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Zambia Police to circumcise all male recruits

Time Posted: June 18, 2009 6:28 am

The Zambia Police Service says plans are underway to introduce a mandatory circumcision policy for all male recruits.

Kamfinsa Police training school commanding Officer, Malcom Mulenga, says male circumcision will help prevent HIV and AIDS cases in the Police service.

Mr. Mulenga, says the Zambia Police Service has continued to lose qualified manpower as a result HIV/AIDS.

He was speaking when the American government handed over a Voluntary Counselling and Testing centre to the Zambia Police Service.

At the same function, Home Affairs deputy Minister, Misheck Bonshe, welcomed plans by the Zambia Police Service to circumcise male recruits.

And the United States Charge d’ Affairs for Zambia, Michael Koplovsky, said his government has set aside K1.5 billion for the construction of health centres for police officers.

[ZNBC]

67 Comments

  1. vote
    flag Moderator says: Moderator
    June 18, 2009 at 6:35 am |

    This is what I would call human right’s violation! WTF? what century are we living in? Yaba…

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  2. vote
    flag Tente says: Tente
    June 18, 2009 at 6:36 am |

    Hey, give them the right to choose. It does not completely solve the problem without change of behaviour !

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  3. vote
    flag Chintelelwe Chakubaleta says: Chintelelwe Chakubaleta
    June 18, 2009 at 6:51 am |

    Being circumsized doesn’t make one immune to HIV/AIDS!! What a silly measure. Why not tell them instead ukuleka ukudoda-doda!

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  4. vote
    flag Zulu 83 says: Zulu 83
    June 18, 2009 at 7:03 am |

    I’ll take the side of Mr Mulenga. to be a great leader you’ll need to make some unpopular decisions. the fight against Aids is a “must-win” fight because if we lose, we pay with our lives

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  5. vote
    flag Truth chacine Zoona says: Truth chacine Zoona
    June 18, 2009 at 7:50 am |

    What sort of thinking is this? Both the commanding officer and the deputy minister should lead by example by being circumsized first. Why do they want to talk the talk and not walk it. This purely blackmailing of the desperate young men trying to get a job. I wonder what the human rights commission has to say about that

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  6. vote
    flag zedson says: zedson
    June 18, 2009 at 7:55 am |

    Give them an option.

    What sort of thinking is that ba mpombozi?

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  7. vote
    flag YUDAH CHIBANDA says: YUDAH CHIBANDA
    June 18, 2009 at 8:06 am |

    Ubupuba in my country. Madness and thoughtlesness is what is happening in our minds. Where ve we gone wrong as a nation. Honestly, does it mean that no one is thinking straioght in Zambia? How on earth do you think like that?

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  8. vote
    flag mule says: mule
    June 18, 2009 at 8:12 am |

    TOTAL madness. What law will be used to compel or subject a recruit to such treatment.
    Zambia has amashilu BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Teach people morals and responsible behaviour if HIV/AIDS is to be eliminated. Circumcision simply implies, go ahead and ………..

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  9. vote
    flag The Government says: The Government
    June 18, 2009 at 8:33 am |

    This is utter rubish. So if you refuse to be circumsized you can’t be a cop. What happened to human rights? This just shows waht kind of leaders we have in Zambia. Next will be all grade one male pupils to be circumsized.

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  10. vote
    flag KA'DOYO... says: KA'DOYO...
    June 18, 2009 at 8:37 am |

    Everyone should have a choice regarding this issue. This is the same with the Swaziland minister who said every body should be tested for HIV and if positive one should be tattooed on the buttock. Utter nonsense!

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  11. vote
    flag Worried Zambian says: Worried Zambian
    June 18, 2009 at 8:49 am |

    Send the foreskin to china, they will make soap or something and export it back to us, hahaha. Forced circumcision, were are we heading?

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  12. vote
    flag black pawn says: black pawn
    June 18, 2009 at 8:53 am |

    how bout the ladies? what measures are they gona put in place to avoid HIV/AIDS? circumsise them too? how?

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  13. vote
    flag NaChale says: NaChale
    June 18, 2009 at 8:57 am |

    Extend it to female recruits too…slice everything off while you are at it.

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  14. vote
    flag Chofwe says: Chofwe
    June 18, 2009 at 9:04 am |

    This is madness!!! Change or perish Zambia!!!

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  15. vote
    flag Hola! says: Hola!
    June 18, 2009 at 9:09 am |

    Male circumcision is very beneficial to both males and their partners.It is not just about preventing AIDS transmsmission but it lowers the chances of their partners to develop cancer of the cervix .There is a chemical substance that lurks under the foreskin of uncircumcised males called smegma which is carcinogenic.Zambian women are amongst the highest with cancer of the cervix.But then again it should be a matter of choice.Their parents should have done it whilst they were babies.And female circumcision is MUTILATION and does not benefit anyone at all.It is BARBARIC and inhuman.Take away the female desire so you can commit rape on her?Might as well buy an inflatable doll!

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  16. vote
    flag Hola! says: Hola!
    June 18, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    Male circumcision is beneficial for both.It also helps in prevention of cancer of the cervix

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  17. vote
    flag Kambongolo says: Kambongolo
    June 18, 2009 at 9:16 am |

    What Rubbish……only if circumcision is a cure of AIDS but as it stands its not. So let each person chose. To help you on this issue, just say those who like dipping dweno in any hole should chose circumcision.

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  18. vote
    flag Annan says: Annan
    June 18, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    Forcing them is not a good idea,give them a choice

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  19. vote
    flag Ba Honey says: Ba Honey
    June 18, 2009 at 9:20 am |

    Have any studies been done to prove that this actually works, there needs to some experiments carried out before they impose this on pipo

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  20. vote
    flag Buju says: Buju
    June 18, 2009 at 9:21 am |

    I have every reason to believe this man smokes something stronger than ordinary fwaka. Ba DEC should move in and search this training school and i hope it does’nt serve as a brothel.

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  21. vote
    flag Muntuza says: Muntuza
    June 18, 2009 at 9:34 am |

    Slice Slumdog Shalupungu’s ego whilst you are it! Nah, am joking kofye…

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  22. vote
    flag MOTOMOTO says: MOTOMOTO
    June 18, 2009 at 9:37 am |

    That is good news for mobile police officers but be mindful that circumcision does protect men from contracting HIV/AIDS 100%. The officers may even be more at risk as they will take it for granted that its a shield, it just reduces the chances. Why only end at recruits do for every one serving. It will make sense or it will be just mere talk as usual. This thing does not onlt target recruits but every file and rank.

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  23. vote
    flag Mwisho says: Mwisho
    June 18, 2009 at 9:38 am |

    Ba Kaluba go for it… Its your time to smile kumukanda.

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  24. vote
    flag Matworld says: Matworld
    June 18, 2009 at 9:39 am |

    Zo-ona mu Zed amashilu nayafula kwena,I really don’t understand why pipo still believe that circumsion reduce Hiv/Aids why not encourage pipo to abstain and be faithful to their loved ones.In most cases those who get infected are those who are too jumpy so to me its a punishiment from God so circumsion no condomising a jumpy person is ever prone to HIV/AIDS.Too bad innocent lives get infected also coz of the love for their spouses.(Especially ladies)

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  25. vote
    flag NaChale says: NaChale
    June 18, 2009 at 9:45 am |

    I hear that female circumcision curbs promiscuity, it should also be considered.

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  26. vote
    flag Slumdog Shalapungu says: Slumdog Shalapungu
    June 18, 2009 at 9:49 am |

    It’s not the lack of circumcision thats causing the spread of HIV it’s the attitudes. Am wondering how awkward it will be to have to show your issues just to show that you are circumsized to join the force

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  27. vote
    flag Gavin Smith says: Gavin Smith
    June 18, 2009 at 10:00 am |

    Simply issue condoms and safe sex eductaion along with it – then you can use the police to continue the promotion of safe sex education

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  28. vote
    flag Research Physicist Maestro Hhehhehhehhe aka Mugungulu H. Mwaanga says: Research Physicist Maestro Hhehhehhehhe aka Mugungulu H. Mwaanga
    June 18, 2009 at 10:01 am |

    Mandatory as in your “The Zambia Police Service says plans are underway to introduce a mandatory circumcision policy for all male recruits” is useless, but try encouraging those who want to do it.

    Just because Botswana has announced plans of circumcising its Citizens does not mean that you have to copy and paste just like that too. Learn to do your own things with respect for humanity and each one’s rights.
    ___
    Prevention is better than cure.

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  29. vote
    flag Research Physicist Maestro Hhehhehhehhe aka Mugungulu H. Mwaanga says: Research Physicist Maestro Hhehhehhehhe aka Mugungulu H. Mwaanga
    June 18, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    USA, thank you for everything as a partner in development.
    ___
    Prevention is better than cure.

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  30. vote
    flag Amuna Onzuna says: Amuna Onzuna
    June 18, 2009 at 10:02 am |

    Foolish!,God is not stupid to create that fore-skin,women like it when a man is thrusting,for friction and later for ejaculation.Mad Policemen,the next move will be to castrate the Recruits.Shame!

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  31. vote
    flag Tempe says: Tempe
    June 18, 2009 at 10:24 am |

    Its a Strange World we leave in.

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  32. vote
    flag Son Of A Smokin Gun says: Son Of A Smokin Gun
    June 18, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    23, MWIsho mwakosama…

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  33. vote
    flag Chi-Koswe says: Chi-Koswe
    June 18, 2009 at 10:25 am |

    iwe LT wats yo problem mune?

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  34. vote
    flag Deja Vu says: Deja Vu
    June 18, 2009 at 10:27 am |

    Circumsision male or female is a very sensitive subject because it involves TRIBAL TRADITIONS AND RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. You cannot force some one who has no backround of this belief to do so. Please re think before you commit an offence.

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  35. vote
    flag forencist says: forencist
    June 18, 2009 at 10:28 am |

    Warkie warkie warkie warkie world indeed.

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  36. vote
    flag Sturttgart psychopath says: Sturttgart psychopath
    June 18, 2009 at 10:30 am |

    hehhehehehehehehheh ihihihihihih

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  37. vote
    flag CM says: CM
    June 18, 2009 at 10:54 am |

    I am joining the Police Force. Hands off my skin instead improve the quality of Sex Education and self care, ala!

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  38. vote
    flag The Only Living JAY says: The Only Living JAY
    June 18, 2009 at 10:55 am |

    This iz wat donnor aid can do. In “appreciating” and proving that the donnation iz “put to good use”, somebody can even come up with such wired and bizzare ideaz as wholesome male circumcision!

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  39. vote
    flag imebo says: imebo
    June 18, 2009 at 11:05 am |

    This is not ” MUKANDA “.

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  40. vote
    flag Nutritionist says: Nutritionist
    June 18, 2009 at 11:12 am |

    He should have said he will ‘encourage’ them to be cicumcised. Choice is very important. Offcourse there is evidence cirumcision is beneficia in reducing HIV infections, no questions on that, its what they call evidence-based-fact in medicine.

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  41. vote
    flag Mwanakwesu says: Mwanakwesu
    June 18, 2009 at 11:14 am |

    Circumcision yakubukote ilakalipa. Good luck guys. Am not for the idea. Not everybody goes ku mkanda.

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  42. vote
    flag marie louise says: marie louise
    June 18, 2009 at 11:29 am |

    Start with the Commanding Officer himself . He should lead by example !

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  43. vote
    flag Dee Tonga Bull says: Dee Tonga Bull
    June 18, 2009 at 11:43 am |

    Circumcision has never prevented HIV if anything it can even enlarge the problem, when you start telling them that if they are circumcised then they are immun to it, they will go f.u.c.k around everywhere then they will die faster. That’s the problem of having people with very limited knowledge in charge. Nichamba ichi!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  44. vote
    flag Ghost dog says: Ghost dog
    June 18, 2009 at 11:47 am |

    By removing the inner foreskin, circumcision removes the skin surface, which is most susceptible to HIV infection, reducing not eliminating the risk of contracting HIV. The inner foreskin has the largest concentration of Langerhans’ cells, which are the initial cellular targets in the sexual transmission of HIV.

    The problem will be that these bujus will start thinking that they are immune to HIV,and yet circumcision just reduces the risk of contracting.I suggest that they totally amputate there penises if they at all to prevent HIV in the police service.

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  45. vote
    flag Kasama boy says: Kasama boy
    June 18, 2009 at 12:12 pm |

    Some policies should not be made public. As it is we will soon be assuming that when you see a clean shaven buju, it will mean that even the other head is clean shaven, taku tekeselo.

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  46. vote
    flag kaladuza says: kaladuza
    June 18, 2009 at 12:18 pm |

    yes! yes ! yes! finally male genital mutilation(MGM), although this will not stop the cops being sexually impure.

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  47. vote
    flag Chopu Chopu thats order of the Day says: Chopu Chopu thats order of the Day
    June 18, 2009 at 12:46 pm |

    Since when did parliament pass a law to make one joing defence and security service to be circumcised. The idea is okay but is it barked by law or not. Suppose by accident someone bleeds to death or does not hill properly who will take the blame. Mr Mulenga or GRZ? Charity begins at home. So a clear demenstration let the seniors who advocating circumcision of recruits start going through the process. I think there is need to consult Dr. Manda on this subject otherwise it will result into so many problems. The problem with our friends in uniform is they dont choose when its comes to womanising its ku gwila chape as long as ni skirt. talk of suspects they just catch. There is need for sensitisation among cops etc. There is a alot of immorality mu macamps and only little is reported. Change

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  48. vote
    flag Mwiyi waku-Musanza: Mugungulu H. Mwaanga says: Mwiyi waku-Musanza: Mugungulu H. Mwaanga
    June 18, 2009 at 1:13 pm |

    on “At the same function, Home Affairs deputy Minister, Misheck Bonshe, welcomed plans by the Zambia Police Service to circumcise male recruits“, who then initiated the idea of circumcision? Is it the Zambia Police Service or the GRZ?

    Have a bless day and keep well.

    ___
    Prevention is better than cure.

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  49. vote
    flag Shi mukokota nsono says: Shi mukokota nsono
    June 18, 2009 at 1:33 pm |

    Extend to soldier and ZNS also G4 security seems they like shugging lets make it mandatory for MPs and the donor community since they also need SEX least they get HIV ,ZED IS IN RUIN FOR REAL

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  50. vote
    flag 1984 says: 1984
    June 18, 2009 at 1:42 pm |

    AIDS did not exist prior to 1978. Not in humans, not in stored blood; not anywhere—except in the laboratories.

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  51. vote
    flag 1984 says: 1984
    June 18, 2009 at 1:51 pm |

    The cover for the introduction of AIDS into Africa and Brazil, with its large black population was
    the World Health Organization’s massive “humanitarian” campaign to “eradicate smallpox for once and
    for all.” It was perfect. It even matched the surest way to pass the virus: injection.

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  52. vote
    flag Marx says: Marx
    June 18, 2009 at 1:52 pm |

    Are you serious or this is a late April ****’s joke! This is a case were politicians are making medical decisions! Irresponsible sexual behavior is the root cause of the epidemic and not circumcision. Resources will better be spent on giving SEXUAL EDUCATION to these recruits with the aim of preventing infections. Their is no silver bullet solution to this problem as some guys up there are thinking. Please stop embarrassing the country with such kind of decisions and leave such matters to experts such as the surgeon-general.

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  53. vote
    flag 1984 says: 1984
    June 18, 2009 at 1:55 pm |

    AIDS was not an accident of nature. Nature had nothing to do with AIDS. The virus is a
    weapon of man against man. It is a weapon of war, deliberately created inside the top-secret U.S. Chemical and Bacteriological Warfare laboratories at Fort Detrick, Maryland and Los Alamos, New Mexico.

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  54. vote
    flag 1984 says: 1984
    June 18, 2009 at 2:00 pm |

    The truth is so horrifying that it is almost impossible to believe:
    that officials inside western government, backed by some of the most powerful families on earth, could be guilty of genocide. But enough proof of that truth has already leaked out to persuade many knowledgeable researchers, such as Dr. Seale, to come forth publicly with what they’ve learned. In a
    strange way, the truth behind the AIDS epidemic isn’t even such a closely held secret anymore. The media has chosen to ignore it.

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  55. vote
    flag Deetonga bull says: Deetonga bull
    June 18, 2009 at 3:26 pm |

    Vijubeni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  56. vote
    flag Dumbwi Dumbwi says: Dumbwi Dumbwi
    June 18, 2009 at 4:27 pm |

    Zed the real africa! Still confused with life and all that goes with it…. Church, Voo doo,Corruption, Primitive Cultures, bazungu’s and bamwenye are bwana’s mentality…………….. OMGoodness!!!! Wake Up mama Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzed

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  57. vote
    flag Belka says: Belka
    June 18, 2009 at 4:52 pm |

    Indeed male circumcision does reduce the risk of contracting HIV by 60%,but they should get informed consent from the recruits, without any coersion,only then are we going to have some respect for these officials.

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  58. vote
    flag Gazzzza says: Gazzzza
    June 18, 2009 at 5:00 pm |

    looks like the senior police officials have had their brains circumcised

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  59. vote
    flag chansta says: chansta
    June 18, 2009 at 5:18 pm |

    Might a swell consider castrating the new recruits in order to reduce population increase.What about the female police recruits…….don’t you think that females contribute to the spread of Aids.Give the lockable underwear……………..pa zed

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  60. vote
    flag HK Power says: HK Power
    June 18, 2009 at 11:18 pm |

    This is comedy ..LOL….

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  61. vote
    flag Ba Moze says: Ba Moze
    June 19, 2009 at 9:06 am |

    I dont believe what am reading!! There is no way you are going to force chaps to have their ntwenu cut just to be a buju. People must be given a choice.

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  62. vote
    flag circumcision doesn't work against HIV says: circumcision doesn't work against HIV
    June 19, 2009 at 11:00 am |

    Circumcision is a dangerous distraction in the fight against AIDS. There are seven African countries where men are more likely to be HIV+ if they’ve been circumcised: Rwanda, Cameroon, Ghana, Lesotho, Malawi, Swaziland, and Tanzania. Eg in Malawi, the HIV rate is 13.2% among circumcised men, but only 9.5% among intact men. In Cameroon, the HIV rate is 4.1% among circumcised men, but only 1.1% among intact men. If circumcision really worked against AIDS, this just wouldn’t happen. We now have people calling circumcision a “vaccine” or “invisible condom”, and viewing circumcision as an alternative to condoms.

    ABC (Abstinence, Being faithful, Condoms) is the way forward. Promoting genital surgery will cost African lives, not save them.

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  63. vote
    flag kankungwa says: kankungwa
    June 19, 2009 at 1:15 pm |

    Let the same be extended to aspiring presidential candidates. Except dont tell them its actually CASTRATION!! LOL

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  64. vote
    flag jalijali says: jalijali
    February 7, 2011 at 4:46 pm |

    nonsense! then beter cut them completely because circumsising helps nothing becoz AIDS is real ,no justice to force the boyz!

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