By Daimone Siulapwa
A few days ago, someone posted a link to a story which was published a few years ago by one leading private newspaper in which it really tore Patriotic Front (PF) leader Michael Sata to pieces accusing him of being unfit to run for the office of President, and how that he is capable of doing anything to get to State House.
However, one or two persons were not impressed with the posting, arguing that why focus on the past. Rather, what the two wanted discussed are new issues, and most importantly for them, the past does not matter. All they are interested in is change.
Change really!
How that word has come to be loved in Zambia since 1991. In fact, the word change this year has been used (abused) much the same way it was in 1991 during the transition from one party to multi-party State. In fact, a few people are likening this year’s elections to the ones that happened in 1991.
If that be the case, then does it not make sense that the mistakes of 1991 are not repeated this time around. Or unless Zambians are such gullible that they do not learn from their mistakes. The mistakes of 1991 are well documented, but just for the record, we the people of Zambia kicked out Dr Kenneth Kaunda and his United National Independence Party (UNIP) believing that we were being led to a land of milk and honey. But as subsequent events proved, this land was more or less similar to the one in hell or a land forsaken by God.
Question is, are the majority of Zambians prepared to go back to go that path again? Let us hope not. And if that is our hope, then the first thing we should do is to ensure that leaders are made to account for their actions, whether they committed them in the past or the present.
Any leader who has presided over the affairs of this country should account for his actions, this is irrespective of any political party, be it the ruling Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD), PF, UNIP, Liberal Progressive Party (ULP) and the United National Independence Party (UPND).
In any case, if we as individuals are made to account for our actions, be it at home or work, why should the same not be the case with politicians, who for most times, are the biggest liars. Like all elections, this year’s is about making choices as to which direction we want our country to go. In fact, it is about making choices for our children. What kind of a future are we bequeathing to our children, one without proper roads, hospitals, schools and employment? The choices are indeed ours to make.
Rightly so, the talk in this year’s elections should not only be about issues surrounding not only incumbents but those hoping to take their place, especially those that have been there before such as Michael Sata, Mbita Chitala, George Mpombo and Mike Mulongoti.
When an individual takes the initiative to run for public office, they must understand that they will be held accountable for their actions, whether they happened 10 or 20 years ago. Understandably, this has not been the case for Zambia in the past, the more reason why huge mistakes have been made. Had we taken time to scrutinize those that were running office in the 1991 elections, it is highly unlikely that the country would have found itself in a scenario such as that which was obtaining in 2001.
That is why those of us who were hurt with the happenings of public office between 1991 and 2001 should ensure that history does not repeat itself. We know what kind of promises were made to us, and how they lamentably failed to keep them without any shame whatsoever. KK had warned us about the people we were electing into office, but we ignored him to a point of insulting him by calling him all sorts of names. If he was not a Christian and Statesman that he is, he would today be laughing at us. But he is above such petty matters, and he can only wish us the best. And the best we can do is to not ignore his advice this time around. He has in the past warned us about certain leaders. And as such, let us not talk about change for the sake of it.
Should the PF be elected into office, will that be considered change? Is that the change that we can proudly talk about?
For some people, it hurts, but these are harsh facts that one has to live with.
Michael Sata, the PF leader was one of former President Dr Frederick Chiluba’s close confidante’s for close to 10 years and only fell out of favour when he was ignored as a presidential candidate for the MMD in 2001 in preference for Levy Mwanawasa.
And for the record, Mwanawasa resigned as republican president because Dr Chiluba was allegedly over-protecting the likes of Sata from prosecution for alleged corrupt practices.
The point simply is this, if the first 10 years under the MMD rule were so destructive, then Michael Chilufya Sata is part and parcel of that. He is the ink with which that 10 year history will be written. He served in very senior and influential positions including that of Minister of Local Government and Housing, Labour and Social Security, Health and Without Portfolio, effectively making him number three in the country.
Some people like calling him man of action, who performed exceptionally well in the positions that he served. Indeed man of action!
Where was he when council houses were being sold for peanuts thereby effectively killing our local government system? Where was he when our mines were being sold to Anglo-American and Binani only for these mines to either close or be put on liquidation?
Where was he when our health system was getting destroyed with the so-called health reforms that only succeeded in ushering a culture of transferring patients (politicians) to Morningside Hospital in South Africa? Where was he when the co-operative movement was being destroyed thereby effectively killing our peasant farmers who are responsible for feeding this nation? Where was he when this discriminatory Constitution was being enacted? Where was he when a law was being introduced in Parliament by then Minister of Legal Affairs Roger Chongwe to deny former UNIP leaders like Grey Zulu their dues thereby effectively rendering them destitute? Where was he when the Presidential Slush Fund was being introduced?
If indeed you want to pretend ignorant, assistance will be duly rendered. Michael Chilufya Sata was a Cabinet Minister, a senor one for that matter.
So, returning such a man to government with all his other weaknesses is what is called Change?
God help this poor country!
Broken promises made by politicians have become an expected outcome after they are elected. This must change.
Accountability is a term which some politicians like using but hardly want practiced on them. That said, we shall make them account for their actions, whether those in the past, present or future in this year’s elections.
What ever you have written is your own opinion I will vote for Sata and PF period!
true dat
let him vent all he wants we shall still vote for Sata
Pa Bwatoooo
Siulapwa this is great. Let us not repeat the mistake. Sata is not a man of action but a crook who deserves to be retired this election year. He is absolutely corrupt and an empty vessel.
We shall continue to staunchly stand up for our MIGHTY UNSHAKABLE empire more powerful than Shaka Zulu kingdom. We shall rejoice in the youthfulness of our ever replenishing powerful Barotsezambezi River. We shall go to all ends albeit painstakingly, to join the Kafue and Luangwa river and merge the Liuwa and Busanga plains. We shall shift the Inter-Tropical Convergence Zone to achieve the release of water from our water pregnant clouds. Once again we shall campaign for all mankind to start heading towards our glorified triumphant vast Kingdom which covers Western, North Western, Copperbelt and Southern province.
We shall continue to reign mighty and supreme like our great ELEPHANT the QUEEN of the jungle which majestically stares at our peoples from the high vantage point of the awsome UNSINKABLE Nalikwanda. We are above all zambians and our kingdom starts from the clouds to the land and the horizons beyond Angola and Botswana alike. We will blow our trumpets to the tune of the dancing river waters and the smoke that thunders in our mighty Barotse Falls which we shall strive to move from 7th to 1st wonder of the modern world in the 21st century.
:-w
london, you are typical voter, just voter for anything. You are right , who needs to read and right.
Simple logic, Sata was only a minister who did not have the powers to make certain decisions. do you think Mutati has the same powers as RB? certain issues regarding change can only be done when the head decides to. just think of MMD under Levy! the same party seemed to have a different manifesto, the MMD under FTJ, LPM, RB has been different
Number 1 you, your family and the cohort of your kind will vote for SATA. But for most of us who are objective and want this country to develop, i can assure you that SATA is going nowhere. We know the kind of change we want. its called REAL CHANGE. The opposite of REAL OF CHANGE is Fake Change. Fake Change is what Sata represents and we do not want FAKE CHANGE. So your lack of objectivity on important national issues should not blind fold you into thinking that a man with such a pathetic political history and experience outlined above should be mistaken for change when in fact he represents fake change which we continue to reject. Even in this years elections we shall reject it.
We want real change and only real change. and HH represents this change.
lol Sir please state your tribe!??
HH represents NO change
if he was serious he would have joined the pact but as it
turns out he is the MMD s dog !
Well written article…
If SATA represents change and hard work then Zambias are not only DULL but F00LS.
Do not say you were not warned…
go and sleep young lad.
Its you is a fool!!
Yes that is the word. Gullible
Or unless Zambians are such gullible that they do not learn from their mistakes.
Well Urban Zambians or the so called city dwellers sophisticated as they seem, they are actually gullible. If Chiluba joined PF, they would all be supporting him and PF.
I think the villagers will save us again from this regrouped band of people that have been sucking all the juice from the fountain called Zambia and they feel like it is their birth right and only them and no one else.
To me now,the name “Siulapwa” is synonymous with disgrantled myopic MMD bootlickers who don’t reason.1.Siulapwa is rightly condeming Chiluba’s corrupt regime where Sata was just a minister with limited powers and is deliberately ignoring that his Rupiah and MMD have embraced Chiluba their political consultant,so Rupiah is even worse here because Sata wants to deal with Chiluba. 2.Siulapwa is asking where Sata was during privitisation,again,the chap is ignoring that Rupiah dubiously sold Zamtel and is involved in many other corrupt deals the NAPSA one inclusive.Abuse of office clause,failed consititution,mobile hospitals,arms deal,etc
And Silupwa is also refusing to answer the question that HH WAS A CHIEF PRIVATISOR!
B4 PRIVATISATION HH WAS A NOBODY but afterwards a rich man!
why has he never answered the question as to where e got his funds from!???
Good evening
The article provokes some interesting thoughts in retrospect but in my opinion, the author has only polarised but failed to give the reader an alternative.
The truth of the matter is that change remains the primary form of a democracy and only the call for change will continue to move the masses to the polls in any nation. In Europe and the US for instance, change is the order of the day in politics. If a government is not seen to be delivering the general needs of society, it is voted out and a new government is created. It is rarely a question of personal obsession about certain leaders. It is rather a collective will to decide which government is able to connect and deliver the needs of individuals. Change is simply democracy in practise.
weather u lyk it or not,i wil vote fo 1 KING COBRA so are my frndz.
Zambians , take time to reflect on issues than just reacting . This article comes as a timely warning to us all, whether in diaspora or at home
BEWARE OF SMALL TRIBAL PARTIES WHICH SPLIT VOTES.
Great article. The voice of reason.
Diamond Sialupwa should stop writing these hopeless articles, if it was in paper it could be worst of natural resources, but online we can just throw it in junk mails. Even Zambian Dailymail can’t use such thinking and bubbling. I always wonder who funds LT, I wouldn’t pay for such kind of product.
# 11 Chale, today I will agree with you.
Things are not okay at the moment but we need to understand that they can get much worse if vote wrongly.
This is propaganda for the simple minded ones and the most usless article I have ever read.
We know that Lusaka Times is an MMD platform and that things are not good for our fellow Zambians in the MMD because change is surely coming.
IFWE NI PABWATO AND MICHAEL SATA COME WHAT MAY.
VOTE SATA AND PF IF YOU WANT CHANGE.
BEWARE OF SMALL TRIBAL PARTIES WHICH SPLIT VOTES.
And I will not vote for Cobra!
The aticle underlines the fundamental problem. The presidency is too concentrated in one person. There is need to spread the power around through a better constitution. Sata seems to have at least promised that CHANGE.
The name Siulwapa is synonemous with politics of poverty .
Once again you all seem to be putting your hopes in a man. I believe that the only way forward for a country like ours is for individuals to excel in whatever they have chosen as their career or hobby. After each one is successful, then it is bound to rub on to others so that together Zambia can move forward. Sata, RB, HH do not have all the answers and I can assure you that whoever becomes President will be under the spotlight and critics will start throwing mud at him from the first day. I am always reminded of what JFK said and I quote “Ask what you can do for your country and not what the country can do for you”. The American economy is driven by entrepreneurship and not hero worshipping of individuals.
true ba Shaka!
BEWARE OF SMALL TRIBAL PARTIES WHICH SPLIT VOTES.
its seems lusaka times is becoming bias to some political parties! please present a fair platform for every party.
We have made a decision, PF of his excellence Michael Chilufya is headed for win. This article has been written by a sympathizer of MMD. We are not shaken.
WELL WRITTEN AND OBJECTIVE BUT THE FINAL DECISION LIES WITH THE VOTERS.
“Our task now is not to fix the blame for the past, but to fix the course for the future” – John F Kennedy.
Sata and the PF have failed to define the future for Zambia and no amount of polemics from Fred Mmembe and his biased news organisation can change the minds of Zambia. It is evident that majority of Zambians prefer to live in the “hell of President Banda than to spend a single minute in the paradise of Mr Sata”. How come PF has the backing of the POST but they have failed to turn the electoral tide in their favour? What makes humanity unique in the animal kingdom is that human beings have a brain that allows them to make choices and one such choice must relate to the kind of social contract that they feel comfortable with. Post Editors think otherwise. Viva MMD
The only change zambians need is in HHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT IS CALLED INSANITY(voting for MMD or Pa Fwaka is doing the same thing and expecting the nation to move forward )
FELLOW ZAMBIANS PF AND MMD ARE THE SAME SIDE OF A COIN lets break with the past by voting young leaders who are relevant to our Generation (we have HH,CHIPMO,MILUPI and many other vibrant politicians to choose from it’s time we had a young leader remember KK was 40when he took office and look at what he accomplished.
RB,SATA and all the old guard that have failed us in the past should retire and pass the baton to the new generation.
Daimone Siulapwa – author:
You are very dull! That picture has nothing to do with solidarity, those people were protesting againts the police. People have already decided to change GRZ through PF! Just go home take a chill pill!
Come election day, just watch Zambians commit mass suicide by voting for a mad man for president. Maybe this is what Zambians need to wake up from their slumber.
THE AUTHOR OF THIS ARTICLE IS POINTING OUT THE PROBLEM THAT THE CHANGE CAN BRING BUT HE IS NOT GIVING THE ALTERNATIVE OR SOLUTION. TO ME RB IS NOT THE OPTION
THE 1991 BROUGHT US A PERSON WITH NO RUNNING OF GOVERMENT EXPERIENCE AND ZAMBIANS EXPERIENCE DTHE WORST POVERTY LEVELS.WE WANT THE CHANGE WE KNOW.VOTE FOR PF AND MICHEAL SATA.HH TO START LIKE OBAMA AND CLIMB LADDER.
I JUST HOPE HE IS NOT ONE OF THE PIPO FEASTING WITH RB AND HIS SONS. GIVE US THE ALTERNATIVE AND NOT JUST WRITING RUBISH.
No doubt the Bembalization utopia has completely consumed Bemba tribalists into believing that Zambians of strong cultural values, moral uprightness, self respect, national interest, intellectual clout and shared interest would fall for ichinangwa chakantu they are vainly rescilitating into a ballot commodity but to no success. Fred Mmembe nailed it all from time in memorial to yesterday. What a league of shallow, deluded but callous tribalist. Reversing national gains or risking our country by rewarding a certified tribal thug that has a record of fighting every effort of national unity and cultural heritage can never be change the change Zambia deserve. Let his clansmen vote for him. We have no respect for Kaela , Chola or Mushimba all certified tribal cadres behind the utopia.
@5, as a government in waiting, we tell a good leader by tracing what he has done in the past, and who he has been associated with in that past. being a minister and therefore not being responsible for the mess caused by a government that you served is the ultimate sign of betrayal. mr sata was part and parcel of the first ten years of mmd rule, the records are there to show his wholesome endorsement of that regime, these include interviews on znbc tv with late goretti, newspaper archives especially the post. he insulted anybody who dared oppose. now if he did not agree with the regime surely he could have formed pf then, in 1996, why wait until 2001? sorry guys the man has too much baggage to be considered for plot 1 and you know it in your hearts.
21# SHAKA
That’s the way to go. Tell these complainers.
INDEPENDENCE OBSERVER and MR. CAPITALIST – 3 E’S STEERING ECONOMIC GROWTH have always been advocating about self belief.
#25 I like your quotation from JFK. Allow me to digrace a bit. Zambian politicians will only change something if they see that they are personally going to gain something out it. A case in point is dual citizenship for those of us in the “diaspora”. This issue has been tabled and raised at a number of meetings but nothing has been concluded up to now. If one of the politicians was directly affected, I can assure you that it would be concluded at lightening speed. Most countries are now being ruled by people below the age of 50 e.g. England and USA but we are still looking to recycled politicians to lead us in this age. I am in my 40s and I can remember people like VJ , SATA , RB when I was still at primary school. Where are the young and future leaders?
What change – ANY CHANGE.
This is not 1991, when people don’t know what to expect from multi-party democracy, and where an FTJ can move to the front of the MMD.
We have had 20 years of a failed economic ideology called neoliberal economics. It is tearing down the world economy before our eyes. Only a fool would keep doing the same thing after it has been proven again and again to fail.
We need a people centered ideology and government. The PF is the only main party that fits that bill.
The UPND has no chance – get back to me when they are bigger than the PF. Even if they were, they are still dull enough to hang on to the same neoliberal ideology – deregulation, privatisation, free markets for transnational capital. More FDI and theft of resources.
as if his past was not bad enough, now he cheats people with 90 days, more money in your pockets, and add to that the homo lesbian support. why use lies and deception to get power if he is the change that zambia desires. what more evidence do you require to judge the character of a leader? more exposure is coming before election date is even announced, just wait for the case of cc3 versus cobra, you will hear more than what you bargained for. that will be the end of cobra
It is clear that Zambians will not vote for Sata. It is a fact that Sata will not win any presidential election against any sane Zambian. No wonder he has not held any such election even in his own party.
Yesterday someone forwarded an article written by a tired, indiscent, irrational and shameless PF tribalist based in Canada who served as late Alice Lenshina’s Kampenga in her Lumpa Sect. Actually after GRZ crash the Lumpa sect, he become UPP cadre then UNIP.
What i’m i saying about it? Ignoring it is the best way of trashing it because analyzing it with comments is dignifying his insanity.We challenge him to stand up and say Given Lubinda, or Inonge be the presidential candidate. Because he is a tribalist motivated by it, he holds the delution that insanity is a choice for Zambian voters from Zimba to Chilubi, Shang’ombo to Tembwe, Chavuma to Feira. Good luck. MMD will reign triumpantly from border to border in a Winner take it all.
Yesterday someone forwarded in my email account an article written by a tired, indiscent, irrational and shameless PF tribalist based in Canada who served as late Alice Lenshina’s Kampenga in her Lumpa Sect. Actually after GRZ crashed the Lumpa sect, he became UPP cadre then UNIP.
What i’m i saying about the flawed article? Ignoring it is the best way of trashing it. Commenting would be dignifying his insanity.We challenge him to stand up and say Given Lubinda, or Inonge be the presidential candidate. Because he is a tribalist motivated by it, he holds the delution that insanity is a choice for all Zambian voters from Zimba to Chilubi, Shang’ombo to Tembwe, Chavuma to Feira. Good luck. MMD will reign triumpantly from border to border in a Winner take it all.
Finally someone with the guts to tell it like it is. Indeed change what change it is all a smokescreen and a deception of the highest order. GREAT ARTICLE DAIMONE. YOU ARE NOW SHOWING GOOD INTELLECT AND ANALYSIS
I want the link mentioned in the opening paragraph of this article. help please.
This article is extremely unbalanced. Why pick out only one candidate. What about the doings of RB in his UNIP times? The level of analysis is quite shallow and is just a waste of blogging space.
Daimone Siulapwa: the thing I like about you is that you listen to proper reasoning. I was one of the bloggers who took you to task over your last article and I am very impressed with your response. You are a true intellectual and I admire your courage to face issues head on. Please feel free to contact me on [email protected] for a one to one constructive discussion. You are a true son of the soil, a true Zambian to be proud of.
MMD chap have no points. Comment on the matter at hand and not venting your anger on The Post you uncultured brats.
Mmembe and his editorial staff have a tendency of quoting anonymous sources and in this way they are constantly misrepresenting the facts to smear innocent people by innuendo. Mmembe’s newspaper has tried to disingenuously portray PF as moderate party. Every organisation takes after the character of its leader, if a leader can encourage use of machetes and abductions to win a by-election, can such a leader be called a democrat? This is the misinformation Mmembe is purveying about PF, but the Zambian masses of 2011 will not buy that nonsense.
Until this article, I have been wondering who funds Lusaka Times. The blog is now an extention of Times of Zambia or MMD campaign blog. Lets take the facts as they stand; Sata worked with Chiluba and therefore is not fit rule Zambia. HH worked with Chiluba and was responsible for the liquidation of many companies in unclear manner pocketing billions. Does he qualify to rule? Rupiya Banda worked with Kaunda and was responsible for the economic mess of the 80s and the violence and intimidation of the majority. He worked with Levy and his government is known for corruption. Yet he and HH are the best candidates for Zambia and not Sata. The reason the author ignored RB and HH is because they are overshadowed by Sata. Be civil, sell Rupiya if he is marketable or shut up!! Period!
Senior Citizen
Your ignorance is appalling. Your are paid by Banda to blog nonsense! How on earth can you link Lenshina with this story! Do you know the facts that surround Lenshina and the embarrassment it brings to Zambia? Fools like you should not be allowed to mislead people. Lenshina remains one of the most respected icons in African history of the emancipation of women! The foolishness that characterize your androcentric analysis betrays human reason.
#49 & #50 Your analysis is very good and indeed very educative. Thumbs up to you.
Those MMD cadres blaming The Post have no point for doing so and the so called senior citizen is really an empty tin who reasons like a kindergarten kid. Nangu ni bootlicking yachilamo.
I endorse Mr Siulapwa on this mature and deeply thought out analysis. It hits the head with precision. Change what change when reformists have united, stabilized, empowered and ushered in a culture of ownership? Failed opposition has a battle at hand.
50# All One Strong and Free
Have you lost your mind for you to say? : % Lenshina remains one of the most respected icons in African history of the emancipation of women! %
Just like Adamson Mushala, Alice Lenshina in modern day times would be called a Terrorist. My Grandmother perished because of Lemshina in Chinsali, Northern Province.
Shame on you
There is a doctrine in Law that says: ‘Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.’ many modern lawyers may not recognise the Latin but will use this doctrine in court ad infinitum. It is what American lawyers on TV are head to say, ‘It goes to character, Your Honour.’ The past that determines how a person will behave in the present and the future. The Law does admit of reformation but there must be certain provisos. If a man cheated in a secondary school examination at 17, that is not a problem compared to one who swore an affidavit to alsify his age from 22 to 18! A teacher who lies to his Head Teacher commits a lesser offence than a Minister who lies to Parliament. Once wrong, especially under oath, always wrong!
SIULAPWA, WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS JUST A HEAP OF RUBBISH.MOST OF US ARE FOR SATA AND FOR SATA ALONE. JUST WAIT AND SEE THE RESULTS IN OCTOBER SO UNTIL THEN JUST COOL DOWN MY FRIEND.
This yr you shall all know how RB turned STATE HOUSE into a CASINO.
Dola and crew received by more stone throwers and burnin tyres in mpika
A man swears at his wedding, ‘Forgetting all others, I will cling only to you.’ That is an oath which holds as much force as an oath of political office, NAY MORE force, because it is made in the ‘presence of these gathered and before God Almighty!’ If such a man now wants to run for the highest office of the land, how can we trust him to keep his oath if he has been unfaithful to his wife and gone on to sire children outside wedlock? Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus!
And what are the alternatives Mr. Author? UPND is years from maturing, so what is left? Are you suggesting people should stick with the same “bloodsuckers” (MMD) who have sucked this Country dry?
By the way, can the author mention one, just one, Cabinet Minister in Rupih Banda’s administration who is a total opposite of what he has said about Sata? If not, shouldn’t that tell him something about how most African governments operate! To blame Sata for Chiluba’s blanders is like blaming a bus conductor for an accident caused by the driver’s negligence. Just because the bus conductor is part of the crew does not make him responsible for the driver’s mishaps. Chiluba was the President and he, and him alone, should pay for his sins. Mr. Mpombo’s situation says a lot, doesn’t it?
Sulapwa well said dear, this is the same Mulongoti with his close friend late Tentamashimba (MHSRIP) accused many times in Zambian politics. The same Sata who was for 3rd Term in Chiluba government, Minister Without Portifolio and key advisor to Chiluba in whose term Zambia only managed to build a fly-over bridge at Manda Hill. Nothing in him and his friends has changed to deceive Zambians that he is better today than yesterday, overlooking the saying that old people find it difficult to learn new tricks. If there is need for change in Zambia then it should be systems change not necessarily having the Mulongoti, Sata and Mpombo replace RB.
By the way, Zambians would do well to realize that the Rupiah Banda accused by opponents today has made tremendous achievements envied by many countries. He has managed to continue where Mwanawasa left and grow our economy with impressive macroeconomic stability. Give him one full term of his own and if he messes it up then you can talk about change. Now that Sata, Mpombo and Mulongoti are close friends, Zambia should expect the same management style like in Chiluba times and be ready for the worst change that ka Catholic Priest is preaching about.
rupiah hasnt done any good apart from amassing so much wealth and enhencing corruption in the country. we want Sata who will cage rupiah and others for corruption.
Siulapwa,you have laboured to give information but your analysis is so flawed because you have only analysed one person,how about other players
The truth really hurts. for those that are demanding a balanced article on all candidates, i believe we have read how Daimone has in the past trashed RB. his is like a book with so many chapters and let us take this as one of the so many chapters. thE worst thing to happen indeed is to allow MCS to rule. there has never been a day when i have herard MCS artiCulate issues but only insults and innuendos, suing zambians that are reminding him what the Post wrong abt him. he is simply intolerant to criticism. there is no way MCS can be distanced from FTJs misrule when infact he was more powerful than vice presidents! FTJs fear of making sata veep was that other tribes would complain. the post has simply backed the wrong candidate and this they know. they as a paper have lost credibility
Why do we fear Change. We did not make a mistake by voting out KK and UNIP. The mistake we made was to keep and allow MMD to manipulate the constituition. We need Change and continue making changes to the government.
@49
All One Strong and Free:
Read the article above ten times and
deal with the well articulated issues raised. HH was not a minister or powerful government figure in the MMD govt of Chiluba. He was just a young employee of an international accounting firm that was hired to carry out work on behalf of Sata and Chiluba. He had no influence whatsoever on the the Chiluba/Sata govt. Sata on the other hand was Chiluba’s principle adviser and trusted confidant who had access to FTJ and had a lot of influence on what he did. Sata was also one of the principle defenders of Chiluba when he was being procecuted for plunder until 2008 when Levy died and FTJ opted to support RB. Aren’t you people be ashamed of hypocisy please!!
What is the problem with mmd? instilling fear in voters not to vote for sata will not work. he is jst attracting more sympathy votes. if sata commited all those mistakes u are saying while in govt then he has the xperience to do much more better. he was in govt and has bn with us the pipo as an opposition leader for 10 years seeing mistakes commited by govt, injustices of govt. so he is better placed to offer change than the boys in diapers.
The author is mixing up facts or he doesn’t know what he is talking about. Is he insinuating that we should have kept KK? If KK had stayed, would the things have become better? Zambians know that the economy had collapsed. Vigilantes were beating up people. KK himself had become a dictator. Innocent people were being tortured, people like Chame Chakomboka, Brig. Miyanda and many others. Should we keep the MMD because Sata was part of them? Not at all. We are talking about a government that is corrupt, has failed people and does not care for the common people.
This is the most hopeless article to appear on LT. The author does not have anything to counter the growth of PF and its leader, but ask silly questions about where Sata was when Chiluba ran amok with corruption. What he does not ask is why has Sata not been ensnared when FTJ and his gang have all been convicted. Probably if there was corruption, he should ask why RB is now in the forefront of protecting the same convicted criminals. The author must ask himself, who is paying him to decampaign Sata. Talk of corruption! Let us ask the same about RB.
Where was RB when his bedmate was a Ghost Worker in the MoE?
Where was RB Zamtel was being sold on a whistle?
Where was RB when he, himself was forcing MoD to arms to benefit his son?
Where was RB when he coined the term – Wako ni Wako?
Where was RB when they shut Indeni and his son’s contacts in Kenya contracted to supply fuel?
Where was RB when a man (Tentamashimba) with family and children was putting RB’s family on his “will”?
Where was RB when a President from one of the poorest countries became the most travelled President (RB) in the history?
Where was RB when they spent Billions on Mobile Hospitals even when 99% of medical personnel rejected the scandal?
Where was RB when his Press Secretary scrupulously bought land next to RB’s worthy billions?
Where was RB when the foreign mine companies stopped paying their dues and boast about it?
Where was RB when ZNCB was being given away? Where is the money?
Where was RB when his Ministers and police started shooting innocent Zambians?
You cant be eatin same relish for 20 yrs this time we want BONDWE no matter how awfull.
The article contravenes the Zambian constitution that allows for change every 5 years. MMD have abused their stay for 20 years, soon to challenge UNIP’s reign. We need serious review every 5 years to inject dynamism.
# 69 – Kalos2121:
RB was in his challenger jet across the Indian Ocean to China.
#49 I agree with you. Advice to all who are talking about who they are voting for. I realize most talking about voting do not even have voters cards and yet they make so much noise of who they are going to vote for on LT.
49 has a point. Mwanawasa was condemned just after the elections. He was given a chance and he proved all of us wrong. RB has been given a chance and he has messed up. HH talks well and analyze issue intelligently. The Question is, Does he have the numbers? SATA- We know him to an extent, how firm he can be when it comes to discipline. There is so much we don’t know about him as he has never been president before. As a registered voter, I will give my vote to him, and allow him to prove himself just like we allowed levy to prove himself. The bible says Judge not.
leemyvidao on November 10, 2010 @TheDRock456 I agree. Once again a wind turbine blowing in the wind with no real world video of data, installation, ect. Who has one of these? Please show us production. I appreciate the idea but we need more informaton then a video of it spining. See my vids. I install wind and solar. I show the units working in the real world. If you have a great idea a device and are trying to sell it would’nt you want to show all aspects of how it works in the real world? WTF
As for Mr Siulapwa, i would like you to also talk about HH and RB and give an alternative.
In one of his in fact very gullible questions, Siulapwa asks; Where was he when a law was being introduced in Parliament by then Minister of Legal Affairs Roger Chongwe to deny former UNIP leaders like Grey Zulu their dues thereby effectively rendering them destitute?
What this actual gullible MMD/UNIP cadre Siulapwa is saying is that MMD cadres must be paid by government. Siulapwa cannot delink the party from the government. Grey Zulu was Secretary General of UNIP, not the Cabinet. I would have done the same. Not pay Grey Zulu pension from government coffers. This statement/question from Siulapwa shows how dull he is, how he does not know what he is discussing. In essence, he is saying that Government must Mr Sata, Chitala, Katele pensions since they were Secretaries of ruling MMD.
meant, must pay Mr Sata, Chitala, Katele ….
This article is very sensible. Any rational Zambian citizen should ask himself/herself such questions before casting a vote for the likes of Sata. I really fear for my beautiful country Zambia, how bad things will be when Chilufya is voted into power. It will be lies after lies. Things wont be good and it gives me a very bitter and sad feeling. Zambians be wise, analyse your leaders intelligently. Dont let the journalists at Bwinjimfumu think for you, see for you, decide for you. GOD HAVE MERCY ON ZAMBIA AND PROTECT US FROM THE DEVILS.
Which devils? The ones in government right now? Why do you think there’s so much division in the country right now? It seems like the devil in office is not wanted by people but he wants to cling to power. It seems this very devil has very few support. What lies have Sata lied to you? Mention just three.
Ba Kalos 2121 muli mbuli. Where were you when all these things were happening.Why didnt you intervene through police or ACC? You like hearsay syndrome. Sorry na ambamotu, mukanwa mukikopo.
I thought ba MMD you don’t insult people. What happened ba Mwisho? You forgot that you are not ba Kaponya you are the “educated bunch”. Facts bwana. Us we deal with facts. Not rambling like you spend time insulting Mr Sata. Put it on the table. We pick brains, not attacking people who have facts. That is cheap. So, make a choice. You wonna be cheap or be knuckle head or a pea brain?
The writer of this article is mad.
PEOPLE WHY IS THIS GVT SCARED OF CHANGE? LETS VOTE MMD OUT AND SEE WHATS BEHIND THIS FEAR….REMEMBER, THANDIWE WAS ONCE A GHOST WORKER. VOTE PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
People fear change when they are not prepared to adapt to the expected enviroment
I am afraid this name suilwapa is become synonymous with insanity and total madness.
Actully the author of this article is generous in his criticism of Sata because their is much more evil associated with Sata. Most of it will come out in the Chanda Chimba III publications. Even Sata himself is now panicking because he knows the weekly newspaper will reach the compounds and remote villages were voters who don’t have TV’s will read them. Sata will not succeed in burying the truth about his past and all you PF blind loyalist supporting him won’t be able to hide behind the usual ‘why does MMD hate Sata’ nosense anymore. You can scream your lungs out about you continuing to vote for him(we know you have been voting for him anyway) but the most important thing is most undecided voters will be reminded of his past and persuaded to vote against him.
I will not vote for Sata. Want reasons? 1. He demoslished Kanyama with a few months of MMD coming to power in 1991. A baby was crushed to death in that fiasco. 2. He took pangas to Chawama and hacked people there just for losing an election to Samukonga. I dread to think what he would do as head of state. 3. He took 2bn parliamentary money and flew it in a helicopter to an MMD convention in Kabwe. 4. He is intolerant to divergent views. his abductions and beatings of his supporters for which his henchmen have been jailed and the hiring of thugs to attack Siliya in Northern Province is proof enough. Add to that what happened in Mufulira and the fact he has never held an internal election in PF to legitimise his hold to power.
There are three change options likely to take place this year: Real change(HH), No change(RB) or Reverse change(Sata). It’s logical for a people to demand for real change otherwise they are better off with no change. The alternative is madness, so think before you vote!
5. He master minded the expulsion of prominent MMD members against the infamous third term. Chiluba might have been crooked but was not dull. His eyes were wide opened by the calousness of the cobra. 6. Super Ken warned us never to give him the presidency. Councelor or MP yes, but not the presidency. Chiluba sidelined him for for Mwanawasa, probably his wisest decision in the whole of his 10 years rule.
7. He is corrupt. LPM resigned because of his corruption. add to that Merzaf, Medical Stores. 8. He wanted to abolish the litungaship and the Mpezeniship. He is currently at loggerheads with the Chitimukulu. What a leader. 9. he called the people of NWP nyamazais. Using such a deaming language from someone who wants to lead a nation. He lacks diplomacy or decency
This was a well worded document, It is up to you zambians to see whom you want to lead the nation. When you choose a driver to drive the nation to prosperity, you must see that he has a clear record, personality, none smoker, none drinker, married to one wife, s/he has a vebrating brain. I am in the 40s like #37 who saw and know these people eying for to job.. Vote wisely
10. I am a Christian and I beleive leadership comes from God. God chose LPM and RB over Sata even when these two at the time were not as active in our politics as he had been. Actually we beleive that one was waken from sleep and the other was recalled from his farm to come and lead Zambia while Sata was in the political field flexing his muscles.
11. To this list i have not added his foul language, his vindictiveness, his support for homosexuality etc. Zambians are warry of this serpent lover with five failed marriages. I am 101% certain as I was in 2006 and 2008 that they will never entrust him with the leadership of our beloved country. Those trying to cloth Sata with change – good change that is – are lunatics to say the least. They will not fool us. full stop.
#9, spot on. I agree 100% with you.
Zambia needs fundamental change, not just changing individuals but leaving the system intact. We can change the individuals as many times as we want but if the system remains the same, we will keep facing the same problems. Currently, political leadership is too ceremonial in nature. We need a system that is more managerial in nature. In ceremonial leadership, too much emphasis is placed on the powers and privileges of leaders than on their performance. Politics in Zambia has become lucrative because of the power and privileges that come with political positions. As long as accountability and performance are not attached to political positions, we will keep crying for change which will never come.
EXECELLENT,OBSERVATION.FACTS ARE FACTS.WHAT CHANGE INDEED IF THE FACE OF ALL POLITICAL PARTIES ARE THOSE WHO BROUGHT DOWN STATE COMPANIES TO NOTHING AS TECHNOCRATS AND MANAGING DIRECTORS AND THEN COME INTO POLITICS AND GRZ AND FAILED AS STILL AND THEN HAVE BEEN RUNING FROM ONE OPOSITION TO ANOTHER AND THE INTO GOVERNMENT. THE OLD POLITICIANS ARE INSULTING OUT INTELLIGENCE.IF THESE GUYS WHERE MOTORCAR AM SURE THERE COULD HAVE REACHED SRAP VALUE LEVEL. WHO CAN BUY A NEW CAR AND BUY A SRAP SPARE PART AND THINK HE CAN ACHIEVE ANY DEGREE OF ACHIEVEMENT.LET THE PEOPLE PRESENT THEIR OWN LEADERS TO POLITICAL PARTIES NOT THE OTHER WAY WHERE POLITICAL PARTIES DICTATE ANY PERSON TO THE PEOPLE.POLITICAL DICTATORSHIP HAS KILLED DEVELOPMNT. HENCE THE MAFIA WAY OF POLITICS.
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. Sata will never change. He cheated on his beautiful and intelligent wife TWICE! How did his first wife in colonial days die? He was sneaking in and out of UTH doctors’ residence when he was still married to Chilufya’s mother. He is the man who introduced the term ‘parallel structures’ when he hounded all potential successors to Chiluba out of MMD thinking that he will be the ‘sweet boy’ to be annointed successor. To clean up Mr Sata, we need a lot of Jik!
WE WANT REAL CHANGE AND ITS IN HH PERIOD. ALL RECYCLED POLITICIANS WILL BE RETIRED THIS YEAR. THE BEAUTY ABOUT THIS YEAR ELECTIONS IS THAT WE HACE A CLUB OF THIEVES AND RECYCLED POLITICIANS IN PF, THEN THE MMD WHO HAVE FAILED TO DELIVER AND ON THE OTHER HAND A VIBRANT GOOD TEAM IN UPND/HH PROMISING A BRIGHT FUTURE ZAMBIA. I ASK YOU BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO PUT YOUR VOTE ON REAL CHANGE. WE ALL WANT ZAMBIA TO DEVELOP.
I agree. HH is the only politician who represents real change.
I totally disagree that plunder is the number one reason that Zambians are experiencing poverty. Poverty is a function of global economic imbalances. Zambia now has the largest copper mine in Africa, DRC has the largest deposits of Cobalt, but why are there no metal exchanges in Africa or commodity brokers? This is the reason Sata and the Post must never be allowed to use plunder as a way of getting into state house. If PF is interested in governing, let them build a credible economic plan that will counter that of the MMD, and so far PF’s economic plans are murky. No more lies of 1991 and MMD is coming back strong.
HH and Chipimo represent the future.
Which propaganda? Sata is out, please for once can our country go into the right direction. No Vote for to be wasted on sata. Let his clansman vote for him
N.3 & 4 Staunch lozi. keep your trialistic views to your self. No-one is interest in such ‘divisive mantras’. Every zambian I believe is proud of and loyal to their roots, but there is no point in trumpeting such from roof tops and mountain tips. Zambia is a unit, fully intertwined across regions and tribes, so please save the future generations from your ‘noise’.
Well reasoned article and spot on. People, be afraid. Very afraid. Why are some of you so keen to recycle the same old dogs over and over again and yet claim CHANGE. What change indeed. It seems to me that the Zambian “townies” can be quite myopic and one hopes that the peasant farmers will come to the rescue again. We have lots of bright talented young people in Zambia. Let us all work hard, use our brains, to modernise the country, grow the economy rather than recycle Mr Sata and his ilk. Come on all we can do better. As for the alternative that is a toughie. My suggestion is simply this. Give this Government another chance to continue this economic trajectory.
A day is a long time in politics that is the game RB is playing. He is waiting to announce the the elections date hoping that something will happen to change the political spectrum of the country then he will carry on til death sic!
As someone said, the villagers will save us again. This is true, because most urban areas are full of lazy people who want free things. No wonder they like the idea of money in their pockets not knowing what it takes to have it. Work hard maybe you will stop complaining any how. Its good to say there is unemployment but the real problem currently is empowerment of the youth. HH has a programme well outlined for you. MMD has a programme but because of corruption, they have failed to implement some important aspects. PF has no programme and if ushered in, the country will go on auto pilot and when you complain, you will get bitten by COBRA himself. His temper will hinder you from questioning his leadership style. Mark my words
The post wrote the article in 2006. They defined what Sata is and will always be. If you want change, honestly HH represents that change.Sata is a tired lion, who cant hunt anymore.
For once lets be realistic with issues, we need change and only HH represents that change.
Most of you pf guys are hiding behind experience, which I think is not the a factor.
In any case when Sata was a minister, govt used to consult HH on economic issues. Why consult HH when the experienced Satas were in that govt? And what would anyone consult Sata on anyway? No grade fours at State house!!!!!
Those of you claiming that the article has not given options for leadership are an embarrassment to Zambia. Havent you heard of HH,Milupi, or even Chipimo. You have chosen to be deaf and blind as you follow Fred Membe’s candidate. Please do away with these recycled white elephants and bring in dynamism in the country. Shame on all those claiming there is no choice. Zambia has over 13 million citizens for your own information you semi iliterates.
Hey, they want toride on Sata’s percived popularity, push him into state house as they re-organise themselves, and they think they can push him out when they are ready. Poor planning!!! No one can ever uproot Sata once he has the instruments of power, let alone death. The man would even suspend the constitution for survivor.Sata cant change and is not fit to be head of state, period!!!!!!!! Sorry pf, Sata represents no change at all, stop chanting change slogans coz your man is sick and too old, a dimwit and not capable of leading this country out of economic bondage. We tried it with a “call boy” and we all saw the results,how do we again put a “Kaponya” in state house? Come on guys, change can only come with the likes of HH, Milupi, Chipimo and others.
No. 1, you are right. they can do any thing but the fact is that we the pipo of zambia will vote for the cobra.
One thing i wounder about Mr.Sata is why wasn’t he choosen by Kaunda as a prime minister?or by Chiluba as a Vice president?So it’s wise for Zambians to ask these two leaders K.K and FTJ Why this outspoken man was not not choosen by them to be the second in command.
History has it K.K choose Nalumino mundia,malimba masheke,kebby musokotwane but never
picked on Sata during his era.Then FTJ choose Levy,Gen Miyanda&late Gen Tembo & Kavindele still never choose Sata.More over since forming Pf no convention has been held.These things make me wounder????
# 102 No Fly Zone. You are right my brother, people are just resistant to change, they would rather stick to the old tools, whose out put is always low. Lets join hands and campaign for a credible leader. All blogers who are for real change, shall we please see to it that this country is redeemed from the current mediocrity.
If insults could generate wealth then a lot of Zambians would be rich. We need to learn from countries such as China, Brazil, Singapore e.t.c. that real change will only come about when we are empowered economically. Let individuals use their talents to create wealth and then and only then are we going to see real and not perceived benefits. Actions like those depicted above spark of witchcraft. Stop fooling yourselves and putting your trust in individuals.
It is clear that Sata’s supporters will continue SUPPORTING HIM againist any sense of reasoning. Forget national interest .There is something quite personal in it for them. THEY ARE PROBABLY EITHER FROM HIS TRIBE OR HIS FAMILY. I am not from either of these 2 groups. And from what I have come to know about this man it is a no vote from me.
Shi Lulu or whatever, what happened to your brains? Maybe you are Rupiya Banda posing as a blogger! Anyway, you can keep your vote since it means nothing. Many Zambians are retiring Banda this year! Here in Mansa, we are voting for Sata
HE WHO GOES TO EQUITY MUST HAVE CLEAN HANDS. IF A CHILD WASHES HIS HANDS CLEAN, HE SURELY EAT WITH KINGS ON THE KING,S TABLE. IF YOU ASPARE FOR GREAT OFFICES MAKE SURE YOU LIVE A CLEAN LIFE, SO SHOULD BE OUR POLITICIANS
IT IS HIGH TIME WE VOTED FOR BOOBS
llnnicogoegro on May 15, 2011 At the end of the day if collections is even car repos, home foreclosures are just as evil. Mr. Ramseys use cases of rogue non-compliant collections that should land anyone in prison. In summary his speil is a load of crap from 09. Collection agencies were the wild west back in the day but have cleaned up or at least sued into oblivion. These days most agencies are super compliant. And all the rogue collectors left, because they just don’t make as much money anymore.
I believe everything composed made a lot of sense.
But, what about this? suppose you were to write a killer title?
I ain’t saying your content is not solid, however suppose you added a post title that makes people desire more?
I mean Zambia : Change: What Kind of Change? is kinda vanilla.
You ought to glance at Yahoo’s home page and watch how they write news headlines to grab viewers interested.
You might add a related video or a related pic or two to grab people interested about everything’ve got to say.
In my opinion, it might make your website a little livelier.
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