The law does not bar an acting President from approving salary increments to ministers and holders of constitutional offices.
Chief government spokesperson Mike Mulongoti said this is why there should be no uproar, just because President Mwanawasa did not approve the salary increment for ministers.
He told ZNBC news that the approval of the 15 percent pay rise corresponds with the percentage that has been offered to civil servants.
Meanwhile MMD National Secretary Katele Kalumba believes the recently reported pay rise has come after a long process of consultations.
Dr. Kalumba urged government and the treasury to collectively explain to the people details culminating into the reported pay rise
Well, since you are keeping the nation in suspence concerning the the President’s condition why not keep everything including salary increaments for his ministers on hold while WE CONTINUE TO PRAY?
what is going on. VP can approve..and VP says I can’t Parliament should be asked? Do we have somebody in charge of this nation? Am actually shocked that indeed LPM rejected these increments. Why do it when he is sick. Something fishy here. Why not run UNZA and hospitals properly and amd sure if he comes back he would reward you. Something is a not right here. Even Katele is in on the act
#1 AM WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. LET THE WHOLE NATION BE ON PAUSE!
its easy to give and defend a pay rise for these chaps,,but if lecturers,nurses,teachers and council workers do the same it becomes an issues..lugwagwa has refused to comment on the allowances of unza students citing that hes waiting for levy to come back..this country has gone to the dogs
its just does not make sense..it takes a zambian worker to throw stones and break cars for govt to listen and if not careful u end up loosing yo job,,,there are a lot of un answered questions.
wat hapened to shakufuswa,
wat is katele doing in goverment,
the auditor general’s report
why vernon mwanga was fired wen he did the rite thing
the gold bars that were found by acc at the airport
the million dollars that involved kaunda’s son and the jamaican woman
mwanawasa condtion and how much is being spent in terms of bills
can some one tell us
The whole country should be on pause? Zambia twachula!
Now that this Mulongoti somehow confirms that Levy,who is constitutionally still the President was trully was against salary increments then why the hell go ahead to table the same contraversial recommendations to parliament for ratification when the especially now that he is not ill & incapable of making decisions,i think this is where a line has to be drawn,these people are hell bent on amassing a good amount of wealth as the probability of Levy coming back to lead keep on getting smaller.
Since the president is stable and up and about let us all wait for him to approve this salary increment Mr Mulongoti.The Levy family cannot complain on this 200% increment considering how much of the Tax payers money is going towards the medical fees £300 000.00 or is he in the presidential medical suite?
Contd from #7
I wish the people especially civil servants could stage a go slow & ask that salaries in the service be aligned before any increments could be made.The salary structure is not balanced,there are big gaps between what the seniors get & what the juniors get so even the 15 percent increase will be a drop in the ocean for junior servants.
I also wish the govt had another spokesperson,Mulongoti is way too arrogant,i wonder what his cv is like,where did he come from does anyone know?
Something is wrong here and for a long time i have never trusted politicians. I can’t believe ministers can allow themselves to be so stupid to a level where they contrast themselves. Where is their integrity? Zambians can not be fooled in this way and with all honest i believe the noble men,women and the church of our country should stand up against this kind of injustice.
K Mulongoti iwe uzaciona !!what’s your problem?are you just after amassing alot of wealth and leave the govt coffers dry?service to the people first mudala….you guys are just selfish now!!15% and 200% can’t be eqauted.you must be getting mad Mike!!
Mulongoti must apply for a real job in the private sector where he will be rewarded according to his real output. These guys in cabinet think that they can become millionaires by stealing from the weak, dispossessed citizens by voting themselves hefty salary increases!
We must throw these thieves out from public office. Let them aspire to be millionaires by getting real jobs in industry instead of stealing from the treasury.
RB has really let us down. He is pandering to the whims of these thieves because they sense that he is a weak leader – both politically and financially. This means that at the end of the day, we have plunderers in Cabinet with the VP ready to appease these thieves.
Personally, i dont think the president is coming back thats why these chaps can even increase their salaries, they know that they wont be in office for too long so they have to gain as much as they can now. People brace yourselves for new elections next year.
Looking at the situation these guys are taking advantage of Levys illness.knowing that if they increase it would be difficult for levy to change it, because it would have already been done. The other thing could be they definately know that if Levy were to come back he might not rule at all(He might not be fit to rule on health grounds, and they are desparate).I do believe quiet a few of these guys really know what Levy’s condition is, others are following blindly as they also plunder in their desparation.Will see how it goes only God knows as for now.The country cannot be on pause as we needed development,we cannot do that at the expense of our development.
Cabinet has crossed the line,they have been caught in a lie and are acting a fool We can fuss ,cuss or discuss, but with any action. Nothing will change ! We need Unions to show their teeth and start bitng. Cabinet do not take the Zambian people for granted because very soon your sorry asses will regret.
RB, Katele (left hand rule), Mulongoti and the rest of MMD crooks u have started your nonsense. Let me warn you, Zambia is not like Zimbambwe where citizens can allow few animals to mess up the country. We are watching you. You tell every civil servant the government has no money for salary increaments and few days later you want to award yourselves millions. Mwalacimona. Katele no buloshi bobe ubwakwikala mu mpanga naubelama ati ba doctor. You are a bush doctor.
Certainly these are pure signs of the end of the feast. Looks like the end game is now certainly nearing. Chief bootlicker mulongoti issuing a statement against Levy? Where have you had that? This is pure defiance of Levy’s early decision. These guys want to bump up their gratuity before it is all over and they know the truth about Levy’s condition or Maureen has told them she is not going to allow the husband be presido again when he recovers. So the race is all to amass as much as you can.
I think this increment might bring problems.The timing is bad. What if hell breaks down! RB’s grip to power is delicate!!
aba Bama mbala nimbwalala chabe. Why do this in the abscence of LPM.yANGU EEEEEEEEEEEE.
Like one has already stated above since the President is in a STABLE CONDITION let cabinet wait for him to came and approve….
The circus continues! My observation in Zambia is that there are either very few or none at all people who are sincere in government. Majority of our politicians are poor chancers who are preoccupied with bread and butter issues as as the rest of us. As such they fail to be above board when it comes to matters of the nation, with them its about matters of their stomachs…somebody help us!
There is a coup in Mauratania, Aah!
even prayers have a time limit. I think lets pray with our eyes open and not the nonsensical pentecostal way of even closing our eyelids. When you close, the chaps in Cabinet are looting.Or may be we replace then continue praying?
Prof. I had a dream. That the sick one had woken up and was claiming to be president of French…after being taught how to speak…da,da,da,da,da,dadididaaa
Yes, true, if Levy is stable is will be coming can’t the pay rise approval await his return? JUst seen picture of bana Chipo in the Post, but is that what we want to see and hear, bana Chipo? The Post is digging very shallow these days inga kale and it was kafupi in hospital I would assure you they would have given his picture and told us in detail what was wrong as they would have had access to his medical file. Pali ba Levy its immoral, hey tables turn hey!
Perhaps it is time for Ministers to “PRAY” for their increment..seeing as we are praying for everything else!!!!
I agree, lets keep praying for the increment as well as the miraculous recovery!
Lord have mercy….Zambian fortune seekers at it again? greedy african politicians…when is enough ever enough? No wonder voting is a waste of time or rather a pipe dream for all those who think that our fortune seekers are in power to bring change …my foot? continue voting suckers! I guess i may have been right all along. The Lord has his own way of dealing with plunderers?
These *****s are funny. It has been the “prayers for LPM”, while they have been busy scheming fraud. They are so eager and in a hurry to “justify” the increment, but none of them is willing to let the nation know LPM’s actual condition – because they know.
There’s nothing wrong with an increment conducted in a civilised manner. When suggested to commence the processing of choosing a successor they all rose against him, because they knew. They needed time to scheme.
Number 23…include me on your prayer list? it is a pity that our country folk are more concerned about the welfare of one individual and football?
There is too much misbehaving and trying to milk the cream out of a FISH!!!
The Post stopped digging coupe months ago.
Any reasoning person knows that the proposed cabinet salary increments only tells you one thing – that Levy is not coming back. If they were expecting him back as they have been telling us over and over, they would not be behaving as they are doing now. The same chaps that claim it to be immoral to discuss levy’s illness now see it moral to increase their salaries while Levy (the head of cabinet is not only away but in hospital – SICK (AND VERY SICK I SHOULD THINK!). Shame on anyone in cabinet, parliament, public who thinks all is well. This is what we mean when we say there is a leadership vacuum in Zambia, a crisis, which Mulongoti was refuting. This is it!!!!
if it goes to parliament it will no doubt pass 100%.So why dont we all wait outside parliament since these guys represent us? done that before….and it worked.
I urge all my fellow soldiers, to rise to the occasion and claim our right. They are giving themselves huge salaries and there is no mention of us. These people we allow to rule us are not disciplined! Don’t we too need better salaries?
# 23 prof M W welcome back how have you been? were u studying? i hear they have ran out of titles to give and you are no Mr. kip it up man.
#23 Yes we should continue to pray with our eyes wide open lol
These guys are not serious. In a way, the know Levy is not coming back to office, how can you use such an argument? Its time MMD was kicked out of office.
THE REAL PIC OF BRITAIN (NO WONDER LEVY WAS TAKEN TO FRANCE INSTEAD)
The cleanliness of most NHS hospitals in England is threatened by frequent invasions of rats, fleas, bedbugs, flies and cockroaches, a report claims.
VERMIN IN HOSPITALS
Maggots in a patient’s slippers
Fleas in a neonatal unit
Sterile store infested with mice
Mouse droppings in a clinic
Do we have a leadership and constitutional crises? it is clear what happens if the president is legally declared incapacitated by the supreme court but It is not clear what happens before that. Suppose no cabinet minister moves a motion to request for a medical inquiry, does it mean the president continues ruling in absentia until his term ends. It is true that LPM is recovering. But it might be possible that the process of recovery can take two years. If this get to be the case the ministers from the family tree might oppose any move to initiate a process that can lead to declaring the president incapacitated. Is our constitution clear on time limits a president can be on sick leave.
We should take a leaf from Levy’s wife, Maureen, who appears to be preparing for life without or after Levy by stating that she is finding time to continue studying for her MBA while in France and her kids have returned home to school.
Why then should we be on “pause” when his own family is gradually moving on? They rightly realise they are in this for the long haul!
#39, Yaba yabipa no wonder Blair blew a fuse about the way his former Chancellor of the Exchequer is running the country. How are things up there hola?
George Owell…I praise you!
We are in a CRAZY world, please stay were you are!!!
#42 Hi Mwiinga.
It has been very tough for Gordon callig for him to resign.But I think in his case he has taken on Britain at its toughest time with all that is going on in the world economically.His own cabinet is divided while Labour keeps losing seats.
Hola #45, How is the outlook now, I have heard a few snippets about how tough it is going, and what happened to the scotland parliamentary seat which Labour lost recently, what was the issue, I think lyashi yaba Mwanawasa yayamba kunkala boring mwe.
Ka Ncule mulongoti is hiv position no wonder no sense is coming from his head.
Mwinga and 39, If UK is like that what about UTH and Liteta, yaba.
#48 At least we have always lived with these neighbours and unwanted visitors( rats and flies)but they (UK) always gives us a different pic.
This country is being led by corrupt leaders.. some in the name of Mulongoti, Shaka..,Mpombo ,etc,etc. Imagine these guys have awarded themselves over 350 percent increment.
Well, well,well we are watching them. The time will come when they will all be accountable for the looting of government coffers.
And Ba Maureen is busy utilising tax payers money, studying for her MBA abroad (France) – AIBT, whilst the husband is in the intensive Care Unit. Maybe she knows that as soon as LPM returns, the cabinet will be dissolved and fresh elections called.
Hola,although the report on cleanliness of UK hospital shows that 70% of UK hospitals are a little bit on the bad side most of them have good standards,i worked in about 3 major hospitals in London & standards were quite high by the contractor medirest who also do high class catering for the hospital but it is true some hospitals(minority)have poor standards.When i was a student,at times i raised fees by working as a Health Care Assistant in the NHS and at times went to the mortuary,you cannot tell where you are until you open a cooler unit & see bodies that you realise where you are,most hospitals i have been to are clean!
These chaps are stabbing LPM in the back.Why didn’t they convince LPM with same arguements,cowards! They have never stood with him all along, now that the man is sick its party time for them. The VP is a political lightweight to hundle seasoned crooks. Mr.Sata’s claims that LPM’s ministers feed him with wrong data in order to take advantage and make themselves rich. Change should be our new song…mark all those who shall vote in favour of this increment we need to vote them out.
Mayoooooooooo tafa kunoooooo! where is the Oasis Forum? these former plunderer are tring to capitalise on Levy’s illness by geting more money.
Fellow Zambians Levy is considerate remember he was not for the idea of increasing ministers salaries.
Why cant they wait, they know Levy’s condition, salary increament if anything more gratuity.
36. thank. 48 stop the UK crap. Mulongoti is a hypocrite. Recently I learnt the meaning of the word hypocrite — it is someone who kills both his parents and then pleads orphanage as a mitigating factor when being sentenced. And I not intend to use this word ever again!
It is just time for new faces everywhere
USA Mccaine vs Obama
UK Camerone vs Brown
Zambia HH vs Chirwa
The horror of hiding a lofty mountain
“48 stop the UK crap” baisa aba nsele
With the so many prevalages these political leaders have, they should hamble themselves, lead by example, learn to sucrifice and distribute national resouces to all when serving the people who elected them.
Shidada, kaya mwandi, Liteta that is by the road side, whatmore Chitambo Mission which is many miles from the roadside, Simwatacela 70 kilometers east of kalomo, Salujinga 106 kilometres from Mwinilunga Boma, imwe, fyashupa.
#57 Mwiinga who are the big players at the moment?
From my own analysis HH and Chirwa have what it takes.
Better we go for elections soon than this bul…. Mulongoti is saying & all the riffraffs in Govt.
Its clear aint coming & hopefully if he comes back its certain he aint goin rule.
From what I see, HH is quite big, MMD is difficult to read, as for PF, I think they lost the momentum they had after the 2011 election and quite honestly I doubt people are willing to give Mr Sata another chance, he blew it up in 2006 after messing up from covering the whole country which UPND is doing. MMD being the Power in Government, it might be quite difficult to dislodge them especially that this is Africa where people declared themselves winnere even when there was no opponent (Zimbabwe). But if HH plays it well, he will be a force to reckon with come 2011. This is how I read the situation, someone else might be reading it differently.
“after the 2011” should be 2001, apologies
oh dear,we are busy praying but they are busing discussing salary increaments. Am sure by the time we shall be saying amen the treasury will be empty.Yes # 23 we need to pray with our eyes open or should i say we need to watch and pray.
#62 Taking on Sata would be a bit risky because of his health people would not want to go through the Levy senario.Obviously HH has a good advisory team that will work towards removing the MMD out of power.Also I believe that with time comes different opportunities and chances.Look at Obama for example time has allowed him to be positioned in the right place.David Cameron is becoming popular as a result of time.I agree with you on PF that it lost its chance too.Who do you think would give HH a tough time?
Gud to know HH is still a threat,it’s time to do away with MMD,i got tired of MMD when the plunderers were readmitted,all we see are the same ghost faces in MMD and made worse by riff ruff funny faced nobodys like Mulongoti.Mpombo though being one of Levy’s buddies & holding that important office was a nobody before Levy remembered him,he used to frequent one local joint in Ndola with his massive beard & cheap attire,the chaps are livin’ it up now & want to take advantage of Levy’s illness to amass wealth now that we all smell elections as a result of Levy’s illness.
#64 Shhhh No one is supposed to say AMEN until the Ministers finish their perpertual prayers.LOL
Katele is being paying hide and seek here! Listen to his advise and I quote “Let everybody involved this explain to the people…” end of quote. He is just short of saying the increase is immoral.
Katele is playing hide and seek here! Listen to his advice and I quote “Let everybody involved in this explain to the people…” end of quote. He is just short of saying the increase is immoral.
Mulongoti,Mpombo,Shaka and the rest,who are you praying for?Is it LPM or the pay rise?It is my prayer that LPM will come in good health so that he can come and sort out you chaps
When the Europeans came to Africa, the said countinue praying and the got what they had put there hands on, Mulogoti and the team are doing the same, just pray,
Imagine even the lady who is suppose to help the husband, she is busy seeing opportunities and studying. What is the problem with this country?
Like Ohio the Copperbelt plays a major role in deciding who would be the next president.The same goes for Lusaka.I know the rural people can be just as stubborn so it might be a good thing start campaining in these key areas.
#64 ha ha ha “watch and pray” ha ha ha but imwe guys awe sure. Anyhow Hola and Zeddy, about the advisors for HH, they had not done a very good job about a month let me say just after Sata ‘reconciled’ with Levy because he came down on HIM not the issue HIM, Mr Sata as an indivudual which I think was a radical departure from the HH we know of politics of issues. Two incidents where I thought he was wrongly advised, when he was commenting on the ‘reconciliation’ and when he was commenting in the medical board, he attacked Mr Sata as a person not the issue, and unfortunately I am not the only one who thinks that way, I met a colleague at a wedding last weekend and he also said the same. But…
Mulongoti learn to keep shut! you and katele are bringing trouble. Is the Oasis forum around?
No1. You are the one simple and straight forward opinion.Keep such though floating. Isecond you. These chaps are very selective in their information they think we are going to be impressed with that news. If you comment on what does not fit them they will roar like thonder in protest. They will use words like “it’s bad timing” when you say they need to find a new leader for the party since the president is ill. How good is their increments in the absence of the president???? We are watching you guys.
Incompetent *****s! This makes Mai Kalange so mad!
#73, You should write your english properly. It is difficulty to understand what you are writing.
contd 73… I think compared to the number of times Mr Sata has attacked him as an individual and the times Mpombo and Mr Sata have been on each other’s throats, this is nothing. Secondly Mr Sata and PF are going for a convention I am not sure when, and we shall see how that turns out to be, already a scene such as the MMD 2000 convention where Miyanda, Nawakwi, in short non-third termers were thrown out might just resurface at that convention because the so called renegade MPs (NCC Participants) are already being warned especially Dr Chishimba (Kasama Central MP) who has declared he will take on Mr Sata for President of PF.
Yes Mwiinga,i saw the blunder by HH,he lost it also when he attacked The Post which is known to be the always against govt of the day and could help him unsit MMD.
I hope with time people will forget about that & see the positive side of having him as a national leader,he is the only one at the moment that is suitable for that position.What of Prof Chirwa,we don’t see much about him these days,has he given up after being intimidated by MMD big wigs,he is living it late to work on his foundation so that it is solid when campaigns are fully fledged,that is what caused Sata to lose but it was a blessing in disguise the Sata lost anyway.
#77 I do not understand, which part do you have difficulties understanding or are you refering to the fact that my thought was not complete. As you know we are open to continuous improvement please point out where I confused you with my submission
Hey, someone please give us the low-down on what Maureen was saying in the Post about the husband’s illness!
copperbelt deciding who wins was disproved last elections.HH is non starter. From the above story, LT is agaist MMD. Why don’t they anounce that civil sevants has salary incremint? MMD has the hart for the rural areas. Thats why they wan won.
Zeddy prof Chirwa I think is not a factor at the moment, the President himself made a comment about his ambitions and I think from that time on, he has slowed dowm if not stopped. The attack by HH on the post I think to some extent was justified, look just yesterday he was proding Government to mitigate the ever increasing fertiliser prices and that article was right inside the post not as headline not even a sub head on the front page. I am not implying everything he says should be headline news, but the chise of stories that constitute front page headlines in the post is what is questionable. And if the post is careful, I think it is time it started to make changes and give Mmembe a less..
Zambian first lady Maureen Mwanawasa has urged nationwide unity during absence of President Levy Mwanawasa and thanked Zambians for their love for the president, who has been in Paris for medical treatment since July 1, this year, according to The Post on Wednesday.
In an exclusive interview in Paris on Tuesday, Maureen said the love, respect and prayers that Zambians from all walks of life have shown and given to President Mwanawasa are a great source of encouragement and comfort to the family.
The Zambian newspaper quoted her as saying “I just want to say that President Mwanawasa’s illness has brought both sadness and joy.”
Maureen said calmly that “sadness in the s
sadness in the sense that he is a leader of our nation, and at a personal level he is a leader of our family; he is a husband, father and uncle. He is also a friend to so many people in Zambia and beyond our borders.”
His illness has brought sadness in the sense that he fell ill at the height of the peak of his leadership, when he has so many things to do for the country he holds in very high esteem. He is committed to the country, she said.
“His Presidency has put Zambia to where it was shortly after independence in terms of good governance, transparency and accountability. He has created a new breed of leadership in our country. In short, Zambia has become an icon on the co
continent,” she said.
However, Maureen said the unity that Zambians have displayed during President Mwanawasa’s illness is a source of joy.
“His illness brings joy in the sense that people have become more united than ever before,” Maureen said. “It is unprecedented that in the whole country, regardless of age or gender, people have prayed and have continued to pray for the recovery of President Mwanawasa.”
“This has helped the family to cope with the challenge that we face at the moment. I want to say that on behalf of the family, we are very grateful for the love that has been shown to President Mwanawasa during this trying moment,” the first lady said.
“I would like to urge all Zambians to continue praying because this is also testing the faith of our country since we are a Christian nation. I also want to say that God has got His own way and time of answering our prayers,” she said.
“I can only say that the government is responsible to report on the health of the President and this they have done adequately. He is the President of the country so government is responsible to report on his health.”
“All I can say is that the President is making satisfactory progress. We are grateful to the government of France for receiving him in their military hospital and the doctors and nurses are looking after him very well.
contd 83… prominence like what Bill Gates has done at microsoft. Secondly the post is quite biased, the same day they carried a story about HH he raised quite some pertinent issues such as what as an opposition party should he do more than lobby the Government and as you know Government money is spent at the pleasure of the Government of the day which they were attacking him about. And he challenged them to give justification why he should not start campaiging yet when Sata won the copperbelt in 2006, there were full of praise of how he started early. But where I agree with you is that he should be above that. If anything he is a shadow President who is above the Post.
#80. I am sorry, i did not mean to hurt you.
The President is responding to treatment. That is all I can say,” the First Lady continued.
Meanwhile, Maureen urged all Zambians to build on the unity, respect and love that have come to the fore during President Mwanawasa’s illness.
“During this period that President Mwanawasa is unwell, we hope that the unity that has been shown by Zambians can transcend through our party structures, can transcend through the government systems as a reflection for the respect and love that we have for the President,” Maureen said.
“One hopes that through that unity, love and respect, all organs that are mandated to govern our country should be able to carry on what they are suppose
supposed to do even if President Mwanawasa is not physically at home. The party and the government have got established structures of how work should be done. They should do it for him so that when he comes back home, he will be very proud to see that the party and the government have been able to continue with the work in his absence,” She added.
President Mwanawasa suffered a stroke on June 29 in Sharm-el-Sheik, Egypt where he was attending the African Union (AU) summit. He was admitted at Sharm-el-Sheik International Hospital and later was evacuated on July 1 to Percy Military Hospital in Paris, France where he is still admitted.
Thanks for the artivle Shidada!
Was hoping though, that more would be said about his condition (as in, he’s still in a coma)
Mwiinga,i now understand what the issue is,The Post can be so biased sometimes but that’s what all tabloids do,it was worse when M’membe was in the driving seat full time as he rode the way he liked especially being proprietor,he became Chiluba’s number one enemy,someone told me the grudge against Chiluba regarded a promised position in govt when MMD took over but he Chiluba did not honour his promise just like he did with Mahtani & the rest who helped the MMD come into power so the best way HH can do is play cool but it’s good he brought it out in the open so that The Post now know he knows what they play at,it’s evident they’ve not ”endorsed” HH,wonder if they prefer Sata.
*article
Mulongoti weka nculewe you should remember that the position is temporal when the apponting authority comes you out of there faster you wont even enjoy your increments
#89, no no! I just wanted to ensure that when I post something I am not misquoted out of context that is why I asked, do not worry criticism is good, just this year, after doing my perfromance appraisal, my boss suggested I improve my writing skills so you are within the critique.
The Post is meant to be sold.
You are a regular blogger Mr. Mwiinga.Which topics on LT receives more public visits? Scandles,etc.
Pule Marrying,Mmembe suing Pule,Mbesuma Drinking habits.
Things like “Hospital Opened in Shangombo” wont make the Post sell.
Even you Aisha,you get attracted to such headlines not those developmental ones.Thats are fact Mwana.Start changing your attitude first.OK, young man.
…The govt should give an update? Who else is allowed at the bedside save her excellency and close relatives?
Not even the hospital director has been allowed to comment.
We also pray that you excel in your MBA studies in France…
Zeddy #93, my gut tells me if they had a way they would prefer their lawyer Sakwiba Sikota but unfortunately the gentleman does not appeal to the general public and is a difficult sale. You Sakwiba suffers the same problem as Mbeki, he does not connect with the common man which is important in politics. His accent is not Lozi, so how do people connect and he rarely speaks any other zambian language in public, which HH has learnt quickly, you see in politics you just have to somehow establish contact with the people (even if its fake like Chiluba did) which Sakwiba has failed terribly. Sata and Chiluba according to the post are one and the same.
Paul M, she seems up beat, she said only the government can speak on his condition. By the way, RP has appointed George Mpombo as leader of the house (parliament) since RB is acting. These guys know what they are doing.
Yesterday post online switched maureen picture. The first one she was looking somber and the second one she was encouraging. I guess somebody was not happy with the first one, because it was not upbeat.
Hey u fools the topic is about new salaries for ka Ncule mulongoti and his minions not Hakaivotile Himwine(HH) who is only known to some pipo on this blog! The majority of us dont even know that his exist. Be real men and discuss the issue at hand.
Man of manth, I agree with you. I am a journalist in finance and economics, most people don’t read that stuff. They like social, scandal etc. Why to you think being a Paparazi is big bussiness? Its only human nature, I agree with you, look at the response on LT on stories on sex, divorce etc.
#97 “man of the month” interesting name reminds me of a movie I watched about robin williams called “man of the year”, yes I agree “ba mudala”, but let me tell you something which I have observed, do you know that the Tuesday post has more market than any other day and this is not based on a scientific finding but just my observation and asking around most people say because of the articles by Chibamba of talking business. The basic idea is that politics is okey, but it should not be a lifeline, you would imagine how they felt when Mr Sata ‘reconciled’ with Mr LPM, I am sure they felt like one of their lungs had been punctured.
#99 Mwiinga
Does Sakwiba sound aloof or has he just got a foreign accent?
Maybe by not speaking a Zambian language he wants to appear neutral don’t you thik so?
Zambian In Sydney & Mwiinga, hearts off to you guys for the maturity in your arguments. #97, you have a point there, the Post is meant to be sold and thats why they always try to bring very controversial issues. However, I think sometimes they cross the line in their reporting and instead of being objective as they claim, they tend to show a certain degree of hatred towards some individuals. A week torwards the 2006 they openly, without pretending, decampaigned Sata. Recently, they have seemingly been attacking HH openly and to a certain extent, I think he also did well to let them know he was aware of this. Point being, as much as they try to maximise profit, they shouldnt be seen to demoni
Bloggers, a low down on Mrs Chuchus interview in my newspaper. Reading between the lines she appears to have acknowledged that Levy will be on the sidelines for a long time. She has confidence in the gov and she would like to appear as though she is not influencing things. I applaud her on the determination to get through the the MBA in two months remaining of her semester, another, indication she won’t be coming back home shortly, would want sometime away as is the case now.
Maybe #105 he wants to appear neutral but unfortunately the public buyer out there does not seem to think so, anyhow there is something about him which makes him anmarketable. About the scandals selling, I am not very sure we adopted the tabloid concept very well if that is going to be our focus as a nation
I think Sakwiba is a nice guy, as students we invited him to speak to us at Evelyn Hone, he was chairman of LAZ. I said before on this forum that if you can’t speak Nyanja or Bemba especially Bemba, your chances for Plot 1 are slim. That is why Sata is so popular in Lusaka and CB, he speaks the language of the masses. Look at Zuma, that is why he beat Mbeki who quotes Shakespeare. You think ordinary people care about shakespeare? Sakwiba must start speaking street slang. Chiluba was good at it. KK spoke Bemba so does Levy. Nothing tribal in this.
we are heading for disaster…..Auto pilot has a maulfunction!!!!!!fasten your seat belts my fellow zambians twafwa!!!!!!ichalo ofo chi pwa ififine!!!
Spot on my brother/sister Shidada, like i mentione i think on a different topic Chiluba played to the gallery and up to now Chiluba could still be the most popular president to lead this country among the two (post one party participatory and he might be more likeable by many as a person than most people
Cont#106 to demonise anyone where its not even justifiable to do so. We support the post because indeed they bring out several serious issues for the benefit of Zambia, e.g The Chiluba theft case, Bulaya and several others, but definitely it doesnt mean that when they lose it we should close our eyes.
109, Shidada right on the spot! Leaders who associate and mingle with commoners tend to be popular and easily win elections, if free and fair.
Sata is popular because he aligns himself with the masses and he understands their problems, same thing we saw in Fred – put aside his misrule.
Anyway Lawyers tend to be pompous and argumentative so I wouldn’t be surprised if Sakwiba is like that.
I think the Post is more like the Inquirer an American tabloid.It seems they only want to make money on other people’s shortcomings .
#71 Im not so good at following the stories in the newspapers what is Maureen studying?.
#115 (Truthful Lozi) MBA that is what she is studying
this issue of salary increment is very sensitive. what do you think the poorly paid police man, soldier, doctor and security operative thinking when they see this? for those of you who do not know most police men and soldiers up to colonel level voted PF in the last election because of a feeling that LPM and his MMd did not care for them, and now they give themselves such huge pay rises. What a bunch of miscreants!!
Zeddy good idea why dont we all on a go slow after all there is no presido for us to get into trouble if people can award themesleves hefty allowances
Back to Salary increment. One would be of the opnion that GRZ is being insensetive to current delicate situation esp regarding LPM illness.
GRZ does not want to antagonise the general populase at this stage with semi delegated authority to Mr Lupiya Banda. If Lupiya has no powers to reject these pay raise which LPM rejected…let him come in the open rather than refer the matter to parli. I gather thru the press that Mpombo will run the affairs of the House now.
In any case Lupiya is accountability for managing GRZ. By the way Mulongoti is sounding, it appear this salary increment is a done deal. Where is the opposition, NGO? ZCTU?. We need oraginsed approach to managing GRZ.
Hikaumba and his ZCTU have already been sorted, this is a scam!!!
# 12. Zambia first.
Well said.
Corruption is out of fashion now with PLM. Now it is hefty payrises, unbelivable allawances, miracle loans, free fuel for GRZ’s top tier. Zambian MPs want the same living and operating costs as British and other western MPs while their subjects wallow in poverty, very few developmental goals have been archived if any. It is ony high demand for copper that is sustaining the nation. These MPs we call leaders are doing nothing to boost zambias industrial capacity. To them money from copper is inexustable mana from heaven to be enjoyed. The UK is now lamenting the wasted oppotunity that was the wealth that was avalilable from their now depleted oil deposits.
# And what has happened to all those groups that came with fire against the third term?
The Prophet says that the doctors have informed the First Lady and she in turn has informed her closest confidants in the Cabinet that when the President suffered the second stroke there was bleeding, this in medical terms is called a subarachnoid haemorrhage which is a bleed in the so-called subarachnoid space, this is the very small space between the brain and the skull, and which contains blood vessels that supply the brain. The cause of the bleeding usually is a rupture of a bulge in one of these vessels. This bulging or blister on a vessel is called an aneurysm. A subarachnoid haemorrhage is a relatively uncommon type of stroke; it accounts for about one in 20 (5%) of all strokes. Suba
Subarachnoid haemorrhage often occurs at a relatively young age: half the patients are younger than 55 years old. The outcome of patients after subarachnoid haemorrhage is generally poor: half the patients die within one month after the haemorrhage, and of those who survive the initial month, the majority remain dependent on someone else for help with activities of daily living (e.g. walking, dressing, bathing). One of the causes of poor outcome is a complication of subarachnoid haemorrhage called secondary ischaemia (ischaemia means lack of blood). This complication occurs four to 10 days (hence secondary) after the haemorrhage. The President currently is on life support, no time frame can
nor can it be certain if and when the doctors will declare him fit to travel.
sorry that should read: no time frame can be given, nor can it be certain if and when the doctors will declare him fit to travel.
There are no Unions in Zambia anymore. Not even UNZASU. The Country has gone to the dogs or is it that the dogs have gone to Sambia?
For your information..Mmembe is related to Sakwiba.
Politicians are all the same everywhere! They just keep on spending,spending…while poor pipo keep tightening their budgets every day!
This simple fact will never change! So better trust no politician and work hard to feed your family.
I hate to say it but Mulongoti’s smile in the picture above makes me sick. Seeing a thief stealing my hard earned cash is horrible.
#103 (Shidada) cool it bro, don’t give away your identity that easily. Read your posting again and you will see it’s a dead give away! Perhaps I am biased, since I know who you are. Okay before you come out with your guns blazing, I suggest you take it in stride and have drink on me at your favorite pub in Windhoek!
lets pray with eyes open and heads up..coz its leaking some were in zambia,by the time we say amen,,parly will be on break and lpm will be declared invalid
#122 Caesar those that I can remember Christon Tembo (finished), Edith Nawakwi (Finished), Godfrey Miyanda (finished), Ernest Mwansa (PF), Newton Ng’uni (No more politics eating well at NCC and Interparty dialogue), Sejani (UPND) these are the few of the 22 I can remember.
EP #130 just shut yp. he not the one who asked to increase salary. its the law. what about civil sivants. even money for mps is included in the pakarge.
#128 EP, I was avoiding mentioning that because of my political alignment, now that you have mentioned it, I guess it is now public information and we can comment on it.
Do any of these so-called donors approve of how their own taxpayers’ hard-earned money is being spent – to pay hefty salaries to corrupt Zambian leaders? If they do, then they are equally complicit in the suffering of the majority of our people and should stop all nonsense of denouncing the Chinese in Zambia. They have miserably failed in their doomed backing of the Task Force on Corruption which has instead been turned into a tool for masking the very corruption it is intended to fight! What has happened to Zambians?
All this rubbish going on right under our noses and not a single voice to stand up and call an end to this nonsense? What ever happened to the labour movement? What about the forever downtrodden civil servants? Are you all happy? Unbelievable! It is true every nation deserves the leadership it elects into office!! Go on suffering; you are used! You can’t tell me a bunch of buffoons in the likes of Mulongoti and the rest have you so confused you can’t stand up to any of them?
Is fatness a serious diseases or not. Fatness does not kill fast but causes a lot of expensive diseases and yet Zambians ignore it. Just like HIV/AIDS fatness will be the next killer of the the educated in Zambia, because some power educated Zambians think fatness is equal to status without knowing that people are laughing at them when they attend international conferences surrounded by moderate health leaders.
#129 infortunately they are the same ones that provide the enironment to enable us work for out families and currently that environment is not there, so they are an evil we have to deal with.
Eagle #137 kwena wa zanda, but not to worry every dog has its day and Kaunda was shocked when that day arrived.
Is there a disease called fatness? Never heard of it!
131, go ahead and identify me.
#141 in the same breath is Obesity a disease? if it is then maybe abena #138 was refering to that.
#142 ain’t the one they were chasing for failure to pay 50 kwacha on a bus to John Howard (LOL)[kidding]
140. Mwiinga, it is so infuriating my dear that after what we went thru to bring about what many of us thought would be true democracy, as you know, a rare phenomenon on the continent, we should have the country dragged down in this manner! My heart bleeds! I had so much hope and many of us gave so much of our time and money to the original MMD just to see it crumble and fall and be hijacked by these sycophants! But I hear you; every dog has his day. This may well be the darkest hour before the dawn.
#143 Whatever.
I WONDER WHAT’S HAPPENING, TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THESE PEOPLE ARE BUSY MANUFACTURING GOLDEN PARACHUTES SINCE THEY KNOW LEVY IS NOT COMING BACK. WHO WOULD DARE TO DO SUCH A THING IF THEY KNEW LEVY WAS COMING BACK , MULONGOTI? I DON’T THINK SO. THEY ARE SECURING THEIR EXIT PERIOD.
#145, true to that, I remember then I was in form 4 or grade 11, and we would ask for special permission to go and see Chiluba when he was addressing the public, and what a shame, we lost 10 good years of development as a country. This is definitely not what we were spending nights outside ensuring that Kaunda was booted out now we have more educated people and in 15 years the country has only managed 2% of what kaunda managed in 27 years with a cabinet that was not educated, shame on us as a country.
#133 Mwiinga, Not really those individuals, I remember the students were very instrumental then, not only UNZA, but even NRDC, Hone, CBU, and then there were NGOs, and other Unions as well.
I have also been wondering whether the Oasis forum still exists or it died down the moment LPM decided to apease all the lawyers with hefty allowances in the name of Non Practising. Hey lawyers dont take offence but I think what is happening now is exactly what calls for nationwide action. We may realise when its too late? #128 EP is that reliable information? Am tempted to believe you though.
#145 Eagle-o1. first, dont think that mmd is daed. it is you who is dead politicaly.mmd supports grass root people. people people people people. just because you are in America? what democracy. cant you see that we ar
Mulongoti is an interesting specimen! He lacks the simplest of PR skills and opens his mouth without putting much thought into it. First, he keeps the nation & world @ large in the dark about Levy’s specific condition, in the mean time cabinet quickly tries to push for salary increments in Levy’s absence. What message r u sending to the outside world? I think it’s actually better for Mulongoti to keep his trap shut to save us the agony of having to listen to his trash…!
Let them enjoy,they are our leaders.
Do you know that on 27 July Ivory Coast halved salaries of Ministers (check BBC and VOA) to cushion the public of the effects of the continued rise in fuel, meanwhile ours are increasing their salaries. We truly need a new breed and not these corrupted vultures.
Anyway, at least we all know the true man behind Rupiah Banda.
Why cant we temporarily allow super Ken to lead the nation. One month will be enough to sort out these guys. Anso… kuti abachita ububi. They can all be arrested.
The word “STABLE” has began soundin’ to me lyk an insult..Plz stop usin’ it!!if LPM is stable, lyk they r sayin’,y is he still admitted..The man is still in a critical condition!!Thats y ba mambala wants to make ama increments.They know that he is not comin’ baq-thats y they wanna utilise the opportunity,which myt come once in their lyf tym..
You Zambians take it easy LPM is getting better by the day, by the way he no longer uses an machines to breath and eat. The guy just needs some time to come back to normal. Trust me when he comes back he gonna just say hhhhhhhhheeeeeee nnnnnooooooo saaaa s s s salary increament as for now. PERIOD!!!!
#153 I also heard that, you know west and east africa, I think when it comes to vigilance, they are very vigilant about what is going on around them, in Souther Africa it is only RSA and that is also heavily influenced by the fact that it is a new country and have a background of vigilance, once this crop of leaders is gone RSA will join the rest of us suffering in peace.
IF LPm is coming back to power i swear MUlongoti will be fired indeffinately!!!! i bet $100 on that…this dude has been a dissapointment to the nation!!!we dont need such *****s ..ba mwisho balekwishila webo ukalalondola labilenichabe labilenichabe !!!!!
Ba Ben Tentamashimba to quite ,is he around or is he afraid of being hit?Say something sir
Fellow Zambians, is there a forum – other than the current ones – we can use to voice our displeasure in the manner in which our rulers are governing us? This is getting out of hand now. We have country without a commander-in-chief for four weeks now! These people are crazy and they must be told so to their faces.
Maureen put it out there for any body to analyse. Its getting her seeing a person in a coma day in and day out. She has decide to lead a normal life by going back to school. When she is done with her MBA program Levy will still be in a coma</em.
Shidada also #142, keep ‘Monitor’ing the space…he he he
You see with the uninformed electorate, we have thieves like katele kalumba mustabating over the nations money.. He should be in court, instead the the illinfromed pipo voted him in. We are stuck with a gang of mostly thieves because of our uninformed voting countrymen. They are like moneys in a maize field these MPs. With his history, katele should be the last one commenting on how to spend nations money. Instead he has the aduscity to incourage the pay rise. Until the swamp is drained(paraliment), by vetting who can be voted in, every thing else is doomed. We will not controll the mismangement.. How can u controll missmangment when u bring in thievs and failers to manage.
I have noticed people calling out individuals to lead them .Any body who is ordinary can do extraordinay actions. Some time back there was a law student who sued Chuluba – if my memory serves right. I am not in Zambia right now ,but if was I would start with at grassroot level and mobilize a campaign to hold a demo at the freedom statue.
You know guys, whilst we can make ourselves feel better by sharing what we feel on this forum (which is good) nothing will change the way our country is governed untill we decide to stop being docile and always wait for someone else to act. Mwiinga, u r right about our lack of vigilance, but much more importantly action after observing an anomaly. The Ivorians just went on strike till the government had to act. Am not being pesimistic, but am yet to find a leader who will bring about that radical change that we so badly need. Therefore, that just leaves you and me to make that positive change
#160, Teta was on monday 19:00hrs news defending the increment. Once in a while Teta can make useful contributions but generally he is a vulture at heart and one of the worst bootlickers Zambia has seen.
Maureen will tell us about lpm condition after she is done with studying.she wants to finsh with her studies before they move out of state house.
Dreamer 24 i also had a dream that people were roiting in zambia.
animal farm at its best, is all i can say about zambia
End of the day, the people that really matter in government are PSs and the Secretary to Cabinet. These work and would deserve to be paid the new salaries. Besides, Chief Executives of parastatals i.e. Zesco, Napsa, RDA, BoZ and government agencies such as ACC and DEC that they supervise get K20m – K50m+ etc and nobody complaint. Its only right that they are paid according to the responsibilities that are afforded to them.
I also hope civil servants salaries will also be hiked soon.
And always remember the root cause of corruption, its poverty.
#171, I do not agree with you, The root cause of corruption is greed and corrupted morals. No matter how much you pay a greedy person, it will never be enough, they will always want more.
New photo of maureen in the post.why did they remove the one which was there?Ati in front of her apartment.Their even renting an apartment for her.Kwena you can only find such things pa zed.There is even a post reporter pa france kanshi.Reporter tell us about levy’s condition.Did you just go there to interview maureen or you are based pa france
#134- You have no right to tell me to shut up. I’m at liberty to critic what i see as wrongs in my country. I pay tax and to fund such huge unexplainable salary increment is out of question for me. Look at the state of our needy areas. You say its the law. Which law say they should increase salaries by over 200% and yet civil servants are given 15%?
#149- That info is reliable- see also posting #135.
Mulongoti don’t take our quietness for granted. Remember there has been a coup in Mauritania this morning. You should not push us too far.
Mwiinga # 62,
Indeed you are looking at issues from a misleading window.FYI, Zambia has never given her Presidency to candiadtes who have emerged on the platform of tribal conspiracy as it were in replacing late Andy Mazoka Mwanamubotu.There are preceedences to the hichilema saga. This said, as a matter of realism the brother has a kilimanjalo to overcome besides not being a politician.The Tribal tag is life time in the Zambia politics.Its a hard stigma to sanitize oneself from.It sticks irrespective how rich a candidate is.Certainly Another tonga may rule but i doubt for HH who sold on the “Tonga only for President Stamp”.
With Levy or No Levy we shall get back what these evil men are trying to steal from the suffering masses.This is not Zimbabwe.
Were can i find The Mulemena Boys music on CD?,thanks.
#178, long time I man search for the same CD too.
I sincerely pray that all of us here are multi-tasked beings tangibly productive in our respective jurisdictions.Life is dynamic and not waiting for those misapplying their time to finish rhetorical undertakings.Own Children are growing up maybe without a maturing education fund in some securities, age is catching up and family responsibilities are exponentially mounting while blogging is taking a toll.A frequency Distribution in IP entries of some individuals is worrying.Be advised that unless you build critical mass on the ground, no Government has been born out of blog verbatims.A look at the server has 96% of this blogging traffic as verifiably Diaspora based.
The very moment lies started,thats when the drama began.What a trck,watta scam……..Mulogoti must be listening to 50 Cents´s song which i figure out could be no other than Get Rich or Die trying!!!The timming itself is no gud.
When a bomb explodes,mostly it doesn´t just use it´s target and many suffer.What happened just yesterday in Western Africa close to Senegal?Why just talk bout the increaments and not showing us pictures of LPM and talk about that?When the cat is away….you can see rats that could even weigh 2 kilos running around.
#176, I totally agree with you. Having related with HH before he became a politician, am convinced he is not tribal and is sincere. Unfortunately, he replaced Andy based on what many view as a tribal line. This was made worse by some utterances of some key officials in UPND and eventually the departure of certain individuals from the party, sealed the tag. Unfortunately for him he does not have the OBAMA charisma which would have easily made people forget about the tag. He speaks sense but does not easily connect with people at an emotional level. charisma is important, look at how sata managed to make people forget all ills he had done during 3rd term debate
Prof Mutengo Waminga LLB (UNZA) LLM, MA PHD (Oxford) …good seeing you here after a while, mwenze kuti? Have you also been STABLE?
Anyway, what we’re dealing with is a bunch of thieving and insensitive retards passing themselves off as a government. What are they governing by increasing their wages while millions still can’t access medicare, education and pension? We’re too docile … after two weeks, these chaps will be rolling around in their VX, pushing trollies in Shoprite and insulting us with their speeches.
F*CK U MULONGOTI. AND ALL YO SUPPORTING HIM.
THIS ISSUE REALLY STINKS, WHY USE RB TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT REFUSED TO APPROVE? MULOGOTI WORSHIPS LPM WE ALL KNOW THAT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE SEES IT FIT TO DISREGARD HIS PRESIDENT WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING REPREMANDED WHEN HIS EXCELLANCE RETAINS?
GUYS IF WE DON’T WAKE UP AND ACT THESE PIPO ARE GONNA LOOT THE COUNTRY AND ALL THAT LEVY HAS WORKED SO HAD TO BUILD AGAINST VERY HARSH CONDITIONS WILL BE LOST IN A MATTER OF MONTHS
There is a rumour that LMP’s body guards are back in da Zed. Does this mean there is no longer anything to guard?
If Levy did not approve this then he will not be happy on his return. May be the Govnt should tell us the true condition of the president. May they know he may not come back to lead again so the are not worried about their jobs upon his return. This is why people are demanding for the pictures or updates right from the doctors to allay all the doubts. In my view their courage to approve these salaries without fear of their boss may be proof enough that the presdo may not be all that good. We may as well call off the prayers.
Whys is VJ supporting the increaments too?is he coming back to rig for them again??
#178 & 179- The CD’s are available from Mondo music and sounds Zambia. Grab yourself a copy. If you are in the diaspora try online payment. Gud luck.
#188. I am with you let us just concetrate on preparing for elections in 4 1/2 months to come, let us forget about the squabling. For those of us praying for LPM, let us pray hard that he makes it within this period, otherwise he is out of the seat in accordance with Article 38 of the Zambian Constitution.
#186. Do you know that RB has powers as Acting President to do anything except to disolve National Assembly and or revolking any appointment made by LPM without advise by Cabinet.
#190 Thanks…
#187 its a very strong rumour from highly placed sources. The body guards cameback some time back. indeed there is nothing to guard.
What kind of blogging is this, you all been blogging without my permission. Now that I am Back, go ahead.
187, 197. The president is in a military hosipital in France, what do you expect them to guard. Mwanawasa is not George Bush, who would want to kill him? Please stop these no sense theories.
where is Sunkutu? Have you guys noticed that ever since I exposed, he either has gone underground or blogging under a different name. But the truth will come out.
The economic indicators have continued to reflect non divergence kind of direction. With or wihout the President, the country continues to perform as it was before the President went ill. What does this indicate? It is either, the current leadership set up is doing a good job or we have been in auto pilot long before the Presidents illnes or what?
The horror of hiding a lofty mountain. how long will they hide Chuchu’s illness? In modern-day society, it is generally agreed and viewed that democracy is the best system of governance but, as even Aristotle admitted centuries ago, it has its own shortcomings. And Zambia has plenty of shortcomings as been seen over the past five weeks.
After second thoughts, I think the salary increment for constitutional officers are justified. The problem is we blind to the fact that the ministers have had no increment for a long time,.
Indeed Prof, what is important is that the security wings are on high alert and the vultures are kept aloof. There are many vultures seeking to take opportunity, others seeking relief from prosecution, others seeking continuation of immoral privelages and advantages.
How can a begger seek justice in this immoral world. Many blindly support Politicians ready to do thier bidding at the slightest intimation of duty. They carry burdens supported on the shoulders of an euphoria of a better life not minding the present cost.
Can someone with balls enough stand up and lead zambia in the absencs of LPM. Money Banda has no balls to lead a nation. Kaleya mukwi paya Imbeba Ku chipata. cabinet should not take Zed people for granted, there are so many ways of taking out the government. If they dont want a coup they should respect themselves. People are suffering and they want to start pocketing 15% of their salaries. That 15% i suggest to be put into some project. There is much to be done pa Zed, using the some money maybe in 2 -5years we can even buid some roads, schools , hospitals and other things.
If LPM was a good leader,we wouldn’t be having this circus we have today.He made sure that he surrounded himself with useless people so that he can look better than them in his abscence.Remember he picked all these people,RB,Mulo,Teta etc.So you must all direct your condmnations on the head,which is LPM!!
If Levy has not approved this increament and the ministers are this arrogant to have an increament at whatever cost without fearing for their jobs, then i doubt the recovery of Mwanawasa. These guys are hiding the true condition of LPM to the nation but this courage to go against levy just proves that the man may never come back to rule. They are encouraging us to pray for him why they are busy plundering the resources. This courage is a sure sign that LPM is not fit to rule again. Then we can as well quit praying and start looking for ways of survival since we get ****ts as salaries. May God judge you!
Guys what is the history of HH anyone ?? Can some one tell some of us who do not know about him. Is he a grad ?, is he from bussiness ?
Many thanxx
One of the stories I have read is one to do with The Seven Voyages of Sinbad the Sailor to real and mystical lands. On his Fifth Voyage, Sinbad was shipwrecked on an island where he met an old man lying on the ground who implored the adventurer to carry him across a nearby stream.
Sinbad obliged and put the old man on his back. The old man twisted his arms and legs around Sinbad’s neck and waist and when they crossed the stream he refused to get down. That is what MMD has done. They will not let us remove Chuchu even if he is dadadadadadadada!
Proffff! welcome back prof Mutengo Waminga we miss your wisdom.
15% pay rise should not be an issue especially that it is the same with the civil service % pay rise and also because it is just 2-3% above the inflation rate. It is a reasonable pay rise and everyone should support it. It shows the government is considerate. I support government for this considered pay rise.
We are tired of people just condeming for the sake of condeming. Gone are the days where pay rise is a guess work, follow world standards/considerations.
I wonder what the soldiers have been given…? Uuummmm!
are we all going to benefit from those salary increaments
Discussion closed.
This is the problem with zambian MPs and the so called ministers, all they are interested in is to insure they reap the tax payers, money even when they are not doing a good job. You people you want a pay rise, can you tell the nation what you have done for this country to deserve a pay rise. What the nation needs to do is to cut some of your benefits instead. Parliamentarians should be forcusing on the developmental debates and not salary increments coz these chaps already live in luxury. Please MPs concentrate on finding developmental programmes.
Zeddy I concur with with. Mulongoti came from being a shelf packer in ZCBC – so his c.v. has “merchandize packer” on it, so what can you expect from such caliber. What is is really going on in Zambia is “sangwapo” and it is a shame. Some of us want to come back home and contribute, but when you think of all that is going on, we are so discouraged. We want to hear of positive things.
This man is chief bootlicker. At one time before he become cabinet Minister, i was so broke that, his Lodge in Kabulanga was grabbed by the pipo he owed money. Most of the time the man used to be found at Cummies drinking cheap spirits. What do you expect from such a person. He is so drunk with power that he has fogotten what befail him. As long as we have such leaders, the country can not move forward.
The comparison between Zambia and other countries in the region eg South Africa, Namibia,Botswana etc which are economically performing well as a justification for salary increase by our ministers, mps and constitutional office holders by Mulongoti is childish. And in any case managers in the corporate get more money than the State president. In USA Bill Gates, Donald Trump, name them make more money than their president. Mulongoti do not create skeletons that will haunt you after public office
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