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THE Patriotic Front (PF), if elected into power, has pledged to put up an oil pipeline from Angola to Zambia’s North-Western Province and a refinery to supplement Indeni Oil Refinery in addressing fuel shortages.

Spokesperson, Given Lubinda said in an interview in Lusaka yesterday that a PF government would address the problem of petroleum importation through the party’s foreign policy.

Mr Lubinda, who is PF presidential candidate Michael Sata’s campaign manager, said there would be need to strengthen bilateral relations with Angola.
He said because of the growing importance of North-Western Province in national development, a PF government would set up a second oil refinery to cater for crude oil from Angola.

Mr Lubinda, who is Kabwata Member of Parliament, said Zambia has not taken full advantage of her position as a neighbour of an oil-producing country.

“The importation of oil from Angola would lead to the stability of pump prices and ensure continued supply of the commodity as the two oil supply sources will supplement each other,” he said.

He said a government led by Mr Sata would also review the existence of the Energy Regulation Board (ERB) and consider its relevance to the current economic situation in the country.

Mr Lubinda said an examination of the ERB would be with a view to either phasing it out or restructuring its operations to ensure efficient service delivery.
He said the PF believes that the Ministry of Energy could handle the work being done by the ERB.

Currently, Zambia imports crude oil through Dar es Salaam in Tanzania and it is pumped through the Tazama pipeline to Ndola where it is refined at Indeni Oil Refinery before it is distributed throughout the country.

Times of Zambia

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212 COMMENTS

  2. G-SPOT point mudala!!!we know that you are going to do all these things, i just can’t for you take you rightful positions as you form government!!!!

    VIVA PF!!!!

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  5. Ba Cycle Mata, you failed to put up a pipeline when you were FJT’s henchman, what makes you think you can do it this time around?! That said, Sata seems to have hired some good speech writers & is sounding rather articulate of late, the only pity is that he’s still a wolf in sheeps clothing…

  6. Well,those are issues we are talking about.I sure we need another refinery plant in Zambia,maybe will reduce on high fuel prices currently eperiencing in the country.

  7. “The importation of oil from Angola would lead to the stability of pump prices and ensure continued supply of the commodity as the two oil supply sources will supplement each other,” he said.

    my personal favorite!!! lets move on and change Zambia for the better.

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  8. Dont cheat people lubinda. Such projects can not be done in three years! What make you so sure that Angola are for the idea?

  12. Sata was in power for a long time and never thought of that. And now wants to talk thru’ Lubinda and give such ideas. It won’t work. Too late PF. Levy opened up the area and they will connect to Angola soon.

  13. Ba Al Fahim, you are a total Mental patient and i dnt know why still keep talking. PF aleisa dnt worry you will be given the right to medication

  14. What a good idea. but implementation. African politicians have the disease of making a lot of promises and dlivering none.

  16. All you pipo hating on us PF supporters you should know that we are not just PF supports we are change supporters…
    VIVA SATA!!!

    VOTE FOR SATA!!!!

    VOTE PABWAAAATO!!!!

    VOTE FOR CHANGE!!!!

  18. Why didnt sata do all these things when he was in government? The usual lies. By the way what are the real names for Given Lubinda. The guy is not from western province. The father is scotish and his mother a Toka Leya.

  20. #8,DNT BE LIKE A PESIMIST WHO SEES DIFFICULT IN EVERY OPPORTUNITY,BUT BE LIKE AN OPTIMIST WHO SEES OPPORTUNITY IN EVERY DIFFICULT….DNT FAIL B4 U TRY,THTS Y U DNT PROGRESS…!

  23. #12 and #18 Sata was not “in power for a long time”, he was never in the position to make such a decision, he was working for the current president of the time

  24. Promises but no action.Where was Sata all the years he served in govt? Well i hope Zambians decides better than what sounds sweet.

  25. Mune Solwezi#21 Na Mukandawire Nokia#23, maka fye mudala wesu…Bauzeni Banvhesese aba ba Nyama Soya-RB na ba boastful rich boy-HH

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  29. Let us think beyond the man who whenever he opens his mouth it is a lie, insult or something he will later say i was misunderstood. What is the nature of this crude oil from Angola? Do we have the technology to crack this oil? How long will it take to complete the “plant”. What shall be the cost of production for this CRUDE OIL? And you say the man has scored? You will find that it will b more cheaper to import and hence low pump prices than the PF ideas.

  31. Ba Kombe and others, Michael Sata was in Government and not in POWER. By now we ought to understand Zambian politics. The PRESIDENT calls the shots. Any dissent – bruised and shown the door. My hope is that this be Sata’s idea. This talk of refining oil from Angola has been on and off over the last decade and it will take the political will of the Republican President to implement

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  37. # 35 Ibaange libi saana mudala wandi ya! you are THE SPECTATOR,Real Spectator!! will Vote and is Voting for TATA SATA-check that rhyme!!!

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  38. Abena Lombe; why then didn’t MMD deliver what it is promising now… knowing it’s been in power for about 20 years. You people never cease to amuse me! Busy blaming it on the politicians and yet they are human just like you. Human behavior is dynamic, at least today’s Grade twos know. Sata might not have implemented it then because he was not in the driver’s sit. Why do you think most of the praises were directed at Mwanawasa, and not to the people that might have suggested them forth? Sata is human, with a disciplinarian attitude and zeal; he stands better to implement most, though not all the promissory note being aired today. At least PF can start something great in these 3 years!

  41. Late president LPM told us that sata will only rule over his dead body. So let’s fulfil his wish and vote for sata!
    Pabwatooo

  42. Choosing political parties is as mysterious a business as that of choosing a mate. Nobody can tell you exactly what will attract you – or distract you. But there are some simple principles that are worth noting and observing. These include:

    1.The political party you support should have natural leaders – the sort of people you would be proud to call your own in both the good times and in crisis…

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  43. This “charismatic” factor is no side-issue, as the difficulties being experienced by the British Conservative party in staging a comeback clearly illustrate – three leaders have been tried as potential opponents of Tony Blair and found wanting. Will the fourth succeed? That is not a Zambian concern; but the qualities of Michael Sata are of primary concern. Can he take the heat? Anyone but a recluse knows the answer is: Yes. Can he inspire those who are losing hope?

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  45. …Ask any unemployed town dweller or village farmer – again Yes. Michael is so obviously a natural, charismatic leader that the fact is often used as a criticism by politicians of duller coloration. It is hard not to be jealous of someone who stops the traffic when he comes on Radio Phoenix.

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  46. Sure, there is nothing good that can come a durst bin. SATA has done no good through out his urgly political career. He fought ALL those who meant well by discouraging KAFUPI’s bid for 3rd term. He insulted everyone who spoke the truth. He was Kafupi’s right hand man. How would you say he had no power to do good yet he had power to chop people’s ears in Chamawa? Shame. SATA does not qualify to discuss the implications of opening a new fuel refinary.

  47. Babora ba Sata, good point big man we are behind you. Ba mmd bafuna batiname manje, 17 years failures. shame mmd with your corrumption manners. mutupwalalike ku tuma developments mulechita nomba.

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  49. 2.The political party you support should have credible leaders who you know from their histories are capable of doing what they say they will do. This is a rare ability amongst politicians, and not merely because of the want of management experience in so many of them….

    Read on>>>

  50. ….There are always interest groups whose interests are threatened by strong political leadership and a good leader needs to know how to neutralize or persuade them. The track record of PF President Michael Sata in Government show clearly that the PF is a party whose leaders know their way around the jungle of government…..

    READ ON>>>

  51. ….Ask anyone who was in the ministries of Local Government, Health or Agriculture during the relevant periods when they were headed by those who are now the leaders of PF. The cleaning of lavatories and the emptying of in-trays are as import to real governance as exotic concepts and plans!

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  53. 3.The political party you support should have a clear philosophy and explicit policy positions on representative and important issues. A detailed party “manifesto” often reveals nothing, except a ragbag of good or goodish ideas….

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  54. …. Far more important is a party’s position on overarching issues such as privatization / nationalization; the size of government versus the size of the productive sector (intimately tied up with taxation)…

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  55. ….the valuation of the kwacha and its impacts on the balance between producers and consumers; the balance of benefit and rights between workers and employers….

    GO ON>>>>

  56. …These are all real issues on which the PF has been very explicit where other parties, including opposition parties, have not. In mid-2005 Michael Sata was even put in jail for voicing support for striking mineworkers; but he and the PF have not retracted their stand to date.

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  58. Those questioning why this was not done before? Should realise that there is a difference between ‘being in government’ and being head of government. Lets wisen up a little for the sake of forwardness.

  61. ba #10 There’s a diffrence between a president of a nation and a minister. You follow the programmes laid down and you can not over rule or impose your policies if they are either not welcomed nor given an ear. Thats that!

  62. Have we given you enough reason to support PF? please support PF and

    VOTE FOR MICHEAL CHILUFYA SATA!!!!!

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  63. bonse mwebaaletukana tatwamwasuke!!!pantu mwalatubepesha!!!!!

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    VIVA SATA AND THE FRONT OF PATRIOTISM!!!!!

  66. Well well well,looks like someone has got some brains after all,this is a one rare good idea from the old man or is the party collectively! clap clap clap clap!!!!

  67. I’m extreemly amazed on how much hate there is for Sata by my fello bloggers. Honestly, most of u showin the hate are mostly the HH supporters. If u see that he Sata is gainnin ground more than yo candidate be it HH or the sugar daddy, do MORE GROUND WORK to gain a mile further rather showin yo true colours in bein tribal and regionalism. Accept facts and work harder with tight lips. Learn from RB’S scandals, everytime he opens his mouth at a rally somethings somehow comes out wrong. Nomba nabaice naba mu mwenamo just because of bwatu bwatu of no substance- cheap talk! Let’s be realistic pipo. Appriciate initiative and wisdom in some of these pipo we have as presidential aspirants.

  69. THANK YOU SATA WE WELCOME YOUR IDEA PLEASE DO IT AS SOON AS YOU GO TO PLOT ONE RB CAN GO TO HANG WITH HIS MMD/UNIP SYMBOL

  70. mlebelelako mudala wandi #69, utuloo twalifulisha as well pointed out by HH. this RB guy does not know whether he is going or coming, yaalishupa!!!!

    SATA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

  71. Crude oil from Angola need to be cracked before it can be processed. The crude from Tanzanian is already broken down ready fro refinery. This is an ambitious project that if correctly implemented could save a lot of money for our people.

  72. Sata!!! where was he all this time without seeing the need to build the oil pipe line to Angola? Sata is one of the people that has failed Zambia. We need fresh blood this time around and this can only be HH. VIVA HH!!! VOTE HH!!!

  73. It’s a good idea, a proper refinery needs to be done sooner or later or we will have to go back to ox carts. Sata can make it happen

  74. Pliz “The Spectator” gives us more so that we know! You know most of us wen the things u have mentioned were happenin, we were either doin our primary or junior secondary. Tell them!

  77. Great idea, I think we should have two pipelines, one through North Western (zambezi, Chavuma) and another through Western (Lukulu or Shangombo). PF has people with great ideas just like this one. I have hope that we still have people with a vision to develop Zambia and bring it our true value and power as a nation. RB will have to cook up some greater ideas and HH must come up with the greatest ideas otherwise PF is winining us over with these great ideas that are propagating.

    Viva Progress, Viva Great Ideas, One Zambia One Nation!!

  78. Vote sata, the only man for this country or zambia.He can do best to develop zambia.Rupiah Banda can not develop this country is very dull.HH is good also but not year but for 2011 is ok for him, like is good.PLEASE lets change this guy the so called MMD work pu zambians plz plz.

  79. #72 the same can be asked about RB why did he not do the things he is promising right now when he had the chance from the 1960s to date. A lot of people respect Sata because of the way PF has turned itself into the voice of the people. Can people please pump sense in HH to strike a last minute deal with PF to form government. If HH was willing to serve as minister under RB why can’t he do it with Sata. HH knows that he lacks the experience so the best he can do is join forces with PF.

  80. ABENA MICHEAL EYA YE ABENA MICHEAL EYA YE ABENA MICHEAL EYA YE ABENA MICHEAL EYA YE ABENA MICHEAL EYA YE ABENA MICHEAL EYA YE VIVA PF!!!!

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  83. This is another stupid statement from a desperate PF. Indeni can not process crude from Angola because it of a different type. Refining this crude is more expensive. What PF should give us is the complete picture of how they are going to refine this crude and how much it is going to cost to (a) build the pipeline (b) build another refinery. Once they have told us that, then they should tell us how they are going to finance the two projects. They should also tell us how long that would take from planning to actual starting having fuel at the pumps. I DON’T THINK 3 YEARS IS FEASIBLE!!!!

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  85. Talk about the cost of putting up the oil pipe line first and then we will see if it makes sence.

    What feasibillity studies have been taken for such a project? What is the real advantage of having this pipe line and how will it be implimented?

    Imagine the Kafue Hydro power station was first espoused way before the sixies and it is just be implimented now.

    A hydro power station located in Kafue would have been more advantageous that at Kariba for its central location.

  87. Building a Refinery plus Pipeline from Angola to zambia is possible but not easy (15years program) plus billions of Dollars.

    Maintenance and emprovement of of Indeni could be much easier and possible because the Govt has already started it and its yielding fruit such us; no more breakdowns at Indeni,Indeni is producing unleaded petrol as per the modern requirement.

    A pipeline from Angola to Indeni plus Hydrocarbon Craker is possible.
    But Pipeline plus Refinery is quiet expensive and could call for heavy borrowing. Lets maintain Indeni than talking of almost impossibilities.The refinery has been undergoing re-capitalisation.
    and it can save the country to the uttermost.

  88. ME # 83 at least Sata is coming up with someting.No matter what the expense is, this is one project Zambia cant shy away from.10 -20 years from now Zambia would have cut costs because of this project. And by the way Sata can initiate the project and someone can finish. These are what we call long term development plans

  89. To talk about puting up a pipe line without looking at feasibillity is merely dreaming.

    It is like saying we build houses for everybody in Zambia so that all Zambians are happy.

  90. Well said number 88. In the next 15 to 20years INDENI wont have the capacity to effeiciently cater for the country. We have to start now looking at alternatives. we should not be afraid to borrow money if it will be used for a capital project like this. Once the project is finished our kids will have us to thank . Let us sacrifice now whn the costs are lower. Already Sata is starting to make sense before he even goes into state house. Imagine what he can do once he is there

  91. LADIES & GENTS, WHO KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WENT WRONG WITH THE NATIONALISATION OF ZAMBIA’S COPPER MINES? WHAT WOULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY IF WE WERE TO REPOSSESS THE MINES FROM THE INVESTORS AND STARTED RUNNING THEM AS ZAMBIANS?

  92. SATA IS ALWAYS FORWARD THINKING.MOST BLOGGERS ARE LOOKING AT THE COST BUT ONE MUST LOOK AT THE LONG TERM BENEFITS.THE REASONING BY SOME BLOGGERS FROM EUROPE IS DISHEARTINING HOW CAN THEY SAY WE MUST JUST MAINTAIN INDENI,WHERE IS THE FORWARD THINKING YOU CHAPS MUST COME BACK HOME, #83,85, 87 ESPECIALLY MULE TU SEBANYA.

  93. # 91 WHO IS TALKING OF NATIONALISING ANYTHING HERE. THIS IS WHAT IAM SAYING YOU CHAPS IN UK, USA YOU JUST CANT GET IT RIGHT CAN YOU? YOU ARE EXPOSED YET YOU KEEP GOING BACKWARDS. WHAT KANAMA ARE YOU GUYS FROM

  94. Really Sata is made, he cheated people of Mpika central for vote for him as Mp so that he can improve the water system in Mpika and he was voted for. But up to now people of Mpika are just moving with containers looking for water. I surprised again him start cheating people of North western province that he will connect Zambia with an oil pipe line with Angola those are just lies. Lekeni Sata atwale ubushilu mwa Chitulika not ukulabepa abena Zambia Kabwa sana. Viva RB Viva MMD. Aba bonse bufi balebepa. RB can make agriculture move forward since he is a farmer himself not the rest.

  95. That what is called desperation gentlemen. SATA’s political carear has been a miscarriege always on the wrong side of the fence. THIRD TERM, NAKAWALA, 2yr PRISON TERM, TAIWAN INSTEAD OF CHINA, MUGABE FOR INAUGURATION CEREMONY,EXPELLED ALL MPs WHEN HE NEEDED THEM MOST . WHAT A LONE MAN. anyway there are a lot of benefits in being an opposition leader, attnding state functions and donor aid SATA must have gotten the trick from CHAMA CHAKOMBOKA and KEN NGONDO now MIYANDA has also joined the game.

  96. Im a Zambian, but i just dont understand why even enlightened and educated citizens can so blindly support Sata,in this advanced 21st century. Honestly should we even consider such spent old politicians for such a high and exhorted office.I think KK and CHILUBA can see clearly through this man and know him better that he aint Presidential.Lets put Zambia first and vote for quality leadership, please imwe bantu,not THESE DAMN OLD CLOWNS OF SESAME STREET AND MUPPET SHOW.

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  98. #89,wats the problem wit u kanshi???? u r jst so negative,u r the pipo taking zambia backwards.u shud learn to look beyond yo nose….!no matter how long it may take,provided at the end of the day we solve the current problem of fuel.am sure u r for RB…try to wake up…!

  99. Bushe ka Given Lubinda nika mwenye nangu mutundu nshi. Ako kamuntu nikamwenye nomba kailanga ukukwata uluse kubena Zambia pakuti bakasale elyo nomba kebe indalama ukutwala ku India kumwabo.

  100. # 18 so what if his father is Scottish and mother toka laya? Just like you, he had no control over his parentage; he is a good parliamentarian, resilient, hard working, and forecast under a good leader. Viva pf nipabwato.

  101. There’s nothing that we’l beleive about Sata. unless we see what he is going to do. But for now He’s just like Nyama soya.

  102. This idea from PF is the only solution for Zambia with regards to stable fuel prices. Indeni can be upded by installing a craker to enable it start processing crude from Angola. Indeni is fractional distillation plant of the feed stock coming from Kuwait. It cannot process crude from oil wells. Weldone PF at least we ve right thinking pipo in Zambia after all.

    No one had a heart to do this KK, Kafupi and LPM.

  103. FUEL CRISIS,,.frank with you gentlemen its more expensive to import crude oil and later refine than just to import petroleum and disel redy for use. anyboy who attended the last EIZ comference in livingston last week is aware about this issue. building an oil refinery is also not an easy thing, equipment is not off the shelf, refinery has to designed based on the exact type of crude then manufactured based on the design, gentlemen Mr Sata doesnt know what he is talking about. not even the designs can be compeleted in the three years that he is campagning for.

  104. FUEL CRISIS,,.to be frank with you gentlemen, its more expensive to import crude oil and later refine than just to import petroleum and disel ready for use. anyboy who attended the last EIZ comference in livingston last week is aware about this issue. Building an oil refinery is also not an easy thing, equipment is not bought off the shelf, refinery has to designed based on the exact type of crude and equipment manufactured based on the design, gentlemen Mr Sata doesnt know what he is talking about. not even the designs can be compeleted in the three years that he is campagning for.

  105. No one is against long term developmental projects such as Building of new refinery and Pipeline but we are saying these are serious programs which should not just be prounced as campaign tools.

    If Sata is serious about this program obviously every zambian will support him but it will be just sad if he is using this language just to win a vote. This is nothing about supporting RB, HH OR SATA but about zambia as a nation. Ask Mr Sata to tell you how is going to do this program. We are not doubting him but we are concerned as citizens and want to learn from him. How many companies were closed by FJT have been rescercitated?

  106. I thought PF policy was to have a friendly war with Angola in order to gauge our strength, where has the building of pipelines come into this?

  107. #98

    Just read what you said when adressing me. You will be shocked at yourself. ‘no matter how long …. the present problem’

    Contradiction, try again.

  108. #106 what are you talking about, where did you hear that policy, Fraca’s Corner? Zambia has no military strength because all the defense money has been chewed so we have 5 jets and about 3 helicopters (plus RB’s ride)

  109. ABENA COPPERBELT YOUR HH IS NOT THINKING OF THE PIPELINE.FOR NOW LET HIM THINK UPTO 2011 FOR SATA HE HAS ALREADY THOUGHT.

  110. Its not easy to import finished products and satisfy the market because of the location of zambia on african map.Importations have always landed us in to shortages we have tried it before.

    Refining can be expensive but atleast we are sure of having a product on the market.

  111. LADIES & GENTS, WHO KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT WENT WRONG WITH THE NATIONALISATION OF ZAMBIA’S COPPER MINES? WHAT WOULD WE DO DIFFERENTLY IF WE WERE TO REPOSSESS THE MINES FROM THE INVESTORS AND STARTED RUNNING THEM AS ZAMBIANS?

  113. Very creative thinking, WE NEED THIS INNOVATIVE THINKING IN THE GVT…

    IF THAT CAN BE AGREED WHY NOT……. pls compliment where positive… dont just criticize… remember ”not all that counts can be counted and not all that can be counted counts”

  114. Sata in plot one will be a disaster. Please Zambians pray for this country for the benefit of the future generations. The life span for Sata is coming to an end soon, he wont care what he does in plot one. PLEASE PLEASE LET UNITE IN PRAYERS.

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  117. #anonymous you are saying importation is not easy and can land us into problems. and then you are suggesting refining is better. dont wonder how the crude to refine will come in, wont it come through importation???

  118. #110 anonymous you are saying importation is not easy and can land us into problems. and then you are suggesting refining is better. dont you wonder how the crude to refine will come in, wont it come through importation???

  119. #114 Mune iwe bushe niwe KOLOKOMBWA tawaishiba ati pafwa bantu pashala bantu – Lubinda will take over when that happen!!!!!

  120. Late President Mwanawasa told the nation that SATA will only rule over his dead body.So let’s fufil his wish and Vote FOR SATA for Levy’s legacy to prevail.VIVA PF VIVA [PABWATOOOOOOOO!]

  121. Very soon RB and HH will be talking about the pipeline from Angola. In 2006 Sata talked about low taxes, MMD and UPND laughed at him. They asked him how he was going to get money to run government. Today, even those who laughed the loudest, MMD, are saying low taxes. Sata leads others follow. Shame. And this is the man they call a grade 4.

  122. We want a President who offers clear plans to rebuild our economy from the bottom up, lower healthcare costs, low taxes not tax cuts for the wealthy and giant corporations but for the ordinary Zambians, a clear education structure which is inclusive. All this must being done with an ordinary Zambian in mind. The Tiger economies are what they are today because they first looked at their inner selves as a people. They had radical leaders who inspired and motived them into believing that they are humans who can make a difference. China was closed from the outside world for over twenty years, today China can stand up against powerful nations like the USA. Study the political history of China. Fe

  123. Fear is what kills us. There times in the history of a country when you need a leader who will inspire the citizenery. Ignite that sleeping gaint in us and make us believe that we can make a difference. Zambia todays need a leader who will change our attitudes, change the way we look at ourselves and remove this spirit of laziness in us, remove fear and institute in us the spirit of courage and oneness. The best investors for Zambia are the Zambians themselves. We must take a leaf from Botswana. Investment policies must be formulated around the Zambain people of course taking into account globalisation issues.

  124. #121 uncle phil to be frank with you its more expensive to import crude oil and later refine than just to import petroleum and disel redy for use. anyboy who attended the last EIZ comference in livingston last week is aware about this issue. building an oil refinery is also not an easy thing, equipment is not off the shelf, refinery has to designed based on the exact type of crude then manufactured based on the design, gentlemen Mr Sata doesnt know what he is talking about. not even the designs can be compeleted in the three years that he is campagning for.

  125. #117 I meant importing of finished products not crude oil. We have a Pipeline for crude but we dont have one for Petrol, diesel,kerosene,jet oil, HFO etc. All these cannot be pumped through one pipeline unless we reconstruct it.

    Importation by road is the one i said cant help us because of the distance from the port(2000km).This will definately land us in to unbearable shortages.

  126. To add on to what Uncle Phil has said: Sata campaigned in 2006 about revisiing the tax regime for mining companies and initially MMD was quiet. When they (MMD )rigged elections and came back into power , they implimented more or less what SATA had been raising in his campaign. Yes, the man leads and they follow!

  127. #125 ok good point though transporting petrol and jet fuel along a pipeline would mean fire departments all along the way, these liquids are highly inflamable and in the event of a leak a fire would move all through the pipeline. the pipeline itself would become a Bomb worse the storage tanks. then pumping stations would all be in flames in a split second. imagine what an engineering disaster it would be!!!

  128. #HH supporters in Zambia, please door-to-door campaigning is yielding results at home. It is working and it has worked already. It does not need us to wait for HH to reach all Zambians. We, HH’s supporters, have a role to play instead of complaining.

    October 30, 2008 will be a shocking day to most unprepared Zambians. This race is not for TIMID souls. I therefore reiterate that RBB must immediatelly start campaining for HH and endorse HH for Zambian President if RR wants to retain the position of Zambian Veep. Otherwise, Viva HH, Lubinda and Sata in the 1st GNU for Zambian under PF-UPND PACT.

  129. Partisan politics aside, that is a good idea. I don’t think you have to be a PF supporter to recognize a good idea. Whether or not he is just playing politics is another issue that remains to be seen. Lets wait and see what RB and HH’s response will be. We DEFINATELY need a new approach to our energy needs.

  130. #34
    you are wasting your time……face reality your HH will not win this year whether you walk naked or not! get out of the kakoon and remove the webs on your face.AFTER 30 October, you will agree!

  131. ..What makes PF think that the crude from Angola will be cheaper? Angola is an OPEC member which abides by rules that govern it. We shall still import the crude at the market oil price.
    Low taxes, more jobs, higher wages and now a refinery? please.. if people belive this crap, then the tax payers wasted their money to send all of us to school..

  133. #99
    You are evil and ignorant and illiterate, that’s why your submission is in vernacular, you mean you donot know that there are whites who are Zambians by birth due to intermarriage? have you ever heard that Lubinda has gone to INDIA to visit relatives? shame to you! LUBINDA is a proper Zambian (mu Zambian Inkonko)GO BACK TO SCHOOL ENROLL YOUR SELF IN NITE SCHOOL SO THAT AT LEAST YOU CAN COMMUNICATE IN THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE

  134. Am new on this site but this is my observation;
    1. This is a good site but people dont stick to the subject. If its fuel talk about fuel and not much of SATA,HH OR RB.
    2.Make contribution to the nation’s interest. People insult because they take things so personal.
    3.There people on this blog who really know what they talk about like on fuel issues i expect those who do not know much about this sector to put up question then us experts adress them.
    Please stick to the subject and ask questions so that we can post answers for you. am in Energy sector

  135. WE ARE FOR HH NI PAKUBOKOOOOOOO CHABEEE..VOTE HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH..FOR PLOT ONE COME 30/10/08…HH IS WINNING..GOD BE WITH US ALL. ….

  136. ba 132, true that RB chap is shreak!!!! bet he bribed the priest to baptise him. Worse still he bribed that parents of his wife so that he marries at kama small chap.

  137. ERB handles a lot of issues that a government ministry can’t manage. Don’t make this mistake of phasing it out. But it’s a fact that finding new sources for oil is important and North-Western province is a good entry point.

  138. #133 you right, there are whites who are Zambian by birth but i dont think you can get a pure white through intermarriages..i believe you meant coloreds

  139. #134

    Now since you are in the Energy Sector, please clarify, Do we need to carry out a feasibility study for importation of crude oil from Angola? what is the difficulty about importing crude oil? i have noticed some bloggers think it cannot be done taking into consideration, the cost of laying pipe lines? what is your stand campaigning outside but Zambia at heart? Do you think it can work? coz the fuel is so expensive in Zambia compared to other countries on the African CONTINENT, WE EVEN FEAR TO BUY VEHICLES

  140. # 139 HEZEL EYES YOU DINT ASK ME BUT MAYBE I CAN HELP. THE CRUDE OIL IN ANGOLA HAS A DIFFERENT CARBON CONTENT AND VISCOUSITY(thickness) compared to what indeni was designed to refine. in terms of processed or ready to use fuel you cant use a pipeline becayse petrol is highly inflamable in case of a leak and would attract thieves(security issues)the only allternative is road or rail however historicaly diplomatic relations between english and portugese colonies where not as they are now so there was no chance for negotiation but this time things have changed for the better.

  141. Good point Bo Lubinda, but we need Green Fuels not fossil fuels…..slightly behind Bo ndate Lubinda

    Go green not Global Warming

  142. Constructing a refinery and putting up a pipeline will very costly venture.Even if the actual cost of refining the crude might reduce, the final price of fuel will still high coz of the cost of putting these that will be reflected the final price unless they tell us they wont get a loan to finance this exercise.
    I think the most viable route is to import already refined fuel & transport it through Tazama like was the case before Indeni was built in 1973.

  143. True said number #134
    People take things very personal,there’s only a few intellectual debaters you can trace among the bloggers. I think it does reflect a little of how and why certain zambians vote for our lethargic leaders. They dont question policies, people are excited at promises and trully believe our politicians out of desperation and hope or if not that then tribal lines.

  145. In 90 days Sata will introduce very low taxes (within 90 days), improve the lives of the poorest people by building them modern houses, also within 90 days, give jobs to all unemployed nurses and teachers, increasing the salaries of all teachers, policemen, students, etc also in 90 days.

    In addition he will build a new refinery and an oil pipeline.

    All that’s left is a cure for AIDS, cancer, high blood pressure, Ebola and find a way to walk on water. Sata must be the second coming of christ!!!!! Viva PF, who needs the boat, they can walk on water

  146. Bamuntu muletontokanya the old michael was under somebody’s control that’s the reason y he did not perform up to your expectation as u you think u shallow minded.Come november 1 PF will form a new gornment whether u like it or not.We are behind u big man(sata).

    NIPABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  147. #137

    I dont agree with you. They are a waste of resources and a useless middle men/ women. Who needs an organisation that should only come to tell us the price of fuel has been increased or reduced . ZESCO tarrifs will be increased . We dont need them. They can come to your home may be if you still need them.

  150. Logged in late today, having discussed refinery issues extensively yesterday.

    Seeing that some bloggers toll the political line here, is it possible to debate issues ie what is the counter proposal from the MMD, HP and UPND. Surely if they were to debate before an audience like is done in the USA, the political parties will be expected to respond to what Sata has just said. Can we hear from the other camps. Have they thought about having another refinery or bringing in crude oil from Angola. What options do they have for the country and how do they propose to secure continued oil supply and affordable prices, especially that consumption in Zambia is clearly going up with increased mining

  151. I have just realized that most of the contributors on this forum don’t really have any understanding of the issues they contribute on. Most just make use of their newly-acquired access to the internet and sit and blog endlessly with no meaningful contribution to make. And we wonder why Zambia is still in the last century!

  153. #142, basic economics tells you that an unfinished or “unrefined” product is much cheaper than a refined one, as is the case with oil. The pipeline may be an expensive venture but one that in needed nonetheless. Think of it as a long term investment. We cannot approach our 21st century energy needs with archaic 20th century solutions like you suggest. You are suggesting we go back to importing refined oil like we did in the 1970’s. Are you kidding me? Shouldn’t we be moving forward and not backward seeing as we are way behind to begin with? The problem we as a country have is that we dont think long term. We trip ourselves up by saying “its too expensive” and never find ways around it.

  154. #139. That is good questioning. You may be interested to read some of my contributions yesterday when they reported Govt had struck a deal to finance oil import thru PTA and Finance bank. We discussed some reasons why fuel is expensive in Zambia. Thanks #134 and others for your contributions. We are learning from each other.

    Signing off, have a good weekend in Zambia and wherever else in the world you are.

  155. Promises,promises,promises.Is he going to keep them though?How about stop smoking cigars?Can you handle that?that’s seems to be the easiest thing he can start with.As for me i don’t buy all his nosense.

  156. SATA is lacking good advisers. Even if we are oposing him, he should not disgrace us Zambians with such empty rhetorics.

    Consult and then comment. Whether we like it or not he is representing a section of ZAMBIA’s thinking embarrasingly

  157. RB had said that the campaign should be based on issues. This issue of oil supply certainly is one that should be debated by the candidates since development of our country depend on how this matter is handled along side, argriculture and transportation sectors. There for need for RB to spell out what MMD policy on the petroleum sector will be. The problems in the sector are structure and can’t be addressed through political if not campaign motivated price reductions which are not sustainable.PF proposal would result in a structure solution to the problem and the benefits in terms of removing middlemen, logistics,reduced freight and transport saving would be enomous.

  158. Sata would do that.I’ve respect 4 him.He can’t be educated like some people but has ideas.Leadership is not going to university.I’m at university but i see lot of guys without ideas.Sata can be a good president since has worked in govt before and knows the problems we are facing.
    Vava Pf
    viva lubinda
    Bwatoooooooofye

  159. Free and Friendly advice to Honourable Sata:

    Life Improvement Plan
    For 2009, Sata MC must sit for Grade 7 examiniations
    For 2010, Sata MC must sit for Grade 9 examiniations
    For 2011, Sata MC must sit for 2 subjects Grade 12 examiniations best options English and Geography.
    For 2012, Sata MC must sit for 2 subjects Grade 12 examiniations best options History and Mathematics.
    For 2013, Sata MC must sit for 2 subjects Grade 12 examiniations best options Commerce and Principles of Accounts.
    For 2014 Sata must so a short computer course.

  160. #154 continued.
    Free and Friendly advice to Honourable Sata:

    Life Improvement Plan

    For 2016 Sata must stand for Zambian President under PF.

  161. if all these important issues were raised before campaign people would no doudt vote for you mudala. hope its not campaign tactics. these days mudala there is sense in what you are saying, lets hope its for real.

  162. Everyone with 5+ senses is talking about alternative fuels and you think pipe line what a sub 6. You smoke pipes and think everyone should get into pipes, shame.

  163. #162, do you have delusions of grandure, have you forgotten that you are in Zambia. What technology industry do we posess that would facilitate the development and production of alternative fuels in Zambia? Do think the alternative fuels produced in other countries will be carried with the winds and brought to Zed? First things first, we need to minimize the cost of importing crude oil and increase our capacity to process it. Don’t get me wrong, we do need to be thinking of alternative fuels, but we have to be realistic. We are several decades behind as a continent and as such it will take us longer to get to the level of developed countries. We need to invest in establishing a tech industry

  164. What we need is not naive measures to gain political mileage. Zambia needs serious founding to do research at UNZA in biofuels so that we can produce our own fuel in Zambia. Brazil has done it and we can do it only that we can do it better.So the UPND and HH are giving us all a better plan for Zambia. This is education from Grade 1 to university. The Zimbabwean Government under so much confusion is able to sponsor students to study in South Africa on sponsorship. Botswana is doing it too – infact not only to South Africa but the whole World. As a Botswana Citizen you just choose where you want to go and study. Sponsorship u receive allows u to buy a car use it to go to school every day.

  165. number 5 wechipuba, how can you change things when you are under someone, a dificult president for that matter. zambians lets change our thinking.How many things can you control in your fathers house compared with youir own?

  166. #164 continued.
    So H o n o u r a b l e Sata s t a n d s to benefit from the w o u l d b e HH’s free education U P N D policy

  167. @ Ici Shinka … # 163,

    It was only last year that prez Mugabe commissioned a paprika bio fuel plant,South Korean made at a cost of only $18 million US dollars,

    according to him this bio fuel was meant to be used in agric equipment,i.e tractors,combine harvesters,electric generators etc,

    now if the old man can be so boldly forwardly looking why not we,

    instead of this pabwato,HH,RB sh!t…..we need visionaries pls,we are tired

  168. #166 continued.
    …and all he (S a t a) has to w o r r y about is s t u d y hard to p a s s the e x a m s.
    Once UNZA and other public universities are up and running in a h e al t h y m a n n e r, we can then move mountains in all sectors of our economy.

    I am Over and out now.

  169. #164 Maestro, what does your candidate propose to do in order to ensure that we have energy security. We have heard Sata’s proposals which you term as “naive measures to gain political mileage”. So what practical and non-political solution does HH have with regard to our fuel requirements?

  170. #169. Please visit w w w . hakainde . com. All pertaining your querris is outlined there. You can also directly request for that data by asking the UPND people to allow you some time to discuss this issue with HH by writing to them on the contact address. You can also give a suggestion to them for Hh to addres the issue public on the website’s send us your view. I will be back in a week’s time. Thank you for your understanding.

  171. So #167 Child of the Soil, according to your estimation, setting up such a plant in zed would meet the tremendous fuel needs we have in the Zambia. I get what you are saying and that is a step in the right direction and should be explored. That however, will not adequately meet the energy needs Zambia has NOW. The same countries that are actively engaged in biofuels developlment are also involved in maximizing crude oil prospecting and drilling because they realize that, for now, biofuels would be enough to meet their needs.

    I agree we need “practical” visionaries and not a bunch of baseless politics.

  172. And what about wind,solar,and clean coal energy need i add nuclear,

    all these are issues which need debating and exploring,instead of these perpetual insult

    we need to reduce the burden on ZESCO, instead of erecting power lines and all these costly cables to rural areas under this rural electrification program,

    why not take solar panels there? wudn’t it be quicker and cheaper

  173. #170. This is all that HH talks about with reference to meeting Zambia’s fuel needs. I may be wrong but this is skeletal at best.It is devoid of specifics…the HOW is not apparent and that is what we are looking for. I have written to him on several occasions with suggestions and am yet to get a response.

    “5. Further, we will promote solar, wind and other environmentally acceptable energy sources.UPND will reduce the cost of fuel and electricity to affordable levels to enable a bus Driver to make more many and reduce the cost of transporting goods. This will also make landlords to reduce the cost of house rentals.”

  174. #172, I looked into solar panels a while back and they are not cheap particularly when you rely on others to manufacture them as is the case with us. It should be one of the avenues we take because we have a lot of sun, however we need to put in the necessary financial investement and set up the apporpriate infrustructure to produce them cheaply at a local level.

  178. …and if we find oil in NW province, would we use the same pipe line to export it via Angola? sort out the load shedding first before you make false promises!!

  179. Good thinking. This is the kind of thinking that progressive people pay attention to. Yes crude oil can be pumped from Angola and a new refinery can be built to process oil from that part of the Africa. There are various types of crude oil and refineries are designed to process specific types of oil. This would call for investment and there are companies ready to invest in this type of activity.

    The fact is Mr Sata is a man of action and he will do it.

  180. What a STUPID idea ! How does one build a pipeline to Angola without Angola’s agreement ? Is the problem of oil in Zambia one of capacity of TAZAMA or one of INDENI capacity to process. SATA is so cheap he talks about things he does not understand. If he wins God save us !

  182. SATA us not stupid.For the goverment in power for PF the will do it. the way tanzania and Zambia did in 1968.The same after Sata win this 30th OCTOMBER 2008 election NORTH WESTERN PIPEILNES wil be opened if you have no idea the way Presindent SATA will do it just go and sleep Mr Cheese.

  184. VIVA HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    A WISE MAN WILL ALWAYS DO WISE DICISIONS

  185. PECTETA#YOU SEEM TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW I WISH EVERYONE WAS TAKING IT EASY LIKE YOU.WE NEED GOOD IDEAS FROM EVERYONE WTHER PF,HH,OR RB SUPPORTERS NO HATRED OR INSULT’S.
    THE MASTER KNOW’S THE WINNER SO IT IS BETTER TO WAIT UPON THE LORD AS HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN CHANGE THING’S.LET US LOVE ONE ANOTHER THAT THE JOY MAY BE FULL.

    MAY GOD REACHLY BLESS YOU ALL

  188. #180 Mr Cheese. You are really a very dull person. That project is more feasible than free education for all, free medicine for all, free sugar and mealie meal for all, etc. Why should Angola refuse when they want to sell their product. Does Angola choose who to sell to. Only the other day we were discussing why Zambia can’t buy crude oil from Angola, fellow african country. Why do we have to buy from only one far away source-the far east, which makes it even more expensive, and not really promoting trade amongst african countries. You guys, such projects trigger SME in the supply chain. VIVA PF. Thats what pipo would like to hear.

  189. #90 Chimwemwe. Spot on. This is what we call planniong for the future. Due to lack of planning by the current govt Zambia found itself in a situation where ZESCO is unable to provide power to the growing industry. Hence, your loadshading currently being experienced. A lot of money has been borrowed by the previous and current govts only to end in private pockets. Some of it is even being used to bribe chiefs and other voters. If money is going to be borrowed for such a project(s)-Zambians, lets embrace such an idea and quickly vote for that party behind ideas which will directly and instantly benefit…

  190. …the Zambian people. Put it this way-once the project commences, there will be many more companies which will be formed as a direct or indirect result. Hence, millions of job opportunities will be created and you will see citizens getting employed in huge numbers. Not only that-this will in turn attract a lot of proper foreign investors in the chemical industries, road construction (due to abundant tar material. Another way of looking at it is that Zambia is centrally positioned. Therefore, it will be a supplier to other surrounding countries of all by-products of crude iol. Some people are douting this project-a clear indication of how unambitious most zambians are.

  191. #92 TEZE BANTU. This is also my worry. To hear chap from UK and America with terribly shallow thinking. Because they talking from countries where practically nothing is impossible. OK, to be honest, not everyone living in this highly industrialized countries have brains. Although, really even if one came here without any (brains), just the environment itself pumps some into your head. Its like claiming to have attended “National Service”, but never transformed disciplinarily. If its just hating Sata, people better start to adjust their hate. And the sooner the better.

  192. #162 Ba Willy. Have you stopped using petrolium in the US of A? You have even said it-they are just talking about it. And in your own thinking crude oil is only for gas. That why #92 is really doubting chaps residing in this developped countries. Use your head man!

    Don’t you also know that America would want to make the suppliers of crude oil stranded with it as America thinks they fund terrorism from crude oil. Start closing oil wells beginning with Texas.

  193. Dont go around promising things that take time to accomplish just because you’re in campaign mode.
    Remember those commercials in 1991 where they showed Chiluba driving on a perfect road?
    Chiluba made alot of promises before being elected and excited alot of donors who wanted to see change.Did chiluba ever deliver?
    He will go down in history as the worst Zambian president who was thinking about himself alone and not thge ordinary Zambian.
    Sata too is another crook and I’m sure bwana Lubinda you’re a selfish politician who is just power hungry.
    Abash PF,abash Chiluba.

  195. its like you PF chaps you are so confident that you are winning. but the truth on the ground is the opposite. apart from drawing supprt from co boys, your presence is not there in the villages.

    last nite listerning to your leader, left me wondering what is it that you people have seen him which I havent.

  196. You people think the only presidential candidate amongst the 4 is Sata he has the experience from the Presidents he served under he can correct their mistakes and move the country forward. RB is too fast.HH bosting GM docile SATA mwe bantu please twapapata SATAAAAAAAAAAAA !

  197. Sata will definately change the face of this country .Please let us accord him this opportunity or else will see worse things in money bandas (RB) government. The only thing bringing zambia down is that we allow cheap and selfish leaders to control our nation. Vote for the man of action(sata)unlike the corrupt RB ,Giving us things will just make us lazy

  200. 159. What a dull yob u ar.Who told u that any old guy is dull?yo father and mother must be the dullest.Any one reaching 70 s in these “aids” must be highly praised.
    162.Bio fuels need land.our biggest enemy is poverty.pipo here eats one meal.Besides u cant eat fuel.u only use it to transport maize.
    164.80% of us zambians here live in poverty.do u know what parents spent on yo health and education .Our economy is small .its not possible.
    172. do u know what speed of wind u need to make meaningfull windpower here in zambia.dont show yo ignorance.
    175.who told that if u study economics then u will be successful?its about wise down.there a lot of uneducated chaps here who doing better tha

  201. continued from 200.
    -n u chaps there and small lets-wait-and-see degree holders.

    let me caution u.firstly u have fleed our country for green pastures.And u call it educated. who is going to build this county if all who had free education left the country.

    u are not on the ground.just sit in yo one room there.as for me here i having some shake shake beer and chibuku.my wife is preparing village chicken and chibwabwa.

    what about?dont me things sound as though yu are very rich and educated yet yu are an overworked restless yob.we need here ba mwaiche.

  203. Would you put control of the Army and Police in the hands of a man that has paid and armed thugs to use physical force against innocent citizens?

    Would you entrust our democracy and constitution to a man that has been the head of his party for 7 years without being elected and who has openly advocated the amendment of the constitution to remove Presidential term limits?

    Would you entrust the Economy to a man that does not have the educational training or background to understand modern solutions to modern problems?

    Would you entrust the reigns of power to a man who has no consistent position on anything?

    Would you entrust our foreign policy to a man who’s abrasive style and ….

  204. Would you entrust our foreign policy to a man who’s abrasive style and xenophobic attitudes will most likely to cause tension with our international partners?

  205. Would you entrust the taxing job of the Presidency to a man who had a severe heart attack less than 7 months ago?
    Zambians it is important you make a wise and informed decision!

  206. By Chanda Chisala, Zambia on line 2006

    Whatever you do in these elections, do not vote for Michael Chilufya Sata. Vote Mwanawasa or HH or Miyanda or just stay away, but do not vote Michael Sata (I know nothing about Ngondo, but I think he’s a joker). It is very unfortunate that this time around Sata is one of the three or two frontrunners, which is really ridiculous. I just can not understand how so many people in Zambia can forget in such a short time what this man is really about

  207. There are learned men and women who are in PF.I for one I am a Chemical Engineer and the idea of importing crude oil from Angola is feasible and constructing another oil refinery.If we are to develop we must dream and have visions of what we want Zambia to be in 2020 and start preparing and working towards that goal.We must have thinkers who will bring these to fruition.Sata is part of this team and happens to be our leader.In shot he is is our mouth piece of the ideas of lower taxes,empoyees owning shares in their industries ect.So stop insulting our intelligence and concetrate on your plans.VIVA PF.

  208. Zeggy # 203, 204, 205, 206 uli Mpombo sana!! How do people vote for Mwanawasa who is dead the reason there will be elctions. Shout up if you have nothing sensible to contribute!

  209. But why is it that us Zambians have always cherished to remain behind in every aspect? The world is dynamic and technology is developing day in day out. People like Cycle Mata are recycled materials and need to be discurded from our minds.The man has been in Government since I was born and what good would he bring this time around that he did not bring the time he was #3 in the Hierachy of the MMD Government under the leadership of the one Fredrick Chiluba? I thought there is retirement after a certain age? Retirement is meant to pave way for the young ones for better continuity? No wonder young people today in Zambia can not be in top positions because such people like Mr Cycle Mata who

  210. Cont…
    to go on retirement to pave way for further development…new technology. Our country will always be behind as long as we embrace such ‘oldies’. Why for once cant they swallow their pride and just direct the young ones where they feel they are not doing right? Mr. Cycle Mata doesnt understand the new world he is still behind, still living in the ‘Federal’. Come on wise Zambians, just for this time lets vote for our own benefit. These oldies have their own ‘agendas’. Others would just want to fulfil their long fought for power which Fredrick declined to give them and NOT to serve the Zambian people.

  212. No 210 what are you saying? I challenge you to come up with ideas. I for one am tired of people making comments about other people that are recycled too.

    Have you lived abroad all your life? Do you know that you do not have to be to have new ideas and that experience and age can be good teaching?

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