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Nothing wrong with move to reconcile with FTJ , MMD

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The MMD says there is nothing wrong with the ruling party reconciling with second Republican President, Frederick Chiluba.

Party Spokesperson, Ben Tetamashimba, says the MMD should not be demonised over its renewed relationship with Dr. Chiluba.

Mr. Tetamashimba said although Dr. Chiluba is facing corruption charges, the former President remains innocent until proven guilty by the courts of Law.

He told ZNBC news that Acting president, Rupiah Banda, will base his governance style on reconciliation.

Mr Tetamashimba however, could not state how Dr. Chiluba has reconciled with the ruling party.

Dr. Chiluba renounced his MMD membership in the run-up to the 2006 elections and threw his support behind the opposition Patriotic Front.

[ZNBC]

94 COMMENTS

  1. Zambian politics are very petty, who is chiluba wether Chiluba is convicted or not , it will not imporve your life. talk real issues.

  2. These MMDbast**ds are very annoying. Just what do they take us citizens for? A bunch of empty skulls? We are paying for have a majoirty illiterate citizenry and most of them poor too. I wish we could have a revolution of radicals in this country. Even a coup, for once. may be that can wake us up…

  3. Teta And Mike are always wrong. Which man on earht would embrace chiluba in his current state. Surely, Zambians are not fools. We shall Teach the MMd and RB a lesson for fighting against the very things tht the late president embraced. Keeping away from plunderers! Shame on Teta!!!!!!

  4. Why has the MMD adopted the childish habit of denying accusations only to confirm the a couple of days later?

  5. Please MMD atleast keep some principles. There is no positive out of any involvement with Chiluba. Chiluba is supposed to be a finished and disgraced former head of State. Disgraced, i repeat. He needs to be left to the gutters. You are now trying to re-build a lame donkey. This Donkey suppoted SATA last time, and Sata lost. The same dead donkey has managed to create chaos for Sata within his PF. Now you want to draw this lame Donkey into MMD politics. For what? Chiluba is unpopular. The earlier Mwanawasa should have sent him to jail the better it would have been. Now MMD has managed to make him a hero. After those levels of corruption in his Government. Mwanawasa must be turning in grave.

  6. Why is that no one said he was innocent until proved guilty before? I mean before the demise of LPM? Interesting! Anyway, I love Chiluba. He will go into history as one of Zambia’s eloquent and great leader despite all the fight to paint him bad. Losers!

  7. Kindly leave Kafupi alone has an ilness to attend too. He is also preparing his soul for the grave. He Shall surely die.

  8. All the same. So Sata was happy to be supportered by political engineer, dribbler and plunderer. Then he has the gaul to call RB corrupt. This is pathetic. Rb should really distance himself from the pillagers, atase.

  9. FTJ is as finished as his health. Leave him alone to die slowly. His hands are bathed in blood. His heart is contaminated with people’s lives who death can be traced on his stupid soul.

  10. The very involvement of Chiluba is why I didnt vote for Sata in 2006 and it is for the same reason that I wont vote for MMD this time around. I lost my parents due to his harsh inhuman policies why he was busy buying himself green shoes.

  11. iN FACT, Chiluba should be hunged until proven dead by a competent Dr. He is such a disgrace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. I respect the Lozi chiefs who dont involve themselves in cheap and bribery politics, has anyone heard them announcing any support for Nyama soya? No they re too principled to be bought. Viva Lozi chiefs, Viva Pabwato

  13. I think king fred deserves a chance to reconcile with the party he helped form no harm with that.This prolonged war on corruption targeting certain individuals has brought more harm than good what i mean is, the task force has consumed more money than it will ever recover ala tashakamoneke gentlemen .Lets now focus on something to bring in more money than paying the task force officers who end up just repossesing somebodys shoes.Think big zambians

  14. Dear sugar daddy RB, you say you worked with LPM and you know his legacy, but you are doing the very opposite. LPM did away with chiluba, you bring him back, he wanted Zambian Airways to stay, but you ve killed it, he stopped the brown enveloops, but you have multiplied them with the following as beneficiaries; vj, christone, nevers, saki, Aka, hundreds of chiefs. Your days are numbered. God cant not be fooled.

  15. Partnerships are good. But partnership in crime is bad. MMD and FTJ are one. RP and MMD are one. What reconciliation? These guys have always been in this gungship only that they have only gone public now.

  16. Revolution for the poor and down trodden. All the current leadership(regardless of party) is haggard and tired. We need them no more.
    This is a call to all new kids on the block…non-violent revolution(its not an oxymoron!).

  17. Teta as ugly as wat ur saying.pliz wen u lose leave.pantu pipo ar upset,thy dnt wnt u..dnt bring anarchy here.ur doin exactly the oposite of wat lpm stood 4-coruption,bribery and lies.

  18. So shall u#14.There are so many Zambians who love,respect & support FTJ who would love to see him live in peace & get the respect he deserves as a fomer head of state hence ba MMD’s “support” for him cos they know that those pipo who love him & want to c the end of his suffering will not hesitate to vote for whoever will help put an end to what he’s going thru.

  19. Chengelo Alumni -  LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born Tonga and succesful”. Chengelo Alumni - LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born Tonga and succesful”.

    ZAMBIA – the real AFRICA

  20. Teta is really a damn annoying chap! This guy is double tongued, he is a terrible sword. He only goes where he sees oppotunities. Today he says this and the next few days he changes. Surely Zedians we do not need people like Tetaand the rest of his camp mates to be in leadership lest we remain were we are or even continue lagging behind in development. Its really surprising for FTJ to only come back to MMD after the demise of LPM and the likes of Teta welcoming him back. He is just as corrupt as him! They have ineed regrouped!

  21. Whats so special about Bembas being tribalists anyway? Leave them alone why do you care so much. Tojisi hyakuchita olo kulemba?

  22. Viva chiluba long live FTJ Why should foreign courts be troubling u, the same foreigners who have brought harm to Zimbabwe viva Robert Mugable abash pupetism- muzhungu anikonde mentarity. Long live independence!

  23. Chiluba is sick He must not waste his life in politics. Regina advise your Husband you are the right person to pump sense in him. Teta is useless.

  24. #33 you are intimidated by bembas. Did some nice tall bemba boy shag your wife? Take it easy with your tribalist posting, this just politics. Stupt zambian

  25. Imwe bashetani mwebatemenye hitting each other coz of tribe muleke amano ayo.Whats so special about you being tonga or bemba.Ata amano ububi bakoswe

  26. ba fee-colour tamwakwata story. Bwamba bwe-nu ba RB. RB kuyabebele.
    ka FTJ will just come to marry your sweet sixteen wife. FTJ is a plunderer period. RB u suck you will just send our zambia to the DOGS again. NOOOO!!!!!!

  27. 21 and 46 hanging is the most degrading punishment you can ever give to a human being.If you guys enjoy that then that is your business.
    I never liked Saddam but I regreted having watched him being hunged.
    I don’t know but I’d rather take the civilised view.

  28. The best way to keep Chiluba away is not to vote for MMD.Now I know the choice is not so good but we have 2011 when we would be choosing between Prof Chirwa and HH.

  29. MMD CAN DO ANYTHING TO CONTINUE STAYING IN POWER. THEY ARE NOW EMBRACING CROOKES LPM TURNED AWAY. WHAT A SHAME TO U KA TETA

  30. THESE GUYS HAD ALWAYS SUPPORTED FTJ’S CORRUPT PRACTICES EXCEPT LPM COULD NOT CARRY THEM ALONG. NOW THAT HE IS NO MORE, THEY ARE SHOWING US THERE TRUE COLOURS. BANGIVE (YOU THIEVES)

  31. Under the Philosophy of Humanism, black, white, yellow,green and corrupt people must all join Kafupi in rejoining the MMD. they are welcome, I repeat, they are welcome…

  32. #53. Will the people of Zambia live under the Philosophy of Humanism?If you have no issue to add please keep quit. KK the will never forgive FTJ.under the Total Zero grow in Economy. Teta is back with Chiluba’s legancy

  33. Ever since i was born i have never seen or heared of an intelligent chief in zed. Living on hand-outs & making poor decisions is typical of a zedian chief. No wonder rural areas have higher poverty levels. Plz embark on chief education.

  34. FTJ remains famous in the copperbelt and northern , Luapula provinces, that’s why Sata used him in the last campaign and the MMD want to use him now. Its a political move which will eventually see FTJ pardoned by RB when he wins.

  35. Hola, how could you watch saddam’s hanging? i couldn’t bring myself round to watching it so avoided it at all costs. so i wonder who is worse, you who watched a hanging or us who are just having a laugh?

  36. bloggers this topic is pure nonsense. its a friday, lets talk about amaule ne fyamba naka brown bottle. natwishiba efyo tuka vota pa last. Anti RB

  37. Did know that the most corrupt zedian is not FTJ but it is a group of people called Traditional leaders(chiefs), men & women of who live on hand-outs, grease money, bribery, coruption from the date of first appointment till they die.

  38. Republican, as it is, we in UNIP have taken over the MMD and so once again all you fellows will live under the philosophy of humanism as intepreted by RB Banda, my former foreign minister.

  39. Chiluba should be condemned to slow death, whip him in front of all of us in independence stadium.I wish him ifipute. He is the reason why so many pipo left Zambia agaist their wills. They got tired tightening their belts. Bamukabene chenjeleni.

  40. FTJ wants RB to pardon him if he was elected President and he is fearing that if MMD goes then he will be locked up.

    So Pa ZED VOTE HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH for the country to fight corruption.

  41. Ba Ben why didn’t you reconcile with FTJ while LPM was alive.
    I take it as a bad move, because al of you never wanted to come any close with Chiluba when LPM may his soul rest in peace was around.
    We amy start wondering what kind of royality you had ba muselela kwakaba.

  42. Teta Thinks he owns North-western Province meanwhile people there hate him.I would Like to see Teta resign after 30 Oct 08 .Because NW Province will not support him.

    VIVA HHHHHHHHHH. Ba Mwisho pa LPM balifwile nomba Ba Banda Kimo na FTJ findo bakamiletela North Western Province.Ba Kaonde ,Ba Lamba Ba Lubale , Ba chokwe, Ba Lunda Votelai HHHHHH muntu wenu.

  43. I wish Levy was still alive.Have you seen how politicians are hypocrits???
    Levy is gone,
    now his followers wants to bring chiluba the thief close!
    Is that a betrayal or a game??
    They claim they want to continue where Levy left his work.
    Is that where Levy left his work by about to bring chiluba the corrupt,thief and evil boy close???
    Zambians lets vote wisely

  44. This is a desperado move by the MMD in order to win the elections. Only Don Chichi and VJ know how to rig an election. watch out.

  45. Chiluba is back. Haters, what next? Wow. I told you guys that Chiluba is gonna be back and in control. The clean (in terms of dress) is back on the scene. So, how are you guys gonna count his shoes now? In pairs or lumolumo as Mwanawasa did? I love this guys. He save Zambia from extinction. He created the economy that Zambia is enjoying now. He cut all the stupid lines for buses, sugar, salt, Saladi(Cooking Oil), and put KK’s Communism/Socialism to rest. That is what great leaders do. Vision batata.

  46. Zambianm economy is donor driven ask magande. We have no plan B like Mugabe situation. we have come a long way to win donor confidence cause they know FTJ looted coffers. Now we are going nback to FTJ. The donors will lose trust and the economy will be messed up. believe me. Inflation will hit +100. Ask super ken because of his wrong ppolicies at the end Zambia sunk and 1991 he kissed power Gud by.

  47. Anyone with half a brain knows that FTJ is guilty as sin. How can MMD accept someone that has literally driven our country into the crapper and not made the lives of its people any better? The guy just needs to be thrown in jail (after they prove him guilty ofcourse)and have the key thrown away. Too bad LPM died when he did, he was doing so much with his whole stance on corruption….

  48. #72

    olichipuba. How can you glorify a plunderer who caused the death of so many people either directly or indirectly? You are evil

  49. Zambianm economy is donor driven ask magande. We have no plan B just like Mugabe situation. we have come a long way to win donor confidence cause they know FTJ looted coffers & they supportd his trial. Now we are going back to FTJ. The donors will lose trust and the economy will be messed up. believe me. Inflation will hit +100. Ask super ken because of his wrong policies at the end of his rule Zambia sunk, no tissue, colget, sugar in shops and 1991 he kissed power Gud bye.

  50. Country mebn, #78 has brought about an intresting issue worth commenting and debating. Our economy cant stand on it;s on like the venuezuela of this world. Our war on corruption is admired the world over. Now this!!! what do fellow bloggers say?
    indly comment on #78 contributor please. way open for more additions or subtractions.

  51. Ala iwe, tonse uto tuma items ulelandapo pa Zed we can manufacture fwe bene. At least if you mentioned essentialities like oil/fuel.
    The only seriously scarce commodity in Zambia now is opportunity. Wa ishiba? Olo lefwaya nkolondolwele?

  52. #77 No one is a chipuba.Learn to respect other peoples views without judging.
    I for one would never vote for Chiluba but there people who would still support him.It is called democracy and mind you being democractic does not mean you are right.So they could be wrong but that’s just the way it is.

  53. #78 I agree that our economy is weak but we are making a mistake relying on donor money. The fact is most of these donors attach policy conditions to the money they donate. Often times these conditions prove to be disastrous-examples are: deregulate market, reduce tax on imports and instead tax working sector (people are discouraged from getting formal jobs), open your market to allow competitiveness (now we give 5-yeat tax breaks to companies that leave immediately after 5 years!). Many of today’s successful South-East Asian nations rejected these conditions and made economic policies to fit their situations. We should learn from them and change our policies.

  54. #78 and #79 but how do you convince our govt when 95% are always begging the West for funds? This poverty mentality will only cease when our so called leaders stop to look for foreign investments as the only way to develop a nation.
    People like prof Chirwa have great ideas that would change the country’s image but what has the MMD done to him? Blocked him at all costs with lame excuses like well why did you go abroad and work outside?

  55. Yeah #83 Scheptic and the most absurd thing in the voter’s mind is that they would vote for somone who can do the ‘best’ begging for foreign investment.
    Here in Britain there is a phobia that foreign investment might take over while in Zambia it please come and help us-even after 40something years of independence.

  56. TETA also. Anyway its okey for MMD to reconcile with their former member.As long as the courts of law have not reconciled with the ACCUSED..

  57. Reconciliation is welcomed but FTJ should not be let loose. The law of the land should prevail, if found guilty he should suffer the consequences. Zambia needs leaders who have ideas and can challenge each other constructively for the development of the nation. Have a look at the British system this shows a typical example of the way we need to be. Our leaders need to be there for the people not only for themselves and their families.
    Let us stand together and criticise constructively.

  58. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe - LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born  Tonga and succesful Maestro Hhehhehhehhe - LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born Tonga and succesful

    #78, you are quite right. The good news is that the UPND and HH have got a plan B for Zambia. Their (UPND) plan is to move away from depending on Donors and live within the money the UPND-GRZ will generate.
    I believe in this kind of approach and I know we as Zamba and Zambians can do it. Stop borrowing is the motto for self-reliance.
    Vote for the UPND’s HH for a real ray of change and hoep that all Zambians can believe and trust in.

  59. Teta is right Chiluba is innocent until he has been proven guilty by the courts.this is a land of laws and not men.Chiluba had his own positive side,he empowered Zambians with houses and brought democracy even privatisation.

  60. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe - LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born  Tonga and succesful Maestro Hhehhehhehhe - LABELLED as a TRIBALIST BY a group of BEMBA-TRIBALISTS (mainly UNDEREDUCATED or Kaponyas) who are small DISTINCT group from the ORIGINAL NORMAL REAL BEMBA PEOPLE of Zambia, just because I am born Tonga and succesful

    I like former President of Zambia Chiluba. He is a man who saved Zambia from chaos and trouble by making sure the Hon. Sata does not get to Plot 1 in 2001. For this reason, I will always treasure and cherish Mr Chiluba FTJ (Honourary Doctor, Malawi) for this greatest contribution he (Chiluba) did to Zambia as a country and Nation. I still trust that Mr Chiluba will pull and surprise on Hon Sata very soon to spoil Sata’s already slim chances of getting to Plot 1 as Zambian President.
    Countdown: 25 days and we are counting.

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