Thursday, March 28, 2024

HH’s OP remarks ill advised-VJ

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Vernon Mwaanga
Vernon Mwaanga

Veteran politician Dr Vernon Mwaanga says the statement attributed to UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema that he controls the state intelligence system is unfortunate.

Dr Mwaanga said Mr Hichilema was ill advised to make such statements if at all he did make them.

He said politicians should stay away from commenting state intelligence matters because they are very sensitive.

Dr Mwaanga was speaking on Thursday when he featured on a live 5FM Radio programme called Burning Issue.

‘It was ill advised if he made those statements and am saying if because I just read about these things in the paper because intelligence matters are very delicate in any country,’ he said.

Dr Mwaanga added, ‘These issues of intelligence are among those where the country have to support the protection of state security. If I was in his position I was not going to make that statement.’

He said Mr Hichilema’s statement has the potential to cause unnecessary tension in the nation.

‘Moreover, what will happen is that he has slammed the door on all those that could have been supplying him with intelligence information if at all they were,’ he said.

124 COMMENTS

    • THAT’S UPND’S NATIONAL PRESIDENTIAL HOPEFUL. THE BOY HAS NO SHAME AND COMMON SENSE ON HIS BRAINS. ONLY A CH!NAMA CASE CAN UTTER SUCH WORDS. UMWAICE PLOT 1 YALI CUSHYA SANA. AND HIS BITTERNESS WILL FINALLY LAND HIM IN REAL BIG TROUBLE OR PRISON IF HE IS LUCKY. ZAMBIANS SHOULD NOT EVEN THINK OF PUTTING THAT BOY IN STATE HOUSE. HE SEEMS TO BE A FANATIC.

    • ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT EDGAR LUNGUS EMBARASSMENT IN HH’S CASE MWE BANTU PLEASE BA VJ GIVE US A BREAK

    • @Mushota you are boring so you are promoting stupid politics just because Sata was stupid, we must not continue with stupidity,let’s talk about issues affecting zambians and not try to show who is boss so what if you get intelligence information before the President which i doubt ,tell us what you are going to do if you become President now you are just showing us the Tonga in you selfish. it is alway about me that is a Tonga for you.

    • When the Late Micheal Sata said the same, no body condemned him. In fact we all cheered and applauded him. Why changing goal posts now.

    • I dont see anything sinister over Mr HH’s pronouncements he is an opposition leader and its immoral for Lungu to pursue him as if he has stolen ‘classified Documents’.

      VIVA HH

    • If it was not for drugs Dr.VJ Mwaanga would have ruled this country. He is so matured and experienced.

    • Yes, terribly ill-advised. Any wonder those who don’t like him keep on calling him: “under five.”

    • @ Mufasa

      Guys let’s be serious with national matters. The problem with you guys is you think using your tribe! VJ is a statesman who used to sell mandrax of course because it wasn’t illegal then, but that’s not to say that whatever he says should just be brushed aside. HH can learn one or two things from Dr. Mwaanga. Any wonder why Hapitilila House is persistently refered to as under 5? Because his brain is not fully developed politics wise! Sad but true!

    • Ninjala chambe VJ yamunyokola!

      Hey Hon Mwaanga, its 2015, politics have changed from primitive types to neorealism or neolibetalism!

      If one wants to follow the footsteps of Comrade Munkombwe with politics of the belly, please just do so. Atleast Hon Munkombwe’s charismatic mantra is fulfilled with honest, eating all he can. Otherwise Hon Mwaanga, HH is not perfect, so are we all.
      By the way Tshala Mwana is now a politician in “Dictatorship Unrepublic of Congo”, ehh Bo Mwaanga ehh. Indeed we are not perfect, even president Lungu should be tamed for such contempt of interference with the police. Ain’t police professionals? Under PF its ZERO!

      The Skeleton Key
      ~206~

    • It’s time to conduct an internal review with the Inspector General starting with polygraph tests across the board. Sorry guys but we got to clean up the system so those of you who fail the test are not only going to be dismissed but be subjected to the further needful as per your conditions of service.

      Those of you involved in this know what I mean, you brought this one yourselves and you have HH to thank for it. There’s a reason our intelligence services have been second to none, there’s a reason all freedom fighters found refuge in Zambia and won their independence using Zambia as a base.

      We will get to the bottom of this the right way, your service is to the republic …. Zambia Is Greater Than Any Single One Of Us!!!

    • That is why we UPND guys want to vote for a new leader in our party because HH has always been a shame to our party am sure Mazoka , may his soul rest in peace has made several rounds of turning in his grave because HH has been nothing but a trouble maker. We need to tackle serious issues concerning our party and re-strategise for 2016 but our president is busy craeting situations that will likely lead to civil strife in our country.
      LET THIS BOY PLEASE GO AND CONCENTRATE ON HIS FARM. We need fresh leadership in 2016 not HH who is good for nothing.

    • The truth is that HH never said those words as written in the daily Nation.It was Richard Sakala who added those other words. So VJ is right to doubt HH having said things like he controls the intelligence. HH only told Lungu that he is aware of his plans to destroy UPND and HH.If HH received intelligence information concerning his life being threatened for sure he would not keep quite.Even the intelligency its not there duty to kill political oponents but to protect the Nation including Lungu and HH.

    • @SIDO MARK: This is where you guys in UPND gets it wrong. You want to defend HH at any cost even when he fc@ks up. What he said borders on very sensitive national security matters. The security of every Zambian, be it PF, UPND, FDD, MMD, man woman, child, extra, is put in jeopardy by this kind of CARELESS and LOOSE talk from the likes of HH.

      The fact that you support HH shouldn’t blind you from seeing the BIGGER PICTURE. National security affects every one of us. Yes, you, your relatives, and your UPND comrades included. So learn to distinguish politics from national security. Now HH has effectively put the lives and jobs of OP “moles” in peril. And HH has NOT denied or asked the Daily Nation to retract the story. So let us not make excuses for him. He is a BIG BOY himself!

  1. Dipak and you are HH advisors you were one chief shu shu shu so you know how intelligence is preserved…

    Anyway tell him that Pretorious Haloba, Maimbo Mono,Kelvin and Muchindu are not the best Intelligence minds you want but all the best as they feed you lies and chew your cash….

    • VJ, you have a serious job at hand to advise the under 5. He doesn’t seem to grow up with passage of years. He wants to take ifimina to state house? Not at all!

    • OP remarks were a publicity stunt. Not that it is bad. People paid attention to what he had to say, ill advised as they may be termed. He would silly to remain idle and people don’t hear from him. He needs to rock the boat as many times as he can.

      I expect VJ knows this. Mr Sata ascending to the pinnacle of the job by rattling the feather of Mr Mwanwasa on his terms.

      Short term it was bad. Long term a political scoring milestone.

      Overall he has rattled Lungu, the Police and been admired by neutral.

      More of the same please.

      I speak as the voice of reason and the seeker of justice and the truth

      Thanks
      BB2014

    • Mis- interpreted info: the greatest and very very big members of the OP are the people of Zambia. info on FRA, Electricity Price, the falling Kwacha, Wage freeze, etc is the the political intelligence report available. Forget about HH’s info. It is just political.

    • Anso washuka iwe ka HH. In those days KK would have already confiscated your PASSPORT, on grounds of you being a security risk to the country!

  2. HH will never be President of Zambia in his entire life get it in your head.He is not residential material we want Nkombo or MAGANDE this time the tasted leadership even you VJ deity your age.Not HH Zambians don’t seem to like HH there must be genuinely something evil about him for the whole Zambians to reject him Four times.

  3. VJ is so right, HH’s behaviour was really childish and this makes it so risky for his would-be informers.

    • VJ’s comments are spot on, coming from a top diplomat who also served in the Zambian intelligence. No matter how much UPND cadres try to gloss over this issue, HH got it all wrong. He cannot be entrusted with public office, especially also knowing that he was ready to mortgage this country if he had won by giving contracts to foreign interests to enable them reap super profits. These are the same foreigners and indigenous Indians who bankrolled his campaign machine. We know Dipak Patel and Suresh Desai played the role of negotiating on behalf of HH and UPND for campaign monies from wealthy Indians within Zambia.

    • No Lungu is the one who is childish by instructing the police publicly you don’t do that if you a season president.Lungu from Chawama two yrs later into state house,he is a political misfit.

  4. What makes me laugh is the moral ineptitude of Maureen Mwanawasa and Felix Mutati when they stand next to HH when he claims that Mazoka’s votes were stolen in 2001.
    How low can you stoop?

    • Is it wrong to testify that your spouse was a thief. After all it’s not Mwanawasa who stole the votes, it was Chiluba. By the way, vote stealing is dangerous.

    • I do not have to go far to recognize that you are either bipolar or schizophrenic but simply by observing how you contract yourself in no more than one sentence; Maureen was married to FTJ? Enlighten us!

    • @ wise one

      Please stop messing us up we have no time to start deciphering your illogical blog! What are you saying?

    • ba maureen ubupuba isn’t it in 2001 when she became first lady?she simply means her husband stole votes . end of story

  5. Dr Mwanga – you have raised a mature point on this issue. Please advise HH to make an apology to the nation and our Intelligence so that we move on. HH knows quite well he made a scandalous and ill advised statement. The earlier he asks for forgiveness the better.

    • When I heard that VJ was backing HH, I felt uncomfortable, he has always been a wamuselela kwakaba, the only person that fixed him once and for all was Mwanawasa – after the fiasco in DRC. HH, if you are reading this message, then take timely advice – STAY AWAY from VJ. After your loss, he was quick to issue a statement, a blant one. The fact that he and Rupiya will once again fly out on a jovial stint in Namibia seeping fresh champagne and what goes with it, pretending to reprsent Zambia as was in those golden days of their youth…. what did you expect him to say about HH. Couldn’t this old womaniser just avoid the name of HH and talk about his impending trip! Why issue statements over something you are not sure of . Kabwa !

  6. You see now uzapisisa my elder Brothers Nchito Manje .HH will never be President of Zambia in his entire life get it in your head.He is not Presidential material we want Nkombo or MAGANDE this time the tasted leadership even you VJ despite your age.Not HH Zambians don’t seem to like HH there must be genuinely something evil about him for the whole Zambians to reject him Four times.He must really a satanist or Freemasonist .Even when you look at his face very strange with that Evil smile he tried to hoodwink us during campaigns.

  7. I am a staunch UPND supporter but i strongly feel my president missed the mark on this one. Well said Vernon Mwanga.

    • Unfortunately there are very few people of your likes in your chi party! Hypnotised Hyena should take advantage of these former Op operatives like VJ while they are still alive. But the only problem is that, the stup!d boy called Hakainde is very stuborn!VJ is spot on this and the earlier the Hypnotised Hyena grows up the better for his life (of course not his Presidential ambitions!). This guy is a loser for sure!

    • What difference does it all make to the ordinary Zambian? There are more critical issues than “claims”! Why should we spend such energies on a claim by an opponent who wants to frustrate you? WELL DONE HH!

  8. any normal person can not support what Hakalusa Hagain 2016 HH-said about the OP.
    am sure even his wife is not in support of his behaviour and unfortunately some small minds are even condemning the police for what they did on him.
    HH must grow up,nowander he is loosing 2016 general election.

    • Lungu had gone to sleep. Thanks HH for reminding him of his role as Commander in Chief in a Police State!

  9. I even wonder why the OP had to search his house, you don’t eradicate malaria by killing Mosquitos with knives in your homes, but by stopping the breeding and later killing them in your homes.
    The op in this case were supposed to look for the mole by tapping HH’s phone and some suspected op employees.
    This would have ensured that the perpetrators are dealt with.
    HH is going to dangle more carrots for him to get those classified documents and those with an insatiable appetite for money are going to fall for it.
    I guess he has leant his lesson, but the most important thing is to take the OP employees for further training because the way they carry out their jobs leaves much to be desired.

  10. What can you expect from HH who has never worked in Govt especially were keeping such sensitive information is concerned. HH is just undermining his chances of getting to plot one by being so childish and careless. But I hope he has learnt something and will refrain as he continue learning. He can still make a good president in the future. Forgive him people he is still growing 😀 !

    • Though VJ was right to say what he said again I question his motive because he was not sure of what HH said.I strongly feel VJ and Munkombwe are sponsored or hired Guns to destroy HH.Munkombwe from no were to start talking of Tonga ruling ,when Hh never said such things through out his rallies towards the end he was even the green lights at state house this old Munkombwe come on the platform to say other things.So VJ and Munkombwe since Independence having been a thorn in our flesh.HH did not say those but Richard Sakala the convict said that.

    • @SIDO MARK: This is where you guys in UPND gets it wrong. You want to defend HH at any cost even when he fc@ks up. What he said borders on very sensitive national security matters. The security of every Zambian, be it PF, UPND, FDD, MMD, man woman, child, extra, is put in jeopardy by this kind of CARELESS and LOOSE talk from the likes of HH.

      The fact that you support HH shouldn’t blind you from seeing the BIGGER PICTURE. National security affects every one of us. Yes, you, your relatives, and your UPND comrades included. So learn to distinguish politics from national security. Now HH has effectively put the lives and jobs of OP “moles” in peril. And HH has NOT denied or asked the Daily Nation to retract the story. So let us not make excuses for him. He is a BIG BOY himself!

  11. Are we still talking about the same issue sure? You honestly thought HH was serious? come on guys.HH is one educated mind and there is no way he could put the people feeding him with information at such a great risk.In short he was lying. President Eddy should just put his OP house in order.

    • Not as simple as that Grace. There is a serious prima facie case here. You can’t make pronouncements of this nature and turn around and say “I was joking”, because what proof do we have that “you were joking?” By that careless statement he has put some Zambians in very serious problems on suspicion alone – some will lose jobs and some may go to jail or even worse — on suspicion. This is very wrong and unfair by someone who wants to lead and rely on the same people he is putting across as unprofessional. Very wrong subject for political mileage. Mr. Mwaanga and others need to talk with the president and ask HH to apologise to the president and the nation so that we move forward. Otherwise nobody should cry persecution over such a sensitive matter.

    • Grace, the Adviser is right.

      Don’t forget that HH is a leader and sadly, the varsity majority of his followers do not take time to think and analyse issues but follow him and what he says simply because he is the leader. Making such announcements as a leader (if he did) was certainly not wise. keeping silent does not help him at all. He must be made accountable if he said that. I want to believe this was the reason he was called to account. I see nothing wrong with that. Let us not take the peace we have enjoyed in Zambia for granted.

  12. ‘We must remember that in time of war what is said on the enemy’s side of the front is always propaganda’ Walter Lippmann.

    HH disseminated false information for a given cause which was to attract public sympathy and remain in the news (we are still talking about him). How many times do we have to say that? Uncle V.J knows that very well. Just wait, he isn’t done yet. He is working up another storm somewhere and Z.P (the ever obedient yes bwana) will dance to HH’s tune.
    Towards the end of E.L’s term, expect worse!

    • @Beautiful Moma: I get your logic. But let us also remember that there are certain things and issues which are regarded as almost being SACRED in any nation—NATIONAL SECURITY is one such issue. Or at least it should be!

      HH being a person aspiring to occupy the office the president some day, it is very dangerous for him to destroy institutions responsible for:

      1. His security when and if he gets to plot 1.
      2. The security of your and my innocent relatives in Zambia.

      And what will it profit HH for him to create an atmosphere of SUSPICION and MISTRUST in the intelligence community which he hopes to some day rely on for his own and the country’s security? There are many issues HH can politik about and be forgiven, this isn’t one of them. It is simply NOT smart at all!

    • @Mukula you are not God. show as who will be president next because PF is finished ,which other Opposition leader is as strong as HH in Zambia your grandmother in Nabwalya maybe.

  13. The saddest part is that whether HH was just hallucinating or not, his remarks have made our hard working OP officers uncomfortable. Each day that comes they are worried that they may lose their jobs. In short HH has endangered the lively hoods of so many people who may be very innocent. I hope in future HH will try to close mouth if anything like this comes to his mind- he can either use his lips or teeth to close it.

    • Any intelligent Zambian knows that OP has been leaking intelligence information since they got tired of KK. Zambians can never be trusted as someone said they only need to see the kwacha then they will vomit all information, how does ZWD get all the classified information.

    • WHICH MOSES WANOMBA? THIS CHAP CAN SEND THIS COUNTRY INTO FLAMES. HE NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN, HE ALWAYS BEHAVE LIKE A WARD YOUTH CHAIRMAN FOR MULYOKELA’S PARTY.

    • Anwebo bai ba VJ. Well spoken. National interest at heart. Please tell Moses wanomba that

      Moses wakale never reached the promised land and he never let out what his Shushushu confided in him! He rather acted on information received which enabled his followers to reach the promised land.

  14. Very timely and unbiased advise and comment from Statesman VJ Mwaanga. What HH needs to do now is to seek ways of making amends. If possible let him plead over this case with tears in his eyes. The whole World is looking to what next of that conduct. This is why you don’t need to throw away elders in your camp. What will William advise you other than violence? Why keep people like VJ afar, though they may not be in your party but on certain professional needs draw them. See, Lungu is clever, he has RB , KK, “MUGABE ON SADIC MATTERS,” and others including Chiefs and other traditional rulers. Very wise President, wmhy, humility bwana.

  15. @Haamanjanji hikasumpa- it’s better to just shut up if you have nothing to say. How can you say “Zambians don’t like HH”. What is fact is that almost 50% of those that cast their votes in the last election voted for HH.

  16. H H has exposed his naivety. Sad for some one aspiring for the presidency. Mwaanga is very objective on this one.

    • HE CANT BE TRUSTED THATS WHY OUR FATHERS MR SATA, MR RUPIAH BANDA AND MANY MORE DITCHED HIM. HE IS A SNAKE IN DEEP GREEN GRASS.

      SORRY THE MAN WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA, AT LEAST NOT ON THIS PLANET.

  17. VJ is both a mature Politician and Shushushu. HH, a political novice should heed the advice. I could not have put it any better. Thanks VJ. See HH, the bitterness resulting from the loss of elections is making you more immature and mediocre. Please comrade VJ tame this dummy politician before he lands himself in troubled waters! He seems to run short of ideas of being an effective and efficient opposition leader. Please start building party structures at the grassroots and start penetrating area you got less votes. Be resolute!

    • Your comment is spot on! But above all I love your blog name! Kekekekekekekeeee! HH budalo buzakupaya mwaiche!

    • Why should VJ be praised him today when you have always despised him all the time he opened his mouth.You Tribalists we know you .Sata said he knew what happened at state house you were claping HH says he knows what Lungu is planning you stand on anti to criticize any way we know you tribalists that does not stop our determination and come 2016 we shall show even when all of vote we shall also vote in big numbers we see who are many is not the same pass the post electoral no 50+1.HH will tough the end line than Lungu this time.With one Kidney let Lungu pray hard.

  18. May be it is high time people like VJ sat HH down to advise him on what and what not to say in public. Both HH and ECL need serious advisors because they are goofing alot.

    • Exactly my thoughts Mei, his wealth has made him lose wisdom and it instead has gained him arrogance and an If it’s not, me then no one else attitude and approach to life! Born loser!

    • @ 25 Chitutuma

      Wish that were the case. He could then have applied for emancipation or sought psychological counseling.

  19. Any one who thinks causing a national security scare is a good publicity stunt; is NOT fit to be President of Zambia or any other country!

    Hopefully HH will take the advice of VJ.

    Any one who uses the death of a party member as a publicity stunt; is NOT fit to be President of Zambia or any other country!

    • You couldn’t put it any better than that! Done! If he wnats to put up stunts why not go to Nolly, Bolly or Hollywood? There are so many stunt jobs out there! I know it gets boring sometimes to be ignored just a few days from elections! What a joker this HH guy is!

  20. MUSHOTA MINA AMATE,
    What ever Sata did way back was not right…and the RB/ Mwanawasa’s police not to questioning/ arresting Sata that time was wrong too. The MMD police & government leadership were corrupt and idle…infact the police top leadership were the jerabos (Copper thieves). Even reported murderers were not arrested. All these acts were not right. Today the police are trying to play it better. The alarmist must be caged. hh should not do things Sata did and be an excuse. Today the judicially is awakening coz it is being questioned. It is stupid of one to do a wrong just because another person had done it. I tell you this thinking was the cause of hh’s loss of 20th Jan. 2015 Presidential elections. He promised everything Sata had done & thot he would win. Not mu Bemba…

  21. HH lacks the attributes of a mature leader and is not different from Edward Snowden who thought he was going to be a hero by revealing the US government’s secrets. On June 11, 2012 HH said the PF had signed an arrangement with the militia of Sudan to train PF youths. He was quoted as saying “Prepare for trouble, do you know what is going on in Darfur? Do you know what is going on in Abyei? Do you know what is going on there? Killings.” If he had love for this country he should have known his comments can ignite a civil war.With hindsight he must have obtained this information from his source of intelligence reports and he also knew that the PF was going to reduce the price of fuel and was working on the constitution road map but during his campaign trail pretended these were his ideas.

  22. HH had to say what he said just to warn Lungu that he knew all the evil plans he has against his life and the UPND. Ubututu ba PF you think people keep hard copies in their homes once they read it goes to drop box and then shredded immediately

    • NO @Mundetele, despite his many flaws, Mwanga is a STATESMAN and a mature staunch NATIONALIST unlike your ‘Kadansa’ HH!

      Hakahinde doesn’t seem to have the ability to tell where SELF-INTERESTS end and NATIONAL-INTERESTS begin. To him everything is about me!, me!, me!, and fcuk the price paid. A trait only prevalent among children—and this guy called ‘Ha-Hi’ is loaded with it!!!

    • My thoughts too. HH had to let the cat out of the bag before it was too late. He thwarted the plans to kill him! He screamed for his life and at the moment it has been spared, he is alive. We do not want to hear of some deadly accident happening in the middle of nowhere as we have been subjected to before. I am sure the departed knew well in advance that they were being trailed but kept quiet upon silly advice from their “security agents”. Tell them HH, continue hammering….. send SOS signals.

  23. Good advice from VJ.Even if HH was to be president of Zambia that statement was misiplaced.He has now endangered the jobs of all those who were feeding him with information.Ok may be he can employ them in his businesses but how many are willing to do so?
    Is he going to trust them himself?
    HH should learn from this and I just hope that he will not repeat such stupid statement.

  24. Please leave the president of the Republic of Southern Province alone. That is the intelligence he was referring to. The under 5 is in denial and thinks he is head of state.

  25. Some of you contributors are simply clueless. You are still in the kenneth kaunda era where it was believed that he (mr. kaunda) was a demi God and intelligence reports were a preserve of his eyes only. No,…intelligence reports could be economic reports detailing the demise of the Kwacha or an impending closure of some mine, security reports or even personal espionage reports where your opponent may say wish to frame you in a sex scandal like mugabe did with Pious Ncube (read nnxtu-be) and plotted his down fall or at waste poison you.
    If you believe that intelligence reports are sacrosanct documents, check the recent leaks on the WWW and educate yourselves. Then you will understand that Mr. Mwaanga is simply a publicity seeker in this particular case. Case rested!

    • @ 32 Warlord

      It’s all a matter of who is supplying you the intelligence and for what reason. Didn’t those “recent leaks on the WWW” you are referring to cause just as much scare? Or are you oblivious to reality? Why is that guy, is it Snowden, or something like that, still in hiding?

  26. i disagree with VJ. I a normal democracy the president of the opposition is entitled to periodic intelligence briefing. Some of you guys have all the resources but cannot read and understand the real meaning of HH utterances.
    Sata said the same thing and with the same words but only tone difference. HH is said to be an ***** according to political morons supporting the EL state of governance.

    • @abena, don’t be a moron! where on earth are unelected opposition leaders entitled to intelligence briefings, even periodically?

      I assume you are in the USA going by the flag. So if you are talking about the US, opposition leaders who sit-in in intelligence briefings are elected members of Congress. Not just because they lead the Democratic or Republican party. Even those members of Congress entitled to attend periodic intelligence briefings are sworn to secrecy the breach of which can land them in big doodoo!

      The only other individuals with clearance to have classified intelligence reports in America are former presidents (Carter, Clinton, and both Bushes). Even then, it is NOT the daily Actionable Intelligence briefings that the president gets. Please tell the truth!

  27. HH has made the boggest blunder of his life time.OP guys are not working freely as they are suspiciuous of each other especially when tongas and bembas are working in the same office.There will, be fingure pointing and trust and comradire has gone.HH didnt know that he is entrenching tribalism by such vile statements at this sensitive times.Look SATA never mentioned OP in his statement,but was careful by say ‘ He is has some people who give hime inside information.The problem with HH is he is not orinal but wants to copy what SATA used to say and do abeit in a wrong and self incriminating way.Mind you SATA worked in government and he cannot utter such statesments but put in a way that the courts will acquit him and he chews your money for wrongful accusation.HH grow up and wise up.

  28. VJ one of the most objective and mature politicians. Let’s learn to tell the truth to people we love.

    • not sincere with your statement. nothing wrong in HH statement. read VJ statement. its a conditional statement which means it is open to adjustment with reality on the ground.

  29. I have never worked for the intellligence but VJ is spot on really. Intelligence matters are very sensitive, even the USA, which is the, mother of democracy is still looking for Snowden for playing with intelligence. Asanje of the infamous weakleaks is still in hiding for playing with intelligence issues. It would have been very wrong for the police to just ignore HH’s statement. If HH learns, he should respect VJ’s advice because it is objective especially considering that he recently indosed him for the presidency.

    • Lomba vuto niyakuti ula mwana aliye mulange anyina bake…aliye malango ula mwana, HH. Ikamunyokole boma mulekeni! Uka kumbuke mau amalume bako a VJ.

  30. The other danger HH should now know is that there will be a backlash from the OP. They will try to dig as much dirt as possible about him and ruin his businesses to justify that they are not under him. But this will be a quiet job….this man needs to mature. You can politic but you don’t play with these shady guys…that’s playing with matches in a petrol petrol warehouse

  31. lol ati Sata said the same thing lol….ok so if we steal together and I Get caught I should say why me alone? Awe bwana tell your man to grow up he is clueless on how to get to state house…he has tried all his cards and failed, a merger, a political coup, money, promising everything, getting an online paper to promote him, hiring william banda, six pack patel..still wash out….

  32. NO POLITICS WITH STATE SECURITY. SATA USED TO SAY I HAVE FREINDS IN OP NOT I CONTROL OR RECEIVE NATIONAL BRIEFS BEFORE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. HH’s WAS TOO EXPLICIT ON THE INTELLIGENCE TALK OF RECEIVING BRIEFS. HE WAS SUPPOSE TO SAY IT INDIRECTLY. PLSE PLSE WRONG MOVE.

  33. Zp will charge HH and will palata him to the fore to ensure he is disciplined

    An order to ”Kunta” HH has been issued and is currently in operational

    HH will be stripped and palatared kuntarred to ensure he is disciplined

    Its an order issued for lying and to ensure he reveals where he gets his debriefs

  34. Mwanga is a seasoned politician and has the privilege to have access to classfield and secret documents. Mwanga knows better than HH the gravity of saying what he said. Mushota there has never been any document or news where Sata openly stated he has prior knowledge to classfield or secret information/ documents or he was controlling the OP. What is true is leaking secret documents is known within intelligence circles to those who may use the to their advantage. It’s poor timing for HH coz it’s like shitting from the source of the river and think down the stream the water will not be contaminated . He made it difficult to him and those leaking the secrets . Now they are spies working within ranks and files to bring down one another. It s sad affair for HH period

  35. What pisses me off is the way we all of a sudden start calling every Jim and Jack, Dr Something. It’s only in Zambia where we have more doctors across the nation than anywhere else. To be a real doctor of any discipline you have to earn it at university. These degrees that are offered for some reason or the other are not worth the paper they are written on. Don’t you think Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher, Winston Churchill, JFK, Clinton, Reagan, George Snr & Junior Bush, Putin, Boris Yetsin, Mikhail Gorbachev, Angela Merkel etc are not called doctors in their countries where their universities are tops in the world.

    All our past presidents are all doctors, Dr Kaunda, Dr Chiluba, Dr Mwanawasa, Dr RB Banda, Dr Sata and soon to be if not already Dr EC Lungu. Wake up. STOP the S…

    • Kindly note that recipients of honorary doctorate degrees do not earn them through academic achievements but rather through lifetime achievements whose definition is very subjective but based on the criteria of each university conferring them. The recipient may use it in the same manner as a substantive degree, except where formal academic background is required. Most recipients do not use the title of “doctor,” but in Zambia most recipients have followed KK’s example of using them though there is no rule against it. Recipients such as Benjamin Franklin, Maya Angelou, and Billy Graham, amongst others, have used the title either before or after their names but others such as Dolly Patton, Clint Eastwood, Nelson Mandela, Arnold Scharzenegger , Al Gore to mention only a few have not used…

  36. Well said VJ!!!All of you HH supporters may reject VJ’s advice at your own peril!!!i cant see HH winning anytime soon!!!this man irritates a lot of voters!!!with just a turn out of over 45% in PF strongholds,a 5th defeat is all HH will once more achieve in 2016!!!on 14th april,2015 PF is likely to win all 3 by elections but even after this UPND cadres will still be claiming that PF is finished!!!they amaze me a lot.where is PF finished?in your cow’s kraal?shocking!!!

  37. I FIND VJ’S COMMENTS VERY DANGEROUS AND A BETRAYAL. HE SEEMS TO JUSTIFY THE BARBARIC BEHAVIOUR OF THE POLICE AND AUTOCRATIC CONDUCT OF LUNGU. DID HH SAY WHAT THE NEWSPAPER REPORTED?
    I FIND VJ’S COMMENTS TO BE IRRESPONSIBLE AND INAPPROPRIATE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. CNN AND BBC QUOTE CIA SOURCES IN THEIR NEWS. THE JOURNALISTS ARE NEVER HARRASSED FOR REVEALING STATE SECRETS.
    IF ONE CLAIMS THAT HE RECEIVES INTELLIGENCE REPORTS WITHOUT EVIDENCE WOULD THAT AMOUNT TO A CRIME? I DO NOT THINK SO.
    THE HARRASSING OF HH IS THEN A CONFIRMATION THAT INDEED THE STATE HAD SENT SOME PEOPLE TO SOUTH AFRICA TO INVESTIGATE THE SOURCE OF HH’S CAMPAIGN MONEY! DID THE STATE ALSO SENT SOME OFFICERS TO NIGERIA TO INVESTIGATE LUNGU’S SOURCE OF CAMPAIGN FUNDS?

  38. pipo are just saying this and this saying that he knows how ecl wants to disturbalise the opp0sition party has become a security risk ok who did not know about ecl going to zimbabwe and nigeria muslems for funds if those were not security risks. was it not a security risk when chiluba exposed the tunnels of state house. was it not security risk when bbc reported that zambian soldiers were poorly trained when they were all captured during peacekeeping in west africa. is this the only risk you have known today? be mature think of development not insults

  39. There is no intelligence on mentioning abount the secrets of a country. As far as I am concerned HH is a very loyal citizen, because he had the courage to say that people in the intelligence system were selling some very valuable information to people who do not deserve the information. HH is a whistle blower and for me he is actually assisting the party in power to be alert on the people it entrusts with some valuable information. In fact HH is a state WITNESS who does not need to be harassed if only the party in power was intelligent, because he would have told them or given them more information as to who are involved in these leakages, fooly enough you start harassing him. HH does not want state screts to just be released anyhow. ALL YOU DO IS INSULTING; NO ANALYSIS, WHAT A SHAME.

  40. Actually information is cheap in Zambia. Just walk into any market, pub or thoroughfare and you will hear ordinary people actually peddling information allegedly sourced from Intelligence. HH’s misstep is to explicitly state he has privilege of right to the actual machinery. Perhaps this will bump his popularity but chances are we will just turn our noses up and move on. What is interesting is voters are getting more savvy – wait until the apathy wave is swept aside…

  41. I have always said that LUNGU has surrounded himself with very selfish individuals who have no other qualifications and the only source og their income is politics and they will try by all means to have LUNGU there for their BREAD AND BUTTER. I have further said that this country is being RULLED by the UNEDUCATED who lack the strngth of analysis. At this time and age, CAN any body sane be talking about secrets of a country when THERE IS A BILL PENDING TO ALLOW EVRY INDIVIDUAL TO HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION. WE HAVE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT WHO STLL WANT TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY TO STONE AGE PERIOD. IF YOU HAVE GOVERNMENT STILL ASSOCIATING ITSELF WITH FREEDOM FIGHTERS, WHAT ELSE DO YOU EXPECT. KK IS TRYING TO COME BACK, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT. WE NEED CHILUBA BADLY THIS TIME AROUND.WE WANT ECONOMIC LIBE

  42. Yamunyokola njala yofuno nkhala mu puloti wanu haka haki. lomba wayambo vumuka vumuka cifukkwa camashabe alinao. Uko lelo.

  43. HH IS AN IRRESPONSIBLE UNDER FIVE. EVERYONE KNOWS OP ISSUES ARE SENSITIVE.

    COPYING SATA HAS PUT HIM IN PROBLEMS. THE BEST WAY TO GET OUT OF THIS MESS IS AN UNRESERVED APOLOGY TO PRESIDENT LUNGU AND ENTIRE NATION, AND THE FOOLISH MOLES GIVING HIM INTELLIGENCE REPORTS BEFOE THEY GIVE THE PRESIDENT.

    BUT BEING SO FULL OF PRIDE, HE CAN’T NEVER!!!!!

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