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Presidential order to investigate and arrest UPND leader may dent Zambia’s human rights image

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President Edgar Lungu during the Swearing in Ceremony of Mr Malcom Mutale Mulenga Deputy IG, Stanslous Agrippa Mukuka Chewe as Commissioner of Police Northern Province,Mr Hudson Namachila Commissioner of Police Eastern Province,Mr Auxensio Daka Commisione
President Edgar Lungu during the Swearing in Ceremony of Mr Malcom Mutale Mulenga Deputy IG, Stanslous Agrippa Mukuka Chewe as Commissioner of Police Northern Province,Mr Hudson Namachila Commissioner of Police Eastern Province,Mr Auxensio Daka Commisioners

The Young African Leaders Initiative (YALI) is appealing to President Lungu to moderately exercise his powers and control of security forces such as the police force by avoiding issuing directives as was the custom with past Presidents to arrest opposition leaders for political statements they make. The directive to the police to investigate Opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema and his eventual arrest will dent the good image the President has, of late, been building and will defeat his message on the need for tolerance.

If the President found the statement by the UPND leader that he controls the Office of the President criminal, he should have done some personal reflection on why the entire Police Command had not acted or moved in to enforce the law against Hakainde Hichilima but had to wait for him to give a directive to investigate and arrest HH for remarks that were issued many days ago. And if truly President Lungu had found the words by HH criminal during his reflection and that the police were not arresting or investigating HH, the best he would have done was to put his house in order and not directing who should be investigated or arrested.

[pullquote]We all remember that President Lungu’s late boss, Mr. Sata used to openly boast that he had PF members in Rupiah Banda’s Cabinet itself and that he knew what RB dreamed even before Rupiah Banda even dreamt it.[/pullquote]

We feel the speed at which the Police are moving in to investigate and arrest HH will send a wrong signal about the reign of President Lungu. President Lungu has been trying to rebuild the country’s human rights image which was dented and it would be wrong for him to begin directing the police to investigate and arrest citizens who issue such political statements as controlling the OP.

We all remember that President Lungu’s late boss, Mr. Sata used to openly boast that he had PF members in Rupiah Banda’s Cabinet itself and that he knew what RB dreamed even before Rupiah Banda even dreamt it. Late President Sata used to make the same boast when he was the opposition leader but he was not arrested for such political statements, and there is nothing even remotely criminal in a politician spewing such statements which are nothing but political bluster.

The directive to investigate and arrest HH will only serve to show that the President has no confidence in his men and women under the OP. We wonder what charge the Police will concoct to just please the President that they have Hakainde Hichilima in court because we know that our laws have no charges for idle boasting. We think that what the UPND leader said is nothing but a political statement intended to make the president uncomfortable, and HH seems to have succeeded as can be seen by the directive.

The least the the President should have done was to warn HH about making statements which have a tendency to undermine state security. That would have been enough. Then he should have ordered an INTERNAL investigation to uncover the mole, if there is one. That is how you deal with state security – on the quiet, and then drop a bombshell once you have the culprit

Isaac Mwanza
Governance Advisor
The Secretariat
Young African Leaders Initiative (YALI)

122 COMMENTS

    • AND PRESIDENTIAL KEEPING QUIET MAY PUT THIS COUNTRY IN JEOPARDY. HH’S RANTS ABOUT OP, ARE OF SERIOUS NATURE THAN SOME REALIZE. THAT WAS A DIRECT ATTACK ON THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT. AND THAT OFFICE HAS TO RESPOND, WHICH IT HAS DONE. NOTHING WRONG HERE

    • AS MUCH AS I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT WAS WRONG FOR PRESIDENT LUNGU TO ORDER THE POLICE. IT WAS WRONG FOR ONE MAN CALLED HH TO SAY WHAT HE SAID TO SOME OF US IT WAS A CONFIRMATION THAT HH IS SI INMATURE, VERY CHILDISH AND USELESS AT THE SAME TIME. OH HOW I WISH UPND CAN WAKE UP AND REPLACED HIM WITH SOME ONE MORE MATURE THAN THIS UNDER FIVE CHAP

    • The Rainbow party will ensure mediocrity and induced reciprocity is the thing of the past

      Believe in the Rainbow Party

      Thanks
      Bb2014

    • I’m also of the view that POLICE should not be used as a weapon against political opponents.
      They should instead be left to discharge their duties professionally.

    • LET LUNGU DARE DOING ANYTHING STUPID! I THINK IT’S NOW ABOUT TIME. ZAMBIA NEEDS A SHAKE-UP, AND I THINK IS THE CONDUIT FOR THIS SHAKE-UP HE HIMSELF IS A CRIMINAL. TOUCH ON HH, DO SOMETHING NASTY ON HIM, THEN THE HOUSE WILL BE UPSIDE-DOWN! ALL EYES ARE WATCHING, ALL EARS ARE HEARING. WE ARE NOT ALONE IN UPND. THERE ARE MANY MORE MILLIONS BEHIND US, BEHIND HH. IF LUNGU WANTS TO TRIGGER VIOLENCE IN ZAMBIA THEN LET HIM GO AHEAD AND ARREST HH. VIVA HH VIVA! VIVA UPND VIVA! VIVA ZAMBIA VIVA! STRONG WIND OF CHANGE IS COMING! IT IS UNSTOPPABLE!

    • @ 1.6 Mweene
      Yes, they can be weapons of the state for maintaining law and order, but not an individuals weapon to fight political opponents.
      They are there to serve the interests of all Zambians and not just an individual called the President or one sector of society called the Ruling Party.
      That’s why Nawakwi said this is not Lungu’s farm, where he can be making orders in personal interest.

    • police to arrest anyone – Lungu

      March 3, 2015 No Comments

      CHRISTINE CHISHA, KAPALA CHISUNKA – Lusaka
      PRESIDENT Lungu says he will not use his powers to interfere with the operations of the police.
      Speaking when he commissioned the Misisi and John Howard police posts in Chawama Constituency yesterday, President Lungu said he wants the police to operate in a professional manner and ensure that the interest of all Zambians is upheld.
      “I will not abuse the law and send the police to arrest people and similarly I will not protect law-breakers. I do have power to order the police but I will not abuse those powers and will not do that,” he said.
      Mr Lungu said no lawbreaker will be spared whether within the Patriotic Front party or outside.
      The Skeleton Key
      ~206~

    • The facts are that, its the Daily nation which fabricated the story after misquoting HH. Lungu’s dogs went to question the journalist, to provide HH’s recorded speech. But nothing incriminating HH was found.

      Lungus ‘s dogs have drawn a blank in both their searches because HH was misquoted by Richard Sakala ‘s journalist all in an effort to frame HH for Lungu ‘s political expediency.

      It seems Richard Sakala has now joined the crusade to demonise HH like what Mmembe did without any success. Whether Sakala is looking for a job from Lungu or not, only him knows better.

      The journalist who wrote that article to frame HH should prepare for a ton bricks to fall on him for fabricating a story mean’t to tarnish HH ‘s image so that Lungu can start intimidating HH as per Mugabe’s…

    • Lungu’s time in office will be associated with oppression especially for those he wants out of his party and the country altogether. Dear Mr President, recall to respect all citizens and be on the restraining side of use or abuse of power.

    • Instead of the police to concentrate on looking for Mr Matapa ‘s killers, Lungu is using them as a tool for political oppression.

      Lungu will turn out to be a worse dictator than Mugabe if Zambians to do something to stop him in his tracks. Evidence shows that people who copy certain bad traits from others tend to exceed the capabilities of their masters.

      When lungu toured Misisi compound he threatened those who were calling for the criminal who assaulted the soweto woman to be investigated. He said he would instead tell the police to arrest those telling to investigate because he did not want to influence police operations.

      And here we are, the one complaining on behalf of the victims of PF violence is the one being persecuted while shielding the actual criminals.

      Viva HH.

    • TRUE COUNTRY OF F.O.OLS BEING LED BY A WORST RIFF RAFF ON THE PLANET .ANNOINTED MAN MWAONA MANJE .MBEBA KINGDOM FROM THE EAST BUSY LOOKING FOR CABBAGES TO EAT JUST C THE MOUTH & TEETH EVER OPEN KU BWENDO THATS WHY WE SAY US
      #2016 BREAKAWAY PARTY FROM THE CURRENT GOVT SAY NO TO RB .
      JUST SEE THE SPEED RB IS INFUSING HIS OWN PIPO OF MULUSA ,KAINGU,MWANAKATWE,MWALE & THEN YOU CABINET MINISTERS & DEPUTY MINISTERS DEPRIVED OF POSTS YOU ARE BUSY SMILING WAKE UP GO SPEAK TO THE LEADER THERE IN CABINET TIME IS NOW TO FLUSH THESE MBEBAZ .
      ALREADY THIS CHAMA DAVIES IS FARTING THAT KAPEMBWA SIMBAO IS PF & WILL BE ADPOTED .
      LOOK SEE AND ACT .

      EDGAR LUNGU IS THE WORST EVER THING HAS LANDED IN STATE HOUSE HUMILITY ALCOHOLISM HUMILITY RB DANCES THAT ALIMUCENJESHA MARRIAGE OF…

    • IWE CHI WANZELU THE RECORDED HH IS THERE LOUD AND CLEAR, LISTEN TO RADIO MY FRIEND. WHERE DO YOU LIVE, IN CAVES?

    • And leading with SO MUCH INCOMPETENCE….BUT WHAT DID THESE PF CADRES EXPECT FROM SUCH A DRUNK…….AKULYENI FYE IFIMENO FYWAKWA EDGAR!!!

    • SOMEONE ALIBA NE CIFUKUSHI AS TO WHY HE ENTERED INTO A MARRIAGE OF DOOM WHERE WHEN HE WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING THE OWNER OF THE MONEY SAYS EDGAR CAN YOU PLEASE TOMMORROW APPOINT HUNGRY MAN MULUSA WITH ARV AS YOUR ADVISOR FASTELE OK BOSS.
      NEXT EDGAR CAN YOU ADOPT KAPEMBWA SIMBAO AND MASAITI ,WANT ALL MMD MPS BACK ITS US RULING MIND YOU,EDGAR CAN YOU HARASS MUTEMBO NCHITO SO THAT HE BE REMOVED YES BWANA.
      EDGAR CAN YOU TRAVEL TO ANGOLA AND DO SOME DEALS FOR ME YES BOSS.
      EDGAR CAN YOU TELL IG TO SEND ARMED POLICE TO HARASS HH YES YES SIR.
      EDGAR CAN YOU TELL NEVERS TO GO TO BRAZIL AS A DIPLOMAT YES YES .
      NEXT WILL BE EDGAR CAN YOU STRIP NAKED OF YOUR PRESIDENT WALILA PAFULA LET ME BE VISIBLE NOW TO THE PUBLIC OH YES UMUTIMA ULEKAKALIPA KA EDGAR

      #2016 BREAKAWAY PARTY FROM THE MBEBA…

    • police were too slow.if he fires the police you will again complain. what else do you want? if the man did say nothing then he will set free. we are in danger because of the carelessness of one HH. we say no to it…………………we need our Zambia in one piece.

    • “We think that what the UPND leader said is nothing but a political statement intended to make the president uncomfortable, and HH seems to have succeeded as can be seen by the directive” ….Surely you are young and know little about the Presidency & governance. The best you can do is not to instruct the President to do what you think is what should have been done…but to keep quiet and learn from those that bore you. They know better than you.
      However, keep on trying to talk, but talk sense. If hh said nothing why are you quizzing yourselves as what to suggest to the President? Only that you the young do not know much about hh. Had you known you would be advising hh AND not the President. I wish you would be visited by the Police one of these days. Amen…..

  1. Ba YALE you think Obama would have tolerated the nonsense from HH just because of democracy. Know your social studies. In South Africa uses the police to brutalise the errant citizens and no International Community complains. HH made a very big blunder and he must pay for it regardless of what your overseas paymasters feel about it.

    • What would have Obama done? Don’t compare your failed state with a proper country were a statement like that is said everyday. If indeed it happened Obama would have disciplined his security personnel.
      Not in your country were the president has no clue

    • Don’t think you are the only who knows what happens there in the USA- just being suspected of being a communist is enough to arrest you. What HH did is tantamount to treason and no country can tolerate such nonsense. China is not a failed state but HHs conduct would have earned him a firing squad- first torture him so that he can reveal who gave him the info.

    • March 3, 2015
      By~CHRISTINE CHISHA, KAPALA CHISUNKA
      PRESIDENT Lungu says he will not use his powers to interfere with the operations of the police.
      Speaking when he commissioned the Misisi and John Howard police posts in Chawama Constituency yesterday, President Lungu said he wants the police to operate in a professional manner and ensure that the interest of all Zambians is upheld.
      “I will not abuse the law and send the police to arrest people and similarly I will not protect law-breakers. I do have power to order the police but I will not abuse those powers and will not do that,” he said.
      Mr Lungu said no lawbreaker will be spared whether within the Patriotic Front (PF) party or outside, hypocrite Lungu said!
      The Skeleton Key
      ~206~

    • @The Engineer- Oh please! You want to sound smart when you clearly are very inconsistent. Why do you cite hypothetical scenarios? The Republicans do not issue statements like HH does. I can also state, what would Reagan have done? You don’t need to second-guess that one!
      HH made a careless statement, that is immature and seriously alarming. He deserves the investigation. As a citizen, I am alarmed that an individual who the majority rejected could be running affairs.

    • FOOLISH STATEMENT OF THE WEEK. DOES IT TAKE STATEHOUSE TO DIRECT THE POLICE TO ACT? YOU ARE IMPLYING THAT THEY DO NOT THINK ON THEIR OWN. GROW UP CADRE!

  2. HH should stop alarming the nation.Sure,how could he say he controls the Op?No country would allow such nonsense.Human rights of making noise without solution.Go and say u control CIA u’ll c how u’ll be fixed ba mambala.Leaders should behave when talking.The man HH lacks wisdom.He likes using provocative language always.There is nothing wrong EL to tell the police to investigate HH.Even in USA Obama would have said the same thing if somebody said apart from the president that he/she controls the CIA.Zambians stop sleeping in the name of humana fimo fimo.The human fimo fimo chaps lack wisdom.The integrity of the country should be protected

    • Integrity of the counntry should be protected my foot! Zambia lost its integrity the moment they put Chakolwa in State House. HH’s statement did not alarm the nation, It only alarmed Lungu

  3. This is the end of Zambia.
    It is now the proverbial “basket case”. Emulating the truculent, and vindictive, machinations of Robert Mugabe.
    I know the CIA and MI5 are monitoring these blogs.
    Guys, please report back, accurately, to your bossed.
    Zambia has just gone back 50 years in time.
    I think President Lungu has to show the world that he is a humble man…AND APOLOGISE TO HH. That will restore his standing as a world leader.

    • Why apologise to HH when it should be HH to apologise for issuing careless remarks. HH is learned and he should behave above board to show a different approach to modern politics the fact that he desires to serve in the highest office of the nation.

    • In fact you should not ashamed to be Zambian, you should ashamed that you are alive and could post such a useless comment! Why should the President apologise to Hakainde? You what are smoking, okay whatever it is please stop. Are you really stup!d?

      @ The Engineer, please stay there where you are, no one needs you in Zambia… engineer pa paper chabe malabishi!

    • Hahaha, well if you are ashamed to be Zambian, you are free to tear your NRC. That said, the CIA is very well aware that Zambia is a functioning democracy and it only acts on reports from the American Ambassador that get to the president. The CIA cannot act on a matter that does not affect American Interests. So before you try to sound ‘wise’, please read the CIA Charter!

  4. what kind of reasoning is this naimwe ba mwanza,what HH said was very bad for a leader like him.and the president never mentioned any word like arresting him.All what he asked for was to know if what he was saying was true or false.
    lets not condemn the president just because we want to be heard ba mwanza.
    the problem with some of you is that you just cant accept the person you called ‘chakolwa’ is your president.
    let your,Halelusa Hagain-HH accept that he lost the election and he will still loose the 2016 one.

    • What’s and who’s YALI, anyway?
      That’s the problem with these fagots in UPeND, they are pepertually bitter and would want to do everything possible to destruct ECL. They are all angry not knowing that anger resides where there is wisdom. Hypnotised Hyena is not wise, how could he issue such a careless statement, and he wants to be President? May be in Sinazeze!

  5. YALI u make too much sense of late and you are very balanced in the manner u look at issues but I have problems with HH and his adopting the Sata tactics. Sata went away with them but that doesn’t meant HH must get away with statements. HH needs to be caged. I however believe in your sound advice to the President. You really haven’t criticised him like was your case when u mingled with those chaps in the Grand collusion. May those with ears listen

  6. human rights when someones statement boarders on security? bane we need to be searious.
    HH must not be emmotional each time he speak.
    thats why he will never rule this country.
    let him remember 2016 he is loosing again

  7. Ndaje , you must be foolish, freedom of speech, you hear people even only ordinary citizens in America criticizing Obama on everything he does his policies, currently even an outsider like Israel prime minister criticizing Obama nothing happens, comparing America to Zambia is unrealistic my friend, Zambia is a failed State. Maybe you can compare Zambia to Zimbabwe. HH or any person are free to say what they want to say, as long as they are not inciting violence. Sata used to say the same thing HH is saying. Drunk Lungu must be careful, maybe he has turned State house into a bar, he is drunk all the time to the extent that he can not think.

    • @ 9 TEN COMMANDMENTS

      I have been under the impression that he wants the job to herd Hichilema’s cattle and become his chief milkman. The attraction is the milk from Hichilema’s cows – a new beverage the president now wants to sample.

    • @Mei Mutungu- Look, being Tonga must not make you lose objectivity. When anyone in HH’s position makes such a statement, it warrants an investigation. He has been daring President Edgar Lungu since he lost the election. Be sober.

    • @ 10.2 ST. Sweet Anus

      Again, I must correct you that I am not Tonga. I am Totela. Please check my postings in the archives section of this blog on that day when HH made that convulsive statement under the title: “I get a copy of the Intelligence Report before it reaches the President’s desk” – HH. I castigated HH on that day. Tongas hit back at me and hated me like hell. I don’t want to repeat what I said – just check it out for yourself.

      However, two wrongs never make a right. President Lungu must not micro-manage the police to his advantage. The directive that President Lungu gave to the police, for them to go and search opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema’s residence is just as half-cooked as was HH’s unbecoming remarks regarding Intelligence reports.

  8. Don’t compare hh to great sata. Sata was loved by zambians at the time he was bragging about the op data. HH popularity is only on the online media with less than 100 supporters.

    • HH’s immitating of MCS leaves much to be desired. He gets the intelligence and passes it on the zambianimbwalook and it is published verbatim. MCS had no newspaper that did what zambianimbwalooks are doing. Even the post would not publish such things. Let him tell the nation who is giving or selling the information to him

    • @YOBO 13, 13 & your fellow PF Cadre Mutondolo….stop dreaming…this is the problem when people cant see beyond their dirty nostrils….Here is something the two of you must digest… If ECL found the statement by HH that he controls the Office of the President criminal, he should have done some personal reflection on why the entire Police Command had not acted or moved in to enforce the law against HH, but had to wait for him to give a directive to investigate and arrest HH for remarks that were issued many days ago. And if truly President ECL had found the words by HH criminal during his reflection and that the police were not arresting or investigating HH, the best he would have done was to put his house in order RIGHT AWAY…..ECL MUST WAKE UP AND STOP BEING AN UNDER FIVE…

  9. So he can make proclaimations that affect the peace of the country and get away with it simply because he is in opposition? No way, even American opposition know better than to make alarming statements, who is he? Politicians come and go but we the people remain!

  10. What are you talking about YALI? That is meddling in State security. No one has the right to do that because it is costly and can lead to
    a lot of blood shed, arrests and unnecessary running around. Innocent children and women will die. Human rights go with responsibilities.
    HH will never be President of this country. No matter how much he tries to draw attention. He will once again be fixed in 2016.

  11. First and foremost we have to ask ourselves who has been responsible for the current human rights outlook. The answer is simple – EL himself. The two ministries that are usually responsible for human rights violations are Home Affairs, Judicially and also the office of the president. EL misses Home Affairs were he was used to instructing the police to arrest the opposition leaders whenever the had private meetings in the guise of public order act. EL is responsible for denting the image of PF and it is only that Zambians have a short memory. I am at pains trying to understand why Zambians settled for this leader.

  12. Every person has the right to information. The source of information comes from everywhere including security institutions and world class leakages is a huge source of information. Today we know some Zambians who hid billions of dollars in Swiss accounts when there is utter poverty in Zambia. We also know the Zambian security system is not professional at the higher level of government. Example, Henry Banda son of RB wanted in Zambia for criminal of fences, slipped into the country and met president Lungu and others and went out of the country again. This information was leaked to me by presidential security team. I receive such information regularly that updates me what is/going to happen in the nation. I know what next will happen in Zambia.
    Who have I offended, probably nobody.

    • But that does not mean that HH should be boasting like that. It is actually HH who has a problem. Eeeee, he should be arrested so that he explains his antics and source of information.

  13. Soon he will order the army to attack Southern Province. That’s all the job he does, planning who next to unleash his police on. A despot ruling by decree in a police state. His deep hatred for Dr Scott tells what kind of character he truly is.

    • Be logical. Scott harmed the PF party greatly and the facts are that if Miles Sampa stood for election, PF would have lost! Scott struck a deal with HH, it is clear!

    • Its very clear, — Tongas’ are damn bitter about HHs’ loss !!! Just go hang if you feel this way you cows. Namutumpa sana .

  14. @ TRUTH,

    Can you please for once be sober? Who do you think you are, that you can support stup1d1ty in the name of HH? What do you think you can possibly do? We can only unleash some recruits from Lilayi and you will be history.

    You think your ka Under Five can continue playing State secrets and expect the Commander In Chief to just watch? In other countries, as we write on this blog, that HH could have vanished! So be careful with the way you relate and dare the Government. That HH is a failure just in case you have not realized this and this time around Libongani has to be extremely firm on careless talkers like HH others we ensure she gets the boot herself and those supporting criminals.

    Under Five cannot start tempering with State Security NO no no, deal with him.

    • YOU ARE A FOOL. YOU LIVE IN A STONE AGE. THIS IS 21st CENTURY MY BOY. YOU AND YOUR KA EDGAR LUNGU CAN DO NOTHING. ZAMBIA IS OUR COUNTRY, AND WE ARE A DEMOCRACY. GO TO AMERICA NOW , AND THE REPUBLICANS KNOW ALL THE SO-CALLED STATE SECRETS FROM WHITE HOUSE. TRY TO TOUCH ANYONE OF AS UPND, AND THAT WILL BE THE END OF YOUR LUNGU AND ALL OF YOU THIEVES!

  15. My brothers and sisters these arguments are will not take you anywhere unless you understand the implications of what is known as a security brief. Get to know that what you are debating is a very sensitive issue and if not checked can land this peaceful nation into choas. We don’t want Zambia to end up like some African countries that have passed through and are passing through difficult times. Its not the issue of who belongs to which political party but the security of this great nation. No Government on this earth will accept its security system to be undermined. Don’t think that refugees from other countries are fools, this is how it starts and if left unchecked trouble begins So before you comment, try to ask yourselves this question: WHAT IS A SECURITY BRIEF? What is wrong is…

    • You are a true child of this great country. Selfish individuals who wants to disturb the peace of this great nation must be resisted at every corner. It doesn’t matter where you come from, this is your one and only country.

  16. HH can do anything to make himself feel like he is the president of Zambia. Grow up man you lost and you will lose again.

    • @ Mei, firstly sober up yourself and you will realise that the man is always sober. You can’t see sobreity in anyone if you yourself are always drunk!

    • Is there a time when you are not Tonga? Pshh am sure he will sober up when he pulls it outta your momma’s behind!

    • @ 22.2 PF Leader

      Raping a 96 year old woman is a serious offense. Now I can see why your president is like that. Shame on him and shame on you too.

    • @ 22.1 id!ot!

      You are deluded by his appearance – sober. It’s the quality of his decisions that betray him. How does one conceive of kidnapping the whole of the DPP from his residence in Lusaka to go and arrest and charge him in Chongwe? How about this search of HH’s residence; what president, in his normal sense would have conceived of such a lame caricature! And you would call that “SOBER”? Or could it be that you don’t understand the meaning of the English word: “SOBER” “COMPOSED” “BEING IN ONE’S RIGHT STATE OF MIND”?

    • @ 23.3 PF Leader

      I believe you owe our highly esteemed president and the Zambian people an apology. You mean the president of the Republic of Zambia rapes a 96 years old woman? What a travesty! Frankly, I have been under the impression that you are normal. Apparently, you are not.

    • @ 23.3 PF Leader & @ 23.2 ST. Sweet Anus

      Were I to sue the president for incest, are you two willing and prepared to testify against him? There is no doubt in my mind that the DPP will be more than willing to prosecute this case, considering what this beleaguered president Edgar Lungu has already put him through! Please watch-out what you say…

  17. It is good that people are checked on what they say. Democracy is not lawlessness. HH only dared the state in order to seek attention. A while ago you were busy saying why is President Edgar Lungu quiete about HH statement. He acts ,the same people cry foul. This country has no special people. Had it come from a poor person nobody would have paid attention. Cant people see the country being brought into redicule by careless statements and pronouncements? Really, if HH was in ECL shoes, what would he have done? same. Let HH clear himself because he spoke it himself as alleged in the papers. YALI is playing hypocritical. If it is true HH said those words then back in his mind he knows he erred. Let him redeem himself. Don’t blame Edgar, NO,NO,NO.

  18. I regret the day when I voted for Edgar Chagwa Lungu. May the day he was declared President be cursed.

    I curse the day Edgar Lungu was born I also curse the vagaina that allowed him a passage to see the earth.

    Edgar Lungu; you are a true dictator and you practising dictatorial tendancies more than those of the late president Sata.

    HH is now a HERO in the eyes of many Zambians.

    • Am sorry, you speak for yourself. A hero? What has he done for Zambia? How does stating that he controls OP help the ordinary Zambian?
      You people shock me, you choose to ignore what you know simply because of political affiliation? HH was wrong to issue such a statement. He needs to know how to practice restraint in making such alarming statements!

  19. Edgar Lungu is just following the instructions from Robbert Mugabe and Rupiah Banda.

    Rupiah Banda is the one rulling this country. lungu is a dictator.

    • Do not be deliberately dumb. What HH said was wrong. He deserves an investigation. After this search now he will be rendered useless because he will appear as a motor-mouth who speaks without evidence. Frankly, for an economist, HH is quite useless. There are so many wrong things that the PF government is doing but he focuses on trivia like controlling the OP?

  20. A warningto the Kachasu Man, the same way you are using the Police on your politiical oponents, so they will be used againist you.

    Dictator Chagwa Lungu.

  21. YALI is being petty and childish , pretentious, and not real when they write underscoring the issue at hand knowing sure the gravity of the statement alleged to have been uttered by HH was very sensitive. HH mind you wants to rule this country one day and I don’t think he would allow such lawless statements apportioned to his governance. Is YALI on a pay roll or what?

  22. I cant wait to see the dictator drunkard be put to rest at the Embassy Park.

    Lungu is a disgrace to the peace and democracy of Zambia.

  23. Did you buy EL the beer? It is your Hungry Hyena who is drunk. Whatever it is they drink and eat at their freemasons meetings is really affecting him.

  24. Imwe bafana,
    which democratic country will tolerate the nonsense exhibited by our HH?

    You don’t have to say anything just because you have got the platform to do so.

  25. We are reciving disturbing information that one of HH’s child has been badly assaulted by the police and is now being rushed to a named private hospital.

    HH’s money amounting to K20 million has been taken by the Police who were searching his house and laptops.

    Lungu is a true dictator, as Accurate Source We warned you Zambians before the Presidential By Elections but you didnt take heed.

    See now the blood shed in our country Zambia.

    We will bring you some new information in just less than 30 minutes.

    It seems Edgar Lungu has now been informed that HH’s popularity is growing at lightening speed nowander this desparecy of wanting to eliminate him at all cost.

    More reports indicates that Edgar Lungu wants to Kill HH.

    God forbids, Edgar Lungu will die before…

    • Hahaha, and this information is coming from? Do not arouse your own passions by imagination, that is equivalent to masturbation! Look, HH stood boldly to state that he controls OP, let him stand boldly as he gets investigated. HH is in disbelief that Edgar Lungu is President, now he has an idea of what power Edgar Lungu possesses.

  26. Highly placed State House sources have disclosed that they went to Daily Nation yesterday to question the reporter who wrote the story.

    But the reporter is said to have disowned the story as having been mere additions by the owner Richard Sakala as Mr. Hichilema did not categorically refer to the Zambia State Security and Intelligence Services popularly known as Office of the President (OP).

    Sources revealed that Mr. Hichilema merely referred to receiving intelligence in general.

    “It clear this is a clear Robert Mugabe scheme to silence the critical opposition in the country. Lungu won by barely one percent of the vote against Mr. Hichilema and is now determined to silence him through brutality” revealed a source.

    Two weeks ago, Lungu told Misisi residents that he would not be…

    • Actually in case you do not hear well, HH actually said those words! He said those words! Do not be dellusional! Ignoring to hear what has been said. He said it on a radio programme!

  27. ‘Mumbwe aitile mpashi.’ HH thought it was something light to make such pronouncement. Let us not just condemn the president for the action being taken. The pronouncement that HH made can bring about loss of trust in our security system in Zambia. Let him learn to sieve what should be made public and what is for private consumption.

    • @TRUTH
      You are already wish the president death? What is it that you want to do when in power that can’t really wait for 16 months?

  28. Here is what makes me angry. PF cadres don’t have a mind of their own and just don’t tolerate positive thoughts. In such a simple issue as good advise to the Head of State, you begin to bring in Obama…. Mugabe…sooner it will Zuma. Cadres from both sides seem to lack common sense when discussing public matters. If Edgar Lungu today order the Army to arrest all Lozis, all PF cadres will call the President wise man. If the President stops the arrest of HH, PF cadres will says wise man Mr. President. Anything the President does in Zambia’s, these bootleggers known as cadres just know how to shower praises. You have no mind of your own. Grow up cadres because you all behave like babies

    • True! Edgar may think he is being wise by surrounding himself with ‘friends’ when in fact they are not building him up. Even if he has s.hit on his suit they will tell him “you look nice sir”. Bootlickers will never build you up ba Edgar. Get a few of those people who opposed your candidacy and they will be giving you good advice. Surround yourself with those morons you consider to be your friends if you want to fail.

  29. What YALI and other self claiming diabolical NGO’s must avoid is to insult Zambians. We know that there is a ploy for some people to get power from the so called dominant tribes. They are doing it in forms but the intentions are clear.
    Sampa was preferred because Scott wanted HH to win. The Cartel worked hard to ensure that power is not retained by the so called dominant tribes.
    The only way to get power is not through manipulations of Mmembe, Kabimba but to put before Zambians a salable candidate. HH is not salable candidate and soon UPND realizes the better. HH is not an economist fit to rule Zambia. He is a liar, thief, angry and hungry hyena. No chance for him in 2016

    • He also has a Tribalist regional agenda that we Zambians must not support.

      We should not let HH and his party break Zambia.

  30. Edgar Lungu is not wrong in any way for the action he has taken. He swore to protect the country and the people. He did not swear to protect an individual who becomes a truant!

  31. Those who are saying Lungu should have gone for PO officers are wrong because even the innocent ones were going to suffer. Only HH knows the ones who he dealt with. Therefore it’s his balls that must be squeezed so that he give their names

  32. WHAT is wrong with saying Edgar Lungu is planning to distabilise my party UPND and I have this information from kamucheka.

    What crime is there committed. if any. Lungu is afraid of his own shadows.

    Even Sata said the same thing he was not arrested or searched.

    Simple minds of Lungu discuss people. we need great minds.

  33. @34 ba truth

    Let it sink in you. EL is State President for next 12 years.
    If you feel left behind just bring yourself up to speed.
    Insults will not do. EL won and will win in 2016, 2021 and 2027.
    This is your nightmare.
    HH time is 2037. This is 22 years away.
    HH failed when EL was fought by Scott and the cartel. No campaign resources. campaigned only 23 days against more than 5 years by HH.EL won. 2016 is different and HH will be whacked into retirement

  34. HH also has the responsibility to behave like a mature and dignified statesman which he aspires to be.
    The rantings and ravings of the last few weeks are denting his so called “educated” image – he is beginning to sound too much like (despised) late Sata.

  35. Let them rant! Edgar is president not HH! If Scott is Cartel let him leave pf and join Wynter or go back to UK

  36. I am reading a lot of hopeless and senseless responses to this case.

    The FACT remains that HH issued a careless remark concerning state security. It was on that premise those orders were given. HH did not retract the statement as issued to the Media timely even after the President warned of a search.

    Isaac Mwanza, please get a proper job, flexing your intellect writing illogical arguments is not the best way of proving the relevance of your organisation.

    You exhibit a lack of understanding on State Security. Would you rather the president became neurotic with worry and sack innocent State House staff as possible leakers?

    The grownup and wise take on this is to acknowledge the foolishness of HH and his methods. In no way can this be a Human Rights issue. Stop being…

    • The grownup and wise take on this is to acknowledge the foolishness of HH and his methods. In no way can this be a Human Rights issue. Stop being fanciful. Stop filling young minds with wrong teaching.

      Be a proper Patriot and defend your country from wilful individuals like HH.

      IT’s the Government, silly! HH got exactly what he wanted. The challenge for the gov’t is how to exert enough pressure to break the wilful spirit of HH, so he gets in line with constitutional governance.

      You can’t be mocking a democratically elected President no matter your disgruntled take on the elections. HH is a Foo.l an absolute fo.ol.

  37. What kind of lawyer is Lungu? It seems every law enforcement maneuver he has tried has ended in his embarrassment. First he allowed through his cronnies and surrogates an attempt to unconstitutionally try to usurp power from the DPP and now this other embarrassing situation. After harassing HH we find out that the report was an exaggeration and the journalist that supposedly wrote the story has disowned it. You would hope that a lawyer would know how to conduct investigations. If I were him I would immediately fire the heads of my security forces. I.e intelligence and police for this embarrassment.

    • @ 48 loadist

      Certainly not the kind of a lawyer you would entrust to handle your case; unless if you want to go to prison for nothing. Not all lawyers are equal. Some lawyers are less equal than others. President Lungu, in my view, is one of the mediocre type – not admirably astute.

  38. It has been more than a month since this clown took power and all we read about are witch hunts and other tomfoolery BS.

  39. No offense to anyone in particular but I routinely read some pretty bad comments here on LT. And that is exactly why I’m so shocked when some of my posts are disallowed. Or maybe I’m just biased in my own favor because I don’t think my comments that are rejected are half as bad as some that I read here all the time.

    Ok now listen to me b!tching. I’m only a guest here. So I guess I should be grateful that I’m even allowed to comment at all!

  40. How will arresting HH solve Zambia’s woes of tribalism, nepotism, corruption, poverty and economic mismanagement? Lungu is not just vision-less but a broken soul as well. Explains why his number 1 solace has always been alcohol. With an idi ot like Lungu in state house Zambia is completely doomed.

  41. Judging from Lungu’s behaviour so far, he has no prioroties and this simply means he has no programme in place. He is the biggest chancer this country has ever seen.

    • @ MWANSA C…..exactly ….he is so so so excited being President….khikikikiki

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