KK’s guidance on the Barotseland agreement is long overdue-HH
UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema addresses journalists after attending the meeting
United Party for National Development leader Hakainde Hichilema says first republican president Kenneth Kaunda’s call for genuine consultations on the Barotseland agreement is a good start. Mr. Hichilema says the advice by the first republican president is long overdue and should be the guidance to resolving the Barotseland agreement of 1964.
In an interview with QFM Radio this morning Mr. Hichilema has stated that it is now time for all stakeholders to engage in respectful dialogue. Mr Hichilema said that the opportunity has arrived where Zambians and the government can come up with solutions that will ensure that Zambia continues to enjoy peace.
He said that it is important that a solution is found to the issues surrounding the Barotseland agreement. Mr Hichilema has however called on all the parties involved to dialogue in a peaceful and meaningfully way.
Yesterday , in a press statement made available to the media by office of the First President chief of staff Godwin Mfula, first republican President Kenneth Kaunda said that the Barotseland impasse between Government and the Barotse Royal Establishment (BRE) and the Barotse National Council (BNC) required collective rational interaction and the wisdom of all Zambians.
Dr Kaunda said that he believed that Zambians had the capacity, will and rationale to achieve a harmonious and peaceful resolution of the matter. Dr Kaunda said there is also need for genuine consultations among all stakeholders to ensure peace and harmony in the country.
“There is imperative need for a purposeful and peaceful interaction with all the stakeholders relating to the question of the Barotseland Agreement of 1964,” Dr Kaunda’s statement reads.
Dr Kaunda has appealed for “deep reflection, understanding, magnanimity and cooperation” in keeping with the spirit that characterised the resolve and determination of the country’s founding leaders.
“Dr Kaunda feels that in the quest and resolution to achieve national unity, harmony and cohesion, the founding fathers exhibited a rare sense of nationalism and patriotism to the common cause for the attainment of our cherished goal of One Zambia, One Nation.
“Indeed as reflected in our national anthem, the forefathers were inspired by a deep sense of unity and patriotism to our land, hence one land and one nation was their cry,” the statement reads.
And United Party for National Development (UPND) President Hakainde Hichilema has called for meaningful dialogue between the BNC and BRE to find a lasting solution over the Barotse question.
The issue of Barotseland has been hotly debated following a resolution by the BNC last week that Western Province secedes from the rest of Zambia. BNC chairperson Ngambela Clement Sinyinda has since been quizzed by the police over the matter.
QFM
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Quench the fire KK.
Please people let ba KK enjoy his retirement peacefully. This great son of Africa has run his political race. Sata is the one who brought about this mess by promising to honour the agreement. The lesson for Sata is Dont Make Promises you cant Keep.
SO MANY PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, HONORING THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT MEAN CUTTING OFF THE COUNTRY.
after wainyela sinyinda azala, nomba ka hh is for dialogue. hh wanted the cessation but yaluka
Just one word from wise KK, all children stop crying Sinyinda and HH now drop the break away dream.
KK for Zambian President in 2016!
HH you are too young to comment on such matters. You have a long way to go considering you are under 5. You need to graduate first. We know the role you are playing in the back ground over this matter and a watching you.
ZAMBIA IS ONE, ALL TRIBES ARE EQUAL, THERE ARE NO SUCRED COWS. ALL PROVINCES SHUD BE TREATED EQUALLY,THOSE WHICH SIGNED AGREEMENTS AND THOSE WHICH DID NOT. CHACHACHA WAS FOT IN ALL PROVINCES, WE ALL WANTED INDEPENDENCE FROM THE WHITES. KK EDUCATE LOZIS.
@3,4,5,your are danderheads.EVEN IF SOMEONE IS TALKING SENSE ALL WHAT U SEE IS NOTHING.USE YOUR HEAD TO THINK MATES NOT YOUR LEGS.DISCUSS REAL ISSUES HERE .
AGREEMENTS CAN BE ORAL OR WRITTEN, CHILDREN OF THOSE WHO HAD WRITTEN AGREEMENTS WANT TO CAPITALISE ON THAT.AGREEMENTS WERE DONE IN ALL PROVINCES THATS WHY CHACHACHA WAS FOT BY ALL TO REMOVE THE COLONIAL MASTERS.
@AFCON PHIRI
Clearly you don’t have an agrement. That is why you now preach equality. Get used to a Free Barotseland. Don’t forget your passport next time you want to cross the Kafue River into Barotseland.
You mean cross the Kafue River into Kafue Province. Believe you mean, the Nkoyas are gonna get their Kafue Province.
Thank you father KK. your voice solves. Your wisdom guides, we pray for your life to leave longer. Its encouraging to hear you speak as if you were 45 whilst those around 45 talks like they were 97. As for ka under5, stay away coz we know you are behind this nosense. Count this as you down fall boy. Good luck coz people have started talking about how you sponored them hence ngambele u-turning on you scams.
#7 I can’t belabour your point. You are spot on. Its better for one to keep quite if they don’t have anything objective and forward thinking to add.
People need to be honest and respectful. HH has never advocated for cessation. He was urging Sata to honor the promise. Sata promised to restore the Agreement therefore it was his duty to honor what he promised or say sorry. HH is right we need honorable, honest and trustworthy dialogue over this matter. Africa is full of this nonsense like in Mali and it is usually brought about by people like most of you who cant reason but are carried away by the euphoria of the day. May be KK could of help, dont insult him. I know some of have PhD’s in Insultology. Think and reason. Well spoken Hakainde Hichilema
No.7 THE REPORTER
You are spot on.
kk,s gymnastics at work here. why didnt he dialogue with the lozis when he abrogated that agreement?he is just shifting the blame here.
You people that are asking others to keep quiet are the ones without brains. Think and say something that is yours. People know HH has been fueling these tribal wars and are expressing themselves while you guys cannot think.
HH always talks sense.
HH thot he could score points on Madala’s delayed response to the commision’s recomandantions on BRE. But Madala has suprised even his own cabinet by the mature and cool manner he has reacted to the provovations of the Mongu advocates for secession! Sata may be uneducated but he knows how to manage situations.
l wouldnt cross the road to listen to this toad
remember 4 fingers are pointning at u,so u are 4 times more than him.kekekekekekekkee
Please read the lips of HH when he first opened his mouth after the Mongu meeting. Compare his mouth with that of KK, MCS and Inonge. The young man has got a long way to learn.
The only solution to this agreement is to agree to cancel it as it is a stale document for now. Zambia has out grown this agreement many people from Barosteland has intermarried with all and sundry whose benefit will it be if implemented.
Under5, HH is a turn coat. We know him and he shall never be president of this republic. May be a councillor in his home town Monze.
Hahahahaha
HH is a very young and immature politician. Forget about him becoming presido of your lovely and wonderful country called Zambia. Alia Chipimo Jnr looks more mature than this leaf luff charattan of a person called HH.
no homo
Tongas men though educated, are the most cowards and useless persons i ever seen in my entire life. However, do not be mistaken, their women are among the sexiest ladies in the world.
You are a ****, and you were accidentally ********* to your mother.
If i knew that you will be like this, i would have not spent any single time with your mother.
Stupid and foolish ****
Donci kubebabbaaaaaaaaaaaaa……………….!!!
http://www.lusakatimes.com/2011/01/13/sata-admits-opposed-barotse-agreement/. Enough said!
Submission from Mbundas at the BNC
: BA64 is parent document to constitution of Zambia but Lozis suppress other tribes in Barotseland
However, Mbundas in Western Province have serious observations concerning their interaction with their Lozi brothers, as follows:
1) Unfair Treatment of Mbundas in Western Province and Need For Mutual Respect and Co-existence between Lozis and Mbundas.
Your Right Honorable, Mbundas in Western Province live in serious suppression and tribalistic scorn from their perceived Lozi brothers despite the historical background we alluded to in our preamble. It is surprising to note that certain groups of people are still made to believe that Mbundas are refugees who can be threatened with eviction back to Angola. This is as follows:
Lets have meaningful debate here nd avoid insults,ths is nt th sponsored site 4 insults. Dialogue is th way 2 go.
NGAMBELA SINYINDA,CAN YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID!WHEN DID YOU CONSULT BNC TO ISSUE THAT STATEMENT. I THOUGHT YOU YOU TALKED ON BEHALF OF BNC
BA HH, really people what do you sell in this man he has never won any grass wood elections noy even as a class monitor now he want to go with the wind because he can not belittle KK he knows that will be his final nail. Today he says this tomorrow he says the other like a yoyo.MCS is also a good man because HH crossed the line a long time ago.He should be taught a lesson because he funded the Baroste problems even slaughted cattle at the function.He MCS said the BA64 was real but HH using hersay goes to say something else.Has long as you are biter with PFs victory you won’t get any where hate is blinding you.
Well spoken Mr. President……..
I will not bring my dollars until you sort out each other you two countries
HH knows that when KK pokes his nose in this matter their will be trouble and that’s all he wants. Would HH advise likewise if this was a Tonga issue…the likes of KK are no angels to this matter, these guys have blood on their hands; what advise can he give, where was he all along when they needed him…who is going to listen to him now?
UNDER 5 keep quiet okay? The BA64 document is far much older than your small brain. You shall never rule Zambia period!!!!
KK has no legitimacy over the BA’64 now. The man is the one who abrogated the Agreement and caused this mess in the first place. He is an accessory to the ‘killing’ of the Agreement. What is he going to say; defend how why he abrogated the Agreement?
For those who never heard of Nalumino Mundia, he was a very intelligent and wise man, whose wisdom surpasses any (or even all combined) of the politicians alive today in Zambia. But KK screwed him up and a rumour has it he died in very unusual and suspicious circumstances. This was a man who was a national icon, who never cared about tribalism.
HH, You have beenn issuing statements on this issue on a daily basis, other politicians have only followed it with ken interest or issued one thoughtful stateent like Dr. Mutesa. As for you yesterday you were calling for apologies, other day you called for fulfillment of the restoration a spromised. In short, you have been funning the flames on the issue. It doesnt help you at all, it only exposes you lack of statesmanship and your opportunitic tendencies. Tat is what we mean we say YOU WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA, NEVER!!!
Well done HH,you are next no matter what !!! We need good policies when take over the governance of this country. I wish HH long life……………
#33, yes I wish him long life, as in long life milk. This guy has no brains and you know it. Unless u much duller than him, too bad
.HH is a very good example of how not to be a politician,he odesn t even know when to capitalise on issues.Flip flopping fro one angle to another,the other day he even went to fish out Sakwiba in another fake alliance over the Barotse,now he is on KK.this boy needs to wipe his nose before joining the high table.
HH, can never be presido. He is much of a coward to be a republican president. Tonga tribalists, please 4get. Yes, Andy was a presido material and not this so called Hikaivotela Huimwine-eka.Not even over Sata’s dead body, and not that of Alias Chpimo Jnr.
Ka HH you are too out of sync with reality, please please this matter is a national matter too complicated for your narrow little mind and your tribal party, just stick to protesting about realignment of Chirundi and other towns in Southern Province.
I agree with # 21, tonga chicks r sexy. Ive got me one, godamnn!!!!
K and Free Expression,dont bother about Watchdog.You ought to know by now that WD specialises in Under Five Political Pulications.I am actually doing my PHD thesis on Under Five POLITICS and this site is helping me a lot.
Kalu – April 3, 2012
13:10
The above comment is still being moderated on the Under 5 publication under the article DORA SILIYA OUT ON BAIL.The other comments posted as late as 14:41hrs are showing mostly because they support the under five’s agenda.
#31, you are a ****
The major problem this country is facing is them against us. This implies people just take position just because the idea or suggestion or proposed solution has not come from they camp then it is non starter. When a person submits tothe power that be it does not mean his position has change. In other words the cycle will come back to the same point at some time in future. PF did promise to resolve this issue but now they have used other means to resolve the issue.
#7 What is danderheads? I have never heard of such a word not even in Lexicon? Is it bemba-english or kaluchazi-english?
here we go again ,are u using your head mate in thinking???//oohhhhhh
Which Zambian can accede to the demands as contained in the so called BRE64 when everyone knows that BRE64 died with the cessesion of Lamba land, Luvale land, Kaonde land, Lunda land etc from BRE? The more educate Lewanika signed that document on behalf of everyone in other lands with copper in his mind. I dont think there would have been anything to bother anyone if it was not for copper in the Lamba land! MCS is already delivering on his promises to the people of Western Province at the expense of my Liverpool province.
HH was behind this nonsense.what he wanted is to rule three province (western,souther and North western and part of central).He is very selfish chap.I respect my fellow Tongas but HH is a wrong one.Hope Magande will be popular.I would rather vote for Magande than HH.He is into tribal politics and hatred against our cousins Bembas.He always insight Tongas and Lozis to preach hatred against Bembas.Why should a national leader do that?This man scares me coz he fuel cival war in Zambia.Most leaders and international communities know that.This is why he was not supported by USA and UK govt.He hates too much Bemba speaking people.We love each as Zambians and my friends are Lozis,Bembas,Tongas,lundas ect.My girlfriend is from southern.Why should HH preach tribalism?
why are u ZAMBIANS SO PETTY AND TRIBALISTIC??ALL OF YOU DONT EVEN SAY THIS TRIBE ALL THAT ALL OF YOU INFACT THOSE THAT SAY OTHERS ARE TRIBAL ARE THE WORST!!
The previous night my Tonga gelo friend was on my top doing me the acrobatic technics. She is very acrobatic and i fainted slightly.It was a after a thoroughly shower that i went home to rest.And i was almost discovered by my wife.Luckily, i cheated my wife that i did a hard job at work.
Hahahaha. Zambia the real africa. Lets explore.
Tonga chiks…? no…. no cmon guys umchini wami goes for Luvale, Lunda mama yami!!
Donci kubbeeebaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..!!! 2016 for PF ans MCS…………….!!
hh makes me lol
MCS and PF forever………………….!!! Come 2016……………….Sata up to 2021!!!!!!!!!! Under5 azalila…………….!
# mumbo 47 dont take us back to UNIP wamuyaya syndrome… kolwe iwe!!
HH change your nappies first..
I DONT LIKE PIPO WHO AR BLAMING HH ON THIS ISSUE CZ CLEARLY SATA SAID HE IS GOING TO RULE THIS COUNTRY WITH THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,,ONE OF THEM IS GODS DOES NOT ALLOW 2 LIE,,SO PEOPLE FROM WESTERN PROMISE AR WETING FOR THEIR PROMISE MR COBRA WHICH U PROMISED THEM AND WHY AR U QUITE MR SATA OVER THIS ISSUE OR U AR STILL SICK?HH IS THE MAN WHO IS SPEAKING 4 DE ZAMBIAN PIPO…2016 NI BA HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
What i see in the postings by some of the blogers is a high level of parrochial mindedness that cant analsyes things beyound the skin of their heads. I tend to wonder how HH would have influenced Sata to promise the Lozis that he would restore the agreement, i wonder how more experienced Chipimo is than HH considering that they both have never been class monitors and neither of them have ever held held a lower position than being president of the party they pretend to be leading. I see no way Tongas come into the story. I find these tribal remarks and bias against Tongas by some of these bloggers to be unfortunate. If they love Tonga women its because they are decent Unlike their women that are found in Bars prostituting, no wonder they make bad wives. Please, if you are tribal, do not bl
Moscow attacks on HH are uncalled for. Moscow should remain in Moscow and not comment if you do not like HH. What HH said is correct. Kaunda is the right person to get involved becuase he knows the reason behind the agreement. HH has never been fueling tribal politics. Under African culture, you cannot call somebody tribal unless you are tribalist yourself. Thieves always call other people thieves first. Whether people like it or not a Tonga will rule one day.
This is a matter that is beyond the comprehension of an amoeba size brain of HH. Please stay out of this issue
No.45
Dunderhead is a stupid person or low witted person.
thank for the help Zedian.# 45 are we together now??hope your head is now working
I smell a used napkin…………………………………..UNDER 5
@@Monze Why did yo HH come up with the same nosensical advice all these years? When did the boy HH realise that KK was wiser? Moscow is right 110%. HH was born a tribalist and will die a tribalist. Read and compare the comments from other oposition leaders on the same BRE nosense. The wiser oposition leaders like Magande and Maluti have chosen to keep quiet and wait for the head of state to provide guidance on the issue. Imagine the reaction if MCS was Mugabe?
Does HH really have anything credible to contribute to the political scene pa Zed or is he just finished? Seems, this man has no direction whatsoever. Just my opinion!!!!
this is a big lesson to all zambians in their diversity. do not make promises over things you least understand.do not go into public service on false prentence .lose elections for telling the truth>
A TONGA WILL ONE DAY RULE ZAMBIA,BUT NOT HH.
Asking whether HH has anything credible to offer to the country is like asking whether some in state house in still normal or not! He is of a better quality!
Number 23 thank you for the compliment but calling tongas cowards is an insult its not every tonga who is a coward.
Ngambela Sinyinda has a problem with the letters “di”. First he said he would “DIe” for secession now he is talking about “DIalogue”.
HH will never be president not because of his tribe but because he has no leadership qualities,simply put politics is beyond his comprehension,its a wrong field for him,he may be a billionaire maybe thats were his talent lies but president of Zambia,it can t.He has tried everything,alliances with almost all parties,after losing last he wanted to adopt Sata s political style,it couldn t work.He doesn t seem to have any agenda apart from being a cry baby.Somebody tell him to go back to were he came from.
So, Mr. HH, what took you so long to arrive at this conclusion? Shouldn’t you have been saying this all along instead of inciting? Now there is no more fuel for your ego in Barotseland, but to be seen to to be thinking you now mention KK.
most of those criticising HH are jeolousy that he talks more sense than the politician they support. Guys be honest and do not be subjective.
**==KK you are simply a dictator pretending to be the Father of the Nation its time you begin to put your own house in order. Yours children are all loosers! You have destroyed UNIP with your selfishness. You are a pretender. Go to hell!
I have a feeling most bloggers that are criticising HH, do not know the man at all. Its mostly on the basis of where he comes from and baseless accusations that he is tribalist – which is pathetic really. Respond objectively to his arguments, suggestions or policy statements. Try to learn what he stands for as a politician. You call him young, immature and inexperienced – what about some of the so-called experienced, what have they achieved for Zambia?
@74 harold Muna says:
TELL THEM.IF WE KEEP ON WITH THE SAME PIPO WHO DOESNT THINK,WE WILL NEVER DEVELOP IN ZAMBIA.WE WIL BE ALWAYS PARASITES
@KCI&Moscow
Its clear that you can never be peace makers. you claim to be angels but you post things that have no truth. Its ***** like you that are making the Lozis behave the way they are behaving. Start being sobre you ****** or forever shut up. I guess its even a worst of time to respond to you bcoz you must be kids that have not yet completed university education, if you have you must have been raised by a prostitute who no time to teach you manners.
number 23.;: try to talk about real issues affecting our country Zambia, no one is interested in your trible attacks.we are all zambians and we must respect all tribes.
.please grow up.
GO TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE; WHAT SATA SAID IN BOTSWANA, THERE IS A RECORDING OF THE MEETING
@77 9Mamba THANKS FOR LETTING US LISTEN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN BOTSWANA. LT & OTHER ZAMBIAN MEDIA, YOU ARE LIARS, Listen to the Speech, Nothing out of context the president said as it was WRITTEN ON LT, He was TELLING THE TRUTH, EVEN BAGGING For PROFESSIONAL ZAMBIANS TO GO BACK HOME. YOU TWEETS LEARN TO WRITE THE TRUTH.
WHAT THE PRESIDENT TOLD ZAMBIANS IS THE TRUTH. REFLECT AND THING ABOUT YOUR COUNTRY. NOW BUSY ENCOURAGING OUR LOZI BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO BREAK AWAY. BE PATRIOTIC. ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.
HHH (Hakasaka HH) is regressing down to under 1. He had an opportunity to show maturity when he held seccesssive media interviews but alas just spewed hatred for the PF. One thought that bitterness ends with time butthis is not the case with Kasaka.
HH you ar right. Keep it up. Those haters will be crushed/consumed by the hate they have. You have achieved so much. Most of them even eat you beef. They should just say thank you for feeding Zambia. Forget the HOMOs at the post and in NAREEP.
Sata
March 31, 2012 | Filed under:
Sata
THE Barotse Agreement is still valid and must be honoured, Michael Sata (left) has declared.
Commenting on Vice-President George Kunda’s meeting with the Litunga, the Ngambela and some senior Barotse Indunas in Limulunga on Tuesday, Sata said the Barotse Agreement was real.
“The Barotse Agreement is still a valid agreement,” Sata said. “How can you ignore an agreement that was signed, sealed and delivered almost 47 years ago?
I am in total agreement with what Mr. Hakainde Hichilema, has said in the above comment. This problem must be resolved now, while the people who were involved in participating in the Agreement are still alive. One thing I know for sure is that, this Barotseland Question, will never go away and it will never die. Let us resolve it now and move forward in developing our prosperous and peaceful country. The longer we leave it, the more entrenched the issues will be.
hate us bt wl ctn to prosper.i dt like this chi country which is **** of hatred am sure its fo d bembas only.lov tonga nd ma bible is wrtten in