Friday, April 19, 2024

Defections to PF are stage managed – HH

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PF cadre only indentified as kampengele with MMD memberships cards for defectors
PF cadre only indentified as kampengele with MMD memberships cards for defectors

United Party for National Development (UPND) president Hakainde Hichilema says the ruling Patriotic Front (PF) is deceiving itself by stage managing defections from opposition political parties.

Mr. Hichilema’s observation follows the defection of 1,200 UPND and MMD members to join the ruling PF on Saturday at a ceremony held in Lusaka’s Mandevu township.

Mr. Hichilema says no person in his right mind of thinking can defect to the ruling PF when they can barely afford a bag of mealie meal due to the high cost of living.

He adds that it does not make sense for anyone to join a political party associated with violence and has stolen people’s freedoms.

The UPND leader says the alleged staged managed PF defections are in response to the defectors his party has been receiving from other political parties.

Mr Hichilema notes that the PF is using the similar tactics to the ones the MMD was using while in power of stage managing defections, but still ended up losing the elections.

And MMD Acting National Secretary Chembe Nyangu has told Qfm News in a separate interview that his party is surprised that members that left the party when it lost power to the PF in the 2011 general elections are the same ones being paraded as having defected to the PF.

Mr. Chembe says as far as the former ruling party’s structures in Mandevu are concerned, there are no records that show that the party has lost any member through defections.

72 COMMENTS

  1. Hahahahaha. PF is lying to itself. Reality will be on the wrong side very soon. There is barely nothing they did for the people.

    • The nice thing about a lie is that the person telling it is the first to know that it’s a lie – effectively lying to themselves! That’s what this titanic PF is doing.

    • these 1diots have made the work of UPND easy. let them fain defectors, its taking them no where. sata is going no where, he cant even peep in cameras, hahahahahaha……………….. lesa nimalyotola.

    • What a useless excuse of a man this HH.
      A complete biological mistake

      They are not staged you tube they are REAL

      Thanks

    • All defections are stage managed. They have always been part of plural politics in all third/fourth world countries.

      Otherwise there is no other way you can change the opinion of majority illiterate Zambians. Truth does not just work. Surprisingly even to some literates.

      Ten men defected from the MMD to the UPND some three to four weeks ago here in North Western Province. The following week I heard that more than two hundred MMD and PF members had defected to UPND. Guess what that did to public opinion.

      It actually helps…but not with you learned *****s.

    • Poor HH just because you can stage manage an escape from pseudo-PF cadres in Ndola doesn`t mean everyone does the same.PF has integrity unlike you and your pathetic party.Smh

    • i know the tribal regional leader has no credibility and is in self destruction mode.

      he is now peddling his usual pedestrian arguments to feed and satisfy his ego.

      Quit politics and try acting. at least we have seen a trailer of your upcoming documentary

    • Mushota, Gen and Saulosi you are un-popular because of speaking RUBBISH on blog.
      Your party is retrogressive and TRUE Zambians are no longer interested. Continue wasting your time. Who doesn’t know that millie meal in now up? life is getting hard and hard every day? you think Zambians are as dull as you? NO.

    • @Janza Kumbele…just because you don’t agree with these peoples political stance doesnt make what they say rubbish.They just don’t agree with your view or opinion so just get on with it.Calling them names won’t make you look wiser.

    • Litunga, At least try to use your eyes for once. You are no longer driving on those potholes and you still “pontaling” Yaba. For the Kwacha, falling of copper and American mopping of the dollar has a huhe impact on the Kwacha and other currencies. Been to SA of late? 1 to 11 from 1 to 7; Nigia 1 to 170 from 1 to 140. Australia yiu need less dollar for your Australian dollar and so is the Huan in China. I have not hear politicians and indeed citizens including those which bath tab allergy waking up and making noise over the currency. PF is on the right track.

    • PF cadres are so desperate. They are like ticks on a dying animal. And that animal is truly dying…..2016 is almost here. and there will be no coronation either for Sata or his heir apparent son Mulenga either as President of Zambia or as Chitimukulu. PF will be buried together with its founding tribal warlord leader.

    • HH is lying to himself. He will never be president of this country because of his tribalism and racism put together.

    • But these PF thugs, 1,200 people in Mandevu? Now I start to agree that Mulenga Sata has turned into a criminal, he was better off selling dogs.

    • SPIDERMAN’HH’ stage manage an escape from one roof top to another. where is Spidermans co staring william tekere.

    • Is there a politician who is not power hungry? Sata has been in politics for over thirty years. What was he looking for all these years? PF chaps are an embarrassing lot. You’re a dumb lot.

    • palo what ever yu call yo self.my educate yu together with mushota,salosi gen,that times have changed.we used to say sata can not rule Zambia,others said he is madbut still pipo voted for him.he is now president.HH GOT HALF the votes Sata got to win in 2011.thats not a joke 500thousand+ votes plus and sata got 1m+.HH is a real threat to PF.ITs very posible for HH to be president of Zambia.youths with mixed blood can not buy the tribe song its outdated.so watch the space.

  2. What is the ruling government looking to achieve by fabricating such stories? People are not interested in such things. We need these guys (PF) to bear in mind that we put them in power and therefore need them to deliver on their promises and not just responding to threats from other parties. Miss the good old days, indeed the devil you know is better than an angel you have never seen!

  3. No sane person can defect to PF at this time. Let pf continue living the 2011 glory achieved through deceit. Jean kapata can do better than this to celebrate her elevation,not this falsehood which can only be believed by morons only. The truth is pf is afraid of the under five Tonga bull. Haleisa,,haleisa,,2016

  4. Ba PF…..full of lies.

    Illiko bad its reminding me of Ndola where… they lied that HH was lying.

    HH was not lying. One thing I ve liked of HH is, he was SO CALM DURING tht incidence and people mis interpreted to b a LIER.Whn in danger dont PANIC otherwise u will b messed up.Its like the Man was even PRAYING in his heart,wht a serenity of a LEADER.

    GOD BLESS ZAMBIA. PEACE TO ZAMBIA.
    Viva HH viva UPND.

  5. Elizabeth Chitika said Chiluba said it in 2001 that i can’t give the Presidency to Sata; “teti asunge abantu, kuntu abapatanya” and here we are.
    I am very upset that innocent citizens are being harassed just for belonging to a different party. Chili ndwii mu state house and very primitive as usual. wake up and start leading, iwe chi Sata. Say something about the violence. Also there is a provision for resigning in your contract in case you are not aware.

  6. Wina azalila mu 2016. They try violence and seems to go on other way, now flattery defection and has been received with bullet profs. kaya.

  7. “Mr. Kabimba would also say that no person in his right mind of thinking can defect to UPND when the party OPENLY alienates other citizens on the basis of tribe”

  8. Mr. Nyangu is admitting some members have crossed over . On the other hand HH thinks it’s impossible because he believes everyone hates PF so much so that no one would want to associate with it. It is this unbelief that would make the opposition lose again. My observation is that those that support PF rarely speak out and make noise about it (except for the carders), we saw this in 2011. If there was really tension in the country right now you would sense it on the streets, in the market places etc (we saw this in 1991 and 2011. In short opposition while you are busy arguing and unbelieving PF is gaining mileage and the time is ticking. DO NOT be misled by bloggers, voters are out there.

  9. UPND open policy is that it can be led by Tongas only.

    Is that not alienating others from the Party top leadership?

    Never mind Mr Chibwe and Ms Mutale Nalumago. They are there just for HH’s wallet!

    • Sata and his tribal government are a one term government. He and his relatives will be shown the door. Finance Minister is Sata’s relative, so is the treasury secretary, so is the Minister of Commerce and so on and so forth. look at the Boards of Directors and management of all parastatals and public agencies. All Bemba. We shall not be deflect Sata is a tribalist so are his supporters.

  10. You r right and this Tonga and Bemba Conflicts he is trying to do, it will take Sata Nowheree……Why did Chiluba chose a Tonga/ Lenje guy like Mwanawasa to lead us…..!!!
    Sata shud be CAREFUL with politics of Chitulika Village. All Bembas will run away frm him.

    Lets Unite Zambia as a Young generation.

    • point of correction, Mwanawasa was lenje/lamba and thats why tongas rejected him. only a tonga can be an up and down president. ask sakwiba,chisanga,lubinda,sichinga etc

  11. Our HH is messed up.
    Its now true that the young man spends most of his time playing around with his calculator.

    How many people did UPND announce defected from the then ruling party MMD, to his party in 1991? Massive, compared to those who went to PF.

    In 2011? Massive, compared to those who went to PF.

    Who won?

  12. They are not called DONCHI KUBEBA for nothing; job creation figures – fake, economic development statistics – fake, defections – fake, quality of a president in Sate House – fake, everything is fake!!

    There is no normal person who can defect to PF. You need to be very sick like Sata-n in State House to join his party. Imagine defecting to PF to promote violence, deny people freedom of expression, freedom of association, freedom of assembly, and other freedoms?

    You really need to be sick beyond cure to defect to PF and Sata-n.

    PF cadres I challenge you to show me a normal person who defected to PF. What normal person would want to be associated with a violent political party?

    • most of people in Zambia are PF that’s why we won in 2011 even in 2016 PF will win desparate UPND get it into your head keep on deaming

  13. I CAN PROUDLY SAY I VOTED FOR THE PF IN 2011. I KNOW THEY HAVE NOT DONE AS WELL AS I EXPECTED. ON SOME PRONOUNCEMENTS , THEY WERE TOO AMBITIOUS. AND SOMETIMES THEY BEHAVE LIKE A “KNOW IT ALL, BIG MAN”. THEY HAVE NOT LOST IT ALL. THEY HAVE MANAGED TO SUSTAIN THE INVESTOR CONFIDENCE, HENCE THE OVER-SUBSCRIBING OF BONDS. THE INFRUSTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT IS QUITE GOOD. YES SOME ISSUES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED HONESTLY LIKE THE CONSTITUTION MAKING PROCESS. HOWEVER THE NOISE BY THE OPPOSITION IS NOT PROPORTIONAL TO THE ERRORS THE PF HAS COMMITTED THUS FAR. THEY ARE CREATING A STORM IN A TEA CUP. YOU MAY THINK THERE IS CHAOS IN ZAMBIA. BUT ALAS. THERE IS NONE. OF COURSE THE PF SHOULD NOT JUST IGNORE EVERYTHING THE OPPOSITION SAYS. AND THE OPPOSITION SHOULD NOT DEMONISE PRESIDENT SATA. GOD BLESS…

    • chisenga yu need a reply from me because yu will mislead many Zambians.To start with the fall of the kwacha is a good indicator of the failing economy.which every Intelligent individuals can interpret it in many ways.There is trade imbalance meaning we export less than we import.Is this that yu call doing fine?when i we going to invesit in production as Zambians.How many Zambians Save money in banks for future use during retirement ,How many Zambians have health insurance schemes.To bring down to level of an average thinker,what is the percentage of Zambians living below the poverty line? Is not above 70%.what does this mean to yu ,yo children and Grand children so stop yaping.THINK FOR GENERATIONS TO COME NOT YO BELLY.

  14. The problem I have with some bloggers is generalizing issues just like HH. Do not always try to sound like you are speaking on behalf of all Zambians .Some of us are non partisan.like my mother would say, Zambian politics ma pwetete yeka yeka. Moral of the story is most of bloggers who despise PF were MMD beneficiaries , now that tables have turned they have nothing good to say about PF even when PF does well..Real talk

  15. UPND, you are cheating yourselves. Let the Sata rule. You began opposing the big man 2 days after he assumed power. Let him finish what he has started. As for me I will vote for PF. The construction and determination by the PF is none I have seen for the past 23 years. The more they insult Sata especially on ZWD, the more we like him because we know that the attacks are uncalled for.

  16. Start prepairing and stage managng your reactions afta the mighty cobra is declared winner in 2016.sober up and cme to terms wth the reality.online media wth its tonga blogers does nt represent any thng on the ground in rural areas.

    • What do you mean Tonga bloggers, you need to think beyond the tribe. but since you are at it, let us look at the tribe Sata is promoting. Every news item you listen will have a bemba director, PS, Minister, head of foreign mission, head of para-state owned institution, even experts in constitution drafting being bemba chiefs. In your thinking this makes all non bemba speaking people happy?, because you are happy with the kick-backs and the laptop you have been given…… think again.

    • Cobra declared winner in 2016? Will he even be able to campaign?Like a fullish tick you are sticking on to a dying mammal.

  17. If bloggers were the only ones that voted in 2011 UPND would have won.Nothing has changed in the manner people post comments.UPND said in 2011 that no single opposition political party would unseat MMD,the rest is history.

  18. UPND sympathisers should realise that PF has maintained it’s strong holds and it’s folly 2even suggest remotely that UNPD has made in-roads in PF strongholds.Watch the space and see how u’ll b shamed once more in 2016.Continue burrying your heads in the sand.

    • but you 1diot speaking from afar saying pf has maintained its strong hold, is copperbelt not its stronghold where they are now loosing? let them create a bye-election in Lusaka to see if their perceived stronghold is still standing. don’t just yap from the diaspora, am here with a voters card to cast out pf. things are rapidly changing on the ground, continue burying your head in sand. 3 years is short you will soon be recalled.

  19. The violence witnessed and perpertuated by PF thugs so far needs to be stopped.
    Let the Diplomatic corp advise government, maybe and maybe our government can listen, the church needs to conduct prayers. The Police needs to put up an amnesty for people to hand in guns, military uniforms, machetes and pangas. Assuming we have a Police Service.

  20. @Matipa.Use yo head 2reasond and not foul mouth.If u are a political analyst worth any salt and do a sincere projection of voting patterns 2016 u’ll realise that nothing much has changed.Where on urban CB do u think UPND can win an election.Even in Lsk,where is UPND going 2marshal votes 2win a parliamentary seat?Quit cheating yourself and be realistic!

    • PF is dead in Lusaka. Two PF MPs were recently declared persona non grata in Munali and Kanyama constituencies. Gerry Chanda and Nkandu Luo were chased away from their constituencies by voters. PF is finished in Lusaka. I voted for PF in 2011. And come 2016 I am not going to waste my vote on a party of violent Bemba supremacists.

    • @links1978, stop using your behind to think, use your head unless it has no brain. chililabombwe where UPND won is not rural as you want people to believe. am in the heart of copperbelt only die hard tribalists are refusing to acknowledge that UPND is come with a storm. you can not talk of pf in markets or stations. even the song ‘kuwayawayafye’ was composed and sung on the cfopperbelt. so wake up and be part of thr real change. don’t be like ‘konto’ sticking onto a dying dog be reminded that voting patterns are not constant.

  21. The tribal tag that Namakando Membe has been trying to use against HH will simply not work.The fools have messed up big time.Ubunga bwa dula.Fuel is more expensive than even in war torn countries.shame.Agriculture.ul never have a bumper harvest.Those talking tribalism.Is Kapita a Tonga or Dr canisius Banda?Inonge.Sata is the worst tribalist i have ever seen.His cabinet.Service chiefs,Foreign embassy officials are full of bembas.The bemba tok about HH being a tribalist is Shhiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.Ask RB he was being fooled that way and no one seemed to believe that a Bwezani would lose.He is now history.Sata’s will be worse.He who refuses to listen to the pipo,refuses their vote.No one wins a fight with the church,civil society,opposition.KK,Chiluba,RB lost popularity because these organisations

  22. @Zedian.Comments about PF even while in opposition hvnLt changed on online publications.Very few Zambians hv access and the luxury of time 2read what PF doom preachers say.Voters are those that are 2see schs,roads among others constructed and better pay 4civil servants and vendors trading in peace.I doubt if u voted 4PF in 2011.

  23. 2016 is coming and we will see how PF cadres will run away to Sudan and Cuba.

  24. MS MUTALE NALUMANGO says HH could not come along to Luapula because of pressing issues in Lusaka….

    Really! What urgent business was HH doing in Ndola WHICH held him back?

    Come 2016, ba HH ba kalila!

  25. UPEND and MMMD combined do not even have those numbers in mandevu. There is no defection but just rejoining the most POPULAR political party. There has never been a time when the prices of all essential commodities have recorded a reduction. Prices are always increasing and we are now used. Just find another campaign gimmick bwana HAHA because mealie meal prices will not help you.

  26. Zambians its only those who are blind who can dispute that PF Govt.is not working.The international community is very happy with the present Govt.Are you not surprised that British nationals in the United Kingdom are on our side in as afar as KCM saga is concerned.No single country has ever thought of isolating Zambia this clearly shows that we are highly favoured.Welldone PF you have my vote.

    HE Michael Sata has good plans for our lovely country he is not corrupt and has proved to be a man of action.

  27. TO TELL PEOPLE THAT PRICES OF COMMODITIES SHALL COME DOWN IS BEING DISHONESTY. They always go up. 10yrs ago, The price of fuel was/ltr. Today its $3. A 25kg of mealies was $1. Today its $5.

    Is HH telling us that his government will bring down commodity prices? God forbid!

    When I visited the following countries 10yrs, their currencies have fluctuated against the $ as follow:
    Britain was 1.2 today 1.7; Botswana was 1.10 today 9; South Africa was R3 today R11; Malaysia was 1.15 today 3.25; Singapore was 0.9 today 1.25; Nigeria was 110 to day 160.00; India was 25 today 60.

    Bwana HH, please don’t tell us utopian stories.

  28. I couldn’t believe Mr HH’s pomposity, the video showed the man running away from danger with his hands in the pocket.

  29. Since the PF party glorifies fraud-stars, it is very possible that this party could, in desperation, print fake opposition membership cards and stage-manage their so called defections. For instance consider (1) conviction of Masumba; (2) Mutembo Nchito having forded documents to Courts of Law.; and many more fraud-stars who have been honoured to lucrative positions in PF Govt. Anything is possible under the PF regime.

    But the PF regime cannot find a formula to fraudulently instal an illegal Chitimukulu in Kasama. This is the issue which will tear down the integrity of Sata for accepting to act on advice of Kabimba and Mmembe just to destroy GBM and the Bemba dynasty.

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