Alliance for Better Zambia president Fr Frank Bwalya has charged that many Zambians are convinced that President Michael Sata needs deliverance, and has since offered his prayers.
In an open letter to President Sata obtained by QFM News, over the president’s recent comment on his parentage, Fr Bwalya says President Sata lives in a glass house regarding the issue of parentage and should therefore not throw stones.
Fr Bwalya has dared President Sata that he is mistaken if he thinks that he has no capacity to throw stones.
President Sata is alleged to have said among other things “Abana bamu figololo [ Referring to HH and Fr Bwalya], the names they adopted are from their mothers, so where are their fathers.”
Father Bwalya warned President Sata against dragging his parents, especially his mother in political issues that have nothing to do with them.
He added that President Sata’s comments will not change the way he feels about his parents, stating that he will always love and respect them, adding that should he decide to contest for the presidency in 2016, he will comply with the law regarding his parentage.
Fr Bwalya has further stated that he is only responsible for things he has done from the time he attained the age of reason, the time he learnt right and wrong.
He said he is not personally responsible for anything before that time.
[QFM]
Its unbecoming for a President to be telling ‘yo mama jokes’………What do the PF kaponyas say about this? I am yet to meet a Kaponya who would allow anyone to disrespect his mother….no matter how much money you pay him.
l partly agree with you -mothers are awesome they are always there for us. Having had said that l also feel that full disclosure is important for any one who aspires to high office.We must be allowed to question and find out everything about an individual seeking to lead us
Our Dear Mother’s are precious Queens, always and forever! Anyone who talks ill of some else’s mum is a moron!
Guys please stop calling the “president” a lunatic, he is old enough to be your father. His insults will not take him anywhere! As the saying goes, don’t argue with a fool or else people will not tell the difference” President Sata is a fool and we should leave it there!
Guys please stop calling the “president” a lunatic, he is old enough to be your father. His insults will not take him anywhere! As the saying goes, don’t argue with a *fool* or else people will not tell the difference” President Sata is a *fool* and we should leave it there!
@inbox
lunatic is a state of mind and not a insult
@inbox
lunatic is a state of mind not an insult,,, `bane bamu figololo` is more of an insulting statement than the word lunatic
And where are the women organizations when the head of state is making such sexist remarks? It’s so demeaning to Zambians for Sata to preside over this country as his personal farm where no one can hold him to account for all the garbage from his mouth…
It’s not becoming.
Sata chipuba, and surprised you expect anything other than ubungwa bweka bweka.
LOL – “yo mama” jokes. Funny!
Amano!
Amano kaaa… ya Sata takwata amano. And I don’t know what is uglier between his heart and his face. But natumpa Sata for Christ’s sake. Who would want to even insult his wife, with due respect his mother?
Even those born from Sata really regrets.
@NOSTRA-ANUS AND NDOBO,u a very primitive and backward characters. Anyone who aspires for public office must be scutinised to see if he has a questionable background or not. In the USA, what president sata was demanding of hyena hyena and bwalya is nothing compared to obama bush clinton reagan were subjected to. Now u little brats, petty morons for that matter u calling our president lunatic. Ndobo in your quest to ve hyena hyena president u ve started using yo u.m.u.s.u.l.a for thinking.
2.2 George,
Do you get head-aches after thinking?? You can’t even think of any better hero you may copy a name from? Why you change my name to your favorites, you love “anus”, you might be a PF. Stop sniffing on mine, I will kick on your mouth and you will look like Sata, look at that picture again. You better think twice… hoo sorry your headache.
@ NOSTRA-ANUS what makes you think george bush cannot be someone else’s hero just coz u chose some ancient stone aged guy as your hero? Pf or not, your thinking capacity is retarded.
True Fr Bwalya. I do not know my father, he probably run away. I have lived with that, and have achieved great things as an Engineer! Does the fact that my father run away mean anything to me? Hell no… These politicians need to get some basic education in life, a bit of common sense as well. They say damn hurtful things often times.. Sickening
you are right @Mech Engines,, but is `ran away` not `run away` even better ba li butuka… those engineering degrees must work,,,, do not be like us certificate and diploma holders….
@Ndobo.. Thanks for the correction, It can happen when you are upset with the madness going on. Thanks
You are not alone in those shoes and it is sad that this president decided to insult a lot of us in this way. He deserve no respect as a person.
@Ndobo, its not necessary to correct an engineer, its common that they forget to tighten all bolts.
But with all those achievements of engineering, why not try to search for your father? I just hope and pray that its not SATA. In-fact Mulenga Sata is also an engineer.
@nostadamus
Ati “But with all those achievements of engineering, why not try to search for your father? I just hope and pray that its not SATA. In-fact Mulenga Sata is also an engineer.“ kekekekekekeke
wambwela iwe wa chongo manje….. you dont that Sata is now threatening all noise making bloggers like you with dethroning from Lusaka times….
And regards to my latino mulamu.
Now, here’s something; how many of his own children is SATA insulting? You may wish to know that has so many ‘figololo’ children that he has even lost count of them. And with this senseless comment they are probably planning a protest march against him, watch the space…!
The truth hurts we know.Just bite it Father walya.
You are a true ass…
He is forgetting that he, himself Sata has countless bane bamu figololo (vigololo)..So the hurting truth must start with Sata tate wamu vigololo
@Saulosi, you need prayer. You cannot honestly if you are in your right senses see humour in what your foul mouthed old man said. Unless you had a choice in how and where you were conceived then you can maintain your response. Your comments are usually cases of blind and unwise loyalty.
dude, i have never seen a fanatical supporter of old ballie Sata than you. I do not think I would be wrong to assume you would die for him. No sarcasm here dude, just legitimate awe.
@Saulosi, ulimutumpile sana.
:poop:
Who? are you referring to Sata?
The presidency is a position of honour and respect. Sata needs to learn to uphold honour and respect. And he should lead in a more non partisan way.
That is expecting a lot from Sata. He isn’t a good leader and he will never be such though he is a good politician.
HE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT FOR A GOOD PORTION OF HIS POLITICAL CAREER. IF HE HASNT LEARNT NOW, THERE IS NO WAY ON EARTH HE IS GOING TO.
@lusaka sitizen, ikalafye naiwe kanshi baice imwe ubututu bwafunya kwisa imwe.
If its true that’s what Sata said, then I wonder if as a head of state he has a heart for the many street kids who most of them do not their fathers or mothers.
Also heart for his own countless bane bamu figololo (vigololo)… he is forgetting that he himself Sata has countless bane bamu figololo (vigololo)
@Ndobo- infact you have hit a nail on its head. Sata at some point treasured in vigololo because he has a child from Archbishop Mpundu’s sister, Christine Kaseba, from Mrs.Sata(presumably was his first wife and was a headteacher at Kamwala Secondary school) and off course from other women too numerous to mention.
It is indeed true Sata said those words at a public rally in Chipata, it was broadcasted live on ZNBC! Very said to be led by such a low thinking person.
i thought it was only nostra-anus and ndobo who were clowns, even u mr observer?!!
these are politics.. its so sad some of us have been called kaponyas not knowing the levels of education we have atuained it pains.
Melvin, your blogs speak for themselves. Usually kaponya quality, which tends to point at a lack of education.
My father died when the term we started paying boarding school. However, I have soldered on till now when i can fly to any country of my choice. My children doing well in schools university at tender age. So never insults parents.
That was below the belt from the presido, surely politics has to be better than this. If you live in a glasshouse,…….you undress in the dark!
& this man leads normal people!
Whoever saw the campaign being referred in the article is disappointed with the manner Sata carried himself. It is wrong for Sata to discuss HH and Frank Bwalya’s parents in that manner. It is a pity that people even stayed on to listen to the nonsense that Sata spoke. PF should be ashamed of themselves for having such a man as their leader, even FTJ a former bus driver never sunk that low. Sata’s behavior is very disappointing to say the least. It is a pity many other politicians are falling in the same kinda of politics of non issue based! Please someone tell Sata to behave like a president for the remaining years, we are tired of the silly jokes or whatever he calls them!
This is the very reason why we need to have a Head of State with a degree. This is what happens when you put a Kaponya in State House.
If Iam not mistaken, Dr Kaseba is a girlfriend for producing bana bamufi figololo. Dr Kaseba was just a Sata girlfriend. The Real Mrs Sata used to be a Headmistress at Kamwala Secondary school as most people in Lusaka know. Dr Kaseba ali pampula fye. We all know this.
This sata,s mouth is dirtier than his ass hole,maybe we should blame his parents too because he clearly lacks parental care.
gumugumu, the hole your mother used to defecate you must ve been contaminated with akaswende. Your brains are warped.
Can he tell us how he applied to be born so that all children have a choice of who should be their parents before they are conceived. Kwena mudala uyu is useless. He is the worst President Africa has ever had. That is why he cannot attend important meetings with fellow atticulate heads of states and government from other countries. Sometimes it feels so bad to identify oneself as Zambian when in foregn countries because of the shame he has cast on the people of this country. His days are numbered and only his creator knows when his time to meet him is due!
This Country went to Dogs.So don’t expect it to be easy to correct things in just one year Pf has been in office.The Diplomacy you clowns are talking about is what have killed Zambia in all sectors.Zambia needs a leader who can kick,slap and educate.We are here for the better.Come 2016,another landslide for King Cobra.
It’s like Zambia was under a foolish father under Rabo Bank.Now a real man in the name of step father comes King cobra comes and takes your mother to wife.If you were dodging lessons at school because you had a foolish father giving you handouts it becomes a big fit for you and eventually you start thinking as a human being to build your future.Once you become a better citizen because of him being strict and rough that is when you come to appreciate him in 2016.
How about himself? His real wife is the former Head Teacher at Kamwala Secondary. What about the children with Dr Kaseba? What about the alleged children with Bishop Tresphore Mpundu’s sister, with Emerin Kabanshi, Inutu Suba etc etc etc? HH & Fr Bwalya, if at it is true are much better becoz they are not the ones who sinned. But for him, he is the sinner.
Not withstanding the current Permanent Secretary for Ministry of Transport. And we are not sure how many he left in the village when he was a young man.
I will be honest with you folks, I ve respect for parents especially mothers. Most of the World’s greatest leaders were brought up by single mothers.(Obama, Mandela) For some reason men die earlier and mothers usually soldier on in most trying circumstances to educate the children.
In situations where men run away due to divorce or sheer irresponsibility, these women have held on to the vision of education for their kids. In my village I know of a woman who single handedly sent 2 of her kids up to UNZA by selling home brewed beer for years. Instead of encouraging such determination by our women, you have a President gleefully mocking women. Its sad, really sad.
Sense sgt.!
That statement was very unfortunate. Just goes to show that the man is always thinking of “chigololo” for him to bring up such issues at any opportunity. Wonder how his own children bamu vigololo feel about the sentiments of their supposed father. People should walk out from such fora when he goes off at a tangent. That way just perhaps Sata will know that not everyone enjoys listening to tittle-tattle.
Amafi
Awe apa pena alilufyanya mambala? No one chooses the way he or she is born. Is there no way the President can be taken to task over these remarks? I think Zambians we really docile. We can’t have a President who can be insulting people like that in public. Recently he castigated Hon. Lungu in Public. Just yesterday, he was on Chief Jumbe including the Attorney General.
The problem is our constitution which has given the president all the powers and hence he is untouchable and he can do as he wishes. I hope that in future if the constitution can limit the powers of the president. That way he would answerable for his won words and actions and can be taken to task before he leaves office. It is a pity that we can only deal with Sata after he has left office!
Kwena Sata was a ule proper no wonder the engine got rotten and amputation was done due to warts .No ****8 ilebafulunganyana ba mudala bakumbilwafye mu mbali .****** Sata
Ba Sata bena bapuba,
This is one of Sata’s red herrings and sadly the opposition have not wised up to him and his smokescreens. Sata wants them to fight his game which is mudslinging and insults that’s his strength. They more the spend time of such trivial issues the less time they spend on issue based debates.
*…..time on such trivial issues….
zambian primitivity at its best….. Ati iyo ba president balitukana, u chaps think the more u talk about mcs he ll be brot down u a making him stronger. He is not like these clueless under5s in opposition.
Just imagine if those utterances came from HH or Fr Bwalya! Women would have been in the streets, today itself. No woman has passed any comment so far, how sickening! We dont want in the future to hear any woman castigate an opposition leader for having demeaned them. Zambian women are FAKE! Sata has given you home work, if you deserve any respect in zambia STAND UP AND BE COUNTED. We want to see you demonstrating against such abuse. Bakalya fye!
Our women are more interested in the price of Brazilian hair, Indian hair and weaves than anything.
@Decotexx,
I thank you and commend you for your well articulated comment. We shall all wait to see how women are going to react to your challenge, they must stand up and demonstrate over these appalling insults from none other than the president.
Walasa Decotexx especially that ka lady that likes saying i will walk naked., Let her walk naked we see her kadoyo.
Zambian voters, and the Copperbelt, just blame yoursellves for voting in a lunatic, and you are yet to face more rubbish and more districts created without more money in your pockets. lol!!!!
hello @ Dad… why are you so personal kanshi? you have managed to turn the whole of ZWD into UPND tunes. it has brought you to lusaka times manje. yashani iyo!!!
I challenge Women For Change, NGOCC, FAWEZA, YWCA and Hon. Inonge Wina to make a public stand on the Presidential slur against our mothers, sisters, daughters and all women of this land. I especially challenge the Catholic Church to whom President Sata claims to belong to give him a lesson on what the teachings of Christ say on the issue.
He’s forgetting that he’s fathered many bana ba figololo himself? Do children choose who to be born from? Ifyabupuba!
There is a child in Lstone , born from Mrs Suba banji, can someone investigate this Child.
TELL US MORE, WHAT IS THE NAME AND WHERE TO FIND IT.
It is very rare to have 100% of bloggers agreeing on any topic as they are doing right now. Mr Sata has insulted all women including his own mother. Why is it that every time this president opens his mouth nothing sensible comes out. It’s disgusting!
@ take where is melvin coming from?
Zambia is guaranteed never to get anywhere. Witness the personal attacks between the president and presidential hopefuls. Our country is a genuine banana republic where leaders behave like delinquent children. This is shameful! Can’t they stick to issues of governance?
Ba mudala is made up of insults. He eats, drinks, sleeps dreams insults. Only time sata will stop insults is death. So dont waste time and energy
My mother raised 9 kids on her own. Father met another woman and enjoyed life elsewhere. My kid brothers and sisters don’t know him. But i see no reason why they should pay for his sins. Maybe Sata can explain to the whole alot of people in our situation why we should pay for the sins of our father.
A normal family socialization, with both parents accounted for, would, in my view , be a very suitable attribute for a Zambian presidential candidate, anytime, and every time, not just in 2016.
Really. Obama father is from Kenya. How has that affect his ability to lead a super nation. Typical zambians, you prioritize trivial matters. Probably the person you think is your father is not. Ask your mother to verify before you start parading your derogative mind and hurting people feelings.
@2201 kalanga
And Nelson Mandela is mwana wamu chigololo raise by relatives not his own parents……. But can you for one second compare him to micheal Sata your `angel`??
And all these famous folks never knew their dads.
Jesse Jackson.
Bill Clinton
50 Cent
Jay-Z
Halle Berry
Eddie Murphy
Shaq
Ronaldinho
Lance Armstrong
Charlize Theron
..yet they all grew to be great people.
It seems LT is invaded by toothless ZWD bloggers! Hard luck bane, a spade is a spade and mwana wamuchigololo ni mwana wamuchigololo! Get that to your thick heads you ************!
Mwabatuka sana batata so he has too .But c de way u re crying u id iots?lf dose demagogues were born out of wedrock how do u call them?’BANABAMUCHENDE’ Cobra never included deir mothers but let me help him.Their parents did IVIGOLOLO PERIOD!Y crying?
U SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE SATA DID THE SAME BIG TIME.
@take!! stop pretending as if you know…lack of education? to hell with you
and where is melvin coming from?
It is interesting to see the president flashing a UPND symbol of forward forever. Has he finally realised that the boat is sinking/
mulifipuba sana ba upnd mwe fibatonga ichimutundu chapashi
WELL, THE CIRCUS CONTINUES FROM SOMEONE WHO SHOULD BE A ROLE MODEL OF GOOD MORALS. WHAT WAS THE RELEVANCE OF SUCH SENTIMENTS TO THE ELECTORATE OF CHIPATA CENTRAL? NO WONDER HE IS HERO-WORSHIPPED BY PIPO OF LOW CALIBRE LIKE THE SO CALLED MPEZENI. TO ME SUCH KIND OF TALK INDICATES LACK OF ISSUES TO LIE TO THE VOTERS ANYMORE-LIKE LOWER TAXES, MORE MONEY IN PEOPLE’S POCKETS.ETC. THE PRESIDENT SHOULD SHOW LEADERSHIP. ON THE OTHER HAND, EVEN HIS UP BRINGING IS NOT CLEARLY STATED I.E. EDUCATION BACKGROUND ESP. WHICH SCHOOLS HE ATTENDED AND SO FORTH.
Osmore we know its you mambala you are the only Zambian based in the Persian desert.
Stop supporting ivigololo ba swin.U have been insulting everybody .Do u feel how it feels, u bursteds?That’s y ubucende bwafula nobupuba.A nation of burstereds!
Go tell that to your president Sata,,, who loves vigololo so much that he has alot of bane bamu vigololo
Only your mother knows your biology father. As for you i really doubt. If you think am do a dna test and come back, Sata is a bloody bastard.
I am shocked the Women Movement is mum this time around when there folk are being insulted by this for Cook’s son. I recall how they reacted sharply when GBM joikingly said it is Bemba tradition to slap a wife once in a whie.
Mr. Sata must know that he is not going to be president for ever. Its either he is going to die in office or he will retire and find all the evil things he is doing to colleagues who are not part of his Govt waiting for him.
President is a hypocrite has he forgotten how he slept between 4 homes in the 90s if the black Toyota Cresida is outside, you know Michael is in.
There is high probability of such children to have no respect for other pipo .ln most cases are immoral.Therefore ba Sata is right no u have been on ranpage insulting him and his supporters. REMEMBER WAT RB CALLED THESE TWO, LOL !
Go tell that to your president Sata,,, who loves vigololo so much that he has alot of bane bamu vigololo
When you are walking in the street and concertrate on throwing stones at dogs that bark at you,you will never reach your destination.
Sata must be the last person to talk about parentage. Some of his Children don’t even talk to each other. I came to know some of them in Lusaka, the copperbelt, and even here in Australia where one of them didn’t even finish school and went home without even a diploma to her name. So don’t throw stones old man.
Majority of people that voted for him are bastards. Hoping to get a better life. Why are catholics quiete. If RB had uttered these words, the self riighteous Membe would have written hordes of usual self righteous crap quotting rightouss men like Telephone Mpundu.
Fred M’membe finds himself in a very awkward position. Fred is so compromised by President Sata that he cannot even stand up for his own status. Everyone knows that he was conceived and raised out of wedlock, or as Sata would say, Fred M’membe in mwana wa vigololo. So how can Fred M’membe take a principled stance on this issue? Fred is caught between a bush and a lover’s lane on this one.
Almost all members of your family voted for PF, and president Sata! That includes your mama and your papa, your aunties, uncles, your father’s bana bamu figololo and your own concubines! Are all these bastards?! Sir ndimwe cipuba zoona!!! mboro yanu!
@mechnic eng. There is no madness going on here, it exists only in your brain and that of this spoilt little brat called ndobo. Baice! u dont follow politics in the western world … Its dirtier than anything and not for chicken hearted under5s. So ka ndobo, neshina lineee! kwati ekapipa amafi ya ngombe.
Dont worry i understand you,, iwe mwana wamu chigololo cha Sata,,, BUT the sad part for you is that Sata `refused` you…..so i understand your bitternes and insults, kwati ba winso ba Sata….Its in your DNA
@ george bush, man you are a hero!!! You have largely managed to pump some sense into these bas.tards ka Ndobo, Nostra (stinking!) anus!! You have largely defeated them with your sound points! Let them continue with their PETTY TRIBALISM. Insulting president Sata will just work to his advantage. It will continue making him even more popular!!! ZAMBIANS ARE NOT FO.OLS!
Let them continue being used as USEFUL I.DIOTS by the freemason HH! The fact is they’ll never go anywhere with their United Party for National Disaster Party (UPND)!!!! Wait and See…!
I know of Sata’s first wife. She would have made a good first lady. In my eyes she’s the only legitimately respectable wife he’s ever had.
It’s now 22 years ever since Zambia voted for a young president though nabena bali bakulu bwina ngu’mbo bwalengele but now it’s a tendency to vote for old and finished people with nothing to offer but insults and jokes in place of developmental projects instead they enjoy power and things they missed during their time as young people in other reference they say when a person begins to grow towards old age wisdom become so sweet, natural and fertile, but for him it is vise versa and then if in there so much of weeds what do you do as a farmer………….let him realise before it’s too late like his friend the one is perscuting did and cry.
and then if there so much weeds in the garden, you as a farmer what do you do………
just a repeat.
Hmmm!!! It was big mistake for Mwanawasa to have saved this President from death.
What are you talking about, iwe mafi?! To hell with your jelousy/ pettiness! You ci ng’ombe HH will never rule this country, kwasila!!!!! Start crying…!
Zambia has truly gone to the dogs in the age of Sata and his disrespectful and divisive PF.
Yake siyiwuka.
Bloggers you seem not to understand what vigololo refers or means. This is a child born between a man and a woman in a secret/ilegal relationship. If your mum and dad are married and then dad runs away you are not a vigololo child. Let us avoid having such children (women and Men). My own mum used to tell me that a child is properly brought up in the presence of both parents. Unless death strikes one of the parents it will be understood or may be dirvorce due to serious issues. Lets us ensure we only have children legally. If you are a chigololo child, you are not to blame but ensure you do not contribute to another chigololo child yourself.
People, politics are politics; indeed a dirty game. Most of you i.d.i.o.t.s insult the president and his family day in and day out. So stop complaining. You have even invaded our space. Go back to ZWD. Let me insult you too; m****** mwe.
Food for Thought:
1. The world is a bad place, not because of the people who commit evil, but because of the good people who allow this to happen.
2. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men/women to do nothing – Edmund Burke
3. The evil of the wicked is enhanced by the weaknesses of the virtuous – Anonymous
The president did not refer to all of us. He singled two chaps only. Ala when you are seeking public office, expect such scrutiny. Anyway, I am glad to know where these two chaps’ bitterness is coming from. They both wanted to partner with the president seekng a father figure in him. Ok, we understand now. For your information, vigololo/mubuchende etc simply means fornication without even knowing who your father is. I had a child before I got married. the father is my son claimed him from me and is being looked after by him. So for me, I am not annoyed because I know who the father of my child is. Perhaps our two colleagues, their mothers do not even know who the fathers of these two chaps are or where they are especially uyu musankwa called HH, it could be that the father is a cow…
Very Sad…..
yaba
Sata!! Sata!! Sata!! How many times did I call you? you are last person to insult our mothers because this current wife of yours does not even know what number she is in the line women that you abused. Ala nshalande fingi pantu ninfulwa.