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Zambia is indebted to Cuba – RB

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President Rupiah Banda says Cuba has remained a reliable partner in Zambia’s development.

Mr. Banda said it was the desire of the Zambian government that bilateral relations between the two countries are strengthened further.

President Banda was speaking when he received letters of credence from Cuban Ambassador to Zambia Carmelina Ramirez Rodriguez at State House today.

Mr. Banda expressed gratitude to Cuba for the long standing economic, scientific and technical cooperation that has enabled the two countries and people’s to realize their human aspirations.

He pointed out that in the field of education, Zambia has over the years been a recipient of Cuban technical assistance that has included scholarships for training in Cuban universities and other institutions of higher learning to specialize in various disciplines including medicine.

President Banda said they are currently 45 Zambian students studying in Cuba, a scenario he described as commendable and a worthwhile gesture from the government of Cuba.

Mr. Banda further said Cuba and Zambia have always worked closely together to safeguard the interests of third world countries.

President Banda said Zambia has supported and continued to support Cuba at various international fora on the many issues facing Cuba such as the economic embargo.

He said Zambia recognizes that we are living in a globalized world in which closer contacts must be seen to be promoted as much as possible.

On the opening of an embassy in Havana, President Banda said government was examining and considering that possibility.

Mr. Banda said the Zambian government realizes that Zambia has much to gain from having representation in Cuba on a residential basis.

He said Zambia is impressed with Cuba’s ideals of self reliance and sustenance adding that Zambia is ready to learn from Cuba’s experience.

And Cuban Ambassador to Zambia Carmelina Ramirez Rodriguez said Cuba and Zambia share a long history of bilateral cooperation, based on friendship and mutual respect.

Ambassador Rodriguez said Cuba stands willing to continue to strengthen cooperation between the two countries which can be diversified and expanded.

ENDS/CM/AM/ZANIS

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98 COMMENTS

  9. Pinkly

    Iam around my dear where can i go when all my friends are here.just bring ci story sa we wait to call it a day.

  10. Pinkly, Maybe they are upset cause Baby C is no where to be seen as you know that she is so special to us. your name sound familiar

  13. #6 Pinkly am very much around,was jus frustrated by 1blogger who was talking from her legs,otherwise am cool n stress free ni friday lelo ka?

    Aside that,pardon my ignorance.The technical assistance mentiond inda article including scholarships,is it da Cuban govt tht pays or zambian bursaries committee?

    Pliz respond 2me properly,am not in a mood of castigations..

  14. RASHID JONES,Matworld

    Man ka money komwela kakalibe kuoneka nanje.Am in troble dont know what to do.Should i give u my a/c #?

  15. Zoe

    Hmmm! it very dangerous to talk with legs, because all your senses join in! dont worry. Its friday! dont let useless bloggers ruin your day! malabishi :o)

  16. Pinkly, there is something familier about you but let me just keep quiet cause obvious you have the clue of what im talking about.

  21. Pinkly,

    hi dear,my suggetion has worked and only Rashid jones know wat am talking abt.Big up rashid u gave me a clue at #16.Man i’ii sign up for new email address for #17

  23. Man Kunde and the Mwine, tulukusheni mwalashisanga ishabwalwa.Manje ma gelo mwalabapela inshi. Ifwe tulale…………………oh sory tulapyamo nangu tatukwete kaili u men u owez want 2pliz us and who r we 2refuse yo offer?Kunwafye

  33. Zoe

    intresting, twalalwa lets hope u guys wont change the type of beers u drink coz of us guys. will see how the day ends mwandi things ar bad those guys u will meet dont trust them atleast us we say the truth and we drink a lot wen we start

  34. **==**==**== lets have offices in HAVANA,its easy to buy guns from cuba.

    am broke!! someone to assist,katwishi ngatulenwa!!

  39. RB you keep that contact from Cuba.They are currently 45 Zambian students studying in Cuba, a scenario he described as commendable and a worthwhile gesture from the government of Cuba. Is it the Cuban Government paying for all the 45 or the Zambian? OK, whoever is paying. I want to Study in Cuba. It is the only place in the world where I can do what i want.

  40. Man Kunde

    dont worry, ok i will come ku Mukuba and scream…Man Kunde from Lt please raise your hand!!!!!! is it ok with you?

    Rashid

    I will go driving but mum is coming with me.

  42. Man Kunde, I have noted that one, i will contact you soon.
    Pinkly, so what are you saying, cause we cant be in the same ride with your mum. Give her your car and then you will go with me.

  43. Beggers in the name of Nyama Soya will always express their ingonarance in order to induce the so called Diplomats, who in turn becomes “SPY’s,while others are there to exploit ZEDIAN God given resources and take us backwards.Alas!!!!!!!!!!!!

  46. Bla bla blah…:-@
    Why don’t you just emulate Fidel Castro in his struggle against capitalism and western imperialism instead of just talking..

  53. Rashid

    Ok leave that to me. i will sweet talk her and buy her airtime, then she will forget all about the trip. We ve finally solved the puzzle.

  54. Labour and Social Security Minister, Austin Liato said in an interview in Lusaka that calls to extend business hours were welcome but employers should look at alternative staff shifts.

    Mr Liato said extension of trading hours would enable businesses attract more trade.

    Commerce, Trade and Industry Permanent Secretary, Davidson Chilipamushi, when contacted, said the ministry would soon resolve the issue to enable trading houses remain open until late hours.

    Mr Chilipamushi however said he would give a detailed report after consultations with the Ministry of Justice.

    Last year, the Ministry of Commerce, which was in the process of facilitating legislation to extend shopping hours,

  59. The blogging section of LT has really gone to the DOGS! Thats the reason real bloggers who wanted to really inculcate knowledge and provide advice have left! SHAME!

  60. Time to go and get high. Pinkly, please take care my dear and keep it real. Man Kunde, matworld,Zoe, Ba Moze and everyone else take care and dont forget the advise from PF die hard. cheers!!! :-h

  61. #59. £ na $ pakati.
    I agree with you. The calibre of the bloggers is that of Kaponyas.
    That is why I lough at their analysis whenever they attempt to analyse.
    One of them was busy saying,

    “People say PF is for kaponyas; where did PF get the largest number of votes? Is it not in towns where we have the educated? This is where we have doctors, teachers, lawyers, etc.”

    I looked at the reasoning, I said to myself, “ignorance is very expensive; it can cost you even your integrity”
    This person has no idea that over 70% of the people in town are uneducated. He also doenst know that we have no kaponya in villages. All Kaponyas are in towns; that is why PF ticks in towns.

  62. Fine!, Go and sleep and stop lecturing people on the blog. we are blogging to have fun. we have worked and thus why we can afford to blog the whole day.

  63. Don´t just thank the Cuban government over what it is doing for you. You should as remember to improve the BC for your students in Cuba. Send more medicine students as this will help to improve our healthy system.

  64. #62. Rashid Jones
    But you can not just be having fun even on serious issues.
    You can’t be at war and you choose to replace your guns with guitors and you start dancing.
    I think that every topic has a context with which it can be explored, such that even jokes aught to be within range of the topic.
    You dont just bring anything you can remember to the public debate and you start to lough.
    Even what you talk about there is need to way whether such jokes would be generally accepted by the public or its just a few of you that will be happy with them.

  65. Cuba is a very good example of what can be achieved when serious people are in charge. Imagine how long the Cubans have survived the evil economic sanctions imposed by the USA.

    The Cubans were once ruled by tyrants who copied foreign models and caused great disillusionment among the people. Then came revolution and Fidel Castro. The rest, as they say, is history but the biggest lesson we can learn from them is that of revolution. Get rid of the lousy bunch of self-serving ‘polytrickcians’.

  67. Zambia should decide where to align herself, this non-aligned ism just cofuses the masses. Thats why development eludes us

  68. #Rogue Trader
    Thanks for bringing the topic alive again. They almost killed it completely.
    The example of Cuba you have brought is excellent. To some extent I am adding Lybia.
    But when I look around me I see that we import even toothpicks which can be made by even street kids.
    Now, I would call for great surgery to our way of thinking if we are to achieve such strength to survive.
    We can’t be a market for everything except raw materials. And we cant be expeoting almost nothing apart from raw materials.
    Our journey would be very long, but the earlier we start it the better.

  69. #67 Kasai Kanko

    I think you have a point. We don’t seem to know who we are. We don’t have any coherent strategy or ideals to guide us to prosperity.

    As the saying goes “If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.”

  70. amano yafuma mwifwesa yaya muchulu, #64 just ignore the jokers. We appreciate your calibre of debate and I know that there are many who share my sentiments about this joking thing

  71. back to the topic under discussion, our political parties should not just make unfounded pronouncements, let us know what the party in power stands for, as for MMD, they were just a movement towards multipartism. Today, there coul be up to eight different political ideologies in the so called rulling party, a product of try and error politics

  72. #68 Fine!

    I agree that we have a big problem on our hands. We opened our markets without thinking and killed all our local industries. I’m not against the market forces but we can’t carry on as a nation that specialises in non-renewable raw materials. That’s all we do and everyone recognises that our current economic model is flawed (if it actually exists).

    All it takes for us to improve is identify areas in which Zambia has a competitive advantage. We could then direct our endeavours towards activities that enhance such advantageous positions. That will mean our investment policies, taxation, regulatory framework, town planning etc all being geared towards these areas.

  73. UNIP once upon a time stood for something concrete, not the present day unip. PF, they just seem to want to make the next govt, UPND, well there could be something to argue about in theory, but nuthing to bring hope to this nation. HP with there village concept, who even understands this so called village concept???? LPP who are they??

  74. Exactly, actual practical steps need to be taken.
    In addition to many tax policies and incentives for the local investors their has to be deliberate discriminatory trade/import policies.
    There is no country that lives everything to the market forces. the government has to identify the country’s economic strengths that will help achieve certain objectives.
    For example, western countries will not allow certain goods to be imported into their countries. RSA, for example, will not allow goods like second hand cars from japan to be registered in their country. This is because the govt must know that for certain goods even tax policies will not solve the imbalance.

  75. pipo leta choose developed countrie to aline ourselves to not cuba what can they offer us apart from guns? to be honest RB is not favoured by other countries he is out of touch

  76. #73. Kasai Kanko
    You are right, your analysis speaks closely to the actual behaviour of these parties.
    For HP I tend to think they have very good prenciple concept, the village concept.
    However, they have not explained it wide enough.
    I listened to Gen. Miyanda one time, and i was very satisfied with the points he made about Village Concept.
    He stated that it is focust primarily on widening buysiness areas to rich every part of the country. It is inclined towards improving infrastructure in the rural areas to encourage investment opportunities in such areas.
    It identfies that each area in zambia has its unique economic advantage.

  77. Fine & Rogue Trader, I like the way you are comming. If only this govt could listen to such kind of debate, maybe they might just pick something.

  78. HP hopes that by opening up the various potentials in rural areas they will increase the participation of people about the development activities to allow much wide contribution to our economy.
    They will also create room for exploiting the potentials Zambia has in all its unique districts.
    They also hope that through that most of the people in town who are doing nothing or things of less importance will see better opportunies in other developing areas of Zambia, more like what is happening to Solwezi.
    This will decongest current towns and make it easier for development and service delivery, as you know that overcrowding can cripple local authorities in service delivery.

  79. maybe be what Zambia needs is some serious civic education. Most if not all NGOs are just about HIV & AIDS, people don’t know what to go for when choosing a political party to support. Its like the trend is more about going for the most loud mouthed leader or some rebel minded fellow.

  80. And without service delivery by local authorities meaningful development becomes almost impossible.
    This is because most of the services are needed for both industrial activities as well as the well being of people or residents of any given town.

  81. the other problem with Zambian politics is that we do not have a system where the media tries to bring the contesting political parties to debate on how they inted to change things. I mean the kind of debate where the voters can try to deduce who makes more sense for them. We keep wanting to compare our democracy to wourld powers like USA without bothering to emulate the maturity of debating that these nations have in public view.

  82. #81. Kasai Kanko
    You are right. That is why HP cannot fit into the politics of Zambia.
    It is very sad that sometimes people with briliant ideas cannot be heard and subsquently tick, while people that may not have any much meaningful ideas will be heard because of their oratory capacities.
    But that is the world we live in and the is the reason why the points you have brought about of sensitisation become crucial for our development.

  83. #76

    I’m impressed by what you’ve said about the HPs village concept. It seems that they actually applied some thought to it. What they need to do is grow their party by applying the same village concept when recruiting party members ie, start from the grassroots. Presently, we only hear about them when their leader files his nomination forms at the 11th hour of each presidential election.

    #79

    It is a sad truth that we have not done enough to improve civic education. We do have NGOs such as Operation Young Vote, FODEP and the Anti Voter Apathy Project. I guess we all need to do our bit to sensitize the masses on the need to hold our leaders accountable for their actions and inactions

  84. HP, according to #78, seems to have a good approach, but what I think is that this Idea as you have outlined it, is just clear to the HP president. What they ought to be doing is to try and sell the idea to the people way before presidential election dates are announced, like now.

  85. #83 Rogue Trade, I totally agree with you.

    I know that a lot of Zambians in the diaspora have a heart for the motherland, the only problem we have is the fear of the porverty prevailing in our nation. What we need to bring meaningful change is to sacrifice for the motherland. I must admit that I am a culprit as regards this fear of poverty. But I know that deep down our hearts there is some partriotism just wating to be aroused.

  86. Maybe if more people took an interest in studying politics, there will be born a new generation of leaders of the calibre we so much desire for the motherland.

  87. You are very corrent collegues.
    HP has not explained their thoughts to the masses; the platform they are waiting for is a little ideal other than real in Zambia. It may never come but they need to follow it.
    Sometimes i wonder whether, General Miyanda is a politician or not, of course not in the zambian context. But is he a leader, the answer is yes.
    that is why i like america because appointment to leadership in goverment is not only on the basis of politics but on that of capacity to deliver and contribute.

  88. Guys if we are going to yap then we should make sure we have our backs covered!

    #61 What is lough?

    Sorry just being pendantic! Nah just having fun! :d

  89. Fine your spelling is appaling! Did you ever do spellings at school?

    Didn`t you ever learn that it is not america but America?

  92. If the people of Solwezi are asked the same question, it will be interesting to hear what they have to say. They had extensive interaction with Cuban doctors and cuban fighters from across the border, during the savimbi years.

    I hear that they left a trail of fatherless children,…not sure if we need to feel indebted on that score. I have lovely Cuban friends, but I challenge strongly the extent to which we should extend gratitude,…I mean for what exactly ????

  93. Let us give each other credit guys, I write and speak more than four languages, most of my proffessors at collage could only speak their mother tangue. I say this on behalf of many Zedians out there, and you know am right guys. Mind you, English is not our first language guys. Umusungu ngati alande nokulemba ichibemba nangu ichinyanjya as fluent as I do his English, ninshi ni linguist proffesor, and his accent will not even be that good.
    Let us just continue debating guys

  94. # 93 Bakaamba, dats the whole point. Its not about who can speak more fluently or spell more correctly in a certain language but the idea that someone is trying to put across.

    Dats why i have not pointed out to you da fact dat its spelt ‘Professor’ and ‘tongue’ or ‘college’ bcoz u wud have blamed it on the keyboard anyway. LOL

    Dats y am saddened by boys/girls from Zambia who desperately try to put on an english accent and fail miserably. English is just a universally accepted medium of communication, and you can speak it with either an African, Carribean or Asian accent. Nobody in the western world will laugh at you!

  95. Oki… I make you guys a proper blog. this is a place where we post comments on news. Not for getting a date with Baby C or similar.

    Hold on… I am onto the job. The result will be presented here sooner or later.
    Me i dont just talk the talk, but walks the walk:-)

  96. ZAMBIA IS NOT INDEBTED TO ANY COUNTRY. ZAMBIANS, DON’T BE CHEATED. WHEN WE GET INTO ANY CONTRACT WITH ANY COUNTRY THERE IS MONEY INVOLVED-WE HAVE TO PAY THAT COUNTRY FOR THE GOODS/SERVICES THAT COUNTRY WILL PROVIDE. AND WE PAY. NO COUNTRY HAS EVER SAID THEY ARE INDEBTED TO ZAMBIA. NOT EVEN THOSE WE DIRECTLY HELPED TO RELEASE THEMSELVES FROM THE YORKS OF INJUSTICE. WE GAINED OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM OUR OWN FATHERS COURAGE AND INITIATIVE. SO, HOW CAN ZAMBIA BE INDEBTED TO ANOTHER COUNTRY. SO, IF YOUR PRESIDENT HAS NO SPEECH TO MAKE, HE SHOULDN’T EVEN MAKE ONE AND JUST SHUT UP. AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE FURNISHING OUR OBLIGATIONS WE DO NOT OWE ANYTHING TO ANYONE.

  97. #59. YOU ARE SPOT ON. I AM BLOGGING HERE COZ I AIN’T GAT A CHOICE. MOST BLOGGERS ARE NOT SERIOUS PEOPLE. THEY BLOG COZ OF THE AVAILABILITY COMPUTERS IN THE FIRST WORLD. ANYONE CAN AFFORD A COMPUTER AND PAY FOR THE INTERNET SERVICE. I ALWAYS WISHED THERE COULD BE SERVERAL BLOG SERVICES IN ZAMBIA TO COMPETE WITH LT. THE OTHER NEGATIVE THING ON THIS BLOG IS THAT LT SENSORS UN-NECESSARILY. THEY NEED SOMEONE TO COMPETE WITH.

  98. #61 FINE. DON’T BE SO STEREOTYPICAL. MOST OF THOSE KAPONYAS ARE NOT KAPONYAS DUE TO LACK OF EDUCATION BUT DUE TO LACK OF JOBS. IT WOULD BE WRONG FOR YOU TO CONCLUDE THAT ANYONE SELLING AT ANY MARKET HAS NO BRAINS. IN FACT, THE FACT THAT HE HAS DECIDED TO SELL IS HAVING BRAINS IN ITSELF. SOMEONE WITH NO BRAINS WOULD DECIDE TO START ROBBING OTHER PEOPLE. MOST OF YOU BLOGGERS LIVE ABROAD AND THERE ARE ALSO TUNTEMBAS HERE. I WONDER WHY U VE RESPECT 4 KAPONYAS HERE THAN THOSE AT HOME. KAPONYAS HERE MAY NOT EVEN B AS EDUCATED AS KAPONYAS IN ZAMBIA. IS IT TO DO WITH YOUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX?

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