The Law Association of Zambia(LAZ) has said that Acting President Guy Scott cannot be removed from his Acting position by cabinet through a vote of no confidence, but rather that the removal rest with national Assembly through a two thirds majority.
In a statement released to the media today, LAZ said that cabinet can only initiate the process of removing the acting president on medical grounds by informing the Chief Justice to set up a medical board.
The statement follows the move by 14 PF cabinet Ministers who passed a vote of No confidence in the Acting President Guy Scott.
Below is the full statement
Just asking: if it is true that EL stole client’s money, can EL then be called a thief? Has he repeated? Is he born again? Is it in order to have CEO of the country who was once convicted of having stolen client’s money & his practicing license withdrawn for that matter? PF cadres, I am just asking. Zambia is also my country and I seriously get worried when someone with long fingers is put in charge of an entity like Zambia especially when the current constitution is so weak and favours the CEO.
They are a bunch of useless human beings they wouldn’t understand that, the only message they will understand is giving them a good beating at the polls. God bless Scot, God bless Zambia.
Perfect
Next one, block Lungu from filing on Saturday
The Cartel is powerful
Thanks
BB2014
Is it true HH ripped Zambia and sold companies for a song and subsequently became filthy rich.? Am also asking for a friend, he has a project at school.
Just looking at Vodgars foaming mouth when he’s talking disgust me, I’m sorry but he won’t be my President i refuse. The kaponyas committing crime in his name don’t even have voters cards, azalila.
In this case, I am just wondering whether or not there is a “Legal” way of removing an “Acting President” who is not performing to the expectations of the nation. Clearly not!
Does that mean that there is a weakness in our constitution, If Laz is saying Scott cant be removed by cabinet or any other body irrespective of “bonifide” national security concerns? I know it is questionable on whether or not Scott is currently a “threat” depending on which camp one belongs to, but surely national security is being tested here and Scott has failed to provide the necessary leadership and now relying on an “injunctions” to hold on to his Presidency. In a democracy one rules by consensus and if one hasnt got the support of cabinet..
Vote wisely in Jan 2015
#RBnafutiNafuti (Under a…
Come to Copperbelt with those questions. They will tell you that
EL ,whether rain or sun shine,come 2015 he will be the President
of Zambia.
People in Copperbelt are waiting for tomorrow`s nominations,
once this is done, then EL will be declared the free man of the
Province.
Here we talk about HH with caution many people have got a wrong
perception about Tongas not only in politics but also in employment,
marriage e.t.c. These perception must be purged before it is too late.
I semi retired from blogging but can’t watch anymore while these retards are messing our country up. WHEN HH forms government next month the first task should be prosecuting Lungu and Kalaba for being stnpid leaving the country without permission from the acting President and then slap treason charges on the useless 14.
@msana hates eats the host ( person ) who harbours it..it eats you my friend…let go and you will be free. By the Edgar doesn’t even know you. Lungu will win whether you like him or not and that means you will be hating your president for 12 years…its a long time. Let go and let live.
VIVA EL VIVA PF
Mr. Big Loser, I will explain to you since you are too dull to explain to your friend doing the project. HH was contracted as a professional by the Zambian government run by Chiluba and Sata and like any professional, he did his job and gave bene Chiluba and Sata his report. Do you know what Chiluba and Sata then did? They sold the mines while HH had already gone and was working on another assignment for another client. Hope all this fits in your tiny brain but if not, read on sentence, report to your friend and then come back again, just like that. PF cadres, gosh!
Wisdom
Zambia is bigger than Copperbelt urban. I guess you’re still young, Criston Tembo and Miyanda understood that fact very well in 2006.
I am vindicated when I say that PF cadres are dull. This end result of all this nonsense was already known. Anyone with half a brain already knew that the law was on Scott’s side and that all these dunderhead ministers were wasting their time. But PF cadres here who do not possess even that half brain i talked about were like ‘yes, Scot has to go, well done ministers nfyo nfyo!’ such dullness is irritating. Bene Big Loser and Katondo whatever, I demand you go and look at your dull faces in the mirror and feel utterly ashamed of yourselves! Twats!
There are several implications of this advise, some of which I suspect will be challenged. Firstly the Acting President may have made decisions such as the change in retirement age with only one other Minister present! Secondly LAZ is silent on the possibility of impeachment without a medical board. Thirdly they are also silent on the implications of the acting presidents expulsion from the party. Fourth LAZ is silent on whether the acting president was within his rights to instruct the ECZ and Chief Justice and implications on the constitution of his letter. Fifth LAZ needs to stop giving partial analysis to ensure equity
Dudelove
Waste of time answering the Big L. You ask him why he’s supporting Vodgar, the answer will mostly likely be ‘EL cabe’ or if you are lucky it would be something like ‘o because he was acting President at the time Sata died or because he’s got a million portfolios’. They are empty heads, you see what I mean?
@1 Mr fair play, No, my understanding is that if EL was convicted of stealing client’s money, and sentenced for a period exceeding six months, he would not qualify to stand as President of Zambia.But here we are talking about being convicted by a court of law and LAZ is not a court of as you may wish to know. It cannot convict anybody in the judicial sense nor sentence anyone to imprisonment even for one hour. So in all respects, to all intents and purposes, for practical or theoretical purposes (choose the phrase that suits you), EL qualifies to stand and be elected as President of Zambia.
@Dudelove
I have to agree with you that the majority PF Cadres are dull but it is equally important to point out that the Law is on Guys Scott’s side on this particular matter but it is not on his side when he;
1. Wrote to the Acting Chief Justice trying to influence the Presidential nominations
2. Ignored a legally served injunction at the 2nd PF convention
The PF and, to some extent the nation, is going through all this because of Scott’s failure to “lead” both at Party and national level. It is this failure that some Ministers have no confidence in him. In a democracy you “carry” your people with you and not “Govern by injunctions”.
@Msana and Dudelove well if you asked me why Edgar over HH I would have given you my reasons but you have gotten ahead of yourselves by assuming so I will leave it at that.
Now you chaps keep referring to us as dunderheads or *****s and not a single day have I called you such names, have you taken a second to ask yourselves why I haven’t when you have given me all reasons to so.?
My advice is if you so love HH then that’s your candidate but I am free to vote for humble EL, no amount of hate or insults will change that fact, and by the let me remind you we are the majority…2011 register will be used dear friends so lets wait for 21 Jan.
VIVA EL VIVA PF
EL did not steal clients money. Ask cartel boss to confirm that again.
LAZ have since cleared him after the truth came out.
If you are worried about leaders with LONG FINGERS then be very very worried that Scott is where he is cause we all know what led to him getting the boot when he was MMD Minister of Agriculture. I know ZEDians have short memories but still a long shot at hoping people (some) will remember!
We already know ba LAZ. where were you?
iwe your comments are misplaced. do you even have evidence that Edgar stole money from a client? Just support your candidate and leave Edgar alone. the best you can do for a candidate you don’t support is not to vote for them
LAZ ONLY COME TO CLARIFY MATTERS WHEN THINGS ARE PRESSING ON GUY SCOT!!
My thinking is that Guy Scott can be removed as Acting President if PF expel him from the Party and as MP for Lusaka Central.Once expelled how does he become President or Acting President of this country because the constitution only allows people sponsored by a political party to become President.What does LAZ say about this?
I told you. How stupid does Brian Changala activist whatever whatever and SENIOR CITIZEN fimo fimo feel now? You guys rush to comment without consulting first. Guy Scott is now the Bee’s Knees – meaning, “the Don” kwati filya fine Ba Sata was! He appoints and discharges the Chief Justice, he is the commander of the armed forces, he can declare a state of emergency or even war – in short, he is the bollocks! Now lungu will pissing his pants – chakolwa and lawyer without any knowledge! Kalaba, Inonge, kapwata or ka whatever, you are in deep Sheis! Let the Scott show you who is the boss now. Heads will row. I suggest Guy Scott to call for coalition of government union and go to bed with HH. It will be interesting to see who the man will be between the two. This is official – PF is dead
*I told you. How stupid does Brian Changala activist whatever whatever and SENIOR CITIZEN fimo fimo feel now? You guys rush to comment without consulting first. Guy Scott is now the Bee’s Knees – meaning, “the Don” kwati filya fine Ba Sata was! He appoints and discharges the Chief Justice, he is the commander of the armed forces, he can declare a state of emergency or even war – in short, he is the bollocks! Now lungu will be pissing his pants – chakolwa and lawyer without any knowledge! Kalaba, Inonge, kapwata or ka whatever, you are in deep Sheis! Let Guy show you who is the boss now. Heads will roll. I suggest Guy Scott to call for coalition of government union and go to bed with HH. It will be interesting to see who the man will be between the two. This is official – PF is dead
Only LAZ makes sense. The High and supreme courts are now political game fixing Casinos.
Chibesa Kunda has seriously put the Judiciary in bad image, with the masses ,especially those that don’t support Lungu are totally disgusted.you must remember that only less than 42% people voted for PF in 2011.
LAZ is not a court of Zambia neither is it a legal advisor to government so it is acting ultra hires.
We have been busy with the compaigns, I just came to remind you to come as early as 8hr tomorrow, who ever stands in our way he wil be better dead than alive because we shall never settle with anything les than filling in nominations.
As for you so called LAZ, wer were you when Mwenya single handed put Scott as the president?
Whre were you when u wer called to interprett the pf constitution so that scot could understand what is written in it?,
How come these useless ministers did not do it when the late Mr. Sata was terribly sick?
PROGRAM FOR FILING OF NOMINATIONS FOR PF PRESIDENT HON. EDGAR CHAGWA LUNGU
SATURDAY 20TH DECEMBER 2014
11;30HRS – Laying of Wreaths at His Excellency President Michael Chilufya Sata’s Grave at Embassy Park by President Edgar Chagwa Lungu, MCC and Ministers.
12;00HRs – Filing of Presidential Nominations before Returning Officer, Acting Chief Justice Lombe Chibesakunda
14hrs- Public Rally at Freedom Statute on the Open Grounds at SDA/ Kamwala Mosque open grounds on Independence Road.
It is time to beat these shameless, power-hungry b.astards.
Okay LT – you’ve rinsed this story. How about showing us images of the today. Sunny, bright and packed with people smiling. I still think Campaign 01 produces the best imagery. Nice turn out.
Time the other campaigns took note and the big two elephants in the room need to get a move on. Oh I forget… you plan to flood us with images tomorrow, right? Chuckle.
…of the nomination file ins today… Chuckle.
Here is another way Scott can be removed; Article 36(3) Where Cabinet resolves that the question of physical or mental capacity of the President to discharge the functions of his office shall be investigated, the President shall,….or the Board appointed under Clause (1) reports that the President is not incapable of discharging the functions of his office,….. ,cease to perform the functions of his office and those functions shall be performed by…
At least he can be crippled between now and the election date notwithstanding the 2/3 vote by Parliament to remove him
Provided Cabinet can lay reasonable charges to challenge his mental capacity e.g. ignoring the court injunction prohibiting the holding of the second Pf conference at which he was in attendance and also interfering with the Judiciary by writing to the Chief Justice to reject Pf filing of their nominated candidate contrary to his oath to uphold the constitution
@ people,TONGA-UPND/Come to LUSAKA/Copperbelt with those questions. They will tell you that
EL ,whether rain or sun shine,come 2015 he will be the President
of Zambia.
People in LUSAKACopperbelt are waiting for tomorrow`s nominations,
once this is done, then EL will be declared the free man of the
Province.
Here we talk about HH with caution many people have got a wrong
perception about Tongas not only in politics but also in employment,
marriage e.t.c.
BANTUSTAN UPND!
LAZ has lied to Zambians.
Vice President can be removed through two other options;
1. The Gun, power of frustrated man / woman will sure remove Guy Scott, that is a fact.
2. Peoples Power; a match on Cabinet/ Parliament and a siege will remove Guy Scott.
Let us be honest in our views and advice we give to the people out there.
Are we not close to any of above options, what is LAZ doing to avoid any of these options that has devastating effects.
Sure LAZ should engage Guy Scott, sit him down for the sake of our beautiful country, peace we have enjoyed.
The truth and the will of the people will prevail.
God bless our nation
Funny that a lawyer was among them
hahaha Kikiki!!! Interesting go on SCOTT, and well done LAZ. PF have selfish interest and not the nation at heart.
PF want to use every force to continue destroying our beloved Zambia. Guy Scott is right, please separate party and government and you cannot use eye marked funds for campaigns.
Lelo lelo, Lungu to rule Zambia will be a disaster, becuase he is sorrounded by crooks, surrogates, *****s and mafia’s and too he will be a mafia.
Zambians wake up and choose a credible leader. Not Kobova Vodka Lungu
What about the Acting acting president? the whole arrangement if flawed fro start to finish.
LAZ good for telling these jacked up alcohol infused power hungry jerks.
It will be immoral for cabinet to move now when they refused/neglected to move on the late Mr Sata’s incapacity.
@NaJudah
Tell them! These STUP!D ID!OTS are so dull they cannot even see what F00LS they are making of themselves!
For TWO YEARS their duty was to appoint a Medical Board for Sata and they FAILED!
Now they want to fire a health person. I have never seen such incompetence and ignorance!
If they had done their duty as they were supposed to, Sata would have had to resign and all this nonsense would have been avoided!
So now the blame for this lies squarely on these 14 so-called Ministers.
They must be jailed for this dereliction of DUTY!
Now get them arrested these bunch of retards who can not even interpret the constitution let alone uphold it! What sort of people are we that we allow ourselves to be ruled by flawed characters who are all too willing to violate the constitution at any point for their personal convenience?
A bucnch of retards?it does not mean if u differ from cabinet,then u shud insult.wat does the bible say bout respecting elders?mind u,in everything we say on thse social media,remember life is short and one day we will face Jesus’s judgemnt.the reason y we have so much tension tin the country is wv turned away from GOD and are hoping in politicians.GOD knoz hu he has chosen as our next president,but insulting elders will just bring a curse upon yo life.no wonder most young pipo are not progressing.wen we were growing up,even arguing with an elder was a taboo.taeven as u debate on these social media,remember to respect adults no matter how rong they may be.even HH sed those insulting on social media are not his true supporters.HH respected Sata no mata how they differed.
The level of dullness exhibited here sometimes deserves to be insulted. If not, that level of dullness will continue to grow to the detriment of the nation. Thats all.
Adults were presumed to be worthy of respect because they acted like adults. They had wisdom, intelligence and life experience that guided their actions and behaviour. What we are witnessing here is far from adult behaviour and by default therefore does not warrant respect accorded to adults. If you can not see the problem here, you are part of the problem & your time is up!
THE 14 Honorable Ministers DID NOT FIRE Scott. LAZ please please don’t jump the gun.
Scott was ASKED TO RESIGN on MORAL GROUNDS…ASKED ASKED ASKED to resign and that’s why he simply said NO.
Ba Linda Kasonde Scott was not fired and the vote of no confidence is just THAT a vote of no confidence. !!!
This law and weak constitution you are splashing here is well known by the EL team who among them can be found those who even drafted the useless document.,,,while you were busy with your law exams.
@Mazuba ,which elders are talking about?Whose old between Kalaba and Guy Scott.Go and teach your Kalaba how to respect elders especially the acting president.Tell your Moslem Lungu to sober up,he may need to morrow.HH may maintain Scott as vice president.
Democracy has peravailed….once again in peaceful loving Zamabia! Someone once commented on Voice of Africa, that “Zambia usese legal instruments to install and remove leaders without having to fire a Gun shot”
Imagine what goes on in other West and North African countries??
Foolish LAZ who are toothless. A chap is busy doing wrong things which can plunge the entire country into turmoil and you are there supporting nonsense. Come January 20, 2015 this burger will answer and thats the time he will flee to his homeland, scotland. Can a blackman do this nonsense in europe and some foolish people are supporting this nonsense. Guy scot is not a zambian no matter what others would say. Can some one tell me what tribe he is, his village and chief for him to claim to be a zambian. I dont care whether you label me as a racist but what this burger is doing here can not be condoned from a blackman in europe. wake up zambians.
From where I stand, the only people “plunging” are the usual suspects you know the ones who refused to call a medical board for a president they knew was dying, the ones who chose their leader by show of hands and then went to a friendly judge to purport to get a consent judgement and who are frankly irritating most people with their incessant whining and bickering. My free advice, grow up, get a spine and try to act honourably.
Mr chiparamba use ur head to think and not ur asss,hw cn advisin th cj on purely party matters plunge the whole country into turmoil?
mwachuleni , Panga Family why cant you wait it is only less than a monthy remaining . viva guy scot you are a real man , But know that Nsanda is a criminal . God is watching .
Do these stupid ministers read their constitution? No wonder sata, used to call them useless minister, read before you go ahead with your stupid moves, don’t you look foolish now?
And Sata calling them stupid ministers what does that say of him as appointing authority?
When PF was voted for in 2011, it was clear to me that God didnt love Zambia. Little did I know that Ge who dont know it are those who died before PF took power as well as those who are not yet born.od just meant Zambians to experience and know what bad leadership was and what it can do. As am writing everyone who is alive in Zambia knows what bad leadership is, the only on
GOD dosent love Zambiabecause the PF camt to power in 2011?can u repent before u curse yoself.God is not a cadre that u can just insult.wat does the bible se about using GOD’S name in vain.u pipo have no fear of GOD.in the name of supporting HH u now start insulting GOD that he has no love for Zambia?if GOD never loved Zambia wud we have peace for 50 years?how many of our neighbours have wars?is this the calibar of supporters HH has hu can even insult GOD.If GOD could NOT SPARE HIS OWN CHILDREN THE ISRAELITES WEN THEY WORSHIPED IDOLS,U EXPECT HIM TO SPARE U?MY BROTHER REPENT FOR WHAT UV JUST SED OR ELSE THE HAND OF GOD WILL ALWAYS BE HEAVY UPON U AND U WILL REMEMBER MY ADVICE.
@P Hambulo yes God is not a cadre that’s why we are saying that PF was a wrong Government lead by a King cobra with a lot of tribal poison .Who appointed 14 cabinet minsters from three districts namely Mpika,Chinsali and Kasama.The entire Foreign service belonged to single tribe accept a few.Zambia has 73 tribes and this cobra only saw 1 or 2 tribes.what a shame.HH will appoint ministers from all provinces of Zambia.Thats what we call Zambia United .So don’t use god in vain to demean others.
This party is crumbling. I think they only managed to push in a presidential candidate through the back door. 10 of the 14 ministers who signed for the removal of Guy Scott are from one tribe, that is the nucleus of this party. Nothing genuine, it is just a talking shop, typical of this tribe
Guys why is it that HH supporters will yap without reasoning just becoz it is against PF or Lungu.? Lets be fair fellas…
Now back to LAZ, you are the same chaps who lied to us that Scott was qualified to act in the first place when he actually didn’t. He is occupying the office becoz of you chaps failing to interpret the constitution correctly…Useless LAZ.
VIVA EL VIVA PF
@ Big L…I hope you will buy some Doom to commit suicide with coz our 6th President HH will be in State house come 20th January!
@chalwe are you sure becoz as far as I know UPND has been winning elections before the final results are from ECZ…so my advice is buy enough doom yourself pal coz come 20 Jan you guys are losing again. If your HH wins I be happy for him.
VIVA EL VIVA PF
I find Zambia to be a joke, the so called cabinet ministers, I can not even hire them as garden boys on my farm. They is no mature person in that house, they are even breaking the house further. All I can say is electorates vote. If you want to be like Zimbabwe go for it, if you want a better country, you apparently have the in you hands.
This time HH is winning my man.It has been written on the wall.Let those who have ears ,hear and those with eyes open them and see.What magic will Lungu use to win.He has less than 30 days to campaign throught Zambia.If thinks everyone knows him he is playing a dangerous .Its like going in Live ati shalwale AIDS.
Scot is a danger to security of this nation.If at all He means well let Him reconcile Sampa and Lungu.Let Him stop interfering with the Judiciary.Scot is not protecting the rule of law but the interest of the Evil Cartel. If it was Sampa it was going to be a different issue.Sikoti Zambians are are not ***** but this marks the end of your political career.Finshi Cartel bakulisha ifikulu?
Typing error@Keen Follower
When PF was voted for in 2011, it was clear to me that God didnt love Zambia. Little did I know that God just meant Zambians to experience and know what bad leadership was and what it can do. As am writing everyone who is alive in Zambia knows what bad leadership is, the only one who wouldnt know it are those who die d before PF took power as well as those who are not yet born.
So it means Scott and Emmanuel Chenda can meet and form a quorum. Well done LAZ. It’s a pity that Edgar Lungu and Simbyakula, the learned counsels can deliberately choose to mislead their colleagues in Parliament through a faulty “vote of confidence” petition. SO
CABINET=SCOTT+CHENDA
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But if he i expelled from pf then he has no right to be an MP, let alone acting president. LAZ did not consider that did they?
LAZ chaps didn’t pass ZIALE I believe becoz they are forgetting that Scott is occupying the office on PF ticket, so technically they can expel him as he thus ceases to act as prez.
Rubbish! Rubbish! Rubbish! Law has spoken period!
LAZ has no final say on this issue.It’s the court of law that can affirm that.Guy Scot is occupying that seat on the basis of being a PF member.That is why he has gone to court to prevent PF from firing him.PF may decide to part company with Guy Scot because he is not on their side.Zambians wake up do not support any how.How to you fight your own kids?Suppose his preferable candidate had won do you think he was going to behave in the same manner?Ask him were he got the money to hold the PF convention yet he is saying he cant allow indivduals to use TAX payers money?The press where are you ask he to tell the nation where he got the money to transport,accommodate and feed more than 4500 delicates.
Think about it. The Acting President cannot fire ministers. Only the elected republican president can. In the same way a presidential candidate cannot fire the acting republican president, otherwise what would be his motive.
Scot is already in court with an injunction remember the 22 rebel MPs expelled by Sata. well it is only 30 days to go and the Judge can set a hearing date for the injunction case on 1st February 2015.
The Zambian Quick Annalysis Group has predicted that HH will win the forth coming elections with a small margin, followed by Edgar Lungu.
An Independent Group has indicated that the forth coming elections will cause some political parties to go to court.
The results below have given advantage to HH mainly because of Internal wrangling in the ruling PF and MMD.
1. HH UPND=1,005, 230 votes with = 38%
2. Edgar Lungu PF=924,890 Votes with = 36%
3. Nevers Mumba/Rupiah Banda MMD=578,900 votes 25%
4. Edith Nawakwi FDD = 278,780 Votes = 10%.
5. The Other Political Parties to share other votes.
The Independent Analysis Group has indicated that the possibility of results to change are very slim may be by only 1 and half percent.
WISHFUL THINKING! MY HEART-FELT CONDOLENCES IN ADVANCE! YOU WILL CRY IN THAT LANGAUAGE
In 2011 General Elections,HH got 390,000 votes.Since the same voters are the ones that will vote on 20th January,2015,what formular will HH use to increase his votes by more than 300% votes?
@Martin you are big liar.Consult before you show your ignorance to the public.HH in 2011 got more than 558,000 votes,almost haly of what sata got.the percentage were Sata 42.8% and HH 18%.
In the constitution a president belongs to a party and so i assume should the one acting. This LAZ statement only covers one aspect
hmmm…what makes this UPND different from the one in 2011??…it claimed to be winning the elections then…and look what happened….they still called MCS all sorts of names…even had a TV documentary on him….the same thing is what is happening now….we loved the KING COBRA..like we love our EL …..for some of you UPND is already in power…..Be humble ka…..be humble….Zambians are very deceiving…donchi kubeba is a philosophy…not just a song…..
*fact Gods will always prevails*
I think at that time people had not experienced PF’s stup!d kind of leadership, pangas, high cost of living etc. The dynamics have changed my friend. People have learnt their lesson and have no intention of repeating the mistake of 2011. Do not be deliberately naive. Move with the times, friend.
@ King Cobra
True Zambians are very deceiving and that’s why they are always victims of political deception. PF hid the President ‘s illness from the citizens but later later said he had died unexpectedly, food prices sky-rocketed, the constitution-making process stalled and violence by PF cadres has reached unprecedented levels. True, we all need to be humble and I agree with you. But, in my view, truth is more desirable than humility which comes in the third position after honesty. All these three qualities have been rare in the PF.
@War lord it is because Sata was PF and Sata died with PF that’s why they are wrangles.Sata lied to people about 90 days bla bla and Nepotism is another reason.
And Edgar a lawyer didn’t jack about this ? Thank you LAZ for educating these dull cabinet ministers.
And Edgar a lawyer didn’t know jack about this ? Thank you LAZ for educating these dull cabinet ministers, ata!!
Power hungry hyenas wanted to remove Dr. Scot from presidency so they could loot national coffers for their illegitimately elected “party president.” We thank God that Dr. Scott could stand firm on this subject matter.
HH, please kick out these pigs.
It is Edgar Lungu fye and nothing else. Remember LAZ is behind misinterpretation of the hand over of power of instruments from EL to the crooked Guy Scott. So i cannot agree and believe the story from LAZ at this time. They are fake.
There you have it folks. In fact LAZ is diplomatic to call the so called cabinet meeting an informal gathering. It should have been called a charade, a kangaroo-court-kind of gathering. Even in institutions where we work and run businesses, people declare interest in agenda items and normally, they leave the meeting so that those with no interest to declare deliberate on agenda items. Can you imagine entrusting this group of cabinet ministers with codes for nuclear weapons in the event of a false alarm? The sub-region would be up in flames just as the PF is up in flames following the demise of one Michael Chilufya Sata. It appears the current cabinet is bereft and devoid of cool-headed thinkers, hence the incessant bumbling and fluffing.
None of the Cabinet ministers claimed that they had held a Cabinet meeting. That is why they asked for a Cabinet meeting to be convened so that the vote of no confidence motion can be tabled. Those Ministers are not as dull as you think baba.
Is it true Lungu is a lawyer? Let him be investigated because I am beginning to suspect he just stole his degree. How come he never seems to understand the law almost always? Your Excellence Guy Scott the majority of Zambians are behind you. You have acquitted yourself very well and very soon you will be vindicated. Lungu and his fellow goons are just a bunch of useless power hungry thugs
All law abiding Zambians are cheering for you! As long as you are in the right and acting under the law we will raise your name? Enough of these bumbling desperate PF ministers led by an ignorant lawyer!
WELL DONE LAZ FOR FOR EDUCATING THESE SO CALLED CABINET MINISTER .WHO HAVE NOT READ THE CONSTITUTION.VERY DULL PEOPLE
Viva Zambia Viva
Thank you Laz and thank you President Scott for standing your ground.
This is interesting, what’s the out come from the meeting held this morning at Pomodzi hotel between the clergy, Sampa and Guy Scott.
I think there is need to seriously amend the constitution. It has a lot of loop holes. We seriously need to review the constitution.
This is confusing! So the acting president cannot be removed unless there is some medical incapacitation? The constitution needs serious review…I now understand why?
Laz or is it Lazy, should just advise Scot to behave , period.
Don’t you ever think we cant see your machinations . Ifintu ati ni LUngu , chapwa. Even same Laz knows
Ama Catholic Bishops ba le fwaya iku munyengelela umwaiche Nsampa.They will not manage because the election was violently stolen from Nsampa.God will punish Moslem Lungu.he will collapse at a public rally.
@msana wanzili
I’m really surprised about your comments. This really is jubilee year. You to say that about hh. I can’t believe my eyes.
LAZ has no final say on this issue.It’s the court of law that can affirm that.Guy Scot is occupying that seat on the basis of being a PF member.That is why he has gone to court to prevent PF from firing him.PF may decide to part company with Guy Scot because he is not on their side.Zambians wake up do not support any how.How to you fight your own kids?Suppose his preferable candidate had won do you think he was going to behave in the same manner?Ask him were he got the money to hold the PF convention yet he is saying he cant allow individuals to use TAX payers money?The press where are you ask he to tell the nation where he got the money to transport,accommodate and feed more than 4500 deligates.
I can sense desperation kicking-in. LAZ is only advising here and hasn’t suggested in anyway that this is judgment from the courts of law. And please don’t undermine and/or insult peoples intelligence by asking them to wake up. We are attentive, we are objective in comprehension of issues and occurrences. But we won’t be reduced to your stone throwing, violent, uncivil characters that you use to pursue political schemes.
@ Mazuba, do not hold any respect for anyone who radiates qualities of the devil. Hold/give respect for someone who is Godly. Would you call our current cabinet, especially the infamous 14 cabinet mafias, as Godly? Even your own biological parent, if he loses that Godliness, he ceases to be respected. Respecting anyone who is in the camp of the devil makes you devil too. Is this what you want Mazuba? To be called devil because u also respect the devil? For me if my biological parent assumes qualities of a devil, he/she loses my respect.
bush laywer EL..kekekekekekeke..he can’t interpret the law..
We know that PF will expel Guy Scott from the party and declare Lusaka Constituency seat vacant. What will happen then? The constitution says a president is backed by a party!
exactly my thinking. lets get a comment from LAZ if this was to happen.
The next one to throw a punch is a rotten tomato. Maybe the kids will understand those words better and go about their business. It’s going to be a long month if they keep on…
Mwanya ba PF ta mwa shimone impiya sha bu teko.You are used to stealing no Government resources go un burry the money you stole.It will finishi and die after loosing.HH has passed through three presidential elections but he never been broke.VIVI FLIGHT HH 2015.
Precedence has been set. We can only predict the outcome of the PF presidential wrangles on the basis of new developments with the MMD leadership. The inevitable is about to happen especially taking into considering this advice from LAZ. It’s quite refreshing to observe that with Dr. Scott at the helm of leadership, our judicial system has begun to function more effectively and efficiently than it has ever done before. And so those who thought that they could continue with their manipulative and corrupt practices to get their way, that might just not happen in the 90 days that Dr. Scott acts as President. Attempts to impeach or remove him using underhand methods are laughable and will not succeed. A level playing field has been staged. Now let’s see who wins this election.
@40 The Attentive Public
Really!
The President breaks the law by creating havoc in his party. Convening an illegal convention, electing an illegal 2nd presidential candidate. Then uses the courts of law to BULLY the Judiciary to place a Contemptuously elected 2nd candidate over the first chosen by majority?
He has immunity from prosecution but some 5 or so of his Members are facing Contempt charges. How is this a good thing?
The man is mad. Test the Judiciary? Waste the courts time, prevent other urgent cases from being heard.
Even the kitchen maid knows Sampa was elected illegally and cannot be awarded. What us the point of Guy Scotts behaviour?
@1.15 It’s a worry. Concur on the two points you raise.
1. Wrote to the Acting Chief Justice trying to influence the Presidential nominations
2. Ignored a legally served injunction at the 2nd PF convention
These two points show that he is acting in a dictator capacity. He is Abusing the powers of the Office of the President by confusing his Party Position.
Zambians we need to be concerned about this. We can all see that the relationship with Guy Scott and his MPs has turned Toxic, because he has Abused his position. He has lost his head trying to place Sampa even though Sampa cannot be legally accepted.
PF should Expel him from PF. Let him be President for a couple more days making decisions on his own plus one!
Separate Guy from the Party.
The good thing is we all know what else the people driven Constitution needs to re-work.
There has to be a clause to remove the president on other grounds than illness capacity.
EAsy does it. He/she who points a fingure at others, usually forgets that three of the fingures are pointing at him /her. It is really surprising to see how all these so called cabinate Ministers in PF have no clue what the constitution of Zambia states. I now believe the white man when he said, if you want to hide something from a black man, just put it in writing. We never take time to look at such documents when it is bound on us to read them for they are meant for us especially if you decide to be a politician. This is the more reason why this PARK of jackals in PF are continuosly emberassing themselves. Understandably, most of them have very humble education, one may not blame them, but LUNGU worries me the level of ignorance he has in LAW yet he is a LAWYER. No wonder cert. was grabe
@rasco
You are an Im.becile!
Clearly you don’t know what you are talking about.
It’s interesting though that you use racism to make a point. AND that is the point about Guy Scott, he has created a racist environment. He is acting as a racist to his cabinet treating them like fools.
Hons. Edgar Lungu, and his MPs have expertly out maneuvered Guy Scott on the Party level in court. They will ultimately win this one.
This illiterate pf ministers and their panga mafia supporters are just vultures yearning to plunder national resources which Scot is jealously protecting. Let us vote them out and confine them and their party to the land of the forgotten.
Oh common LAZ!What if PF expel him from the party will he still be acting President and in whose interest?This is absurd and very primitive.This bye election clause must go as soon as possible.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
Today, oxcarts came through to sample the tarmacs of Lusaka, destination is HH filing in! Reminds me of Brazil Vs Germany at world cup; Sambas in multitudes cried after 90 min. Don’t get deceived, HH is just about to retire! For the Scottish whisky drunkard its just a matter of time and soon
Scott need to be probed seriously the man is smelling corruption. They exchange hands with HH with other conditions such as
PF to have a weaker candidate in the name of SAMPA, using DCs appointed by KABIMBA to lay grounds for HH, Putting strict measures on cabinet minister movement and use of government resources, Helping to fund the general conference. Forming a sprinter party to weaken PF. God is great all these will fail and God will see us through and triumph over the free masons
You!!! where was Lungu when Sata and Guy were covering every inch of this country selling the PF. Who ever heard of Lungu before government was formed in 2011? Stop disrespecting someone who built PF with Sata. Now you can rally behind vultures for no apparent reason!! You think if Scott was useless Sata would have left him as Vice President from 2011 till his death.
EL must by now be gnashing his teeth. What a price to pay for his lack of ingenuity! This confusion in PF is unwarranted. EL’s stubborn refusal to accept and comply with the requirements of a democratic process at their convention is what is behind all this quagmire.
Mei
Give it a rest will you.
The Law has ordered Lungu is the PF Candidate. You cannot say otherwise. Your misunderstanding of the current situation is typically you.
@ 47.1 Patriot Abroad
I see! You are a patriotic Patriot indeed, albeit living in comfort abroad. It’s EL who is having to knock on bolted doors afterhours and/or make frantic calls that never get answered. His campaign is seriously running low on cash. Meanwhile, the prospects of an easy win are fast dwindling away. Wish you could come to his aid. He desperately needs your help, dear Patriot Abroad. I trust you care.
Mushota, is that comedy or you are just from taking a short sleep. Your comments are funny ohhhhhhhh. EL MWAUME. STRONG MAN.
Lombe Chibeasakunda, why can’t you put to rest all these legal ponderings we have?
Presumably, you the Top Dog knows all these answers, failure to which you have minions to go to the archives and dig up the CORRECT DEFINITIVE ANSWERS to our questions?
Be non-partisan and interpret the Law – it’s your chance to show why you should be CJ. So far you’re failing miserably lady when you could be contributing and guiding positively.
I want to hear from a learned authority, clearcut interpretations. That, presumably, is you. Sha!
– In 2001 I predicted that Mazoka is winning. My grandfather on his death bed argued that it is Mwanawasa who will carry the day. (The truth is not really known as to who really won 2001 ELECTIONS).
– In 2006 I predicted that Mwanawasa is winning going by how he worked in his first term. Though I did not see him win in 2001 and he did.
– In 2008 I predicted that RB is carrying the day going by how he handled the transition period and he did.
– In 2011 despite predicting for him in 2008 I predicted that PF Sata is winning solely because of how he himself RB messed his chances, and Sata did.
– NOW I AM PREDICTING AGAIN TO ALL ZAMBIANS HH IS WINNING THESE ELECTIONS. COME 2015 YOU WILL DEFINITELY REMEMBER THIS COMMENT.
DONT HATE THE PLAYER, HATE THE GAME.
Oh LAZ, wonder its hard to trust lawyers, all they know is invoicing and competing on best cars they drive. Timely warning to HH, Plot 1 is Garden of The Biblical Eden. Which first lady has ever come out without an affair, search them!!! Some have a lot to explain, Zambians forget easily!!! That’s Mmembe rules coz knows a lot by syphoning data and make them panic at ransom. Mrs HH must be preserved, so let EL rule, Mrs EL is alangizi. Timely warning badaala, stay away ad vultures lie in wait
EL is a manipulator and cannot be trusted. Look at the way he has manipulated his way to nomination. Read me well: that is how deceitiful he will be if (God forbid) he is given a chance to rule; he will continue performing a donch kubeba and most of you supporters of EL are yet to swallow your pride. The problem with Zambia is that we have too many uneducated people and these tend to push candidates down our throat. Zambia is among the poorest 4 countries on earth; does this not shock you? We are trying to pump sense to Zambians so that we make right decisions for once. We have credible candidates with capacity to take us out of the dire triats. EL does not feature among the top 7 candidates with the right mentality and leadership acumen. We have people eulogising him and yet hollow.
JJP, hold your fire, in this game u may just find you are the hollow one. Respect every fool, as u will have no option but to be ruled by the same fool
Who remembers Guy coming back from an officially assigned duty in Scotland this year, and the only investment he negotiated for was his relatives to come and establish a Whiskey plant in Zambia! Sic! Is that the best Zambians deserve!!! Oh come on! HH seems to be promising a lot of jargon based on his capitalist mind. Another SAP!!! Sondashi can only make his AIDS muti when he is voted in! Another Chakomboka! Trust continuity and let PF rule
I wish I were a lawyer in Zambia at this time!
By now I would have made a bundle since the time Sata died; I would have had to hire extra staff to keep track of the ever-changing scenario and scout for the best chance to represent people with deep pockets and even deeper ambitions…
Zambian Watchdog back online. Hooooray for media freedom!
@Dudelove you made me laugh so hard, my son came to ask what was going on. You are so funny!
On a separate note – Earth to PF cadres – Guy Scott will not be president after 20 January. That is a mere 32 days away, if I count correctly….
Chill!!!!
Everyday you are getting closer to your big day without doing a thing. Take it as a gift.
What you need to be concerned with right now is :
1) whether Edgar Lungu will win, and if he does
2)whether he will redeem your badly dented image as a political party full of infighting, indiscipline, associated with violence and incompetence
3) A debt problem of your making & spiralling cost of living plus a host of other problems you seem to be conveniently overlooking all of which will NOT go away with the departure of…
@katondo
This is a lot better from you. I even read it all. Good luck with your candidate. (Make your post even better by not using capital letters)
Cheers Kat!
Fact: Come to Copperbelt with those questions. They will tell you that
EL ,whether rain or sun shine,come 2015 he will be the President
of Zambia.
People in Copperbelt are waiting for tomorrow`s nominations,
once this is done, then EL will be declared the free man of the
Province.
Here we talk about HH with caution many people have got a wrong
perception about Tongas not only in politics but also in employment,
marriage e.t.c. These perception must be purged before it is too late.
I noticed that the supporters of ka Lungu here are going out of their way to avoid addressing the issue of their man’s theft charges and his license to practice law being revoked. Politics being a dirty game it seems like truth is the first casualty.
Does anyone in public office read and understand the constitution?
We need to make it a requirement because it is embarrassing when they have to back peddle on crap they say after someone else tells them they can’t legally do it.
It is what desperation does – using a gun to shoot a fly! PF are in high gear of desperation.
PF cadres your level of dullness is amazing even after a respected body like the Law Association of Zambia tells you that your 14 ministers were attempting to break the law you still don’t get it, what is it going to take to educate you?
Just expel Scott from PF, expel him even at ordinary-member level. Scott is of no use to both party and country .
LAZ is not the courts of law and not legal advisor to the Government.
The Vice President of LAZ is wrong. Its mandate is NOT to uphold the constitution and rule of law. Its mandate is to look after its lawyers from sluicing clients’ money and misbehaving. The LAZ Act Ch 31 of the laws of Zambia gives LAZ a consultative not law interpreting role.
That is why the LAZ can be sued and can sue, a court of law cannot. LAZ is not legally allowed to pass judgement or send anyone to jail, courts can. I am amazed that the Zambia legal fraternity can degenerate to this! What is going on? Who asked LAZ to comment on this matter? Zambian lawyers are failing their clients day in and day out and negligence is rampant while they are growing richer and fatter by the day through exorbitant fees they charge. In a poor country with a per capita income of $2000, how can one justify legal fees as high as those in the US which has a 20 times higher per capita income?
It is about time LAZ spoke out
Now those so called Cabinet Ministers should begin to answer for their misconduct and alarming the nation
ONE ZAMBIA UNITED
VIVA UPND
FLIGHT HH 2015
HH is more than prodigy
Vote for #HH to build up a better #Zambia or vote for Edgar Lungu to have buy election in february
WHAT THE HELL !!!!
so these 14 cabinet ministers didn’t know this?….This is worrying to know that a bunch of goons are running our country who have no basic understanding of the constitution.
@Mr Fair Play, sorry my friend, your insinuations can’t work! Cakubaba? Wina azalila – again!