President Edgar Lungu has ordered police to immediately question opposition Hakainde Hichilema over his remarks that he controls the Zambian intelligence system.
During a news conference last week, Mr Hichilema claimed that he controls the state intelligence system in the country and has access to intelligence files before President Lungu.
President Lungu said the Police should investigate to ascertain whether Mr. Hichilema’s claims are true or are just aimed at bringing confusion in the country through mere policking.
He has also directed Police to investigate and identify the officers leaking information to the UPND leader.
President Lungu issued the directive this morning at State House when he swore in Justice Ireen Mambilima as Chief Justice.
‘I expect the police to move in and find out from him how he is doing so. Has unsurped the powers of the President. The past five days have worried me a lot and I want you to find out from him whether it is true he runs the OP in this country because as far as I know there is only one President and that President is me and through me we all have to be governed,’ he said.
He said, ‘the police must find out from HH how he is controlling the state intelligence system and if there are people leaking such information to him, we need to fish them out and charge them and if there is a criminal offence occasioned, the Director of Prosecutions will take it up.’
President Lungu also reiterated that he will not interfere in the operations of the Judiciary.
‘As for me, I want to assure you that I will not interference with the judiciary, I will not interfere with the court general and I will not interfere with Parliament,’ he said.
He said with the appointment of a new chief justice, Zambians expect speedy transformation in the delivery of justice to the public.
And Justice Mambilima pledged to expeditiously address the challenges affecting the speedy delivery of justice in country.
Justice Mambilima disclosed that she will be meeting stakeholders to discuss how this can be addressed.
‘We hit the ground running and address the issues affecting the delivery of justice but it needs the input of all stakeholders including the bar, the public, the government and ourselves, we are going to start now and meet all the stakeholders,’ Justice Mambilima said.
And people doubt when we say the police in Zambia are unprofessional. Libongani should resign. Does it need a head of state to tell the police who to question?
If Mutembo Nchito is the one leaking information to HH how are you going to prosecute him? nolle prosequi?
Oh Lungu, he is bothering you isn’t he?
You should question the OP not HH.
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Bb2014
Bring it on Lungu and see how Zambia will be set on fire in a flash.
For HH to have his intelligence structures is no offence under any law in Zambia.
Every political figure has some people who inform him of some plans against him or his family.
I am waiting to see how this will pan out.
If HH says No to questioning then what?
Bwana Presido don’t worry abt HH. he is used to getting favours. just recently he was enjoying the support of MUVI Tv with their 80 % analysis . this time he knows wats happening with OP . The Question should be , is it giving him the needed infor to be at plot 1.
@Mushota
You are absolutely right. Its Lungu ‘s job to question his intelligence structures to find out who leaking intelligence reports not HH the messenger.
Lungu should actually be thankful that HH is helping him to shape and tighten his intelligence.
This is just the right time to do it when Mr Matapa’s death is still fresh people ‘s minds.
I can not wait to see Lusaka come to a stand still or possibly burn while HH is being questioned.
Lungu will regret this move for sure.
Go ahead and question him, its the right thing to do but keep it in mind that Mutembo will enter a nolle prosequi on behalf of HH again to spite E.L. If he is not careful, E.L will spend so much time fighting his ‘perceived enemies’ and lose sight of 2016. These enemies are gaining political mileage off his reactions. In the end, people will give HH a sympathy vote for all he is being put through. Remember the late MCS and tear-gas, rumors of collapsing…..1 million miles ahead of R.B in political mileage. Careful not to fall into that trap.
My advice to president Lungu is to take it easy and be smart.This move plays well in HH’s hands.HH is distracting Lungu from concentrating on the economy and come 2016 he will have achieved nothing and the people will vote him out.HH will buy the much needed publicity from Lungu and this case will only set fire and Lungu will not win.Sata also used the same tactics on RB ,when he openly said that he had op information on his desk at famers house everyday before RB lays his hands on it.
The fact that lungu is bothered by the intelligence leak which HH published shows that the information disclosed by HH is very true.
If the information HH disclosed was false, Lungu would not have been rattled by it. He would have dismissed it as nothing to undermine his authority.
Now that Lungu is troubled to the extent of directing the police to question HH when not long ago, when Mr Matapa was brutally murdered Lungu said he should not be the one to direct the police to arrest any criminal but the police should judge for them selves.
Lungu’s move proves that the police are there to protect his political establishment and not the citizens at large.
The woman was beaten with her son, Lungu never moved swiftly to direct the police to investigate.
Lungu is a PF thug also.
@WANZELU
DONT BE SO NARROW MINDED MAN. U THINK HE WONT QUESTION THEM? IT’S OP MIND U!! HH IS JUST “HELPING WITH THE INVESTIGATION”.. AND U SAY “BRING IT ON” ‘AND SEE FIRE’! SO U DELIBERATELY PROVOKE SITUATIONS SO THAT WHEN U ARE PROSECUTED BY LAW U “BRING FIRE” YET U ARE SO DESIROUS OF RULING THIS COUNTRY? HONESTLY U PEOPLE ARE VERY SICK! WHY SUCH SELFISHNESS?
Lungu. go and ask the OP and not HH
MR PRESIDENT, THEY DON’T EVEN NEED TO BE ORDER. LEAKAGE OF SECURITY INFORMATION INTO WRONG HANDS SUCH AS HH SAID INFORMATION IS LEAKED TO HIM BY OP IS A SERIOUS OFFENSE ON THE PART OF THE LEAKER AND THE RECIPIENT. POLICE SHOULD JUST ACT WITHOUT EVEN INSTRUCTING THEM. POLICE, IT SEEMS LIKE DON’T KNOW WHAT THEIR JOB DESCRIPTIONS ARE. OR ARE OUR POLICE TRAINED ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT AND WHAT IS NOT AN OFFENSE- A SERIOUS ONE FOR THAT MATTER? IS OP THAT CORRUPT FOR SURE TO SELL INFORMATION JUST LIKE THAT? IF OP CAN SELL INFO JUST LIKE THAT, THEN THERE IS NO SECURITY IN ZAMBIA. HH MUST TELL THE NATION WHICH OFFICER OR GROUP OF OFFICERS WHO GIVE(S) HIM TOP GOVERNMENT SECRETS. AND LET THEM ACCOUNT FOR THEIR DEEDS. THIS IS NOT JUST LIKE A RUMOUR. IT’S FROM THE HORSE’S MOUTH.
Lackluster Lungu in another mishap. Doesn’t this guy see the potholes on the road?
@Wanzelu; sure bring it on. You and your lot will be clobbered. Don’t be delusional. The Zambian people don’t love HH that much to risk their lives for him. HH invested too much money in the last elections and borrowed heavily. Now he is desperate and willing to destabilize Zambia so he can rule through the sword. I used to like HH but recently his image simply oozes bitterness. He might just be the one to bring war in Zambia.
WE LONG TOLD YOU THAT LUNGU IS VINDICTIVE! LUNGU THINKS THAT HH IS A NON-ENTITY AND A NO FACTOR IN OUR COUNTRY. LUNGU SHOULD BE REMINDED THAT THERE ARE MILLIONS OF ZAMBIANS BEHIND HAKAINDE HICHILEMA. TRY TO TEMPER WITH HH, AND YOU WILL SET ZAMBIA ON FIRE! WE SHALL ENFORCE A REVOLUTION. WE SHALL FIGHT! HH IS MORE POPULAR THAN YOU LUNGU IN OUR COUNTRY. IF YOUR POLICE DARE TOUCH HH, THEN YOU ARE DECLARING WAR!
@WANZELU-Please…by Zambia you mean Southern Province? Please be clear! He mentioned an alarming statement, he must be investigated. Just because you are Tonga doesn’t mean you have to be dumb as well!
LINGU WILL SOON TRIGGER WAR IN ZAMBIA. LUNGU IS NOT A STRAIGHT FORWARD PRESIDENT. LUNGU’S BOSSES ARE OUTSIDE THE COUNTRY, AND THEY GAVE HIM A MISSION TO DESTROY ZAMBIA. WATCH THE SPACE!
@Truth. No one is going to start a war on behalf of HH and if HH is more popular than Lungu, then he should have been in state house right now. HH missed his chance to be president in the last election. HH and the rest of the you guys(UPND) are very bitter and will remain bitter. Getting Intel that is intended for the eyes of the president is a serious crime and you should UPND should hope their childish leader was merely ranting when he said he controls the OP. No one will go to war if HH is arrested.
HH has brought it upon himself.It is a very serious offense the world over for anybody to have in their possession a classified document without authority.This issue is not a joking or political matter.Some of the intelligence reports border on State security and if our security system is so lax that a character like HH can easily be given a secret intelligence report,what about the sympathizers of these religious fanatics who have plenty of money to bride their way,will our security personnel manage to refuse to sell the information? God have mercy.
first let me cough kokokoko
This kolokombwa of a bastard dental formula ka small dictator suffering from umutima ubukali for RB to be at the helm calling shots now mucifukushi ati arrest HHHHHH
Ba bwana go ahead and nakabili ati go ahead
and see how Zambia will be on fire .
ulefilwa ukulala pantu nawishiba ati Breakaway party ili munshila
ukashala na RB na ba mumbwe banobe ifwe nacipwa we are behind some one influential
To hell you Vodka who the hell do you think you are .
Sooner than later you will be left with RB and Mpezeni
Alot of UPND are also part of OP, Police, IT specialists in defence and OP. He is not speakin from without.
The police are a joke! Starting with their uniform. They are supposed to be non partisan but it clear that they are too terrified to make any moves to investigate. They have to be directed. This is the problem with the President appointing top brass in the police force. There has to be a better way of doing this.
By the way, did you know that the Tonga equivalent of “Chumbu Mushololwa” is “ULACHINYA!”
yes question hh, this is the same information hh passes to the watchdog.ba kapokola ba zumufyanta mapolo
Jonas, aka shakas, aka wanzelu…
education has not helped you at all wasn’t using the motel other than for other things enough? Now you want to revenge what? the stoning of a car? The Government Printer that humble man would be saddened by what you have become there is no need for violence…2016 cast your vote when you lose again change your leadership and your ways…..Oh and get a copy of the State Security Act and the Zambia Security and Intelligence Service Act to provide you an answer of what offence one can be charged with if in possession to intelligence information don’t let bar room lawyers tell you lies…
Under 5 politician, HH, needs to be questioned so that he begins to understand that seeking to undermine the state institutions you wish to serve Zambians under is foolishness of the highest order. Should it be proved to be mere politicking, then Zambians will stop to take HH seriously for what he says. Should the interrogation of HH and investigation of the Special Branch yield anything, then the moles can be smoked out so HH can look after them with their families. It is shocking to see how UPND good-for-nothing cadres on this site seem to down play the gravity of this issue.
Time to handle Icilema the only way he deserves, by being not only seen to be in charge of the country, but also to firmly and effectively be in-charge of Zambia. To put it simply, Icilema has gone over the top, and it’s time to rein him in.
But Lungu the Office of the President should be used to protect citizens and not to help you hold onto power. A woman was recently battered in the market by suspected PF thugs, why didn’t you swiftly move in the police to investigate the suspects and bring them to book? To date those thugs are still free.
But when it affects your hold onto power you quickly want to bring the police to investigate. These are politics HH is playing on you and you might make him a hero. You are the president but why are you worried?
Iwe kapuli. We are talking about the nation, not just that one woman in the market. Think!
Kavuyi, so u want the President to instruct the Police on what to do on each and every issue. Don’t be so dull. The issue of intelligency affects the whole Nation and hence the Presidents concern
Edgar you have also started chasing the wind just Sata. You will not manage. Focus on national development.
Exactly my thoughts, Hypnotised Hyena is just playing politics. ECL should not worry about this four time loser! Just focus on national issues, and talking about national issues, definitely that masonist is not one of them!
Blame it on your trustees I mean, if you are three people in a closed door meeting bearing classified material, you obviously use highly classified channels to get it secured, if then it ends up in unwanted hands were should you first look at? Secondly HH has proven to love Zambia and Zambians more unlike some people!
SH.IT u ar hav no respect fo pocupine lik u go to heel with yo HH
@ kelvin
Why are you using language of ZWD contributors here?
Looks like Hichilema is about to get what he asked for. Mugwileni azagona mundende….
We in UPND are waiting for the police to move in quickly so we can burn Lusaka and avenge our suffering at the hands of PF thugs.
Briiiiiiiing it on so we can spark it please Lungu do not delay.
In all of Lusaka’s compounds we are ready and waiting.
Wanzelu, in Lusaka you morons (UPND cadres on LT) who want violence so much lost and if that is what you want to go by, you will be so out numbered and clobbered such that your demented president – HH will be crying to the international community to impose sanctions on Zambia due to abuse of human rights. Please stop inciting violence. Pf supporters plus police will make UPND cadres mash potato with cabbage, the recipe of Nazi concentration camps.
We all should be preaching peace not ‘bring on violence’! Most of you preaching violence behind your key boards will not even physically step up when push comes to shove! Neither HH nor Lungu deserve Lusaka being burnt down because of them. I don’t live in Lusaka but that is the capital city of Zambia.
This is a very big problem that Zambia keeps suffering from. Why does it need a President to direct/order the police to question a citizen if they think he has committed a criminal offence? Why should the President work for the police? This has now been politicized because the police are now working as police-politicians. Yes it was reckless for HH to insinuate that he control the OP. He must sober up a bit with his political rhetoric and let Lungu rule until the next elections because that’s what’s gona happen anyhow. Lungu must be a bit tolerant sometimes. Concentrate on your promises because you’ve got little time left yo fulfil all those promises you made.
Wanzelu, yu have nothing for u to wage a war. And the Police teti bamifilwe, yu can be crashed in an instant. Wilsabaila fye sober up, be norma accept defeat and plan fo 2016
This chap Edgar is not sharp. All he thinks about is crushing others like bricks. Even me I have my own intelligent who gives me some information. Is that an offence?
What charge is this going to be. Who will handle it given that Mutembo you have been battering seems to be on top of things.
The moment HH admitted to fraudulently obtaining classified material and presidential secrete files from the OP was the moment I started doubting his presidential calibre. Politicking is one thing but boasting about performing a crime is just too streetwise to be associated to a presidential hopeful. I don’t think this is defensible.
Intelligence is just a piece of information. There is absolutely nothing wrong in some one accepting that he has intelligence information.
Under which law is Lungu going to prosecute HH. HH is always miles ahead of these chimbwis. For him to issue such a statement he knows that he is under no obligation to disclose his sources and they is no law against possession of classified documents in Zambia.
If there is please quote it for me.
@ wanzelu
Pls. check State Security Act and penalties for disclosure of State documents marked Top Secret, Secret and Confidential
So HH should just remove the “TOP SECRET” watermark from the OP document and it will be washauti.
@Wanzelu- I get baffled at how you try to sound wise with such average fact to back it up!
Why are you defending a man from being investigated if he clearly has nothing to hide?
Habazonda, I was also very disappointed when HH admitted to receiving classified information from OP. He should have kept his senseless mouth shut so that he continues to be a step ahead of EL. I couldn’t believe that he had uttered those words. HH must be regretting it now. Such nonsense! Why brag about it? Hopeless character! It is his arrogance and shooting from the hip!
But this man in other cases he says he will not interfere in the with the police but now what is he doing if not interfering!! Failed president failed country
Cage the made HH or take him to CHAINAMA Dr Mwanza Banda z waitin fo him he belongs there
Kikiki….politicians. He will say he was mis…quoted. He will say he said he controls his own intelligence system in Zambia and that he held his briefings every morning before ECL had his. In 2016 HH and ECL be on the same political side- no permanent friends or enemies!
Edgar will do well to reorganize the office of prosecutions if he has to attain his dream. The police requires strong leadership at the peak, there is no need to sacrifice the country’s peace at the expense of expedience or appeasement. a spade should be called a spade. why should police only move when president says so
Comrades, this is very serious and needs to be handled with the seriousness it deserves. How can some one from outside be running the OP. Does he understand the meaning of OP? Comrades that’s Office of the President, to me this HH has insulted the President. Let the Police investigate and charge him accordingly. This is a COUP!!!
No HH thinks OP is like the privatization of Lima bank he is not serious the other week he was on BBC accusing the Director of Elections in all manner of slander he needs alangizi..what more if he was in plot 1 would we speak or drink water? That’s why the late called him under five…his mode of speech leaves one wondering
Exactly; If you cannot stand the heat, get outta the kitchen!
HH is not a boy you can toss around.Zambia can burn on fire.Twalifilila Musenga.Try it then you will receive the salt on your sores.
Try it ba mwana mbwa u can only manage to burn southern province.
bring it on sido mark. this time we will show you who is in charge. Bring it on indeed!
My friend; Don’t be mistaken, more than 7 million Zambians choose to stay home and not vote, that must tell you that we will not go to burn our lives for a politician. They come and go, the only constant is change!
The Kamfinsa Mobile Unit will crash yu before u even make a move. Don’t deceive yoselves like you are very powerful, you are nothing
@ wanzelu aka ranting dog talkin of burning lusaka wen u hav no limbs (all de 4) claiming to hav pregnanted a lady wen infact u ar castrated kekekeke keep yo heart burning an wory not HH wil rule 1de but nt in 2016
Kelvin you smoke a lot call me on 0977252707.We are not jokers.
This Wanzelu Clown is just an ignoramus who talks without understanding what he says. It is the problem of most UPND cadres who talk the loudest and do not listen to what others have to say. Imagine if this country were to come under their rule the kind of intolerance we would experience. The more reason I can never vote for anyone of their kind!
@SIDO MARK- Eat a dick and die! Why are you displaying your number? You want to suck Kelvin’s cock?
@ SIDO Try it ba mwana mbwa u can only manage to burn southern province. I hav no time an talk time to wast on schizophrenic patient sory am not a psychiatrist
No mad person accepts that they are mad simply because they are mad. Kelvin you are mad. Its only pipo seeing you who can tell that uyu Kolwe Napena……..
@Kelvin UPND is not only for southern province alone.Matapa you killed was a fellow Bemba(Bashi Mulenga)and Mrs Njobvu you beat up is Nyanja.Stop dreaming.I want to remaind you that Its numbers alone that win wars ,its strategies and the type of weapons ,above individual training by those involved.Botswana has only 3milion people but it has one the best army in Africa and very advanced weapons.So Kelvin don’t just wake up and starting yapping because you have been smoking Ganja from Chibolya and assume you can fight.I SIDO MARK iam not a joke .Try it you will see.
Kelvin, it appears SIDO MARK is gay. He is looking for substance to swallow, otherwise I do not see why someone can display his number on a male-dominated website! Little closet faggot!
@sido mat just look at the flag where yu are blogging from. Yu talk of burning lusaka when yu are overseas. HH is not loved in zambia and no one can take to the streets because of hh.
I must state that i first saw this info leakage under the leadership of the late Michael Sata when he was in opposition. He had all the info at his fingertips.
The govt was at pains to pin him down. Now the legacy has fallen on HH, and i am pretty sure it will be difficult to pin him down.
In a democracy it is very difficult to eradicate this vice because of party preferences. You only correct this in a one party state or in a dictatorial regime.
Arrest HH and you will see how the world will rise against you. Take a swipe at the OP officers and not HH.
In one breath Lungu says he will not interfere with the judiciary and parliament and in the other he is ordering the police to investigate HH. Can a sensible person trust such a man. Does he think properly for a president?
Fred is the police part of judiciary or parliament? Looks like all UpDn supporters suffer from lack of reasoning.
But he also swore to defend the constitution which guarantees your liberties as well as your security.
As commander in chief of the armed forces and Defence Minister, the security of the country is his business.
Unfortunately HH confessed to a very serious crime under any jurisdiction, and the law is strongly against him on this one. No wonder I heard him on one radio trying to do a disclaimer because unlike those of you who support blindly, he has now understood his folly and realises he could be charged with the most serious offence of espionage, and treason for trying to usurp the powers of the President namely: wanting to control security forces or causing them to report to him instead of their boss and thereby wanting to make himself the commander of the armed forces illegally.
We shall escort HH to Woodlands Police Station and guess what??? The same Lungu will regret of his action in an event HH is locked up. We shall fight tot he bitter end.
Enough is Enough.
What can you do imwe ba Kolwe?
He has been locked up before. What did you do? Stop overrating yourselves!
Bitterness . You just got nothing to do. Try your foolishness and the law will visit you, period. You will share same cell with your cows ,this time around. Namwamba ukutumpa sana
He claimed to be in possession of classified information.So he should explain why and in which capacity he is receiving such information.
If such “classified” information is in public domain, then is not “classified” anymore.
@Aleshaday- If you think that statement is wise, it is utter rubbish! He is being investigated because he CLAIMS to have information that is rendered “CLASSIFIED”. Let’s be sober!
@ ngalande but u felt to do that at ur fellow I.diot’s funeral
We have said it in the past your excellence that they are some very Ministers in your cabinet who have been interfering with operations of other Ministries and we would not be surprised that the same people leak information to the opposition.
Whenever other Ministries make decisions, they want to interfere and control them as if those Ministries report to them. We are glad that you have seen what we have been saying. Specifically, the Minister of Finance thinks he can bulldoze everyone including yourself and this is not good.
Some people who you have removed from their positions are so bitter like HH and these are the same that have infiltrated your system and you need to completely purge them out and work with only those you can truly trust, it happens all over the world.
Secret code you are a UPnDN bitter loser who wants to bring division in the PF Govt, but anyway u won’t succeed
That was a careless talk ba HH. Too much bad eggs in the OP also.
yayayaya this is really getting hot. Ine naumfwa umwenso. I cant run and I dont know where to run to. Please people stop this rot…
“Mumbwe ukulila ninshi kuli uko ashintilile amatako” HH cannot just yap he must have some facts about the classified information leakage. It is sad for the police also to wait for instructions from the head of state to question what is in public domain! If it is a common person they would have been clashing to arrest the individual! Wake up ba kapokola. The police should go further to establish the source. Whoever will be found wanting chuck him/her, in fact there alot of credible people with better qualifications in the country.
this issue of top secret and confidential files being leaked is no new thing in Zambia, i for one have heard of it for sometime. It is this behavior that leads to failed states. i know if you are not infected you are affected, hence lets stop this behavior tomorrow we will find our issues in the public domain.
Lungu is having sleepless nights at plot one. It’s his drinking buddies that are leaking the intelligence info. Advice to Lungu; Start drinking alone.
HH is just an attention seeker, Mr. Presido just ignore this under five politician ,HH is still far from attaininng political maturity , he is just too childish in way he handles issues no wonder TAKA TEKEPO !!!! chalilembwa NAKU heaven ,not untill he denounces tribalism in his party , and Changes the mindset of his supporters , his supporters blasphems God by placing HH in the place of God, they exhalt him and worship him as if he were god , God is jealous and he will never Allow HH to be president becuase people can start worshipping him instead of God and he grows up or matures and Humbles himself COZ GOD does not like other wise even 2016 its KOLOPA DOT COM FOR HH his supporters and himself
5 days worrying? When will EL start governing?
He is governing; In case you are in denial, you are paying your taxes to him!
Where on earth have you seen or heard someone who was appointed and later dropped or fired start demeaning the appointing authority to the extent of threatening to beat them? Anyone can be appointed and removed from public office when the appointing authority deems it fit and you can’t start challenging such decisions as if those institutions are private entities.
Some of your Minister wanted by all means to be appointed Vice President when the whole country knows that she has messed up in the past and has together with other Minister been trying to control strategic institutions by employing relatives. These are the ones that have been promoting nepotism Your Excellence. As Zambians we support the appointments your have done so far in strategic institutions and continue cleaning up.
Secret code, you don’t mean what yu just said. In fact yu wished he had appointe yo fellow upnd/ Tongas. Yu wish he didn’t appoint so many from LP or NP etc you so full of hate. God sees yo dirty heart and He cannot allow yu to come into power
Lungu is getting sidetracked. Soon he will be herding Hichilema’s cattle.
Lol. *dead* You are crazy. So now the presido needs a job to keep him busy eh? I have read some ‘HOT,HOT’ comments above. Since we cannot punch each other or gun brawl, I strongly suggest we just start bewitching each other. Me, no one should try, just a friendly warning, the man with a traditional laptop is my uncle.
Hahahaha, no way, in case you do not know, Lungu flies in a jet on a DAILY basis! HH is on land! Roger that!..You pay your taxes to Lungu, so does HH! Let us not criticize for the sake of it. HH made an alarming statement, he must be investigated.
2o16 will be more painful for HH. HH supporters stop messing around with God , you like exhalting HH as if he is god. if you want to see HH in state house stop worshiping Him , the way you sing about hh’s mansions and riches awe kwena ,thats why God will never allow him to rule not until you stop idolising him . no wonder why he is pompous coz you worship him too much.
So if it bothered him for 5 days why didn’t he not call a press conference at State House? He is happy to talk to press in RSA on TV but not happy to talk to people in Zambia live who pay his salary…power already started corrupting is small brain…when are these empty tins going to relies that a swear-in ceremony is not a time to lecture your appointees and issue silly directives like old man Sata did.
Come on @Jay Jay
Chief Justice promised to find out delays in the Justice system as a way of letting us know the thrust of her job from the onset.
I think it was apt in the circumstance, that the President discuss legal matters at hand. If he called a press conference every time HH coughed nonsense we’d get bored. Such is HH’s reputation for nonsense. Just a bit of mind control…Mambilima will remember to expediate (expedite?) HH’s matters before the law!
This way it’s almost comical….like he is taking him serious and calling his bluff.
Ati “it needs the input of all stakeholders including the Bar” Mr president Zoona.
And you thought he meant the beer hall?
ba Mike ask any lawyer what is meant by the Bar. Don’t expose your lack of education.
ECL should be careful. he has no majority support only a fool will deny that. he avoid a party conversion, he used the security agents to rig elections. If he thinks he can adopt Mugabe’s tactics it wont work in Zambia. There is tension and violence can break anytime. when people are angry they fear no weapon.
Thanks the for choosing Mambilima but there number of case to be done; ie Churches. some have been without judgement for over 6 years. Political cases are fast to in judgement. Chief Justice should check the records in the Superem court
Like many people bloggers here, I have very limited knowledge on legal matters, but when HH said he had access to intelligence files before President Lungu did, I knew that was not the way to go. Politicking is one thing but boasting about having access to the intelligence files is another. Despite all this brouhaha, I support HH through and through.
This is our great President at play.
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‘President Lungu said the Police should investigate to ascertain whether Mr. Hichilema’s claims are true or are just aimed at bringing confusion in the country through mere politicking.’
Either way, HH is prosecutable. If he HAS he will go to jail. If NOT he is an affirmed Rouble Rouser, and will lose respect in our eyes……not that there was much left after his horribly childish campaign where he promised every one would become rich under him,…….the Mines Robber.
Piece of advice to your HH, tone down and please don’t overate yourself. They say if you piss in your pants you can only stay warm for so long and worse still a very cold jail cell is a poor substitute for your wife Hakaninde Hi-smoething whatever your name is! Wina azalila don’t think your stup!d vuvuzela like Wanzelu (chikopo) and Sido Mark (same person) will help you uza chucha weka! Boma ni boma, okay…
Iam not wanzelu I also need to meet him person.We must have something common.If you intelligent you will discover that my style of commenting is different including the choice of words.I come from military back ground and wanzelu will never use my language.Iam not Tonga and I am a very disciplined person,but iam true to what I say.Dont underrate HH.The UPND is very strong with a lot of highly trained people who are volunteer to there time and resources because Zambia deserves better.If provoked we can react in a manner well educated and trained people can react not that Kaponya type.
Very comical.
I do sympathies with ECL, he clearly presiding over a very
divided nation which he has admitted himself; he has enemies within his own party who are not happy with the manner in which he ascended into power, then he has embraced RB who has very heavy baggage.
Unbelievable also that Kaingu is one of the Minister’s in a PF led
Government, the same Kaingu who rubbished and tore Sata’s speech in Parliament 2012. Is this how you uphold late Sata’s legacy?
ECL should focus on having a robust working team, address tribalism, nepotism, violence, unemployment, mineral taxes etc. should aim to win the hearts of those who did not vote for him and the skeptics towards 2016.
Be to his own detriment if he focuses more on crushing opposition and travel there is not…
He just want to flash all the Tongas in op offices.
There is no doubt that Edgar Lungu is the most despicable president ever to rule Zambia. He is operating on a very thin line. He is like a mosquito, cockroach or house fly. His actions can easily set the country on fire. Even within his own party, many are keenly waiting like hungry wolves. He needs to sober up and stop ordering the police around. This is not about HH alone but about how aggrieved the whole country is.
SOME PEOPLE ARE MADE PRESIDENTS BUT STILL REMAIN FOOLS. IS LUNGU NORMAL? DOES HE THINK HH CAN DISCLOSE ANY INFORMATION TO POLICE CONCERNING HOW HE COLLECTS INFORMATION FROM THE RULING PF GOVERNMENT SO THAT HE CAN EFFECTIVELY DISCHARGE HIS DUTIES AS OPPOSITION LEADER IN OFFERING CHECKS AND BALANCES. LUNGU’S GOVERNMENT IS A SYNDICATE OF CRIMINALS, AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR INTELLIGENCE DEPARTMENT TO REVEAL THE SECRETIVE DEALS THAT THIS CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT OF EDGAR CHAKOLWA CHAGWA KALE LUNGU IS DOING, SO THAT ZAMBIANS ARE NOT DISADVANTAGED BY THESE SELFISH CRIMINALS IN LEADERSHIP. LUNGU KNOWS THE DIRT HE IS DOING, AND HE IS SCARED THAT THINGS ARE COMING IN THE OPEN!
And you are a bigger FOOL because he leads you and he is your President. You pay taxes to him. So everytime you want to swear at him, remember that the biggest fools are the followers of a FOOL. Tell your momma I said HEY!
If there was no HH on the political scene I don’t know what job Lungu would be doing. Since he dubiously became president all you hear from him every other day are threats on HH and the falling tons of bricks. He sleeps HH, dreams HH and hallucinates HH. He is the same one who declared publicly that he has information about the murder of Ruth Mbandu but to-date he has not been questioned. WHY??
Dubiously? Are you normal you skunk? HH is a perennial loser because he thinks being Tonga will get him into office? I actually do not know what you will do when HH is confined to his political orbituary in 2016. The way Tongas voted, this time when the PF base shows up to vote, forget even getting half of the votes the PF will get. Skunks! Tell your father my dog said HEY!
@London Eye
Can’t stop laughing at your comment. Nice one though!
HH should have known better that this is a treasonable of fence and if proved true I feel pity for him.
3 MONTHS IN THE GAME- AND WHAT DID HE DO…KOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPAKOLOPA
BA LUNGU,LIMBI WALIKOLWA ELYO WATAMPA UKUSABAILA ELYO BAMYUFWA…..PLEASE LEKENI UKOLWA PANTU TAMWAKALEKE UKUSABAILA. NORMALY WHEN ONE IS DRUNK ,HE SAYS A LOT OF THINGS INCLUDING TOP SECRETS.
Corruption is rampant in PF Gvt
Why not cite evidence? Typical Zambians! So I can make an allegation that INCEST is rampant in your home without proof? There you go, think about that!
Where is Moses wanomba!!!!!?? HH was cheated that the 20th January, 2015 elections would be in his favour. Muvi TV and Zambian Watch dog were in the fore front. What has happened to Moses wanomba? Is he still Moses? If you have read the Bible properly, you can recall that Moses never reached the promised land. So will your Moses ba PUND (UPND)! Moses is trying to attract attention of others so that he can reach the promised land, a thing that will never happen!!!!
Moses did not enter the promised land, Joshua (EL) did! So it is safe to say…He can be Moses.
He can never even be a Moses. The character is a fraud of a politician. All he knows is stealing money thru privatization. He thinks he can steal more by being President. We will not allow it. HH should know this that he is losing again come 2016.
whoops maama yee
KINDLY READERS OF THIS WEB SITE ASSIST ME WITH THE MEANING OF BITTRNESS.WAS CHILUBA BITTER WITH KAUNDA OR WAS SATA BITTER WITH RUPIAH
You want to know the meaning of bitterness?…just look HH in the face…there, you have it!
OUR PRESIDENT IS AN AMATEUR IN THE GAME OF POLITICAL POWER. HE SHOULD READ THE 33 STRATEGIES OF WAR AND THE 48 LAWS OF POWER TO UNDERSTAND THE TECHNIQUES OF THE GAME. OTHERWISE ONE DAY HE WILL SPEND THE NIGHT UP IN THE TREE THINKING THAT HH HAS SHIFTED INTO NKWANZI. OUR PRESIDENT APPEARS TO LACK CONFIDENCE AND COURAGE. HE IS FAINT-HEARTED.
But your professional of a politician fails to connect with ordinary Zambians countrywide and keeps on losing? Does this not tell you he is just an under-five perpetual under-performer judging him by the number of times he has lost? Very soon he will break a record of political losses in the Guinness Book of World Records, if he has not done so already. To hell with this Freemason! Who wants to be ruled by a Freemason?
Do not be delluded, reading books does not make one a better leader. Lungu is governing and that is what matters most!
All those commenting against HH are baaibwaa!! I have ready all your comments, its all nonsense!! Do you see HH at state house?? Your Sata failed in 3 three years!! Follow him (HH) so you spark what you were avoiding!! Us we are ready here!!
Lungu has played in the hands of HH. Any intelligent opposition leader can exploit EL’s glaringly open weaknesses! Emotional and somewhat insecure. One moment he says he does not direct police on anything and next day, he is issuing instructions to Libongani. If the past five days have worried EL, it will be worse if ever police dare HH. He has a huge following mind you….the last elections are enough evidence you stand shoulder to shoulder if you did not know. Do not give HH an inch into your emotions if you want to be a happy president; you have more to lose than he does.
So mulefwaya ukufilila munsenga, sorry it won’t happen
There is no need to instruct police, op or whatever,…The same police, op or whatever gave HH the info he is talking about….what next….Lungu should just retire high ranking police, op or whatever, but careful, they understand the business far more than ECL.
Lackluster Edgar Lungu now in desperation for a job to start milking HH’s cows. Or is he just micromanaging the police? Or are the police clueless as to their duty???
while we support HH that was a VERY CARELESS statement. even if you control the OP whether in your dreams or whatever you just keep it to yourself bwana
I am wondering if Wanzelu and others blindly supporting HH’s transgressions are familiar with the provisions of State Security Act and the Zambia Security and Intelligence Service Act. In other countries, if you breach equivalent acts to these you go into the cooler for a very, very long time.
Wanzelu deludes himself that if HH is arrested UPND members will set the country on fire. I suspect Wanzelu believes Southern province is a country! I am posting this from Kitwe, the hub of the Copperbelt, and most people I have talked to are not amused by HH’s and UPND’s provocative behaviour. When Sata – at the height of his popularity – was briefly jailed for a false charge of vehicle theft, did PF members set the country on fire?
As all Zambians know, our group/organisation; the ‘Accurate Source is the most respected group of highly educated political bloggers with Professors in Law and Poitics being fully subscribed members.
And on the issue of Intelligence between HH and Edgar Lungu, the stand of the Accurate Source is that HH is gaining political momentum which will be difficult for Edgar Lungu to conquer. This means that Edgar Lungu’s popularity is fast going down while HH’s popularity is climbing at a lightening speed.
On 20th January 2015, HH’s popularity stood at 47% while that of Edgar Lungu was at 48%.
Currently HH is at 54% while Lungu is sliding at 46%. This is because majority of PF Members believe Edgar is proving to be a wrong successor for the Late PF Strong Man Micheal Sata.
Edgar…
Too bad to see Presido ECL already having sleepless nights! Power is already getting him drunk. I am sure he is going to fire Charity Katanga soon after she presents her findings of the investigations. He will call it “rubbish” just like Late MCS rubbished a lot of reports of the various commissions of inquiry put in to investigate various issues. The police is incompetent to do serious investigations without using crude methods like force or threats! RB called on security wings to investigate Zambian Airways k14million, up to now they have failed to take anyone to court. Anything a president speaks out of anger and by giving orders will never yield his desired results and that will just make him look more foolish Investigate how the mines have defrauding poor Zambians on taxes!…
Moses will never rule Zambia. come next elections we shall teach him a better lesson that will frustrate his political career.
President lungu we did not vote for you so that you can start working on oppos but to work on the dolla and the kwache so that life of zambians can be ok.as a zambian what ist i get from ordering the cops?just do the work or you can ask from us zambians what to be done that is the reason you are at state house dear.
It’s very easy to differentiate people who contributing with intelligence knowledge and those just contributing without any shred of knowledge. Anyone who has worked in the intelligence world will say leaking classified information to anyone without the authority criminal offence just as anyone accessing medical notes for someone without proper evident of usage can be jailed under the law. Lungu is not my cup of tea however, HH has messed up and put some people in awkward position especially those who may hail from the areas seen as they are sympathisers towards him. Someone mentioned late Sata as always knowing what was happening in the govt. Sata never disclosed or boasted about receiving classified information coz he knew / had better understanding of the implication for leakers
There is no country that wants to develop runs this way!
ok but am not partisan but these upnd supporters have blind loyalty and will stop at nothing to bring confusion in our beautiful country. If your HH were to drop dead(God forbid) these chaps would cry like headless chickens and go chiyeyeye, what a shameful group of pipo
I think Edgar C Lungu is abusing his authority as it is not his responsibility to do police work. I thought Zambia police was an independent organisation? There is suppose to be separation of powers.
So, when there is violence by cadres, you want Lungu to instruct the police to stop violence. When your overzealous political leader literally commits treason, you want Lungu to fold his arms. Hakainde has become dangerously careless – he is now a danger to the country. If he has been advised that he needs some jail-time in order to become president – he needs to seriously re-evaluate his strategy.
Problem we have per Zed is that presidents get so drunk and think that they’ll rule forever. KK thought so. Kafupi wanted to go for a third term and persecuted KK who is still alive. RB troubled Sata and Sata trouble RB and Sata is gone with RB around. Lungu is supposed to be in office according to Nigerian prophet and instead of spending his energy on development he wants to waste time to harass HH. You will achieve nothing. Didn’t Sata tell RB that he was going to have parallel ruling structures? Did Sata get intelligence briefing or not when in opposition. No seasoned OP will waste their time on your request. He or she knows that Lungu will be gone and HH will be next president. What charge will he lay on HH if he says that he was just joking to see Lungu’s reaction.
After reading all above contributions, I am at loss with majority contributors which have missed cardinal points in this issue:
1. The President has exceeded his Constitutional powers in directing ZP to investigate only HH without even mentioning origins of such “classified” information;
2. Having said that, I am at loss to understand difference between this issue and disclosure of “classified” documents used in legal proceedings in the case of transfer of “instruments of power” between then Acting President and Vice President?
3. After all, State Security Act relates not just to the “recipient” of “classified” information but, most importantly, to the origin of such information.
The President is not bad, he needs to be supported by every one in order for our country to run better. we should give him support in all provinces. The issue is with court Judges. The chief Justice should work hard. If the judges are not working he should be given a provision to fire or send them off.
There are cases that have stayed 6 to 10 years. Especially CHURCH CASES nothing is done. Some cases are not even difficult but just needed the court to guide the members. This system of saying adjournment should be avoided. come next week or adjourned to next year is not fair. I repeat Chief Justice should check supreme and High court case. So that a fair judgments should be taken to all Citizens.