ZIMBABWEAN President Robert Mugabe stormed out of the recent Southern African Development Community (SADC) summit after an explosive clash with Zambian President Levy Mwanawasa during a closed session, it has emerged.
Mugabe’s confrontation with Mwanawasa and his subsequent indignant departure from the meeting raised fears that the already divided regional bloc could be further weakened by further infighting and divisions.
The SADC is riddled with geo-political and personal rivalries among leaders which threaten to make it difficult to deal with internal conflicts and rein in rogue states. Mugabe’s fracas with Mwanawasa was reminiscent of his row with former South African president Nelson Mandela during a SADC meeting in Angola in 1997.
Diplomatic sources who attended the summit revealed this week that Mugabe walked out of the meeting after a row with Mwanawasa over Zimbabwe’s political and economic crisis.
The sources said Mugabe went off in a huff after the unprecedented confrontation. Mwanawasa was chairing the meeting, which ended on a sour note.
The wrangle was caused by an attempt by Mwanawasa to table Zimbabwe for discussion, a move which enraged Mugabe.
Mugabe arrived home early looking glum after hurriedly leaving the summit. Upon his return, he said the meeting went well but made it clear his regime would continue with its own programmes, regardless of what the SADC leaders were saying.
The SADC said it was preparing an economic recovery package for Zimbabwe, but Mugabe’s spokesman, George Charamba, said in his anonymous column in the government-controlled daily Herald that Zimbabwe did not need help from the region because “no aid cent will come from SADC countriesâ€, reflecting Mugabe’s attitude after the summit.
This was contrary to President Thabo Mbeki’s claims that there were no divisions over Zimbabwe at the summit and that the SADC was committed to helping Zimbabwe out of its crisis. He had described reports of division as “fictional†and said SADC leaders were not at odds over Zimbabwe.
But information gleaned from senior SADC diplomats indicates there were not just divisions, but a fierce clash between Mugabe and Mwanawasa that left the regional leaders shocked. They say the trouble started after Mbeki del-ivered his report on talks between the Zimbabwean ruling party Zanu (PF) and the opposition Movement for Democratic Change (MDC).
Mbeki had earlier given the report to Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete, the chairman of the SADC organ on politics, defence and security. Mbeki briefed the summit on Zimbabwe in his capacity as an SADC -appointed mediator .
Mbeki said in his briefing there was progress in the talks, although parties needed to intensify negotiations.
“After Mbeki delivered his report to the summit, Mwanawasa, as the chair of the meeting, said there was an urgent need to discuss Zimbabwe because the situation there had become ‘unacceptable’. Kikwete said there was no need to discuss it because talks were in progress and Mbeki concurred,†a senior diplomat said. “Kikwete then suggested Mugabe should be asked what he thought about Mwanawasa’s proposal. When Mugabe was given the platform to speak he launched an angry tirade, attacking Mwanawasa left, right and centre before walking out in protest.â€
The diplomat said Mugabe angrily asked: “Who are you, Mwanawasa? Who are you? Who do you think you are?â€
“Mugabe also said he was aware of Mwanawasa’s recent meetings with western intelligence agencies on Zimbabwe. He said he would ‘not allow Mwanawasa to sell out Zimbabwe as he has done to Zambia’,†the diplomat said.
“During the process Mwana-wasa was shaken and he kept on saying: ‘Mr President I didn’t mean to say that; you misunderstood me. No, Mr President, that was not my intention’ .â€
Sources said Mugabe, after blasting Mwanawasa, walked out and did not return.
Efforts by colleagues — including Kikwete and Mbeki — to persuade him to return to the meeting failed.
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Viva Mwanawasa Viva. Mugabe is a fool. he runs ways from his own problems.
Gee..I don’t like LPM, but am deeply upset and offended by this. You don’t talk to my president like that. How can you ask the President of the Great Republic of Zambia a question like ” Who are you..?”. This is nonsense and total disrespect by this little spoilt tyrant from the stone age of politics.
We should just close that border and stop sending our maize there. After all no Zambians drive through that country. Who wants to be stuck in fuel queues in a foreign country. Silly old man, maybe his mind is failing him.
What kind of stupidity is this? Bob Mugabe, who the hell do you think you are? An angel? Fool. That’s who you are!!
Iwe Chi Mugabe, you have failed your own people and you keep blaming ba mudala ba George W. Bush noomukaamba Tony for the problems you have created for your country.
Abanobe balikutumpika sana!! Dont drag our dear State Counsel in this. He is not in your league!! What i mean is that you belong to the lower league. St***d f**l.
Jesus, am still hurt by this fool. He cant tell my president that rubbish. Who the devil on earth does he think he is. Go to hell with your problems. We are only trying to help and you want us to plead? Stupid, foolish,dull, stubborn for nothing, irresponsible, ungrateful, old, senseless brat.
I think Mugabe went too far.LPM should not even have apologised.Leaders in southern Africa are so messed up they cant see how Mugabe is dragging them to the hole.They stand for him and he spits in their faces. The cries of ordinary Zimbabweans has fallen on deaf ears for too long.It is time Mugabe gave way.We are tired of this old fool
yaba!
This crooked old timer who calls himself ‘President’ has really upset me!! Ukaleke ukupepa dobo. ilakufulunganya sana. walitumpa.
As for our dear LPM, we are proud of you, atleast on this score.
Africa needs to unite and work together, and the rest of the world will have great regard for Africa.
What kind of behaviour is this from African leaders? Such an important meeting goes horribly wrong because of one insensitive politician from Jurasic park, and they conclude it all went well! The Zambian president should be given merit for been the first and only African leader to recognise that the led in Zimbabwe have suffered enough. Like the American declaration of indepedence says, a leader with every characteristic of a tyrant is not fit to rule a free people.
ala kwena chi Robert walitumpa.
mukanwa ukubola kwati amafi.
Somebody assasinate Mugabe pliiiiz. So lawyer wama lawyer was silenced huh!
LPM is wrong to try to destabilise zim by working with the CIA. Like mugabe said, who does lpm think he is. LPM has soldout zed to foreigners i.e. in mining, tourism, agriculture and now even gov’t itself is up for grabs. Zed is not developing bcoz we still have 75% unemployment which is just the same as the unemployment rate in zim so what is ba LPM calling ‘unacceptable’? If the situation in zed remains the same and the situation in zim remains the same as well all the way through to 2011 when ba lpm steps down from the prez office, we will find that 3/4 of zim will be in the hands of black zimbabweans while in zed over 3/4 of the ecomony and politics will be controlled by foreigners. So I ask who is doing the right thing here between lpm and mugabe?
The problem is LPM has no clue with the men he is dealing with in Zimbabwe. Firstly Mugabe has 17 degrees, 10 of which he studied and earned them. LPM has only one average law degree. Zimbabwe was born out of the barrel of the gun(Chimurenga) where Comrade Mugabe was basically a guerrilla leader somewhere in the bushes of Mozambique. I have no pity on LPM, he has sold the sovereignty of Zambia and thinks he can the same to Zimbabwe and other African states. He needs to trade carefully with land issues in Zimbabwe; he grabbed from UNZA and so far no one has harassed him yet.
I don’t blame Mugabe, LPM has sold off zambia to foreigners, he deserves hash words from mugabe. Viva robert mugabe, you ‘re a fear-less african true leader
Fellow Zambians, supporting Mugabe you are all missing the point.Mugabe has attacked our leader and we should stand up for our own. We know LPM is a nut case but the fact that he is our leader and was attacked we should all stand up and be united. If he was attacked by a Zambian that is ok but being attacked by Mugabe it is an absolute insult to our sovereignity.LPM should have even detained that Motherf,,,. # 13 you sound Zimbabwean and a Mugabe sympathiser, you need to check yourself.# 14 , whatever wrong LPM has done, if he is attacked by a foreigner we need to address that regardless.We need to stand tall like the Americans do for their country.After 9/11 they stood by Bush despite his failure.Somewhat we need to do the same for LPM despite is short comings
No. 13, what good are degrees if you can’t use them to better your own life or that of your own people. Rather silly argument. I’m not a fan of Mwanawasa but on this score I’ll support him. As a post liberation struggle president, I don’t think Mwanawasa will be clouded by sentiments or associations from that era in addressing the Zimbabwe issue. For once he can put his arrogance to good use. Mugabe should be called to account. Zimbabwe is decaying, and not just because of foreign influence. Start with the man in the mirror!
I feel sorry for #14,13,12. you guys have no sense of patriotism. Your leader is blatantly attacked and you support the attacker.It is a stranger behaviour. # 15 has a point, whatever the difference or mistkes LPM has made if an outsider attacks him each and every Zambian needs to stand up and protect the presidency.I dont think Mugabe would have taken it lightly if he was attacked in his own territory. Levy should have never apologised. Mugabe is obsolete and whatever means necessary should be used to get rid of him.This Africanism crap should not be used to cripple the continent.Time for stone throwers is long gone
I don’t understand why LPM should connive with foreign intelligence agencies to destabilise Zimbabwe? Has he got nothing else to do? Does he understand the implications of Zimbabwe going to war as a consequence of his actions? LPM must concentrate on Zambia where only 10% of the population control the total wealth of Zambia, and he has failed lamentably to empower fellow Zambians. The little empowerment Zambians are enjoying was brought by FTJ that he desperately tries to destroy every day.
THis little old brute sis arrogant for nothing. He was not in good books with the Greay Mandela. He though after KK had left, he was going to steal the Political limelight in SADC, but nay it was mandela.Now he is on Mwanawasa, we are trying to help you and you are shouting and belittling our President. It does not matter how many degres you have, but if you are not wise as you are, then you are nothing. Zambia needs to roll its army in Zimbabwe to drive the Little dictator away. Mugabe you stink men!
# 18 Dont spoil this debate with yo support 4 FTJ.Mugabe has overstayed his welcome in Zimbabwe
I am surprised that there are people supporting Mugabe on this blog after he attacked our president.What is wrong with us Zambians? The mere fact that Mugabe dared the Presidency on our land, we should not even celebrate his antiques.Wether Mugabe was right or wrong , the bottom line is he dared us on our soil and we find time to support him. Come on Zambians we can do better than that.We are harrased in Zim and their leader harasses us in our country.I am deeply hurt and i feel our president should have let Mugabe’s behaviour to light long time ago.We need to be like our friends in the US.They stood together when attacked and they are a proud pipo. That is why USA is a great country.Patriotism should prevail when situations like these come to the fore.
Let’s not declare war with Zim. Those are our brothers and they shouldn’t suffer because of 1 man’s arrogance. Why doesn’t he want the issue of Zim to be tabled? What is the secret behind all this Zim issue? If he can’t talk with his own brothers, who is he going to talk to?
Easy! Our man is letting us down.
And why is LPM talking these untrusted westerners. Maybe that’s why he’s annoyed with you.
If Mugabe insulted LPM without cause I will be the first one to condemn such behaviour, but in this case a diplomatic source has blown the cover that LPM has been secretly been conniving to sell out Zimbabwe. That calls for total condemnation from any sensible human being.
#12, 13 and 14 be happy you are not living in Zim at the moment. Your minds are still with the properous Zim you knew 8 years ago. The people providing a safe haven for you out there overseas are the same ones trying to bring the same for the people you’ve left on the continent. When somebody in the west comes up to kick out foreigners in their lands like yourselves, the good citizens bring that person down. Here you are, applausing the cause of misery to ordinary Zim folk. You need to go home then, and kick out the ‘sovereignty buyers’. Otherwise, pray that a leader like Bob doesn’t prevail over the good citizens of your now adopted home countries.
LPM should step down before he brings war to peace loving Zambia.
So, that’s how LPM turned his whip on Sikatana? I now see that the reasons given for the firing of Sikatana were “genuine”
Both LPM and Mugabe are a danger to their respective countries as can be seen from their lack of diplamacy in resolving pertinant issues.
Mwanawasa should have approached Mugabe in person to ask him on the need to discuss the affairs of Zim not to embarass him in front of other leaders. Mugabe is solely responsible of the economic woes Zim is going through but still he is the prez and must be accorded diplomatic respect. On the other hand Mugabe was disrespectful to Prez and ridiculed him in front of other leaders. This behaviour by Mugabe is uncalled for a prez no wonder zim is going through all these troubles.Mugabe should have called for the postpondment of the meeting so that he could meet LPM to discuss their differnces instead of behaving like a money the has stepped on a sharp pin.
This is just an example of how our region lacks dignified leadership and who can blame foreigner literally taking over Zed
I can not defend LPM just boz zed prez. He is careless when he talks
#23 Those allegations of coniving with the west are the usual ways and tactics of Mugabe to try and deflect attention from the fact that he has has run the country down and his old ideas just don’t work in the modern setup. Come on, what is in Zimbabwe for Zambia to seek the west’s help to take over ZIM. As a matter of fact Zambia has been a real beneficiary of the mess in ZIM, economically. All tourists come to zambia now. All that LPM is doing is just trying to help the brothers across. And Zimbabweans refugees like #12, #13 and #14 on this blog should appreciate that. This not about sell out your country, it’s about helping you get back to normal. Silly Bob.. blame Blair, blame Bush and now blame Mwanawasa.
#22 GLUCO, who is annoyed of me LPM or Bob? Iam a noble Zambian with a free mind so long Iam not insulting anyone and talking sense I have no fear. Thinks have to be put right over Zimbabwe. someone has interest to see us go war with our neighbors like DR Congo, Rwanda, Uganda, Burundi whilst they mine the minerals for nothing. Zambians be vigilant and wakeup we are in the 21 century. Why should chasing of 4000 whites from ZIM bring unrest to the region. Your brohers and sister are not even allowed entry in their terreritories. Remember slavery and thats consequeces. Why use your fellow brother for personal gain. The aim is make Mugabe fall by the end of the year.
Mugabe is a FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Period.
Iam neither pro politicans but I ask bloggers here most of you say Mugabe has run down the economy. Can you as well mention which policies he undertook to run down the economy. I want to hear your views and examples we need facts here not just blabla….so long ZIM is not a lending nation and cannot recieve Balance of Payment monies or loans the economy can not move. You can have anyother president once this sanctions are in place there is no light at the end of tunnel. I change the west to stop the sanctions and you will see ZIM economy improving.
Easy! Sorry, I was not referring to you. I was saying Bob being annoyed with LPM for talking to the west.
State pays Donegal International $10.5m
GOVERNMENT has paid US$10.5 million of the US$15.4 million its owes a London debt buyout firm, Donegal International.
The London firm won the case against the Zambian Government in the infamous Vulture Fund suit of US$55 million. The United Kingdom’s Royal Court of Justice ordered the Zambian Government to pay the money after reducing it significantly.
In an interview in Lusaka yesterday, Minister of Finance and National Planning, Ng’andu Magande, confirmed the payment.
“We are almost finishing paying Donegal International.
We have paid more than 50 per cent,†Mr Magande said.
Government would pay the full amount as soon as possible to avoid a seizure of its properties in London.
According to payment schedules obtained by the Daily Mail Government made the first payment of 575,000 Pounds in legal costs to Donegal, and followed it up with US$10 million soon after the order.
A total of US$5 million was the amount remaining to be paid in order to clear the debt.
Government was committed to paying the full amount to avoid seizure of its properties in London by Donegal International.
In April this year, the London court ruled that Zambia should pay US$15.4 million to Donegal International following the Vulture Fund suit.
In 1979, the Romanian Government lent Zambia money to buy Romanian tractors.
The Zambian Government was unable to keep up the payments and in 1999, Romania and Zambia negotiated to liquidate the debt for US$3 million, but before the debt could be finalised, Donegal International, which is partly owned by US-based Advisory International, stepped in and bought the debt from Romania for US$3 million.
The debt originally had a face value of US$15 million, but Donegal International claimed unpaid interest and other charges, raising the amount to US$55 million.
Zambia had paid back US$2 million, but Donegal International successfully sued the Zambian government on February 15, 2007, in the UK court.
[Daily Mail]
Gluco i get you. the problem is deep as many see it. just because whites are involved. news studies show that a new belt of copper from Zimbabwe thru zambia to Darfur has been discovered.Who will shed blood because of interest.
What is going on in Zimbabwe is UNACCEPTABLE and LPM is very correct in stating this fact.Stroking Mugabes’ ego is not putting food in my sister and brothers stomachs!!Zim is crumbling and that is a fact…something is not right and somebody has to have the courage to say it to Bob in his face!!Bob and his pretty young wife do not feel the suffering that is plain to see.He still has bread for breakfast,fruit after supper and his vehicles always have fuel!!Bob will be removed…an eventuality he cannot change whether he rants and raves at LPM or not!!His legacy will be a sad memory for many.What a waste of a beautiful country all becoz its’ leadership are selfish,arrogant and stubborn.Gule wa mukulu(13),with 17 degrees your man is in the record books as presiding over the only hyper inflationary economy in modern times…wow.. what a record to have!!! Bob is going..one way or another!!Zimbabweans just start looking for who you want next.I give Bob 2 years max!!
Easy here is a list of bad policies
1.Introducing price controls
2.Free wages
3.Print more money
4.Give land & industries to war veterans for nothing in exchange except political support
5.Have exchange control that only the elite have access to and so exploit the masses
Am sure others can add to this list. This is not a case of the West. There is an elite group that is benefiting in this situation. These guys are becoming millionaires in dollar terms by just doing currency trade in ZIM. Also the agric sector collapsed and ZIM only grows 10% of what it used to. Is that because of the West? Come on you don’t give things for free to people and expect them to be productive. Amin did this in the 70s..nice case study for Mugabe and it never worked. He should have known better
The fact is that Zimbabwe is now a Kingdom like Zambia was under Kaunda.
Bob had been dying to talk to LPM the way he did ever since the statement “the situation in one of the SADC states is like the sinking of the TITANIC’ from LPM. What’s worse is both LPM and Bob see China as the saviour. Ba Bob, mwilakwata umufimbila nomusha chinani wamusango uyu. LPM is RIGHT to every normal individual. Zim is sinking like the Titanic and this is unacceptable.
KK refused to greet Amin at an OAU meeting as a protest to the tyrant when every other African leader was josling in line to meet the Ugandan. This was way before Tanzania found a reason to topple big fat former boxer. I guess LPM’s actions are inline with KK’s stance on dictators dispite having been one himself.
#36 Chanda Phiri I see this is what your professor is teaching you in England. Anyway we dont want those boers come back and continue growing Tobacco which is a danger to health. In short you are the Zambian economy has improved because of the White farmers from ZIM. Open your eyes Mr.Phiri if you dont what is at stake dig dipper. Price control can not kill any economy in the EU prices are controlled you dont just work up increase them. After all Govts subsdies the prices of essential commodities. This is to enable everyone meet basic needs. You are talking of printing money as the cause of inflation yet you over look the DEFLATION of fuel and spare parts as major problems. This lies in the facts that ZIM has no access of foreign cash to buy on the international markets. Point 4. is the most disturbing one while in Zambia you are crying of empowerment of locals at the same time you condemm Bob for doing the same. #TOP advocating for anarchy for ZIM. You cannot start a fire you dont…
know how to stop it. Why dont you encourage Zimbabweans to do what we did to Kaunda and Ka Chiluba instead of inciting violence. Remember guys you have relatives in Southern region if war you to break out guest countries will be the first one to refuse entry of your sisters and brother seek for safety. Ask your congolese what they are undergoing up todate.
This reminds me of Morroco which invaded Western Sahara in 1984 but because they are pro west nothing has been taken against them.
LPM stands out from the rest. I have never regretted voting for him in the 2005 elections. My only regret is I did not vote for him in the 2000 elections. What a man. It takes integrity and courage to do what LPM did in that summit. We will surely miss him after 2011. A lot of you will disagree with me now and I wont be surprised but am a patient and accommodating person. I will wait for that time when you will be telling me that I was right. I did this when Mugabe was giving his war veterans land and many people said this will have no negative effect on the economy of Zimbabwe. But here I am. I’ve been vindicated. In separating men from boys, there was only one man in the just ended SADC summit, one very stupid boy and the rest were coward boys.
Easy I think you need a basic course in economics. I pay my maid peanuts because they are in abundance and if she turns down my peanuts, I can easily find another one and that is what keeps the cost of a maid down. There are many of them around. I pay my dentist a high premium because they are not too many of them around and that is what keeps the price high for them and encourages people to take up dentist and in the long term bring down the cost of dentist. You don’t ask the system to produce dentist only to pay them peanuts. You need the incentive of profits to create wealth.
Having subsidies in the west doesnt not make them right either. Infact, there is a lot of pressure to do away with them and I can guarantee they will be out in less than 10 yrs time.
By the way NO one is advocating that we go to war with ZIM. We are just asking for the show of some respect for our president from old Bob. Is that a sin??
Chuchu got what he deserve, he has sold zed to chinese and want to do the same with zim. Bob chikalipile chilishilu ico. Next time mudala Bob ukese nobwembya ukacikapule ubushilu bukafume.
#43 Chanda Phiri, you are advicatung for exploitating maids. Are they not humans like with same kind of stomach like you. That is unwarrant capitalism which has killed the world. You read the MDGs from UN to see what your economics has done to the world. You are one of the wrong Harvard university students who have mislead this world. You pay yourself huge salaries at the expense of suffering masses. My dear my basic economics are are applicable to every walk of life. Ba Chanda, be careful media reports you bad news sell good. I want to hear from the mouth of the affected our president. I have due respect of president and I critise him when dont feel he is doing the right thing. This is constructive and builds a good leader. These hearsay sentiments they bleed fire.
Robert Mugabe’s outbursts are such a great embarrassment to African politics. It shows how intoxicated he is with power and the desire to rule unceasingly.
The old man has become insane. Sikatana’s approach is the best to handle that lunatic on our Southern border.
I’m really hurt by his actions, May His Soul rest In Peace!!
Ba Easy(39&40),Bob has to go and he will and soon.The country has come to a standstill for the majority and only the elite are benefitting.Anarchy is inevitable and if Bob was clever he would see this and save what is left of his beloved Zim and move aside.KK called elections early becoz he knew it would impossible to govern and he hoped (foolishly i must admit)for a fresh mandate.But when he lost, he graciously submitted to the wishes of his people.KK & UNIP could have rigged the 1991 election and clung onto power like Bob has.
Let just all agree..Bobs time is up and a new leadership is needed.
##42 EasyE, Zambia had elections in 2006 not 2005. Why should we miss Mwanawasa after 2011 instead we have to buÃld on so that they will be no leadership vaccum.
#47 TOP I thought ZIM have election in March next year what is wrong. My only problem is if you are going to a puppet like FTJ Zimbabweans will even suffer more. Mama ifwe Zambians we endured. Our friends are running away instead of confronting Bob. TOP have ever experienced hunger but you still survive. Bob has to go but dont brings violence to the region. If this happens you will regreat I tell you. We need peace at all costs. TOP have you made your mind when you are retiring and pave way for the young ones.
Forget about Mugabe. When a person becomes old he behaviours like a kid. And kids are even much better. These are his last days. We will see where he will run to, since he does not want to listen to his fellow leaders. I am very annoyed. Let him go to hell with his Zimbabwe.
Which African country has ever sorted out problems in another African country?
#7 Born Rich how can Bob stop smoking Dobo when the person who taught him died long time ago.
Easy(49), i retire at 50….then i’ll learn how to play golf!!KK had to go…..there was no violence..lets pray Zim have a similar experience.We made a mistake with FTJ after KK…..the people of Zim have learnt from that that is why MDC have no hope in hell should a credible candidate rise up to the challenge.Tsvangari and FTJ are the same!!! The people in Zim are not dim !! ( quite a rhyme there !!)
we are all sadnened by what is happening in Zimbabwe. Levy as chairman should have first met with Mugabe privately to talk to him. He should also have talked to Mbeki & hear how far he had gone in his diplomacy with Mugabe. After all, Levy went to meet some other leaders before the summit. While the situation in Zim is ‘unacceptable’, Levy should have not used such a word. He should have known that no progresss was going to be made by discussing the zim issue publicly. You don’t help a person like Mugabe by discussing his problems in a public summit. The summit only needed to hear a report from Mbeki (& maybe from Mugabe himself). Levy should have suggested for few leaders to discuss the matter privately & then come up with some possible steps to take after the summit. Levy should not have met with Western intelligence over Zim. MDC’s leader made a similar mistake & made comments of plans to assasinate Mugabe without knowing that he was being taped. I saw the interview on SBS.
Yesterday, Bush met privately to talk to the Australian opposition leader, Kevin Rudd who had called him as the most incopentent leader the world has ever known. Rudd made such a comment at the start of the Iraq war- before he became the opposition leader last year. Rudd might become Australia’s next prime minister before this year ends. And though Bush publicly supports John Howard for supporting him in the Iraq war, courtessy called for Bush to meet with Rudd privately & iron out their differencies over the Iraq issue at the on going APEC summit in Sydney. This is how you resolve issues with other leaders whom you don’t agree with on critical issues. Truth has to be shared with grace.
It was cowardice of field marshal Idi Ami Dada Chuchu Alibembezelu Patrick SC, to talk of sinking titanic in another country instead of confronting ba Bob. Yes he deserved those showers of partial amalumbo from ba Bob. Abena Dada got a wrong advice from a finished liar betrayer Mudia Sikata on how to deal with ba Bob but the ramification from ba Bob was harsh which sent ka Mudia on over due retirement crept on medical grounds which was true; Mudia is sick in the head and needs to see Dr Sondashi for roots and shoots. Field marshal Idi Ami Dada Chuchu Alibembezelu Patrick SC sometimes lacks diplomacy when he dealing with pipo like ba Bob and hardly differentiate the toasts of his ministers.
Ba original SAGE, Chapi, Easy, Cyber-USA, AM, nalaboma pazed next week and I will come and uproot MMD cadres who are impersonating others pipo’s IDs.
OFF AIR Ba Joze
#33
We are made to pay that kaloba while culprits like Fisho Mwale, Jack Chilupe, Stella Chibanda, Chizyuka and co are flashing endless plastics smiles. You wait, the time will come when you will agree that the case can get mold but never rot. That money would have been used to improve the infrastructures in the country and up lift the welfare of zed pipo. It hurts to see these chaps free xxxx
Most bloggers here are serious hangers on with no ambition of ever owning anything original from Africa. Give me a name of a black Zambian or Zimbabwean who owns 3 hectares of land either in Europe or any other continent other than Africa. Most Africans will remain foolishly poor because the majority don’t value assets like land.
If LPM enjoys bootlicking the west, he should do it whole-heartedly himself and not drag all Africans and indeed Zambians in his endeavours.
Viva Mugabe, Viva Gideon Gono (Governor Central Bank Of Zimbabwe) and abash collaborators.
Whether you like it or not Bob Mugabe is in trouble. kuya bebele. It is just a matter of time. What has Zambia to lose, we should just pull a plug openly and condemn Mugabe
The curse of Africa lies in people like HK and LPM, they don’t believe in themselves therefore they connive with other people to destroy fellow Africans.
HK you are right Mugabe maybe going down BUT NOT WITHOUT A SERIOUS FIGHT. But even LPM is leaving office in 2011 and after that prosecutions start to continue for another 10 years. Next year there will be elections in Zimbabwe where I am sure the land issue will be so prominent.
Viva Mugabe, Viva Msiska, Viva Mujuru, Viva Gideon Gono.
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Gule Wa Mukulu: Mugabe may look like is a shining light to Africa, but in real sense he is a curse and sellout. Mugabe, has sold out his country, his soul and now he is going down fighting:…Fighting for who?.. I guess for himself..certainly not the ZIM africans.. The prayers should be that Mugabe dies and things come back to normal. The longer Mugabe lives, the more ZIM will sink beyond recognition. The impereialist he is pushing out will now come back with full strength and huge concessions. I thought ZIM could have learnt what happened to Zambia
Dr. HK out of habernation elyo kuya bebele hahaha you make me laugh you remind me of my schools days. This freeze was commonly used. HK dont habernate you make the blow live. Ngugi and Kuku are the remaining ones here to come back. HK pilz find a motor for Bob like for KK V- wipuba wibili. For Bob its will a bit difficult because he has two vice presidents. Anyone who plans to end someone life should get life imprisonment because he danger to society.
#61 why do you want to know? Go away you are M15 or CIA.
The issue with Mugabe is not who is going to stand up to him outside his nation. But who is going to help him outside his nation. We condemn the way blood was shed to get land by both colonial masters & the Mugabe regime. However, land is a very sensitive issue in many places like Israel or among the Aboriginals in Australia. Most Aboriginals would rather live in primitive conditions for the sake of land. Most Israelis too would rather disobey some current UN dictates for the sake of protecting their land which God gave them. Many peace envoys have been sent to the middle east, but they know they cant win without first talking privately to the Israelis before talking to the Palestinians. Mugabe will soon be gone, but he is not alone. The land issue will continue unless if it is addressed properly. Perhaps it is high time that Levy appointed kk (like Blair to the ME)as a special envoy to zim on the land issue so that Mbeki can have an extra leader that Mugabe respects to help them
We need a USA military base in zed.The benefits are huge, economically, militarily…
Mugabe is finished,someone should do something in Zimbabwe.
ba easy cilishani? bushe efyo mupokelela abeni?
HK, people should not pray for Mugabe to die. Jesus said that we should pray for our enemies (Matthew 5& 6). I hate to see people suffer like the way they are suffering in Zim. On the other hand, development has always come where people have suffered. Suffering can give wisdom.East Asia is a good example. I believe Zim will rise up & may surpass us in Zm again. In fact, apart from food, Zim is far aheard of us in many areas. Zimbabweans have businesses in other nations like RSA & Zambia & I am yet to hear of Zambian businesses in other countries. If someone has information on Zambian businesses overseas that are doing well, I would appreciate to know. Back to the Mugabe -Levy issue, it will not be a bad idea for Levy since he apologised that he ‘did not mean to say that…’ to follow up his words with an apology letter. He will help Mugabe with humility and humility is a mark of a true leader even when you’re not wrong. Mugabe is a hurting man & he needs help from wise leaders.
Visionary, there is no need for Chuchu to apologise any further..I am disgusted for his chamber apology already and no further action required.
I hope this diss will strengthen Chuchu to formulate a policy to rip maximum benefit from ZIM fallout. Let us fasten the development of Livingstone and take away ZIM tourist.
Let us attract all business investment which is being squizzed out of ZIM to set up in Zed and start exporing to ZIM
We can even poach their lecturers to fill our Universities.
Viva Mugabe, Levy grow up and clean up yo own situations in Zed. Zimbabwe will one day come clean.
Mugabe and Zimbabwe has been spying on Mwanawasa and Zambia. How did he know Chuchu met with Western Intelligence agency discussing him..Bashushu ba pa Blog mwilanwa fye ubwalo ku Chamba valle, what do u have to say to this statement
“Mugabe also said he was aware of Mwanawasa’s recent meetings with western intelligence agencies on Zimbabwe”
Ba Visionary(68),in the midst of battle your contributions are rather soothing!!Your suggestion of “quiet” diplomacy has its merits.On the other hand that is the problem with African style diplomacy.It is in our culture to “show” fools respect in public as is it common to extol a thief at his graveside.I’ve seen no benefit in either.Mugabe probably thinks what he is doing is right but the majority can see the true picture he hides away from.Mugabe is as good as gone,its just a matter of time irrespective of what his supporters say.Not all he has done has been wrong but the way he has done some of it is what has plunged his country into chaos.Gule wa mukulu(60)extols Gono,i suppose the car he imported(using state funds) amidst national economic ruin was ok!With regard to Zambian businesses overseas: an new type of businessman now exists in Zambia,one who shies away from publicity!You’ll be pleasantly surprised at how many are doing well and still find time to contribute LT occasionally!
# Kemps Mwape Mwelwa, ati shani we chana. LPM is not my favourite but on this score, he called a spade a spade. No amount of diplomacy will work with Gabby if he himself has not been diplomatic in handling issues in his country.Leaders cannot go on treating their people badly with impunity.Gabby should know better that he serves the people of Zim and not vice-versa.Nobody cares about whether he was a freedomm fighter or not. For all I care he has turned his people into present and future economic freedom fighters.When are these leaders going to learn to leave at the right time?
May i ask, what is wrong with discussing Zims situation with the intelligence community?We have to be wary of any potential spillovers of violence or civil war and as such we must be prepared.Zim has two major tribal groupings and succession disputes are a potential threat to our own national security,Zim being a neighbour.We are trying to develop L/Stone and any violence could derail on going efforts.Tourism will suffer in Zambia if there is war in Zim. As we diversify national income sources the govt is duty bound to anticipate any threat to the ongoing efforts.Comrades,don’t think it an impossibility that our own armed forces may be drawn into any internal strife in Zim.If we support the wrong side or are unprepared..kiss Kafue Gorge power station goodbye!God forbid should this happen,our entire economy will stagnate and investors will flee or withold any further committments.Zambians let us be alert to ANY potential threat to our peace and stability!!!
Mugabe you have a point.BUT ITS TIME TO THROW IN THE TOWER.THINK ABOUT YOUR PEOPLE,MWANAWASA KEEP ADVICES THIS MAN.I UNDERSTAND WHERE HIS COMING FROM,BUT YOUR PLAYING WITH BIG FISH AND YOUR DOWN ON YOUR KNESS.ZIM WILL NEVER PICK UP AGAIN.LEAVE IT,ENJOY YOUR LAST DAYS
Good job LPM for confronting Mugabe on the Zim problems but a little diplomacy could have been more effective.Remember you`re a president and not a prosecutor before a judge in a court room.Fellow bloggers,are the concerns Mugabe raised that LPM is selling ZED out geniune or is it just soar grapes?
Ba Chapi(76),if getting people to invest in your country to create industry and employment is selling out…then so be it!!We are not the ones lining up for 1 week for petrol and our shopkeepers don’t change prices every 2 hours!!Bob is vexed becoz we have given the white farmers sanctuary and our food production is on the up!Bob is senile and deserves a rest.His presence and performance in regional politics is like Stallone in Rocky Balboa !Despite all his fighting spirit, upper cuts,body shots and ability to take punishment…he still lost!!! Rocky and Bob are showing the same fighting style and the result will be the same!! Sour grapes indeed ba Bob!!Ba Chipimo was right about leaders and bullets !
Well I think LPM asked for it. He is on record as having said Zim is a ‘sinking titanic’ without really knowing the meaning of what he said. Then goes on to confront and embarass Mugabe in the presence of other leaders. He should have asked him early in private what his feeling would be if the ‘issue of Zim’ was to be discussed.
LPM portrayed a high level of diplomatic incompetence for a president him to act like that. He can not for God’s sake make himself a name in Western Countries’ media by being so talkative. He should realise that the West will today use hime but tomorrow they will dump him. They are just visitors, whereas Zimbabweans are our neighbours for ever.
What a shame for LPM!!
LPM can not solve ZIM problems when he has not solved his. He has sold FJT and many others. He has no backborn of his.
These problems are not of Mugabes making. No person would like to see his fellow countrymen suffer and i don’t think Rob is one of them.
When LPM is advised by the likes of super Ken he reacts. Doe he have answers to all problems countrymen?
LPM can not solve ZIM problems when he has not solved his. He has sold FJT and many others. He has no backborn of his.
These problems are not of Mugabes making. No person would like to see his fellow countrymen suffer and i don’t think Rob is one of them.
When LPM is advised by the likes of super Ken he reacts. Does he have answers to all problems countrymen?
ANA. chiluba sold his loins by stealing from Zambia coffers with impunity. Mwanawasa did not send Chiluba to steal, it was his own desire for Bling Blings. Bob Mugabe on the other side is a lunatic who by far was only useful to the Western Regimes till they turned aginst him. Mugabe was happy to wallow in Europen confered degrees…And after his Luxury was taken away, he turns against his puppeteers and grab land in a hazardas way. Come on, mugabe here is a problem not a Solution. Take out Mugabe+Continue land re-distribution is the Solution for Zimbabwe.
Lets keep I think SADCCleaders should stop tap dancing around the Zim issue and call a spade a spade Mugabe is destroying Zim and it is obvious that he is not ready compramise because that is what is needed here he has to compramise in his situation. For that matter I’am deeply disapointed over his reaction to our President’s attempt to bring the matter to the fore, he does not care what he dose to prove that he is Mr Big he does not cue up for anything so the pain is not in his house. I think his hour has come and he must leave the presidency to younger Zims. After all Zambia suffered greatly for the freedom struggle of Zim we are to a great extent in our current economic situation because we cared and we sacreficed for our Neighbours and Mugabe has the gull to insult us like that he should just resign, en how his time is coming soon and history will jugde him severly from liberator to tyrant I’am greatly disappoited with his childish behaviour. As for LPM n CIA I would’nt believe it.
It was suposed to be lets keep thing in perspective, over the issue of the CIA I’am sure that it if at all they did meet with LPM he is not the only one for that matter we should relise that alot of money was spent for the freedom stuggle from our own resourses for the freedom of not only Zim but RSA and Nam was it all for nothing we have a vested interest to see Zim prosper. When one think about just as the region is begining to stablise Mugabe takes wiff of some dobo and he completly flips, from his excappade in the DRC to what is going on in Zim, Africa Africa were are we going one is led to ask we can only pray for Gods intervention in the matter. May his will be done.
The issue here is that Mugabe was castrated by the British Gov’t so it’s a personal issue for Mugabe. It is better for Prez Mwanawasa to stayout of this issue before he brings war to Zambia. Zim’s military is far better than zed’s military plus zim’s army has too much experience in warfare. Examples of this include the guerrilla warfare against the white gov’t in zim, the civil war and of course the intervention in Congo DR. Like someone had posted earlier, Zim was born out of the burrow of a gun. The British are a serious problem, look at how they have been defeated in Basra, just one province of Iraq but the still insist that the ‘pullout’ of central Basra was not a sign of defeat when we know that they have once again been defeated just like they have been defeated in Zimbabwe. Prez Mwanawasa just let Super Ken (KK) deal with this issue, he has the skills, experience and support to come up with a logical solution.
Bob is the biggest sell out, how did he know that Levy met western Intelligence agents?
Mugabe wouldn’t have reacted like that if he didn’t know about LPM’s meeting with western intelligence. if that’s true, then, who does he think he is, a sell out?
‘Abakuchipata’ in mpika killed 4 babies as they fought to get mosquito nets.The nets were meant for the children!
Four children crashed to death
Four children died instantly, Wednesday when a wall fell on them after a stampede that ensued
during the distribution of free mosquitoe nets in the Northern Province district of Mpika.
Both Mpika Central Member of parliament, Mwansa Kapeya and District Health Centre Specialist, Dr. Isaac Mulenga have confirmed the incident which happened at in Chitulika Village.
Mr. Kapeya said the four children were crashed to death after those who registered and others
who did not jostled to be given the free mosquitoe nets.
He said six elderly women suffered multiple injuries in the stampede.
The six are admitted to Mpika Health Centre.
Mr. Kapeya said police are investigating the cause of the accident.
chitulika village!
It is not a great mystery how Mugabe knew that Western Intelligence was at play. Don’t forget that in the days leading up to the SADC summit, a very senior and highly trained zim police officer was found dead with gunshots in a hotel room in Lusaka. When the chief inspector of Zambian police, a Mr. Mateyo gave a public statement, he said the super zim cop died of natural causes. The Post news paper turned around and gave another story which suggested that the supper zim cop was actually killed by a prostitute using the zim cop’s gun after he refused to pay her for her sexual services to him. Obviously everyone knew that both stories were false and it could only mean one thing, western intelligence trying to make an attempt on Mugabe on Zambian soil with the collaboration of no other than LPM.
Chuchu is just about ripe for Impeachment. The man needs to step down for the sake of Zambia’s national security!
all of you commenting on LPM being involved with CIA/MI5 or whichever intelligence service of your imagination please read contribution #74.it would be interesting to read what your comments will be thereafter!!
LPM needs to understand that Chimurenga war for the independence of Southern Rhodesian began in 1964 to 1979. The Republic of Zimbabwe was born officially in April 1980. This was 15 years of struggle that LPM and the Mundia Sikatana are trying to cheapen.
Some of the luminaries and leaders of ZANU of the struggle were Herbert Chitepo, Josiah Tongogara and Joshua Nkomo who founded ZAPU. These men are dead but their dream of Zimbabwe still goes on. If KK heard that LPM is betraying fellow African leaders, he would hang his head in shame.
A wise man ought to take advice. Mugabe’s storming out at the suggestion of a discussion was immature and needs to be condemned. Thanks to Tabo for trying,but deaf Mugabe needed to be poked to heed.
If we get so paranoid about Zim and say we can never advise,then what kind of neighbours are we? Mandela tried to advise this self intelligent chap,i hope levys attempt teaches him something. My prediction is he will get even more arrogant….Sorry Zimbabweans, you will be dying of hunger till you get rid of Mugabe.
Gule wa mkulu, ndiwe ogontha ngati mzako Mugabe, mbalule ilila ukanga bwanji uvina nanga?
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Its like you have run of ideas and strategy. You have resorted to impersonating Veteran now? looking at your IP i refuse to embarrass you. I personally known Veteran. He has never been here since he left. He been in Japan two days he quite LT and so far there has never been any Japanise IP. Fortunately i can see and track IPs from the USA in dominance, a few from Ausies, the UK, Canada and one or so Zambian. We respect your privacy but impersonating someone thousands miles away on other priority undertaking is foolish and self defeating. Vetaran has never been on this blog since departure.
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Matters of intelligence nature can never be posted anywhere under impersonation because they receive serious trails by the intelligence external services community.That trail can never ever be erased. At their discretion the intelligence can get to the framing impersonator with stunning easy anywhere in the World. And the consequences are Gravely painful upto rendition for long term extraction process. Play with politics but not peddle on matters of security intelligence. That is field for men of life time challenges most of us are no fits.
OIL, GAS DISCOVERED IN ZAMBIA, MINING MINISTER MWANSA ANNOUNCES
Oil and gas had been discovered in Zambia and tenders were being prepared for further exploration, the Zambian Mines Minister Kalombo Mwansa announced in Perth on Friday.
Mwansa told the Africa Downunder conference that initial exploration undertaken by Zambia’s mining ministry in the North Western province had revealed the presence of oil and gas.
The samples extracted had been found to contain oil and gas and these had then been sent to Germany for confirmation using special technology.
“I can inform the audience that this particular technology has confirmed our initial finding of oil and gas in the country,†Mwansa said.
“At the moment, we are doing the right things first before we can start exploiting this resource. What we are doing first is to look at legislation that is available in terms of this resource and updating this legislation,†he said.
Thereafter, the country would also examine the legal and institutional mechanism and base it on international practices and experience.
“But I am happy to say that tender documents are being prepared and we hope that we will be able to invite applications for companies to do further exploration work to determine the depth of the material and the size of the wells,†he said.
Mwansa said that there was room for greater minerals discovery in Zambia because only 55% of the country had been geologically mapped and 45% of the country had still to be surveyed.
The ministry was carrying out further exploration in areas of further potential where there was potential for large-scale mining based on the initial finding reported.
‘My ministry has also despatched a team to the western and eastern parts of Zambia to assess the presence of oil and gas in those two areas,†he said.
A new computerised cadaster was also being established and would be operational at the start of 2008.
ZAMBIA FINALISES POLICY TO ENCOURAGE LOCAL OWNERSHIP
Zambia has finalised the drafting of a new mining policy that will empower Zambians to own shares in mining firms.
This was announced by Mines Minister Kalombo Mwansa during a consultative workshop on the revision of the Mines and Minerals Act.
The policy will empower many Zambians to have stakes in large-scale mining operations.
It calls for the private sector, through public–private partnership, to play a bigger role in contributing to the country’s gross domestic product.
Mwansa also called for the estab- lishment of an appeals tribunal to facilitate the resolution of disputes that may arise over mining rights.
The final draft of the revised mineral resources development policy is ready for Cabinet approval.
ZAMBIA MAY SEEK TO ALIGN ROYALTY TO COPPER PRICES
The Zambian government is looking for experts to advise it on the modalities of renegotiating agreements reached with mining companies, in order to gain more revenues from the booming mining sector.
Mines Minister Kalombo Mwansa says the discussions should start in October.
He says government has already met all the CEOs of the mining companies to make them aware of this development.
Trade unions, the business sector and donor organisations like the World Bank have been calling on government to renegotiate the deals. Against this background, government is confident that the process will not erode investor confidence.
And Mopani Copper Mines CEO Tim Henderson says most mining companies are willing to renegotiate the agreements, but prefer to deal with the same government advisers they dealt with when the Zambian mining sector was privatised.
According to Zambian press reports, he urges government to link any changes in mineral royalties to copper prices on the inter- national market because mining firms make less money when copper prices decline. However, he urges government to exercise caution during the process, as Zambia is not the only country competing for investors.
ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT TO NEGOTIATE PROPOSED MINE TAX INCREASES
Zambian President Levy Mwanawasa will personally negotiate proposed tax increases in mineral royalty and corporate taxes with foreign copper mining firms, reports news agency Reuters.
Mwanawasa said he would meet CEOs of key foreign copper and cobalt mining firms to discuss the proposed hike of the mineral royalty to 3% from 0,6% and corporate tax to 30% from 25%.
The Zambia News and Information Services (Zanis) said Mwanawasa had invited the mine managers to his official residence to discuss the tax increments, but did not indicate when this meeting would take place.
Zanis said that the mining firms already pay value added tax, personal income tax for workers, and land tax to municipal councils.
“Mr Mwanawasa said so far, the mining firms had in principle agreed with the government’s intention to increase mining royalties,†Zanis said.
In a separate statement Finance Minister Ng’andu Magande said the mining firms had declared an aggregate profit of $397,3-million in the 2005/06 financial year, after making losses of $43,2-million in the 2002/03 financial year.
Analysts attribute the jumps to rising international metal prices and a more than doubling in Zambia’s output of copper, the country’s main export, over the same period.
Magande said the government would audit earnings of the mining firms to determine tax requirements.
“It is important to note that there is a process in place that is diligently observed to ensure that tax audits are conducted to verify the profits declared by mining companies, Magande said.
Some of the key foreign investors in Zambia’s mining sector include Canada’s First Quantum Minerals, Australia’s Equinox Minerals, London listed Vedanta Resources, and Swiss firm Glencore International AG.
Copper mining earns Zambia the bulk of foreign exchange, but analysts say the country does not reap enough benefits because foreign companies own the mines.
The proposed increase of the mineral royalty tax came almost six months after an International Monetary Fund (IMF) report urged the Zambian government to review concession agreements and tax holiday arrangements signed with some mining firms, in order to generate more resources for development.
Earlier in the year IMF country representative to Zambia Birgir Aranson said that the concessions mining investors enjoyed were not helping the country to generate resources for development. He also said there was a need for government to broaden the tax base in order for the country to have enough resources to channel its social programmes.
The Zambian government has been in support of proposals to revise concessions currently enjoyed by mining companies.
In December 2006 speculation had started about the minerals tax increase, Mines and Mineral Development Minster Kalambo Mwansa said that a new minerals royalty tax to be introduced in the Southern African country was expected to be pegged at 2,5% up from the current 0,6%.
Mwansa went on to add that the current royalty was unrealistic, considering that 3% was the average royalty paid worldwide and the big profits made by mining companies.
However, there was some caution from certain sectors of the government regarding the increase.
In an earlier statement, the Zambian chamber of mines GM Fredrick Bantubonse said, “the government should take into account the taxes the mining companies are paying and the profits they are making because some have not even started reaping from their investments.†He added that caution needed to be exercised because, if investors lost confidence in the Zambian mining industry, it will be difficult to woo them back.
In a recent report done by the IMF, an overview of how certain policies would affect the Zambian economy was given.
In October and November 2006, an IMF mission led by Mr Francesco Caramazza visited Zambia for discussions on the fifth review of the country’s three year economic growth programme supported by the IMF’s Poverty Reduction and Growth Facility. The mission reviewed economic and financial developments for the remainder of the 2006 year and the beginning of the 2007 year. The mission also met with representatives of the private sector, civil society, and Zambia’s cooperating partners.
The IMF reports that the Zambian economy continues to perform well.
Strengthened macro economic policies and a favourable external environment have been major factors behind the improved performance of the economy in recent years. Annual real gross domestic product (GDP) growth exceeded 5% for the third consecutive year in 2005 and was expected to increase to 6% in 2006, IMF reports that the expectation was led by solid expansions in the mining and construction sectors and a strong recovery in agriculture.
Inflation was at around 8% it’s lowest in three decades. The renaissance of the copper sector and extensive debt relief have markedly strengthened the economy’s prospects, both of which contributed to a substantial appreciation for the Kwacha.
According to the IMF the stance of fiscal policy has remained appropriately prudent, but budget execution needs to be further strengthened. In particular to minimise the carryover of unspent balances from one year to the next. Monetary expansion has been faster than programmed in recent months and corrective action was taken to meet end year targets. In 2007, and in subsequent years, tax revenue is expected to be boosted so as to contain government’s domestic borrowing while providing scope for interested spending on infrastructure and social programmes to meet the national development goals. The authorities already initiated a comprehensive review of the tax system with the aim of broadening the tax base, improving the efficiency and equity of the tax system, and improving compliance and effectiveness of tax administration.
The IMF adds that looking ahead, economic prospects are favourable. Bolstered by sizable investments, particularly in mining and manufacturing, and by residential construction, real GDP is projected to grow at about 6% a year over the medium term. Depending on the quality and the extent of the implementation of the Fifth National Development Plan, economic growth could strengthen further and subsequintly raise living standards at a quicker pace. Sustaining robust growth, making more effective use of public resources, undertaking the improvements in infrastructure, and the financial private sector reforms which are essential to enhance productivity and competitiveness.
KCM TO AWARD CONTRACTS FOR SMELTER EXPANSION
ambia’s largest mining and metals company Konkola Copper Mines (KCM), a subsidiary of Vedanta Resources, over the weekend called for expressions of interest for the construction of slag granulation, coal distribution and concentrate injection systems at its smelter, located at Nkana, Zambia.
KCM is undertaking significant expansion in its mining, smelting and refining capacity, in line with Vedanta’s vision of becoming a global leader in nonferrous metals business.
Vedanta Resources has interests in copper, aluminum, zinc, silver and lead, with operations in India, Australia and Zambia.
KCM has two underground mines, one openpit mine, one tailing leach plant and one smelter/acid plant complex. The smelter, located at Nkana, has a capacity to produce 150 000 t/y of copper.
The company called for expressions of interest in various projects at the Nkana smelter, including the design, engineering, fabrication, supply, installation and commissioning of the slag granulation system to granulate 1 200 t/d of slag.
The granulated slag would be skimmed from a reverberatory furnace, granulated, dewatered and loaded into storage bins for transport to the slag dump.
In addition to the pulverised coal distribution system for feeding 300 t/d of coal to various furnaces, expressions of interest were also called for for a dense phase concentrate injection system into the Teniente reactor, to increase the concentrate feed system from 800 t/d to 1 400 t/d.
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It is not a crime to discuss information that is already in the public domain in an open and democratic way. As Dr. Chiluba would say, “that’s the beauty of democracyâ€. When you finish reading this, look out your window and tell me what you see?
Impersonating others is not good. There are lots of names to use. When I started, I used two names because this system did not allow me to post more than one posting. This has now changed. As for Mugabe, he will not change by being confronted in a public summit. Levy himself gets annoyed when KK comments on GRZ mistakes. Powerful Western coutries have stood against Bob publicly; but he has not changed. If he can’t listen to the West, he will not listen to Levy confronting him publicly. Now, just as America is now saying that only the Iraqi’s (with outside help)have the key for a better Iraq, in the same way, only Zimbabweans (with outside wise help)have the key to fully resolve their differences. Some parts of Iraq which were the safe haven for the insurgency are now getting peaceful because current American commanders have realised that they need to dialogue with the tribal elders whom they never wanted to deal with. KK has his weaknesses, but let Levy use him to deal with Mugabe.
The oil & gas discovery is good news for Zambia. Let’s hope that it will benefit all Zambians. Let’s hope unza & cbu will develop some cheap gas stoves to allow all our people to do most of their cooking on gas stoves instead of charcol which is depleting our forests. For some reason, Zambia seems to be like a country that is cursed. We are not like other African countries which have suffered war after independence. Yet our nation with its much resources seems like a nation that is recovering from raveges of war. I read that we are losing $7 billion dollars a year from the precious stones industry. Without corruption, this money could have helped us to wife off our debt without relying much on having our debt cancelled under harsh economical pills. May God help us to be delievered from any economical curse that our corrupt politicians have put on us for years.
Worst order Dictatorship muchilonganino chesu
PF IS ON ITS WAY TO CALVARY – MSISKA
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) is on its way to Calvary because of Michael Sata’s dictatorship, former Lusaka deputy mayor Charles Msiska charged yesterday as he resigned from PF.
And PF councillors complained that they were compelled to vote for Stephen Chilatu as mayor because of intimidation from the top party leadership on Thursday night.
Earlier, PF spokesperson Given Lubinda also warned that PF would trace defiant councillors who voted for Msiska and take disciplinary action against them. “Lubinda was busy calling councillors at about midnight threatening that should any councillor defy the party directives to vote for Chilatu, they will be expelled. So we actually voted under coercion. It was not our wish to vote for Chilatu, we just had no option,†the source said. “The truth is that the elections were not free and fair. There is too much dictatorship in PF.â€
The source said as a result of these threats, PF councillors decided to work on a strategy on how to defeat Sata and his colleagues in the top leadership.
#105 Visionary, I agree with you in all your postings you have done about this issue. Patience really pays. Acting out of impulse is not good. It is better to take some time and reflect on issues before reacting. Whatever the case was in the closed door meeting during SADC summit, time is not yet conducive to conclude and map up a strategy. This needs time to seriously think about it and read between the lines of what the media reported vigilantly and do some research in detail before suggesting the way forward. I wish to stand out on this blog and humbly acknowledge your advice (Visionary). Others with their advice appear like people who could have manhandled Zimbabwean president there and then. Zimbabwe should give Zambia credit and even set up a committee which can assess damages in Zambia so that they can start paying back financially the destruction Zambia suffered prior to Zimbabwe’s independence in the hands of Zimbabwean freedom fighters. After having sacrificed our resources like that in order to ensure that independence is achieved in Zimbabwe, is this all we can expect from His Excellency Robert Mugabe as a price of insulting all of us. That attack meant who do we think we are as Zambians. Not his Excellency Levy Patrick Mwanawasa alone; NO. Whether you are in Diaspora or in Zambia that is how Mugabe reduced you and me, indicating that we are nothing. Where do you get the audacity then to support him? I will bore you further by citing an example. If you found your father fighting with someone with your due knowledge of what the fight is all about can you say let your father be beaten. Challenge me. All I know is that you could even throw punches to the opponent beyond what your father could have done. Do not be fooled that Zimbabwe has no means of having a forum like Lusaka Times. I doubt them despite the problems that they are facing that they would denounce their president like some of us would like to do over LPM on this Lusaka Times. Zimbabweans particularly shonas (Zezulus) where Mugabe emanates will never appreciate no matter how much you assist them. Ndebeles are much better of where the late Nkhomo who fought from the Zambian soil during the Rhodesia war emanated from. Mugabe fought from the Mozambiquen frontier but before then he was in Zambia. Unfortunately the Ndebeles are the minority in Zimbabwe otherwise Mugabe could not have even gotten to the throne if they were the majority.
#107 Did you meet Kuku per arrangement? You guys we need to team up an thrash the thugs out of politics they are a danger to our beloved nation. Look at Mabenga, he was asking who Prof. Chirwa? This is madness. Nkataboy, you have reminded me of something very important. Days after the SADC meeting LPM made a media statement that the ZIM problem was not like the way it has been reported. Is it real true that this kind of confrontation between Bob and LPM happened. I now realise why Sikatan was fired, its because of telling lies and misleading the leadership. You can remember the story of the need for a lozi president on 2011 all this have waken me and Iam now draging my feets over this issue. Who link this information to the media when the meeting was a closed door one. Attempts distablise the region has failed so some pipo look for a way of achieving this yet the recent turn of events more visitors from the west, more crucks accessing our resources, remember peace is a key to develop..
Gentlemen who is the owner of this Toshiba 61 colour television set, serial number 69140018, model No PJ 98 B that Regina stall or had stollen? How were the chaarges before the Ndola High court? What difference is there? I want to know the complainant in this case. Amazing is what business is Regina doing to bring her cash of K474, 000,00 per day. I dont know of any company making $80, 000 per month. Who is the owner of the motor vehicle Isuzu KB, registration number AAT 2603? What properties are stand number NDO/14 purchased at US$80,000, stand number KIT/643 purchased at US$48,000 cash, stand number KIT/645, purchased at US$60,000 cash?
hallo
Zimbabwe devalues currency by 11,900%
By Kingsley Kaswende in Harare
Saturday September 08, 2007 [03:00] Print Article Email Article
Zimbabwe has devalued its currency by 11,900 per cent with immediate effect.
Finance minister Dr Samuel Mumbengegwi announced the devaluation on Thursday afternoon while presenting the mid-term fiscal policy review and supplementary budget that is six times more than the entire 2007 national budget.
The major focus of the supplementary budget which maps out the survival strategies for the depressed economy for the remainder of the year, is increasing revenue generation and support to economic and social sectors as well as attempting to reduce inflation and avail foreign currency.
The new move has seen the abandonment of the largely unrealistic two-tier official exchange rates of US $250 and US $15,000 per US dollar, replacing them with the exchange rate of US $30,000.
The two official exchange rates have largely been shunned by many Zimbabwean
Mugabe Had Tantrum At SADC Meeting
SW Radio Africa (London)
7 September 2007
Posted to the web 7 September 2007
Tererai Karimakwenda
Despite efforts by South Africa’s President Thabo Mbeki to gag SADC leaders
and Zimbabwe’s negotiating political parties, more information has been
revealed about what really transpired at the SADC summit that took place in
Lusaka last month. The heads of state were all smiles when they took a group
photo on the last day, but Robert Mugabe had allegedly stormed out of a
closed session earlier after a heated exchange with Zambian President Levy
Mwanawasa.
The revelations are significant because they show that there are divisions
within SADC, contrary to assertions by Mbeki and other heads of state.
Mbeki’s behaviour is also shown to be supportive of Mugabe, giving credence
to reports that he is not suitable as a mediator on the Zimbabwe crisis.
Reports say Mwanawasa had suggested the Zimbabwe crisis be discussed as the
situation was “unacceptable”. Tanzanian President Jakaya Kikwete responded
by saying there was no need to deal with the Zimbabwe issue while the SADC
initiated talks were still in progress. Mbeki is reported to have agreed
with this, effectively siding with Mugabe. Kikwete then made the mistake of
suggesting that Mugabe be given an opportunity to comment on Mwanawasa’s
suggestion.
The story goes that Mugabe launched into an angry tirade at Mwanawasa,
saying he was aware the Zambian leader had held recent meetings with
‘western intelligence agencies’ about Zimbabwe. He also accused Mwanawasa of
selling out his country. He said he would not allow Mwanawasa to sell out
Zimbabwe the way he had sold off Zambian assets. Mugabe was so angry that at
one point he is quoted as saying: “Who are you Mwanawasa? Who are you? Who
do you think you are?” before storming out and leaving.
Journalists who attended the SADC meeting say they heard that Mwanawasa had
apologized and kept pleading with Mugabe to understand that he had not meant
anything negative. He is quoted as saying: “Mr President I didn’t mean to
say that, you misunderstood me. Mr President that was not my intention.”
Journalist Valentine Maponga was at the final press conference when the
Zambian leader, who is the new SADC chairman, was asked why Mugabe had left
early. Maponga said Mwanawasa joked that Mugabe needed to rest since he was
older. But information about Mugabe’s tirade was already making the rounds.
112, reflects a more sober perspective of the same story above. Zimbabweans have more respect for Levy than an average Zambian.
Easy#109,if you need answers to your questions,go to article “Regina rearrested”.Read what the bloggers wrote.
H108 Easy,
No, I have not yet met Kuku. Once I do so I will inform you. I have not met Ba Jose as well. Because of this background, I doubt very much the person who is posting the bloggin in his name.It is not as close as Ba Jose’s way of blogging. If it was Ba Jose, everyone would have been laughing wherever we are over this topic.
nkhataboy (107), thanks for your thoughts. I have great respect for Levy as our leader. When I dissagree with his actions, I do not do it out of desrespect. Being human, Levy would have reacted similar to Mugabe’s if elder Mugabe had used the same statement about any negative situation in Zambia. As said earlier, Ley has been too emotinal over KK’s comments on some negative issues affecting our nation. I’ve never been a fun of KK. I lived under his reign & I know how he started behaving like a god, insulting journalist with his ‘stupid *****’ phrase, when he was not addressed as ‘Your excellence, Dr’. No opposition could stand before him. But he seems to have changed & now has concern for the poor with HIV AIDS. We serve a God who gives people a second chance. For our Shona friend’s attitude toward us, it stems froms KK’s support for Nkhomo & our poor economy in the 1980s. Most of them now respect & appreciate us although some will never do so. For us let’s continue to love them.
Mother sells her child
A 23-year old woman of Kabanga village in Samfya has confessed to having attempted to sell her two-year-old son for K3 million to a businessman because of poverty.
Marjorie Nkandu said she decided to sell her two-year-old son because she was failing to provide for him and his other two siblings.
She said she started having problems to support her children after divorcing, her husband early this year.
The single mother said does not receive any support from her former husband or family.
Village headwoman Kabanga has also confirmed the incident.
However, Marjorie’s attempt to sell the child failed after the businessman refused to accept the offer and reported Marjorie to her relatives.
This is besides the mosqito net stampede
Sad story. We are not better of than Zimbabwe in the villages. God have mercy on our nation.
Chapi,
No shame I’m a Bembalite like Ba Presido Sata. Is there my fellow Bemba involved in these multi-million Kwacha arrangements or it’s the usual family tree package I have been singing about?
STATE INJECTS K37BN IN IDF
By Times Reporter
GOVERNMENT has launched the Irrigation Development Fund (IDF), with an initial injection of K37 billion, which is expected to revolutionise agriculture in the country.
Agricultural and Cooperatives Minister, Ben Kapita, who launched the Fund yesterday, said the long-awaited programme was targeted at putting 70,000 hectares of land countrywide under irrigation and noted that the sector would never remain the same.
Speaking during the launch of the IDF at farm number SD 51 of 28a Lusaka West, Mr Kapita said 75 per cent of the Fund had been set aside for small-scale and emergent farmers while the commercial farmers would get 16 per cent and nine per cent would go towards the equipment manufacturing and development.He was flanked by his deputy, Albert Mulonga, Permanent Secretary, Richard Chizyuka, Zambia National Farmer Union (ZNFU) president, Guy Robinson, and several other dignitaries.
Mr Kapita said Government had deliberately put the initial interest rate for farmers who would access the loan under the Fund at nine per cent to make it affordable even to all farmers.
He warned farmers against defaulting saying that anyone who would fail to pay back would incur an extra five per cent compound interest as a deterrent.Under the Fund, eligible farmers would borrow capital for acquisition of irrigation equipment and other requirements.
Finance Bank would be the main administrator of the whole Fund but other banks would access it for onward disbursement to the farmers.“Since the launch in Lusaka of the pilot peri-urban irrigation development component of the IDF in September 2006, over 60 hectares of irrigated land has been recorded.“This response has made my ministry to seek ways of expanding the peri-urban irrigation initiative to cover other parts of the country,†he said adding that the programme would be extended to other towns.
Transforming agriculture in Zambia called for broadening of innovations to cater for the entire sector and the IDF was one such innovation, he said.Mr Kapita said Government would not allow the Fund to go under like many had done in the sector and warned that all farmers found wanting would forfeit their assets, like cattle and tractors, to Government.
He said the ZNFU was in the forefront advocating the establishment of the Fund and paid tribute to the officials for the persistence.He told the gathering that crop production should not be confined to the rain season alone, considering that Zambia accounted for 40 per cent of water resources in the region.
He said irrigation development support was a top priority under the Fifth National Development Plan and it would be propelled by the IDF.Currently, irrigatable land was estimated at 425,000 hectares countrywide, out of which only 125,000 hectares or 25 per cent was under irrigation.
Earlier, Mr Robinson welcomed the launch of the Fund and challenged all farmers, small and large, to take advantage of Government’s commitment to the sector.
He said that irrigation was not only for commercial farmers and therefore small scale and emergent ones should engage themselves in the practice.Mr Chizyuka said the Fund was one of the long-awaited projects in the ministry and was happy that it had finally come to fruition.He called on farmers to take advantage of the situation and access the loans.
#119 FACT/VETERAN.Quit impersonating TRUE-SAGE and shame on you for promoting and defending TRIBALISM and NEPOTISM on this blog.
Chapi,
With due respect for your addiction to blogging 24/7, I acknowledge your revealed desire to blog me. Regrettably I have too many important things at hand directly enhancing value on society than blogging around the clock. I mean while blogging to you is a vocation, to me it’s an extracurricular that comes rarely but with fun after some product day. So don’t expect me to answer every nuisance of yours after the departure of Mr. Veteran.
Need to know that even though your tribal push and seemingly debased trolling of smear rants has hit a snag, I recommend you deeply reflect and re-strategize your role in the dynamic Zambia. You risk growing irrelevant because of your failure to learn from history. Tribalism in Zambia has always suffered defeat. For this fact there are extenuating reasons why UNIP ruled for 27 years in the face of opposition from tribalists now regrouped in PF.
Visionary Zambians will never revert to the Stone Age politics of trivial tribal lines your clueless blogging is evidently anchored on.
You are amoral and a costly liability to Sata and Chiluba’s hope. I have always wondered why they have kept on struggling to sustain your useless tribal campaign assignments considering that push is increasing eating into their political constituency.
Stunningly, your self imposed sanctuary in the USA despite access to the social welfare services you have been drawing from to supplement what Sata wastes on you, disgracefully you have not used them to learnt anything from the American dynamic politics.
A normal person worth any substance or futuristic in vision would not be preoccupied 24/7 blogging the impenitent sin of tribalism, trivialities and unproductive hatred you have proved your devotion.
Certainly, I’m tot launching a person attack on you, but have morally found it noble to let you know that your conspiracy against the united Zambian ethnics has kept pushing your PF to Sodom and Gomorrah whose fruits you are yet to bear before 2010. Call me all the names you can come up with but not so called TRUE SAGE. That name is synonymous with tribalism. While I’m a Zambian centrism rooted in the One Zambia One nation creed. I believe in man north, south, east, west, central and every part of my beautiful Zambia.
LAZ PROBES MUNDIA FOR INCOMPETENCE.
I would like to say that most Zambians have underestimated Levy, but watch and see. Mugabe will be dealt with by this same Levy. At this time of the day, all honest Zimbabweans will rally behind Levy. Dictators have come and gone only God lives forever. These are the last days of Robert Gabriel Mugabe. His days are numbered. All dictators always behave so stabborn in their last days eg Hitler, Mussolini, Kaunda, Saddam and now Mugabe. Zimbabwe and Zambia, lets unite to remove Mugabe. He is not immotal.
Pezku (123),
Yours is drivel without research.You think Levy is without experienced advisory to subject the peaceful Zambians to unbeneficial vundu? We have enough problems of our own.
#122 Chapi, why LAZ not police. This man mismanaged taxepayers monies. How can he get $666 per day with delivering. The police must charged him now this LAZ what can they do to a fellow friend who was even their boss at one time. This circus is not good pipo are not igorant anymore.
All Beloved bloggers .. Ignore all postings from TRUE-SAGE. I havent bloged since thursday. Anyway, The Issue regarding Mugabe(Bob) with LPM can easly be resolved. First LPM has to understand that SADC is just like a club. Being SADC chairman is just like being chairman of Lions club. In other words LPM has no power to make any decision regarding ZIM. I understand LPM means well on ZIM. But LPMs biggest enermy is himself. The man doesnt know how effectly communicate. Look at the PTA issue. Each time he opens his mouth he gets misunderstood.He should be careful in dealing with sensitive issues or he risks plunging SADC into cheos. Bob had every reason to be furious. LPM has no right to decide on tabling the ZIM question. He should have talked to Bob in private before the meeting.I think for now LPM should keep quite and for the sake of brotherhood he should travel to Harare before travelling to any sadc member.His travel within sadc will be understood as mobilising support against Bob.
#125 EASY ,… First LAZ has to deal with the issue if found to have deliberately protracted the case so that he could keep milking GRZ, then the police can arrest him and charge him with obtaining money by false pretences and thefty by public servant.which will cost GRZ another K10BN because they will hire another incompetent prosecutor who will enter a nolle and he will also be arrested and sued. so the circus goes on and on untill all the lawyers are finally arrested for plunder and GRZ will be bunckrapt.
Guys look at your future leaders, the Australian government resolved to deport Zimbabwean students whose parents were said to be linked to the Government.Mr Tsvangirai, who has children studying in Australia despite the fact that he is not gainfully employed, was blasted for hypocrisy after he came out in full support of the deportations.
The MDC faction leader was rewarded with A$18 million by his Australian masters in a bid to intensify the Western-sponsored regime change project.
LPM is very quarrelsome even with his cabinet colleagues in early days of MMD. He wrote a letter accusing Gen Miyanda of wanting to takeover Chiluba illegally. He accussed Sata of corruption at Medical Stores. DPP then Gregory Phiri Dismissed that case.
Easy (128),
That is rubbish but remember Tsvangirai’s desperation is no different from my own Presido Sata compromised with plunders to bankroll him for amnesty. For political expedience he immorally waged a self style tribal war that failed him. Today we are stuck in this endless political intrigues, defections and hopelessness because of him.So even Tsvangirai is netted himself in that web.
SAGE, I appreciate your comment on the Levy-Mugabe issue. I have argued that Levy made a mistake & he should humbly send a writen apology to Bob. Most us know that Bob has made some mistakes in his quest to get land for his people. We especially don’t condom the shedding of blood by his war veterans. At the SADC summit, Levy had no right in suggesting that they should discuss the Zim issue because the situation in that country is ‘unnaceptable’. Levy was willing to go and meet the former SADC chairman at Pamolzi hotel before the summit to make sure that he was going to be handed the SADC chair. But his actions shows that he never consulted Mbeki and other leaders who had dealt with Bob to find out how to deal with the Zim issue. He should have also talked to his elder brother Bob first to hear from him. Zambia has nothing to gain trying to remove Bob as some would like us to do. AS for Tsvangirai, he is not leadership material for Zim. Instead, he’s the Chiluba of Zim.
Zambia is leading 2-0 In South Africa
Thanks HK this good news
Boys Zambia leads 3:0 South Africa are panicking
Thanks too fo the good news. I can now go sleep. See you all later.
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HALF TIME! South Africa 0-3 Zambia boys keep the midfield interact and seal the defence in the secon have. Goooooooolllllllllll
SA 1:3 ZAM
Zambia qualifies to CAN2008 after smashing SA 3:1
Guys I found this on the Internet: A quiet life on death row
Hundreds are killed each year, but the government couldn’t find an executioner
In a country where most people have no job, and those who do are rarely paid, you would expect a horde of applicants for an occasional position that requires only basic skills and pays US$3,500 a go, plus a nice house to live in and a Lexus to drive.
But the job’s been vacant for 12 years. Finally the government has given up searching for an applicant at home, and has gone abroad to find someone. And its search has been successful.
From this week, Mr Jonas Chilembe, 34, of Zambia, is the official Zimbabwean State Executioner.
Mr. Chilembe will not find himself that busy. There are only seven condemned men on our death row at present, even though no-one has been executed here since 1995
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Chu Chu is a real sell out to all the African People. He’s already sold out Zambia’s judicial independence, for a mere pat on the back from the western states, that has cost global tax payers millions of dollars, and for what? Western world curruption.? It goes like this: brittain gives Zambia a grant to pursue corruption cases, Zambia in turn pays british law firms the same money back through solicitors clients accounts.The question is which Solicitors are they paying? and to whom are they directly related, for this to work? Go figure! it wont be long befor you see a foreign army base in Zed. The pre cursor has begun. You all need to wake up, and stop being mentally docile. The world rest of the world doesn’t sleep!!!
#131 Visionary… LPMs biggest problem is that he has no one who can objectively advise him in Z. His advisors and ministers are too scared of him. Presidents go through their speeches time and again to fine tune the language, body language and tone. They say its not what you say , its you say it. Why is there always an uproar when ever LPM opens his mouth? It looks like LPM doesnt have a grasp of how international politics work. The keyword in politics is “negotiate”. If LPM whent underground and engage Bob at a brotherly level and negotiate the way forward, i think he could score big. Remember we are at Game point in Zim politics. I believe Bob is looking for a victorious way out. Thats why he wants to contest the elections win and the step down. He does not want to bow out and under pressure. If he can resist The west who is LPM , Besides he has the support of Thabo,Kabila Bingu etc. My advise to LPM is that he is standing at a threshhold of a major break through.
Well articulated SAGE (143). Below is some info on KK’s prayer mission to Uganda. After being a dictator for years, it seems KK will finish his earthly life well if he keeps changing for good. Levy should consult him on some issues.
Kenneth Kaunda to Visit Country
New Vision (Kampala)
9 September 2007
Posted to the web 10 September 2007
Joyce Namutebi
Kampala
FORMER Zambian President Kenneth Kaunda is expected in the country in October. According to Dr. James Nsaba Buturo, the ethics state minister, Kaunda will be the guest speaker at this year’s National Prayer Breakfast on October 8 at Hotel Africana, Kampala.
“Kaunda is a distinguished African leader with vast wealth of information on leadership. We feel that there is a lot that he will say on the subject,” Buturo said.
He added that President Yoweri Museveni will be the chief guest at the event under the theme: Servant Leadership.” About 600 people from 20 countries are expected to attend.
October 8 was declared a national da
SAGE,
It is very clear that you write from a point of unquestionable ignorance on dispute resolution, international political engagements and foreign policy of Governments. Theory and practice are two different things. Precisely the Zimbabwean situation is one of the many public issues I have vividly seen your ignorance on.
In 1996 Nelson Madiba Mandela was lambasted and vilified by Mugabe at the Luanda, Angola meeting before he abandoned the conference all for asking him to take an inclusive approach. I was in the advance party for Chiluba then who had an active hand in preparations for the Presidents’ summit. I challenge you to look at the minutes of that closed door SADC security meeting if you have to build credibility to speak on this issue.
For your information LPM as SADC Chairman wasn’t wrong to table the Zimbabwean situation before the heads of states. Also to dispel the stunning ignorance and faulty self styled diplomatic wisdom, LPM has been in constant touch with President Mugabe on phone and through high level emissaries. VP Rupia Banda a veteran career Diplomat and long time Foreign affairs minister with strong ties to Mugabe has been frequenting the Harare state house.
Prior to the SADC summit the VP was in Harare as LPM’s special envoy. When Mugabe got to Lusaka, LPM and Mugabe had a one to one frank closed door meeting with him on clear cut issues. Thus I don’t know what you are talking about on this blog. On advisors again it is clear that you write from a point of absolute ignorance and inexperience of how Governments approach issues.
Look through the President’s advisors on Foreign Policy and international relations, Politics, Economics and security. If anything besides many experts, a highly smart and seasoned Director General called Mr Phiri is heavily consulted on many issues.
Learn to research things to avoid self embarrassments. Where you are stuck, ask without ceasing atleast one knowledgeable Zambian active or in retirement could take interest to put you in the right perspective. I personally admire your passion to speak on national issues though always speaking from a point of absolute ignorance I have noticed. Keep trying and asking one day you could become credible only heavens know.
#145 Veteran You are back.The point here is not wether LPM has good and qualified advisors or not. HE DOESNT KNOW WHEN AND HOW TO PRESENT ISSUES. He has also set himself on high plains where people cant give him objective advise. Like i said earlier i know he means well but let him use people who know how to talk like VJ or FTJ. SADC is a club that doesnt have any powers on individual sovereign states. LPM went to pamodzi hotel to meet the then SADC chairman why???? . Why didnt he invite the chairman to Plot 1. All these are political blunders that can be avoided. But since you have blind loyalty i will let you keep ranting. RB may have been shunting to and from Harare. But Can he tell LPM the truth? KK went through this phase towards the end of his era where everybody was lying to him because they feared him. Veteran leadership is partnership.
ANOTHER LPMs Miscommunication
Persevere, Zambians told
PRESIDENNT Mwanawasa has called on Zambians to persevere and endure some of the current hardships as the country recovers economically. Speaking during a church service at Lima Hall in Itezhi-tezhi yesterday, Mr Mwanawasa said it was important for Zambians to persevere hardships before the country could become developed. Mr Mwanawasa also advised the people of Itezhi-tezhi to look to God in times of need. “As children of God, we should not hate perseverance because even the Bible teaches us to persevere. Some of us easily give up our faith when things get tough,†he said. Mr Mwanawasa observed that much economic progress had been made since the New Deal Government came into power six years ago, and that only through perseverance and cooperation between the Government and the public can the country develop economically. Mr Mwanawasa who dubbed his message as ‘Run The Race With Perseverance’ quoted Bible verses from the books of Hebrews 12:1-3 , Exodus 17:1-8 and Exodus 32:1-8.
And in a vote of thanks, Southern Province Minister, Joseph Mulyata thanked President Mwanawasa for having taken time to worship God with the people of Itezhi-tezhi.Mr Mulyata said he would also encourage the people of Southern Province to take the message of perseverance seriously if they were to develop economically. The church service, which was held at the Baptist Church, was attended by Mr Mulyata, Itezhi-tezhi member of Parliament, Godfrey Beene, District Commissioner, Leonard Shampile and several heads of Government departments in the district.- ZANIS
As president you are supposed to offer solutions to poverty and the verious economic hardship people are facing. You cant tell people to look up to GOD. we know GOD provides and he cares. DO YOU TELL YOUR KIDS TO LOOK TO GOD WHEN THERE IS NO FOOD IN THE HOUSE?? This man should Stop making public speaches.
Ba Mashina,
Are you ethist or satanist to abhor the name of God?
#149 Veteran. Whenever you feel defeated you start using my name again
Mugabe said that Chuchu has sold out Zed, how? can someone give some reflection over the statement made by Bob. “…not allow Mwanawasa to sell out Zimbabwe as he has done to Zambia.”
Diplomacy (145), Thank you for sharing that ‘LPM and Mugabe had a one to one frank closed door meeting with him on clear cut issues’. I find it strange that such a leaders who met Mugabe face to face in a closed meeting would use the word ‘unnaceptable’ while tabling the Zim issue. Having met Mugabe, he should have known the best way to handle the Zim issue. He should have also known how Mugabe reated to Mandela (based of what you have written). He should have also listened to the advise from Mbeki & the Tanzanian leader. It is clear to me that Levy lacked wisdom on how to hadle the issue he was presenting just as he later lacked wisdom in shunning the Taiwanese stand in Swazi. I agree with SAGE (146) that Levy does mean well, but he needs to use wise diplomats when dealing with Mugabe.
#147 Chuchu alelya aleikuta, nichifumo kwati nichula mbototo and then he says “Zambians to persevere and endure some of the current hardships as the country recovers economically”. Chuchu dont fool us pls, you dont know what it means to stay without food for many many days. So u just shout up and continue filling your already filled tammy.
SADC has failed zim pipo period.We condone bob has much as we like, but the reality is on the ground.You do not starve pipo then give then maize to vote for u.This oldie has run out of ideas, a new generation leader is needed.Not a unionist (Tshangirai) e.g FTJ, they need an economist, and they (zims) should realise it now, not that brain washing about Bush & Blair going on, otherwise they will not have a country to visit on holidays soon.They are all comfortable in SA, Britain, etc but the rosting will come home.
#145 Diplomacy, your piece of work is good I have doubt the confrontation of the leaders because the complaint didnot come LPM. I have time and again advised blogers about the media, for them bad news sells better. Your point of advice for bloggers to do research before they comment is cardinal one. Many are in diaspora and they hav lost touch with home. All they get is reading the media news like the post. This could be misleading.
#151 Chuchu has sold zed by giving all the newly constructed shops at Kamwala market and city centre market to chineses leaving zedian trading in along streets, where his henchwoman Silvia is chasing them and grabbing their goods day in and out day.
The market place at Kamwala is not the right place for true foreign investors.That is selling zambia and one day, we will say that Mugabe was right on this point. Some of us who are in diaspora have not lost touch with what is happening in mother Zambia & we don’t only get information from newspapers. We are also doing things which are bringing progress to our nation. sometimes you need to go out of your house and compare what is happening in other houses in order to know what is wrong in your own house. Lack of exposure for our civic leaders to the outside world has resulted politicising civic activities. As a result, our leaders don’t know what is acceptable in city and town planning & what kind of businesses are supposed to be done by foreign investors.
Robbie Mugabe is real and intelligent. The suffering of the inflictions of the Zim dollar and the Zim people are artficial causes by the imperalists West Devil America and . Ian Douglas Smith was allowed to rule Zim without any problems because of their same interests so was UDI without imposing sanctions. Mandela is a living example. KK can tell u. Lets unite with Mugabe Africa!!! In this century no muzungu can cheat us. Why are they still rich when we are failing to attain their so called MGGs infact Mugabe Mudala is clever than their so called Presidents or leaders. The same people trained and killed saadam Hussein.Please wake up dont follow people who live in glass houses.
You realize therefore significantly on the subject of this subject, made me personally imagine it from numerous varied angles. Its like women and men don’t seem to be involved unless it’s one thing to do with Girl gaga! Your personal stuffs outstanding. All the time deal with it up!