MMD spokesperson Dora Siliya yesterday said UPND president Hakainde Hichilema benefited from the privatisation of parastatal companies although he is now condemning the policy.
Ms Siliya said records at the Zambia Development Agency (ZDA) and the Ministry of Finance show the UPND leader participated and benefited from the privatisation programme.
She urged Mr Hichilema to reconcile his sentiments on Radio Phoenix’s ‘Let the People Talk’ programme with the history of privatisation in the country and confirm that records available indicate that he was an active participant in the sale of companies.
In an interview from Johannesburg, Ms Siliya said Mr Hichilema sat and led some teams that were tasked with the privatisation of companies, including sitting on committees that spearheaded the process.
Ms Siliya, who is minister of education, said the UPND leader must show maturity in his politics rather than pour scorn on a process he knows too well and collected commissions and other fees amounting to US$12 million.
She said the Government had details about the privatisation process at the ZDA and the Ministry of Finance which were available and warned Mr Hichilema to avoid cheap politics.
[pullquote]Ms Siliya, who is minister of education, said the UPND leader must show maturity in his politics rather than pour scorn on a process he knows too well and collected commissions and other fees amounting to US$12 million.[/pullquote]
She described Mr Hichilema as immature and driven by political vindictiveness owing to his crude language against other political actors.
She advised Mr Hichilema to respect court verdicts that cleared her of allegations of impropriety while she was minister of Communications and Transport.
Featuring on Radio Phoenix’s ‘Let the People Talk’ programme, Mr Hichilema said 51 per cent shares in Zamtel should have been sold to Zambians and that Libya’s Lap GreenN should have bought a 49 per cent stake in Zamtel.
Mr Hichilema also denied having participated in the sale of Roan Antelope Mining Corporation as the company was only sold to Binani Group of Companies between 1997 and 1998 and he was never part of the process that led to its sale.
He denied having received the $12 million and challenged Government to check his books of accounts at Barclays Bank where his money has been deposited for 27 years.
Mr Hichilema also called for a system that would allow Zambians access investment licences, which they should use as contributions towards the formation of joint ventures with foreign nationals wishing to invest in Zambia.
[pullquote]He denied having received the $12 million and challenged Government to check his books of accounts at Barclays Bank where his money has been deposited for 27 years.[/pullquote]
But Ms Siliya said Mr Hichilema lacked the political acumen to allow him to lead Zambia and his ideas showed he was merely a comedian who was about to enter a pact without a future.
She dismissed Mr Hichilema’s sentiments that the ruling party was jittery following the launch of the pact and assured Zambians that the MMD would roll to victory in next year’s elections.
Meanwhile, Mr Hichilema has said candidacy for the pact remains an open contest between him and Patriotic Front president Michael Sata because the two leaders hold equal power and chances in the alliance.
He benefitted by virtue of his being a politician or a business man? Was he to oppose the idea as a consultant?????
Ba Dora shut you mouth. By the way, what are you doing in Johannesburg? Your days are numbered.
Pipo don’t want you but still u force yourself ala iwe……kabolala
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Currently Zamtel workers renumarations or pension and gratuity is being hundled by grandthorn a company believed to be owned by HH. (correct me if am wrong). Am sure HH will also reverse this transaction.
If HH was an Honest man he should have refused dubious business deals which he believes will negatively affect this country and its poeple.
Despite all the negative reports about Zamtel, the best solution for the company was to patially privatise it so that the company can receive new investment and become more competative. How many of you bloggers are on Cell Z? 0.01% would be the answer. Why dont you support your local network like Kenyans, Botswanians, or indeed the same lap green systems in Uganda is being supported by the locals because its partially owned by goverment.
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Shika and Dora are of te same flock. When did this privatisation take place and why is it an issue now? Reasearch shows that there is more thiefs just in the MMD than the whole world. We tired of your politricks and time is ticking.
The man benefitted and should have refused to handle flawed processes . . .
I have a problem with these ”revelations” by Madam Dora Siliya, HH was a businessman then and the firm he worked for was quoted/contracted by GRZ for the services. If the so called $12million was paid from the Zamtroop A/c then I would have suspected that HH was up to no good.Just enjoy the world Cup fever in RSA whilst we dodge potpoles pa ZED!
#4 Let us not forget that our mothers also have those insults. Am sure you are PF and SATA is you ispiration.
By the way on #5 i meant Grandthorton the audit firm, if my spelling is still not correct you can do the correction bloggers.
Let us contributy maturely and not like #4 who has forgoten that he came through the same part of the body and now, he enjoys it as well.( maybe he even buys on the wholesale market in Lumumba road)or (DOFIN in Ndola)
Its interesting to note that from his visit in France President RB proceeds to Mfuwe, when coincidentally Siliya is also in Chipata, from Mfuwe he is going to watch the world and …. you guessed it right Siliya is already in Johannesburg, somethings fishy here.
#10 Its like know Dora so well having been at DOFIN in Ndola Together.
data yaba siliya is not making sense
So dora you are saying it is your turn to benefit…Ka?
Dora, U see politics is different from mini skirts and prostitution!! You are now talking like Shikapwasha who is very dull but atleast we can excuse Shikapwasha coz he is not a leaned chap, while u Siliya Dora mini skirt minister, u are a degree holder so don’t vomit malabishi?? HH did benefited coz he was hired by ur govt of that time to take part in the privatisation process and he did not sale those companies to himself but rather those who offered tenders. If u have nothing to say jst wait for ur boyfriend there in JOBERG we know he is coming to witness the world cup commissioning and that is the reason why u are there so that u shall provide mini skirt services!!
As usual, failure to differentiate between the company and the individual. Some fella was asking whether HH owns GT. He does not. He used to be the lead partner but resigned when he entered politics. GT was contracted to conduct the liquidation on behalf of the Govt. If any payments were made, it is to GT, not HH. I’m sorry, but Dora has her knickers in a note here. Let her provide the proof showing HH was paid $12m, she won’t have it
ENEMIES OF RB WILL HAVE THEIR PAST PARADED WHAT A SHAME
Note that from the start he has been giving govt advise for free like when he was featured on Radio Phoenix’s ‘Let the People Talk’ programme, Mr Hichilema said 51 per cent shares in Zamtel should have been sold to Zambians and that Libya’s Lap GreenN should have bought a 49 per cent stake in Zamtel” As a consultant then he did his job but the govt changed everything in the recomendation apart from the word privatisation and than you say HH this,HH that, thats total madness Dora
Note that from the start he has been giving govt advise for free like when he was featured on Radio Phoenix’s ‘Let the People Talk’ programme, Mr Hichilema said 51 per cent shares in Zamtel should have been sold to Zambians and that Libya’s Lap GreenN should have bought a 49 per cent stake in Zamtel” As a consultant then he did his job but the govt changed everything in the recomendation apart from the word privatisation and then you say HH this,HH that, thats total madness Dora
#15 You are not adding value to this discussion. Kids should not be allowed to post comments.
Anyway, as a professional, HH agreed and was fully engaged into the process of tranfer of ownership of various GRZ assets. Rather than deny this “on his behalf”, you must all move on. Privatisation was a system and HH was a part of the value-chain. Simple. Also, always remember that the GRZ is for all Zambians. You must therefore stor#p referring to the GRZ as “MMD’s Government”.
Lastly, I urge Zambians to stop being so negative. Most of you have have been “told” by others that others that you hare living poor lives. Shame. Look at yourself and thank God for the good life you have.
Dora has to protect the sale of Zamtel at all costs. After all, its her and Henry who brought RP Capital to come and get K65 billion from Zambia. Their time of re-conning will come. The sale of Zamtel is a very grave loss for us Zambians except 4 the elite few who fly with RB!
If what you are saying is true why not investigate and arrest him otherwise we wil take you to be lying.
How I wish HH should play a realisable game. His sources of wealth is very much questionable8-|
Dora,HH is saying 51% of Zamtel should have gone to the Zambians,he is not saying don’t privatise rather twig the majority of shares in favour of Zambians.Secondly,HH and grant thornton as an entity are totally different,yes $12 million could have been paid,but the big question is,was it paid for the job done or was it paid illegitimately.Was the bidding process done correctly or not,in any case FTJ’s adminstration should be liable if the whole thing was dubious.Dora,you exposing your ignorance,shuwa ka,those accounts records believe me will show the $12million as having been paid to grant thornton and not HH.Even if you are the majority shareholder,by law,the company and the individual are totally two different entities.Pliz,stop the hogwash,Dora!!!!!!
#20. Its not just a matter of thanking God for the good life we have. When FTJ visited Chifubu, a woman was begging for help from him, but alas, he used her depraved status for his own show & left her with nothing. Why did he visit her? You and many of ’em bloggers r in the diaspora dont see how people are suffering in Zingaluma & other such places. Crime has gone to ministers (DR Musonda). In any case, if Hon Dora says HH benefited from sell, who else benefited apart from HH. He blames the 75% because he has seen the lesson that decsion has done to our firms. Yes, other countries state-run telcoms r competing well. His 59-49% share suggestion is more prudent.
What lesson have we lent from sell of more than 75%? Nothing, we r still selling & yet this almost total share sell has killed…
Dear Dora, There is a difference between benefitting in terms of a salary and stealing! HH was paid for doing his job, while you were oiled for corruptly awarding tenders. Thats the difference. Taukwete nomuchinshi, atase! Ati, “cleared?”, Which courts cleared you? Just wait and see mwaiche wandi.
Then we should ask FTJ who was the custodian of Zambia about HH,GrandThornton and the sell of Companies? Hon Dora knows better and people must read the article thoroughly. I have not read where HH is condenming privatisation but what he is saying is in the sell, empower zambians by allowing 51% shares to be floated. Its a fair way. Any person who has knowlege of business in our modern & changing world knows how such offloading of shares does to the development of any partivular counrty. It is detrimental to economies. If HH was a consultant, he must be well placed to advice beacuse of the mistake HH & Govt made in that kind of Privatisation process. Can we heed adise? Its a pity, people Zambians hate fellow zambians with money. Zambians r always like that.
Comrades on this blog,there’s nothing incriminating against HH here.If indeed the grant thornton deal was dubious,i would expect the current regime of Rupiah to have done the Zamtel deal better and in a more transparent manner.Actually,Dora should be arrested coz,she is saying grant thornton robbed the pipo of Zambia,so we have to follow suit over Zamtel,clearly thats the implication.Also,FTJ was president when the $12million payment was done,if indeed this was dubious,why didn’t FTJ stop this payment.Again,FTJ was the custodian of Zambia’s assets,fudiciary failure by FTJ in this regard entails that he too gets investigated,actually arrested!!The Rupiah government are so desperate such that,they are targeting individuals-HH,Membe,Sata,Magande.It’s very very childish of them!!
Future GRZ Official,
You are right, GRZ belongs to all of us. If only you can convince your pals running GRZ to believe in that. Let them start acting like hired employees that they are. Maybe then people might take your advice a bit seriously. Unfortunately, the current crop of MMD officials in govt are acting like GRZ is their private firm and they are the senior members of the board—big mistake!!
As for Dora, why is it hard for these MMD people to distinguish between the interests of a private corporation and its employees? That’s why HH is challenging Dara and govt to investigate him and see if he was paid the $12 million Dara is alleging here. Because whatever money was paid the checks were written to the firm and not to HH—-is that hard to discern?!
Its amazing how people easily lose all sense of integrity when they are in power – even from an over fed tart i expected better.
They say that all men can endure adversity, but inorder to test a mans character, give them power.
HH provided a service to the privatisation process and was paid for the service. I m sure Dora also provided “some service” to the privatisation process of Zamtel and she was obviously remunerated for it.
HH used his brains to provide the service, and Dora obviously was thinking with her miniskirt when she provided the service. And that’s what makes HH’s service legitimate and Dora’s illegitimate. On that basis, our hands are tied on HH’s case but as for Dora, the law will to take its cause. It may not be now but later on pantu, umulandu taubola.
Dora the Newscaster,ever heard of the term Sole Trader,Partnership and Limitd Company.Did HH participate in his individual capacity?
Pliz differenciate between mini skirts and Politics as somebody already mentioned.%-(
#31 Mutule, with what you have said, i can confidently say, “walasa”. No more comment from me.:)>-
It is interesting that Dora is more comfortable with FTJ the man who sold our mines, but deeply unconfortable with the man HH who was only hired to adminster the proccess. It shows lack of issues on the part of our Dora.
What is wrong in Zambia?HH was paid all that money as a consultant and he could have not refused the payment after doing his work,period.So why should GRZ complain that he got 12m Usd and yet he gave them a quotation of the value to be paid and no one objected, unless Dora is asking Zp to find those in GRZ that paid HH maybe someone exagaratted the amount and that is theft, Viva HH
Tell me Dora, do you want to benefit too.
There we go!
US$12 million paid to HH’s company for services rendered during privatization.
Well Well!
Need we say more about this God they call HH whom they claim is free from error?
Anthony Lloyd @ 37, as a phd*- i a goig to all o your superior itellet to enlighten me. HH represented a firm of accountants/business consultants (Grant Thornton). Although he headed this organisation, ownership was jointly held with other partners. Grant Thornton were therefore paid a fee in their capacity as consultants to the privatisation process.
Typically such fees will be a fixed percentage of the consideration, so it is deemed objective. It also incentivises the consultant to try and get a higher selling price.
Does this seem in the least bit dubious to you?
Meant to be i am appealing to your superior intellect
HH has challenged this bwezani kumbuyo ziko lead government that arrest me or report me to the police, DEC,ACC or any investigations wing in this country to ascertain if i have stolen anything. they have failed meaning the is clean and smart. Hakainde did not privitise any company but the company that was employing him at the time had a contract to sell some of the companies and not him and he has said this several times. YEBO DORA grow up its time up now.**==**==**==**==
I am no supporter of HH, but in this debate he is being consistent. All he is saying is ‘let the zambians benefit from the privatisation’. HH, as a Zambian who has benefitted from the privatisation process, would like other Zambians to benefit as well. What a ‘selfless’ man.
Please advise that Hule that there was the Zambia Privatisation Agency which was tasked to sell Zambian assets,and a Mr.Valentine was incharge.Grant Thornton was ONLY employed to collect money on behalf of the Zambian Government.So,if there is any sin commited,then Kafupi should answer the question of the suffering the people of Luanshya faced.Also,remind Dora that RB’s Immunity will be removed in 2012 and all plunderers will be locked up so that they explain the dubious deals,Chiluba will also taste jail so that he has a feel of how KK felt when he sent him to Chimbokaila on Christmas Day.So,if they have heart deseases,let them seak treatment now to avoid disrupting court session this time around.Advise RB,Dora and Top Officials from Government to read this blog so often for their own…
Fellow Zambians for us it is kuya bebele MMD. We already know about the useless comments about HH benefitting from privatisation. The policies were government policies and HH was not in government but just a consultant to implement government policy. He now knows that it is wrong after seeing the result of giving away everything to foreigners from that history and opposes it. He can learn unlike you Dora who can’t learn at all from the mistakes of the past just because you are benefiting from the sale of Zamtel , the sale of which us the owners have refused. You will rot in prison in your miniskirt.
No.37 I fail to get your point.Are you implying that HH made an error by finding a revenue generating venture for his organisation and making sure the company hE worked for got paid.This is shallow thinking.As a partner in GT it was his job to earn revenue for the company he was employed in and he did just that.Did he steal the money i dont think,did he earn it ,yes as evidenced by Dora ‘s statement that he sat on a lot of committees.Please stop politicking and see sense in the advise from your former consultant.When HH forms government next year his job description changes from mobilising resources for GT ,to strategic thinking and resource mobilisation for the govenment please grow up,cheap politics wont move our beloved country anywhere.
Why has LT not published the Conversation btn Fred & KK as in the post today? Now we learn how dangerous FTJ & RB are if we can go by KK’s words & Fred. Read it people including the MMD bootlickers. Us r no party worshipers, we just want to rid our counrty of the cancer that is eating us all starting with govt a to a civil servant being used to process these dubious deals.
Anyone who associates with FTJ, must be watched carefully. Thats how Sata has been affected but the courts have proven him clean.Its a pit that certain quaters r rallying behind MMD even when we know how schemish their leader FTJ is. During his rule, certain prominent people like Penza & Paul Tembo just disappeared into oblivion!!!!! Alas, he can afford to stil walk the streets guarded!. May God judge us!
Sata, his party and whoever goes into an alliance with him is the last person/party I could have voted for. I am specially voting for the pact just because I will want to witness how Sata and HH will deal with Rupiah, Kunda, Dora, and FTJ after 2011 for all the crimes/ corruption they are now committing. But my wish is that Sata doesn’t revert back to his original behavior during FTJ rule (but at least he is not a thief by nature).
THE SAINT says:
June 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM
At any time in the history of Zambia, if people were not so blind to the facts, blinded by M’membe and his tandem of effeminates, this would have been the most popular government ever. The economic indicators are almost perfect. If this was a democratic western country with 6-8% growth, Inflation at record low and stable around 10%, a bumper harvest of maize (enough to export!), unemployment low (for skilled people)! Zambia and Africa are the fastest growing mobile phone market in the world! There are more Universities, colleges and schools in Zambia today than ever before. Record number of children in education! In 1990, there were 200,000 people in formal employment in Zambia, this has now doubled! Come on guys, this is a government that has…
I smell a big rat here Is Thandiwe also going to South Africa? Let her follow Bwezani Kumbuyo Ziko otherwise Dora Mini will take up her position. The woman is crazy she has been all over lately showing her ugly face on tv all the time. She likes camera so much who made amistake to tell her she looks nice. Please Dora we have had enough of you lately on televison.Dont cheat people with you talk thats how you steal money.
This woman claims that there records at Ministry of Finance to support her allegations. The question is why didn’t she make a full and detailed disclosure to show how HH benefited. Instead of doing that she just decided to puke rubbish. The MMD is busy trying to bring down the opposition leaders and all those that are against them at the expense of planning the development of the country. Their alliance with Chiluba is sickening and their deeds confirm that there is no honour among thieves.
Madam Dora Siliya Miniskirt Huleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! U have lost integrity that u gained while in foreign service and have become a shameless woman full of lies and miniskirting infront of Hon. peter Daka, zwaaaaaaaaaaa get married!!!
Dora should just keep quiet and enjoy her commission with RP capital and sons for the sale of ZAMTEL,is it a coincidence that just after the sale of Zamtel RB goes on holiday to mfuwe while Dora goes to Joburg on a shopping spree?
Infact in life one has to avoid lies & anger as it contributes to ones outlook. Dora used to look moderately beautful in the Mwanawasa Gvt MHSRIP, but from the time she became minister for Bwezani ziko kumbuyo, the woman looks agry not fit to be a minister but jst an ordinary masketeer.Jst look at the chi dress she is putting on?? Shame Dora siliya u must seek help from balangizi of lundazi and not petauke as they did not do a great Job as evidenced by the substitution position u have taken at the expense of our first lady!!
ifiko!!!!!!!!!!!!:((
HH was engaged, what is happening today when one speaks against the govt? do u think HH could have spoken against chiluba and assuming by then HH was even jst a businessman? Dora watch the space….wukesa nwina amanshi kulukombo…15months more and will see if u will open yo mouth against the pact.
@Antony Lyd PhD.
Come on, we cannot be blinded by figures. We hear FTJ helping the old widow Ms Bwalya who he met and could not even give a dollar. Shall we say because the economic record are health so we will do away with shooting of innocent boys(By DR Musonda). The rantings & threats by Wille B, FTJ himself and his minion of thieves go scot free. Did you read the post & the comments by KK?
You r dull with your Matero PhD. How long have we had this economic stability? And do you see any significant development? NW is languishing, there r no roads, no electricity but this is where Zambia’s largest investor is golding Zambia. Misguided rhetoric!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you earn your scholarship on corruption basis as usual? Then u r of no use to Zambia.
Gentlemen,Is George Kunda in the Country or he has gone back for review?.Its been days now since he made some News Headlines.
“Candidacy for the pact remains an open contest between me and Patriotic Front president King Cobra because the we hold equal power and chances in the alliance,” said the little Hedge Hog.
Why do people become i.d.i.o.ts when they get public cushy jobs? Please someone tell this woman Grantthornton is not HH’s firm. Has anyone seen Senior Citizen or his same s.e.x civil partner Mr Capitalist lately?
If HH thought the privatisation was credible, then why do people think FTJ messed up the privatisation. If it was crap, then HH should have resigned on moral grounds. But he didnt. If it made business sense, then it is ok.
Selling 51% to Zambians would not ahve taken Zamtel anywhere. Buying is one thing but investing in the company is another. You will need more than the $257m to turn around Zamtel.
Home Loan beginner tries to be Zambian expert.
Anthony Lloyd – PhD Anthropology – Oxford UK
the-homeloan.dontexist.com/lloyd-finance.htm
Look whose talking? The lady kleptomaniac herself. why are they so defensive now? They way everyone one of these fools is trying to distance themselves from privatization now that its already done, its so funny.
S-i-l-l-y Siliya is the last person who should speak on this topic.
Mwata spamming again.
everyone jump in the middle of his posts.
blah blah blah
Mwata is a brain-washed MMD cadre who unfortunately has learn’t how to post his rants on the Internet.
Iwe Ka Dora kapupa sana!! Hichilema is not saying that all privatisation is bad. He is saying Zamtel privatisation is bad coz its a strategic company. I guess you shud go continue reading news on ZNBC coz it doens matter wheather you understand it or not. If not go to ka Mulongoti for servicing. Open them legs for anybody to silence.:d
Dora is using the word benefint to mean corruption. In this case I do not agree with her because HH’s record is clean as far as privatisation is concerned.
If you are paid for your work is that benefiting from your employer? NO !
benefit, and not benefint, excuse.
Go HH, 2011 is for you. MMD is shaking in terrible fear!
#56, i am sure he must be gone for his ‘reviews’. this time no announcing because last time we made a lot of noise with his ‘reviews’ but we know them. he will just coincide with the world cup.
ba dora bena, awe sure. people have told her they do not want her, but ii mwandi, i envy her courage nangu its the big boss behind her? fikapwa mayo wandi one day!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LT, please give me my UK flag.
FOR WHOM THE WINDFALLS, Winners & Losers in the Privatization of Zambia’s Copper Mines by Alastair Fraser & John Lungu
Please Google and read. It will open your eyes. These people are not patriotic. They are just doing everything they are told by the evil, wicked IMF/World Bank who determined to rob us blind and keep Africa poor.
For sure HH benefited from the privatisation of companies, but not in a crooked way bena Dora are doing it. HH benefited through the proffessional service he was providing. Ba Dora what proffessional srevice did you provide.
Besides MMD is in power and preavy to all documents, why not take legal action or aleast publish documents in your Times Newspaper.
Barclays bank statements for 27 years. Let us do the maths. HH is 48 years old today. Then he was 21 at the time he started banking with Barclays. Good. 100%. Watch this space.
Am glad some @63 &64can see how hoodwinked @60 MWATA is.His rebutal stinks like a skunk. MMD rule is a quagmire and i invite peace & loving Zambians to rally behind each other in order to bring sanity to this situation.MMD rule is not a sort of ephemeral, they have run the counrty for two decades and all we have seen is a hoary hubris with the current govt.We r damn done with FTJ & Hone Dora’s loquacious rhetoric. This is a ‘break from the norm’.
@73 Mwangala Sianga-You last name speaks a lot about you ‘waligmaika’.
I for one had an account at 15. My parents could deposit little things. Am now 29 and i can see how the hill in my account has grown. He basically means-check my bank records and see if there has been any dubious transfers apart from legal ones. Dulll proffessor, just looking for negativity.
Go and get your thing oild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!by a student.
@69,thanks alot,George Kunda is a moving coffin,so he must have plenty rest otherwise,Rupiah will over-work him to death.
This is the MMD line of defense – your hands are dirty too. Worked for Serpico.
” MMD spokesperson Dora Siliya yesterday said UPND president Hakainde Hichilema benefited from the privatisation of parastatal companies although he is now condemning the policy. ”
Translation – yes, we are corrupt bribe takers, but you are a hypocrite.
VIVA HH. VIVA PACT. The young CAN die but the OLD MUST DIE (Retire from politics mwe bantu)!!!!!!! Love him, hate him, smear him with anything, HH is my man and not any oldwie.
I am utterly shocked that people are failing lamentably to distinguish, “services rendered” and “corrupt practices”!:o:o When we say, “one benefitted from selling TAP products”, would that be looked as bad as saying, “one benefitted from awarding FTJ to sell TAP products”? The later sentence stinks of corruption!
#76 Onzuna, George Kunda’s condition is stable. So we have nothing to worry about! After all, there have been so many “stable” ones who have since long departed.
Where is Veteran?,has he been retired together with Wiesly Mbula?
I don’t know why Dora and these MMD guys keep on saying HH benefited. Grant Thornton benefited. In the same way RP Capital has benefited, that money paid and gone to Cayman islands. All HH was doing like #31 said he was just doing his job. You employ someone you expect him to do what you asked the person do do. You expect the person to say know am patriotic i don’t want to be paid. What would have his business partners said. I believe during the negotiation he at least sold those mines for the government at a better price than one from Cayman Island did. And at least it benefited a Zambian rather than give everything to foreigners.
People who read this article need to at least get the facts right. I do not believe anything that MMD is saying right now because they are running scare and would say anything just to discredit anyone in the oppostion or against what they are doing. These people are acting like excited teenage kids left unsupervised. Lately it looks like the have been on an attach HH spree. The have gone from calling his father a theif to now calling him a thief. The have nothing on the guy and the just want to pin something on him. That also goes to some people on this blog. Same thing has happened with Mr. M’membe, this guys are out to get him but the have nothing on him. Since when did freedom of speech become a crime. How do you learn from things if ur point of view is oppressed? We need a good…
leader. Not RB.
@71 PACT, I’m can’t download the report. If you have it, please email me at bungwe82 @ yahoo dot com Thanx
Dora was a Broadcaster and A Promiscuous lot who swindled someone.Infact let her tell us how she got away from her Ex Hubby.Its High time she came to her senses and joined pipo who will rule next.
Coming to the Question what is she doing in SA.”You Know who was there last the latest Victim”GK
Iwe Ka Dora shut up. We all know how effortless you get postions in government even without public approval, you are one lucky girl who should be thank to your uncle RB. Demonstrate your maturity by concentrating on the challenging targets before you. You should be the last to explain the privatisation process in which you displayed gross incompetence
Well, there Dora goes once again pursuing a line of thinking that is clearly devoid of any logic. Is this not a logical nullity we are watching unfolding once again here, it goes me a strange de javu feeling out here. Just becaise HH benefited from the process does not mean that she can come round and try to do the same by selling ZAMTEL for a song and scampering to the bank with a US$2 million commission. I think when the next government comes into power, and I hope its Fred M’Membe who heads it, all thieves, HH included, should be executed by firing squad, at the Independence Stadium.
even SATA QUESTIONED HH sources of wealth
Dora is just trying to justify the $s she’s currently chewing through the sale of Zamtel. She better not spend it all in one place, Zambians are kicking out come 2011. RED CARD!!!!!!
*kicking out MMD
Dora just enjoy the world cup with ……… Leave HH alone atleast you chaps paid him for the job unlike the teachers who you cant even pay. If you pay them it is peanuts. Mind you it is I the tax payer taking your …. to SA and am not getting anything from your timed trips with …..
Phew can’t wait for 2011 wina azalila:d/
Dora should understand privatization and liquidation, if HH liquidated Ramcoz is that what she calls privatization?
Dora Silly Silly listen, there’s a difference between policy and execution of policy. HH was at the helm of the company that was contracted to excute a GRZ POLICY, to the company that was an inflow and HH as an employee could not do anything about it. Go on diet you too fat now at the expense of our tax.
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Hey people are annoyed.MMD have nothing to criticize on HH as a result every day leaders are showing their ignorant on national issues.
Dora, we know this is politics, but learn to say the trueth to save your intergrity. Just imagine this situation where you involve the services of an agent in the process of selling a house, and when the house is sold you eat all what you gain, then the other day your accomodation is under a Mango tree, would you blame the agent for selling the house or yourself for poor planning?. The company HH was managing was just hired as agents to do the selling thats all, and moreover HH just had majority shares in this company he was not the sole owner. Dora, blame yourselves as MMD and not inocent people because Chiluba your consultant never use to listen to anyone at that time he was really on top of this world. Dora shame on you for failing to use your degree to analyse issues of business.
Our mothers are carrying placentas in backets at UTH and we cannot sit back and watch the sinking of our economy while George Kunda and you Dora are flying to South Africa every time you have a cough.
I think its time to sing: “Kakuluwe kakuluwe, eeeee yaiii, kakuluwe kakuluwe eeeeee yaiiii, nawo a dora nankalale pansi eeeee yaiiii”. MMD has now gone into shake, rattle and soon to die party. PACT is matching on forward to govern, we need sane and serious politicians with interest of the nation at heart.
DORA TAWAWAMA BCOS U ARE NOT HONEST
#84 I tried to email you the article but it seems your address is faulty. will try again
HH’s thinking worries me so much. As an enlightened Zambian he should have the decency to analyze his statements. When he says 51% should have been gone to Zambians – which Zambians??? How many Zambians can afford to buy shares in these Companies. Hichilema himself and people like him – yes. And talking about HH having been paid as a consultant – don’t we complain that most companies were sold for a song? People like HH are the Zambians who colluded with foreigners to strip the country – under Chiluba of all people. HH is not fit to run Zambia and should not be allowed.
The sale of zamtel was advertised, so if the Zambians were intersted they ere going to lodge in a bid. So what HH is saying about the 51% does not hold, because no Zambian was intersted.HH himself has the money he should have been the first one to bid but aim sure he thought it was not a viable venture as compaired to cattle rustling.
It seems LT are dedicated to quoting this woman. We’ ll ride it out.
Chi chilale lale, chi moneni. What are you doing in South Africa? waiting for your man Bwezani. Mileage mayo mileage yakwela.%-(
#102 Advisor.
Your thinking is the one that worries any intelligent Zambian. If the MMD govt wanted to encourage Zambians to buy Zamtel shares they should have listened to constructive advise given to them at the initial stage of the tender process. If you put a tender process that is skewed against Zambian investors then there is no way you could attract one in the first place.
On the issue of selling Zambia companies for a song, as pointed out by most bloggers, HH was a consultant for a company that was hired to sell the said companies. He followed the laid down proceedures in executing the transactions, therefore, he can not be blamed. If that is your cretiria for chosing leaders than RB or Sata are not fit to be leaders since they once presided or worked for institutions that failed.
Off topic, i don’t know whether you guys know that you can make unlimited calls to landlines in Zambia from the USA, for $25.99 a month of course it includes unlimited calling within the USA and 60 other countries.The only african countries within the 60 unlimited landphone countries are Zambia, South Africa & Kenya. This service has been going on for quite some time. check vonage dot com.
CATTLE RUSTLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only fools don’t know that what belongs to the Government belongs to the people. Its amazing foolishness that fails to realize that all government investments and property are the peoples. Tax, you blind foo-ls. Tax. After 20 years of MMD rule, 70% of the population is by global standards, in poverty. This is the legacy of the MMD government these brainless cadres want us to continue supporting. I say 20 years is enough time for one to see a clear trend. This party knows nothing but corruption and poor plans that are not long term. We will not be duped anymore. If you care for the poor, you cannot support this MMD led government that is run by someone who only cares for his holidays and fancy trips while 70% of the people are poor. Shame on you, traitors.
We are definitely kicking out MMD in 2011. Just start packing if you’re an MMD cadre and you live on the people’s stolen wealth.
#105 ZedPatriot. At the end of the day, the Zambians you have in mind were still not going to be able to buy any shares. Unless you are suggesting giving them for free. You are very right about Sata and RB.
I just liked “Mr Hichilema also denied having participated in the sale of Roan Antelope Mining Corporation as the company was only sold to Binani Group of Companies between 1997 and 1998 and he was never part of the process that led to its sale… He denied having received the $12 million and challenged Government to check his books of accounts at Barclays Bank where his money has been deposited for 27 years” and hope the MMD and other HH critics will bring up more convincing data about 2011 presidential candidate HH’s supposed misconduct in any issue in Zambia and elsewhere.
Be blest all and take careful care.
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Matt 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things shall be added unto you.
Clear dullness of MMD ministers. When did Government ever engage HH? Isn`t the auditing firm that HH worked for that was engaged by government?
Guys, when are these people going to contribute to the nation, when are you going to plan and move this country in a new and positive direction. This bickering is not helping the people of Zambia. You have a responsibility to the nation but all you do is withc hunt each other. Sick and tired of nonsense, akubombeni ala…..a
Brilliant guy, this HH. Long live UPND!!
#101 Adviser you are worried of HH’s thinking because your mind is related to ignorance just like your party, I therefore do not blame you but what you believe in and that is your blind party of Bwezani Kumbuyo Banda. Enjoy your ignorance Mune.
MMD is just bitter that they are going, no more butter on our money, shame on you ba nigger.
#115 Chansa Unlike you my friend I am not and have never been MMD. But I will not let a pedestrian mindset dominate my thinking. Your HH does not exude the intelligence I expect from one with a potential to have been a Zambian hope. Just like you, he is putting arguments for the sake of arguing. I can assure you that come 2011 chances look bright that HH will be crying. He has to take an about face right now and but because he is surrounded by people like you, he is burying his head in the sand. In 2008 Obama ran a very well organized campaign under the right political conditions. HH is running a disjointed campaign when in actual fact conditions are very conducive.
#13 I agree with the bitch is not making sence she deos what she is tok by big head small brain who probably shags her the nation has truly gone to the dogs its sangwapo and you selebrate independence for what?the colonial days where beter than this dramer going on.
Dora the people of zambia are not happy with the way you are tolking dont think you wil live in office for ever think of the futre not now you have children what will be of this nation like 10 years from now if you keep on steling in the maner you are?what will they live fore wen you finish all the money now you theifs in shot MMD you are thievs and banch of leirs come 2011 you are out.
Where is Thandi if Dora is in SA awe hope its not true that Dora is with Bwezani.It
started with romours that Vera and chiluba are divorcing awe
Sata and HH have shown how petty and narrow minded they are. The Pact itself is the worst political pollution to ever occur on Zambian soil. Sata has failed to articulate any meaningful economic policy ranging from our relations with China and the petrol prices. Sata should stop cheating people that he turn around Zambia’s economy within 90 days and at the same time cut economic ties with China.
I dont believe in depending on any country for Zambia to develop. What we need is ourselves to develop Zambia and not china. Thats why I am calling you as dull creatures coz oly such creatures can surrender their economy to the foreigners. Really you are dull creatures.