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ZAF and Corruption

Time Posted: March 13, 2012 4:15 pm

I am writing in connection with the recently released list for the so called qualified candidates for ZAF training.What hurts the more is that some of the people who have made the final list never attended any of the interviews which the Air Force conducted from May last year.

My question is how shall we end this corruption?

I understand that the Air Commander just got into office not long ago and yet the corruption has again resurfaced in the Force.We were celebrating Youth day this week and we expect government to help us as youths who have the right qualifications to get into certain jobs or is the Air Force now
only for Majors,Generals and their families?

I am not talking from with out because at one time I was a victim of the said corruption and now I know of someone who never went for these interviews and he has appeared in the final list.Where are we going as a country?

Who shall we run to for help so we can end this corruption especially in the Armed forces?

We need your help so that only the right people are given the jobs they qualify for not what is happening in our country.

Regards,

Youth

56 Comments

  1. vote
    flag kci says: kci
    March 13, 2012 at 4:23 pm |

    So you are complaining because you did not make? If ZAF does not want to scrutinise people why waste time and just pick on first come first saved basis. How do you tell the person picked never attended interviews and are less qualified than you are? May be they are taller than you because height is part of qualification.
    I understand corruption is in every institution especially government but this sounds like every failure I know. Drogba blamed the penalty spot for failing to score.

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      flag Sims says: Sims
      March 14, 2012 at 10:46 am |

      KCI,
      when someone complains it does not mean they do not have the Qualification but that they have and its unfair to see your position taken by some person who never bothered to go and stand for hours on some que

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      flag Smoke says: Smoke
      March 16, 2012 at 2:49 pm |

      Boot licker.U r one of the useless zambians who r up to no good.Very stupid indeed!

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    flag so wat says: so wat
    March 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm |

    But naufulwa iwewine ai, do you even have the right qualifications? besides you need to be fit mwana. Just give bakateka time to swipe out corruption and stop mumurring at Pf. Grow up.

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    flag Mulenga says: Mulenga
    March 13, 2012 at 4:29 pm |

    There is so much corruption in job recruitment in Zambia.One wonders why they bother at all to advertise Jobs that are going to their relatives anyway.You will find people hiding job adverts or scholarship offers and only release them a few days before the deadline for submissions.When will the Youth of Zambia get what is deservedly theirs

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    flag yaba says: yaba
    March 13, 2012 at 4:29 pm |

    Corruption is everywhere in Zambia. Like I stated on another blog yesterday, I posed a question to people out there. Has anyone ever seen an advert by ZNBC seeking to recruit News Casters, Continuity announcers, how come we’re seeing new beautiful girls on ZNBC and yet no job ads are posted in media? Has anyone ever seen job ads for immigration or Office of President (OP)? Recruitment exercise for public offices is full of corruption

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      flag Principle says: Principle
      March 13, 2012 at 6:00 pm |

      Yaba kwena what u ve talked abt is important. I ve never seen such and both the govt and znbc shud explain to the public how they recruit. I wil write Muvi to consider this subject on special assignment

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      flag Chibesa says: Chibesa
      March 13, 2012 at 6:22 pm |

      Ba Yaba,OP does advertise except they do not state explicitly that they are OP.

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      flag mwanawakwitu says: mwanawakwitu
      March 13, 2012 at 8:45 pm |

      OP should be done secrectly if you know what I mean. Not ever rose or paul should work there.

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      flag KiletoT says: KiletoT
      March 14, 2012 at 9:16 am |

      ZNBC advertises through the TV especially news time, take keen interest you will hear their adverts, I think through the radio also but rarely through print media.

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    flag Blue Blood says: Blue Blood
    March 13, 2012 at 4:33 pm |

    Go to the ACC and report. Or to the Minister of Defence. You can also report to the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. Is corruption that bad in Zambia?

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  6. vote
    flag Mashimba says: Mashimba
    March 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm |

    Its Don’t Kubeba. Next time don’t go for interview and you will be selected. 

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    flag Bull dozer says: Bull dozer
    March 13, 2012 at 4:38 pm |

    Hey complaining man/lady, just send the details of that person to the ZAF commander and copy the Minister and PS-Defence if you are pretty sure the person in question did not attend interviews. I can assure you the chap will be investigated and at o ce dismissed. We need to fight corruption as citizens do not just wait for Law enforcement agencies!!!

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      flag mwanawakwitu says: mwanawakwitu
      March 13, 2012 at 8:50 pm |

      OFFICE of the president, seriously you think any Government, even perfect Heaven appoints any Angel to the Heavenly Court? You earn that right. Shaking my head.

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    flag pistol says: pistol
    March 13, 2012 at 4:42 pm |

    ZAF is corrupt 100 %.. i known what i am talking about

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      flag Sims says: Sims
      March 14, 2012 at 10:52 am |

      I agree with Pistol coz one colonel expressed shock at what happened

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    flag Melody ndaifulila says: Melody ndaifulila
    March 13, 2012 at 4:45 pm |

    I once attended this thing in 2004. my man number is 722. i will go see who is using this number. we were told to wait for the names in the paper and what happened is exactly wht this person is complaining. Advise to this person is go to ACC and report the said person if you have evidence and when they try to sit on it go see George Chella at State House. We gat to get rid of these useless happenings.

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  10. vote
    flag Maxwell says: Maxwell
    March 13, 2012 at 4:46 pm |

    @ Yaba, Office of President is a highly sensitive department, they don’t need to advertise publicly they employ from within the civil service and the security wings.  

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    flag Lundazi Dweller says: Lundazi Dweller
    March 13, 2012 at 4:47 pm |

    Can you please mention the “O” level grades and other qualifications of a person who went for interviews and was not selected Vs one who you “think” never went but was selected. Its very important to have tangible evidence when you make an accusation and you wish to build a case against someone. Most of the times its found out that allegations are made because people had half baked info about something. Though your claim can also be true. Maybe those that were not on the list are cadres!!! Iam sure you heard or read the presidents’ speech.

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  12. vote
    flag JEWS says: JEWS
    March 13, 2012 at 4:49 pm |

    Sp why cry over spilt milk,? Did u participate in 800, or 400 mtrs? if so wat position where u? Ulubilo a certificate yaku ZAF, naku Army. Ngamuli bama 6 points go to UNZA or CBU. period

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    flag Sharp Shooter says: Sharp Shooter
    March 13, 2012 at 4:53 pm |

    My man or woman.I live with someone who is a son to some high raking ZANASE general and he often times tells me how employment in the armed forces is done.He said its purely family business and tribalism is endemic.He makes it very clear that once he graduates,he will be an officer cos of the family name and connections.Same goes for OP.

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    flag ha_tembo says: ha_tembo
    March 13, 2012 at 4:53 pm |

    Its called connections my friend. If you just sit, you will continue seeing things fly away. Corruption can never be reduced to 0%, sorry but that is how things go.

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    flag Jay Jay says: Jay Jay
    March 13, 2012 at 5:08 pm |

    The problem with our youth is they assume that if they have As on their certificates they automatically deserve any position…well guess what?? In some companies especially private ones recruiters follow their instincts rather than rely on polished CVs to tell me the truth about a candidate. I would rather employ a C+ student who shows passion and enthusiasm than a big headed arrogant A student who is going to lose me money.
      

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      flag mwanawakwitu says: mwanawakwitu
      March 13, 2012 at 8:54 pm |

      hahahahahahahahahahahaha that’s funny.

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    flag Mo taim says: Mo taim
    March 13, 2012 at 5:10 pm |

    Thats how it is pa Zed.Following routines went together with the colonial masters.Corruption is so widespread that it has become a normal thing pa Zed.

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  17. vote
    flag so wat says: so wat
    March 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm |

    WHo can prove corruption. So young man just shut up if you cant go to ACC rather than accuse innocent blood. ALA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  18. vote
    flag ZAMBIAN BORN GAY says: ZAMBIAN BORN GAY
    March 13, 2012 at 5:24 pm |

    Good morning

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  19. vote
    flag yupa says: yupa
    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |

    ******** banabambwa sulunyoko

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    flag Nthuli says: Nthuli
    March 13, 2012 at 5:51 pm |

    Sorry my young man just keep on trying , I am sure the time when you were voting last year you would have taken this consideration by now you would have not complained like this dochi kubeba is catching you up .

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  21. vote
    flag MPANGA YA SAPA says: MPANGA YA SAPA
    March 13, 2012 at 6:00 pm |

    Entry into any form of training is by being SELECTED, and NOT having met the necessary qualifications. Even the most qualified may be left out.

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  22. vote
    flag FT Capt Jonas Savimbi says: FT Capt Jonas Savimbi
    March 13, 2012 at 6:03 pm |

    What makes you think you are more qualified or more suited than the candidates on the final list for ZAF training? What do you bring to the table? How do you know who attended and who didn’t have you got a relation in there? Is your Dad a security guard at the gates who checks candidates in?
    Give us more details not sour grapes mwaiche iwe…. 

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      flag Sims says: Sims
      March 14, 2012 at 11:00 am |

      FT Capt or whatever you are called i wish i had yo contacts i wud have also like the complainant given you something to think about on the said matter

  23. vote
    flag Power Rule says: Power Rule
    March 13, 2012 at 6:09 pm |

    Dear youth, please get a life. You know nothing about ZAF recruitment process operates. To those who made the list congrats. You are the future leaders of our beloved Air Force. To those who think ZAF is corrupt hey look in your closets. 

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    flag mwila says: mwila
    March 13, 2012 at 6:15 pm |

    People this is too much with ZAF,my brother attended interviews Libongani s son was not on the list.I have seen the list with my brother,please who is going to stop this corruption in zambia,God help us.

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      flag Sims says: Sims
      March 14, 2012 at 11:02 am |

      Mwila some people here are talking from without yet some have proof like you and me

  25. vote
    flag Mboo muyunda says: Mboo muyunda
    March 13, 2012 at 6:18 pm |

    Get a life young man.There is no selection on merit these days.

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    flag too much...!! says: too much...!!
    March 13, 2012 at 6:34 pm |

    Its a pity to be Zambian….shame..!!

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    flag Zebb Mpinganjira says: Zebb Mpinganjira
    March 13, 2012 at 6:43 pm |

    Why dont you give the name of the suspected fraudstar to law enforcement agencies to follow up the case. What are you scared of, that is how we encourage this scourge.

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  28. vote
    flag Black People Bad Managers (BPBM) says: Black People Bad Managers (BPBM)
    March 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm |

    I think the minister (Shamenda) is right, the best
    would be
    giving all public servants 0% increment because
    most of them are lazy and unproductive. My
    advice is let PF employ the staunch supporters
    (cadres) for accelerated development. With the
    cadres in office Lusaka will have all traffic jams
    solved, all roads in rural areas will be tarred, all
    youths will be employed and all Zambians will
    be PF cadres in order to be employed and there
    will be no unemployment in Zambia. Then no
    one would pay tax and everything will be for
    free and finally people will have more money in
    their pockets.

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  29. vote
    flag Harold Muna says: Harold Muna
    March 13, 2012 at 7:09 pm |

    How can some of you bloggers simply respond in the likes of “get a life young man”, “Do you think you are more qualified?” What kind of attitude is that? He/she may be wrong or right, but if you are aware of what is the best procedure for his/her grievance, just advise nicely. Corruption in employment in Zambia is endemic, and some of you who are being hostile to the young person are the same people who are always drumming about ridding the country of this vice. How hypocritical!

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    1. vote
      flag GENERAL says: GENERAL
      March 14, 2012 at 8:47 am |

      iwe ni paZED pano uubomba mwibala alyamwibala wake up

  30. vote
    flag zemuntu says: zemuntu
    March 13, 2012 at 8:19 pm |

    U just failed interviews iwe cry baby,u think this kasite will help u imbecile

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  31. vote
    flag libongani says: libongani
    March 13, 2012 at 8:28 pm |

    my dear do you want my child to suffer when am still alive , sorry got to put him on the list because thats the way of like , put your self in my shoes.

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    flag LOOSER says: LOOSER
    March 13, 2012 at 8:29 pm |

    I am sure most of those candidates who were selected went through all the recruitment procedures, and passed, if you were good enough you should have been one of those brilliant ones. Why compare yourself to the one who was favoured?

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  33. vote
    flag libongani says: libongani
    March 13, 2012 at 8:31 pm |

    thats the way its goes pa zed, am in this higher position, believe me I cant just let my son go un employed, I have to use my infuential position love , to make sure my son gets employed against all ODDS mudala.

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  34. vote
    flag mwanawakwitu says: mwanawakwitu
    March 13, 2012 at 8:58 pm |

    Really some ***** here are supporting Corruption, really? Shake my head.

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  35. vote
    flag mwanawakwitu says: mwanawakwitu
    March 13, 2012 at 8:59 pm |

    Lets fight corruption, elect MIYANDA!

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  36. vote
    flag Bonzo says: Bonzo
    March 13, 2012 at 11:16 pm |

    It is not “What you know” or “Who you know”…… it is now “Who knows you”.

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  37. vote
    flag A Phiri ana bwe... says: A Phiri ana bwe...
    March 14, 2012 at 1:21 am |

    A few days ago it was a ‘Patriot’ today a ‘Youth’ – just a suggestion here but why does the editor not provide a profile of the person like age, gender, qualifications/ experience with no specifics and then put ‘name witheld’? Just so people can get a better idea and maybe also contact ZAF for their process and procedures and round up the issue with statements from relevant bodies/parties.

    Just a thought… You leave blanks and people will fill them in :) If the author does indeed exist then I side with those stating to push complaint to authorities and wish you luck in your pursuits. When one door closes another opens.

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  38. vote
    flag GENERAL says: GENERAL
    March 14, 2012 at 8:26 am |

    Look at yourself and examine yourself then you will know why you did not make it,dont just complain and waste your time on LT man

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  39. vote
    flag GENERAL says: GENERAL
    March 14, 2012 at 8:53 am |

    NipaZED pano uubomba mwibala-alyamwibalalyakwe wake-up or get connected

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    flag KANITUDILA says: KANITUDILA
    March 14, 2012 at 10:06 am |

    YOU ARE EVEN OK YOU WENT EVEN AS FAR AS LUSAKA INTERVIEWS,US WE WERE LEFT PA INTER -PROVINCIAL.ZAF SUCKS,WE DON’T EVEN HAVE AIR POWER IN ZAMBIA.YOU THINK THOSE BIG BERRY SOLDIERS CAN FIGHT A WAR,ZAMBIA ARMY ARE BETTER THAN ZAF,ZAF IS LIKE A PILOT SCHOOL WHERE YOU DO YOUR FLYING SCHOOL.I WOULD RATHER BE A COMMANDO THAN ZAF.

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  41. vote
    flag JP says: JP
    March 14, 2012 at 11:12 am |

    JOINING THE MILITARY IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS WHICH ARE OF COURSE VERY VITAL…..FITNESS MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.ARE YOU THE RIGHT HEIGHT AS WELL.LETS TRY TO SCRITINIZE OURSELVES SOMETIMES..NOT EVERYONE CAN MAKE IT.TRY FARMING ANYWAY.

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  42. vote
    flag ZamAirTalk says: ZamAirTalk
    March 14, 2012 at 4:25 pm |

    When I did my military service for almost three years I noticed exactly what the youth writer was referring to. As I tend to say, different faces and almost the same story! There is nothing ‘sensitive’ about Office of the President, that is what they want us to believe so that they maintain an aura of mystique, fear and potency and that works most of the time. I had friends in my childhood whose parents were in OP and they followed suit too. In one case four children followed their father into the shu shu shu business, which is paid for by the taxpayer; so who are they accountable to?

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  43. vote
    flag Umuntu mutwe says: Umuntu mutwe
    March 15, 2012 at 11:28 am |

    There is too much corruption in the zaf recruiting exercise. I personally reported the matter to the office of the investigator general. There is col kalunga in charge of this exercise, this man is zaf employer: all is relatives regardless of qualifications are officers & on overseas training. He sorts out high ranked officers & politicians by employing their relatives. They have their close relations as officers and the distance 1s as men. Which org has more bosses than workers, please can some cut this family airforce. There more officers than airmen. Acc move & check foryourselvs

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  44. vote
    flag Jack Daniels says: Jack Daniels
    March 15, 2012 at 6:10 pm |

    Why are you so keen to join them, when you will be flying old MiGs, the dodgy plane itself will kill you!! 

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