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Constitution parentage clause should be removed – Guy Scott

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VICE President Dr. Guy Scott
VICE President Dr. Guy Scott

Vice President Guy Scott says he was not campaigning for anyone when he said the amended 1996 constitution excluded Lusaka Mayor Mulenga Sata and Kabwata Member of Parliament Given Lubinda from standing for President because of their parentage.

Responding to a question by Kabwata Member of Parliament Given Lubinda during the vice president’s question time, who wanted to find out whether the office of vice president now has the authority to discuss people’s parentage and to declare which people qualify to hold public, Dr Scott said there was no hostility in his statement.

Dr Scott says he was merely explaining what the current situation is with the 1996 amended constitution when names of Given Lubinda and Mulenga Sata came to his mind.

He says the parentage clause in the constitution excludes a lot of people, adding that the amendment needs to be removed from the constitution.

Meanwhile the Oasis Forum says the PF Government should realize that the issue of enacting a new constitution will not die a natural death until the country has a supreme law that will stand the test of time.

Oasis Forum Chairperson Suzanne Matale says her organization is hopeful that government is listening to the plea of the people on the constitution.

Reverend Matale says the Zambian people want a new constitution before the 2016 general elections.

She states that the enactment of the country’s new constitution has actually been delayed and should have been completed by now.

Rev Matale has told Qfm News that this is because all that was supposed to be done before the constitution is enacted has already been done, hence the need to have the constitution enacted immediately.

58 COMMENTS

  1. When we have been demanding for a new constitution, you and your boss, Wynter have vehemently refused to heed our call. Why now? Are you smelling coffee Mr Scott?

    • In fact, there are so many things that needs to be either changed or removed from the current Constitution- However, if the current Constitution says that Mulenga Sata cannot stand because the mother is from Malawi, there is nothing to apologise about Dr Guy Scott- you were just making a statement of fact.

    • Iwe Gayi SIKOTI, just bring the ammendment motion to the floor as early as next week. You have the numbers in the house and am sure MMD and UPND will support it. Anybody else, but Kabimba will bring peace. I would rather have Guy Scott for President than that fake lawyer called Kabimba. Kabimba is a divisive character and destroyer the world hates it’s destroyers in whatever shape and form. Kabimba is haed both within PF and outside PF and how do you expect to build a legacy on such a character. Time for action is now

    • Guy scott is part of the cartel……….
      Truth be told; Things are not well in the country. Sata’s alleged trip to Israel is coiled in hoax-the rest is history. It’s a fact, Can another of Mr Tetamashimba’s type open the rot please. The flies are all over and PF are still hiding,WHY??? To our colleagues in uniform do the honourable thing to your country. Don’t allow the cartel TIME to hide the loot of THE EURO–BOND , the US $1billion BOND and the little cash left in the treasury .Mmembe and the cartel group are looters and are a danger to the country.

      Zambia is bigger than the cartel….We therefore call upon our colleagues in Uniform to do the needful in honour of your country-Truth be told!!!

    • Only NOW this STUPlD F00L has realised that PF has shot itself in the foot!

      I am falling out of my chair laughing at their STUPlDlTY!

      PF is really a bunch of SHEEP following a KING CABBAGE hoping to “fill their bellies”

      NEW CONSTITUTION NOW! Or is the headless chicken Kabimba still sitting on it like and egg!

      Total ANIMAL FARM!

  2. Yes remove that MMD amendment, in next session.
    I wouldn’t mind if Guy Scott was republican president, and Given Lubinda as vie-president.

    • @Nostradamus….You r right.
      I like mai Guy Scott the Doc is so Patriotic and has all to lead us. I can 2014% vote and DIE for him.

      We ve only 4 Presidential Materials
      1. Guy Scott.
      2. HH
      3.Lubinda &
      4. Chipimo

      The rest are useless. LETS THINK OF SOLUTIONS with Sata its already over BUT will b praying for him.

    • Same with me.I wouldnt mind him as president.This man is Zambian in and out.Its just the lack of melanin that makes him look different.

    • hmmm gentlemen. Scott president of zambia. techakwesha!!! . Call me what you will, but nope. I cannot desecrate the graves of our ancestors by mocking them with a white man overseeing the affairs of this country after hundreds of years of mischief, exploitation, pillage, plain thievery, murder etc, of our people for which they have never apologised. Chakana icho chena. Maybe after an apology is made can i start to consider this thought. We already blundered enough by making him number two, and thats as far as we should go!!!! A man who cant even speak any local language fluently becomes president? where and how? ninshi tuleposa intambi shesu which are very important for the preservation and identity of us as a people.

    • Guy Chikoti is Zambian ehee, but age bane, you want to make state House an old peoples home?

      If you look at the man carefully these days he shakes, that is as a result of age and excessive intake of beer.

    • iwe Nostradamus,,,,,, you dont mind `president` who?,,,,, Guy Scot is a brit!,,,, Today if there is a civil war or tribal war whatever,,, or even massive cholera outbreak,,, Guy Scot will be evacuated to UK,,no doubt!,,,,if you are taking Scot, give me KABIMBA anytime i will take,,,
      dont tell me about Obama,,, thats a mixed race bastard,,, mwana wa mu chingololo!,,, and give a BLACK prime minister in UK not mixed race,,, BLACK,,, i may think about Scot as a Zambia president,,, for now we keep the parentage clause

  3. Yeah yeah ………my Doc Guy Scott. We need you to Lead us to the Promised Land.

    This is the Great new I was waiting for. WE NEED A DELIVERER.
    We r indeed at the CROSSROADS. Ths is where u differentiate between Intelligentias & daft, courage & Idiocy and Heroes & Cowards.

    Honestly you r the ONE IN PF who can FEARLESSLY controll this impass.

    THIS IS THE WORST DILEMA IN HISTORY OF ANY NATION. A Deliverer is needed….!!

  4. just be honest Dr. you are campaigning for WK. you’ve declared the other 2 ineligible by your own statement and admission. anyway we will see if Kabimba can win any election. he has failed at ward, constituency but now you want to try him at presidential level! things are where we are going (fili ukotuleya)

  5. of course your honour we shuould working on those peace of regisletion which only favours selfish individuals

  6. just eat your humble pie muzung opusa. now that it directly affects you, you think it is appropriate to change the clause. we are calling for the wholesome change of the constitution including those clauses you loathe, let them be in too. then people can say you have done the right thing not just looking at self . rubbish muzungu and zayellow

    • Ni HH chabe no doubt.We want a succesfull Economist to manage our economy.mind you we have first to pay the Kaloba Euro bond.This time Zambians lets do the correct thing.

  7. I agree with you Sikote.It must be removed.It hurts me that because of it my Gyven Lubinda can`t be president.I want Gyven in state house.Similarly if misfortune was to befall Sata(like what these chaps in opposition are praying and hoping for) i would have loved you as interim president.

  8. Dr. Scott, Mr. M.C. Sata, Ms. Edith Nawakwi and others danced on the floor of the House when that discriminatory clause was passed in 1996. This was meant to bar KK, unfortunately it has come to haunt them. It should not be changed until most of these hypocrites have no energy to engage in politics. This is what happens when law is meant to punish a section of the society. Sata tasted his own medicine when he was locked up without any chance of bail for Motor vehicle theft. He is the one who proposed that law in order to punish Chiluba’s perceived enemies. Saddam Hussein was hanged on the same platform he designed to hang others. He who kills by the sword will die from it.

    • @ Mamen.

      You r right. If its like tht lets move. I ‘humbly’ withdrawn my support for mai Guy Scott.

      Its only UPND which will lead as to the Promised Land !!!.

      NO CHANGE OF CONSTITUTION until after Presidential bye-Elections.
      Viva UPND.

    • DR Guy Scott has confirmed that Sata is not coming back. Thats why he wants the Constitution to be ammended now so that he qualifies to stand as Presidential candidate

  9. This racist Zambian Veep just like his father Dr Alexander Scott who published his paper The Central African Post which was racial in content is a person who likes day dreamning he will cost the PF to lose upcoming elections if someone can’t tell him to ahut up for now.

  10. I thought this guy still remembers that he was part and parcel of that group of fools that amended this cluase coz they just wanted to bar KK?

  11. Old Scott has become irrelevant the the politics in Zambia. He and Mwembeshi Reject Wynter, are the most divisive politicians in this country. The two should not be anywhere near the corridors of power

  12. Melliodt K Mwango
    I agree.
    But for the Born Free (post September 30; 1964 Zambians) only up to the patrimonial/matrimonial dictates of Zambian cultural communities.
    For Scott (a historic heritage for those who do not know; he is a special dispensation. Must be Zambian without conditions. KK gave some foreigners full Zambian privileges. (Why not Scott?).
    I am saying that: Scott is our next interim President; because he is level-headed enough to deliver a real people’s driven constitution considering what his Dad did during the Federal era.

  13. It is actually borderline racism to have included that

    Please remove it

    My children will be mixed race i don’t want them to miss out

    Thanks

    • In case you were born last nite Mushota, it was included by Chiluba and his cohort Michael Sata (King Cabbage).

    • can you produce children from your butt? hahahahaha…… must be a new specie of animal. get a woman wanker, probably you can hook one from there to produce coloureds

    • To Bar Mr kaunda, so it was designed to bar certain persons they already knews they wanted to

      Remove it

      Thanks

  14. Follow medical advise and live longer if.Fidel Castro,hard liner dictator, left left power it’s becoz he was smart enough than Mwanawasa en Sata who succumb coz they r thick.

  15. GUY CHIKOTI
    YOU ARE JUST A SHORT SIGHTED “muBHUNU”
    As Kaodes used to say Mu Bhunu wabula kajo kafwako kumusebenzela ne.

  16. Good Ladies and Gentlemen: Address the problem of our modern-day Castle, at hand.
    The lord of the Manor is incapacitated. The Keepers are vying for power. What becomes of the Kingdom? This is the Question.

  17. Where was Scott when Chiluba, Sata and Co were doctoring the supreme Law to bar Kaunda? Now see how you and Sata have shot yourselves in the common foot! As for the Cobra, all bad laws he championed while MMD kingpin have always come back to hit him in the teeth: Public order act and unbailable car theft law, to name just two.

    Moral of the story: No matter your numbers in Parliament, never inact laws with ulterior motives: they never stand the test of time, and worse still, sooner than later, they catch up with you yourself. Time never fails to see you out of power!

    • @ Chalo Nkhanza, absolutely right.

      ANY bona fide Zambian Citizen should be eligible for ANY Office in the land.

      Anything else divides Zambians into 1st Class Citizens, 2nd Class Citizens……

      Discrimination. Pure and Simple.

  18. Nomba uleeba banani? you want the people to change the constitution? teimwe mwikala mu parliament? Nangu tufumye, iwe teti ube president not because of icikumba but ubupuba

  19. Eyi nyika ya Zambia, taili yama bbunu, njachikanda chini chini china moonze, njachikanda chisiya. Guy Scot President? akaka nobantu, is this what KK and others fought for? Zambians low esteem, no wonder Scot insults you…

  20. Let this clause remain in our constitution, lest our children get ruled by Burundis or Rwandans. There should also be a clause included in the constitution that foreigners should only have one child in Zambia. The Rwandans and Burundis are having bables every year in Zambia.

  21. pity you saying that now mister Scot; you should have looked into it before you were made ceremonial vice president and used to hob nob to all the traditional leaders and do all the dirty jobs and sing praises to the president. LOL

  22. Scott did not design the constitution to make himself VP. The appointing authority dully made him. No one protested . Now we must implement the constitution. He should have been fired; but he is still substantive.
    Good people; think!

  23. Its true that the clause was discriminating aiming at barring Kaunda. Little did Sata know that his children from Ms Manda former headteacher at Kamwala high School would not be eligible. these offsprings happen to include our mayor of lusaka

  24. I can’t believe some of you *****s are saying Guy Scott is Presidential material, God forbid, if you want a musungo choose Roy Clark instead at least Kalaki is honest ..there are other people I believe such as Edward Lungu despite his alleged shortcomings. Mulenga Sata is also a much better candidate in my opinion that is if and only if there is a need. As things stand we have a President in place.

  25. It is interesting to note some of the names being suggested as presidential material. Zambians NEVER learn lessons and you will see us making another more fatal mistake. Mark my words

  26. Yes I strongly agree to that. The 1996 parentage clause excludes alot of important and intelligent people who are capable of taking this nation forward. Go ahead and scrap it.

  27. I WONDER WHY THIS CLAUSE IS THERE, ANYWAY. CAN’T WE GO THE US WAY. IF USA HAD SUCH DISCRIMINATORY CLAUSES IN THEIR CONSTITUTION OBAMA WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE US of A. WE HAVE IN ZAMBIA REAL CITIZENS LIKE GUY SCOTT HIMSELF- WHY SHOULDN’T THAT CLAUSE BAR GUY SCOTT FROM BECOMING PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA. EVEN THEN MANY ZAMBIANS NOW HAVE INTER MARRIED ACROSS COUNTRIES AND CONTINENTS ARE SAYING THOSE CHILDREN’S OFF SPRINGS WILL NOT BE ZAMBIANS? THAT’S WHY ZAMBIANS TODAY WHO LIVE ABROAD/OVERSEAS ARE SO BADLY DISCRIMINATED WITH THEIR CHILDREN AT AIRPORTS AND OFFICES IN ZAMBIA BECAUSE OF SUCH CLAUSES.

  28. So Guy Scott voted for a bill that would in the future bar him from being president of Zambia hahahahaha the Irony. hind sight 20/20.

    • It is so hilarious I am still laughing a day later!

      It proves the saying “what goes around, COMES AROUND”

      In so many things, these PF CL0WNS have managed to shoot themselves in the foot, they are now ‘running’ out of feet to shoot themselves in!

  29. Zambians dont stop to amaze me,,of all. People gay. Scotch as president. There are n
    No young Zambians to take over from old. and. Clueless. Folks

  30. WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH SHORT TERM PERSONAL CONSCIOUSNESS MENTALITY CONCERNING THE CONSTITUTION. THE HEAD OF STATE IS A SEALING TO SOVEREIGNTY. DON’T PANIC WITH POWER AND ASSUME CONSTITUTION MUST BE CHANGED EVERY 10 YEARS. ENJOY YOUR PRESENT POWER; DON’T INSINUATE POSTERITY. 50 YEARS – ” GOD’S FAVOUR FOR ZAMBIA; ZAMBIANS – PROSPERITY; HUMAN CAPITAL; HEALTH; WEALTH

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