Former President Rupiah Banda has revealed that he held talks with UPND President Hakainde Hichilema after his 2011 election defeat with a view of forming a coalition government.
Mr Banda disclosed that the talks which extensively progressed collapsed after MMD President Nevers Mumba insisted that the coalition be headed by a younger President.
He said he objected to Dr Mumba’s suggestion that he be given the role of a Statesman once the coalition formed government.
The Former President revealed this Thursday evening at Southern Sun Hotel during a public discussion organised by the Press Freedom Committee of the Post Newspapers.
‘I am a Diplomat myself and i don’t like revealing information which i received in confidence but i want to say that yes i did meet HH on a number of occasions and we agreed to work together. I told him that people are requesting that we come together and save this nation from the misery that the PF had brought,’ Mr Banda said.
[pullquote]If you tell me am too old to be President, I will tell you that you are too young to be President and that creates a problem.
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He added, ‘ We wanted a coalition government because we realised we needed to come together for us to stand a chance of removing this government but what i know is that Dr Mumba made it difficult for this thing to work because he insisted that only a younger President should lead it.’
Mr Banda continued, “I told him that am the one with the majority people in the MMD and therefore is should lead this thing. Can you imagine him telling to step aside? I was in politics much earlier than him and his predecessor. I tell him, are you serious? Do you really want to go and win this election?”
He said he reacted bitterly to suggestions that he should be made into a Statesman and leave politics for young people.
“How can he ask me to step aside and become a Statesman when am already a Statesman. You can’t change the fact that RB is a Statesman because I earned it, I worked for it.”
Mr Banda also indicated that he is still willing to enter into a genuine alliance with the UPND for the forthcoming election and vacate State House in 2016 to allow for much younger President.
“If you tell me am too old to be President, I will tell you that you are too young to be President and that creates a problem. Dr Mumba came and told me that Zambians have decided that they will now vote for a younger President, I asked him, how do you know that Zambians want a young President when we have not even voted yet?”
Mr Banda said he is confident he will win the election because Zambians have realised that his administration was far much better than the PF.
He said his administration scored a number of achievements in the three years he was President in areas of infrastructural development, overall economic management and poverty reduction.
Mr Banda he was convinced to return to active politics after numerous requests from Zambians from all walks of life to come back and stabilise the nation.
“I was away in South Africa nursing my sick wife for five months a number of people followed me there and told me they want me back. I reflected upon it and agreed in order to restore this country on a path it ought to be.”
He also criticised the manner in which the PF government has handled the issue of the wage freeze imposed on the civil service.
“You will remember that we also had a wage freeze during my time but this agreed with the unions. We gave them a 25 percent hike in one particular year and we agreed that for the following two years there shall not be any wage increment. The beauty about that is that we agreed on a roundtable with the unions. It was not unilateral like our friends have done. It is unfair for the workers,” he said.
Mr Banda also promised to cut the new retirement age from 65 to 55 once elected into office.
Spare us your crap old man. Once beaten twice shy…
We’ll go it alone as UPND. Thanks but no thanks your Exellency RB. Rest assured we’ll restore your benefits when we form government and hold you in high esteem. Just campaign for HH and sign a MoU with HH to have your MPs crossover.
People who voted for RB in 2011 are most likely going to vote for him agai, because he has not done anything to change their minds. People who voted for HH may also vote for him again. The people who voted for Sata are the ones who will have tdecide on someone else. RB lost to Sata by 120000 votes. If the Sata vote was split 3 ways between Lungu, HH and RB, RB will be the winner. RB lost to Sata, not to HH, therefore its is HH who must benefit from Sata’s death, otherwise, RB or Lungu win.
Ba RB nimwe chizende!
Just take MMD back with you into retirement.
From that conversation between the 2, I would say Mumba made more realistic demands and suggestions than Mr Banda.
Thanks
BB2014
Somebody had to fill the vacuum Nevers Mumba created in MMD. His failure to lead the party was the cause for RB’s return.
I dont believe leadership should have an age limit. This is discrimination. People should be voted into office because of their capacities, be it brain or otherwise. RB was right to answer Nevers the way he did. Let the votes talk. If people really wanted a young president why has HH always come third to old people? Nawakwi, Chipimo both young people performed very badly in the last elections. So where do we get this young people syndrome thing? Leadership has no age caveat? And Nevers should know better. What happened to Solomon’s son in the old testament who wanted his fellow young people to rule? What was the result? I am a young person but I do not believe we should be made to vote on the basis of age, gender, tribe or education. We are all equal under the law.
@ The Saint, brief but succint analysis. Logical conclusion. RB will win.
@ The Saint
I have to agree with you there. We want a young leader quite alright and HH fits the profile but he has to listen to what people are saying, especially ‘old’ people like RB because what the old man is saying makes sense even if people are insulting him. The Copperbelt vote is split between MMD and PF, if HH is to be president, he needs this vote and what RB is telling him is not so difficult to swallow.As a matter of fact, after proving himself to be a good leader, he won’t need MMD after 2016. Let him accept this marriage of convenience for now, come 2016, we will support him all the way. Now, HH camp, please insult me coz I know you will but its sound advice.
“Mr Banda also indicated that he is still willing to enter into a genuine alliance with the UPND for the forthcoming election and vacate State House in 2016 to allow for much younger President.”
TWAIBA AGAIN. DON’T BE CHEATED RB’s AMBITIONS THIS TIME AROUND IS (1) TO BRING HENRY BACK AND FREE HIM WITHOUT TRIAL, AND ALSO FREE THE OLDER ONE WHO IS NOT EVEN IN JAIL, (2) TO TO STILL FOR GOOD AS HE HAS ONLY FEW YEARS TO LIVE, BIOLOGICALLY.
Iwe Bwezani, is Zambia ziko ya nyoko where you come and lead anytime you want?
I don’t trust RB. In 2008 after the demise of LPM (MHSRIP), RB declared that he just wanted to finish of the remainder of the term and retire in 2011. What happened! He had to stand again and be made to retire. What makes him think he can be trusted again? Not that he’s going to win but he’s got serious trust issues.
You trust this shameless old man at your peril. I listened to him at this discussion and left in disgust as this old man has nothing to offer. He appears not to have been chastened after his defeat and came out as arrogant as he used to be in office. If he led a coalition now, I can assure he will not step aside in 2016. He is a very greedy and selfish character.
@deeper thinker, he would not contest the 2016 election as he would have done his two terms allowable by our constitution. Not that I want a coalition Govenment.
That is why I don’t think RB is serious when he says he will retire in 2016. Its a blue lie.
The gift that keeps on giving. Can’t make up my mind whether this reads like a ‘kiss and tell’ or it is a fascinating deep insight in to how a very old brain works…
This is one of those rare times when I will bite my tongue until it bleeds…
The truth is that RB is not dull, he has realised that HH and the UPND are much more popular now than him and his MMD party. What he is trying to do therefore is to ride on UPND and HH’s back to gain what is giving him sleepless nights…the Zambian presidency. Trust me he is not doing it for anyone else’s benefit but himself. He has been tried before, what did he do for the country?
Well, UPND it is up to you. If you want to see how Zambians will discard you like rubbish, go along with selfish entities like RB, you will soon be forgotten n PF regardless of their miserable failures will get it on a silver platter because nobody will be perceived to be caring enough for the Zambian people at large.
Quite evidently, you did not get it. Look RB, what you are saying is that you did not accept defeat. HH does not need a cloud over him, he is doing just fine. Retire, maintain dignity. We may not know who will win this election, but what we all know is that you are coming in third!
PF thugs are beating every body wearing opposition tee shirts in bus stops. Please get the names or identities of the PF thugs doing this so that when the commission will be appointed in 2015 to look at PF violence theses chaps can appear. And remember this wont be a truth and reconciliation commission, this will be a punishment commission.
@Kamweni, those are licks of a dying horse. Goodbye PF, Rest in Peace.
Nga baletumpa kuba ponona fye!
Sir, I respect your wish but I feel it is time for the young generation. HH should lead the coalition and not you.
Please stop this, you had your time ,and it is now over!
RB is not genuine. Why not back HH and UPND then, or better allow the younger Nevers and HH lead the coalition and provide guidance? What is left for him to prove?
I thought that is what RB was talking about, that the younger ones could not agree among themselves. You missed the point? Read on and between the lines if you want to understand state politics, you young ones.
Super Cadre you are the one who missed a point.
So HH is a chief of coalitions in zambia?its like UPND under HH has approached each and every party to enter into an alliance though it has to be headed by himself!for sure HH is under 5 politician who cant stand on his own!anyway 2011 results confirm that HH cant win alone but joining hands with RB cant happen bcoz both want to be on top.so its still Edgar Lungu alone to win 2015 elections!
Makes sense, the only sense in this confused era of youthful leaders whose main preoccupation is that time has come “to enjoy themselves” and not in service of their country.
The old man is sick, how can he compare himself to HH’s popularity today!! Old age can be a big problem indeed!!
That’s the point @ point 11, he knows that the young man HH is currently more popular that him, but he want to muzzle that from him nicely, thinking that HH is sleeping.
God is watching and he will serve this Nation from collapse.IT IS NOW CHRISTIANS VS MOSLEM S
My friend, democracy is not about God’s wish, it is about the wish of the people. God creates a framework where people have free will. Zambia is far from any collapse.
RB which people from all walk of life asked to come back to active politics? Please listen to words of wisdom, you do not know the meaning of statesman please. The people you are referring to are the ones who had nothing to do in South Africa. When they got tired of window shopping they remembered that there is an old man who cannot make a decision on his own and that the way the cheated you. Ati statesman…
Lord Voldermort,
Ever heard of the saying that the voice of the people is the voice of God?
Never heard the saying but I do not say that to dismiss your opinion. So in effect, what I take from you is that the direction that people will vote is the direction of God? I really think it is hard to determine God’s position in such matters that require free will. In cases where elections are rigged, is that the wish of God?
Boza RB Wenye, Ulabeja, Wapuma, Bupela, Lies in the moring,Lies at noon and Lies at night. just go back and attend to your court cases and prove your innocence. Tell us where is Henry, Peter Daka and Kachingwe. How do you hope to win without William Banda, VJ and Mukombwe. Mwai taya kaleza!
Lord Voldermort,
A rigged election cannot be a reflection of the voice of God. It is a reflection of the voice of the “rigger”. It is the “rigger’ whose voice is heard in a rigged election. But when an election is free and fair and the people’s voice is one that is reflected we can safely talk about the voice of God. God speaks thru people who reflect his will through their actions and not their will.
Just go it alone dear and see how unpopular you’ve become. This is a game of chess now. Electrical Regionalisation will characterise this election and believe you me, every vote will count.
HH is in a far better position to bag this if Lusaka, Central and Copperbelt gives him votes because Southern is a no go zone for Lungu and RB which will leave them to scramble for Northern and Eastern votes. The divisions in PF and MMD will be a factor in this election.
Therefore if HH doesn’t win this one, he must do a honourable thing and man-up, resign and let someone give UPND a facelift of Zambianism unlike Tonganism.
strategic campaigning is therefore key I this election. Don’t put all your eggs I one basket, have targeted provinces to maxim your chances.
The problem with HH supporters is how they tend to shift support. When RB lost and Sata came in, RB was hailed as the President of all Zambians who they wished was in charge. Now that he wants to stand, he is a bad man. Before Guy Scott assumed his new role he was insulted left, right and centre and called “Muzungu wopusa”. When they saw he was undermining Edgar Lungu, they started cheering him on and became their hero. You guys confuse with the basis for supporting people.
He wants to cut the new retirement age from 65 to 55, yet he claims he’s not for young people ruling!! Double standards. We all know your motive: to free your thieving son, continue with where u left, globe-trotting (Kamwendo-Munjila).
Has the money henry stole finished so soon? Loot from supplying the country for 3-months with fuel while forcing Indeni on permanent shut-down. NXAAAH!!!! Sakala-Nyongos
This faggot is really delusional. How on earth does he think that a true zambian can vote for him, honestly? Let him explain the K2bn found buried under one of his cronies’ farm in Lusaka West. Let him explain the lavish unnecessary expenditure on the 2011 election campaign? Shame on this OLD man for thinking that he is worth even 1 term in office as President of Zambia. Remember we voted you out, what the hell do you want, just go look after you baby mama in hospital. Andrew sounds much mature that the father, maybe just maybe if it was Andrew talking, maybe we would reconsider. Get off OLD man, time waster!
I think the term ‘statesman’ is being bandied about very loosely.
“…was convinced to return to active politics after numerous requests from Zambians from all walks of life to come back…”
“…a number of people followed me there (SA) and told me they want me back..”
‘All walks of life’ people do not usually fly to South Africa to request an old guy to come back and stabilize the nation!
RB go home…
i will also cut the presidential age from 75 to 60
RB thinks Zambians are fools. So you want a pact with UPND and stand as president and stepdown in 2016? So he wants to become a president for one year? Come on RB, we are not fools, why should you become a president for one year, and why is it important for you lead for one year?
HH is the only one able to provide thought leadership to inform our country’s economic development agenda.
Listen to his campaign messages how he will turn around the economy by mobilizing stakeholders to partner for economic growth and development, creating an enabling regulatory environment and stimulating business practices that promotes inclusive economic growth, enhancing the competitive advantage of key sectors of the economy, promoting and attracting trade and investment to the economy,…
promoting and attracting trade and investment to the economy, directing investment into strategic economic infrastructure and proactively linking communities to economic opportunities.
This is the man we need now not you RB who studied Economic History in 1960.
Where will a pre-independence degree in Economic History take Zambia to? Outdated leader and knowledge!
It is stronger considered good advice to listen to elders such as RB. At this point though RB is out of touch with the world evolving around him.
Surely do we need RB with a 1960 degree in Economic History to lead this country? Please give us a break from these redundant leaders.
At this time younger generations such as HH, Mumba, Sampa, and others should be given space to step up and take the lead. For this…
For this reason RB should just retire.
No need to resign for HH he must keep on going even if he does not get the 20/01/2015.It is Flight HH2015 to 2035
No matter what Nevers did, the man sacrificed his time , body and generally his leisure for the sake of mmd life continuity. But for the treatment he has received from his party, posterity will not judge the party well I am sure. The party should be bleeding of anguish now until the right thing is done, give back leadership to Nevers to fail on his own. what ever goes up comes round. difficult time indeed.
Lies from Rupiah, these are the allies that HH is forming alliances with, thieves and liars.
Vote PF over a tribal party called UPND.
Northern/ Muchinga…Majority PF Vote
Luapula……………………Majority PF Vote
Copperbelt……………….Majority PF Vote
Central…………………….Majority PF Vote
Eastern ……………………Majority PF Vote
Lusaka……………………..Majority PF Vote
North Western………….Narrow PF loss
Western……………………Majority PF Vote
Southern………………….Narrow PF loss
****VIVA EDGAR LUNGU 2015****
This is my feedback from the ground.
@2020vision
I thought you are on vision less Flight EL 2015.
Don’t blog drank!
ZAMBIA FORWARD
RB forget about 2011 you were defeated and rejected because you never listened to the people who elected you into govt. You earlier denied meeting HH and please save this rhetoric. Tell the nation the meetings you recently had with Oppenheimer and their representatives. Mr Banda must not take Zambians for foools, he is the wrong the person to take this country anywhere and the better he figures it out the better for all of us.
As a scholar of political science- RB is needed to spoil eastern & northern provinces for PF thereby aiding HH to win as Western,North-Western,Southern & Central Provinces are likely to back HH with LSK & CB for sangwapo for the likes of HH,KDML,Chipimo,RB,Nawakwi…However, in a normal Nation, only MMD,PF & the in coming party in power UPND would have contested for these elections.
RB for President 2015. NafutiNafuti RB
What Banda is saying is that he wants a pact with HH now so that he can the finish the remaining period.WHY? He has seen that he can’t win even after grabbing the candidature from Mumba
Dr RB stop this dream just work up now it is over NO PACT with HH forget it may be ask your mbuya Chipo.
RB for President 2015. Haters like it or not , this man is popular and will lead this country to 2016 not your confused party or the under 5 tribalist!
Looks like RB is still in a state of emotional pain and shock after the 2011 defeat..if Given another opportunity to bounce back, no young leader will be able to remove him. However, the good thing is that he is too old to win this election. The young generatio should not entertain this. The old should let the young lead.
Eddy, no wonder your academic performance has been hanging on peripherals of lowerv end margins. If you read the article with understanding, you would have realised it was RB who asked for a coalition and not HH. When next you sit in an exam, understand the context first before you attempt to answer. Who does not want to partner with HH at the moment? If he had 500,000 votes from Southern Province alone (as claimed by some that UPND is regional), who would not want to have stake in a party with such a huge regional command where the overal winner just needs double that figure to get into State House?
There goes two empty parties with no issues to table. Voters are very ready to give President Lungu a resounding YES for the continued developments.
Do you believe promises or what you can see and feel? The answer is obvious.
What makes UPND that it can win these elections? Are there any different from FDD?
Its imperative to be modest. As far as we are concerned, they are just passengers. PF is far far ahead, statistically and popularity. All indicators point to PF.
Edgar Lungu is President of Zambia on 21st January 2015.
Umwana ashenda atasha nyina ukunaya ubwali! That’s UPND. Move or ask around and you will assess yourselves. Surely, who in his right mind can imagine PF losing after all the visible infrastructure development they have scattered all over the country?
Honestly, PF has won no question about it! The Post know this already.
This man is selfish.
The problem with UPND is that they are leaving most of the work to HH. Most of his supporters were originally from South but even with the changed political land scape, the guys are still using the old approach.
The worst is the Copperbelt were the guys are playing a village game.
UPND, wake up, most of the guys are a reliability when it comes to message delivery.
Zambia needs to go forward.
RB when when you were in state house rumour has it that you used to drink too much and waking up late. We need a sober hardworking young President with full of energies. You had your time Mr. PRESIDENT. Its now time for someone younger. Let me express my sincere thanks to you for the little development that you brought.
It sad to see a former President demean himself the way RB has. He has a very short memory span. He was the same man who ignored the new constitution, choosing to abolish parts of the current constitution to facilitate abuse of office. He is a man driven by greed and eager to make deals. We known about his deals with RSA business cartel. We know he has already received payment and they are funding the treatment for his unfortunate wife.
So Mulundu, NO; 37, do tell are you sure you can confirm that RB has been paid money and this money has been used to pay for Thandiwe’s medical bills????
Be careful with your slanderous mouth!
Like PF, MMD betrayed the Zambian people.
Ba RB, so Dr. Mumba prevented you from forming the pact with HH because he insisted that a younger person lead? Wasn’t Mumba still in Canada, or is this after Mumba became president of MMD, in which case you could only consult. Now that you are talking it’s clear that you have kept a kambala for Nevers, for taking over as MMD leader or your memory is beginning to fail you. Last we remember you, you were handing over the leadership of MMD to Nevers at Mulungushi with a smile and a transitional speech for the younger generation, then you pop back up talking about wanting to rule for 17 months? Forgive us for being utterly confused and shocked.
Is this not the man who, at the time of handing over power to Sata, said that it was time for a younger generation of leaders to rule Zambia? Why the change of heart now, even before a younger ruler takes over? African politicians have no shame.
YAMUNYWOKOLA NJALA RB
I think 2015 is for HH, look at the number of credible people who have backed him. no wonder Dr RB want to get a quick one, this time we are saying no sir go to PF or NAREP! We the following:
(1) Former First lady (Central)
(2) Hon Matati (Muchinga)
(3) Dr. Chituwo ( Central)
(4) Hon Namulambe ( Copperbelt)
(5) E Mchima ( North Western)
(6) Mangani ( Eastern)
(7) Charlie Cool Milupi ( Western)
(8) Hon Chilambwe ( CB)
(9) Hon Pande ( NW)
All the people endosing arenot a factor in pulling voters.
Maureen can not attract even a chicken,s vote.
Mangani is a finished politician and cannot bring any thing on the table.
Mutati is not from Muchinga- and even in northern province he has no muscle.
For NAMULAMBE you know the boy has no clout.
Bo Milupi to run his own party, ADD.
Wow amazing! Can someone be this dense? Maybe there is something wrong with the old man people! Aaah! Pride does indeed go before a fall lol!
RB is just a chancer who should never have been President in the first place. What statesman? The way he has treated Nevers Mumba is totally despicable. He wants power so that his kids can come and start where they left off in looting state coffers and also to repossess Mathani’s Bank (what can of a human being can do what he did to Mathani)?. He will win the elections only in his dreams!
Desperate to be president – again! You think “correcting PF wrongs” meant HH or Nevers to be president? Hell no!
Shame is apparently a commodity in short supply amongst Zambian politicians
RB go and rest with your MMD. MMD could have developed this country if they were serious. 20 years in power you could have given us the roads, hospitals, schools, universities, etc but very little to show for. 50 years after independence, politicians still have to campaign about the same things, it is a shame. Whichever party that is voted into power in January, 2015 just know that if you don’t perform according to your promises and our expectations, you are out in 2016, there will be nothing like we need more time. If it means changing government very election year, we will do it. We are tired of your lies.
Somebody, please take RB back to the farm….When he loses again, he will cry like a baby. Last time in 2011, he said that he cried after he lost the election because his friends would be out of jobs. So RB is doing it again for his friends.
I honestly wonder what people see in EL. Are these bloggers paid to show online support.
To be fair, I invite any EL supporter to give only us five strong points why EL should be given the presidency of the Republic of Zambia. And please stick to policy issues not tribe or ‘chosen one’. Seriously, only five.
Anyone?
2020vision? OBSERVERS? Can any of your give me five points? I have a vote give and need to be convinced? Only five strong I points and you will have it.
@ ONEZED
its not about a E.L , its about his team.
After 2011, we have had 21 by elections ,& 6 of them in 2014.
PF has worn 15 out of 21 by elections.
6 worn by UPND & MMD.
Most of these elections were held in areas were PF is weak but they won.
In 2014 ,HH promised to all the 6 by elections but only managed 2
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WIN SURELY ?
Why is Zambianwatchdog blocking pro PF comments?On facebook 90% PF bloggers are blocked and can’t comment on their site.It’s so shameful to continue with this tribalism even online media.Lusakatimes,mwebantu new media(facebook page) and tumfweko are the best.UPND supporters should not be cheated that they are popular by blocking PF supporters comments.This guys can’t be allowed to rule otherwise only one tribe will be working in Zambia.They need to change otherwise they will lose even few supporters they have from other tribes coz of their true color
GRAND, thanks for your response. But the question remains unanswered.
Why vote for EL? It’s a fair question. Perhaps five reasons is asking too much. Give us three.
Editor, this is an appeal to you i’m asking that you monitor closely your new employee who is obviously a UPND cadre. Monitor this rebel who’s blocking pro-PF opinion. Either you block all sides from being heard or you stop your nonsensical blocking of pro-PF comments. Stiupid UPND have infiltrated your young blog and will cause us to stray to greener pastures like Mwebantu and Zambian eye. You’ve all been bought by a cheap politician. Stop this nonsense
-EL is team player,
-EL is coming from the grass root,therefore understand the poor more
-the pipo around his team are not coming from one region
-EL can provide beter continuity in infrasture development
– EL has short,medium & long term plans from his party.
– EL never ovarates himself more highly than his team
GRAND, thanks for the response. I’m not convinced because (in the same order)
1) EL has not demonstrated traits of a team player by firing others in his party when he should have been bringing them together;
2) EL has shown little evidence of development at grass roots level in Chawama;
3) Continuity of infrastructure development is welcome but not the associated borrowings;
4) EL confessed to having no vision of his own; and
5) Humility of EL is admirable and thus laudable.
I will agree with only point 5, but will not guarantee development our Republic.
Any other reasons?
am shaking my head…..for real?
@OneZed
-he had a reason to do so because those guys were plaining aganist him in every angle,he only suspended them pending approval from MCC
-borrowings- you cant develop at a beter scale without it. if US can do it who is Zambia not to.
– its not about his vision alone, its the party that has a vision
Tel me about you candidate……
May I hear from those who were lining up to praise Rupiah banda as being a statesman. This is the same corrupt, beer drinking scumbag. he will not change. Vote for him and you will be eating sh!t when his exiled children return.
@GRAND I actually looking for a candidate and hoping someone here can make a case for any of then without waffling.
My honest opinion, PF has too much working against it. Unmet promises, fired nurses, violence, confusion, arrogance, uncoordinated policies, delayed constitution, unpaid farmers, heavy borrowing, Nsanda and RDA, nepotism at home abroad and conflict with Bemba and Baroste leaders.
UPND it yet to show that it has a presence through the country. Their policies look sound, but the over promising is a red flag. Their candidate has has better credentials than others but his lack charisma.
MMD under RB is an insult to Zambia’s democracy. We rejected RB for corruption, thieving sons, over traveling a biased ZNBC, having zero plan for the youth and delayed constitution.
My grandfather Bwezani is just a lost, troubled and confused soul.
I read somewhere that during his misadventures in the Kaunda era, he was considered one of the bright lads and was even sent to the States as an ambassador. If that’s true, it gives a clue as to how truly intellectually bankrupt the Kaunda gang was.
Its a no brainer that RB has no intentions of reducing the over-inflated salary of a Head of state brought about by his late greedy friend Sata.
@OneZed
my dear have you been following events in zambia ?
there is no conflict between bembas and lozis, may be if you say that bembas and tongas.
look how pf worn the mangango by elections with big magin only about 4 months ago.
UPND dont have short and medium term plans from what both leaders presented at their last ralies.
The second point is UPND declared that ONLY A TONGA CAN BE A PRESIDENT OF THEIR PARTY.
Those memories are still fresh after Mazokas death. PF have had conflict after the death of Sata. But we never heard declarations that only this tribe can lead PF
@GRAND
I was referring to conflict between PF and the Chitimukulu and between PF and the BRE in Barotse.
Your candidate has no vision, so he thought Mugabe would give him one. No no no, we reject Mugabe style governance.
Viva HH
I am sorry to say but HH and UPND are not popular at all. When it comes to the rural vote people still don’t have an idea who HH or El is. These young bloods should have just relaxed and waited FOR 2016. They should be open to criticism and learn a thing or two from RB. Numbers don’t lie and the numbers are in favor of RB. In relation to the calls that RB will not step aside he has shown that he is capable of stepping aside proof is when conceding defeat in the last elections. RB is a natural fixer the male version of Oliver Pope, he was born to take care of problems. And we have alot of issues that need a steady hand.
VIVA RB 2015
I hate to agree wit dr mumba,bt he ws right on that 1 mr shrek,koz even ur own son is nat in support of ur behaviour,doesnt that tell u sumthin?
This be like, “let’s share the cake provided I am holding both the knife and the cake I promise to give you a fair share in my sole discretion” and the country be like “get the heck outa here old man -you think we were born yesterday? Which part of no in 2011 did you not get?”
RB admin killed Barotse citizens. Old Shrek refused to apologise. RB we hear you were raised in a Lozi home but very ungrateful chap. Go rest at the farm.
In my opinion the suggestion of a MMD/UPND coalition makes a lot of sense if not, Hakainde risks losing the seat to Edgar Lungu. And if that happens 2016 is likely to go to PF again. So what is better, HH as vice president or never at all. Pipo wake up to reality before you blindly mislead these politicians