Friday, March 29, 2024

Woman kills her babe

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A 28 old woman has killed her own baby after she gave birth in Sinazongwe District.

Sinankumbi Village Community Health worker Ackson Siankandi told ZANIS that Nzila Siamungulu of Gamela village in Senior Chief Mweemba area gave birth and decided to throw her babe in the stream.
Mr. Siankandi said Ms Siamungulu hide the babe in the bucket before she threw it in the stream.
He said people in the village found the babe had already died because of the water.

The Community Health Worker said the people in the village were surprised because the family members together with the village headman failed to report the matter to Maamba police.

Mr. Siankandi noted that the village headman decided to punish the woman through digging the grave to bury the child.

“The people in the area are not happy with the incident and they think such happening would create a bad habit in the area,” Mr. Siankandi said.

Mr. Siankandi has since appealed to Maamba Police to investigate the matter to arrest the alleged killer of the babe.
[ZANIS]

68 COMMENTS

  1. this is too serious fellow citizens. i suggest that the alleged killer should be dealt with together with the family members and the headman for failure to report such a stupid behaviour to relevant authorities…

  2. Satani wamuntu ooyu!!what the hell was running thru ur mind when u did that?when having sex,much as it is nice ,you knew the reparcations!cage the murderer and shud be sentenced to hard labour.

  3. Its high time people in Zed realised that postnatal depression exists. the maternal bond is so strong that no normal woman will just throw her baby away. This woman needed help because i believe she is sick, but this can only happen if there is sensitisation on the issue of postnatal depression. mumangeni may not help the situation. but when people know that they can speak to someone if they dont feel anything towards the baby, or if they feel they want to harm their baby, would be very helpful

  4. Could it be that the woman concieved that child through rape? Such a child would remind her of the savage who raped her through out her life.

  5. #7You are right.There’s also need to understand if the woman had some serious mental problems like POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION before she is condemned such women need medical and pshychological help.

  6. The President should create a new ministry for Dora Siliya called the Ministry of Sex and Love Affairs. If what has been posted here is true then she has more than enough ‘experience’ and ‘qualifications’ to handle such a ministry. It would then be right to call her the horny minista …sorry the honourable minister. The question I have though is, didn’t Chisha Folotiya know Dora’s past role as a ‘public worker’ at UNZA? Guys before you decide to settle down with some of these girls please do some BSC (background sex checks)!

  7. Imwe mwabathu! It is a pity that some of the chaps who are blessed with kids are of this type while a lot of capable and responsible fellows have really tried to conceive but to no avail! Now, what is the way forward? Open up abortion clinics or castrate would be uncaring fathers? The lost baby had a father and the fact that he is not part of the story means a lot about what could have driven the lady to do such a heineuos crime! What laws are in place to deal with parents who give us a lot of street kids. Just like Jesus rescued the woman about to be stoned, I am sure he would today tell this one to stand up and go, for society judges women faster and only them! Namwe a Dumbu muleke kaluso!

  8. Whatever the cause may be ,this matter falls under the State’s jurisdiction, not the chief or headman. As others have pointed out postpartum syndrome, or post natal depression are conditions that require appropriate proffessional diagnosis and treatment.So that if this is what ovarcame this woman she needs such help. If indeed she did the unthinkable by premeditation, the relevant authorities must prosecute as this matter is not the prerogative of some Chief! We have been through this road before with defilement cases where clearly the culprits ought to be arrested and prosecuted yet they are left inthe hands of uncles and chiefs for monetory gain.

  9. #9
    EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE A PAST INCLUDING DORA. AM NOT HER FUN BUT AM TIRED OF MEN POSTING BULL ABOUT DORA’S PAST AND ACTING HOLIER THAN THOU’! DONT ACT LIKE MEN ENTER INTO MARRIAGE VIRGINS. THEY HAVE WORSE OF MILEAGE THAN MOST WOMEN! IF DORA CHOSE TO HAVE AN ‘OPEN LEG’ POLICY THAT’S HER EFIN BUSINESS! HELL! IT’S HER LIFE AND HER CHOICE. GET OVER IT, NGATI ENZE ANAKUKANI PA UNZA, NINSHI MWENZE BA CNP, SO SPARE US YOUR DORA’S MILEAGE TANTRUMS.

  10. #9 Has posted this same blog on another thread. Is the education, meteoric rise and career gains of this very smart and intelligent woman too much for you to handle or you really dont have a job and this is how you cool off your frustration? Your posts on this lady on different threads are countless. WHAT’S YOUR POINT? Just visualizing this honourable lady or seeing her name makes you react like Dracula in the face of a cross!Chill man, and get yourself a damn life. As long as you remain grouchy in life you will never get anywhere. Look inside your closet, its time to clean it up. It stinks!

  11. Wait a minute, did I hear someone say even ‘go deeper’ could be high up the power archelons and we should get over it 🙂 But I agree, everyone makes mistakes during educationin and they learn from them and excel. No one should be condemned for life for such things.

  12. The village headman/chief in that area had a wise judgement than your useless COURTS will. He knows his people and their personality. You people who want to hang the woman, did you see the baby itself? Do you know who was the father, do you know her mental condition? You so called modern justice, especialy Zambian way is very primitive. Biblical Moses was thrown away. Maybe the woman didn’t intend to kill the baby….

  13. I feel that it is a tragedy that this took place in a country that is considered to be under God! the lady did something that is unethical and unjust, whatever the reason an example has to be made of her. Not judging her but justice must be served. Should it be just if she meets the same fate? only God himself can answer. the innocent babe went to be with the Lord and Savior. Where will the childs mothers journey end.

  14. I submitted and entry abouve #19 I felt that if I had a point of view I shouldn’t be a coward but re-type a submission with my full name.EDITED

  15. You have been given the chance to live, WHY should you deny the defenceless baby a chance to live?? Evil doers should be punished for thier sins!!

  16. yaba, evil dramaz again. if we were to sympathise with the lady, by saying she had those depression, ok. what about the chief and family members? do they have that depression thing too, are they implicated or what? justice should prevail though, i person died and that should be taken serious.

  17. Correction, #18 (Wibilima), Moses was not thrown into the river. He was hidden there by his mother who didn’t want the Egyptians to kill him (they were killing all male Isralite babies). His (Moses’) sister was set to watch over him to avoid anything bad happening to him. His mother would priodicaly go there to feed him.

  18. Icyo ci mayo cilishilu sana kwati tacaumfwile labour ubukali Cigwileni nico pusa pamozi na ba chief bonse nibopusa
    Nanga why mumamita ngati simufuna bana shaaaaaaaaaaa kupusa

  19. The act itself of killing an infant is very diabolic and it must not be encouraged in Zambia!!! let the police take this woman for proper psychological assessment. Am sure she needs help!!!!

  20. i am very surprised to hear about the baby being thrown in to the stream. oh may God! did she feel the labour pain or atesemwine fye elyo umwana afuma? punishing her to dig the grave for the baby doesn’t mean she has been punished nooooooooooo.people of zambia lets be serious, can you really compere the dumped baby with moses….. honestly speaking! let the girl be punished by the court.what was the head man thinking question him also.THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF THE BABIES. PLEASE TAKE THAT MATTER TO COURT IMMEDIATELY.

  21. wait a minute where was the family members? becouse from the look of things she can not deliver with out the elders ;;;;; UWAPUTWILE UMUTOTO NINANI. ASK THE AMBUYAS. punish the head man also, may we just dont know,the head man was the father of that baby thats why he even gave the simple panishment to the murderer.that punishment can not be given to the murderer.please look at this.

  22. In the jungles of africa, bushwomen and your ancestors delivered their babies alone, they cut the umbilical cord by biting it off with their teeth like wild animals do in the nature. Many young girls abducted by rebel soliders still has to go through this ordeal in the jungles, so does many women of todays generation who live in remote areas, i’ve personally meet such a poor woman who gave birth alone in the bushes while trying to escape from captivity, her baby was born brain damaged, but is still alive. Question: which woman would be proud about such a thing?

  23. As soon as a henious crime of this nature occurs, it is incumbent upon the relevant judicial authorities to act so that a thorough investigation and if necessary, prosecution, can be undertaken.This is not petty theft or assault where you have to go and file a complaint.Even in the remote possibility that other circumstances such as mental health imbalance led to these results appropriate agencies must be involved.It is wrong for the village headman to tamper with and collude to hide evidence before the law has run its course.He too needs to be taught a lesson so there is no repetition.

  24. Wow!! we will never change as Zambians. There is just too much hatred and Jealous among Zambians. We do not want to see anybody else prosper. if you are doing well in our country, people will start calling you names (witch, thief, iwule ) even if that somebody is being bless by God.Let us learn to appreciate what others have achieved and not trying to bring them down. ebuloshi bwine ubo. the subject here is the person who killed her child and not Dora Siliya. leave her alone!!!!!

  25. Hey, #31 sorry if I have offended you. No need to write it twice. But can`t you read #9? Do you need classes to do that????

  26. 36 and 37, You classless stinkin’ mother.f.u.c.k.i.n.’ son of a B.I.T.C.H., both o’you products of the devil, will go and rot in the inferno of hell. You are not man enough to come forward so we can hear what you have to say. You filthy minded dog probably have never had a woman in life. You are a pathetic, sorry human,no, Animal. Come out you faggot. your balls have rolled back behind your stomach you uncooth illiterate. Get a life, its possible you could still rejoin civilized society….

  27. If people in your civilised society insult the way you fool insults then i would rather be uncivilised. If you believe Dora is not a slut thats ok but i know she is a slut and there is no amount of insults that will change that fact. CASE CLOSED!

  28. This is a really sad story more especially that there is loss of an innocent baby (not born by his or her own choice)that is lost> It is true that the mum needs not only psychological evaluation, social, or familial evaluation and other aspects that may have in one way or another contributed to the incident. It is true that it time that we got more sensitised regarding post pastpaturm ? depression etc. What ever the reason, there is a loss of life and the law has to take its rightful course, not only on the mother, but family members and chief that decided not have the matter reported to law encorcement authorities.

  29. It is sad to note that we dont hear anything about the man that has to be responsible as father…jus goes to tell about our rather unfair and most cultutrally influced perception about who has to be responsible when involving in atcs that can potentially bring about a birth. As people aware of the sad story, we have two choices, remember, “news is old news happening to new people” in other words, this has 50% if chance of happening in the future. we can either be stuck here or take steps that can potentially change thing in the future, and in staying with the later;

  30. what we telling boys of age regarding owning up when it comes to matters of physical intimacy?? while the need to educate our girls re sex smarts cannot be over emphasized,(… men that are only interested in physical satisfaction do not care about consequences,…the poor mother left to deal with pregnacy, baby etc). What are we doing regarding the need for sensitization about the issue of post paturm depression?? And where there’s pregnacy by rapee (..where seeing baby grow may be a potential constant reminder of the sad event) what sort of social support systems and attitudes do we have to support wemen involved? etc. We need God now than more than ever. Lord help us.

  31. #40 Tom K, Since you and your ilk have determined and insisted that this is the language you speak, i am going to use the same language in order that you understand.You for one, are a living example that this world would be a WHORE less better if your mother had not been born.Instead she let every Dick and Jack(a.ss) slide in and out until a bastard resulted. The post-whore traumatic syndrome you now exhibit was acquired at birth and your anger is misdirected! Cut out this crap out and stop throwing stones from your f.u.c.k.i.n glass house. Yes there is room in civil society for us all. Ain’t too late buddy!

  32. How tragic. Nonetheless this clueless chief/headman must be held criminally culpable on many fronts including evidence tampering and be used an example by having him face the music.The girl too must be evaluated with consequenses pending.

  33. Guys we all know that you can be as explict as you want but please lets respect other innocent readers and have a code of conduct in as far as the language issue is concerned. This topic if my memory serves me right was supposed to discuss the issue of dumping a child and not songs of insults for those who know them best. So please it future lets use our words constructively.

  34. anonymous seems very upset about dora, whats up dawg, has hse done anything that has offended u for you to feel that way, dude if uve at one time benefited and u did not like it just shup up instead of making noise in here as a mater of fact i dont give the f**k how u call dora and also u #38 whats yo f**king problem are you doras personal adverse or what maybe her PIMP i say so bcoz u seemed pieced off man. and sorry if ive use any bad language

  35. now listen dudes it aint matter what the case here is about the baby and da chief the fact of the case is that as long as such atrocities happened in his kingdom then he has the right to carryout judgment as he deems just as in the olden days b4 we had modern courts. get real pipo, she committed murder and as far as i am concerned unless other factors proven beyond reasonable doubts she should be charged for murderer period.

  36. No communist#49, i’m not ‘pieced off’but i’m quite pissed off. And i’m not ‘her adverse’ but merely shielding her from the unwarranted adversity. Neither am i a Pimp which, as i understand, is something you do for a living sir.I believe we should let sleeping dogs lie and all respect each other.I have never met the lady and do not know her but i feel that she and the new cadre of women leaders represent exellence and hope for our younger generation and deserve our respect and support.I know i’ve previously erred in my choice of extreme language and i deeply apologize to everyone.I will however steadfastly support and defend Dora just as i would your sister in similar circumstances. Peace.

  37. Thank you # 30 I thought as much. We are suppose to suggest to the relevant authorities about what should be done to the lady who killed her baby and not Dora. If there is a need to discuss Dora Siliya, bring it up in a proper manner unlike the insults am seeing here.

  38. some pipo are brought up in the families of insults. leave DORA alone, is she part of the story? why? i dont know her but i have come to understand why most of the pipo are talking rubish things at her. please stop. talk about the cruel mother.

    just concertrate on the issue of child dumping.

    concerned .

  39. e you, # 9 and a few others may not be disgruntled men but actually hurting women like myself. How can I ever be proud to have such a “leader” associated with my country? I even have childish hopes of seeking audience with Dr Mwanawasa to explain to him what his so called Minister is doing by wrecking my home. It doesn’t even matter whether my husband initiated he affair or not..the fact of the matter is that the whore knows he’s married and even mocks me about it.

    the issue here is not how i am handling the affair or what i’m doing about my marriage. I am merely telling you all that she is a whore who does not deserve what is coming to her and is disgracing us (women excelling in their c

  40. arrers). Now, I just stumbled onto this site…how can i start my own thread on this issue??

  41. Friends. This thread is about a sad case of murder. HOWEVER, I was shocked…and somewhat relieved….that i found messages within that discussed something I would like to contribute to. I know that most of you will hate on me insult me and call me all kinds of names but I need to let you Zambians know. My husband has been havin an affair with the whore Dora Siliya. Before you go judging me, I have hateful text messages and emails from her that I would be glad to forward to any of you if you need proof. I dont know how long its been going on but for anyone who has been cheated on, the duration does not really matter.

    She is a whore whether you want to believe it or not and I can assur

  42. Obviously he is a daylight philanderer and i cannot see why you would want to protect someone who has betrayed your trust and hurt you emotinally,yet be willing to send out ‘evidentiary e-mails’ to strangers! Sounds kind of corny dont you think? So if you really know what you’re talkin’ about post evidence that will prove that and not just increase sick speculation about this incredibly gifted leader!

  43. I agree with #61. ‘I Know What I.T.A.’#55-57 this topic died a natural death long before jesus resurrection a week ago. So live it alone or, since you claim to be an educated woman excelling in your career, take the high road and resolve your man’s infidelity with HIM,through the courts or for that matter, your traditional court and let this topic R.I.P. on this site. Otherwise you are just one of those earlier bloggers who wants to spread a virus of ‘hate e-mails’ to those who do not appear to share your mission of profuse anger. Move on……and keep on going!

  44. I personally support #12 and some developed countries which support abortion to be legal in public health hospts coz pipo have diff problems which could be psychological, physical, social and spiritual. If we had this in zambia we were going to have less street kids and cases like the one we have at hand. Lets me sight an example here abt keeping an HIV+ baby it’s really in & out of the hospt, they even call you mama ODI KUNO and when we go for family planning they tell us it’s infected so were are we?

  45. fellow blog members going outside the topic at have and open the healing wounds will cause no good than harm to us, some of the pipo hate insults, mind yr comments you claim to be church goers on sunday we c u with a bible shame on u i wish i knew u

  46. fellow blog, members going outside the topic at hand and open the healing wounds will cause no good than harm to us, some of the pipo hate insults, mind yr comments you claim to be church goers on sunday we c u with a bible shame on u, i wish i knew u.

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