Zambia is set for the construction of a new 40,000-seater before 2010.The stadium will be built by the Chinese and both the Zambian and Chinese governments have entered an agreement for the construction of the stadium in the northern part of the country.
The estimated amount to build the stadium is $70 million.
A Chinese delegation led by Zhang Zijun visited the country to carry our feasibility studies at the site where the stadium is to be built.
Zijun and Bizwayo Nkunika, permanent secretary in Zambia’s ministry of works and supply signed the agreement on behalf of the two governments.
There is already excitement in the air following the positive development.
“The signing ceremony marks the beginning of the construction works,” Sports minister Gabriel Namulambe announced at the signing ceremony in Lusaka.
“This country will benefit from South Africa’s hosting of the 2010 World Cup if the stadium is completed.
“I am calling upon the private sector to come on board because we need a five-star hotel next to the stadium.”
The stadium will be built in Ndola in the Copperbelt Province.
Dreams come true, however business mind pipo would have cherished the stadium be finished by 2006 so that it can start generating cash. How do you expect to make money in a competition which is only one month. Long term planing is essential. After all Zambia is not hosting the WC2010. You can imagine if the stadia was finished in 2006 and start attracting customers in combination with tourism there would have been somethÃng to boost about. So we should look this as a future investment like maybe hosting the World athletics championship in 2013.
Good that we shall have a safe stadium,am surprised that it is only a 40 000 seater. To put it in perspective, the current independence stadium is a 35 000 seater and at the pick of Zambia football we used to go as early as 8’oclok to just get a seat. With the involvement of the chineses, I expected a much bigger stadium.
Can’t we really afford $70 million dollars from our taxes and the mines taxes? Wasn’t the like pocket change to Chiluba & co’s election rigging machine & zamtrop mess.
I think the Govt should put up more money from our own resources so we build two more stadiums on in Lusaka & L/stone. The Lusaka one should be 60 000 or above seater. We need some pride in our country.
In fact these projects have a huge potential of creating more jobs for our people.
So what’s the deal with the chinese govt? What will they expect in return?
Hopefully the stadium will not come crashing down after the $70 mil is paid, i bought a toy made in china, before i reached home it broke apart. Do not let figures and numbers fool you, we need quality for our hard earned money.
Dragon City Shopper,
That is shallow and malicious. Has TAZARA broken down? What of Zambia’s biggest and most beautiful former UNIP House now Government House on Independence Avenue has it corrupsed? Count the Infrastructures Chinese have built in this Country from Bridges to Roads have they broken? China has helped Zambia in infrastructure development more than any other Bilateral partner you have in mind.
Dragon, if only you looked at new pictures of Beijing or any other chinese city, you would reverse your words.
40 000 capacity for a start is NOT bad, zambia has failed to build such a stadium for over 40 years now…
The stadium goes to Ndola this time because that is where LPM lives. He is staying in Lusaka and he knows that once he is out of plot one, he will go back to Ndola. We needed an ultra modern stadium in Lusaka first before any other place.
What has left out and behind a lot of our kids such as Dragon City Shopper is their cultural Pull Him Down -PHD mental disease. Anything my uncle or father is not directly benefitting from in the nation is bad and not worth it. The solace is that on aggregate zambians know such visionless critics as Good for nothing “incorrigible haters” quoting someone who put it here ere earlier on.
They will always be there to speak their mind but without mileage or audience to alter anything in real terms. Look at the Oasis forum tumbling with their legs in the air. They go to bed with chiluba to undermine Mwanawasa. Then what do we see? ZEC, LAZ, ZCTU, UNZA, CBU and SANCORD denounce their cheap and unholy conspiracy. Politically, legally, constitutionally, strategically, security wise and in all fronts they are heavy toll casualties daily on the incremental you will witness even more damage in their camp.Vindicate me if their incorrigible hatred will yield them anything good.
Gaulani,
Every administration has its own strategic priorities and approach. There is absolutely knowing wrong in putting up a Stadium on the CB first. Do you know the other plans?
#3 GLUCO, Well looking at ZATARA maybe pingping can offer something though their stadiums are built by europeans firms. My best friend is working in china and she is very impressed in their performance like build nursery school, houses, even the longest bridge in the world which which link china with some islands which has been unpassable. Give them a chance and do sth. The west would have asked double the cost.
The Chinese have been instrumental in building a number of Stadium world wide. Most Multi-purpose Cricket world cup 2007 stadium in the Caribbean were built by the Chinese. The most durable road and Tooter bridge in Zambia was built by China, when they were not as advanced as now. Next time the PF want to condemn the Chinese noble project without no reason, Let them look at Tazara and Tooter Road which lies in their stronghold and has been key to opening up of these areas economic activities.
This is wonderful news and hopefully it would lead to reigniting economic activity in the ‘HUB of the Copperbelt’ as it used to be called.These are the developmental issues were I give LPM my thumbs up.We always give credit were it`s due.I hope LPM follows this up with the Northrise University he promised.
I had a ticket in my hands when Zambia played the then Zaire(the 4-2 match)but ended up at the humanism hill where I also couldnt see the match.
I remeber I went to the stadium around 6:00 but didnt get in and am sure I wasnt the only one who couldnt get in.
My point here is what good is a 40000 seater compared to the 35000 seater(indipondo)?
Zambia can easily fill a 70,000 stadium.
Tanzania is not very far,you can ask what it took to build their stdium.
Tanzania is biulding their foundation right despite not having qualified for the africa cup.
They biult a good stadium and hired a brazilian coach.
These are ingredients that can benefit Zambia more than Tanzania.
This all comes down to our leadership which is a little thick headed.
It is good news that the sports complex will be built in Ndola. Ndola needs it’s glory back. On this one alone Ba Levy has done a good job. At least we all don’t have to live in Lusaka mwe. Lusaka is expensive for nothing!! We should give thanks to the chinese for what they are building for us. These guys are good at infrastructure development, the current administration and all future admins [even PF] must ensure that we maintain a good relationship with the chinese. The East are far much better than the West in developing infrastructure in Africa. Let us however make sure that we get as much as we can from the chinese just as they are getting from Africa.
Long Live China – Africa relationship!!
Actually ama cho cho li should build at least a 70,000 seater stadium. We don’t want stampedes pa ndola.
12#Chapi
Northrise University is already there. However, it is a private christian university and not a ‘government uni’ like UNZA and CBU
The key to success here is to keep our Zambian govt officials as far away from this project as possible. They seem to be on an everlasting competetion of screwing up the simplest thing all the time. I wouldn’t trust them to organise a kindergarten party!!!
Inertia and lack of foresight have cost us dearly. While we welcome the building of the stadium, the 40,000 capacity is not encouraging. If it could take $10 million more to have a 70,000 capacity one to be built, it is better to do so. If we have failed to build a larger stadium for decades what makes us think when we begin to host Africa Cup or Olympics we would then build larger ones? The Konkola stampede is still fresh in our minds and yet we still cannot foresee of Zambia hosting regional or continental games 10 to 15 years from now! It is time we began to build stadia simultaneously than to wait for the completion of this one in 2010 to start building the next. If we cannot, let us approach other cooperating partners. Scandinavian countries have been very helpful to us. We receive not because we ask not. Let one country build one stadium in Lusaka, another in Kitwe and another in Livingstone. This should be done in haste.
We have talent but we waste it. Poor administration has let us down and cost us games. Without doubt in my mind modern stadia will help to psychologically boost players’ ego and that of supporters. It is time we rewarded our hard-working players with good infrastructure. Many universities abroad have great fields and yet a nation of Zambia’s caliber cannot afford to have a national stadium? Something should be wrong, and terribly wrong!
#13 You spoke so highly about Tanzania and how they hired a Brazilian Coach. Maybe Tanzania needs to ask South Africa on what the benefits of hiring the world’s best Brazilian coach, have been. Maybe Tanzania needs to find out what the Zambian coach proved to Brazil. Maybe Tanzania needs a Zambian coach, did I hear Namibia say, Amen?
Now it’s 40 000 Seater Stadium! All along we have been hearing 60 000, at some point even 70 000 had been mentioned by the same Ministers/Govt officials, but of course in Zambia such contradictions don’t matter. You say one thing and do another, you’re sure to get away with it;that’s Zambian Politics, very little or no respect at all for the Public’s intelligence. So much about South Africa’s 2010 World Cup!Honestly, I do not see what tangible benefits will accrue from that event by virtue of the Ndola-Sino Stadium.If by any chance one Team chooses to train from that Stadium for 2 wks,how does that translate into real economic gains for the Country? Our Ministers/Govt.must be realistic and concentrate on creating real wealth for the Country and its People through prudent management of the abundant natural resources and development of skilled Human Resource, especially in the area of Information Technoloy. Is Zambia a Journey without destination?
What are the terms of reference regarding the stadium deal. Is it a grant or a loan. If its a loan what are the terms. I dont expect the chan shu to just build a stadium for us. Can someone find out what is going on and who is pocketing the change. If its a loan who is managing the project to make sure funds are accounted for. Remember in this world there is nothing for free.
2 questions come to mind. Number 1 couldnt we as a country raise $70M?
Number 2, Why a 40,000 seater?
I don`t trust chinese products.
The $70m is grant from the Chinese govt but who knows how Zambia will pay i kind to Chian by bringing in Chinese investors in return with free taxes because they have given more thatn any other county has given Zambia on a single project.
Soccer is loved in Zambia i think it will be more appreciated with ultra Stadia in place.
NOT NDOLA PLIZ
LEVY TAKES SWIPE AT COALITION
By ANGELA CHISHIMBA
PRESIDENT Mwanawasa has angrily criticised the Oasis Forum for boycotting the National Constitutional Conference (NCC) and asked them to keep quiet on the matter because they have always sought to sabotage the process from inception.
Speaking in Mazabuka yesterday, President Mwanawasa attacked the Oasis Forum for forging an alliance with former president Fredrick Chiluba to undermine the constitution-making process despite the fact that the man was facing serious corruption charges.
“A few days ago, they were photographed hand-in-hand with somebody the people have accused of committing an offence,†he said.
He was surprised that the Oasis Forum had never condemned corruption.
“What does that mean? Is their hatred for Levy Mwanawasa so serious that they should forget the problems which this country is facing?â€
He said the Oasis Forum was formed to stop Dr Chiluba’s third term campaign, which the MMD had decided not to entertain.
Mr Mwanawasa expected the Oasis Forum to support his corruption crusade yet he had not heard them condemn those accused of corruption.
“There is a judgment in the London court that US$58 million was taken by President Chiluba.
This man has taken this money (and) instead of us looking after the poor and using that money to reduce poverty, he took it himself.
Now he is the one they are holding hands with and inviting to be their advisor.â€
He said those who boycotted the Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) should keep quiet on the NCC.
“This is not the first time they have boycotted a national initiative.
When the CRC was formed, they boycotted.
They went all over the country telling people to boycott the CRC but today the CRC is what they are championing as if they were there when we were cooking this nshima,†President Mwanawasa said.
“As far as we are concerned, they can hit drums, they can even walk naked, we won’t change,†he said.
He said some people had been opposing the constitution-making process unreasonably.
“At first, they said the only thing which was wrong with the constitutional conference was the fact that the President appoints the chairman and vice-chairman, and we said we will give you what you want.
You are going to elect yourself,†he said.
“I thought that was going to be pleasing to them but what do I see, they continuously oppose me.â€
Mr Mwanawasa said he was disappointed that despite some stakeholders stating that they made their own decisions and were not persuaded by anybody, they had decided to follow the Oasis Forum.
The President said demands for the 50 per cent plus one vote presidential winning threshold have been heeded but still new demands kept cropping up.
“As a party we have agreed to it.
So what is their issue?â€
But Government had not agreed to the amendment of Part Three of the constitution to introduce economic and social rights as justiciable rights because that would make the country ungovernable if the State failed to deliver everything every citizen demanded.
Some of the social and economic rights include the right to food, water, education and employment.
“We have not agreed because what this means is that if somebody says I can’t get employment…Mwanawasa, he respects the constitution on which he was sworn must resign.
So how many times are you going to revise Governments? Is it possible for the Government to provide these things?
He said Government had instituted the NCC, which would decide on the way forward as far as the constitution-making process was concerned.
He was disappointed that instead of helping Government promote women’s rights at the NCC, they had decided to stay away.
“NGOCC is a women organisation which claims to protect women’s interests.
But we are more gender-sensitive than they are because when it comes to constitutional provisions, we want to ensure we give more rights to women.â€
“We want their support, we want them to come to the NCC so that they can give us support if anybody opposes MMD on this issue,†he said.
The President urged the Zambian people not to contribute in making the country unstable.
“This is a peaceful country and all that it required is good leadership to chart the way forward.
I believe that the MMD under my leadership has provided that ideal leadership.
If you want to make experiments, you will throw yourselves on black ants,†he said.
Government was encouraging private sector participation as this would be the engine of the Zambian economy.
“Unless you want us to go back to the Kaunda days where party chairmen and party secretaries were paid,†he said.
Government wanted to encourage privatisation.
President Mwanawasa said although the MMD re-introduced multi-party politics, this did not mean that people should join political parties for nuisance value politics.
“If Government is doing extremely well, you will be wasting yourself by throwing your lot with the opposition,†he said.
He said those seeking to make governance difficult were unpatriotic and did not deserve to walk the streets of Zambia.
Mr Mwanawasa said Government had made a number of concessions to accommodate the opposition but that they shifted goal posts each time.
“For us, we won’t change our goal post.
It will remain where it is.
If they want to continue making noise, let them do so,†he said.
Mr Mwanawasa was happy that former Minister of Youth, Sport, and Child Development, Syacheye Madyenkuku, had rejoined the party.
And Mr Madyenkuku said the people in Southern Province had acknowledged the developments under the New Deal administration.
And MMD Southern Province chairman, Mr Daniel Munkombwe, said the MMD was increasing in numbers while others like the United Party for National Development were losing members.
SPECIAL QUOTE
“This is not the first time they have boycotted a national initiative.When the CRC was formed, they boycotted.They went all over the country telling people to boycott the CRC but today the CRC is what they are championing as if they were there when we were cooking this nshima,†President Mwanawasa said.
“As far as we are concerned, they can hit drums, they can even walk naked, we won’t change,†he said.
SPECIAL QUOTE
“This is not the first time they have boycotted a national initiative.When the CRC was formed, they boycotted.They went all over the country telling people to boycott the CRC but today the CRC is what they are championing as if they were there when we were cooking this nshima,†President Mwanawasa said.
“As far as we are concerned, they can hit drums, they can even walk naked, we won’t change,†he said.
I agree with #22.Why a 40,000 seater??? Is it going to take another 40 years to construct another stadium?
Can’t the country afford to build a $70m stadium from internally generated funds??
Bubbly Max arrives to a silent reception
AT about 13:00 hours yesterday at the Lusaka International Airport, the majestic South African Airways flight steadied up on the runway, as some excited faces in a distance awaited in anticipation to catch a glimpse of somebody familiar, descending from its lofty stairs.
Sadly, most of these faces were not there to receive Zambia’s representative to Big Brother Africa II, Maxwell Chongo. In fact, the few that were there to witness his arrival were unwelcoming, almost to a point of being hostile.
Max’s reception at the airport left much to be desired compared to the vigorous red carpeted welcome from the crowd that thronged the eviction show last Sunday in Johannesburg pushing their way forward to touch at least his palms or fingers.
Indeed it was a deep contrast to the one accorded to Cherise Makubale, the 2003 Big Brother winner whose arrival was a frenzy affair that gripped the entire city; from the airport rig
Hello guys, just want to find out what the scores were in the other Olympic qualifying game in Zambia’s group. I know Zambia drew.
#30 Just google such results we have not time to do research for you.
#22 Has asked a question which need any answer. To ans u I start with GRZ has intern debt running in Trillions of Kwacha, which institution can lend GRZ such huge amount of money at a risk. Sport is a service which only generate monies only if good results are there to smile of, so there is need for good management of this stadia so that it can bring cash for its maintanence. Chinese has given Zambia a grant to build this stadia as good gesture this is what is all about trade and partnership. We must cherish this. 40000 seats stadium is enough for a start the next is to build another bigger stadium in Lusaka and Livingstone. To avoid stampede we need hightech tickets will be sold only to full capacity if the is a over selling of tickets the sellers will face the consquences.
It would be nice to find out what really happened to Dag !!
Anyway moving on….now that someone will build a decent stadium in Ndola we should refurbish the other stadia in neighbouring towns and soon we can hold continental championships!! Accomodation needs to be addressed as well as the airport.These supporting facilities are necessary to hold large events.Zambians generally love sport and if we can find a way of making money from it then generations to come will benefit.I hope the Ndola stadium will be multipurpose with gyms,restaurants and shops and a hotel nearby wouldn’t be a bad thing!! There is money to be made in the World Cup year but we lack infrastructure.
Golden Bridge Hotel granted permit
By NANCY MWAPE
THE Zambia Development Agency has granted Golden Bridge Hotels Limited an investment permit worth US 16.9 million for construction of the hotel along Great East
Road.
And the Hotel, a sister company of China Hainan Zambia limited, has authorization from the Lusaka City Council (LCC) for the four-star hotel despite ealier claims by LCC that it lacked approval.
Documents from the council, the ZDA and the Road Development Agency show that the council granted approval for the construction last year.
China Hainan Zambia limited, executive director Xu Qiong said the firm had followed regulatory requirement from LCC, Road Development Agency (RDA) and the ZDA that issued construction permit of a four-star hotel under the tourism sector.
She said contrary to assertions that Chinese investments were flouting procedures, the hotel under construction opposite Zesco, met all regulatory requirements apart from an environmental impact assessment (EIA) report that had now been submitted to Environmental Council of Zambia.
The five-story hotel would have 95 rooms, three conference halls, health centre, restaurants, cocktail bar and a big car park.
Mrs Xu displayed LCC approved planning permission that was signed by acting director of city planning, Joseph Mukupa on May 17, 2006 and a certificate from ZDA signed on August 10, 2007 with a pledged investment amount of $16.9 million.
She also displayed a letter from RDA chief executive officer, Watson Ng’ambi signed on October 31, 2006, indicating the approval of constructing an access road to plot 8018/A along Great East Road.
“We have complied with all regulatory requirements apart from that of ECZ which we did not know about, although not an excuse, the lapse was due to limitation in the knowledge of local environmental regulations,’’ she said.
Mrs Xu said as investors, they were obliged to follow the laws of the land, which they are doing.
“As China Hainan Zambia limited, we have been in Zambia for over 10 years and we regard this country as our second home.
We are encouraged by good Zambian policies and the friendly people.
Our Government also encourages us to invest in Zambia,’’ she said.
She added that the hotel under construction was one of the China Hainan’s big investment projects in the tourism sector to mitigate accommodation problems in Lusaka.
Mrs Xu said the brief report on the project submitted to ECZ highlighted the socio-economic impact of the hotel on tourism, employment, health and cityscape development among others.
She stated that studies on the project’s impact foresee the proposed project would have a general positive impact on the local and general bio-physical and social-economical environment.
“The directive from ECZ to stop construction is disturbing news.
Our fear is that when rainy season starts, the project will be disturbed pushing the completion period further,’’ she said.
And the Environmental Council of Zambia (ECZ) has confirmed receiving a draft EIA report from Golden Bridge
Hotels limited.
ECZ director, Edward Zulu said the company had shown willingness to comply with environmental concerns of ECZ adding that authorization for the project would not take long as the investors have complied with laws from LCC and other agencies.
For goodness sake, Zambia must win the CAN2008 under Phiri and you will all roads leading to Zambia and investment in infrastractures like sports facilities will be theme of the past.
For goodness sake, Zambia must win the CAN2008 under Phiri and you will all roads leading to Zambia and investment in infrastractures like sports facilities will be theme of the past.
Ba Pelete(33),i see you answered my call for more details on the project…….well done and thank you!!
Easy #10
Yes let’s give the Chung chang a chance to do their wonders as they have done in the past. Socrates some issues which I raised in #3. Is it just a donation or a loan? Personally I dislike the idea of begging as a nation. The thieves have more than $500million. How many stadiums and hospitals with modern equipment can we build? Sometimes I tend to think FTJ is not mentally normal.
#31 Easy
That’s being rude. I would rather you just kept quite.
#30.Nyati-RSA its was a 1-all draw. Zambia is leading the group with 7 points. The second placed team has 6 points. We are 4 in the group and only one team will qualify to the olympics. Zambia is yet to lose a game.
Hope that (more than) answers your question. Viva data.
#37 GLUCO my brother you are right. Its a grant.Anyone who has travelled know that most european countries have electrical trains runing on steal from Africa yet Africa has Diesel ones which cause cancer. You ask yourself a question why is it like this? The answer is simple its our leaders and their visionless especially those who have been in power before. Despite not having the technology its enough alone to exchange our ram materials for investments like this. A country like Zambia must been a lending nation long ever with surplus funds just like Singapore, Kuwait, China, Russia etc.
#38 Born Rich Bwana Govt officer what wrong have I done by telling 22 to search for info which is readily available on the internet. Simple and easy.
#36 TOP are you happy now this is kind of reporting we need not half infos from some of these unbarked journs who believe in bad news sells better. However the ? remains is the ECZ going to allow the building continue. What dangers are there?
Long time, just dropped by to say hai to my bro. EASY.
Chapi your MP, Kambwili admitted having said that the attitude of some nurses in the country was very bad but that he had never said beating them was justifiable.
“The attitude of some nurses is terrible. People need to change. I am not going to retract that statement. I will never call a spade a shovel, that I will never do that. I am not going to do that, whether people vote for me or not,” he said.
Kambwili said he was not stupid to support the beating of nurses when his wife was also a nurse.
“I am a very reasonable person. The article was very misleading. I will take The Post to court,” he vowed.
“I am very, very sorry, nurses. I am not a person who supports beating.”
#41 mala-msana wandalama, thank my young bro all is fine are joining us in 2011 as PS or diplomat posting. We start campaigning in 2009 serious.What have you got to say about the chinese and the new stadia. We need ideas looke PLM is clever is correcting useful information even from the grassroots and use to turn the wheel of development of mother Zambia.
Miyanda Godfooling is indeed an idle and very stupid man. In as much as I do not like Kunda for his stinking arrogance, I think Miyanda should not be the one to start apportioning pettiness and shallowness because in termsof such vices, he is the stinkiest skunk.
This is the same satanic captured coup plotter who shovelled the bitter Public Order Act under the throat of the country without any shame and cried out foul player when Levy made him swallow the bitter taste of his own stupid creation. The fooleven had the audacity of trying like Kalumba to hide behind a small “bush” called “Collective agreement” when he knows that all along had he been opposed to the silly Act he always had the option to quit his post. However, the dermagogue stack to his dictorial ways until Chiluba ejected him like a used condom. Chi Miyandering one star coup plotorous stinker, forsake! You shall never rule this country. Go back to Katanga where you legged off to where Chitofwa fished you out from!
A lot of people here are complaining about the size of the stadium. This is what happens when you procrastinate. Three years ago $70m would have built you a 60 000 seater stadium. Not today! Why you may ask? Coz the dollar is losing value!
People this is a step ahead. I congratulate the Govt for this positive move. Rome was not built in one day. Let us appreciate what we are going to have and what we have for the time being. Stop complaining too much. Talking too much does not help. Help the Govt by giving good proposals than ONLY complaining and Condemning the Govt.
Ba Easy(40), your concerns about the quality of journalism in Zambia are very real.Dessimination of information is an art form yet to be mastered by Zambian journalists.Investigative reporting is often shallow and skewed along political lines.The union of journalists needs to look into the standard of reporting by their members.I think we have a training issue here that needs to be addressed.I will not spare the Editors of the various papers who must share the blame for sub standard reporting.
As for the famous hotel next to the flyover, i’m not too sure that it is an ideal location.The last time i checked there is a railway that passes along that area and how will Thornpark feel about the proposed building.I have no doubt Lusaka needs another high class hotel but the chosen location makes me rather uncomfortable.I suppose the town planners know best.I have always wondered how Lusaka town centre would develop so i suppose this is an answer to my curiosity.
Shaka Zulu (44) really has it in for the General !!
#26 #27 is KAFULA/VETERAN an imposter.
# 19 PezKu. You are spot on. Who needs a Brazilian coach? Two nations [Zambia and Namibia, thats 12.5% of the competing teams] have made it to AFCON 2008 with Zambian coaches at the helm!!!
Regarding the stadium, let it be in Ndola. Ndola needs reviving. My only concern is a report I read [i think it was znbc.co.zm] that the stadium will no longer be called Dag, but renamed some as yet unkown title.
Lets find another $70million and build a 70,000 seater in Lusaka, along Great East Road with our OWN funds. I hereby pledge K1,000,000 to the cause.
Kunda is petty and shallow – Miyanda
By Brighton Phiri
Wednesday September 19, 2007 Print Article Email Article
Brig Gen Miyanda
Justice minister George Kunda is petty and shallow, Heritage Party president Brigadier General Godfrey Miyanda has charged.
And Brig Gen Miyanda asked Kunda to think twice about his morality in remaining minister after unjustly attacking The Post.
In his letter dated September 16, to Kunda, reacting to his accusation that he (Brig Gen Miyanda) was among the architects of the country’s current constitution crisis, Brig Gen Miyanda stated that Kunda’s reasoning was shallow if he believed that patriots were only those who licked his boss’ (President Mwanawasa) boots.
“The best patriotism is the one that raises concerns to draw attention to wrongdoing, intended or unintended. I know you are frightened of your own shadows and you know why…there is nothing that is taking place that is hidden.
This is a multiparty system and the sooner you wake up the better,†read Brig Gen Miyanda’s letter in part.
“During the time I have been out of the limelight, I have actively considered leaving politics, but with characters like you, masquerading as lawyers, I have a reason to stay and fight any abuse of government from whatever quarter.â€
Brig Gen Miyanda stated that he was disappointed that Kunda had chosen to be personal when responding to his contribution on the constitution-making process.
“Although I cannot speak for the others whom you have named in your Sunday statement, I cannot let your shallow and wild allegations go unchallenged,†read the letter.
“I am very disappointed that you have chosen to be personal in your response to my contribution on the constitution-making process. One of the things I do not do, unless I have to, is to debate personalities. Since you have attacked me personally rather than debate issues, I am responding in a similar fashion.â€
Brig Gen Miyanda asked Kunda to take cognisance of the fact the President Mwanawasa rushed to assent to the National Constitutional Conference bill before the citizens raised pertinent issues regarding the bill.
He said had President Mwanawasa not rushed to assent to the bill, he could have received from Heritage Party within few days, after the National Assembly passed the Bill, a letter that was prepared to raise pertinent issues before the assent.
“You have characteristically ignored to discuss issues but chose to be personal and petty like a die-hard party cadre. This is a shame for a lawyer and a minister of justice,†read Brig Gen Miyanda’s letter. “By issuing a statement which does not address issues raised by other participants in the debate, you are following the ways of Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s media hit man.
This is the worst form of corruption because you want to win this national debate by deceit, and by withholding information and manipulation of the media. It is corruption of the worst order to take advantage of the lack of knowledge of our citizens by presenting only one side of the debate, the side that pleases you.
You want to win the debate by debating with yourself instead of giving an opportunity to other participants to access the public media which you have continued to monopolise as if it is your village headman’s newsletter.â€
Brig Gen Miyanda reminded Kunda that he had already intimidated the public media’s journalists, such that there would be no fair reporting of both sides of the argument, which was necessary to enable the people understand all angles of the debate.
He stated that Kunda and government’s threats would continue to subsist during the NCC if it took place.
Brig Gen Miyanda told Kunda that he had continued to use intimidation as his most effective tool of oppression.
“Your government’s threat against the public media was not an off-the-cuff pronouncement but a carefully worked out strategy to intimidate, mislead and confuse not only the journalists but the public as well,†read the letter.
“A year or two ago, you Minister of Justice issued threats against civil society, accusing them of treason for proposing a road map…recently, you Minister of Justice, went on the air before the SADC meeting to threaten civil society instead of letting the Inspector General of Police carry out his duties under the Public Order Act.
Which provision of the law were you following when you usurped powers vested in the police? There is no provision in current laws for the involvement of the minister of Justice in the processing of notification for demonstration and matches. Why should we trust that you and your boss will behave yourselves differently during the NCC?â€
Brig Gen Miyanda told Kunda that he was aware and convinced that Kunda knew what he said at the Oasis Forum conference.
He stated that what he said during the Oasis Forum was not different from his contribution during the Face the Media programme aired on Radio Phoenix on August 29.
“I know that you obtained a full unedited transcript. It affected you so much that you caused a sudden programme to be aired and I was again called to be part of it. But you are a coward. Instead of coming yourself you sent the Minister of Local Government,†he stated.
Brig Gen Miyanda challenged Kunda to face him on a live debate on Zambia National Broadcasting Corporation (ZNBC) television and radio in order for him to clear his name against Kunda’s outrageous statement.
“You cannot continue to use public media to reckless disparage other citizens and then continue to call yourself a minister of justice,†read Brig Gen Miyanda’s letter. “In order to achieve fair play and transparency, you must yourself appear on the programme and prove your wild allegations about me being one of the three architects of constitutional problems in Zambia .
The debate will give you chance to repeat in my presence what you said about me. It will also give the public a chance for them to make their own judgement. Come ready with facts.â€
Brig Gen Miyanda stated that if Kunda were a genuine Justice Minister, he should accept his challenge to appear with him on national television to let the people hear and question both of them.
“But you must come ready with facts and authentic government records and any information which you have concerning how I conspired to sabotage our constitution and created the current constitutional problems in the nation.
You should state the specific part I played in destroying this country’s constitution and so I can respond to your fantasies. For a top lawyer, a former Attorney General, you must lean to talk issues, talk law instead of behaving like an unschooled party cadre.â€
Brig Gen Miyanda wondered why Kunda pretended that he had not made effort to contribute positively towards the strengthening of the country’s democracy.
He further wondered why Kunda lied that he had only suddenly begun to speak.
“You know that I begun raising concerns about your so-called new deal regime in 2002. I have not started raising concerns now. You even have the paper ‘Review of the Constitution – The Other View’ of 20th April 2003, which took you nine months to respond to. I can see portions of that in the NCC Act though you did not understand the document,†read Brig. Gen. Miyanda’s letter.
Brig. Gen. Miyanda stated that without being hateful as Kunda alleged, he insisted that President Mwanawasa should not superintend the constitution making process unless he answered the many unanswered questions to the Zambian people about his ascendancy to power.
“Because this is what he will be trying to cover up whenever he is tinkering with the idea of dissolving the NCC. How can the beneficiary of the alleged corruption of Dr. Chiluba oversee the constitution making process?
Dr. Katele Kalumba revealed how, as Minister of Finance, he fully briefed President Mwanawasa about the arrangements for fundraising for his election and how a special committee of Permanent Secretaries was set up under the supervision of Mr. Xavier Chungu,†read the letter in part.
“Apart from legal issues, there are also questions of morality and credibility that have arisen concerning your government’s handling of the constitution making process.â€
He challenged Kunda to explain why the government had resisted genuine dialogue for the last four years, and then suddenly formed an alliance with the opposition.
Brig. Gen. Miyanda wondered why Kunda did not explain why he canvassed in the presidential petition that former Zambia Intelligence Security Services director general Xavier Chungu’s evidence and confession that he was the one who bought the MMD vehicles using government funds, should not be believed by the Supreme Court.
“You have not explained why after this canvassing and while the Court was still sitting, you rushed to London to swear an affidavit to have Chungu pursued for offences to do with the very plunder which you canvassed for the Court to reject,†Brig Gen Miyanda stated. “You never came back to the Court to explain what you had done and apologise.
Had the matter not been exposed in the media, we would have never known about this interference with the course of justice by the Minister of Justice. Let us debate in public this unethical conduct on your part.â€
Brig Gen Miyanda wondered why Kunda took it as hatred for him to point out issues that had created so much acrimony and controversy in the nation.
He reminded Kunda that President Mwanawasa would be attending the NCC with his secrets hidden in his bosom.
“How then can we trust that he would not dissolve NCC when he feels threatened? Has the President sanctioned your statement?†he asked. “President Mwanawasa chose to prosecute Dr Chiluba for theft yet he has kept and continues to enjoy the stolen goods.
Why, Mr Minister of Justice, are President Mwanawasa and his MMD national executive committee not being prosecuted for receiving stolen property from Dr Chiluba? How can he superintend over the constitution making process in the light of these serious questions about his participation in the 2001 corrupt and illegal acts?
The Supreme Court ruled that some of these vehicles, which passed the standard of evidence, be returned; you have not returned these neither has the Task Force done anything about this. How can we trust your leadership? How can we trust the several government delegations you have included in the NCC?â€
Brig Gen Miyanda stated that President Mwanawas’s sudden acceptance to work with the opposition parties under Zambia Centre for Interparty Dialogue (ZCID) was highly questionable and that the speed of assent was another cause of genuine suspicion.
Brig Gen Miyanda stated that President Mwanawasa’s reasons to opt for the NCC instead of the Constituent Assembly did not pass the credibility test.
“First he said that the NCC and CA were the same but that the two phrases were mere semantics. If so why was he going to vote against the CA if they were the same?†he asked.
“In his sermon at the Catholic ordination in Solwezi, President Mwanawasa publicly gave the reason for choosing the NCC as opposed to the CA as the need to have legal backing to obtain government funding. Are you the one who gave the President this advice? Was this meant to appease the huge Catholic congregation?â€
Brig Gen Miyanda challenged Kunda to explain under which Act of Parliament the government funded the previous Indaba, whose resolutions had not yet been published.
“Does this mean that in the absence of an Act you stole that Indaba money?†he asked.
“You must stop being petty. Why is it all right for you to form alliances with opposition parties after receiving millions of kwacha a short while before the summit and yet you say it is wrong for others to come together? Our present bad constitution allows such alliances and assemblies.
Why are you worked up by the Oasis Forum coming together with those they want to associate with? Have you forgotten about Article 21 of the Constitution or are you plotting to remove it during the NCC with your inbuilt majority?â€
On Kunda’s accusations that The Post was working with Chiluba, Brig Gen Miyanda said Kunda’s allegations were misplaced.
“I think he is being petty and childish…his party has just formed an alliance with the opposition under ZCID where the motivations are the receipt of millions of kwacha just before the summit for party presidents,†he said. “Where is the sense of fair play and justice by the Minister of Justice when he accuses the Post Newspaper of glorifying some people? This is unfair to the Post because this newspaper has done its best to give coverage to everyone who has something worth reporting.
In fact it is the Post that published front headline revealing Oasis Forum’s invitation to Dr. Chiluba and as if that is not enough, their editorial was based on castigating not only the Oasis Forum for the bad judgement but also condemned Dr. Chiluba’s policies during his rein. How can that type of editorial be considered as glorifying anybody?â€
Brig Gen Miyanda said Kunda would fail in his attempts to frighten The Post.
“He should think twice about the morality about himself remaining Minister of Justice, considering the records of abuse of police powers and intimidation of citizens. Such threats should come from ignorant party cadres and not from a lawyer.â€
The Post is very stupid – Kambwili
By Zumani Katasefa and Sandra Lombe
Wednesday September 19, 2007 Print Article Email Article
THE Post is very stupid, Roan member of parliament Chishimba Kambwili has charged.
Kambwili has since threatened to take legal action against The Post after it reported that he had justified the beating of nurses in the country.
And some nurses in Luanshya on Monday afternoon staged a peaceful protest, demanding an apology from Kambwili for justifying the beating of nurses in the country.
Meanwhile, Health Workers Union of Zambia (HWUZ) general secretary Lewis Mukosha has appealed to the Patriotic Front (PF) leadership to discipline Kambwili for his statement that the beating of nurses was justified.
Kambwili who was earlier scheduled to hold a press briefing at his residence, house number 92 Independence avenue in Luanshya, said The Post was stupid for reporting that he had supported the beating of nurses.
“The Post is very stupid. That is stupid of you The Post,” said Kambwili when he was asked to comment about the planned protest by nurses.
And speaking during a heated meeting with nurses at the district commissioner’s office, Kambwili said he would take legal action against The Post for reporting that he was in support of the beating of the nurses.
He said he had already instructed his lawyer, Chifumu Banda, to ask The Post to retract the statement or else he would go ahead with legal proceedings against the paper.
“If they do not retract the story, The Post and the reporter Sandra Lombe are going to pay me a lot of money,” said Kambwili.
He also told the visibly irate nurses that he would not apologise for the statement that appeared in the paper, but he would just apologise for the inconvenience the story has caused to them.
Kambwili admitted having said that the attitude of some nurses in the country was very bad but that he had never said beating them was justifiable.
“The attitude of some nurses is terrible. People need to change. I am not going to retract that statement. I will never call a spade a shovel, that I will never do that. I am not going to do that, whether people vote for me or not,” he said.
Kambwili said he was not stupid to support the beating of nurses when his wife was also a nurse.
“I am a very reasonable person. The article was very misleading. I will take The Post to court,” he vowed.
“I am very, very sorry, nurses. I am not a person who supports beating.”
But Post news editor Webster Malido said after scrutinising what Kambwili had been saying ever since he first made his remarks on the issue of nurses, the newspaper was satisfied that the initial report on the member of parliament was not in any way misleading or inaccurate.
Malido said The Post was standing by its story as it was based on an accurate representation of the interview Kambwili had with the reporter, Sandra Lombe.
“But since he (Kambwili) has already opted to go the legal route, he is at liberty to do so and we look forward to meeting him in court,” said Malido.
And the nurses, who were led by the Civil Servant Allied Workers Union of Zambia Luanshya branch chairman Matthews Kabundi and Zambia National Union of Nurses representative Maggie Makulu, complained that they felt unprotected by the statement which came from Kambwili.
Kabundi said Kambwili was not only an opposition member of parliament, but a government leader by virtue of his position and hence nurses expected him to protect them.
Kabundi said although the government employed nurses, they were not government property.
He said the statement by Kambwili had made nurses feel unprotected, saying that some patients had even developed the habit of condemning the nurses telling them that it was justifiable for them to be beaten.
Kabundi said the government should ensure that nurses were protected when performing their noble duties.
And Makulu said following Kambwili’s statement, nurses were afraid for their lives.
Several nurses also wondered why some rude people working in public offices such as banks, shops and other government offices were not being beaten in a similar manner.
And Luanshya district commissioner George Kapu said the government was not in support of Kambwili’s statement.
“As government we know the hardships that you go through as nurses. As government we do not think we can support that statement,” said Kapu.
Meanwhile, Mukosha said Kambwili’s statement was misplaced.
“The statement is misplaced and careless especially that it is coming from a leader. It’s unfortunate that the member of parliament for Roan constituency Kambwili can utter such a statement and turn around and accuse The Post,” Mukosha said.
“I have consulted The Post, Sandra Lombe and Amos Malupenga who confirmed that what was in The Post is what he (Kambwili) said.”
He said the union did not need leaders like Kambwili.
“I am appealing to Patriotic Front leadership to discipline Kambwili because of his careless uttering of a statement which is tarnishing the good image of Patriotic Front as a party. Because honorable Kambwili is a community contaminant so he needs to be quarantined. As a leader he should not say that. He even went further to accuse the press,” he said.
Mukosha urged health workers in Roan constituency not to vote for Kambwili.
Mukosha said Zambia had been advocating for the Keep Zambia Clean and hence the need for political parties to keep politics clean.
#50 that sounds brilliant.I also pledge K500,000.
#50&53 good idea, if you are serious I can open an account where the money can be deposited. I can contribute also K1 000 000. If Zambians can have this kind of spirit you see change to our nation.
# 45 USE YOUR OWN NAME DONT USE OTHER PIPO’S NAMES
Chisamba magistrate commits man to High Court for raping aunt
By Inonge Noyoo
Wednesday September 19, 2007 Print Article Email Article
CHISAMBA magistrate Philip Mpundu has committed a man to the High Court for sentencing after he was convicted for raping his aunt.
And magistrate Mpundu said prisons should be correctional- based rather than labour-based so as to offer complete behavioural reformation to prisoners.
This is a case in which the man believed to be in his early 40s, of Chikumbi village, had carnal knowledge of his mother’s younger sister aged 69.
Particulars of the offence were that the man entered the victim’s house while she was sleeping and threatened that he would burn down the house if she refused to have sex with him.
The man then beat his aunt and continuously raped her throughout the night. He spent the night in his aunt’s house and only left the following morning.
The victim told the court that she sustained a cut on her private parts that was still painful at the time of her testimony.
The woman said she had not been able to walk properly after the ordeal and was only able to come to court with the aid of a stick.
She also wondered why his sister’s son would do such a thing to her.
Delivering judgement, magistrate Mpundu said it was incomprehensible how a man could rape his mother’s younger sister.
He said as a nephew, the man was supposed to protect the woman from rapists and not to rape her himself.
Magistrate Mpundu said there was need for the prisons to employ psychiatrists and criminologists to help the court understand some cases he described as ‘bizarre’.
#56 Pelete good news but dont over do your info style steak to the topic at hand. We need sound contributions here. This is work of the Ministry of social works, courts, police, MOF and Chainama to take care of such *****s.
Ba Pelete(56),interesting snippet whose only intrinsic value is contained in the following:
1.,,,,,magistrate Mpundu said prisons should be correctional- based rather than labour-based so as to offer complete behavioural reformation to prisoners.
2.Magistrate Mpundu said there was need for the prisons to employ psychiatrists and criminologists to help the court understand some cases he described as ‘bizarre’.
these two statements open and close the topic !!
Ba Easy,lekeni ifiloto ati kuti mwakula stadium na K1,000,000,its the govt’s responsibility to do so, if they can spend billions on a Presidential chopper which is not paramount why cant they spend on building stadia which will involve all citizens?Yesterday we read how LPM took a jolly ride over Mazabuka,is that worth the President’s involvement?These are errands where resources are continually being abused instead of making reservations for things like construction of social amneties.Stop day dreaming,and continue to read my copy and paste for now,it contains alot of issues for debate ranging from total disorganisation to lies
Chapi (49),
Who is that Veteran of yours you are associating me too? Where have i become an imposter and under what circumstances when my family name is Kafula? Are you okey? What is so special for me to be given a Veteran name my parents never did? I have neither served in the uniform nor public engaged in public struggles. Where is that Veteran insignia coming from?
#58 Ba Original P that is why Iam posting these articles is to stir debate,well done for your visionary interpretation of the passage.
Ba Pelete(61), you have been more than generous in your comment…….i pray bwana Kafula(60) doesn’t “pounce” on you too!!! Ba Chapi is currently getting ready for round 10 with him/her.If he/she successfully defends his/her “belt” with a TKO you being number one contender, will be next !!
Good luck…we are ringside nursing our wounds !!
The quality of journalism in Zambia is sometimes worrying. I had asked yesterday why one paper reported that the Chinese will build a 60000 seater stadium while some reported that it will be a 40000 seater stadium when they were all at the briefing. As for the stadium, there’s no doubt that the Chinese will build it on time. There are some things which I am concerned about the Chinese such as medicines and toys. But they really build good although the design for the 40000 seater stadium (0n this blog if it is the right one) should have been improved to give all soccer fans some cover. People need protection from the rain and especially from the scorching sun which is now causing cancer in many places. We also need a 60000 seater stadium and not a 40000. GRZ should add on $10 million or more on the Chinese grant. We individuals can also give. But where has the money which I was made to believe was being raised some few years ago for the Dag gone? We need the money back for public use.
those funds for Dag are in Finance Bank i think !!
#59 What EASY is sayin is that we dont have to be parading ourselves to the chinese for projects we are capable of funding.Its just that the begger syndron is so deeply rooted in GRZ that we beg even when we have. As a nation we dont believe its our responsibility to take care of our own business. If we are going to develop, we have to start owning up and start putting our money where our mouth is. we have sunk so low as to ask “donors” to fund the constitution. These are some of the undertakings that a country should be proud of. Zambians always flinch at the mention of the costs. We want good facilities but we want other people to bear the costs. Who put this on us? Look at the shanty situation? If GRZ just desides to build one block of flats every year in misisi compound in ten years misisi would be no more. But we want the chinese to come and build houses for us. That is a shame. By the time the chines are through with us we will be heavily indedbted to china.
Thanks The Original Pundit (64). Can someone tell Mathani to remind those who deposited the funds there that we need them to add on for the new stadium to be expanded. Or are they going to resurrect our Dag in future? I loved that stadium and we need it rebuilt if the new stadium will only accommodate 40000 people. Or we need a public facility like a morden shopping centre or a hotel to be built where Dag once stood. We don’t need private houses there because that was our public facility. The pulling down of Dag is one of the things that Super Ken did badly to Ndola.
Visionary…. The Name dag should mean more to the UN than to Zambians. If the UN valued the memorable site of Dag the should have funded the project.
Ba Visionary(66), i wonder why FAZ didn’t build a camping facility at the Dag site…complete with a gym,training pitches etc.Alternatively we could have built (can still build) a multipurpose sports facility complete with accomodation.Sports teams from various disciplines could book the facility (pay in advance of course)and use it to train before going to the airport ready to fly out and represent the country !!!
The “new” Chairman Mao Stadium must include gyms,restaurants,shops,camping hostels etc.We need it modelled along the lines of Old Trafford or the Emirates…noti fye ichibansa chamupila !! The modern day stadium is open 365 days a year !! For Gods sake there is even an airport just up the road…..how more ideal can such a facility at the Dag site be !!??
#67 don’t get excited by the one win. Pereira is a proven and has a lot of work to do, he will change the SA team eventually. This is a guy who ws pursued relentlessly by England, Spain and Portugal to coach their teams. Already he has scored a plus by convincing Benni to return to the team. To say Bamfuchile and Phiri are better than him belongs on the comedy circuit, Zambia could easily opt for him if the could afford his salary.
Socrates, I when I mentioned resurrecting our Dag, I meant a stadium at the oold Dag site. A stadium at that site can have any name. A name change does not matter to me. We can even call it Kafubu stadium. But let the place be used for public facility rather that using it for private homes. I saw what happened to Kansenshi park by nortec in the early 1980s. I think Village Green is another culprit with Ndola council to blame for lack of foresight in planning.
The Original Pundit, I agree with you. So bye as I go to sleep and see you again later.
70# Let the UN worry about maintaining the monument. Its their responsibility. If they dont build something constructive on the site, i will personally by the land and build a sewerege dump there. They have all the money in the world. Infact the Chairman Mao Stadium” in Lusaka. The UN should rebuild Dag. Or i promise you, i will build a sewerage dump there.
The new stadium will be named LPM Stadium, that’s the idea here, just wait!
Socrates, I (visionary) was just about to close my eyes and then I saw your comment & I need to comment on this one although I am unable to post under visionary. I’ts not UN’s responsibility to rebuild the stadium because they are not the ones who pulled it down. They also don’t care about soccer. Dont worry about th name Dag. We can use our own Zambian names there & chairman Mao somewhere else. A sewerage dump is not a good idea for the place. I am not sure if you know Ndola very well. If we had a council with vision they would have transformed the boating club and the side of old Dad stadium and develop sand beaches for everyone to enjoy including tourists. On top of that, FAZ should listen to good ideas like the one by The Original Pundit (68). I am in a nation where many lakes have been made where there were no lakes. But the area of the old Dad stadium is close to a place with plenty of water provided by a good God. Katolomba is a good place for modernising the already sewerage
Personally I will lead a campaign to oppose the renaming of the stadium if it’s something that stupid. I will march alone through President’s Avenue and up Broadway, all the way to Chifubu if I have to. Let’s keep it Dag stadium [I won’t even dare try and spell the surname!]. Or even Ndola stadium. But not anything remotely related to the chinese. Or our president.
How about Mukuba Stadium?
#72 Yangua Socrates, kwena ulasata mwe. Bushe iwe ulimwina Sambiya? Ama Chung-chang ngabapanga stadium mu Sambiya neshina kuba ilyaci Sambiyan te? They built railline from Kampiri to TZ and the name belongs to Zed and TZ pantu this is our land te? Ine palwandi kuti natemwe name either KK or maintain the same name Dag. There is nothing wrong with that te?
74 Timothy… I didnt literary mean i will build a sewaerage there. I was merely stating the fact that there is a dag monument on the site which should be maintained by UN and not Z. On the name of the stadium , i dont really care for as long as its nothing tribal or political. Like “Kulibonehsa Taa ” or LPM stadium. You can name it Lisulo, Katilungu, Chona etc.
I’m sure the stadium will be called LPM National Constitutional Conference stadium!!
#77 S0cayared,
dag monument is on Sambiyan land it’s was purposed to be maintained way back in KK time. Imwe ba #77 S0cayared, tamweyishiba ati that man Dag-fimofimo was a great man and he died on the good course of stirring piece in DRC and central Africa te? THE NAME DAG MUST BE MAINTAINED OTHERWISE nici nivundu balefwaya.
Teka stadium! What? plz twapapata.
If you are looking for a name of the stadia ask me I will tell the name that suits- The is Mama Mukola Stadium this is best name the stadia can carry. # PeleteI am not a dreamer the day will come when you will know me. When I say we can define our own destiny this not wrong. Wait for the GRZ to come and feed you or even build you a house. Go to Munchen and see that best arena in the world and ask who built it and where did the funds come from. The community did that job. # Ba Joze what did you do to Kuku? Is he a coward? This is one of his weakness.
Fellow Zambians is a staduim that really important to us! We need good quality health care and not a new stadium. What a waste of the much needed resources! our ministers go to morning side clinic when they are ill? we need to pressure our government to provide our nurses and teachers with good incentives. shame on us..? who gives a damn about soccer anyway! our players do not paly for glory anymore…they play for beer….niba chakolwa fye? no focus..they play for the moment? To hell with them …!do not blame anybody if our hosptials are under staffed or lack the necessary equipment to sustain healthy lives….!we the voters have failed as we let our greedy politicians decide our destiny. I hope that all of you supporting the construction of the new stadium are in positions to seek medical treatment in south africa when you need it. what are the benefits of the new stadium …apart from incurring more debt as a nation?
The name should be Ndola International Stadium (NIS). So someone can say I’m going to watch a game at NIS between da da da….and blah blah blah….
#82
You have raised some very important issues there. Indeed we need hospitals and at least one stadium in ndola not three like some are suggesting. I don’t think we need a stadium in livingstone, that place is for tourism only.
#82 & 83 you are debatng lke blind person leading the other. Does Zambia have hospitals and medical staff? Talk of mismanagement and misconcept not that the nation has no hospitals. Every year a budget is allocated to every ministry if the minister of health is not working hard to bring these services home we noble citizens will take the intiative to do so. Sports is one way of keeping oneself health and fit and its costs less or cost nothing. Please dont condem the good job of building a stadia. Instead push for a modern clinic with new equipment. In short you are saying you should stop all actvities because we need a hospital?
Bloggers, we have enough hospitals/Clinics/Health centers in Zambia. What those hospitals lack is drugs, equipment and well paid doctors. KK did a great job in that regard. Why do you want to build more hospitals like we are nation of sick people and we shall continue to produce sick people in abundance? Besides there are many buildings that can easily be turned into hospitals. We need at least five big stadiums. Hosting big tournament will do wonders for our people.
#81 Easy
Easy ala stadia ni plural ya stadium.
Eastern Power, Easy (85) & Chanda Phiri (86) have articulated well to answer what you wrote in (82). I have personally debated on Zambia online & the UPND website in the past under a different name that we need better equipment in our hospitals & that our doctors & nurses need to be paid well. Also, I have commended KK for going to a Zambian hospital when sick rather than rushing to Mornington clinic in RSA & that rushing politicians to RSA should be banned. For stadiums, we need more better stadiums of different kinds of sports. Indeed, sports helps us keep healthy. It also promotes unity. Socrates, I knew that you didn’t really mean putting up a literal sewerage dump. I knew that like I, you feel frustrated by the lack of vision demostrated by our politicians. Hey, I’ve just seen Australia draw with Canada in a Chinese stadium. The stadium though not in Benjing, is designed to protect spectators from the deadly effects of the sun & rain. We need such designs for all our stadiums.
Why are 70% of rural women (and something like one in three urban) delivering babies at home with little or no ante natal care and supervision, and as a result our maternal mortality at 750 women deaths for every 100,000 deliveries- services for which we need limited accompanying equipment- if we have enough health facilities. Guys are kidding, we can choose to have the soccer but a soccer victory wont compensate for our dismal health profile.
#86 Iwe Chanda Phiri u dont know that it is a nation of sick pipo, just look at state house, we a sick presdo Chuchu. In fact we need very urgently a morningside clinic (more than a stadium)at S/House to avoid our sick presdo to travel to SA or UK all the time.
If I came to power and was an ok leader and built 3 70000 seater stadiums in Lasaka,Ndola Kitwe or Livingstone,under my tenure,would I be popular than Chiluba and Mwanawasa?
Absolutely,it means that you will have contributed greatly to the economy because in a few years Zambia will host the Africa cup of nations which will bring revenue to the country.
#87 Ba Joze Stadia is Zanglish und it means a stadium and an arena. Two in one by air.
thats what we call development in in a country
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