in place so lets stop this nonsense of forgoing the elections..
Maybe this FEDEPA fella,calling himself a reverand Silly thinks these are ERECTIONS. No! we are talking about Presidential ELECTIONS where each Zambian will be given a birthright opportunity to choose a candidate of their choice as directed by their informed choices and not your suggestions ka reverand iwe! Why are you exposing your ignorance? Its constitutional.This is Zambia and not EGYPT.We are not ARABS please. Just go and enjoy your brown envelope quietly and stop that mosquito behavoiur ok ! If i catch you !!!!!
Congo
Patrice Emery Lumumba, 35, independence hero and newly elected leader of Democratic Republic of Congo was deposed and killed by Katangan soldiers commanded by Belgium on 17th January 1961. Others implicated in his death were the USA , Britain and the United Nations as now opened archival material shows. He was replaced by Joseph Desiree Mobutu Seseko.
Laurent Desiree Kabila cranked up a military campaign in 1997 and overthrew Mobutu. Mobutu died in exile, in Morocco .
On January 16th 2001, Kabila was killed by his own staff Rashidi Kasereka, who was also immediately gunned down.
Kabila’s son, Joseph Kabila took over.
Mozambique
Samara Moises Machel , Mozambique ’s liberation hero, died on October 19, 1986, in Lebombo Mountains in South Africa when his plane crashed while coming from Lusaka . His presidential Russian plane, a Tupolev TU-134, was carrying 34 passengers but only 10 survived. Machel and others including government ministers perished.
His foreign affairs minister and fellow freedom fighter, Joaquim Chisano succeeded him.
The widow, Graca Machel has since re-married to world statesman and South African ex- president, Nelson Mandela. When she married Mandela in 1998, she became the first woman to marry two Presidents whilst they held office.
Just like the third term bid! Some of these reverends bring God’s name to shame.
Listening to Qfm , Ngandu – 11 votes and RB – 47. RB sasking loosing candidates to join in campaign for him
THE USA
The USA has lost some of its Presidents in office in, Warren G. Harding. William Harrison, John F. Kennedy, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
Like Zambia , the USA has a spelt-out constitutional process that guides the nation in the event of an abrupt vacancy in the Office of president.
RB has won the nominations!
What nonsence is this FEDEDE or whatever they call themselves talking about? Could someone expalin to me?
Sondashi 0
Mumba 0
Kavi 0
Shikap 1
Kopulande 1
magande 11
RB
You can do the Maths on What RB got
Shikapwasha and Kopulande voted for themselves. At leat Kavindele and the others who got zeros realized and didn’t want to sink so. Zero is better than one in this case
pliz spare us from ignorance, no single person or party in this country has the right to change the constitution unconstitutionally so let this nonsense stop right away…………..pliz!!!
Can whoever is responsible de-register FADEPA what a shame these are small parties with memebership of his family two wives and 17 children.They dont even have a constitution.Shame upon you.Nonsense!Constitution must be followed and the candidate must be chosen by the people.LAZ help please. Ninamanshi?
Please debate this matter with a sober mind. Some pipo are too emotional! Even if you have a point, your attitude dilutes it all. We must ask ourselves, if we have this by-election, what chance is there that we shall get a leader better than some compromise for now? We will have just wasted over K400 BILLION!!!! for nothing. The year 2011 is coming soon, can’t we wait for a proper election then?For now we could find some compromise leader, say the VP, but only on condition that he must conduct government business based on some ideals agreed by all. This country has not seen the rule-of-law, honesty, transparency, etc. These are some of the virtues the new leader would have to observe.
Hehehehehehehe – elo lwanya lelo!! Uko!! Banda apita…
Please refer to the constitution, unless there is a way to change it. This is not a village
Mewbantu, hasnt the British govt offered to finance the elections?
reverend who?? from f what?? suguesting..what??? this is utter rubish, we have a constitution, who are these clowns to dictate to us not to follow the constitution.. everyone who is suggesting that we dont follow the constitution are not zambians..period. #3 pvcc do you know what the constitution represents? do you know the highest law in the counrty, are you an advocate of anarchy?
#41 – Your comment makes sense but to what end? Its not like this 400 Billion will go to UTH or UNZA – it will go straight into the constitutional office holders’ pockets. These MMD vultures are out to get rich – at whatever cost!! I shudder that RB is sleeping in the same bed with the same men that betrayed LPM and Mwanawasa before him. It’s a catch 22 – if we opt to violet the constitution, then it means we can manipulate it whenever the occassion fits – precedence brethren is a powerful weapon.
LPM and FTJ I mean…
The Post must now shut up! We know the camp they belong to. There is no place for an annointed leader, sorry. The Post want to pose as if they mean well but they have completely lost that integrity which they once commanded. It is just a matter of time and their true colors will show. No wonder, they have run out of words and have resorted to insulting those who have seen through their sinister agenda. What naivety and shameless primitity!! VIVA RB!!!
If RB got 47 isnt that more than the number of NEC members considering that president and vice president where not there on the list Sondashi 0
Mumba 0
Kavi 0
Shikap 1
Kopulande 1
magande 11
RB
lwanya RB has been elected ,MMD is finished.
We have a constitution. Can we please follow it.
Forgo elections because its a waste of resources, what? Let Govt take from where ever they can to let the voices of the people be heard.
The British Govt has pledged support, UNDP has pledged $11.5m towards the exercise. Ask the Minister of Finance – last year we had money that was not utilized sitting in commercial banks, we have windfall tak from April this year and Criticals Mwansa has consistently collected beyond budget this year. So what money do they need that they don’t have. Chibiliti said there is money, so why the short cuts. Do these people want a riot.
RB will use the State Machinery to manipulate results, I wish SATA and HH could come together coz thats the only way to defeat MMD!
#35 i agree with u they are probably hallucinating
No. 41 please realise that when you open the gates of compromise, there is no telling how far you will go.The president is such a key leader that he has to be elected.We are in a fragile time we cant start changing the law now it can bring problems. Perharps when the new president is elected then we can amend the consititution after having gone through this expecrience to see the pros and cons of a veep takin over.i still respect your opinion however.
This organisation should a branch of the MMD or is full of poeple that are ignorant. The suggestion is not only wild but filled with contempt of the rules and regulations that run the affairs of this country. The constitution is the number one rule book in this land . It sets out what should be done. They say democracy is not but expensive. Justitce should not only prevail when it suits us. Bye elction are a requiremnt by law and that is what is going to be followed. Money or No money. The Money meant for the NCC can be diverted to this election .
Virus!! Hear!! Hear!!! Mwana am feeling you… precedence is a powerful tool!
FEDEPA sounds like some rebel group in Angola. they are baseless in their argument. they need to understand the principles surrounding a democratic society. they also need to acquaint themselves with the provisions in the constitution as regards the state of affairs in zed.
CKK – As you’ve rightly pointed out, we can not as a people be so careless as to disregard the laws of the land on someone’s whim -how in the world can anyone even begin to entertain such thoughts? It begs the question, if we start now, when do we stop? How far will we go with this constitutional manipulation? We need to put our feet down! Zambia is not for sale… its ours and we WANT to VOTE!!
The issue here is RB does not have the mandate of Zambians to be in statehouse.PERIOD. Any other issue is secondary. The ZMK240billion (not ZMK400billion) is a price for democracy. Its expensive to hold elections thats why we insist on having an elected VP.
Viva By-Elections, Viva opposition
LT WHY NOT SHOWING MY POSTS? I THOT U GUYZ WERE OFFLINE TO UPDATE THE SITE??? PLIZ STOP THE NOSENSE.
Is this a Zambian political party? How old? 2 weeks?
Nga ishi imbushi nasho shafuma kwisa kanshi?
we just have to vote imwe! ala
manipulation of the consitution at every whim indeed! This is what you get when you have recycled politicians such as kaka, vernon, mbita etc. Having managed to get RB nominated, now they want to disregard the constitution. This was all planned. In fact Teta in the interview which dipak responded to had brought it up.My heart bleeds for our mother land. How can it be that we have never been at war but our economy is in the same league as those that have been? It is because we have had the same chaps that only serve their interests…mark my words..here comes the assentment of the salaries bill by RB
I am hearing of FEDEPA for the first time since the creation of the world, my fault. We seem not to have money for UNZA, by-elections; but there seems to be money for salary increments, CRC (worthwhile excercise, but could have been cheaper than it is)…etc. We are putting our priorities upside down. By-elections are crucial at this time…WE MUST HAVE THEM. We do shabby, cheap politics now, it will prove to be more expensive than the 240 billion, or is it 400 billion…we are even getting confused now. Wake-up mother Zambia. Yes #59….VIVA BY-ELECTIONS.
Pumpy, Mampy or Puppy whoever u are #52. u gat a good point pal. kip it up
it’s better to have it the Zim way kenya way than have mmd in power
So the Salary Increament Bill was sign thats why RB HAS BEEN ADOPTED PLS PF THE SALARIES SHOULD BE REVERSED
The democracy and future of Zambia lies in Zambians and all political parties respecting their constitutions and democratic norms.
The nomination of Banda by itself is a good process unlike the shouting done by TETA against other candidates. The NEC pick was created by Chiluba and now followed by this adoption. With a win, you carry more credibility and confidence instead of relying of power blockers.
Let there be Presidential Elections now to complete the process of filling a constitutional office… Shortcuts will damage our reputation as a nation and create a bad presidency.
So even Magande is an outsider in MMD. He was the late Mazokas financial advisor which i think is that party called UPND
The madiness of ignoring the constitution must never be embraced in our beloved and peaceful country of Zambia. Lets go by the rule of law and respect it at all cost. Congratulations Ba RB for winning. We look forward for your maturity leadership even after the By-elections.
RB cannot be sworn in to defend a constitution whose authority comes from the people when he himself does not have the authority of the people. Until we have elected him, can he then be sworn in to defend the constitution written by the people. The constitution starts by saying: “WE THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA”. Now RB has not yet been chosen according to “WE THE PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA”.
Viva By-Elections Abash The Post and Zambian Airways
Taba kumanina aba Rev. what’s his problem??? Doesn’t he know that democracry is expensive??? You shld just shut your mandibles Rev..if you’ve nothing to utter.
Iwe #65 walanda bwino but uletina Lesa. You cant be Jesus change your blog name.
Costly by election? aya malibu yakuyilombela this was an avoidable mistake
Ba FED something who do you propose my hold the mantle until 2011? We have a constitution in place and we must follow this to the letter.
We all have wishes but this should not become an overiding factor to have ones wish made a reality. LPM had a wish and so do the so called MMD founding members neither of these wishes should bw forced on the masses.
Its time we took a leaf as Zambians from other nations: when Tony Blair was re-elected for the 3rd term he made it an open secret that he wanted Gordon Brown to succeed him and so did the great Nelson Mandela – he nurtured Thabo Mbeki openly. Neither of these whispered their choices in their wives ears on their choices.
People have axes to grind that is why they are throwing their weights behind certain people – its ironic that all the loudest are deputy ministers.
Iam very sad that politics of MMD of old people coming back to political front and lead us without our say and use tax payers money to rig elections or to say use constitution office to be president defeats the tenets of democracy.God help this nation.
to hell with you fedepa zambia is a contitutional democracy and we are being guided by the constitution which has in this case requested us to have an election to replace the president. then what other way do you guys think we will have a replacement for LMP? other than through a contitutional process. u cant and dont even try to talk about amending the constitution we have suffered alot. its money coming from your pocket its from the zambians so that they can have a democratically elected president. we dont want pretence in any way lets fufil the rquirements of the constitution. otherwise the law should be more supreme than mens opinions. get lost with you cheap propaganda to hell wooooo
#65 do not call yourself Jesus , call Jesus in your life now before it is too late for you . You need to be born again Rom 10 vs 8-12
Nonsense!
So finally RB has been picked as MMD Presidential candidate. What a shame indeed. It was obvious though that they gona pick him because they want to utilise the state funds in campaigning. I hope any opposition party wins Sata or HH so that MMD account for the money spent on Levy’s funeral and what they are prepared to plunder from now to Nov. Please Sata and HH just field one candidate Sata in short and HH VP to see through the remaining 3yrs for accountability purposes. One Zambia. One Nation.
Stop buying the post or cancel your online subscriptions.
M’membe, Nchito and Amos are exposed and are they are part of the group that plundeded of our natural resources.
Who the f^k is Reverand Sayila? Sick and tired of these stupid reverands masquerading as holy men and all the while eyeing earthly power and wealth. Go to hell imbeciles and stop calling yourselves reverand Danny Pule or pastor Nevus Mumba or Bishop Milingo.
#83, WHAT YOU HAVE SAID IS ALL TRUE,……………
BUT PLEASE FORGIVE AND FORGET.
WE ARE VERY SORRY
GUYS UTU TU MALA REVERAND TWAKUPANGAFYE BY POLITICAL ENGINEERS LIKE KATELE KALUMBA TO SUPPORT MMD CAUSE. BE WARE OF OTHER SO CALLED REVERANDS COMIMG UP WITH MMD SUPPORT TO CREATE AND IMPRESSION THAT THEY HAVE REAL SUPPORT FROM THE PEOPLE. FORGET ABOUT AKA KA REVERAND HE DOES NOT EXIST
#9 you are on point. The constitution is what Levy would want us to follow. Afterall he was State Counsel and a man of law wasn’t he?
People should be serious in life. Plizz think before you talk.
Elo lwanya ba RB to become presdo
It is un called for to try to use under mine methods to evade the supreme law of the land. Justice minister already informed the nation tha it is within 90 days. Katele does not know what he is saying. Even these chaps from FEDEPA know little of the law. I agree with Sata that we have to know when the election date is? Nov 19 will be at the start of the rainy season we demand the election be held sooner.
Why do people strongly criticize Mr. Banda? The man is educated like the late President, a seasoned diplomat as well as a businessman. Let him as the late President’s # 2 continue his policies. Come 2011, everybody else can contest. For the sake of peace!
Imwe ba pastor do you know what you are talking about, all deaths are untimely. levy is gone and life continues. Please try to read the zambian constitution.
YOU PEOPLE WHAT DO MEAN BY UNTIMELY DEATH WHILE THE PRESIDENT KNEW
THAT ONE DAY HE WILL DIE. HE EVEN WROTE A WILL WAY BACK IN 2005.ONLY
THOSE CROOKS ARE AFRAID TO DIE.I SALUTE YOU LEVY AND MAY YOUR SOUL
REST IN PEACE BECAUSE YOU SAW IT COMING.
#91
the law of zambia or the constitution of the nation of Zambia says elections should be held regards of whatever people think or say.
RB is not an elected chap so he cant be president because people like you and the reverand are ignorant of the law of this country.
if we set a precidence of ignoring the law then there is no rule of law in country of which is more costly.
We will not be ordaining a Church Pastor but electing a Republican President, please respect the constitution like you follow the Ten Commandments “ba Reverend”.
LT get serious, don’t give any Jim & Jack space on your forum! FEDEPA, it’s the first time I’m hearing of these chaps! LPM was a man of the law, Secretary to Treasury earlier told us there was enough cash for the by-election, so what’s the deal? Let’s abide by constitution then ensure that the NCC puts a clause in new constitution to allow for running mate in future presidential elections to prevent this scenario ever again!!!
FEDEPA you don’t know that democracy is expensive.It’s a machine so that is why we have to hold elections and the constitution says so.Just stay put if you have nothing to say or you want some money.Just state what you want pliz!!!!give zambia a break…we need peace who do you think will accept.
silly Sayila! go back to the archives where you belong
This party FEDEPA is not even known,then there talking about appointments which it seems they dont understnd.Right know ministry of finance and national planning is ok and doesnt need to change.This guy just comes up with dreams and thinks things work like that.
Probably these are the parties Katele was refering to as oppostion.You can call them a party where there possibly 6 people and all the 6 are members of his family.If katele wanted to talk to oppostion he should have talked to PF,UPND AND FDD thats oppostion.And these parties so far have no idea what Katele talked about the other day.
you are a lost shepherd. no woner you come from a party iya mu federal we shilu we
looks like brown envelopes have already started switching hands … reminds me of the futile MMD third term attempt not so long ago.
FED..what? Who are they to give such improper direction for the nation. I totally agree to one who say ‘elections are costly so is freedom’ Amen to that brother.
Fed…what you talking about?is’t because you gat no vision for the country and then you think you can just forego election.It doesn’t work like that you have follow the proper channel.