Catholic Apostolic Church of Zambia president Archbishop Anzanga Mbewe has charged that Roman Catholic Priests have been involved in homosexual scandals because the Church has been encouraging ‘homosexuality’.
Speaking to Qfm in an interview, Archbishop Mbewe said homosexuality has allegedly been adopted in the Roman Catholic Church because having sexual relations among men leaves no mark to show a sexual act happened.
He says it is for this reason that catholic priests in Europe go for small boys and other men to satisfy their sexual desires.
Archbishop Mbewe however says the situation is different in Africa and some parts of Asia where Catholic priests go for heterosexuality.
And Archbishop Mbewe who was once a catholic priest says it is a mistake for the Roman Catholic Church to put a compulsory rule that priests in the church must not marry.
He says the rule was contrary to God’s purpose when he created a man and a woman to complement each other.
He adds that it is for this reason that sex scandals involving priests in the Catholic Church have never stopped occurring because the rule not to allow priests to marry was against God’s wisdom
QFM
Yaba,never knew there was Catholic Apostolic Church of Zambia. These sex scandals are wrecking havoc in my Church.The New York Times is also compounding the stuation.
These guys in Catholic should just start marring.
Those nuns need men, those priests, need women too. Now we know what them guys do in those closed door- YAKUMBUYOOO
Ba arch bishop mbewe, wao, you seem to have been in the practice of homo-do when you were a priest. am just not sure it is right to generalise your problem as being problematic for all priests. Besides, these guys choose to be celibate, no one forces them, nga fyashupa they are always free to walk away. And hey, how is “your church” doing?
I think and believe that marriage is not all about sex, it is not the centre of marriage, so saying that when catholic priests start marrying then all scandals will end, is being very myopic. With or without the rule of celibacy, infidelity will always be there. It is all about personal responsibility and fidelity to the life one has vowed to take up, whether marriage or celibate life. If being in marriage solved infidelity issues, then we would not be hearing or reading about married men hunting for girls along streets at night in Lusaka and else where. Most prostitutes have married men as their major clients, married men with beautiful wives.
wonder when the Zedian priests scandals involving homo s exuallity will come out in the open!! Guys walk in Zed hand in hand all the time, people turn a blind eye thinking its just ‘good friendship’ when infact they are homo’s, who just pretend to be chimbuya’s, mulamu’s or akalongoszi’s!!!!! VIVA ZED GAY PRIDE! Keep it behind closed doors…..:)>-
#4
Very well put! I mean extremely well. You must be one real brother who understands life. Gotta respect such people.
Amen! We should all read the Bible. It says things differently from doctrines lol. This is good for the catholic church. All glory be to Jesus though always.
BaArch should re-read his bible about the heart of man which is “desperately wicked and corrupt…” Marriage does not cure s.e.x.u.a.l immorality, it’s the person’s heart that needs an overhaul. All these scandals coming out of the church are a result of man’s wickedness and love for everything perverse. We hear about the nonsense going on in the far east where pedophiles go as s.e.x. tourists and prey on poverty stricken boys. Most of these men are married. We need serious church leaders who know their bible, are themselves a good example and can address issues like this intelligently.
# 4 that is what we are saying, better, if them guys are married, and not to lie or hide in the name of priests. At least if you get married or married or you just say am gay or lesbian, people will undesrtand and not to stand in the church pretend you are holy and we look for them to pray for us, and what they do in dark rooms is worse than us who are going there for prayers.This is what am trying to say. I agree with you number 4, 100%. Let them- be allowed to get married, if we have problems and scandals in all churches-but this marriage issue in catholic must be changed- what do you think NAPAPA SANA
Ba Anzanga – Mulibe nzelu. You have missed the point of the problem altogether.
Help us know the problem
# 10?
am waiting to hear when the church will go green so that the sister who is mine can officially marry me. we are tired of hiding. the church has messed its self more than satanists. they better stop pretending. children are being born under ground and taken to their orphanages where they are brought up like they have no mother or fathers on earth while there mothers are portraying themselves in white robes as sisters, brothers, father, priest or popes. Jesus will teach you for this hypocrisy. go to Chilubula and Kapatu missions in Kasama and Mporokoso then search underground and see what is there. only the Vatican can tell. its pathetic. one of my daughters was raised there.
#12 Ba Kafupi lekeni ukusabaila
How could you let your own daughter be raised in an orpahange when you r still alive? You are either just joking or you are just one pathetic parent regardless of whether you r a catholic priest/nun or not.
# 12 you are very right. it is true what you have written and # 13 you have missed the point number 12 is saying.
We are talking about Priests, fathers, nuns, and the Bishops in Catholics. Not ordinary people. Read again sir/Madam
This fake bishop is misleading the masses his article has not provided basic facts on why catholic priests are seriously targeted and allegedly profound in homosexual acts among the priests, but he is using western media propaganda to raise his voice,just to distance himself from once been a catholic priest.lol
# 4 you are simply sensational!!! The bishop (bishop Mbewe) is lying and I wonder if how is going to lead his flock by telling lies. Leave the Church alone bishop Mbewe because we know that this is just a campaign againist the Church and bishop Mbewe is just one of the vessels the devil is using. Every organisation has its own rules and regulations and for the Catholic Church we are for NO!!! Married priests, gays, condom use , all evil things
Wellcome archibishop Mbewe, the issue of celibacy should be discussed openly. a bit of background might help, Celibacy was not introduced in the church to enhance faith or anything but sinply to prevent offsprings of arcbishops and cardinals from inheriting church property when these people die. Imagine a son to a deceased pope iheriting the entire church and its wealth! However celibacy has come at a price, it is virtually imposible for a Man to suppress his sexual desires for his entire life without developing a brain disorder in the process. Allowing priest to marry would actually reduce imorrality just like it does to anyone who gets married. we all could sleep with anyone before we got married but now considerations are too many and the desire is not as much.
Bishop Mbewe is a mental case. In the Bible Paul clearly says that if one is to do God work well one must remain single. He continues that if you are not strong then you can marry. These priests who are sodomising children have sinned against God because they joined priest hood knowing fully well what it entails but still went a head to accept ordination. No one is forced to become a priest so the excuse of saying the reasons why we have these scandals in the church is because of celebacy is as idi otic as it is weak. If Mbewe wants jig jig it is his business and choice. King Henry quit the Catholic Church cause he did not want to be bound by certain laws.
#9 MUSUKUMA, Thanks a lot for your opinion. My opinion about celibacy vis-a-vis marriage is based on what I have experienced. I know many catholics priests who have been so faithful to their celibacy and are happy in life. Unfortunately these priests are being thrown into one basket of unfaithful priests. Most of those I have talked to have expressed sadness at the stigma of unfaithfulness they carry even though they are not guilty. It would be a very wrong reason for the church to counteract unfaithfulness among priests with allowing marriage for priests. Let us leave Marriage to those who feel they can marry and celibacy to those who can live it. In the catholic church you cannot have both.
umusuku ubi ubifyempanga!not all catholic priests do all this jig jig nonsense.There are better priests,with all instruments,apparatus,tools functioning well.But the have decided to live a celibate LIFE.Let those who cannot control their tools just leave pristhood and go +marry,like Milingo did.umufyashi balisamupeela yoonse kukamu chocholi ,bakamba elo afulungana mudala zoona!ovaislys kali bhanununa “kung-fu” type!
priest or no priests !?dont be shy…………..only option for a man who is not hetero bi or homo is wa n king! The truth shall set u free:)>-
The vatican needs to be removed as the head of the catholic church and the pope needs to be defrocked for his involvement in covering up these disgusting acts with young boys. For your interest look at how much money the vatican makes from our donations to the church and this money is being used to pay of lawsuits against homosexual preists instead of helping to spread the word of Christ.
It is an embarassment to me and all catholics for this to continue for so many years. Let there be change. Why are we the only religion to have this problem? It’s because we don’t act harshly. All these priests involved in closed doors Yakumbuyo..need to be imprisoned for life.
Deja. You are right over St Paul’s advice. He also said “but because of sexual immorality, he would rather each man had his own wife”. Catholic priests should just go the Milingo way. The Bible says if a member of your body causes you to sin, cut it of, but they can’t cut off their members leading them to cause sinful acts, and they continue in sin. Why not renounce the vows and do the permissible – marry? It will solve or like poverty reduce some of the problems the church is plagued with. Marriage is Godly, it was ordained by God and Catholic priests would still have the drive to champion their causes.
iwe chi # 20,Besconi woods,how could you write such?
# 20 wansekesha boyi!!!ati “ukubanununa”….that word took me to those childhood days wen playin iciduna hiding in a flower hedge……!
I like the way this so called arch-bishop is jumping on the homosexual bandwagon- it is disgusting that the vatican is using this as a means to cover up the way it ruined so many lives. For all those talking about young bous..there are or were as many young girls also being abused. It has NOTHING to do with sexuality. It was done by sick, perverted peadophiles who could get away with it because young kids are scared of authority! They should all be locked up for a lon time.
Its funny bcoz i have never herd of lesbian/straight scandals regarding nuns but only priest with boys and girls:-?
yeah its true.the Vatican is to blame for these scandals.they have been covering up all the mess created by some priests.They should have just been chasing or ex-commucating the bad priests….in short they should been harsher wen handling such cases but they weya too soft.
Hahaha Kale naumfwilepo ati ukubanununa
Guys tamumfwa lol
Ichinduna chila lishya abaiche tababako! Some priest are honest and straight! Some join for the wrong reasons! Others were not just profiled before joining.
Thats why father bwalya is behavouring like this because those bazungu roman catholic high priest do ‘enjoy’ him( through his back side) in exchange of supporting him..:o
it is not only some priests but the whole catholic thing which is rotten to the point of being anti christ.we have always known this but so many continue being cheated. the celibacy docrine is the cause of both child abuse and homosexuality. they teach that if you want to serve God celibacy is the rule and marriage the option instead of the opposite as the bible rightly states.this is totally twisted and sick and a deception. the verses that no.18 is quoting have been corrupted. the catholic church is an earthly kingdom trying to protect its earthly wealth as no. 17 says.the church protects its own. it does not serve any God or its members.it serves its hierrachy (Pope at the top) just like any earthly kingdom. those with ears should hear.get out of this boat before it sinks.
Those that argue that this celibacy system of the church does no cause thse sexual scandals within the church are missing the point. The point is a question of probability. If you are married the probability that you will be sleeping around with other girls is by no means zero but atleast by your concious it is less and much less sleeping with other men. Men, consider the period before you got married for those who are and the girls u cud have had. Is it easy now to do the same? Lets be realistic celibacy is not very practical in this dispersation. # 27 u make a good point. There are allegedly a lot of abortions amongst the nuns atleast in the neighbourhood where I grew up. Even went to a catholic secondary school and the stds were good but I do not believe this celibacy is sustanable.
#33 RT – Having extra marital s ex is no less harmful than a priest breaking his vows. One has got 10 years in which to decide whether to be a priest or stop. If he says he is ready but after ordination he starts committing those sins , he is not only sinning against God but he is cheating himself. If he is discovered, his shame will be with him until he goes to his grave.Its better to join those Churches that allow preachers to marry if your calling is preaching than to go and hide in the Catholic Church if you know your weakness. For married people the shame of sleeping around is the contraction of AIDs and just like those priests are bringing shame on the Church, you will bring shame on your family and also give aids to your innocent wife.
Catholicism is a heresy, so why are you surprised at catholic priests’ behaviour. They are not born again, they are worldly. Jesus said unless a person is born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God. These people are not saved, they only operate a religious establishment with teh Pope as King. If they served God, they would fear him. They would know that God is seeing whatever they do in darkness. But they are not priests unto God, so they can sodomise and do all kinds of evil when men are not seeing them. They fear men, not God. So then, they serve men, not God.
Dont be surprised by all these revelations. I guess there’s more than what has been revealed. But it is only hidden to men, not God.
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UK-ZED Observer yOU ARE LOST
#36 Deja Vu
I can assure you the underlying problem is not celibacy, it is lack of reverential fear of God. A child of God, or a servant of God, should say, “I will not indulge in what displeases God because I havea reverance for God”. Period. It doesnt matter whether people are seeing you or not, or whatever emotions you are going through.
This applies to every human being, not just catholics. In the end, it’s all our standing in the sight of God, not religious denomination. God accepts anyone who fears him, irrespective of where you are on earth and what religious establishment you belong to.
Celibacy is all about choice!! The only reason this is scandalous is becoz anything to do with sex, by human nature, sexual talk is taboo, it has taken centuries for modern society to start talking about sex.
Religion is choice, catholic church chooses to serve God through celibate Priests & nuns who devote their lives to serve God & not be distracted by worldly or sexual desires. So if peole join catholic orders, then fail, which is natural, they are free to leave. But becoz they are weak & are frauds, doesn’t mean the church’s tradition should be changed just to suit these failed Priests & nuns. So people should stop condemning the church, just like in any organisation, there are failures, but that does’t change their mission!
You see, just mentioning s-e-xx in my last posting, is edited by LT, so even up to this second in 21st century s-e-xx is taboo for LT, should I say more!!!!!!
Uk-Zed observer, you call the catholic church heresy & not “Born-again”. Well what is being born- again?? If not some confabulating idea that is so nebulous – actually an idea copied from mainstream religions such as the catholic church – Baptism, where ones soul & life is reborn in the life of christ, & not these funny mushrooming churches whose sole purpose is to take advantage of the weak & hopeless & milk them of their monies!!
#37 UK-ZED Observer – This is a complete opposit of No35. Lets note that even in tthe United Chuech of Zambia etc there are Reverends who have taken advantage of their flock.This does not mean that UCZ is evil.No. The problem lies in the favt that when we recruit trainee priests we cannot predict what monsters they turn into.
Its is sad reading that some priests have no shame..
Life is all about choices. Nobody is forced into preisthood.
Solution is to make it optional. It’s a VERY BIG LIE that priesthwood and marriage are supposed to be mutually exclusive!!!!!!!
let us not mix marriage and celibacy. Even married men, that includes even Pastors from protestant churches have been caught up in sexual scandals. Remember Jimmy swargart, a well known Pentecostal preacher in USA was on two occassions reported to have been involved in sexual scandals. its not a question of being married or not but it is matter of morality.
my advice to the ex – catholic priest to concetrate on organising his church. he should emulate what did Jesus when that adulterous women was brought to him, he did not condemn her but simply forgave her and asked the people who had brought her if non of them had not ever committed adultely. I am sure you know the story. after all a church is there to help sinners repent there sins and not to condem them.
#40 Kamwendo
Jesus is the one who said “You must be born again”. This was when he was talking to Nicodemus, a religious leader, in the book of John in the Bible. Read it for yourself.
Firstly you are born of your natural parents – hence you have a father and mother.
Second birth is when you become a child of God – hence god becomes your heavenly Father. This cmes about when you personally ask him t forgive your sins on because Jesus died and shed his blood to wash away your sins. When you do this, God forgives you and gives you the RIGHT to be called a child of God. He also gives you his Holy Spirit as guarantee that you are a child of God. Read John and Ephesians 1.
This is how you get born again, how you become a child of God. It’s a true experience. Do it today.
# 41 Deja Vu
No they are not opposite but an expansion on #35. Anything that deviates from the Truth of the Bible is heresy and a deception. E.g. praying thru Mary is not biblical but cardinal to catholics. The Bible says you pray to God in the name of Jesus. Catholics say the Pope is infallible ie is always right. This is not biblical. Only God is infallible. The Bible says you have to be born again to become a child of God. But Catholicism says your works make you the way to God. Jesus is the way. Catholics pray for salvation of dead people, but the bible says there’s no salvation beyond the grave. Catholics baptize children but this is not biblical. The bible says make Jesus your Lord and saviour. Do it today
Hope this helps you to see that Catholicism is not based on the Bible.
##18 you really made me laugh:d
#47 UK-ZED Observer- It appears what you know about the Catholic Church is through Comic Strips like Scar face and Father Roberto.I wish we were sitting face to face.
I wonder why you, as an immitation of a so called Archbishop fail to keep your mouth shut about the catholic priestly life you have failed to live. With all those moral scandles you ve left behind you still criticise the Catholic Church?
I wonder why you, as an immitation of a so called Archbishop fail to keep your mouth shut about the catholic priestly life you have failed to live. With all those moral scandles you ve left behind you still criticise the Catholic Church?
# 51…MI DISPIACE… You are right! very sorry for this useless x- catholic priest , he is an ***** who doesn’t know what he is talking about..after for so long teaching you and become a priets at last to produce such an ***** gabbage…where you are , you are not after serving people but you are after money in order to buy breastholder yabanoko….keep your shit shut…
Mr Mbewe is a failure who failled to live upto his promise and commitement to the Lord and the church, upto now I have reliable information that he is still a promiscous MARRIED MAN, Let those who can honour their commitments do so,Mr archibishop this no time to be pinting fingers on your friends when you yourself is not living a morrally upright life. For now mr Mbewe concentrate on putting your own house in order then come and talk to the catholics, if you wanted to reform the church you should have done it from inside not from outside on whose authority are you talking…. even if you hada point its not valid any more….
JESUS SAID I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH…. How come one individual comes up to say he is the head of the Church… ekulubana kwine uku tule umfwa.. ubulalelale ubwingi. how can you claim what is not yours. Elder Bendict do away with titles which are meaningless. Pope? what is that.? The Titanic some one said not even God can sink it… it was sank by an ice beg. Some one said mu mulu Lesa panshi Kaunda who defeated Kaunda… just some Conductor. Even the Pope must stand down and put things in order
54—- you don’t even know what you’re talking about …you need 2 respect the Pope, b4 you open your mouth think & I say THINK te kubosafye iyo. I can’t see any logic in yr attack agnt the man of God :d
Dont compare tuma church twaficopa lyk Banda, Mbewe assemblies of god 2 the catholic, Ulicinshi iwee 2 call the Pope Elder Benedict, 2 hell notuma sydo churches founded 2 make profit. Ataaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa iweeeeeeeeeee!!!!!
Bishop Mbewe, one wonders if he has a conscience. He was a Catholic priest for many years. During those years he was tossed from place to place because he could not fit in anywhere. He fathered so many children whilst a Catholic priest till the time he was asked to leave. So you tell me you only realised the Catholics were wrong only when you were 50yrs plus. If at that age you cant tell the truth, and further you have the audacity of calling yourself a bishop, when will you grow? Like someone has said, the problem you had as a catholic priest should not be seen as the problem of every priest. At least we still have people like the Catholic priest who sacrifice a lot to save the people…if one made a mistake let us not make a sweeping statement… we salute you catholic priests