EXCOMMUNICATED Orthodox Church Bishop Edward Chomba struggled to defend his campaign against the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation yesterday when callers to a live phone-in radio programme took him to task over his social life.
And a church mother body has warned Zambians against voting for Patriotic Front president Michael Sata in this year’s tripartite elections because he has the potential to turn the country into a secular state.
Even attempts by Patriotic Front (PF) president Michael Sata to save the former clergyman from the wrath of callers proved futile as they kept demanding an explanation for his alleged five wives.
Trouble started when former President Frederick Chiluba’s press aide Emmanuel Mwamba phoned QFM radio to contribute to the live phone-in programme that featured MrSata, Mr Chomba and PF Munali member of Parliament Mumbi Phiri.
Mr Mwamba said Mr Chomba should not use abusive language on radio, but respect the country because it is a Christian nation.
“Mr Chomba should not speak as a clergy, but as Mr Chomba because he is embarrassing the church mother bodies of the country,” Mr Mwamba said.
He said Mr Chomba is not a bishop, and does not want to accept what he is.
Mr Mwamba said he has known Mr Chomba for a long time and knows that he is not what he claims to be.
He told Mr Chomba to stop using the title bishop because he was excommunicated a long time ago by his church.
He also said Mr Chomba is wanted in America over an offence he committed related to marriage.
Mr Mwamba challenged Mr Chomba to deny that he has five wives in Zambia, Nigeria, South Africa, Malawi and the United States.
He also challenged Mr Chomba to sue him if what he was saying was not true, and asked Zambians to search for the name Bishop Chomba from Zambia on the internet to see for themselves his moral record.
Another caller from Mufulira told Mr Chomba to be honest because he knows his past, including what he did at a secondary school and a church in the district.
He threatened to expose what Mr Chomba did in Mufulira if he continues telling people that he is a bishop.
But Mr Chomba said he has only one wife and did not want to dwell on his personal problems, but discuss national issues.
Mr Sata tried to tell the callers to stop attacking Mr Chomba over his marital record, and accused them of being sent to steer the programme from the real issues.
He, however, changed the language when more callers phoned in condemning Mr Chomba.
Mr Sata told the former clergyman to defend himself and tell the callers that he has repented.
And Independent Churches of Zambia director David Masupa said any leader who advocates turning Zambia into a secular nation should not be given an opportunity to rule the nation because most Zambians are Christians.
Reverend Masupa said Zambians cannot accept to turn the country into a secular nation.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
Edward Chomba is actually a sex offender in the USA who lived with a marked sex marauder mark.
This is a complete lie.
All the places he lived in Florida, Michigan, Minnesota and others carried a clearly marked sign on both the doors warming beware here lives a sex offender. Sheriffs visited his registered places of residence to enforce the sex offer law. According to the US Federal law Chomba is not suppose to be closer to any kid or opposite sex people because he is a classified sex offender. We challenge him to initiate a legal suit if this malice.
All lies! Show your proof!
how can ba bishop have all these wives? and sata seems to be running away from this topic ey!!
How is any of this relevant to the average Zambian man, woman and childs’ problems? We call ourselves a developing nation yet we spend a disproportionate amount of time dwelling on issues that neither directly nor indirectly contribute to development. In all sincerity we need to ask ourselves what on earth we hope to achieve. Will your sons and daughters care how many wives this man has in 20 years time? You’d think UNZA funding, healthcare delivery and curbing corruption would be priority in this nation of ours. Somewhere the good Lord is saying you selfish people don’t get it. Just as naming a child Angel has no impact on how morally upright he will be, calling ourselves a Christian nation has little relevance to who we become. GET IT?????
The only interesting thing is this of seeing how sexual perverts and polygamists find a common ground in their delusions. Michael Sata in his 5th marriage with Dr. Kaseba while Pentronela Mpundu and his 2 bastards are aside, has found company to commingle with in Chomba a 5 wives man and Panji Kaunda another 3 wives polygamist not forgetting Frank Bwalya another sexual pervert and Mmembe a gay pot.
A BEMBA A BEMBA A BEMBA, surprise surprise surprise another Bemba in the news for all the wrong reasons. I am beginning to think the chitemene system of farming and forrest erosion should not have shocked me back then. If it’s not smuggling drugs in the ouchi Wally Wally, it’s stealing from the countries coffers, then having sex with chickens, insulting Zambians in politics or in general. Now it’s disgrantled bishops with polygamous minds marching for the demeaning of our nation. You people need prayers and fasting.
The real Christians are well represented by their actions, or so you tell us. Like a good friend of mine once said, “It is not that I do not believe in God; I just don’t trust the people claiming to work for him on this earth.” Now let’s all grow some balls and tackle pertinent and urgent issues, not this crap. Let’s have someone report on how ARVs are impacting production and encourage scientific progress that maybe our children will be both more pragmatic and less filled with stigma, tribalism and pettiness. I would rather be a proud citizen of a love filled non-Christian nation than brag about affiliation a nation where our senior citizens are pride filled, hate filled and logic ridden in the name of Christianity; when convenient of course.
Abena CB # 4,
Can an individual serve in leadership who lacks moral authority?
Big “NO!”
a leader must have personal integrity. If a man cannot be trusted, he cannot lead, for the populous will not be guided by someone in whom they have no confidence. To suggest: “We do not trust our leader personally, but we like his programs,” is an oxymoron, an illogical contradiction. If one cannot trust a leader, he cannot know, in the final analysis, the direction of his “programs.” A component of personal integrity is the matter of essence period. All these virtues are missing in this triage of Sata-Chomba-Mmembe.
Abena CB – leaders have to be morally upright.Do you think a crook or paedophile will make unselfish decisions once in power that will be of benefit to the ordinary zambians.a man who is a sex offender is of perverse mind, a danger to society .whenever he sees a child that do you think runs through his mind,definately not how he hopes to build more schools.A man unfaithful to his wive will also be unfaithful and disloyal in the way he conducts his business.I think Sata is digging his own grave by associating with the type of people he is associating with.
# 4,
Interesting that you are hoping to sale your Sata stamp without moral codes to a moral voter.
The wisest of the ages have affirmed that leaders must be men of moral integrity.
– If one is to have personal integrity, he must have a moral code by which he operates. He must acknowledge that certain things are right and others are wrong. Ultimate moral truths are inflexible; they are not situational. A leader must acknowledge moral responsibility, both in his words and in his walk.
Tell us why we should buy amoral characters for public leadership when authentically they have been found blasphemously fighting our Godly covenant and God?
Whats wrong with this country? Why allow a sexual pervert in the name of chomba to be given valuable time on radio just to annoy innocent people, when we’ve got so many inspiring individuals who can share their dream for this nation? Some of these things we just bring them on ourselves….
Ba Senior Citizen,
Is that a question. I mean I am positive you have the intellect to understand that we have been ‘served’ by persons lacking ‘moral integrity’ for years. Further, we have had our very own citizens defend these persons out of selfish interest. My question to you would be, should the definition of ‘moral integrity’ be changed to fit those you defend/honor/support? And if so, how does that help Zambia’s future. The energy you expend in trying to portray a popular person of questionable charachter in a negative light brings to question your intentions. If I have good reason to disagree with Rupiah’s leadership, surely I will not find it necessary to run a smear campaign against for that I’d both petty and immoral. Similarly, I find it ironic that MMD supporters…
Zambian Christians know better that associating with Chomba, Sata, Mmembe has some serious spiritual implications besides the issue of transference of their unfamiliar spirits-the spirits of homosexuality, hatred, lies, promiscuity and envy.
Why didn’t former President Frederick Chiluba’s press aide Emmanuel Mwamba, first ask Chiluba why he got someone’s wife (Regina) before attacking this poor Bishop.
dwell on issues personal background more than they do on development. Look, I am nit campaigning for Sata here, I am asking for folks to not drop simple logic for political affiliation for it matters more that the ship stays afloat than it does who you prefer for captain. And my friends, we have been sinking for years while your selfish and judgmental selves stand on our backs and enjoy sunlight and air.
Abena CB # 4,
The role of progressive minds is to foster continuous improvement and not turn to your revisionist toss on a risky oxymoron we have always rejected as a country.
On this the philosopher Seneca noted: “Noble examples stir us up to noble actions.” What would the reverse imply?
He is just a tip of an iceberg! Chrisianity today is full of such characters!
People who want to lead us, or who atleast claim to represent our interests must first of all, be of a high moral standing and with a sane mind. Zambians should not hope that they will change when they gain political power or that they will perfom miracles because of their fake promises and lies, on straight forward issues. Let us work hard to streangthen institutions rather than hope in individuals. This country will only move forward when we have institutions that are above and stronger than any one individual.
People Listen! The christian foundation of this nation has been established. And God who is faithful has already established the leadership of this nation too. Those who read the bible will have seen how that even Israel had from time to time wicked leaders but its destiny was intact. The blessings and destiny of this nation no man can take away. Hallellujah to the One and Only True God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. AMEN
Haha, senior citizen, good quote but no relevance. That does nothing to answer the question. I guess I’ll answer it for you. My objection to this is that graced with the opportunity to discuss the implications of being a Christian nation we chose to dwell on the personal life of a person wr all know should probably jailed; the end product being he is free and we are still a severely impoverished nation with a cabinet that lives a lavish lifestyle. Further, you seem to think this, unlike the man in question’s personal life is moral. That is not only retrogresive
retrogressive but also is highly immoral. The irony is that you have the audacity to refer to others as bastards and pots while doing all of this.
Yaa! Another episod of lies and deceit from a deposed bishop. Just shut that filth mouth of yours Chomba, you are deposed and on wanted list in the USA for wrong doing. Now you want to come to Zambia and tell us what to do? Just stop making noise, as there is no difference between you and Chiluba, who at least declared Zambia as a christian nation. If you have joined politics like I suppose, we shall take you on as politician since you are no longer a bishop, you were deposed.
Stop promoting gay rights in this country.We know why you are against christain nation declaration, you have been paid by the gay world together with Sata.
I’m not sure Mr Sata is a leader of good moral standing. He first saw nothing wrong with parading with this Chomba even after hearing about 5 wives.Not surprised he has five himself. But when he senses people took the matter seriously, he attempts to make the poor Chomba to lie by claiming he repented. How, when the man still has the 5? In the period of the program Sata performed a major twist big time. This Chomba, Sata was using as an asset quickly turned into a liability. The other day denied attemts to sell the country to sodomy but then tried to use someone to scrap declaration of Christian nation. Are the two seperate? I dont think so. People should open their eyes. Sata has no principles. He’ll ruin Zambia if people let him. Wake up Zambia!!!!!
Birds of the same feathers flocking together.
Drama in Zambia,When it comes to marriage, lets not attack each other. RB, VJ,SATA, Chiluba etc have had more than one wife. Our country allow poligamous marraige depending on tribe. Let us focus on issues that will help us develop our motherland.
The Church has been abused by the manipulators before, it is being used again today, and it will be used tomorrow. The Devil has found his ways through the church, not only in the present day, but theological history presents these facts. We the ‘people’ say NO to religious abuse, NO to religious manipulators who take the church as s business and a place to exchange brown envelopes and a source of livelyhood. We say No to the manipulation of the unsuspecting believer and No to bringing shame and curses to our Nation. Stand on those podiums and vormit your lies, you machinations and vile intentions, but do not use the Church as your podium.
Hey guyz, pardon me, I have not brought this out. In 2002, I parked my small car by Society House in Cairo road. Mr.Sata was parked next to me (black nissan patrol). As he was pulling out, he brushed my car.He requested me to to involve the police as it was a small dent which he would sought out. I took him as a senior citizen, a father and a leader and based on that, I agreed.I went to his office about five times but to no avail, as the man was either busy or just didnt want to see me.I gave up and had my car done for K400,000. To me that was a lot of money then.What kind of a leader can do such a thing? Its not the money I want but am just against the concept, shame!!!!!!!!
#16 Senior citizen what about associating with Chiluba a big ‘Lazo’ Zambia has ever produced a non repentant sinner, boastful wife snatcher? Your immoral Dora Siliya as Mulongoti rightly put him and Mabenga as people who are morally bankrupt? Lungwangwa a child deserter, Changwe a cheque bouncer, Musonga a happy trigger Dr.to mention just a few?
Let the man enjoy his sexx
Can one imagine one of the major opposition contending political party in a country, whose senior component party member aspiring for government position makes the party President campaigning for one of its very perversive senior confidants, who has had videos of his prowess in having sex with many women and men other than one wife, as its spiritual Counselor. Chomba is being nominated to represent the party in a forth-coming election in Mfulira.
Where is the sense of morality and integrity?
No. 14. you are right. Mwamba in a hurry to smear mud on this bishop forgot that his boss was and is no diferrent from Chomba. They just have diferrent colours and called different names. The man who declared this country a christian nation is the same man who ‘stole’ someone’s wife, looted the country’s resources and has never shown any tiny bit of remorse. They should all be seen through the same lenses, simply put chiluba may have declared Zambia as a christian nation but he is no different from the killers and thieves roaming the streets.
Nonsense.LT bring something Sensible to discuss
Apostle1.com’s added notes, opinons and comments:
We were advised that Bishop Chomba was, through the rite of Ekonomia, accepted into another jurisdiction as a Bishop without having to be reconsecrated. Bishop Chomba’s problems began with TP Baymon’s un-ethical and un-christian actions to depose Chomba for trumped up charges that had nothing to do with the validity of Chomba whatsoever, but the personal and egotistical desires and agenda of Timothy Paul Baymon.
Timothy Paul Baymon also heads the “World Bishops Council” which, according to last reports, was making overtures for union and communion with the Roman Jursidiction of the Catholic Church although opposed by numerous “Orthodox” (Uniate) churches.
The World Bishops Council, is alleged to be a member of the…
LT NONSENSE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ARTICLE IS NOT WORTHY, IT HAS NO SUBSTANCE.LET GRADE SEVENS POST THEIR DEBATE I HAVE NO TIME TO WASTE.NAYA PA BREAK.
What is the difference between leadership (RB manifests) and outlawry (Sata manifests)?
Sata did not even vet Chomba only to learn on QFM talk time that his confidant is actually a liability of scumbag with heavy load impossible to carry through.
What is wrong if the man can multitask? It show that he is reliable and efficient! When are we going to debate on issues other personalities in Zambia? I am afraid we will have to wait a long time for the electorate in Zambia to mature. All that people are interested in for elections are wives and ho*mos. What about jobs, health and education? How are Zambians going to benefit from their mineral resources?
Ok stop gentlemen! I was one of the so called die hard Sata supporter. I HAVE CHANGED MY MINDS. I cant continue following these immoral people as a christian. PF am no longer with you.
Advise which party to join RB or HH?
Nzelu Tribalism stop that!!!! it’s foolishness But if you’re saying it as a cousin that’s OK. we should be able to joke
Main issue. Guys stop being fools claiming that Zambia is a christian nation is just a simple political trick. It’s engineered to make other parties look demonic when the whole thing should not even be worthy of making the news. guys we have more pressing issues lets not get side tracked by simple emotional issues that do nothing but create more division among Zambians
“Reverend Masupa said Zambians cannot accept to turn the country into a secular nation” I have seen a lot of the so called Secular nations doing better as christians than us who have been declared a christian nation. The fact that we are a christian nation does not mean we are holier than secular nations. Salvation is between an individual and his God.In the so called Secular nations Christians are serious and our pastors who are always soliciting for money from church members. They can not even buy a tblet of soap for someone sick in hospital. Faith without works is dead. Being Loud mouthed does not mean being saved. Preach the gospel as pastors in the secular nations do. Stop being politicians.
I don’t Know why most of you Zambians like Sata? Sata can not make a good president. Sata has been in almost all the governments. Why should we recycle leaders? This Satan man is advocating for gay rights, he is supporting a polygamist go’nga Bishop. Is this the type of leaders we want? Shame on you who support Sata. Let us vote wisely. We need young brilliant leaders. HH is a better choice for Zambia.
…World Council of Churches.
The membership of the WBC (also confused with the WCB) is primarily composed of Protestant clergy who are opined to be questionable and nothing more than bolsters for Baymon’s activities.
It is reported that there are many other alleged charges that Baymon may be faced with involving questions of fraud. In short, as one clergyman recently reported, Baymon’s conduct in using the Church as a front is nothing more than answering the question of “What is a Con artist”?
The following information is provided as regards some of the membership of the WBC which claims to being “Orthodox” while yet, true Orthodoxy does not allow for the ordination of women as priests or bishops… for such is in violations of the primary Seven Oecumenical Councils that…
…are explicitly followed by all true Orthodox Catholic Christians of every degree, if they are truly in the spirit of the Faith once and for all delivered by the Holy Apostles of Jesus Christ. Very interesting…. interesting indeed! For such ordinations and consecrations of females raises even higher the question of Baymon’s actions and activities as well as those connected either directly or indirectly with him and those organizations so associated.
Consecrations alone is not a true test of one’s Orthodoxy. The test lays in their ability (or lack of it) to follow and practice that which the Church has always taught from the times of Jesus Christ, the Holy Apostles and Patristic Fathers. Are these associates of Timothy B. Paul Baymon truly “Orthodox” Catholic in spirit and…
…truth or are they something else? And what of their organization(s)?
There is burgeoning trend right there in Zed where guys are actually maintaining more than one home; some behind the backs of their legal wives, others openly despite having gone through church with their 1st wife… I am not supporting Chomba and his antics because a wrong is a wrong. What I am finding hypocritical is how so many mouths are being opened here without addressing, wholesale, what is currently going on. I was once told by a friend who is in this type of relationship that he can manage because women are desperate and wallowing in poverty. Is that a good explanation?? Masupa thinks when he speaks like that he is championing a cause – look at our constitution which, despite this declaration, guarantees FREEDOM OF WORSHIP by any religion!!!! Wupuwa muziko wapitilila nditu!!
& what is that busted Chomba guy doing at homo rallies?
People, Emmanuel Mwamba is saying google Bishop Chomba and find out on his polygomuos life, I have searched and have not found anything to that effect, any particular extract…why is Chiluba so jitterly about this man..we have heard BIGOGA or whatever they are called shower all sorts of praise on Chiluba, but, no one has ever risen up to castigate him about his wife snatcher issue…any way i rest my case
#46, I have also tried to search and i can’t find anything. These politicians…………………………….ni bafiikaala!!
What a coincidence, Sata wants to bring homosexuality while Chomba wants Zambia to be a secular state and these two are working together????? i smell satanism being allowed in Zambia.That is Chomba and Sata for you, ever ready to dump their morals in the toilet for the sake of a vote and dollars ( nizoona dollar ili nacibanda)!!!!!!!!!!
Wife grabber……………………ni ka Chiluba.
Mr. Chomba your are a lost zambian. Pliz come back to your senses. The Sata you want to force down our throat is to bitter to swalow
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You will not cheat us with fake christianity when the so called leaders are living immoral live.Bishop Chomba is no better than Rev Masupa.Rev Masupa went to steal from the NCC and he has not apologised for a flop in the constitution he was advocating to implemented.Bishop Chomba is not worse off than Dora Siliya who stole our money during the evaluation of ZAMTEL.The president himself has preached tribalism openly.Tribalism is also sin like infidelity.We are a nation of hypocrites.The wife that Chiluba has is not his wife but somebody’s.Let us not point a finger at Chomba and yet we are all the same boat.Zambian bishops and revelands are the worst hypocrites the nation has.They participated in robbing the nation through a fake NCC.They are now hiding in their pulpits.No one is a saint.
……………………………………….!! tombolilo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! viva HH!!!!!!!!!!!!! and Tonga land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mr sata’s pact with bishop chomba ( against the Christ in Zambia) is another drawback to his chances of becoming zambian president. anyone against the Christ can allow all abominations. Zambian voter beware of dogs.
Rev. Masupa flirts with one of my aunties.
Hapunda #50, is that the callibre of debate? Why cant we attack ideas and not people. I bet u r not married to say that about ur friend’s wife. Those are the morals we r debating here. No wonder u see nothing wrong with Sata and Chomba. I guess u’ll be appointed PF pr.
# 40 Kwa Mutinyo
I truely accept the issue of recycling leaders but what i think people are looking at is removing MMD out of power. That is all. People are crying for change. Whoever comes in power isnt a problem to them as long as MMD is driven out. Am not a supporter for any politicle party but i will cast my vote based on changing Government. MMD has done much and we need to appreciate though there heads are tired. What is in Kapiri Mposhi to boast about like the president did yesterday? NOTHING. The town doesnt even have a place where RB can spend a night after 47 years of Independence. What a shame.
#50 Haapunda….look at the little silly you,ooh poor small minded chap.all you know is insulting.it must be hating you to know that your leaders Sata and Choma(PF Bishop) want Zambia to be secular state. SATA=HOMESEXUALITY, CHOMBA=SECULAR……kekekekeke
This is a clear sign that the Church is being used for wrong ends. It does not matter who is using it, what is wrong is wrong!
guys i too cant find anything on Google about what mwamba was saying. was he lying? we may not know. but we should stop this character assassination. this is why in Zambia we never debate issues but rush to name calling and who is got a big head, red lips, big nose, short, ugly etc, of what relevance are these things to the development of the country. from just reading this article you can tell that mwamba was so jittery about this man. however, if this chomba is actually what they are saying then he should stop you using the title bishop cos he brings disgrace to the church and to Jesus Christ the head of the church. as for Zambia being a Christian nation is just a political gimmick to hoodwink naive Christians into thinking that other political parties are devilish. wht’s chrstn abt…
“He, however, changed the language when more callers phoned in condemning Mr Chomba.
Mr Sata told the former clergyman to defend himself and tell the callers that he has repented.”
Lol when the tough gets going, Sata does a mart! Lol.
He who has slept with only ONE woman be the first to throw the stone on chomba. Having said this, chomba is not fit for any office; not even a minute of air time on radio
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.hence,if you vote the same pipo over and over and expect different results, then you are….. kekekeke. SATA=PF=MMD…..kekekekeke
This is the problem with us Zambians, atleast the majority, We look for change for the sake of change? Didn’t we change for the sake of change in 91?. We ought to make a difference this time, we need to use our heads better, let us make the change that counts, not a change for the sake of change!
It is not surprising that Sata always finds himself on the wrong side of things. The reason is he lacks analytical abilities and therefore, fails to see beyond his nose. Just because the chap was calling himself Bishop Sata thought he could use him to prop the PF’s corporate image which has waned with time. It is very easy to see that Sata is being influenced by external forces, probably from those countries he got funding from, to deliver a secular Zambia to them. In his cheap way of doing things, he thought that if a Bishop can support the removal of the Christian Nation tag, then Zambians would see things from another angle. Zambians are too clever for these cheap tricks. In the process Sata has caused irreparable damage both to himself and his personal to holder party the PF…
Making change just to remove MMD without getting better leadership is like jumping from the frying pan into the fire. Mucenjele bane. Tebu prefect ba school iyo. These matters are serious. I can assure u it will be scandle after another, just like the number of PR gaffes we’ve seen with PF. Mukalila in trying to change u’ll get worse. What new thing are u going to get from Sata who’s been in the governments from independence. Infact what change. Dont choose the worse evil. Sata has been in govt longer than Banda and u call that change?
#61 Right on! Am left wondering why Mwamba and indeed anybody else should spend their energiez discussing this Chomba just becauze he haz a “Bishop” tag attached to hiz name.
To be honest any credible bishop who leads a church and is a representative of God can not condemn the clause that Zambia is a christian nation because i feel that in line with his preaching the gospel, he should encourage Zambians to live according to christian principles. With that in mind i fail to see how this man actually leads a church.
Even in an interview the other evening on radio phoenix (Sunday i think) an Islamic man saw nothing wrong with the declaration as Zambia as a christian nation and in fact encouraged it. So i fail to understand why a Bishop would say such things; really really sad
Chomba is a child fuc.ker who should not by any means have a chance of tasting GRZ or Parley.
Senior Citizen # 8
Your quote ‘Can an individual serve in leadership who lacks moral authority?’ end of quote.
My brother i think this question you posed was not well researched. Have you forgotten that a few weeks ago there were very sterning revelations from Mr Mike Mulongoti to the effect that there are some very high ranking government leaders who dangerously lack moral authority or are morally bankrupt.Most of whom, in a nutshell, are confessed but not repented drug barons; thieves and harlots of all hues, and yet they are in the corridors of power as ministers serving in the current regime. So my dear don’t contradict yourself on this score.
Senior Citizen, how about you? dont just hide in blogs and claim to be moral genius…..
Make every effort to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.
Hebrews 12:14 (New International Version)
Some of us we have already made up our mind” REMOVE MMD FROM POWER”.Whether its an etheist coming into power or not,we do not mind.We are sick and tired of Tekele William Banda kick us like thieves in our own country.My vote will not be cast on Movement for Mad Dogs.They have thrown our sisters and brothers in the streets.They have become a law unto themselves.They have embraced people with corrupt mind into their ranks.They are adamant about introducing windfall tax.What is the benefit of christianity when we do not have drugs in our hospitals?What is the benefit of christianity when our children cannot access better school facilities?The christian nation we are preaching about is a fallacy and of no value.The leadership we have is more of a pagan than christian.
Mr Mwamba if i were you i wouldn’t even made that call ,am not saying that Chomba is right to have 5 wives and later on use the name of God in his immoral acts but what am trying to say is he is better
off marrying 5 wives then grabbing some one wife like your boss did . check you self before pointing a finger at others
VJ Rigger # 68
It’s not fair to demonise Bishop Chomba based on allegations. At least yours were genuine proven cases of chamba and how many wife-concumbines have you had? Kwena chachine ba kolwe basekene ifipato.
Thank God, it is not one person to determine Zambia’s destiny…we shall all vote!
It does not matter who says it….What is wrong can never be right!
# 54 Sinkala, what are you doing commenting on your unties love affairs? That’s the problem with you young ones, meddling too much into the affairs of adults. Concentrate on your school works-Getway to grade 8 or something like that. Point is no one is interested in your aunties affairs.
In this election year mr Sata should read his political steps carefully. How does PF finds itself on this forum with Chomba. Wynter kabimba and others advise the old man correctly.
This reminds me of the passage from the bible when a prostitute was brought to Jesus and the people wanted to stone her. He asked any person without sin to throw the first stone and boy did they all walk away quietly with their tails between their legs. Each person has there own issues to deal with and sexual sin is not the mother of all sins. Gossip, slander, jealousy, filthy language, lying, judging others etc etc are all sins. Judgment before God will be about you as an individual.
Can somebody tell me why this man was excommunicated?
This is crazy! It amazes me how in a country where, despite being `branded’ a Christian, adultery is condoned by everyone and polygamy is practiced everywhere, people start throwing accusations and ire at someone very much at home in the Zambian culture. It is hypocrisy of the highest order! AIDS is a major problem in Zambia because of adultery and a social culture that condones it. You Guys better look yourselves in the mirror before being too righteous! It irks me to see my countrymen being so silly, when everyone is Professor or Archbishop when they no longer are active or are retired!
#79 just google his name as advised in the article. The world is now small in this information age. You can run but you can’t hide
Mwamba brought out all those issues about Chomba yet his boss grabbed someones wife and claims to be a christian? My foot!
Those who live in glass houses must not throw stones!
Maybe it the way of reasoning or lack of it that cause us say stuff that we say. Whether or not Chomba is sex offender or a polygamist, as long as he is not found guilty by a court of law, he is innocent. The discourse should be, is the declaration of Zambia a Christian Nation constitutional or not? Can a country be a christian? How can you have a constitution that allows freedom of worship also have a preference of one religion? The person who asks these questions or indeed the person who declared it is immaterial. The fact is that Chomba as a Zambian, still has a right to opinion regardless of his perceived morality. For indeed “all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of GOD”. This debate should be encourage and discussed soberly. No one should be discouraged.
Lesa wandi,How can our future president associate with this con man.I know chomba personally,l cooked nshima for him.Yes he is married to many wifes.,one of his wifes left him.This man paid for sex and was arrested by police and registered as a sex offender.He borrowed money from my friend and never pai. d ,This man will die with his sins.He just want a job when pf get in to power.I will be coming to zed to talk to the president Mr sata in September when elections are near and show him the documents from sex offender registry for him.Ni mabala ngako.
That ***** chomba l will review everything that l know about you.
Correct, all Zambian citizens have the right to comment on matters that affect them. It follows also that those that claim to represent us are not immune to scrutiny and especially those perceived as public figures are open to discussion on public fora.
Chomba Malaila, Chomba Malaila. Damn man, the cat is out of the bag.You should have kept to yourself. Anyway, on second thought, how could you have with hunger looming!.
Techno age, now you are trending as much as Britney Spears on the net.
how can you remove a peck from anothers eye,when there is a big log in your own eye.we have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God.so let he without sin cast the first stone.am not justifying chombas actions to be right.But it would be of great benefit if most zambians would concentrate more on national developmental issues.
THIS BISHOP IS A MAN GREAT AND INTELLIGENT MAN, HE SPEAKS HIS MIND AND SPARKED DEBATE IN ZAMBIA. BISHOP YOU ARE BRAVE AND YOU DESERVE TO BE COMMENDED KEEP IT UP WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THIS WORLD.
This guy is a conman! I support PF but please Mr. SATA don’t let this man ruin PF and NEVER give him any post! He cheated many Zambians of money here in the U.S. and this is not just being malicious against Mr. CHOMBA! The man is a conman here in the U.S. and he has no remorse for his unbecoming behaviour. He is not a Christian. He has harmed many people’s lives and I know many people he cheated by obtaining money from them on false pretenses! He has no conscience!
THESE HOMOSEXUALS OSO……………TABAPITE
Guys and people, what “Christian Nation” are all the losers talking about? Where is the evidence of that in Zambia? If the claim were seriously true, we would have to demand that all office bearers in Government must be born again Christians. However, that is not the case.
So stop wasting the nation’s time by forever discussing irrelevant issues while other nations are pushing forward with development.
I hope that my fellow Christians will not continue to be hoodwinked by manipulative politicians who are appealing to their faith and “majority” just to get a vote. Remember how divissive and abominable the person who declared this became and has been. He castigated Christian ministers of the Gospel right in their pulpits.
A nation does not become Christian by declaration.
A nation only become a Christian nation by conversion. But even then, you cannot call a nation Christian, because you will always have people who are not saved (not Christians).
By the way, as you wait for the Real Madrid-Tottenham game tune in to ZNBC at 20:00 Hours and watch a review of Mmembes past editorial comments on the politics of our country in the POST’s archives. They are quite educative and will keep you talking the whole week. Don’t miss please napapata. . ..
Moslems are proud to say they are moslem nations. How can a bishop not be proud that Zambia has declared it’s a Christian nation. Zed politics or people may not be perfect but are saved by the grace of God Jesus. That is why Jesus came. There a few eggs who may misrepresent Christianity in Zed…but Zed is not based on a few unethical individuals but a nation. Let us face facts a majority of Zambians are peaceful, kind , friendly and love Jesus. They may not live in comfort but always have a smile. Zambians have Christian characteristics in the majority of the population. Zed is blessed… What is more powerful the word secular or Christianity. The bishop is not perfect but calls himself Christian… how can he judge Zed and say they have no right to be called a Christian nation.
Zambia will continue being a christian nation even under PF, Sata knows that the constitutional review commissions have clearly stated so. So dont be afraid, come voting nipa bwato bane. PF Kimwamulolo (muliboat)
96 i am sorry for you. you have zesco power to waste watching CC3 My TV doesnt show his pictures it locks! i guess you dont have things to do. i have already read what he talks about in the post and so whats the use of me listening and watching a person who is hell bent on destroying one Chilufya sata with all the venom he can muster?
No 81, this man was excommunicated because of amenshi…wa menshi over mambala Bishop Mwamba, atoba live nayo. FTJ ashalila ukutalisana.
“….let anyone who has NEVER committed a sin be the first one to stone this adulterer…”
nzelu u r now becoming a stereotype person. because mpenzani a paramount chief of the eastern province did smthng tht shocked the devil. i wont point out the other people from the east because the fish rots from the head. chomba is silly and he will burn in hell if he continues with his behaviour
This is a strange bishop who doesn’t want his country to be Christian nation. Surely, can any sane person associate with such a character? Mr MCS, you’re trully proving to be a man with a coat of many colors, how do you expect to be trusted?
Can he (Edward Chomba) also tell us why he was beaten up by Timothy B. (Paul) Baymon (also another charlatan), a Springfield bishop of the International Communion of the Holy Orthodox Christian Church?
# 6 your pig, you actually have no place in this era. no wonder pipo of such minds never make it? i don’t nothing except the assult and beating he’d received from his friends.
# 2, thank you for exposing yourself. The data you just brought out is only at the Zambian Embassy in Washington. Thank you bamudala ba BK. Sad that you are rattling on Zambians you are supposed to protect for political gains. Only a very interested person in this data would take his valuable time to search public records on other people. The only data we can find is about the fight in Springfield which does not really worry a lot of people because the other Bishop was the one who was arraigned in that case, not Chomba. More over Springfield itself is a confused place – Remember the cartoon – The Simpsons. Yes, it is Springfield based.
Do you that marriages can be annulled in the US for not filing marriage papers? If you say he married several women, can you mention just 3 of them?
EEHHEEEE!!, THEY ARE HIS WIVES…….HE NEVER STOLE THEM LIKE OTHER FAKE LEADERS DID…….NAENA MUNTU, NAO ALAFWAYA UKUFYALA BAMPUNDU…….
If someone is indeed a “Bishop” and he despises a declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation (which does of course not make everyone Christian but does make a spiritual impact in the heavenly realms), then you may wonder whose “Bishop” such a one is for? Simple answer is Satan’s. Mr. SATA please drop that guy he is very dirty here in the USA and don’t be fooled by his eloquence. He will destroy yours and our party. SATA for president.
If someone is indeed a “Bishop” and he despises a declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation (which does of course not make everyone Christian but does make a spiritual impact in the heavenly realms), then you may wonder whose “Bishop” such a one is for? Simple answer is Satan’s. Mr. SATA please drop that guy he is very dirty here in the USA and don’t be fooled by his eloquence. He will destroy yours and our party. SATA for president.
I am proud of being a christian but I am ashamed when thieves like chiluba have to use the name of christ to steal and Immoral leaders like RB have to shield and protect them against justice…….Zoona Zambians have a short memory, we are still being fooled by ka KAFUUPI through this Mwamba nonsense, and there we are strongly protecting thieves to continue using the name of God in vain…..let us love christ but remember not all those who say Lord…Lord will enter the Kingdon of God. If you love christ protect him, leave christ out of POLITICS please, give to God what belongs to God and to Ceaser what belongs to Ceaser. Do not be fooled by politicians….I am not catholic but I love the Catholic Bishop’s stand, they have refused to drag the name of christ into the constitution.
#109 declaring Zambia a Christian nation is not politics… it is a way of life. Zambia declaring to be Christian is not about a few politicians it is for the nation. You are saying you are Christian why aren’t you calling yourself secular instead. If being called Chrsitian is good for a human being what is wrong with a nation being called Christian. God owns everything in the world. Zambia is on the right side declaring it is a Christian nation.
There are places in the world that governments do not allow prayers. The name of Jesus and bibles are not even allowed in schools and public institutions. This is done in the name of ‘political correctness.’ In this day and age Christian leaders like bishops are supposed to be praying, teaching and making people better Christians. It is disturbing when they don’t mind hearing a nation is Moslem or secular but campaign against one that says it is Christian.
# 110, that is a very good sermon to pacify the poor, the ones that have been deprived of their rights to own property due to corruption and thievery. At least let them own something – Christianity and living in a Christian Nation were if they dissent, it would be very unchristian and God will punish them. “God owns everything in the world”. Who distributes the stuff God owns on this world? Why the inequality in the distribution of God’s property? Does God see how His properties are being looted by Banda and MMD in Zambia? CHRISTIAN NATION MY FOOT! What does your God think about the people in Misisi, Kangwa, Chibolya in relation with people in MMD government? The Bandas, Musokotwanes, Chilubas and all those that are living comfortably using corruption money and trickery to enjoy life?
Mwandi mudala, ule “Bika fye!!”
5!!, kanshi upema shani???
Mwandi mudala, u le “bika fye!!”
Fi LT ninshi censorship ya bupuba???
Christianity is by choice and those who feel injured by the declaration, no one will come and force you to be christians. Please its by choice. Even if there is a declaration, we there will be muslims, homosexuals, pagans, satanists etc. What is there to injure Sata and his deposed bishop?
Our constitution is very weak and a man like Sata is a danger with such a constitution.Lokk at it this way, You have two bull dogs, one trained and the other not trained. There is no wall (constitution) or around your house. Which of the two would you rather keep? RB is trained, he was at UNZA, Sata is a grade four. With our weak constitution I would rather keep RB coz the untrained Sata will rake havock and its all of us to suffer. Elo most of you chaps dont even have jobs and you think Sata will bring jobs on a silver plate to you, lwenu!!!!!!
If Sata became president, no one would remove him as long as we have the current constitution, and if that is not a danger to you, then we are headed for doom as a nation. Sata can never bring any change, let alone misery.
so what if i’ve many wives,we zambians we have alot of time and space to waste on trivial matters.Our traditional chiefs including politicians have many wives.Christianity is up to an individual,there are people who are not christians and behave better than who claim to be christians.Look at this demogue who declared zed as christian country and brought in all sorts churches and pastors.They stole money,divorced wives and corrupted people,got rich quick and built manshions at the expense of the poor.Zedians don’t be used by these so called born again politicians there are tricksters.
#112 The sun rises and sets on the good and bad people. The air we breath is distributed to the good and bad people. Is it not only God who can do that? Do not judge God using human beings because God is not man that he should lie. It is up to the Zambian people to make a difference and change the lives of people around them. We have to look at our own characters and not use politicians as scape goats. Please do not judge the Christian declaration based on a few individuals. I am not preaching a sermon to pacify the poor. God is rich and wants us to prosper. In addition, I have learnt in life someone who may be poor in your eyes maybe richer than you in God’s eyes. Our goal as Christians is to uplift each other and improve lives. Christianity is one of the tools.
Ba Chomba seems to have weakness when it comes to piping.It seems the man has great Libido which he needs to learn how to control.Many wives or Women just bring problems in life
Fide #28.two wrongs dont make a right. the fact that those people had their wrongs, they are not standing for the highest office of the land. When you talk of Plot 1, the stakes are higher. accept it, anyway by Zed standards that doesnt matter.no wonder we are still amongst the poorest countries in the world.
Sin always catches up my friends, whatever one does in secret will surely come out in the open. God cannot be fooled. This Chomba guy is a deceiver who could have destroyed many. Thank God all is known about him now. More is still to come out! Be careful voters!
uyu bishop mwaume the issues he is bringing out is not for the simple minded but calls for deep thinkers like himself. Viva Bishop go ahead we are behind you Sir
Alyonaika right from the days he was young. He is bad news, do not get near him.