The Bemba Royal Establishment has dismissed as false claims by UPND leader, Hikainde Hichilema, that he was formally invited by the new Paramount Chief Chitimukulu to visit his palace.
Speaking on behalf of the establishment, headman Washanga-Mpika said Paramount Chief Chitimukulu does not engage in partisan politics.
He said the Bemba Royal Establishment is not duty-bound to invite individual politicians to pay courtesy calls on the Chitimukulu at his palace.
The traditional leader explained that all Zambians were free to visit Paramount Chief Chitimukulu provided they follow the right procedure.
Headman Washanga-Mpika has since advised politicians and other stakeholders to be honest when engaging with traditional rulers to avoid creating unnecessary misunderstandings such as the one involving the UPND leader.
He said it was disappointing to learn through media reports that Mr Hichilema claimed to have been invited by Paramount Chief Chitimukulu to visit his palace when this was not the case.
Headman Washanga-Mpika however said Mr Hichilema is free to meet the Chitimukulu if he sends a formal request to the Bemba Royal Establishment.
Meanwhile, PF regional secretary, Evarist Chela, has asked Mr Hichilema to learn to conduct clean politics void of controversy.
Mr Chela said it was wrong for the opposition leader to bring the name of Paramount Chief Chitimukulu into ridicule by claiming that the Mweni-lubemba had invited him to his palace when in-fact not.
He said it is high time Mr Hichilema carried out a reflection of himself when it comes to dealing with national affairs.
Mr.Chela said only then can Zambians take him serious as a politician.
On Wednesday, Mr Hichilema claimed he was blocked by suspected PF cadres from paying a courtesy call on the Chitimukulu after a formal invitation.
HH is a Zambian and a taxpayer of the 1st class so he’s free to visit anybody and anywhere in zed without prior approval of some senior political godfather.This tribal vetting has to end.
A site by kolwestans for kolwestans.
We must federalise this stupid country. Let every tribe manage themselves.
@Zed Patriot that’s why you guys are seen to be tribalist, coz you want to interpret eveything in terms of tribe. The issue here is that your guy HH has been caught lying, pants down! Besides its not the Bemba Chiefs that blocked him but suspected PF caders.
HH the imposer !!!!!!
With the comments below from small minded tribalists, obviously there from the lozi watchdog. It gets tiring after some time like everything else and cant wait for the time the Bemba will say the hate Lozi’s and Tonga’s. then they will see tribalism. Keep enjoying Zambia for when you can. after all the whole place is becoming lumpenised
This is what drinking too much Mabisi can do.
I can only make sense if the kapasos blocked him not PF cadres.
@Cat Power, you seem to have issues with Lozis. It is the first time I am hearing that ‘they’ run the Watchdog! All along the PF and their supporters have been telling all and sundry that the Watchdog is a UPND Tonga website run by HH.
It seems Mr Cat Power you are nothing but a master of projection. You accuse others of tribalism and yet you are so full of bigotry!
Nothing NEW, PF Lies,
“Mr Sata has proved to this nation that he is nothing but a liar. His second name is Mr Liar. Everything that he has promised the Zambian people he doesn’t do it, look at the public order act, implementation of the devolution of governance-decentralization, where is the judicial reforms, where is the constitution, to mention but a few?
He lies in the morning, he lies at lunch time; he lies before going to sleep. He can’t argue with this; his middle name is liar. He lied his way to State House. Mr Sata Liar the Deception! He needs to address the press and people through Question and answer but he can’t because he knows that he lied. What Sata the liar promised the people he has not fulfilled look at the high prices of fuel, food, dirty in the streets- Sweep Zed…
You are missing the point, Enka. The point is he was not invited neither did he make a request to visits and the void that appeared was quickly filled by the usual political hooliganism that your country is now being famous for…
Yea come to think of it! How did this Cat Powers draw Lozis into this? The story has nothing to do with Lozis . And surprisingly he starts aiming darts at us! Cat Power to hell with your hatred for my ethnicity. Deal with the chasing away of HH from Bembaland! Leave us alone. We have never chased any politician from Barotseland. We have welcomed both those who love and loathe us. We even welcome those who threaten to shoot us for merely speaking our mother tongue……”when they say eni sha shoot! When they say Fa shoot! We Lozis are never known for political violence. We are a pluralist and democratic people. We are the only province that sent MPs from 4 different parties to parliament in September 2011. We believe in jaw jaw and not your war war!
It is not tribal vetting. One should respect one’s tradition. What is wrong with following procedure? Dont play the tribal card, be mature!
What for nonsense is this? What a petty country with nothing serious to talk about the all week! Is this even news bakolwe imwe? Let HH visit his people however he feels like without making news and raising emotions for nothing, this doesnt call for any messenger to clarify things, those who felt threatened by his visit can Jump, they are alot of important issues to discuss than Hihis visit to the big tree for monkeys to swing!
Have you people in kasama discussed the shortage of medication in KGH, shortage of teachers, projects for the Youths, early marriages of future women doctors in Kasama, Sex related diseases? HH never mind, you have nothing to gain even if they cry blood, move on go back again, this is your country you dont need a Visa, shame on you all monkey see..Monkey do!
ati tili mu diaspora we are educated, exposed and clivilised!! shockingly stu.pid!!!@cat power i once thought you are a man above stu.pid tribal blogging. I wish and hope one day shinheads will pay a visit and show you how different you are…
@kali.. nothing wrong with mabisi bembas que for mabisi in choma.
@Al Assad,, get you head straight! HH is not lying, he has just mishandled this issue and therefore lost an opportunity for bemba bless or advice from the chitimukulu.,, i tell what!, the chitimukulu did infact invite HH but he wanted it to appear as a normal visit NO publicity.. remember the chitimukulu is a traditional man, he has his own ways of dealing with issues.. think my boy
@cindy
thanks a million!!.. Great comment!!!
@Cindy i thought you were a decent blogger ? I feel bad that i was wrong.You have a good point which unfortunately has been diluted by your choice of words.Your comment leaves a lot to be desired.At the end of the day it doesn`t make you appear more wiser than the people you are calling monkeys and other derogatory names.This is sad.
Enka are u sure a chief of Chitimukulu’s status will just see anybody even if they are a politician without notice of the visit? Can one just knock on the Litunga’s door, Mwata Kazembe’s door or Kalonga Gawa undi’s door and be seen immediately?
If HH did not make an appointment as claimed here, I think the guy should know better than that.
Let us respect these traditional rulers with the respect they deserve, it is their birth right to be our chiefs. They are not appointed or voted into office (for a politician, i dont expect an appointment because they are our employees!).
@ Zebige,
Trust me you are right, dont confuse my choice of words for tribal or race inclinations, i use words around not in bad faith,i know you seem to agree with people who believe words like monkey is a very bad statement or racially inclined, thats the reason am never racist or tribal for i love monkeys for i have little bit studied them, they are very interligent & active, only if you experience what i have with them then you will never be angry to be refered to as a monkey, try to see good out of bad things, only when you do that can you ever be a decent human being, yes it is not easy to deduce the right meaning of anything especially on the blog, am a lover of every human being regardless of their status, in every human being there is every animal.
@ Zebige,
In short, you see how fire spreads fast? One messenger without knowing in which state he was when he issued that statement, has even done more damage than building, can you tell me the difference between the messenger and different bloggers lashing out on this blog? If you honestly answer that then you will know how vulnerable we human beings are, am telling you a human being is the most interligent being but yet the most stupid of all living beings. Am not perfect, just as you may not be, same as HH might not, but hey who is.. Sata? no Zebige we are all the same, depends on which day, mood, environment, affirliations and so on and so forth, we can only show this much depending on the influence, so lets just all cool down and agree that what happenned was a shame!
@ Zebige,
Lets agree that what happenned was a shame and should not happen again, by the way, am a proud Zambian Half Bemba who would run from one end of the street to the other if i happenned to meet a Lozi, Tonga Lenge in this part of the Jungle iam, thats how ironic life is, even the most tribal enermies would genuinely hug and kiss if the were the last two humans on earth, If we want Zambia to develope we should work together and accept each other, yes trees standing next to each other never go without brushing each other, such is life but how far we go shall either bring us down or build us up. I for one have no time for tribalists or racist for i know they have their own personal issues there by letting it out on others is the only way to feel good or survive.
@cindy
Again,, great comment , you can take my heart any time, your comment makes me respect you even more..
What most people here are failling or refusing to do is to seperate Sata from his tribe and judge or praise him as a person, perform or not performing leader, in the same breath judge HH as an individual not as a tribal,,, tribal thinking is evil especially if you are the diaspora,,because one at least is thought to be educated, exposed and civilised!!
Lastly @ Zebige,
If you go back to all my posts you will realise that i just love to twist words, i use everything from names to colours name it, i just love painting my pictures with every colour just to beautify the picture i guess thats what Art is all about, if you really look through the picture of my comments, you will easily tell my personal character, you can hide who you are on the blog but a true picture of your personality will show one way or the other in your words, not always but for consistant bloggers you can acturely tell what kind of persons they are, thats if you are really good at detecting. Otherwise, have a lovely weekend bloggers dont let this messenger deter us, am outta hier peace to mother Zambia and one love, am out!
Press statement issued by a mare headman who has been paid K200 by GBM! It could have carried some weight if the statement was issued by at least a chief. We shall hear what the real representative of the BRE has to say about this.
PF’s lies is normally short lived and they know it.
HH is a very organised man . There is no way he could have just decided to pay a courtesy without asking for permission from the BRE. HH’s team should release the invitation letter to dispel these rumours.
Reason why I think this ka Cindy is a man.A real woman can’t insult in this manner.It it is a she then it must be a messed up one and probably grew up in a dysfunctional home.High time people started showing maturity on this blog.
@ Ndobo,
Thank you, you know the best way to concur? spread love where there is hate, some how i cant stop wondering why Tongas and Lozis aint cousins of the so called Bembas, i think they must have been in the past life or will be in the next, these guys love and hate eacth other like two brothers, the older and younger fighting for their birth rite!
Do Santos chill,
Pure lady with good manners… kwena wansekesha iwe chill mukamba!
Please reason when blogging and blog using your brains and not feelings! The article clearly states that HH and every other person is free to visit Chitimukulu so long you follow procedure. Even the republican president follows procedure to meet Chitimukulu so why should Hakainde be an exception anyway? Just follow the laid down procedure and all shall be well!
Lets us not run away from the truth let HH if he is honest to provide proof of the traditiol Paramount Chiti Mukulu having invited him?We Bembas do not promote tribalism for God forbits.Please let us avoid that kind of language we are one.
@Sauliso,
I thought your wife advised you to take it easy.Listen to what she is saying. She loves you and needs some attention. Devote most of your time to your family. If the addiction persists see a doctor or a Psychiatrist. I wish I could help. Today, Saturday, take a break. If you have a car, drive out. Do not be angry with your wife for going public. Hug, kiss her, and thank her for caring. If you respond to this advice and continue with you blogging then you are severely sick.This goes for others too,
@Wanzelu
Let me explain, the Headman, Washanga Mpika, is actually the spokes person of the LTC(luBemba Traditional Council) He is a member of the central committee of uluBemba if you like. Chitimukulu governs uluBemba through his sub-chiefs and headmen. From this these sub-chiefs and headmen, a Central Governing Body is constituted,(bashi luBemba). Mr. Washanga Mpika sha luBemba is the official spokesperson of the LTC. He may be a mere village head man but he is VIP in the luBemba hierarchy.
@Wantashi
Thanks for clarifying the issue. How ever I still think this man has been compromised by the PF to issue such a suspect statement. What he did not explain is ,who let the PF thugs to block HH. Is it the LBC that issued that order?
next time when u wish to vist th chief carry bembas wth u who understands the traditions wel. i wsh u wel and hop to see clean politics from both pf and upnd.
Which traditions are these? Just accept that you are a violent people! The so called Bemba Royal Establishment has also just confirmed their violent nature. Normal people would have castigated the people who chased away a visitor paying a courtesy call on the chief!
he is a stupid! he mistook kasama to mazabuka
Stupid tribalist!! Sata Neon Call!!
This bemba reaction is funneled by GBM in a bid to seek govt recognition of their new chief. It’s all reverse engineering here. Trying to build credibility after ascending to the title instead of vice-versa.
Zambian politics are very immature. The only clauses of the constitution that are observed are those that draw lines and not those that confer entitlements to persons, i.e freedom of expression, freedom of association, freedom of movement etc
walasa
BEMBAS ARE THE MOST TRIBALIST PEOPLE IN ZAMBIAAND THEY THINK THEY OWN ZAMBIA .YOU GO BACK TO YOUR STUPID KOLWESTAN WHERE YOU EAT MONKEYS LUSAKA DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU EITHER YOU ARE SUFFOCATING US MOVE GO TO MUCHINGA LUAPULA AND NORTHERN FUMENI APA.EVEN THE SO CALLED BEMBA CHIEFS ARE SUPPORTING WHAT HAPPENED. A WISE CHIEF WOULD HAVE CONDENMED WHAT HAPPENED YOU SENSLESS KOLWES
@ chinga Mabisi,
A wise chief would have not even bothered commenting on such nosense, am partly Mbemba, i have known pure Bembas who are smarter than this, these Monkeys are hungry, this is what poverty can do, it is the greatest Wizard of our world, people do jaw dropping things you wouldnt believe just to eat, but we shouldnt be angry, time will come when all hungry weaklings are catapulted!
Am so embarrassed to be Partly Bemba at this point in time, who does that….. i mean who? what a kingdom have pride for petes’ sake!
By the way Kunda Kunda sorry about your mother who has been divorced on allegations that she was cheating at your father. Your father has been impregnanting women at will and your mother tolerated him. My heart goes out to her.
We now have a good idea about the most tribal and violent people in this country!
A wise establishment should condemn all acts of violence whether an invitation was granted or not. Common decency demands that all acts of violence should never be entertained and an apology should have been given for this barbaric behavior by some subjects! Zambians from the North should know better the ugly face of civil wars! It is so easy to start one and it only takes a tribal spark!
North and South repel each other, just try to have the spirit of love for one another lest Zambia risks splitting into north and south.
THE BETTER LETS SPLIT WE ARE FED UP MOVE GO BACK TO THE NORTH WE ARE TIRED OF MONKEYS IMPOSING THEMSELVES ON PEOPLE FUMENI APA.
KAMUYA ZWA
HH no need to visit tribalistic bembas leave them alone,give them the middle finger,they should as well not come kumusanza,we need a federal state.
Leave them and vote for yourself, this is the reason why HH will never be president of this country because you guys you are very tribalistic such that even when HH is wrong you can not advise him. In bembaland you do not just wake up and say l want to see the Chief,no our tradition requires somebody to notify the Chief through his represetatives that you want to visit theChief then you will be advised accordingly.
At least you should observe order because even HH at his UPND OFFICE ,you can not just go straight to his office to see him and what more a Chief and a paramount Chief for that matter? plse guys can you face reality.
i have tried very much not to comment on this one cos of the type of lingual flying around. quiet shameful. a newcomer on this blog would think it is bloggers from two different countries, who are at each others throat.
but cos of @paswapabe’s comment, am forced to congratulate him.
keep it up man.
Lets us not run away from the truth let HH if he is honest to provide proof of the traditiol Paramount Chiti Mukulu having invited him?We Bembas do not promote tribalism for God forbits.Please let us avoid that kind of language we are one.
I heard Honourable Mutanga saying there was nothing tribal but all to do with political
parties intorance not to allow HH into PF teritory. HH stop complaining too much KK went through that Chiluba,Mwanawasa almost died Sata served these cells please keep on fighting since you an achiver
@chalwe it was not muntanga it was mulusa
this is NOT tribal… this is STU.PIDITY and PRIMITIVE KAPONYA-ISM
Kasama has already ENDORSED HH FOR 2016
In your dreams!
Fwe bena kasama 2016 mukwai niba HH fye tulevotela. Haleisa Haleisa Humwine Heka
Ka HH ubufi, busy claiming to have received official invitation, kanshi iyo! He wanted to seem as if he has support from the Bemba Paramouncy, tough luck! Bemba chiefs are not that cheap..
They are not cheap but they are tribalists. It seems they didn’t like a foreigner to visit them. That is why they and the PF set their supporters to chase him from Northern Province!
they are cheap and that is why they are partisan shame on you and you say one Zambia one nation kabiyeni kumwenu Lusaka does not belong to you
The Kasama attach on HH was purelly tribal. PF has perpetrated Bemba hate against Tongas and Lozis. Much as there are civilized Bembas like His Royal Highness Paramount Chief Chitimukulu (Real Bemba), there are a whole lot of primitive Bembas, especially Mpika ones like this shameless headman, who hate Tongas and Lozis with a passion. Shameless tribalism!
To comment on the Mpika headless headman, I have been to so many chiefdoms and have visited palaces without complicated procedures. The headless Mpika headman, fake Bemba as he is, are the people tanishing the image of real Bembas.
I repeat, the Kasama attack was purly tribal. This is proved by this headless headman ranting clap on so called formal procedure.
WELL SPOKEN
…Meanwhile, a courtesy call DOES not need any form of formal invitation. So HH was free to ‘visit’ the paramount chief, through a courtesy call. But alas, stupid PF goony carders!!..
An appology like that one from GBM would have been enough! but what we are now hearing from headmen and some PF LEADERS, we can clearly see that it was a TRIBAL ATTACK..INFACT BEMBA TRIBAL ATTACK…Am tonga and can asusure you we shall revenge.
What happens to us who have bemba and tonga heritage you revenge half way
Busy throwing toys out of your pram when you dont have it your way. Grow up and face reality. Cry babies!
Mwebabemba mwalikwata akapatulula. if that was done by a lozi all the papers in zambia would be talking about it. Shame to all the bemba chiefs!!!!!!!!
Twists and turns. Looking forward to when a politician will live by truth.
I think a wise debate should Center on the following questions:
1. Did HH claim that he was invited by Chitimukulu?
2. Was he invited?
3. Was he attacked?
I see that most comments posted do not Center on the actual subject and becoming tribal rather than factual.
Your conclusion should tell you more of what kind of a muntu Africans are, thats why the smartest race on earth did away with such primitive inclinations, when they fight it’s about normal practical things centered on real life issues, not medeaval nonsensical behavioural emotional mental issues which needs medical attention, who knows maybe the messenger has Bi polar or some sort of Brain disorder, which throws a question to us of whether there is a mental health crisis in Zambia escalating due to the fact that poverty and politics move hand in hand? If i were president i would call for a serious press confrence and rebuke everyone making noise on such useless topics dividing the nation, come abve the waters for once!
bembas are destroying zambia,wish it was hitlers reign,u would have been slained.u are purely tribalists
You fascist pig.
@Onono waba ipuli.
Your man lied, period! Why are u not addressing that?
@Onono
I’ve just confirmed we’re dealing with teenagers here on this blog. You evidently don’t appreciate the atrocities of the holocaust. That’s why you can toss it around as a solution casually.
Note to self: Stop wasting time valuable with ignorant unteachable teenagers
The dude HH was a gentlemen when he just arrived on the political scene.He used to exude not only intelligence but maturity as well, it is those attributes which helped to convince opposition leaders like Nawakwi and Tilenji Kaunda to go into an alliance with him under U.D.A, but that all changed when he lost elections.The man became a monster….the gentleman was gone.All that remained was a shadow of a man we all initially thought was an intellectual.He was found in the middle of a fight in Mufumbwe,he started insulting elders calling them names like Hyenas,Chim-bwi no plan.Nawakwi and the group realised too late that they were blinded by his riches and false demeanor.Now he is different man who is even lying that he was beaten in Kasama or that the Chitimukulu invited him.Smh
Gentleman
when has a politician ever told the truth? Show me one
Well said Saulosi.HH sivintu.
@CS
1. AND 2. HH WAS NOT INVITED.
2. THERE IS NO DOCUMENTAL OR PICTORIAL EVIDENCE.
SIMON MWANSA KAPWEPWE WAS IN PHOTOS
WHEN UNIP’S WILLIAM BANDA BEAT HIM UP IN CHILENJE.
NO BODILY HARM WAS DONE TO HIM.
NO DAMAGE WAS DONE TO HIS CARS.
CADRES IN KASAMA HAD A RIGHT TO DEMONSTRATE AGAINST ANYONE WHO
ENGAGES IN CONFRONTATIONAL & INSULTING POLITICS AGAINST
THE HEAD OF STATE.
THE CHAP WAS ON A CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
HE IS SIMPLY A RABBLE ROUSER
THE CHAP WAS ON A CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
HE IS SIMPLY A RABBLE ROUSER
YOU ARE SICK.TELL YOUR SATA NOT TO VISIT ANY PROVINCE
We can’t get suprised , these monkeys to follow there history they came from DRC congo where there is violence so that’s why even them there violent.
the world we live in. Freedoms are monitored like honey out of a hive. Zambia and India have one thing in common. link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-24131318
HH RAN AWAY WHEN HE SAW
MAMA JULIA CHIKAMONEKA AND HER GRAND CHILDREN
IN THEIR BIRTH SUITS!
Hehehehhehehhehehehehehehehheeh…. nice
simply NO Comment.
This saulos thing i think even to his wife he is boring.ttust me
I have just realized that Saulosi is a better blogger than most of you.Atleast he argues with facts and his language is mature.Now look at you.Shame
Ulabeja !!!
thanks @janette for that comment.
Yesterday it was the PF militia issuing a statement playing down the tribal violence of the Northerners. Today it is the Northern Chiefs trying to put the blame on the victim who was escorted out of their region by the PF militia. You can twist and turn but the truth shall remain constant. You’re stinking tribalists who have made your region a no go area for the legitimate opponents of your tribal government! Shame on you!
You are inciting Hate.
The northern province (and the rest of Zambia) is open to anyone of any tribe. These are politics.
Calm down and don’t be such a drama queen.
Chasing someone from your area is not politics! You people are just sick primitive tribalists! It always only happens in the Northern part of Zambia.
A lot of individual Tongas are very good people. except the Tongas who are UPND cadres, they are the ones who have the tribal tone in their words. H.H is just ok, but the tribal undertones in their voices will H.H not to rule this country.
Same applies to Bembas. Well put but was one sided.
will cause H.H not to rule this country
HH do your home work before going to visit GBM’s area, get official invitation even if it takes long but it’s safer for all.tribal bloggers you must be ashemed.
Hanya Hanya (HH) has freedom to visit any chief in our beloved country. Let us understand Hanya Hany as is still growing in politics, but the problem was that he cheated…
The problem with Haka Haboza lying is to try & atract public atention!And each time he lies time & integrity is goibg.The time he realises Haka Hapena wil b in a web mistrust.Dont lie to get public atention earn it.Not lies.The man is in haste.
I just keep wondering, if the Bembas who are majority are being attacked this way, many times unnecessarily so, what will happen to the Bembas when a person from a manority tribe rules Zambia? I suspect they would be squized into oblivion. Presidents from minority would any thing to control the majority. The writing is on the wall.
The person who was attacked is HH. No Bemba politician has ever been chased away from any province. And here we have Bembas chasing away HH from Northern Province to the extent of him been given police protection to get out of that province. Stop twisting and turning. Learn to deal with your violence and tribalism!
I agree. When Mwanawasa was President many people started claimiing that their forefathers were from somewhere in central/copper-belt provinces and even started speaking lamba/lenje. Many more also enrolled to study law. ( Zambian life/politics.)
Now I can understand why this whole thing was TRIBAL. Why is this ka headman engaging in politics while pretending otherwise?
Yes it is tribal! They were supposed to condemn their tribesmen who chased away a guest paying a courtesy call on the chief. Instead we have this nonsense from the newly created BRE (copy and paste) saying that they didn’t invite him.
FROM WHICH PLACE IS THIS HEAD MAN washanga – mpika COMING FROM? I DON’T BELIEVE SUCH A NAME CAN BE A SPOKESMAN FOR THE bre.
THE STORY WAS MADE UP BY pf INTELLIGENCE.
But why would anyone visit this bemba chief for what? How does he improve anyones life and who trust people like that why would HH bother visiting those people ewwwll
@ CS you have spoken sense. Many sensible blogger cant coment because of not sticking to the topic as you have outlined.
bembas we are too tribal and if we are not carefull we would call confussion in this country,provinces like southern province they got everything we don’t have.plse those comments you send you kali and others be mindful alot of people are going throught.
HH Liar, liar, liar, liar, liar, liar, liar, liar, liar, liar caught pants on fire, I now see why Sata accuse this Guy of not knowing his father, because of his conducts like this, tells a story that the guy had no one to teach him good manners when he was growing up. Pawwww liar, pawwww liar. Perhaps HH needs to study Manners 101, or Politics 101.
Are the Barbarians scared of Heroic Hercules (HH)?
Heroic Hercules! You sir are a genius
1) Stop this Bemba-Tonga nonsense. You are not the only two tribes in Zambia.
2) Although everyone has the right to visit any royal establishment, there is procedure, whether visiting Chitimukulu or the Lozi Litunga or the Lunda Kanong’esha or the Luvale Ndungu…etc.. Dont politicize the non-political.
3) When H.E Mr. Anderson Mazoka (The real non-tribal UPND leader who appealed across the board because he was genuine) died the Tonga royal/tribal leaders agreed that the replacement should also be a Tonga, and that is how HH entered. This is not a tribal statement, it is a historical fact. As such, if we wish to talk about tribalism, let’s face reality.
4) We who are neither Bemba nor Tonga are getting sick of this nonsense. We love you both.
HH is just like any politician, they are all liars, only Mr. Sata operates at a masterly level of the game.
Guys one Zambia, one Nation! Come all of here! Why have you abandoned REASONING which animals don’t possess? I know it’s hot, but you can’t low yourself like this. Politicians would use any means to justify their end & you are busy brogging nonsense here as if you are on ZWG. Ati a christin nation full of hatred!
Those who think their tribes will win them votes u deceive yourselves. lt is even st upidity to think those pf thugs were all Bembas.As a smart Bemba no human being or cocroach will ever cow me down.kukosafye dong’t use tribalism to win symphathy.
Upnd have convinced themselves that Sata won because of lies for them it is two year develop Zambia hence have adopted a stratege of falsehood. l know u imitate Sata but u are very poor learners.Shame upon u.
I hate this especially that now we chess people from other provinces. If this tendency is adopted by each province I fear for this country.
Upnd you call bembas,kolwestans.honestly do expect them to vote for kaya .
I will start looking after my own province now. No politicians from other provinces….And it don’t matter whether you are in government or not.
I don’t give a damn on who runs this country but my blood boils when my tribe is attacked.It is a very sensitive and very emotional issue.So a Tonga politician shouldn’t go to Kasama ?and a Bemba politician can pay a courtesy call on chief mukuni in Livingstone???Thumbs up Cindy, though you went a bit too far with your Monkey analysis.
I doubt the authenticity of this message, if you believe this is came from the Bemba chiefs then am Barack Obama, this sounds like political engineering from PF…SATA and his cronies
@mase gumble Spot on . This is all lies meant to divert attention from the real issue of why the PF blocked HH.
All pro PF blogers have failed to explain why HH was blocked from seeing the the paramount chief. More over It was not the duty of the PF thugs to do the Kapaso’s jobs.
Any way one fact has been established; it is true HH was blocked by PF thugs.
Weak politicians always resort to violence. SATA him self is weak politician thats why he uses violence to get his way. But one day, those who use violence shall get their dividend in return.
Headman Washanga-mpika lol where is his village?
It is Sata ‘s appointed headman maybe.
The police media statements says they new about the visit to. Sure how can the police know the visits and not the chiefs
The Bemba chiefs invited him.
How do I know? Because they have said so. It’s in their answer.
We Bembas have “insoselo”, you have to have a certain acuity to see what someone is actually saying, even though they appear to agree with you.
What they are in fact saying is “Why the FCuk shouldn’t he come” WITHOUT actually saying so.
As I am not a chief I’ll say it – WHY THE FCUK CAN’T HE GO TO SEE MWINE-LUBEMBA?
Here’s the typical Zambian understanding of things . (Very simple of course.)
If you think the government is incompetent, you are a UNDP supporter.
If you don’t think Sata is presidential material then you Love, love, love HH
If you are Bemba, you are against a change in government.
If you are Tonga you are tribalist
If you are Bemba you are tribalist……
and so on, and so on…..Certainly no thinking outside the (very small) box here!
Who made RB lose?
Rupiah himself
Who will make Sata lose?
Sata himself
Even if Pope stood on PF ticket, I will vote against him.
Abash PF, Abash liers, Abash vigololos
Going over most of the comments, it is easy to see how Zambians are being deceived. They can believe in anything as long as it comes from government, police, etc. We need to cultivate a healthy sense of skepticism where government power is concerned. Why can we see that under Sata’s government, Zambia has become a controlling society? It is very clear to see that those in authority are determined to withhold information and distort the truth. We should be subjected to fear, anger, distortion, disinformation, and deceit. What I see with respect to HH’s case is an example of perception management whereby those in authority influence the police and chiefs to deny what had happened. The government manipulates the behavior and beliefs and feelings of large numbers of people.
Healthy sense of skepticism – Yes. It’s sadly lacking, some of us have to make up the deficit for the rest of you.
Going over most of the comments, it is easy to see how Zambians are being deceived. They can believe in anything as long as it comes from government, police, etc. We need to cultivate a healthy sense of skepticism where government power is concerned. Why can we see that under Sata’s government, Zambia has become a controlling society? It is very clear to see that those in authority are determined to withhold information and distort the truth. We should not be subjected to fear, anger, distortion, disinformation, and deceit. What I see with respect to HH’s case is an example of perception management whereby those in authority influence the police and chiefs to deny what had happened. The government manipulates the behavior and beliefs and feelings of large numbers of people.
Police has confirmed that HH was meeting the paramount chief. Read Zambia reports
HH was on a private visit as a free citizen of zambia. That pf Mpika headman’s explanation isnot only misplaced but pf oriented. HH was accompanied by bemba stalwarts one of them Mutale Nalumango, who know the bemba culture better than that pf Mpika headman! Pf is ill managed political misfit.
What’s wrong with bembas kanshi. The man was attacked but you are putting blame on him. I swear a Bemba shouldn’t cross in front of me
I will cross around you, in front of you, east & west of your stinking arse. And what, dear sewage-pumpe (the ‘e’ is silent) are you gonna do about it?
Cross the Atlantic and test out your theory
One would have expected the so called bemba chiefs to condemn those that attacked HH. But they have reduced themselves to the level of the attackers. Little wonder Sata has no respect for them and one can’t blame him for that.
eish..its that ka hungry cheif they denied ever having sent to PF-dead BC..kekekeke..HH is the man..
All politicians are lias, Sata and HH inclusive. HH lied and is now shamed. Guys dont lie.
Peace and Prosperity to Mother Zambia.
bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas bembas. you’re such s*upit tribe i ever seen.what wrong with this so cAllen?