It was with great sadness that the Zambian people learnt that President Mwanawasa had died
on the 19th August. It has been a great mystery and many people at this time are perplexed about what exactly happened to President Mwanawasa. Many wonder what doctors meant when they said the president was STABLE.This word was used so often to describe our late presidents condition whilst in ICU in France.
Out of this tragedy it is prudent that something good comes out of it.Perhaps future presidents should have better medical advisors? However, if a president can die from a stroke, where does that leave the ordinary citizen? Should we be scared when doctors start describing us as stable when we do fall sick? Lets answer a few questions that will give us an understanding as to what happened to our president in France and how we can prevent that happening to us.
Q1. What is a stroke?
A stroke happens when there is a problem with the blood supply to a part of the brain. The area of the brain that does not get enough blood becomes damaged.
A stroke can happen when a blood clot blocks an artery in the brain. A stroke also can happen when the wall of an artery bursts.
Depending on which part of the brain has poor blood supply, a stroke can be mild to severe. It appears our President had a severe stroke.
Q2. What were the likely triggers to President Mwanawasas stroke in Egypt?
– Should the President have been allowed to fly? The oxygen pressure during a flight is lower than that at sea level, so there is a theoretical risk that someone who has recently had a stroke might be harmed by flying. This is because there is a risk of developing deep vein thrombosis ( blood clots). However there is no absolute medical ban on flying for people who have had strokes before. It is however said prior to his death, the President did do quite a bit of traveling. Perhaps that was not a good idea in hind sight. His long flight to Egypyt may have been the last straw.
-Another risk factor for stroke is stress. This may have played a role in the Presidents demise.
-We do know that the President had at least one prior stroke. When a person has one stroke the chances of having a second stroke are increased. The subsequent stroke may leave one with a lot more disability. For example, if you have right-sided stroke and then go on to have a stroke on the other side of the brain, you may have both your right and left side impaired.There are ways however to reduce the risk of recurrence of the stroke.
Q2. How can one avoid having a stroke?
The most important stroke prevention strategies are:
Control High Blood Pressure.
Eat a balanced diet, maintain a healthy weight, and exercise to reduce blood pressure. Drugs are also available.
Don’t Smoke
Not smoking reduces your risk of stroke.
Manage Heart Disease (heart disease can cause blood clots that find their way to the brain)
Doctors can treat heart disease and may prescribe medication to help prevent the formation of clots. People over 50 should consult their doctors about aspirin therapy.
Control Diabetes
Both diabetes and high blood pressure can be managed with diet, exercise, weight control and medication. Strict control of blood sugar levels may reduce damage to the brain if a stroke occurs.
Manage Cholesterol
Everyone should know his or her cholesterol level. Even though high cholesterol may be a more important risk factor for heart attack, it also is a stroke risk factor that should be treated.
Maintain a Healthy Weight
Being overweight contributes to other risk factors for stroke such as high blood pressure, cardiovascular(heart) disease and diabetes. Losing as little as 5kg may lower blood pressure and improve cholesterol levels.
Exercise Regularly
Aerobic exercise reduces your risk of stroke by lowering blood pressure, increasing the level of HDL cholesterol(good cholesterol), and improving the overall health of blood vessels and heart. It also helps with weight reduction and diabetes control, and can reduce stress.
Manage Stress
Stress can cause a temporary spike in blood pressure – a risk factor for brain hemorrhage – or long-lasting hypertension. It can also increase the blood’s tendency to clot, which may elevate the risk of stroke. Exercising and using relaxation techniques are good approaches to stress reduction.
By medical correspondent
I am listerning to processions on QFM online its so sad i can hear people crying its really sad we have lost a leader
Why wait for him die??????If you knew all this why did you advise him you fools??? Im sure any president have one of the best doctors so are you saying that his doctor was not good enough??? Spare us the nonsence!!!!!!!!
This thread is way off the mark. We obviously dont have answers to the above and are so eager to know what cost LPM his life. But delve into the last moments of his life as you are suggesting will be highly speculative and bias. LPM had both diabetes and stroke and that clearly put him in harms way. MHSRIP.
This msg is late to save LPM however, its good for us that are still alive
What is the website address for QFM online BCOZ ZNBC TV is no longer online?
Bear in mind that the Prez had been involved in a car accident which may have caused some damage to his brain.
maureen should have been the best person to advise levy to step in down in the intrest of his health,,all the advisors in goverment what were they doing protecting thier jobs,,if pipo like mpombo could kneel in front of the nations tell u hw inhuman these pipo were,,they left lvey suffer the 1st stroke and let him go gone for the 2nd one,,today we recieve him in a casket,,shame to all our zambian learders
This is a lot of nonsense. Please go and parade your medical knowledge in some public health project that will save lives. I regret having bothered to read the few lines I read. I thought it was a descriptive piece on what went on during the management of Levy’s condition. You try too hard to sound clever you can’t be a more qualified medic. Sorry to dis you!
Levy knew his health condition better that anyone else. He stubbornly refused to step down….Maybe he should have listened to other people’s advise. MHSRIP…..
Its a pity there was no one to advise the president on his health. Propounding what may cause a stroke at this particular moment is pointless, lest you tell us the doctors sacrificed LPM. I do not even understand why the president always traveled when he could also send a deligate to these international meetings. Its too late anyway! M.H.S.R.I.P.
No 7 I agree with you….Maureen and LPM himself are to blame for this!! No one apart from them could have made the right decision for sake of their family. I think they become too greed that is why they gave it another try after ruling for 5 year but then this is the end result.SHAME ON BOTH OF THEM…
maureen aurait dû être la meilleure personne pour conseiller prélèvement à pas dans dans l’intérêt de sa santé, tous les conseillers du gouvernement quelles sont-ils la protection de leurs emplois, comme si Pipo mpombo pourrait s’agenouiller devant les nations dites et hw Pipo ces inhumains ont été, ils sont partis lvey souffrent le 1er temps et laissez-le aller parti pour la 2e, aujourd’hui nous recevons de lui dans un cercueil, honte à tous nos zambien learders
Facts About Stroke & Coma
STROKE AND COMA –BRIEF MEDICAL FACTS
A Stroke
Of the 4 types of stroke, (Hemisphere, Pontine, Mid-brain and Cerebellar strokes/ – also classified as Ischemic, thrombotic, embolic and hemorrhagic strokes), the Mid-brain stroke is associated with brain haemorrhage and consequent coma.
A stroke is a medical emergency and can cause permanent neurological damage, complications and death. It is a rapidly developing loss of brain functions due to the disturbance in the blood vessels supplying the brain. This can be due to lack of blood supply and may cause thrombosis (obstruction of a blood vessel by a blood clot), embolism (travelling particle or debris) or haemorr
its obvious to any intelligent person that mwanawasa can’t be saved now but we can learn from his mistakes can’t we? I think some of you don’t want to quit smoking.
says you should not blame levy or his wife to fight for the freedom of the people there are sacrifises to be made for example if that Zim oposite side wants to save zim he must put his life second for redio qfm go to coppernet.zm they are reading the scripts
Continued
A stroke may be caused by high blood pressure, high blood cholesterol, diabetes, drug and alcohol abuse, smoking, obesity and heart diseases.
It is a hemorrhagic stroke (mid-brain stroke) that usually results in a coma.
A coma is an extended period of unconsciousness from which a person cannot be aroused even with the most painful stimuli such as pain, light and may not take voluntary actions. A coma may be caused by a variety of things such as haemorrhage, head injury, toxins and shock. When brain damage has occurred, bleeding in the brain, swelling and congestion of the damaged tissue is present.
There are many stages of a coma. Depending on the stage, a person in a coma may make movements, sounds, and experience agitation. They might have reflex activities and may require restraining or sedating.
Owing to the extent of the trauma to the brain, and to aid medical treatment and recovery, a coma can chemi
#12 george I like your french ,j’aime votre franchaise.Vous ecrivez bien!
Africans like power too much.Whites are very clever when it comes to health.It’s really sad tht our president is dead.MMD should have advised lpm not to stand second term.To tell the truth,almost everyone knew in Zambia tht lpm was sick to rule Zambia.Others even said he wouldn’t finish his term.I could see for myself on tv when the presdo was addressing people,his speach was not good at all,even BBC and CNN never showed mwanawasa 4 more than 30second when giving speach.
May his soul rest in peace!!
a coma can chemically be induced by doctors.
Outcome from a coma can be recovery or death. Comas last a few days to a few weeks. Rarely does a coma go beyond 5 weeks. A few isolated cases have lasted years.
If patients emerge from this state, many patients enter a vegetative state. A patient in a vegetative state may regain a degree of awareness but will suffer extensive disabilities.
Depending on the location, cause, severity and extent of neurological damage, recovery from both a stroke and coma (or both) is extremely slow. Others may suffer a persistent vegetative state and brain death (irreversible coma).
While others have been known to recover and attain some level of consciousness.
They are saying now that there is someone in there who knows who the president wanted to take over.
Georgia Russia, please get a translater, we zambians mainly use english. But am sure whatever it is you’re saying i guess you’re trying to say it was down to maureen? Anyway, we all know that our Pres was overweight, it was his personal responsibility to diet. maureen was only too happy to feed him high colesterol foods so that he can kick the bucket quickly and she can fulfil her quest to be president. as for the rest of cabinet, same mission – encourage him to eat unhealthily them vote for a corrupt leader who can overlook corruption
#12 you are very childish no wonder all you postings have been baseless don’t show us more of your ignorance,what school did you go to in Zambia? am sure that will tell us a lot.
This news is out of date and irrelevant at the moment as #11 pointed out, it’s family failure to recognize priorities,sadly they ignored healthy and chose money. Greedy!!!and still she can’t have enough, want to parade the Late(LPM) throughout Zambia Evil.Disgusting what some pipo can do.RIP LPM.
The extent to have learned stimuli (language, communication skills) and reflex actions (in born functions of the brain) may severely be affected.
Depending on the extent of the stroke some patients may recover. They however require extensive care and rehabilitation to help them relearn and regain skills of everyday living. They will require long physical therapy using assistive technology such as wheelchair, walkers, and canes to help with re-learning functions such as walking, transferring and other motor functions.
They will also require occupational therapy which helps learning to eat, dress, bath, read, write and toileting.
These improvements may take years.
Disabilities that arise f
Mwale we can find all that info on the internet where you are copying and pasting from
Mwale, please, WHO DO YOU THINK IS READING ALL YOUR CRAP? ITS TOO LATE!!
After all, you have just CUT AND PASTE from some website
I’m listening to Radio 4, and it’s a very sad occasion, may LPM rest in peace. What I’m finding extremely disturbing is that all the speech makers including the personal Bishop are giving what can be interpreted as campaign speeches. This is very sad. Let us concentrate on the funeral and not the campaigning otherwise it shall seem like some people are using the funeral as a means of gaining sympathy which shall propel them back into power. This is not the time for such selfish motives.
Hello number 1;how are you able to listen to qfm online?
Sad, we can’t get any station online.#28 that’s what we all suspected they will use it to gain sympathy and buy some voters pyscologically.
I have been too able to Radio Phoenix. Go to coppernet.zm amd click on the radio stream
go to coppernet.zm then redio streams you should have itunes which what i am using or real player on you computer and allow through fire war if it askes
EVERYTHING HAS GOT TIME. THERE IS TIME TO BE BORN AND TIME TO DIE. NO ONE CAN ESCAPE DEATH.MAY LPM. REST IN PEACE AND THE LORD ALMIGHT TO COMFORT HIS FAMILY. MAY ALL THOSE WHO ARE THINKING EVIL ABOUT THE FAMILY GET CONFUSED AND SCATTER TO ALL SEVEN DIRECTIONS AND NEVER COME BACK TO THE FAMILY.
If you talk of speaches being sort of a campaign i agree coz just the other day when the jodges were being sorn in they basically declared RP as president
I think the president had wrong advisers .Another problem with african women is tht they like using too much cooking oil to show tht they know how to cook.Actually we need to teach our women how to cook.Eating food with too much cooking oil doesn’t mean u’re rich.That’s why we have young people in africa especially women who are fat like hell.we are just killing ourselves 4 our ignorance.Infact rich whites people don’t even use cooking oil.
#23. i think any one is free 2 contribute here in any form of language,i have not insulted anyone at all.its not rite to say that my posting are baseless,if u not intrested in reading them then book out,,school has nothing to do with posting here.this site is not just for educated pipo ok.get a life u *****
Ok sorry but when someone insults you and you respond with insults aswell it doesnt help ignore them post your comments if they are sensible i dont see why you should be bothered by people that will always sign off with bad words
HEAR ME ALL YO! THE SAYING GOES THAT’BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MAN,THERE IS A WOMAN(WIFE)’BUT IT WAS NOT SO WITH MAUREEN,SHE IS SO GREED AND EGOTISTIC THAT SLIGHTED THE HEALTH STATUS OF HER HUSBAND.I HAVE ONLY TEARS FOR MY BELOVED LPM,NOT AND NEVER FOR HIS WIDOW.LEVY WANTED TO REST IN 2005,BUT IN 2006,HIS WIFE EVEN STARTED TO ACTIVELY CAMPAIGN FOR HIM AS HE COULD NOT SPEAK WELL AT THE TIME,OF HE WAS STILL RECOVERING FROM THAT FIRST STROKE.LUPANDO MWAPE EVEN LOST HIS SEAT CAMPAIGNING FOR LEVY,SO YOU CAN SEE THAT POOR LEVY WAS SURROUNDED BY SELFISH PEOPLE.I HAVE NO TEARS,NO PITY AND NO SYMPATH FOR MAUREEN.BEWARE OF SUCH WOMEN WHEN CONTEMPLATING MARRIAGE.
Iwe ka #36 what form of language.this is not a Mongolian site or probably Mexican site get a life we are on a Zambian site.
People help us get the online Station for Zambian radios.Coppernet ain’t any good .
what caristo was asking about the those flight men from france was useless of him,,those are poor ethics of journalism,if not ready for such jobs they shud sit at home,,did u hear the pilot say he heard that levy died last week????????????????????????
zambia online still has the redio Phoenix link try there zambia.co.zm at the moment there isnt much just playing the solem music
39. pompwe mushibila’ ; nsala-just fermé vers le haut de l’imbécile d’u, AM un libre un Russe qui est resté en Zambie et peut employer n’importe quelle langue
The time is now that all Zambians should awake from their deep slumber of ignorance, lets vote HH, young, healthy,intelligent, successful and rich.
We do not need dead man walking(Sata) in plot 1, nor do we want poor and ignorant(RB) who will end up like bus conductor(Chiluba), by plundering with this money hungly cabinet we have.Neither do we want the clueless(Godfrey Miyanda)he will lose track of the good economical direction that the Cabbege but hard working(LPM) left us in.Nor do we want the I know it all(Magande) who will not be able to listen to advise as he thinks that he know better than anybody else, this will reduce investor confidence in Zambia.
Lets all vote HH.
The list of candidates so far put forward is uninspiring.
Sata is sick,
Godfrey Miyanda looks like he has no clue,
RB is not popular in his new party,
Magande is a Mr Know-it-all loud mouth
Others are simply not easy to sell…
Oh waite God has given us HH.
Message à George – Russie: j’aime que vous blâmer les dirigeants à propos de … comment nous blâmer nous-mêmes pour lui permettre de choisir toutes les personnes qu’il étrange entouré lui-même, et nous-mêmes pour le vote que bien d’autres encore.
Bowa you are very actively campaining for HH but stop changing you name every time you post the same campain message
Opinion poll can some restructure the list of people to take over from the late and maybe we can vote otherwise Stats on Zambia Online
Who should succeed Levy Mwanawasa as President of MMD?
• None of the above 44.5%
• Ng’andu Magande 28.7%
• Felix Mutati 12.0%
• Katele Kalumba 7.5%
• Kabinga Pande 4.0%
• Ronnie Shikapwasha 3.2%
Total votes: 2377
Ngondo says it is not time for any opposition party to take part in an election unless you want confusion its only 3 years let the ruling party continue.
where is tv online?znbc without a tv on internet is a big joke!
poor country and lack of leaders?
45. Anonymous merci beaucoup mon cher, j’ai un grand intérêt en Zambie et les news de prélèvement ne me manger un lot, date à laquelle il a été déclaré malade j’étais en France, je blâmer les gens autour de lui et lui tellig pas la vérité, , ont de toute façon un grand week-end
I was listening to Radio Phenix and the situation was devastating. LPM rest in peace. We will always remember you.
Listerning to Radio PHEONIX from commentaries overseas that was very sad indeed .One thing that came out is our poverty again the mighty Chibamba Kanyama complaining to studio about his talk time that is finishing ,surely if you are live on air you can use your wisdom to disern some of the words you say on air.You could have easily arranged with the studio manager to pay back you hundred pin than for the whole wolrd to know that you are running out of talk time.When are we going to learn to sacrifice as Zambians?We always want donors to fund even simple things like that shame on you Chibamba…………
#45 or is it #50 stop talking to yourself
Don’t forget that GBM, Sikatana and Mulongoti are some of the pipo interested to take over frm Levy!!!! God save us. Shikapwasha may go for it also and hopefully Shakafuswa. Whats your comment?
DO NOT BLAME MAUREEN ABOUT LEVY’S DEATH.DEATH IS INDEED DEATH.LEVY WAS VERY ACTIVELY WORKING ON HIS WEIGHT BY GOING TO THE GYM.REMMEMBER HE LEARNT ABOUT SATA’S ILLNESS WHILE HE WAS AT THE GYM IN CHAMBA VALLEY.HE PROUNDLY ENJOYED HIS WORKOUT.THE WHOLE COUNRTY HAS LOST THIS GREAT LEADER BUT MAUREEN AND HER CHILDREN HAVE LOST A HUSBAND AND FATHER.SO CHAPS WITH YOUR HATRED FOR THE MWANAWASA FAMILY PLEASE GIVE THEM A BREAK THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT WHEN SOME OF YOU BUSY ENJOYING YOUR CHIBUKU.
This article explains the strokes in general terms and nothing really about levy. It mentions deep vein thrombosis as a possible effect of flying what I can connect is a thrombus (clot) to a bleed which levy had. Secondly, it does not tell us what type of stroke levy had at first(haemorrhagic or ischaemic i.e bleed or block). A bled is usually associated with an aneurysm, AVM (arterial venous malformation) or a blow to the head eg accident. So which one of these caused the bleed. If his first stroke was also a bleed, surely then we need to hold his medical team accountable for stroke patients need to attend the stroke clinic regularly, maybe every six months or shorter to monitor any develo
log on to the coppernet website and clink the QFM link. you will get the stream live
#54 No comment at all it all depends on the D.O.G.S that will vote for them
cotd form 56…developing aneurysms and take early intervention if need be. Perharps tell us what he had in 2006 and how it was treated or is that coming in part 2?
#54 how old is Sikatana? Please lets leave geriatric candidates out we have a lot of vibrant younger zambians who can rule us. GOD FORBID.
Zedians when are going to learn from our past mistakes?we have now resorted to ‘sembe’. typical of a Zedian behavior when we are hit by a national disaster.just like the Gabon air disaster LPM’s premature death could have been avioded.Now look at what it will cost us to have a presidential by election – $3 billion Kwacha.this money could have been used to build roads,stadiums and many other projects.Zedians its time for us to wake up after all there will only be one zambia.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK STRESS MIGHT BE THE MAIN THING THAT CAUSED THE PRESIDENT TO SUFFER FROM A STROKE WHILE HE WAS IN EGYPT. THIS STRESS CAN REALLY COME FROM MUGABE’S REFUSAL TO QUIT THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS THAT WERE SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE IN THAT COUNTRY. SINCE HE WAS THE SADC CHIRMAN I THINK, HE BECAME SO DISAPPOINTED THAT HE STARTED THINKING OF SOME WAYS OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM IN ZIMBABWE AS THE SADC LEADER. AS IT WAS HIS MANDATE TO MAINTAIN PEACE IN THE SADC REGION.
#59 Can you name just 2 of those
# 62 Sata is another although #54 did mention him, he is favauorably mentioned by others. I hope you wont come back and ask me for the third one.
ANEBA BANTU ,THERE IS A POPULATION OF PIPO WHO JUST VENERABLE TO CERTAIN DESEASES NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY WEIGH OR WHAT DO .LOOK AT KAFUPI FTJ AND HIS HEART PROBLEM THE MAN WEIGHS SOMETHING LIKE 55KG BUT HE’S A CARDIAC PATIENT.SATA IS CARDIAC COZ OF HIS CARELESSNESS SMOKING.BUT KK IS FREE FROM ALL THIS COZ OF HIS HEATHY DIETY.
22. Princess
That is innuendo & utter bollocks.Maureen does not do the cooking in State House.State House is not like an ordinary home like yours & mine where meals are prepared by us and not checked rigorously for its nutritional content & foreign substances,the President never ate rubbish but he had medical problems(diabetes & high BP)from way back when he was just an ordinary man and before he married Maureen in the 80’s.Levy had been big despite being actively involved in sport & farming.It is not eating alone that makes people big,genetics plays a major role too.
When did LPM die was it really 19-08-08 or 03-07-08?anyway like my traditional cousins say ‘pafwa bantu pashala bantu’.God gives God takes away lets forge ahead.
#45 and 50 .arrêter la conversation à vous peu de gens comprennent ici français
There are a lot of factors that can lead to a stroke. Some conditions run in families, others are as a result of abnormal formations at birth or in later life(like AVMs, aneurysms etc). Abnormal beatings of the heart can also form clots which can travel to any parts of the body with fatal results if the embolus lodges itself into the cerebral or coronary arteries. Research has also indicated that people who have had injuries to the brain are at risk of strokes. There are just too many factors, his doctors have indicated exactly what caused the bleed and if the family wants us to know they will tell us.
This is a very unfortunate situation, my deepest sympathy goes out to the presidential family and the people of Zambia as a whole.
Sadly the truth of the matter is that everyone knew that PM was not well. He did some very commendable work in his first term and for that the whole of Zambia will be grateful. Running for a second term,was one of the worst choices he made. Its sad that no one could discourage him. Others even went to the trouble of getting medical reports proving that he was fit for office…..so WHO NOW can/will explain the loss of his life? M.H.S.R.I.P.
Why are you not up dating us on the bodys arrival ba LT?
correction at #68 I meant to say I am sure his doctors have indicated the cause of his bleed and not iam sure….MY APPOLOGIES
There’s no such thing as untimely death God decides when 1 shd die.even healthy pipo die without gettin sick.IS H.H STILL K23BN RICH?
Who the hell is ”medical correspondent”,can’t the person doing the cut & paste job state their name & medical qualifications before giving advice like all medical professionals do,what’s wrong with this blog,why allow unprofessional ethics.It’s good to give advice to people who don’t exercise,smoke,drnk alcohol & eat unhealthy foods but it’s nonsense to start this article as a way of trying to ascertain the cause of theP resident’s death,any national President is surrounded by experienced & learned medics who know what their job is so Lusaka Times should not take us for a ride by adding a second part to this article written by an unknown person.
#52. I was also shocked. That was terrible.
#52 YABA; if possible kindly post me/us the key steps for accessing the radio streams. Does one need to subscribe to coppernet.zm?
No 2. Did you follow the events prior to the last elections? Well meaning Zambians and Medical experts advised against him running but he was corheced by the likes of Mpombo, Shikapwasha and ofcourse ba mama ba Maureen.
If only the valuable advice was followed, LPM was going to be around at his farm today. How I wish time could be reversed.
Hope Sata will be well advised as well, especially by the wife who is a Med. Doctor.
Did u hear the French pilots confirm that he was told about Levy’s death last week??
I heard that myself when Caristo was interviewing the French flight crew. Wonders will surely never end.
#73 iwe ma guys you just like criticizing, if I was to walk on water you would probably say its because I can’t swim.
Chababa mudala ana mwalila, bachikulile batu bafunika kuchayako maExercise. Onani Obama, George Bush, Kikwete… trim. Mabvuto nikwatu tiyesa kamimba nindalama.
That Hospital in france is a death chamber. No one goes there and comes out alive. They should close it.
nga tapunzilako chintu apa nikuti ntau yafika yolungisa vipatala vatu. mazambian bonse baina ndalama bafela kuti kuja… morningside hospital, johannesburg. ntau yaKaunda UTH yenze che.
Is the picture shown by LT on this topic the ICU or mortuary? If it is a mortuary, please remove it.
We are all saddened by the death.
65, I agree with you Levy was just a big man, it was in his genes, I once so a picture of him in The Post when he was a young boy in Mufulira, he was big. In fact he said he did everything. He only drink water, no coke, beer etc, that what he said but he could not lose weight.
ba esk,are you happening
Icisungu bashidada! Chizungu!
sorry ba miriam for my stupidity
LATE MWANAWASA WAS MOST LIKELY ADVISED BY HIS DOCTORS. HE SHOULD HAVE EVEN READ MEDICAL JOURNALS ABOUT HIS CONDITION, LIKE SOME OF US DO. BUT WHAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT IS THE SACRIFICE HE MADE FOR US. HE HAS DONE A LOT FOR ZAMBIA, AND CONTRIBUTED TO SADC REGION. THIS IS CALLED SACRIFICE. NOT EVERYONE SACRIFICES OTHER STEAL LIKE SOME WHO ARE CURRENTLY APPEARING IN COURT FOR PLUNDERING.
SO STOP POINTING FINGERS AT MAUREEN, LATE MWANAWASA, HIS DOCTORS, MINISTERS. THINK POSITIVE AND THANK THE LATE AND THOSE CLOSE TO HIM AS HE SACRIFICED. LOOK AT WHAT HE HAS ACHIEVED.
THANK YOU MWANAWASA FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR MY COUNTRY, ZAMBIA.
MAY YOUR SOUL REST IN ETERNAL PEACE.
NORWAY
#12. Kindly interpret your language.
Your lost friends are not dead they have just advanced a stage or two upon that road which you must travel one day.
We will meet with him one day.
Guys lets vote wisely,anyone who had a heart attack in the recent past is not eligible to stand for presidency.
Oh my God Zambia, the SADC, and Africa have lost a great leader. LPM transformed Zambia to where it is today. He was no doubt the besr leader that Zambia had ever had. May his Soul Rest in Peace.
The picture I see on top, is that our president? Why did those French chaps abandon him in a corridor like that? Or is LK misleading us.
It doesn’t help or make sense to be lecturing about what has killed LPM,though it does help for the survivors of the preveiling condition. Lets mourn our beloved president, what has happened has happened, its GOD’S WISH AT WHAT TIME/DAY ONE DIES. MHSRIP.
LT,
Allow me to remind you that this thread in dangerous, insensitive, liable and unexecusable.Be careful and wise.Freedom of speech does not take away responsibility.Consult on this thread from the wise and sincere.You are at liberty to retain it but understand the precarious season we are in as a country.This thread is no different to the talk radio shows and posted scripts that infested the demise of Rwanda’s Juvenal Habyarimana & his Burundi compriot.See the pay load of Radio Rwanda and Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines(RTLM inflamators that were.I warn you out of experience in those countries.
What Can Cause a Coma?
Comas can be caused by different things, including:
* a severe injury to the head that hurts the brain, more after car accident.
* seizures
* infections involving the brain
* brain damage caused by a lack of oxygen for too long
* Talking too much and feeling to step down
* a stroke
Usually, a coma does not last more than a few weeks. Sometimes, however, a person stays in a coma for a long time – even years – and will be able to do very little except breathe on his own.
Most people do come out of comas, however. Some of them are able to return to the normal lives they had before they got sick. On TV, someone in a coma usually wakes up right away, looks around, and is able to think and talk normally. But in real life, this rarely happens. When a person comes out of a coma, he will often be confused and can only slowly respond to what’s going on around him. It will take time for him to start feeling better.
Whether someone fully returns to normal after being in a coma d
Kine…u have sense that are real by stopping foolishness here,,,some people don`t think they just post for the sake of…..
DO NOT BLAME MAUREEN ABOUT LEVY’S DEATH.DEATH IS INDEED DEATH.LEVY WAS VERY ACTIVELY WORKING ON HIS WEIGHT BY GOING TO THE GYM.REMMEMBER HE LEARNT ABOUT SATA’S ILLNESS WHILE HE WAS AT THE GYM IN CHAMBA VALLEY.HE PROUNDLY ENJOYED HIS WORKOUT.THE WHOLE COUNRTY HAS LOST THIS GREAT LEADER BUT MAUREEN AND HER CHILDREN HAVE LOST A HUSBAND AND FATHER.SO CHAPS WITH YOUR HATRED FOR THE MWANAWASA FAMILY PLEASE GIVE THEM A BREAK THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT WHEN SOME OF YOU BUSY ENJOYING YOUR CHIBUKU.
well pls kine correct some spellings above
Hahahahaha are u sure.
That Hospital in france is a death chamber. No one goes there and comes out alive. They should close it.
Ba sata bakwata abakashi banga, to advice him?
Ala iwe Haamanjanji … the French doctors did the best, ur president was a moving dead person all along…. so dont blame them u stupid fool,
NEXT PRESIDO SHOULD UNDER GO MEDICAL CHECK UP.. NO MORNNING SIDE CLINIC EVERY 3 MONTHS.!!!!!!
lessons to be learned from this whole episode
1. democracy in our part of africa certainly is a farce and will remain so until the masses who carry the vote have basic literacy and jobs
2. maybe the government should spend the windfall tax on uplifting whats left of our medical sector as a key priority and salary increments should goaccross the board to medical personnel – those that have left will not go back to Zambia
#100 aba pa n’ganda, ba Dr.
God has the last say in our lives.
To live is Christ to die is gain.That can only be true if you have a personal relationship with Jesus.
We will all die at some time.
Calm down people and please stop patronizing others. We’re all free to express our opinion. The anonymity of the internet does not mean we should be so crude in our comments. Levi is dead period. He had an illness that all of you knew about and yet non of you said a thing when he was still alive either. If others want to speculate and learn more about stroke etc let them be. If you feel its too late for him, or you can cut & paste the medical info, keep your peace. Why do we always like to pull each other down? why don’t i see a mature discussion on anything from Zambians. Learn to agree to disagree with maturity and don’t annoy each other. Levi had doctors in Zambia and London to advise him
Now what is going on in Zambia , there is asaying that the Afrikan interectual have let down the continent, see what the so called clever people do , they never want to listen to advice , you set the nation on fare with anger, why did they take the president to France , why did they not deal with it, it shows inresponsibility of our so called educated, not politians , when will Afrika learn.?
Guys, lets use English whenever possible or anyother Zamlaguages.French ???
Insofu dont forget that some zambians like kulibonesha ta -french
then drive to Teka farm then going to Gabon then Mfuwe” Mmmmmm one person1. Poor diet-he should have been a vegan from 2001 to Egypt including in-flight food from all those trips he made (not sure about the G 8 mtg trip to UK where he was sent back) LOL
2. When did he start going to the Gym? how about walking around plot 1 every day? priceless!
3.JET LAG-Can I get an AMEN in this house? LPM LOVED to travel, I dont know if its the allowances or amanoone??
4.LPM was over weight/obese, short tempered probably led to high BP
5.Failed to delegate some int.trips hence made 3-4 trips in 2 weeks at times, “LPM connecting from kenya to China then to UK ?
Just my 2 cents people, just my 2 cents
1. Poor diet-he should have been a vegan from 2001 to Egypt including in-flight food from all those trips he made (not sure about the G 8 mtg trip to UK where he was sent back) LOL
2. When did he start going to the Gym? how about walking around plot 1 every day? priceless!
3.JET LAG-Can I get an AMEN in this house? LPM LOVED to travel, I dont know if its the allowances or amanoone??
4.LPM was over weight/obese, short tempered probably led to high BP
5.Failed to delegate some int.trips hence made 3-4 trips in 2 weeks at times, “LPM connecting from kenya to China then to UK then drive to Teka farm then going to Gabon then Mfuwe”
Mmmmmm one person ?
Just my 2 cents people, just my 2 cents
Imwe what did Caristo ask the pilots? what did the pilots say?
let mwanawasa rest in peace good people die fast Anderson mazoka died know mwanawasa his half tribal brother has died .hows gona rule zambia?
Even BBC says “Levy Mwanawasa had been in poor health for several years”
SEVERAL YEARS…Poor diet, no exercise,stress, weight???
correction:::: this is my opinion
SEVERAL YEARS…Poor diet, no exercise,stress, weight???
I’d like to know what the french pilot said.Is it as we suspected? That the President died probably even 2 months ago? Somenone please!!!!!
its sad really but i guess his time came. znbc is showing the body viewing right now
Whilst it is dreadful and unhealth to be over wheight and with a pot belly in the western world,it is the in thing pa zed.If you have a pot belly and are over weight nishi yali passa economy.The mind set for many Zambians has to be changed into health living,eat the right food,cut down on over indulgence in alcohol and all the things that cause ill health.Exercise more.Politicians and many other role models have to begin marketing health living.In UK OBESITY and its effects is debated upon in parliament,why cant we?They are so many of these deaths in Zambia from unhealth life styles.We need to learn lessons and it is not wrong to reflect.Good article this one iam waiting for part 2.
#114 So what even if the BBC say LMP was in poor health for several years?We loved him ,he served us faithfully way beyond the expectations of the same BBC whom you think have answers for all our ills .They are just like you and me and liable to twist and turn facts to suit their audiance.Let Levy rest in perfect peace of the Lord.This is one thing which is reassuring is the fact that he was saved and he knew that one day he’s going to be with his maker.
From his rotting body, flowers shall grow and he is in them and that is eternity, rest in peace Mwanawasa!!!
When Caristo intetviewed the pilots yesterday, they seemed to have known about the death a long time ago….Something not brewing right here!
Caristo is only human you guys. he dose not have the highest IQ… nor is he the best journalist.
One thing for sure is that he aught to be kicking himself for the stupid question he asked if he is to improve his journalism. it was a stupid question
its like LPM died a long time ago, what do you think guys.
MHSRIP
#119 Kine Mwane, I just make a reference to the topic of this thread. My evidence with BBC doesnot mean they are the best Media joint. Dont START WITH ME coz u dont know me like that son? Speak for yourself that “We loved Levy and he served us faithfully..” I wonder who is WE and US other than you and your LPM supporters coz dude am not. Which part of my comments did I say BBc is not like me or anyone? U loser! Just go kill your hang over at your local bar, play pool and get some tomatoes for the wife and Masau for the kids. Matter of fact, BBC was not against LPM-you punk! they merely stated a fact that LPM was in poor health-if u dont like the sound of truth-bite me
U complain like a gal
Pipo can u brief us as who are not in the country.What did caristro do?
may his soul rest in peace. i personally was proud of levy. Not because he is gone but because he worked and died working. maureen god bless you mom. i know how it feels.
what about the letter our president received in EGYPT that was said to be very dangerous from one presdo who did not want LPM to deliver his speech……..this was most likely cause.LPM was in good health until he received the letter.
bravo ba kateka balibomba, although bamo baletila awe, awe mayo ba maureen mukose, infwa tayawama, tuchili naimwe mumapepo ati ba yahwe ba mitungulule mulifyonse… panfwa yabatata it’s hard to tell, ka speculation nako takawama.
This heading is misleading i was of the impressison we were going to get a step by step especially of the last 12 hrs before the president collapsed. We need to know how he travelled to Egypt, who he was with in Egypt , what meetings were scheduled and who he was with when he collapsed. How long it took for medical aid to arrive. I think Zambians deserve such kind of enquiries and not the surface kind of probing that is happening here. Such information is vital as we need to archive the findings , write a book, do a case study or even make a movie.
ya blogger mune wasosa, but then d finding might no be pleasant ones’ ninshi ichalo chesu kuti cha pena. ukwete that info shud tell us, m nw oso curious to know, pantu we’ve left in da dark..
For crying out low-wat gud will it do to speculate about this now.A great man has died, the best we can do is bid him farewell in a way that is befitting for him…God bless Zambia.
#11 Njobvu Kazi, where r u based? ur postings r great! would like to know u more and better.
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THATS A SIMPLE QUESTION TO ANSWER…..
ASK THE FIRST WIDOW muareen ba make lubona weh
Ba #44. i dont like your suggestion,, ati we vote for HH. Never!!!! these guys are so tribal,, before you know it you will have a Mr. Hansuntu for Min of Finance.. Hachigubu for Min of Agric .. himmooonde for Min of Foreign Affairs and Hantobolo for speaker…….and so on… am not agaist togas but the Southerners are just toooooo tribal…..
ok pipo pa zed ba mu gov’t balitudelela,u will observe that evrytime we ask 4 findings and causes of very important issues in z country it takes months and years and we dnt even come to know of what happend,Lt pliz mwilatwimya imitima if u dnt have info mwe!
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