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Youth NGO wants law to end to discrimination against gays and lesbians in Zambia

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Germany Ambassador to Zambia Bernd Finke to part of youths who had displayed placards denouncing homosexuality outside Kapiri mposhi court
FILE:Germany Ambassador to Zambia Bernd Finke to part of youths who had displayed placards denouncing homosexuality outside Kapiri Mposhi court

A Lusaka based Non Governmental Organisation, Zango Youth Consortium has petitioned the Legal and Justice Sector Reforms Commission to come up with a law that will put an end to discrimination against gays and lesbians in Zambia.

Consortium Chairperson Kaimbo Katengo told the Commission this morning that Zambian citizens who are practicing homosexuality in the country have suffered discrimination for merely belonging to the minority group which he said should be enshrined in the penal code to protect them.

Mr. Katengo explained that all Zambian citizens should be treated equally regardless of their sexual orientation and wondered why the Judiciary has not come out to help the minority group who include the homosexuals.

He disclosed that a research that he undertook has discovered that homosexuality is being practiced in Zambian Secondary Schools and Universities by both students and lecturers.

He narrated that he had witnessed the homosexually practice when he was at Kafue Boys Secondary School and when he was at the University of Zambia where he disclosed that even some lectures had affairs with fellow male students.

He praised the schools authorities at Kafue Boys Schools for protecting boys who practiced homosexuality saying the same could be done at the national level.

Mr. Katengo who spoke so passionate about same sex relations said most Zambians have learned to accept homosexuality except for a few people who hold instruments of power who he said are violating the rights of the minority in Zambia.

He added that even the punishment for people convicted on charges of homosexuality which stands at minimum of 14 years should be reduced as it is too long saying gay rights in Africa is not alien as it has existed for many years including during Christ’s time.

He however stated that his organisation was not advocating for a normless society but merely want all citizens to be treated as equal beings before the law with full human rights.

But Director of Public Prosecution Mutembo Nchito noted that despite homosexuality not being a crime according to the laws of Zambia, it is against societal norms and also against the declaration of the nation as a Christian nation.

He said because of its conflict with the societal norms and values of the country, homosexuality is deemed unnatural in Zambia just like incest and bestiality saying a line should be clearly be drawn.

The Homosexual petition sent the house into mixed facial reactions with commissioners and the public who attended the sittings shaking their heads while others holding their chins in what looked like a shocking matter.

Recently a Kapiri Mposhi magistrate court acquitted two people on allegations of homosexuality which was widely published in the local media.

Another Lusaka man caused laughter in the council chamber when he submitted that there should not be regulation to the trading hours of liquor in Zambia as doing so is against human rights and also against the declaration of Zambia as a liberal economy.

Mr. Mutonga noted that drunkards should be consulted when making laws noting that non alcohol consumers have made laws to disadvantage those that drink alcohol.

And Mr. Mtonga has appealed to the commission to consider reviewing the laws to remove the Public Order Act and allow people to enjoy both the freedom of movement and expression.

But Commission Chairperson Frederick Chomba explained that limiting liquor trading hours is meant to allow people to engage into meaningful economic activities and not be drinking the whole day and night.

He said Zambia should not be turned into a country of drunkards in the name of upholding human rights or trying to please everyone.

The Commission started its public sittings today in Lusaka and about 11 petitioners appeared.

58 COMMENTS

    • These Gay activists are very aggressive and they need to be met with the same level of aggressiveness or even more by everyone who believes in Traditional Marriage, good culture and has the fear of the Lord. Gays and lesbianists make only 2% of the population of the USA (CDC website) but when you look at how they have managed to play the victim role and change laws because good people have not been doing anything. Kudos to Uganda. We love them as Christians but we do not accept the abominations.

    • The Gay activists are very aggressive and need to be met with the same aggressiveness or even more by those who believe in traditional marriage, good culture and has the fear of the Lord. Gays and lesbianist only make 2% of the USA population , they have played the victim role and have changed laws. Kudos to Uganda who has stood up for righteousness. We love them but we detest and will not accept the abominations.

    • Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID) was the name first proposed in 1982 to describe an “unexpected cluster of cases”[1] of what is now known as AIDS,[2] after public health scientists noticed clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and pneumocystis pneumonia among gay males in Southern California and New York City.[1]During the early history of AIDS, when it was considered a disease of homosexual men, at least one physician suggested that male homosexuals reconsider the practice of engaging in anonymous sex.[3] wikipedia.

    • An ad hoc organization called Gay Men’s Health Crisis was founded to combat what appeared to be a homosexual-only disease produced by sexual promiscuity or the use of intravenous drugs or poppers. Soon after, clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and Pneumocystis pneumonia were also reported among Haitians recently entering the United States[4] and hemophiliacs, among female sexual partners of AIDS patients, and among blood transfusion recipients with no other obvious risk factors. Wikipedia

    • The term AIDS (for acquired immune deficiency syndrome) was proposed later in 1982[5] by researchers concerned with the accuracy of the disease’s name. In this new name, scientists were supported by political figures who realized that the term “gay-related” did not fully encompass the demographics of the disease. On April 23, 1984, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary announced at a press conference that the probable cause of AIDS had been discovered: the retrovirus that was subsequently named human immunodeficiency virus or HIV in 1986.

    • These NGOs are really annoying.
      All those youths can’t just get a job as primary school teachers, and then do their thing in classrooms? Worsting time in streets, even that Pamela Chisanga should get a job as primary school headteacher.

  1. what rights can a sane govt give to *****s like homosexuals ,rights to pervert society to practice stupidity,

    am not getting well the point the DPP muntembo nchito says that homosexuality is not a crime what does he mean ,gays are perverts, i can not imagine going in a gents toilet helping oneself only to find a homosexual also uses those facility thinking that they are normal males and yet they admire other males urinating, stupid life indeed.

    these perverts should desire delivererance from the church than advocating to consolidate and resist change their life style.

    ponorgraphy and social media is escalating this scurge ,zambian government should never ever contamplate to give an ear to this stupid behaviour.

    women are there why should males chase another males .what is…

    • Gay and bisexual men are more severely affected by HIV than any other group in the United States.Among all gay and bisexual men, black/African American gay and bisexual men bear a disproportionate burden of HIV.Source CDC, Centers for Disease and Control USA.

    • Gay, bisexual, and other men who have sex with men (MSM)a represent approximately 2% of the United States population, yet are the population most severely affected by HIV. Source CDC, Centers for Disease and Control USA.

  2. It is really unbelievable to see what’s happening in the world nowadays. We have surely reached the tenth stage of evil, as someone once said. Things that used to happen in the dark are now being proclaimed in the open.

    How can a normal human being fail to see that man to man and woman to woman is an unbalanced equation? This way of life has never brought happiness in any nation. Those who are supporting it do not have the good of the nation at heart. When our leaders fail to stand firm and embrace it, they will only create a shamelessness and depraved society with millions of people caught up in total confusion. I hope we will follow Uganda’s example and reject it by parliamentary mandate.

    • In 2011, in the United States, gay and bisexual men accounted for 79% of 38,825 estimated HIV diagnoses among all males aged 13 years and older and 62% of 49,273 estimated diagnoses among all persons receiving an HIV diagnosis that year.Source CDC, Centers for Disease and Control USA.

    • These NGO’s and advocates are very selfish already Southern Africa has a high percentage of Hiv/Aids, we do not need it to sky rocket and also be a reproach to our God. Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to ant people. We love them but will not bow to abominations.

  3. Hatred and violence to these groups is wrong. However that can adequately be dealt with current laws of bodily harm, harrrassment etc. Zambia has high numbers of HIV positive people, it is not correct for international bodies to see the problem as one of discrimination. It is a fact that recent statistics in USA and Europe showed an INCREASE in new cases of HIV among the freely open gay communities. The stand of Zambia is based on that very real fact that we may not cope. Our statistics in comparison to those above, seem to show, our numbers are in decline. Zambia must be firm on this, we cannot help our youth to die young because the West want to intimidate us by accusations of Human Rights Abuse, we have laws protecting bodily harm or abuse for whatever reason which Gays can use.

  4. God gave everyone of us either a hole or a plug for a reason.Two plugs or two holes ain’t supposed to work together,its unnatural and very unafrican.We don’t want this western pervertion allowed into our culture.

    • A woman is twice as likely to catch the virus from an infected partner in a heterosexual relationship than a man is.And homosexual men are at even greater risk. They’re more than 20 times as likely to get infected from an HIV-positive partner than partners in a heterosexual relationship.

    • Only the strongest, most evolutionary “fit” versions of the virus tend to infect a man when he has sex with an HIV-positive woman, scientist report Thursday in the journal Science.Different parts of the body provide various levels of protection from the virus.

    • Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) rights in Africa are limited in comparison to many other areas of the world. The International Gay and Lesbian Association estimated in 2008 that homosexuality was outlawed in 38 African countries, and in at least 13 African countries, homosexuality was legal or there were no laws pertaining to it.[1]

    • Same-sex sexual activities between adults have never been criminalised in Burkina Faso, Central African Republic, Chad, Republic of the Congo, Côte d’Ivoire, Democratic Republic of Congo, Gabon, Madagascar, Mali, Niger, and Rwanda.[2] Wikipedia

    • Since 2011, some first world countries have been considering or implementing laws that limit or prohibit general budget support to countries that restrict the rights of homosexuals.[3] In spite of this, many African countries have refused to consider increasing LGBT rights,[4] and in some cases have drafted laws to increase sanctions against LGBT people.[5]

  5. Kabiyeni kusukulu bangwele.
    Where are your parents mwe bana.
    Why are African minors easily accessible by foreigners, while you cannot even say hello to a Western child without being suspected to be a paedophile?

    Keep our kids from these corrupt so called diplomats.

    These people skirt around issues involving powerful nations and experiment with Africa.

    Tell them to go away.

    • Many African leaders feel that gay rights are against their cultural and religious value systems and believe they have a sovereign right to reject what they see as an imposition by mainly Western nations, which attempts to affect national sentiment via aid.

  6. Charlie Kays Mwango & his chi pot belly Sambamulopa decide to take a trip to Israel. While they are there, abena Charlie unfortunately passes away. So Sambamulopa calls for the undertaker to get him ready for his burial back in Chitulika Pwaa! The undertaker says, “Well Doc, if you decided to ship him back to Muchinga its going to cost you $50,000, but if you want we can bury Charlie here for only $150”. So Sambamulopa thinks about it & finally she says to the undertaker, “well, you know what, I think I’m going to have to send hIM back to Chitulika. I’ll pay the $5,000″. The undertaker says, are you sure ma’am? That’s a lot of money to spend” Sambamulopa goes, “Yeah I remember reading a story of some man dying & being buried here, three days later he rose again &…

    • In Mauritania, Sudan, and northern Nigeria, homosexuality is punishable by death. In Uganda, Tanzania, and Sierra Leone, offenders can receive life imprisonment for homosexual acts. In addition to criminalizing homosexuality, Nigeria has enacted legislation that would make it illegal for straight family members, allies and friends of the LGBT to be supportive.

    • According to Nigerian law, a straight ally “who administers, witnesses, abets or aids” any form of gender non-conforming and homosexual activity could receive a 10-year jail sentence.[10] South Africa’s constitution has the most liberal attitudes toward gays and lesbians, with a constitution which guarantees gay and lesbian rights, and legal same-sex marriage.

    • South Africa needs prayers and need their laws to be overturned only 10% of the population is gay. When good people do nothing evil thrives.

  7. I have just realized that some Mega phones like WANZELU, do not participate in more technical debates here! hahahaha

  8. 1. “But Director of Public Prosecution Mutembo Nchito noted that despite homosexuality not being a crime according to the laws of Zambia, it is against societal norms?

    HOW DID ADAM AND EVE GET THEIR GRANDCHILDREN?

    2. “ Against the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation.”

    LEST OUR CHILDREN BE MISLED. THE DECLARATION OF ZAMBIA AS A so-called CHRISTIAN NATION WAS MADE MY ONE MAN, CHILUBA, UNDER THE INFUELUENCE OF WINE, AT A FUNCTION AT MULUNGUSHI HALL TO CELEBRATE HIS ELECTRION 1991. DOES A CHRISTIAN PRESIDENT, IN A CHRISTRIAN NATION / SOCIETY GRAB SOMEONE’S WIFE? WHICH SOCIETAL NORMS WAS HE PROTECTING!

  9. I wish Africans got as riled up about corrupt leadership, as they did over gay people. The former hurts everyone, the latter hurts no one.

  10. our parliament should wake up quickly and seal our laws and tighten like our uganda brothers against gays .

    my guess is that this PF government with people like DPP ,the justice ministry, the parliament being manned by a cartel may plunge this country into dirty legalising homosexuals.

    i still have a strong feeling and conviction that that interview which was conducted before election to mr sata by those foreigners about gay rights may be still active in the programmes of this government to implement, just look and observe the casual comment of our DPP on this matter.

    The kapiri mposh gay trial and verdict was finalised when our president was out and the person who was acting was justice minister, who happen to running the very cry of our laws.

    this PF GOVERNMENT is…

  11. Leviticus 18:22 NIV

    “ ‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

    • All you are. Saying bad things about gays, bisexuals and Lesbians read these verses in your Bibles Luke 6:37 , 1 John1:10, James 2:10, 1 Peter 1:8 , John 3:16, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians5:19, Galatians 5:21 am not perfect and am not righteous. So if you know this, you will know where you stand. And I belive you know and heard tyis before.

  12. I wonder if he would have been standing there had the mum or dad been lesbian or homosexual. Utter nonsense. May be we should also come with a law against discriminating thieves (not sending them to prison) since they are human. Ifyakukopa kopa only because you need monetary support is unacceptable.

  13. katengo, are u gay. if u were at kafue boys and unza respectively , and witnessed gayism. you must be a suspect yourself. now know katengo, u just acquired this by yourself. you were not born that way. if you were, then thieves are also born thieves. alas, its not so. you can stop it. find counsellors in lusaka who can help you. its illegal and sin. ba katengo, if gaysim is legailsed , then stealing, corruption and protitution must be legalised. this is because they are also practised in zambia. the penal code must also be diluted so that such acts are legal

  14. Zambia a Christian nation is slowly turning into Sodom & Gomora right before our eyes and we are justifying it. For this very reason Sodom and & Gomora were destroyed. Lord have mercy. BLESSED IS A NATION WHO’S LORD IS GOD.

  15. Ubupuba tatulefwaya mu Zambia. The person advocating for this nonsense is forgetting that he is a product of the union of man and woman which God in his infinite wisdom ordained. Let us not accept silly things just because others are doing them. Legalizing homosexuality is stooping below the level of dogs. I have never seen a male dog having sex with a male dog or a female dog having sex with a female dog and yet they are dogs. And as dogs they know how to use their production organs. Yet man in whose care these animals were put is stooping very low. What a shame!

  16. It is bad to be poor because you can accept anything imposed on you by some body who promises or gives you money. We as Africans, in particular as Zambians, not even a single day did we hear of people of same sex wedding because it is unnatural and unheard of. It is really shameful for an individual or group of individuals with sound thinking to go for such activities that are not in the natural set up of normal being! That is satanic thinking!!!

  17. That young man advocating for gay and lesbianism, Am sure is not a Zambian. He has just come to confuse us. Let him get back to where he has come from. We don’t need their money attached to dirty activities. Dogs of same sex will never make a mistake to have sex, what about a human being who has been created in the image of God! Have we lost our direction or it is just poverty that is controlling us to accept such evil practices!!!! Chatala sile!!!

  18. Agents of doom! You shall reap a full reward when the Lord comes to judge the world. Next you shall be demanding the legalization of bestiality and incest.

  19. This Zango Youth Consortium should be closed. Cage this Katengo. He is a homo himself. Cage and and let him spend some time in prison where this vice is practised. this vice is unnatural to our culture and don’t allow American & EU aid to change our laws. They won’t even allow polygam by Africans in their lands. why accept their unnatural practice. poverty is a curse. viva Uganda. Viva uncle Bob.

  20. Imagine every zambian was a pervert, gay or lesbian, fifty years from now zambia would extinct. There would be no zambia.

  21. Katengo Kaimbo you are a fool!! zambia is a Christian naton and the Almighty God hates homosexuality. Sodom and Gomora were destroyed for committing the same sin your are supporting. Your are cursed!! may God deliver you.

  22. Gay Rights and Human rights.
    Is there any researcher who has conducted a research to show us why there are many posters in Lusaka advertising on PENIS ENLARGEMENT and other sexual boaters? Maybe some people are being disadvantaged in the sexual life hence they may prefer same sex marriage not as a new life style, but as a desire to have a partner who may accept their condition.
    Have time to attend church (pentecostal) overnight prayers and be amazed at how women are praying and fasting to God for intervention so that they may have Children to save their marriages.
    These are ancient challenges that science or religion seem to have few answers why a man may prefer to have another man as a wife.
    let us not rush into condemning such acts but find out the WHY WHY WHY……

  23. Katengo, are you gay, if you are please do not pollute our children , go and take your gay thing to westerners please

  24. Katengo, are you gay?, please do not pollute our children, take your gay thing to westerners. 14 years, is less, put it 20 years for these fools. Not on our ground mother Zambia. Thanks

  25. we should then have laws to protect murderers, thieves and other vices. The consequences of sodomy are clearly stated in the bible. Read Leviticus chapter 18 and chapter 20. We can’t rewrite the bible to suit the will of the West and those who feed from them.

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