The Patriotic Front (PF) Members of Parliament participating in the National Constitution Conference (NCC) have distanced themselves from allegations that they are plotting to oust party president, Michael Sata and replace him with Second Republican President, Dr Frederick Chiluba.
And the PF MPs participating in the NCC have accused Patriotic Front Spokesperson Given Lubinda of creating a wedge between the PF members of Parliaments for participating in the NCC, their Constituents and PF supporters.
Addressing Journalists in Lusaka today, group spokesperson Dr Peter Machungwa who refuted claims made by the PF top leadership that the PF members participating in the NCC want to form a splinter group, said the party is desperately trying to create a pretext or grounds to level new charges on them.
Dr Machungwa described Mr Lubinda’s allegations as very serious and libelous, adding that Mr Lubinda’s allegations are meant to be sued as a basis for the expulsion of the PF members participating in the NCC.
He said their participation in the NCC is aimed at making an input in the constitution process and ensure that the NCC comes up with the provisions that will answer and safeguard the interests of the Zambian people.
Dr Machungwa said it is unfortunate for the PF top leadership to allege that the NCC participants will put into the Constitution a provision that would bar PF President Michael Sata from contesting the Presidential race because of his age.
He further noted that their participation into the NCC was aimed at ensuring that discriminatory clauses that do not benefit the people of Zambia are not part of the Constitution.
And Dr Machungwa has cautioned MMD spokesperson Benny Tetamashimba not to gain political mileage and cause confusion out of the current difference in the PF over participation in the NCC.
Dr Machungwa further cautioned Mr Tetamashimba not to be a political propagandist predicting doom for all opposition political parties, especially the PF.
He dispelled allegations made by Mr Tetamashimba that PF members attending the NCC are about to form a new political party together with some MMD members.
Dr Machungwa explained that if there is a group in the PF planning to form a political party with MMD or any other group, then it is not from the PF members participating in the NCC as PF members participating in the NCC were still party members.
He said it was sad and extremely unfortunate that the Second Republican President has been drawn into the party’s internal differences.
Dr Machungwa further said the fact that the former President Chiluba has stated that participating in the on-going constitutional making process is important and desirable should not suddenly turn him into an enemy of the PF leadership.
And Chifunabuli PF member of parliament, Ernest Mwansa, said there was nothing wrong for PF members to participate in the NCC as the party had started participating in the NCC since its inception.
The Patriotic Front (PF) has accused some of its Members of Parliament of plotting to oust Party President, Michael Sata and replace him with Second Republican President Dr Frederick Chiluba who they would float for the State Presidency in the 2011 elections.
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pa bwato!
Chapi,Kuku,KCC,SAGE aka Socrates & your legion of miniature Sata trolls,
Can i see your usual zest and bootlicking in illusions of Zambia with Sata in Nkwazi house? We have been telling you that your “John Dillinger” services needed sophisticated skills than learning from the back yard. So what is your Game plan for the on going rubbish in PF?
These are internal affairs.For now we are watching from a distance.
Morons tend to have a self destructing trend; am seeing it in PF!!!
Sata is the most dangerous(also ugly) politician left in the country and I hope his party colapses very soon….. oh yes, thats not likely to happen. most, if not all of sata’s followers base there support on his socialist stance as opposed to the Mwanawasa’s, Hechilema’s, and the Chirwa’s neo-leberal, business-friendly one. the poor minded will remain poor.
And to all those illiterate, dumb kaponyaz shouting for Sata as president, do you know what you are letting yourself and the country in for?
not only will interest rates sky rocket, the Kwacha will become toilet paper, petro will go through the roof and guess what? it will not be the rich whealthy people who will suffer but you, kaponya on the street.
wats pf ‘s website
Chapi boyi,
Listening to your indoctrinated overzealous Given Lubinda’s sullen, reckless apportioning of blame to others over internal gaps. It’s hard to miss your Party’s nonparallel incompetence and reactionary approach that has cursed PF & all you its bootlickers to eternal failure. The PF impulsiveness is void of elementary skills in managing privileged inform useful in competitive advantage.
Chapi,
To understand the genesis of Sata’s intransigence and [recent] odd behaviour, look no further than his thoughtless opportunism in the 3rd term crusade. Vindictive, tactless, irrelevant, blinkered, absurd, out of touch – no adjective can quite describe him toe-curling performance. What planet does this man live in?
Mwe Bantu what has happened to Ba Joze? Sata stain support is he still alive. Even ci SAGE und Chapi has disappeared after the NCC commenced. Has Sata reguested you to pay back the monies you got from Tawain. By the way the ruling party in Tawain has suffered a horrible election defeat. We shall see where your leader will run to now.
Taiwan’s opposition nationalist Kuomintang (KMT) party has won a landslide victory in parliamentary polls, official results show.
The KMT, which wants closer ties with China, secured 72% of the seats in the 113-seat chamber, beating President Chen Shui-bian’s party, the DPP
The independence-leaning president said he was “shamed”, resigning as chairman of the Democratic Progressive Party.
The elections are seen as a barometer for the presidential poll on 22 March.
The DPP got 27 seats (24%), while smaller parties won five seats. So where to Gary Scot and co? Disgrace!!!! supporting blindly the a wall. This is a heavy defeat for PF and SATA where will he look to
Miyanda seems to be the only credible leader left in the country for now.I just can not see Sata relevance in 2011.There will be a vacume that is going to emarge because I can forsee MMD becoming importent if Levy refuses to campagn for mmd candidate.To serve the country from plunging into turmoil We shall need a strong leader like the general.He is proven and he has demostrated that he will put the country first before his ego.He is patriote just like levy.I still give levy credity for injectin
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political will in the fight against corruption.Miyanda will bring stregth and honest into gov and build upon levys foundation.These plunders must NEVER EVER see powers of goverment.if the pipo will not do that Ipray that God can do that for mother zambia.I believe God can intervein.Just see how unsofistcated this pipo are they are now revealing thier behind the scene strateges.Thats why VJ still stands out.
There goes the FTJ gangster. These chaps shall never rule again. Their deeds are filthy. Thanks to LPM for the sanity you brought. May God bless you.
#14 Stay away from Miyanda. That is the most individualistic person who thinks he is always right and the rest are wrong. That guy is a full blown dictator waiting to take over power Hitler style. He will never listen to anybody and has not managed to form any alliance with anybody and that speaks volumes. The only good thing about him is he has a beautiful wife and that is about it. I will go for SATA because I can at least debate and argue with SATA.
Which alliances is Chocha refering to which are viable and were not marriages of convenience? We need principled leaders and I can only see General Miyanda and HH so far fitting the bill.Sata is a mobilizer and Kaunda correctly described him as having no presidential qualities.
only Power-hungry polititicians, clueless job seekers and beer-powered kaponyaz, who also make up a huge percentage of the zambian population will go for sata.
Those of us who have always maintained that Sata was not fit to be president will be proved right. In fact, this episode of introspection is a necessary evil for the PF. It is the culmination of months of interference by Sata in the affairs of the parliamentary party. MPs are elected because they have a brain cell or two and therefore are capable of thinking for themselves, NOT robot-like creatures to be controlled. I hope this upheaval brings about a catharsis, which is long overdue.
Who is this Chocha admiring other pipos wifes on the blog? You Guys you sometimes make me laugh. However on a serios note Miyanda too cannot become president of Zambia because of his short temper. He can end up causing with DR Congo over Katumbi. That is a general he doesnt know compromise all he know is that things are done and under commands. Remember he was once vice president of Zambia and what removed him from that position. That is the only legacy of FTJ other nothing to be proud ov
Who ever remembers PF holding a convention? Sata is one dictator who must never come close to presidency. He’s only interested in himself. We’ve had enough of him and his violent tactics. Away with him.
It’s unfortunate that in Zambia we dont have quality leadership. Those who dont move out of Zambia think Even Mwanawasa is the best president. Alas! we need leadership of people who will be their to serve the people not their interest. Mwanawasa is no better that, Sata, Chiluba, HH and others. May be Chirwa. Zambians workup and think big. These job sickers will just be making you poorer and poorer. Any way, we need PF as an oposition because, without PF MMD means Moreen Mwanawasa Dectatorship.
Zambians,Do you know that even Mwanawasa is a dictator? Do you know that Moreen will succeed Mwanawasa? But the question you need to ask is why are these polititians want to maintain their power?The whole issue is money.When are we going to have leaders in Zambia who will be in positions for the sake of serving people.We need alot of education in Zambia.I cant even say we have a single Political leader in Zambia who is there to serve the people.Try new people not recycled politicians.Think BIG
Mwaiche Pragmatist
When is my message going to get through your head that the NEW GENERATION of politics (POLITICAL DISPENSATION) is the answer to Zambia`s problems.
Insanity is defined as doing something over and over again and expecting a different result.Your recycled politicians have no clue about bringing development to mother Zambia.
Has your party finally allowed Prof Chirwa to contest the party presidency or are`re you waiting for KING LEVY to anoint or appoint his successor?
I concur with 25 on the need of a new political dispensation for Zambia. The current breed of politicians have failed the Zambian people. We need people with integrity to run the nation not for selfish edification, but to serve the nation. It is time we have in office people that will emphasise on the need for education, good health and and other economic and nation building infrastructure, rather than ones that will only pay lip service yet lining their pockets. Sata is past use by date.
Hey guys, now you think big.Dont leave this job to cheap poloticians who have lost their purpose. Zambia needs leader who will Bring development not all these recycled cheap material. Who are the PF are thy not from MMD? Who are the Miyanda? Are they not from MMD. Who doesent know that HH was in MMD and involved in the issue of salling of the minies? Who doesent know that FDD is from MMD. Who doesent know the history of these political tyrants who serve their bellies? Alas Zambians Think BIG
#25 Chapi but you have been supporting Satana all this time
#24 Think Big
I know you’re responding to my comment. Give me the name of your future leader who’s going to supersede LPM. Your FTJ was nothing but a thief. His gangster is no better than LPM. I’m not MMD, but I’ve liked LPM.
I introduced the miyanda subject and let me elaborate,We practice politics of poverty,friendship,hate,tribal and revenge.Miyanda was tortured by kk but when he had power he never used that to go against kk.There have been alliances that pipo have formed but reasonable pipo can read that there has been no substance these alliance that has ever emerged.We have had sprinter groups coming out of mmd but before long we have learnt that these groups eventually their egos gets in the way and they
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failed.We must be very carefull that we do not allianate pipo that can make progrss that we desparately need.just see how some pipo like roger chongwe now the are on the fence they can not fully weigh in politically.We are likely going to find ourselves fighting chilubas third term in 2011 if we do not wake up to this reality.In 2006 the third term suceeded on the CB this time around it will go round the country.We need strategist like VJ to avoid this some of u do not like vj but lets
give credit where its due.Miyanda bring respect and above the fray>he served in chilubas adm but no one is saying any role that he played in all these scandals.HH is riding a tribal horse and refused to distance himself from pipo that pushed tribal sentiments,he refused conderm the action of his party during mazokas funeral.Other leaders may arise but has experience and vision for zed
KAMBILOMBILO,
You arenot telling the truth by stating Miyanda did not try to nail KK. Man, Miyanda was the acting president when KK and Roger Chongwe were shot in Kabwe at the behestof this very Miyndaof yours. The man is an Abacha and satanic dictator to stay away from atall times. Besides, the way Chitomfwa brought him from Katanga in the boot of a 504, ni opusa Godfoolish.
Weluzani,
When thieves were raping Zambia ofits resources and selling the remainder for nothing to aliens, Miyanda was there snoring in government. When Chiluba, Mwila, Walubita and Castro were gunrunning for diamonds in Angola and that country almost went to war with us, this general of your was buy “Kayopering” seriously while we were in danger of being invaded. He is a silly fool never to rule this country. Besides, he failed as asoldier and also as VP and as minister of education.
#25 Chapi but you have been supporting Satana all this time
(28),
Well, there is no moral dualism, consistency or clarity of vision you can expect from Night Flyers that Chapi & team symbolize here . Once an indoctrinated goon on fantasy benchmarks, they forever remain goons in perpetuity. These are the unprincipled flip floppers our forefathers forewarned us about that they would surface in 100 colors but all in vain if & only if we preserve our steadfast patriotism.
I hope you will recall that FACT & I generously forewarned these kids; Chapi, Kuku and their fellow PF sponsored thugs here. We warned them that their shallow push for a tribal divide in the Zambians politics based on the imaginary family tree rhetoric was a trap to their irrelevancy. They are cruising with Sata in bottomless pit.Those who resist learning from history, are victims of their own blunders under harsh posterity.
They were ill coached to disseminate tribal hatred on the first family but closely watched and now permanently written-off in the nascent Democracy in the face of a strong national unity & patriotism. I beat you, these kids will realize along the way about their predicament as far as Ground politics are concerned. Zambians are unforgiving to tribalists. Such have no record of success in any cause since 1964.
I repeat, for 3 years these amoral kids blindly bootlicked Sata with Chapi as PF chief “John Dilinger”. I was all for cheap on the market. Today in his hour of adversity they are denying him 7 times. Like their boss, they are vindictive, tactless, irrelevant, blinkered, absurd, and out of touch – no adjective can quite describe their toe-curling performance. It’s disgusting to see then rant like class A retards with difficulty in memory.
It was all for cheap on the market.
Easy, Pragmatist, Original Pundit Pundit and Senior Citizen
There was a time when you were lone voices against a hurricane of PF Zealots and sycophants. You continued to defend what is pure and good for this country with patriotism and steadfastness. You stood on truth. Today you have been vindicated. The hordes of Zealots that supported Chimbwi Satana
have disappered now that he is in trouble, like morning dew in sunshine.
Ba Citizen(40),alot of the PF zealots are young minds who are not mature enough to use history to predict the future.Most of them hardly know the true characters of those they have supported.Their contributions have however been valuable as they have tasked us to really think about what kind of leadership we would all prefer.Everyone has a role to play as well as the protected right to voice their opinions and i am more encouraged than ever before!!
pf is finished,i pray that the speaker declares the pf seats vacant once pf announces there expulsion….that will be good riddance..the people were deceived by these greedy politicians…
PF is party of jokers. They can’t develop this nation. Already the things PF promised they would do within ninety days of winning Local Government elections are nowhere to be seen. We can’t even notice any effort being made. I’m glad Sata didn’t win the last presidential election.
Abantu Baya(Yola 2000),PF have provided us with good entertainment and hopefully the Zambian people will know a joker when they see one !!the lesson has been expensive but good education has never been cheap !!!
Super Ken said it all: “Sata is not presidential material.” I am happy that his MPs have defied his autocratic tendencies. Abash Sata. Kuya bebele. Satana zwa zwa zwa
PATRIOTIC Front (PF) leader, Micheal Sata, has instructed his lawyers to start legal proceedings against the party’s Matero member of Parliament, Faustina Sinyangwe, for alleged defamation of character.Mr Sata said Ms Sinyangwe had made a statement in one of the daily newspapers alleging that he was a thug with no leadership qualities.He said the alleged statement had greatly defamed him.
Folks,
That is where the difference between a thug and a statesman is vivid.Thugs have no heart for dissent and uncensored criticism.
Thugs are defensive of being called by their character and survive on threats and litigations.
No Zambian has ever gained on litigations like Ba Sata.Now over a sincere statement by Mrs Sinyangwe, the old man is busy scrounging for technicalities of digging some Gold.
At his Geriatric age, I wish Ba Sata matured into a true Statesmen .
Pragmatist… There are a few things that bothers me a lot regarding the PF Saga.
1. Why did Sata instruct PF members of parliament to vote for the NCC ACT if he knew it was flaudulant.
2. Why did Machungwa and his friends vote to boycotte the NCC during PF MCC meeting.
Both these two positions are wrong. If Sata didnt agree with the content of the NCC bill, he should have objected before it become law. thats why i find the rasoning wanting.
Machungwa and his cohorts only decided to ….
participate after finding out the hefty allowances. Sata errored in beginning. But he felt a sence of betrayal by the machungwa camp. He cant trust them, they are driven by financial gain and not purpose and conviction. They must GO.
#45 Lee Chanda, You sound like a Tonga Dr. HK I remember such sentiments when I was in school ZWA ZWA. Kuti waseka sana!!! Why war on the net? Cant we discuss about things that can bring our nation forward. You boys the president has just sent a group of intectuals to win investors to India in the ICT. I advise you to up course in engineering, Medicine, ICT, Administration, Law instead of wasting your time on Sata who has reached his afternoon in politics. He will not rule Zambia 2006 showed
Pragmatist
Check the archives and if you`ve got any moral fiber,you`ll admit and acknowledge my earlier prediction.In case you`ve got a weak memory I`ll remind you once again about those facts.I wrote that MMD and PF will be at each others throats and as a result create an opening for a political genius to cause a major upset in 2011.
MMD is fueling the current problems in PF while PF is also causing confusion in MMD on who succeds LPM.
New POLITICAL DISPENSATION = answer to ZED`s problems
#41 Kanabesa TOP
What`s your comment about the MMD hierachy trying to stop Prof Chirwa from contesting the party presidency?
#55 Chapi
It is a wise move.
Citizen,
I never supported SATANA! Iam a neutral zealot. Scrap my name from the list the chapis and Sage sergent.
You zedians are dandruheads, thats why you are lead by a garbage presdo. All you do is quarreling on this blog about who is a better leader not development and nothing comes from blogging. Especially this man called Mr Pragmatist all he talks are rubbish and nothing sensible from him dandruhead.
#57 Easy,
Kindly read my posting at 40 again. I am extolling you for nt supporting Chimbwi Satana. You are listed among great compatriots like ba Original Pundit, Ba Pragmatist na ba Senior Citizen. Hold your peace.
#58 Anonymous
I keep on repeating that spend time with books, that is the only way to illuminate the dark recceses in your brain. Do not waste your youth by trying to comment on things you barely understand. What is dandruhead? What are you trying to say?.
#56 CITIZEN
Let the delegates at the MMD convention decide if we call ourselves TRUE DEMOCRATS.
New POLITICAL DISPENSATION is the answer to Zambia`s problems.
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