Friday, March 29, 2024

Sata evicted me from MMD, Nawakwi

Share

Forum for Democracy and Development (FDD) President Edith Nawakwi said that she left MMD because Patriotic Front, PF President MICHAEL SATA evicted her from the ruling party

Ms Nawakwi said the people of Mkushi would make a very big mistake if they voted for Patriotic Front, PF President MICHAEL SATA in the October 30 elections.

Ms. Nawakwi claimed that this was because Mr. Sata was quarrelsome and an arrogant individual who lacked respect for others.

Ms. Nawakwi said she was was not an enemy of the MMD just because she had her own party, but that she left the party because Mr. Sata evicted her.

She charged that there was no way Mr. Sata could lead the country, if he chased from office anyone who differed with him in opinion or tried to advise him.

She further said her party has endorsed Acting President Rupiah Banda’s candidature in the October 30 elections because he was a peaceful man who knew no insults.

Ms. Nawakwi further urged the people in the area not to listen to lies from the opposition aimed at tarnishing the image of Mr. Banda but to listen to the voice of the MMD and ensure that they voted for Mr Banda.

ZANIS/ENDS/CK/MK/EML/CLM

271 COMMENTS

  1. i see that madam Nawakwi you want to get revenge and you are supporting RB bcoz you want a job,you are tire of loitering the streets of Lusaka.But let me tell you that Sata is the best presidential candidate we got and you knw it.Pabwato fye!!!!!!!!

  2. I HAVE ALWAYS SAID SO IF WE WANT TO GO BACK AND BACKWARD WE CAN VOTE FOR A KAPONYA WHO DOSENT LISTEN TO REASON. WE DONT HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND QUARRELLING BUT SOLVE THE POVERTY THAT IS STILL HIGH, DISEASE, HUNGER AND IMPROVE LIVES IN GENERAL. WE CANT HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO ALL THE TIME HE OPPOSES THE ZAMBIANS. NAWAKWI I RESPECT YOU ON THIS ONE SATA IS THE WORST PERSON WE CAN EVER HAVE FOR PRESIDENCY.

  3. Nawakwi you have not explained your role in the Carrington Maize deal. You probably want RBB to cover your misdeeds like he is promising Chiluba. For your own information, Ari Ben Menashe and his accomplices are in trouble elsewhere. I think the Carrington issue should be handed over to the Canadian/US authorities so that you should all be indicted.

  4. “She charged that there was no way Mr. Sata could lead the country, if he chased from office anyone who differed with him in opinion or tried to advise him.” True about Sata. Imagine now Sata’s “PF could face difficulties to form Cabinet because it had only 16 members of parliament and 23 had rebelled and were in support of Vice-President Banda as evidenced by the reports in the newspapers”.
    Thank you Ms Nawakwi. Thank you Zambians. Thank you Central, Copperbelt, Eastern, Luapula, Lusaka, Nothern, Northwestern, Southern and Western Provinces for endorsing HH. This is real change we all can believe and trust in.

  5. GO Nawakwi go! RB is the man, he doesn’t wield pangas and machetes in chawama, he doesnt know how to force a third term down people’s throats, he has diplomacy, has no vulgar language (nor appearance). Everything Sata is nsele nsele, VIVA RB. In my opinion, a corrupt leader can be straightened but a dictator and corrupt person, all in one? No lets kill the serpent come 30 October.

  6. Though she is my neighbour back home, she is issuing contradictory statements .She accused Chiluba for her exit from MMD and today its Micheal Sata , Common Zambian Politicians your political ambitions have become too predatory and beneffactory skewed

  7. Ba Nawakwi please shut yo mouff if you have nothing positive to say about our next president Hon. Michael Chilufya Sata.

  8. Kwena, you pabwato pipi, can one of you just explain on this fora, the violence attributed to your leader, his vulagarity and above all lack of respect for constitutionalism? Please enlighten me, am waiting maybe I dont know the Sata you talk about I could be thinking of another person. Is it the same one who was Minister without Portfolio, mba?

  9. But if she left because of Mr.Sata and feels MMD should continue working and is still a good party. Why cannt she go back to MMD rejoin and work in their other than running a party that cannot even win?

  10. Zambian media please help us these fun politicians owe us some explanation about their past and the current position.They are not supposed to behave like prostitutes in search prosperity they shoild maintain some deginity.

  11. Only God knows our fate. All the contenders are questionable. Ask yoself how each one came on the scene; either by accident, frustration, sidelined or out of job.
    GOD BLESS ZAMBIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Ba Nawakwi you only have 4 days because the State Machinery will be in the bwato hands, so we shall set the wolves on you ( DEC)

  13. #2 u are right that Sata is worst person for President however if you look at how much support he has, we will all be watching hopelessly while he takes over power from MMD.MMD is useless and Money Banda has made it worse coz he can do anything just to win this week’s election. What would a person who wants to be friends with Kachilube do for our country. We all know how much money Kachilube store from our country. Money Banda has no Mission, Goals or Objectives… WATCH OUT THIS WEEK SATA IS WINNING….
    The majority of voters are uneducated and poor, these are the pipo that will vote for Sata not only that even the some of the educated and Rich also think that Sata makes sense at the

  14. LUAPULA FISH WHY DO YOU NEED THE MEDIA FOR YOU? YOU ARE NOT ON THE GROUND. WHO SAID YOU CANT MAKE PERSONEL DECISIONS. GET IT YOURSELF. OR BY THE WAY THE POST YOU WANT THEM, THEY MAY HAVE JUST DUG A WONDERFULL TRENCH FOR THEMSELVES VERY SOON 3DAYS MORE WE SHALL BE BURRING THEM.

  15. the moment
    Nawaki shoud just shut up and go to the village…… All these pipo wnat is to destroy our country further. Money Banda is no exception. HH could make a good President BUT HE IS NOT READY AT THE MOMENT maybe next election 2011.

  16. #18 you are right. MMD have themselves to blame if they lose this election. Magande would have been the appropriate choice and this would have been a landslide for them

    Shamefully they listened to people like VJ and co

  17. # 20 are you a terrorist??? How are you going to bury them?? What wrong have they done?? All they are doing preaching the good news to all the Zambian pipo.

  18. MMD is currently in a COMA PF will be signing papers soon so that they can remove the supporting Machine.On Friday state funeral will be declared and burrial will take place on 04-11-08 after SATA is pronounced as New President of Zamba hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. NO.20 Wise Choice . We need the media for the nation to be well informed, everyone is free to make personal decisions, why should we vote for a party with a lot people make inconsistent statements (lies)to justify their action for predatory money activities. RB is struggling against Sata because of making wrong personal decisions . Infact they are not more personal ,coz in democratic society politics are exogenously determined by the majority vote. I am just begging your party leaders to built up some social capital worth of trust.

  20. # 18,My brother dont think BA SATA will win. Lets not forget VJ is in the area. Leave room for disappointments. We must be scared that VJ is on the scene,he cant let his best friend RB lose. In my view this election has been rigged. I dont want to die of an heart attack when my Preferred candidate does not win

  21. PF cadres have little understanding of Zambia. They chose to be brainwashed instead of getting to grips with reality. Even now, Some Bwalya – a Bemba man – and the imgebuilders of Sata Sata’s mouthpiece The POST have produced some terrible opinino poll that Sata would win. The interesting point is that the characters that produced this opinion poll are all BEMBA PEOPLE.
    Zambias, wake up and see things in a normal perspective. How can 3 Bembas cheat you all. You Zambians are very intelligent and you can do better than being brainwashed. Together, let us build Zambia and vote for real change by endorsing HH on October 30, 2008. Thank you Zambians.

  22. #28 continued.
    Sata’s imagebuilders and mouthpiece The POST workforce (reporters) composition:
    By Lambwe Kachali
    Chibaula Silwamba
    Patson Chilemba
    Masuzyo Chakwe
    Sututu Amukena
    Patson Chilemba
    Abigail Chaponda
    Katwishi Bwalya
    Noel Sichalwe
    Sheikh Chifuwe
    Christopher Miti
    Zumani Katasefa
    Allan Mulenga
    George Zulu
    Kabanda Chulu
    Chiwoyu Sinyangwe

    Can someone tell me the number of people that are non-Bemba in the above list. Isn’t this tribalism at The POST? Can someone challenge me on my postings on, please, with data?

  23. Nawakwi is right, Sata is a person who like fighting, you can ask people whom he was at the Minor seminary at St Luois Minor Seminary, he liked fighting and getting thing from young ones. Nawakwi is not looking for job, she telling the truth, I can support her. He has grow up in village where people like quarrelling Chitulika village. Zambians it will be a great mistake to vote for Mr Sata, you will regret the future when most of the heads of zambians will be cut off, using his presidential powers.

  24. # 25 I AGREE WITH YOU ON SOCIAL CAPITAL BUT I THINK THE MEDIA SHOULD NOT GIVE THEIR PERSONAL OPINION ON THE PUBLIC THEY SHOULD REPORT AS IT IS. ONE MEDIA ORGANISATION HAS BEEN TWISTING WHAT RB SAYS AND MAKING IT LOOK LIKE SATA IS WINNING. I BELEIVE RB HAS DONE WELL NOT TO RESPOND TO UNWARANTED ATTACKS. THEY SUPPORTED MAGANDE WHO LOST IN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. THEY SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD THAT IN A DEMOCRACY THEIR IS LOOSING JUST LIKE PF THINKS ONCE THEY LOOSE SOMEONE HAS RIGID. SATA EVEN AGREED THAT HE HAD CONCENTRATED IN URBAN AREAS AND HE HAS MADE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN. THE MEDIA MUST REPORT ISSUES FACTS AND ISSUES THAT WILL BUILD SOCIETY. THE POST HAS BEEN BOUGHT BY PF WE KNOW THAT

  25. Ya,everyone i call back home is worried what will become of Zambia because the prospects of being led by a kaponya are high & already we are seeing the signs of ”ma youth-call boy era” where instance justice by cadres is the norm,in Kasama,some PF cadres intercepted a truck carrying medical equipment thinking it was carrying ballot papers,the driver refused to budge with them to open the back & headed straight to park the truck & sleep at his hotel but the PF cadres followed & started opening the truck only for Police to arrive & stop the criminal acts.Such acts by PF are uncalled for.Good luck to all candidates anyway,if the people vote Sata that’s there choice,Zambians forget easily.

  26. 32 right on, we seem headed for doom, pipo are just saying change change, is Sata bringing the right change? PF you are still not answering to advise the state, mental and physical of your so called leader…..

  27. NO.29 DONT LOSE FOCUS.I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHAT THE POST ARE DOING.LAST TIME THEY ENDORSED LEVY.ITS THEIR CHOICE.

  28. Rather than paint a gloomy picture and complain that a kaponya is taking over, I urge everyone to vote and stop the serpent. Our votes all matter….

  29. Nawakwi, you prostitute just shut you beak. Who needs your endorsment. Just continue ranting 4 days before we burry RB and all the goons around him. The loss for RB will spell doom for a lot of people. All DCs,60% of PSs, All Ministers and their deputies, All presd Advisors, 70% of HC and Amborsodors, All heads of OP,ZNS,Police,DEC,AAC and the Army and ZAF, 70% of GRZ heads of parastatals,ie Sisala ( ZESCO) Salasini ( ZNBC). Make a count you will discover they go over 500 people.What a shame it will be. The Good part is that others will get this jobs, there for there is no real job loses, but just a shift in fortunes.

  30. #26 no Heart Attach my brother Bashukulu Ba-Sata is winning this week. VJ will not make any difference let wait and see… Pipo are tired of these useless pipo who want to steal in the name of developing the nation and syaing all sort of baseless promises.Where were there all this time to bring development now????No ways they have to pack and go period!!! if you have been following the news, MMD is always saying Sata said this and that…. this is becoz he is the biggest FISH that scares them most.Despite him being in bad health and OLD he is still threat to them.

  31. NO.28 ,you are right 3 bembas cannot cheat you but you grouped together cannot take HH to state house. Indirectly you decampaighn your presidential hopeful without realising that by attacking some non tribal people who care less about tribe and focuss on national development. I hope you are not being ignorant by encouraging a tribal way voting . Personally ,Iam bemba and I was one few front Unza supporters for HH 2 years ago. Dont mislead yourself and other bembas surpporting HH, because your statements are alienating for bembas to upnd.

  32. #32, I am equally worried, as a student on Chinese govt scholarship my future here is not certain. Once the snake wins with his pro-Taiwan stance we’ll definately be deported back to Zed. GOD HELP US.

  33. The media in Zambia is crap,full of unprofessional & unethical journalists,i even wonder if freedom of the press really exists.The public media has sworn to support RB but they also cover PF’s campaign leaving out UPND.The Post is convinced Sata is winning so suddenly they have put their tails on their backsides & sworn allegiance to Sata by giving total coverage & insultinf RB in every edition,meanwhile they have forgotten completely about HH who is probably the best candidate of the 4,they choose to cover Miyanda as they know his chances of winning are almost nil,shameful culture indeed!

  34. Don’t waste time listening to Nawakwi who cannot even find a man to marry her. She specialises in grabbing other women’s husbands. She is a political failure and she is broke now.
    RB is not upright. Mwanawasa was more upright, that’s why all wrong characters/criminals left MMD. They are going back because RB is a wrong chap.

    Viva Sata
    Pa bwatoooo

  35. #40 it’s about getting out the MMD and Sata stands a good chance. Why back a losing horse like HH and you can’t win an election by just winning Southern Province. HH is non starter even MMD knows it that is why they are not even wasting time on him. It’s not the best that wins all the time. The Windows software and browser you are using are not the best they are winners. Even VHS technology was not the best but it won. Even Sata is not the best but he is a winner

  36. Nawakwi…Professional b*#$h by nature and as politician. FTJ did you well well kapena yenze yakumbuyo anso shaa! Michael Sata knows too much about you. So you better watch your stinky and ugly facial labia.

  37. Nawakwi you are crazy! Why did you wait all this time to reveal that Mr.Sata evicted you from MMD? Why did’nt you go back to MMD when Sata left? You are just a miserable woman who has no future in politics. Please just rejoin the MMD other than trying to find excuses for having left MMD. You do do mean anything being an oppostion. What kind of oppositions support other political parties? Its a shame to see some of you chaps hiding in the opposition when you actually belong to the ruling party. I’m sure you also got the brown envelope like other ticks! Shame on you Nawakwi!

  38. #38, Luapula Fish, I am not worried about HH. I do know how difficult it is for you to understand and accepted that I am only against Sata, the POST, and that Bwalya who released a terribly tribally inclined opinion poll. I will release my anyasis of it (opninon poll) shortly.
    So, do not worry about my alleged hurting of HH’s votes. I am for HH, Miyanda and RBB for Zambian President in that order PERIOD. I AM AGAINST SATA to get anyway near Plot 1. I hope this clears your PERCEIVED PROBLEM WITH ME – MAESTRO HH.
    Thank you Zambians, “One Zambia, One Nation”. Lets bring Sata, Mmembe and Bwalya to a shame on 30th October, 2008 as they are advancing TRIBALISM.

  39. Rumour has it that she doesn’t operate well without icinyamunyamu… Ama funikako anso apemako first no mutila ko magazi fanika manzi amoyo..

  40. #43, LETS DEBATE WITH DECENCY PLIZ, WE ARE ALL ZEDIANS. EVEN IF WE DIFFER IN OPINIONS LETS NOT USE UNPALATABLE LANGUAGE MY BROTHER

  41. SATA is not presidential material. He is gud if he is led but not to lead. Those of us who has followed this man know that he destroys any one with opposing views.Look at the vigilantes and bye air when he was governor. Look at the pangas and machette saga in chawama. This man misled chiluba very much through attacks on opponents. We had seen how UNIP was messed up thru black mamba and zerom option tramped up charges. The arrest of Dr Kaunda. We further saw a series of suspecious deaths during their 10 yr period with chiluba. We saw the worst deportation of opponents including the declaration of Dr Kaunda stateless before deporting. We saw the manipulation of the Zambian constitution in 1996

  42. All those that are calling Sata Kaponya and are worried that he is taking over, you are the ones that have created this mess. If you were interested in Politics and won support from the pipo of Zambia, you wouldn’t be saying this today…
    Therefore if you have no solution to a problem, just keep quite and stop complaining.
    My advise to you all is come back home and form a Political Party that will be full of transparance, save yr nation and will support you.

  43. Hahaha your reasoning is the best i have heard in years. LETS ALL VOTE FOR THE WINNER. I BELIEVE HH IS THE BEST BUT HE HAS BAD ADVISERS. HE SHOULD HAVE RALLIED BEHIND SATA AND TRY HIS BEST IN 2011. SO AS FOR ME(I AM NOT PF BY THE WAY..ACTUALLY I DONT BELONG TO THIS NOSENSE CALLED PARTY) I AM VOTING FOR A WINNER IN THIS CASE MCS………THATS THE MAN OF THE MOMENT…VIVA SATA FOR PRESIDENT. Forming cabinet is a small issues..even MPOMBO OR TETA will gladly accept appointments if offered….so UBWAAAAAAAAAAATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO……….PERIOD

  44. PAUL TEMBO, PENZA, MAJ WEZI KAUNDA, ALL DIED MYSTERIOUSLY DURING THAT ILL FATED REIGN, NOT TO MENTION THE IMPRISONMENT OF THE GREAT SON DEAN MUNG’OMBA. WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN BUT IT SEEMS ZEDIANS FORGET VERY EASILY AS LPM ONCE SAID

  45. # 45 Maestro, I am just concerned with insensitive use of the term bembas whenever you trying to bring up something and this is not not your first or second time . Furthermore ,the best way to decampaighn someone is to campaign for the other candidates. Anyway i well in your decapaigns and hopefully you will learn a great deal of stuff after the elections .
    And the bemba guys working for post cannot be blammed ,they are just working under the guoidance of Membe.Membe has been attacking almost all the leaders in the past,the problem is people have been surpportive of what he has been doing in the past and only to reject him today. No thats not being objective ..

  46. #49, hats off. Even Chiluba realised that Sata was cheating him and hence Chiluba DRIBBLED Sata by letting late Mwanawasa lead as Zambian President.

    I am now beginning to think that the “Black Mamba” was a version of Sata who has consistently referred to himself or acknowledged himself as Cobra.

    “One Zambia, One Nation.” Meanwhile thank you RBB and MMD for campaigning for HH by playing Sata’s old talkings on ZNBC. This is a very good move which I asked you to do many many days ago. Please, do more for time is fast approaching Thursday’s election.

  47. THE QUEUE KEEPS GROWING FOR SELF-CONFESSED BROWN ENVELOP RECIPIENTS. HOW MANY MORE B4 THE ELECTIONS. COME OUT B4 ITS TOO LATE. PABWATO.

  48. #53, what is wrong with the ‘sensitive’ term Bemba. Doesn’t Bemba refer to an ethnic group of Zambian people called Bemba tribe. Doesn’t Bemba reffer to a Zambia Language of the Bemba Tribe people?

    Let us be objective and not emotional. As much as we have Tonga-tribalists and not the whole Tonga Tribe People, there are Bemba-tribalists among Bemba People and in this case, fortunately or unfortunately, the 3 Bemba’s are against their goal because they are scaring the whole Nation Zambia. The earlier you, Luapula Fish, acknowledges that it is not a taboo to mention any Tribe or Language of Zambian ethnic grupings, the better for you and our great Nation. have a great day.

  49. -MIYANDA can make a good leader. no doubts.
    -HH seems not to be able to follow his manifesto coz he seems not to be ready now for the row of national decision making
    -RB DOESN’T know why he wants to be president. he seems to have no manifesto since he can’t follow MMD’s manifesto.
    -NAWAKWI is running bankrupt therefore a need for the job
    -SATA is voko and short tempered but is close to MIYANDA therefore the two can work together so that miyanda would be his best advisor or the vice. we all know miyanda can’t win.
    ——OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER.

  50. Actually SAki and Nawakwi are dating. Saki’s wife should withdraw her husband. He is not safe, Nawakwi is on the loose.

  51. #53, Luapula Fish, you wrote “And the bemba guys working for post cannot be blammed ,they are just working under the guoidance of Membe.Membe has been attacking almost all the leaders in the past,the problem is people have been surpportive of what he has been doing in the past and only to reject him today. No thats not being objective..”
    I must confess that I do not blame the workers of Mmembe at the POST, but I am simply showing that the character who is brainwashing PF cadres is himself a sad Bemba-Tribalist who is pointing at others as tribal – check how Sata’s imgebuilders and mouthpiece wrote that The Mighty UPND is tribal and RBB is tribal. Look at its workforce composition now!

  52. Nawakwi Sata chased you from MMD coz of your weak morals….return someone’s husband you have locked in your house.

  53. # 56,Maestro. its not a taboo but seem to be doing that everytime and that suspicious. Its not not taboo to mention a tribe but if it is a taboo to be mentioning 3 people using the tribe as an identity.You mentioned their names and everyone understands those bemba names I see no reason for you to mention the word bembas in addition to that.Society shapes peoples lives through conceiving the societal norms and values and certain behaviour may be sanctioned and rejected not because its a taboo but a misfit in society.

  54. Mr Sata is Rubbish, he has failed to rule and control his own PF Member of Parliament, so with that kind of attitude, how do you expect such a person to rule the nation, i don’t think sata is right man for president.

  55. Blimey! This is a president of a party who has openly said she is going to support MMD.

    It works in Africa.

    When Sata kicked you out, where was the party president? Where was the committee?

    Looking for a job `init? Ho Ho Ho. Father Christmas is only two days from Durban people.

    Never thought the cruise was so sweet!
    Ho Ho Ho!

  56. Maestro give us a break? Check your list carefully and you will find out that there are only three Bembas on that list. Sinyangwe, Kachali, Silwamba etc cannot be Bemba. Update your demographic knowledge please! Don’t tell me solis, ilas etc are Tongas. Besides, newspapers in the US have endorsed Obama and the Republicans have not issued any scathing attack on them because its normal. But why are you crucifying The Post when they have not even endorsed any candidate in this race? In fact, you need to appreciate the your man Kachali because he has been with HH in the bush throughtout the campaign. Shame!

  57. MAESTRO WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN ZED OR ABROAD, FOR CURIOSITY’S SAKE.. U’RE VERY FAMOUS ON THIS BLOGG, I SEEM TO LIKE YOUR CONSISTENCY

  58. You are even listing names as if The Post only comprises of the editorial department. There is accounts, IT, circulations, Canteen, logistics, ISP etc. I know this because I once worked there. At first, I thought you were an intellectual but I have discovered that you are only SCHOOLED and not EDUCATED!…because your behaviour on this blog is far from that of most intellectuals I have met. You must have had a rough upbringing because your attitude towards other ethic groupings is pathetic or probably you are a PRODUCT of a run-away Bemba father. I really sympathize with you my brother coz these things happen. But not all Bembas are like that. Just like I am Tonga yet not tribal like you.

  59. #61, Luapula Fish, thanks for acknowledging that I am on the right track. The FACTS and NOT-SPECULATIONS on the ground are that I am a real Tonga person (my Father was and Mother is Tonga from Choma and Monze respectively); Sata, mmembe and bwalya are Bemba although their fathers and mothers may not be Bembas only as the case is for mmembe. This is truth – The Holly Bible records “you shall know the truth and the truthshall set you free.”

  60. #65, in case you do not know the c l a s s i f i c a t i o n s of Zambian tribes, can you please got to the CSO (Central Statistical Office) of Zambia wbesite and see that %anges of Zambian ethnic groups in the whole country. I will post a version of it shortly for you.

  61. Nawakwi you prostitute now you are claiming Sata evicted you. Zambian politicians are full of lies. Archives show that you left MMD after claiming Chiluba was corrupt. If you can’t trust your own blubber mouth with what you say, then how do you expect your followers in the FDD to adhere?

  62. #68, ZED STUDENT IN CHINA, you wrote “MAESTRO WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN ZED OR ABROAD, FOR CURIOSITY’S SAKE.. U’RE VERY FAMOUS ON THIS BLOGG, I SEEM TO LIKE YOUR CONSISTENCY”.

    Firstly, I would like to write greeting you you fellow Zambian Citizen. Secondly, a big thank you to you for acknowledging my consistency on this LT blog.

    Thirdly, I live in Southern Province in Zambia. However, I studied amd worked in Lusaka, studied in South Africa and now the EU. You can catch up with me on:
    [email protected] – my names are Mugungulu Hamwaambwa Mwaanga.
    Be blessed and take careful care.

  63. It’s the people’s choice go Sata go,all of you against sata are like the republicans in America trying desperate measure to instill confidence in yourself.You can call him all sort of names but the fact is Sata for PRESIDENT Viva Sata.,

  64. Mestro, You are not on right track , You have been inging about bembas almost on every posting. Thats not cool I believe and its rare to hear Zambians identifying individuals by tribes,its pretty divisive.I just wish you will come to understand that people are just people irrespective of the tribes races and so on.I can tell that you will be suffer from psychological attacks after the elections.For anyone (rb,sata ,hh) can take it is ok for me because they are all Zambians anyway.

  65. Gentlemen while the tribal tag is real in 2days politics, it must be checked by all. It is not politics of civilisation. I have noticed that in HH camp in this election No tribal words have been used. In RB’s camp a lot of such tribal words have been noticed,. We have also seen the predominance of usage of bemba as official language in PF, including the symbol pa bwato. The voting will follow this partern. This can not be denied. However what is of concern is the hatred being exchanged by the bemba’s againstus from the East and those from the South should not be ignored. The usage of media to advance hatred against one person should not be accepted.

  66. —OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER. FOR NOW YES……IN 2011 HH IS THE MAN BUT FOR NOW —OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER.—OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER.—OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER.—OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER.—OF THE 4 WRONG CANDIDATES, SATA SEEMS TO BE BETTER. I AGREE 100%

  67. #75, let us meet again after the elections and discuss the results. I can not be cheated or brainwashed by the POST. I have direct family members in most Provinces except Luapula and Northern Province. Both Luapula and Northern Province votes for Sata will not equal the number that HH will most likely get from only Southern Province. I will not mention about other provinces as of now for the one who campaigned properly will be known on the 2nd November. Just prepare yourselves, PF cadres, to accept the results when they will be released. I hope no life will be lost among any Zambians after Sata tries to influence undereducated, Myopic characters to fight for nothing, but his failed campaign.

  68. No.79 I agree with you ,but use of bemba or Nyanja is not at anyway tribal because majority Zambians can understand these languages.Zulu is widely used in South Africa and there is nothing wrong with PF or MMD to use bemba or Nyanja in campaigns.Not only PF has been using bemba but all the political parties in the country coz it can be used as a medium of communication to reach out to alot of people.

  69. #79. Every nation has an official language or predomint language. One will huff and puff but it is only reality. Lucky those countries which use just one language and no wonder they claim to be the world leaders (You know who). There are issues about which is more predominat.

  70. Maestro I understand you trying to be part of the process in norminal terms,but in real terms you not part of the process because it is just common Knowledge that the race is between RB and Sata.Reality and fantasy 2 different things.

  71. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe…Granted! HH will get his usual Tonga vote but he will not perform any better elsewhere. If he does he will be sharing with RB and that’s in Western , North-western and a bit of Central. The rest Sata will get huge margins. Sata to winning baasa!!!

  72. #85, I respect your opinion. However, I truly think it is coming from a brainwashed background which I do not subscribe to.

    I was in Zambian when we are mourning late Zambian President Mwanawasa. I left Zambia under 2 months ago. I know how much HH has campaigned starting 2006 November. I understand that MMD is trying to use propaganda to show Zambian voters that RBB has the most endorsements from the whole Nation including Chiefs. I also understand the desperation by Sata’s current mouthpiece The POSt to show us porpagada that Sata will win – for the POST has to sell and also propagate its Bemba as a National Language debate. This is all normal because not all humans are principled.

  73. #86, for the last time on your “Granted! HH will get his usual Tonga vote but he will not perform any better elsewhere” let us meet on LT after the elections. This is the only way we will get to grips with reality.
    I understand the desperation by both MMD and PF as given in #88 above. This is an attempt to sway undecided voters, but the tribalists and rural voters have already must up their minds and no matter what a media branch reports, it wont change their thoughts.
    So, since very few people in rural areas read news and actually get to understand what is written or read out to them, this battle is about who really meet the voters in person – and HH is the epitome of meeting voters.

  74. PEOPLE WILL NEVER ADMIT TRIBALISM,THIS YEAR THEY ARE SAYING HH FOR 2011,IN 2011 WHEN MMD ADOPTS A MULENGA THEY THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER EXCUSE FOR NOT SUPPORTING HH.
    THE TRUTH IS IF YOU VOTE FOR A WRONG CANDIDATE THIS YEAR YOU WILL BE STUCK WITH THAT BAD CHOICE FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.UNLESS YOU ARE THINKING THAT THE NEXT PRESIDENT MAY ALSO DIE FROM A HEART ATTACK.

  75. Iwe ka economic refugee #28, there are only 5 Bembas on your list.shameless Tribalist pabwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  76. #88 Why do you seem to have a problem with people from Luapula and Northen provinces?

    You have all the while claimed to be learned and yet you still think it is alright for Tongas to vote for the most learned man in the universe but wrong for northerners and those from Luapula to vote for Sata. They are brain washed!

    Father Christmas has been following your posts and has them in record, at first, I thought I was dealing with an intellectual. But, I have to say sorry you are just a very desperate man who has managed to create a very bad name for Tongas (as if they didn`t have a bad name).

  77. Maestro you dont understand,If you think I am coming from a brain washed background they I think you are coming from from uninformed primitive who cannot picture the way things are on the groung.But , just as I stated you may be enjoying trying to be part of the process.

  78. #92, Maestro is somewhere near Karzakhstan, very unhappy dude. If he was in UK, USA etc.., wouldn’t be ranting the way his. He contemplating going back to ZEDI a he is not happy wherer ever he is. Cheap mouthful slut he is!

  79. Maestro mwaiche oct 30 Pabwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PF has broken the tribal barrier. Your earlier post only shows 5 bembas WECHIPUBAWE. Mambwes and Namwangas are not Bemba even tho they come from the North. Kanshi wabashani WENDOSHIWE

  80. I can not imagine why in this complex world a news paper of Post Standing can allow negative propaganda against one person. And try to build a man who has been croocked all his political career. The man who has been known to peddle violence. The man who is list educated among all candidates. How can we be ruled by a person who is upto Standard 4. What are we role modelling in the politics. Gentlemen we are the interviewing Panel. We have 4 candidates from whom we will guarantee the future of our children,education,employment,health etc. These must be with men whomcan see beyond 15 years. Lets be very careful in the way we vote. TheYOUNG stand up “namukula nomba”.Its out time. It has come

  81. #96 lol!

    He is not even like me who is coming to vote. I think this Maestro nimpombo cacine! Ho Ho HO. The man is an idi*t. So desperate. These are the kind who committ suicide. It is sad we can not help him. The man only has to help himself. I think he needs tablets.
    Ho Ho Ho.

  82. i agree with u #93 procrastination is a thief of time..i agree with nawakwi on this score though i dont support he choice of RB but the character she has brought out of the COBRA is worth looking at.He made it a point all that were potential threats were hounded out of MMD.Wait and see on the so called REBEL MPs,no dialogue,no forgiveness.His will shall prevail after all he is the KING..he appears to be in the lead though…
    HH IS A BETTER OPTION BUT CAN ANYBODY HEED THE SIGNS???? 30TH OCTOBER WILL TELL.CASE RESTED

  83. These old people have been using us all these years. They said imiti ikula e mpanga. Now our time has come. They say no u will come in 2011. This can not be accepted. These are the people who have caused decline in all high education due to under funding,caused a lot of youth to fall off from school, the quality of education in GRZ school to decline. These are the people who have not increases employment levels from where UNIP left. Despite having 60% of water in southern Africa we are the poorest, in the midst of rich mineral resources. We ne a radicle change to guarantee free education for the poor and accelerated investments to guarantee jobs for skilled and un skilled man power.

  84. Sunshine, My problem with the Post does not start with RB , they have scandalised almost all the people on political arena.The Zambians have themselves to blame for giving the post the support and credibity they deserve and this led to some sort of embeded autonomy developed in Mmembe.We Zambians are expected to reject any kind of reports that we feel are damaging to our society.

  85. #102 You are entitled to your own opinion ad we respect that. But, please do not try to convince the world to vote for your man.

    On the cruise batata. Wish you were here. If you know what Father Christmas is saying.

  86. #95, greeting and thank you for your posting where you wrote “You have all the while claimed to be learned and yet you still think it is alright for Tongas to vote for the most learned man in the universe but wrong for northerners and those from Luapula to vote for Sata. They are brain washed!”

    Please, do not put words in my mouth. Tonga or Luapulans together with their Northeners have the right ti chose a candidate of their choice. I have no right to deny them that right – in fact it could be a futile exercise. So, please do not show ignorance for many people are following all the arguments I portrayed carefully.

  87. #105, Luapula Fish, you are now beginning to write sense. Keep it up.

    “One Zambia, One nation.” Together we can bring sanity n Zambian Plotics and stand as a united Nation ready to fight our Challenges.

    Thank you all Zambians. Thank you for endorsing HH for Zambian Presidency. Take careful care to do the needful on the 30th of October, 2008.

  88. #104. Stop looking at America. Of the three candidates, the only one who can deliver is Sata. The youth rubbish is only preached in Africa. If you look at it, it has not worked.
    Ho Ho Ho. Father Christmas is happy you used “imiti ikula”.

    On the cruise my brother. Oh! Sorry sister.

  89. #93. zambian. Thank you for being objective and realistic. Lets develop Zambia in the right direction.
    Thank you MMD for running those old talks and writings of Sata on ZNBC radio and TV.

    Together, we will see HH to the shore on 30th October, 2008. Thank you all, take care and be blessed.

  90. the choice of choosing a leader will cost mmd’s victory.acording to the steadman poll,alot of pipo feel very close to mmd and yet they wud not vote for rb as president due to various reasons.rb is not a trusted man hes got no track record of anything hes done,ask the current generations,they will tell u that they knw little or nothing about nyama soya,viva prof chirwa 2011

  91. # 108 i dnt like your tribalist comments on every LT posting,if you have nothing to post about please just stay away. If you guys want learn more about tribalism ( tonga way) go to Zambia Sugar Buying Office and find out.What is MH talking about????

  92. #97, Luapula Fish, you wrote “Maestro you dont understand,If you think I am coming from a brain washed background they I think you are coming from from uninformed primitive who cannot picture the way things are on the groung.” Are you writing about ground and not groung?

    What has happened to your SATAMANIA in The Southern and Western Provinces?

    I am trying to help you PF cadres find strategies of winning the election and you are exposing thickness in understanding simple truths. The truth hurts and emotional characters may fail to hole themselves.

  93. #107. Because of your desperation to see your fellow Tonga win, you have become so useless you forget what you have said.

    Why do you keep contradicting yourself? Look at post #88 again. Do you have a life?

    May be you should have joined Father Christmas on the cruise. You have no insight and that is a very dangerous thing. I will give you an example, the last thing an alchoholic would wan to say is to deny they are alchoholic. Please go and seek help. I am worried for you.

  94. Maestro could be Mulongoti…. Iwe chi Mulongoti tawaka voteko. Some of us are UPND but 30th Oct. Ni pa bwatoooooooo

  95. #s98, Circumsised and 99, greeting to you, thank you and take care. I am depending on you to help our Children have a secured future.

    I am always open to criticism, especially positive critism but I am yet to find any because I believe in Proofs.

  96. #117, ….. hhehhehhehhe. Thank you, for no advise is a complete waste, but only credible is taken seriously. So far, yours falls short of credible for it lacks (sound) backup.

  97. Maestro, I am not emotionnal because Iam a social scientist I understand your irritating character .But you are pushing what cannot be moved and hoping shattered dreams.

  98. You chaps are not even in ZED. Secured future….my foot!!!!!!!! maestro get a life chap. If you have problems, Bweleni fye ko Zed. It looks like your are tired of working in those homes for the aged.

  99. Maestro kalale please twapapata. We know you are off the rails like the British say. But it is sad for you to want to drag other people with you. You sad little big time charlie!

  100. #122, Luapula Fish, since (claim) you are a social scientist, please help me understand why I have never insulted on this LT blog while PF supporters are busy insulting me right know?

    Who then is desperate? Is it Maestro (Teacher) or PF cadres?

  101. #125, Luapula Fish, look at what you are doing to yourself. You are now calling me (Maestro Hhehhehhehhe) names. Please, grow up?

  102. am sorry guys i have been such a corward,little did i realise that the watch stoped working a long time ago.from today i hve changed from being tonga to bemba and am on my way to get into the boat.pabwato chabe

  103. plz pipo we all knw that sata can not be a good leader nd he has never even been good to pipo he may just want to be good now coz he wants to go to plot 1,but for those support him i just want to knw wat makes them to support him????

  104. LETS STOP BEING EMOTIONAL GUYS, ONE POSITIVE THING ABOUT MAESTRO IS THAT HE DOESNT ANSWER BACK HIS CRITICS WITH INSULTS UNLIKE MOST OF YOU ARE SUBJECTING HIM TO. LETS BE SOBER AND DEBATE HUMANELY. NO BAD LANGUAGE PLIZ WE ARE ALL ZAMBIANS WHETHER TONGA, BEMBA, LENJE, BISA, KAONDE, NSENGA ETC

  105. #126 The reason is you are so irritating. So tribalistic one wonders whether you are even Zambian. It is people like you who caused the worst genocide the world has ever seen and will probably see, ever.

    You are so arrogant. So rude.

    Ho Ho Ho. What a wum you are! You are not Zambian are you?

  106. Maestro ,I’m not calling you names, Irrating character is not neccessarily a bad character but it appears to one on this blog.It may be in line with majority performers in society but it qualifies to be called that on this site

  107. hahahhhahhahhahaahaha Chinese chaps are back. Student in china?!!????! please dont come back with those plastic degrees (like RB’s economic history)

  108. #128, you wrote “am sorry guys i have been such a corward,little did i realise that the watch stoped working a long time ago.from today i hve changed from being tonga to bemba and am on my way to get into the boat.pabwato chabe”

    I humbly ask you to please behave. I have warned that I will soon start using a name “Anti Bemba-tribalists” if your plagiarism behaviour on my good name, Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, you photocopiers will not end.

  109. # BA MOZE MULICE.. WE ARE GETTING THE BEST EDUCATION HERE AND THANKS TO THE CHINESE GOVT FOR THE SUPPORT. PLIZ LETS BE PEACEFUL BACK HOME BA MOZE. WE ARE ALL ZEDIANS EVEN IF WE DIFFER IN OPINION MWAISHIBA BALAMBA

  110. we insult each other on this blogg,yet these same leadrers we supporting wont be there for us.why cant u for a change listen to HH. and give the young man chance to rule this country.Satana is sick u pipo,nyama soya has a duty to tek care of his little children who need grany love

  111. #131, ZED STUDENT IN CHINA, you wrote “LETS STOP BEING EMOTIONAL GUYS, ONE POSITIVE THING ABOUT MAESTRO IS THAT HE DOESNT ANSWER BACK HIS CRITICS WITH INSULTS UNLIKE MOST OF YOU ARE SUBJECTING HIM TO. LETS BE SOBER AND DEBATE HUMANELY. NO BAD LANGUAGE PLIZ WE ARE ALL ZAMBIANS WHETHER TONGA, BEMBA, LENJE, BISA, KAONDE, NSENGA ETC”.

    Thank you and please continue the good work. I am humbled that there are Zambians out there who know that I stand for the TRUTH which hurts the tribalists, but I know that they think about these things when they get sober.

    Thank you all Zambians, together we can re-do the tribalism mess that Sata, his imagebuilders and Bemba-Tribalists have done to us.

  112. # 140 what chance let him start by being a ward chairman then we can give him a chance.Not climbing a tree from the leaves. VIVA SATA

  113. we are all sick and can die anytime ka maestro, Even HH can die anytime. dont use that as a measure for a good choice. HH is the best option no doubt, but this time we need SATA full stop.

  114. #140, again, please do not force me to start using the blog name “Anti Bemba-Tribalists”.

    I never wrote “we insult each other on this blogg,yet these same leadrers we supporting wont be there for us.why cant u for a change listen to HH. and give the young man chance to rule this country.Satana is sick u pipo,nyama soya has a duty to tek care of his little children who need grany love”…

    for I have never insulted anyone on LT or elsewhere ever since I got to grips with the good Lord God’s truths.

  115. Maestrol, Being Anti Bemba will not change anything for you, you can even become an extreamist like a sucuide bomber but you will still be hoping for an accident to happen to change the Zambian political ground.

  116. #144, Father Christmas, can you please not that thisd is why I write about Bemba-Tribalists and not normal BEMBA PEOPLE. Since about thursday last week, PF cadres who envy my good blogging have been trying to misrepresent my name but they will be in more trouble of being exposed. Wait and see.

  117. #147, Luapula Fish, but see how your fellow PF cadres are behaving now. Do you expect me to post two concurrent long messages in one minute as indicated in #s
    127. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe
    Oct 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm 0 0

    128. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe
    Oct 26th, 2008 at 2:55 pm Vote: 0 0

    just after asking you about my not insulting anyone on #126 “please help me understand why I have never insulted on this LT blog while PF supporters are busy insulting me right know?”

  118. My advice,If I were you Maestro, I would take a minute (just a single minute) and reflect on why people on this blog are so irritated with/by you, some have stopped blogging on this space b’coz of you. take a breath bro.. mina amate, tekanya, uzaphula chusi!…

  119. Zambians to vote is to employ. So if u are employing u can not get someone who is past retirement, who is grade 4 of education, who is not fit and has a record of past serious cardiac disorder, and whose generation has left the world orderr politics. Thats why he can not speak on sustain development of the country. He has been there before as number three in Govt(Min without Portiflio). Pesnioners went without being paid, the country so the worst economic decline ever. the inflation rate went up, exchange rate moved from K6.40 to K5200 to 1 USDollar. out of the 300+ companies which where viable, only less than 60 remained operational. At 70 he can only do what he experienced. Can not change

  120. #147, Just look at #148!

    I as Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, never leave space like “# 146”. I do not use the word “blogg name” or “u” for you.

    My English is well established and does not lack in coherency of ideas. But PF cadres are now trying to imitate me but using insults to dupe Zambians that have taken to the way of the d e v i l.

    Very sad indeed. How can Zambia develop with characters that are not original in developing ideas? Certainly, PF has to do a lot not just sending Sata for free education which president HH will bring once at Plot 1.

  121. I am off to the pub on the cruise to watch footie.

    Maestro your hatred for bemba speaking people makes wonder why LT has let you get away with it all this time. We do not need another Rwanda for God`s sake. It is simple people like you who made this world see the worst genocide man has ever seen.

    We know you do not have a life where ever you are, but please just do what you went there for and things will be alright. Remember, being Tonga does not mean you have to have Tonga president for you to be successful.

    Do you ever sleep?

  122. You know for sure that they are cadres but strong supporters of PF and I have also noted that they have not been attacking your Party but jst you.They feel you you have attacked their ‘super eagles’ and they reacting to that. just as you threatened to continue throwing anti bemba postings they dont stop insulting you because you thought the ‘self’ is being invedede.

  123. #152, Circumcised, thanks for your advice but why must I deny myself the right to blog?

    Even the d e v i l will try to impersonate our Lord and personal Saviour Jesus Christ according to the Holy Scriptures (Bible). This is exactly what we are taking note from some uncouth PF cadres.

    What i like most is that they (PF cadres) are decampaigning themselves.

    Thank you all normal Zambians, lets create a place also for non-original Zambians. We have a duty to bring them up todate with originality in doing things too.

  124. #157, Father Christmas, you alleged that “Maestro your hatred for bemba speaking people makes wonder why LT has let you get away with it all this time.” I want to infrom you that LT knows that I do not insult, but write the truth.

    I have ever said that I am not against any normal Bemba person. I am against all tribalists of all forms. This is why I acknowledge that their are Tonga-tribalists as well as Bemba-Tribalaists and indeed Tribalists from any other Zambian tribe. This is why i always clarify that the Bemba-tribalists I am against are Sata, and Sara’s imagebuilders and mouthpiece The POST.
    I am fully for: “1 Zambia, 1 nation” which is evidenced in all my postings.Thank you Zeds

  125. Maestro, Who are the normal bembas and abnormal bembas and also define for the normal Tongas and abnormal Tongas.Is the defination by you or society and which society anyway

  126. Money Banda has no Mission, Goals or Objectives… WATCH OUT THIS WEEK SATA IS WINNING….
    The majority of voters are uneducated and poor, these are the pipo that will vote for Sata not only that even the some of us the educated and Rich also think that Sata makes sense at the moment. Guys we just have to vote for sata this time around. Lest all jump in forget abou Nawakwi she told us that Chiluba chased her today she has changed. What a woman!

  127. #164, Luapula Fish, you asked “Who are the normal bembas and abnormal bembas and also define for the normal Tongas and abnormal Tongas.”
    My response:
    1. normal bembas are those that do not insult and look at things objectively.
    2. abnormal bembas are those that call any other Zambian tribe person as tribal without proof.

  128. #167 continued.
    #164, Luapula Fish, you asked “Who are the normal bembas and abnormal bembas and also define for the normal Tongas and abnormal Tongas.”
    My response:
    ….
    3. normal Tongas are those like me giving you proof and putting all forms of tribalists to task – to a c c o u n t for their a s s e r t i o n s.
    4. abnormal Tongas are Tonga-Tribalists.
    This analysis e n c o m p a s s e s any other Zambian tribe/r a c e too.

  129. What exactly is tribalism in the Zambian context.The reason im asking is because we seem to misunderstand what it really means.I see tribalism as discriminating against other tribes by excluding them from certain activities.i dont think UPND or PF have deliberately excluded other tribes from their parties its the other tribes who have stayed away.Who should be blamed in this case.The fact is simply this:Tongas and Bembas out number the other tribes.

  130. #171 continued:
    3. The organization, culture, or beliels of a tribe.
    moodle.bathpublicschools.com /moodle / mod/ glossary / view .p hp

    4. the state of living together in tribes
    the beliefs of a tribal society
    wordnet.princeton.edu/ perl / web w n

  131. #160, Maestro, its just a sense of respect for other bloggers which you seem to luck. F***k your wife if you have one and release all those emotions. Else you will be busy banging your head against the wall come election results time. you seem to be so immersed into this like there is nothing else that matters to you on this earth, C’MON GET A LIFE!

  132. #172 continued:
    5. The word “tribalism” can refer to two related but distinct concepts.
    en.wikipedia.org / wiki / Tribalism

    6. The condition of being tribal; A feeling of identity and loyalty to one’s tribe
    en.wiktionary.org / wiki / tribalism

    To get the above definitions type:
    define: tribalism

    in goodle search engine. In the context of Zambians, it is myopically supporting your tribesm(a/e)n even when it is clear that they do not offer anything meaningful in a cause.

  133. #173, Circumcised, I ain’t got a wife and I am looking of a Bemba nkeche to disprove characters who think that I hate normal and abnormal Bemba people. I you have taken time to carefully read my writings I only show wrogs or evil that tribalists do, but I do not insult or hate any person in this life.

    Hating people is simply a waste of time for the good Lord God is coming soon and very soon to reward each one according to his work on earth (see Revelations 22 in the Holy Scriptures (Bible)).

    Thank you #173> Thank you to you all Zambians and take careful care. i am for your children and your future. Together we can re-build what Sata has destroyed in our lives. Vote HH for real CHANGE.

  134. So should we all hate Sata for evicting Nawakwi from MMD. Ms Nawakwi those ae your problems and have got nothing to do with the elections presently.
    It is very clear that you are not even supporting RB out of principle but just out of expedience to get back at Sata for evicting you from MMD. How shameful.
    In 2006, you did the same when you joined UDA out of expeience immediately UDA lost, you went into obivion and have not offered any meaningful opposition.
    Today you are back and expect progressive Zambians to take you seriously. Continue nursing your sick son and look after Hambulo well. He may be eyeing a richer and more successful woman than yourself. Stop wasting our time!!!!!!!!!!

  135. Nawakwi now I have comfirmed that you simply follow the direction of the wind. You looking for a job?? You sound like one looking for a job madam pliz concentrate on running your own race.

  136. #177, Nawakwi did nothing in the UDA and this is why UDA broke apart.
    HH has done well to go it alone because he has promised to make cabinet with 15 MPs. This is a model similar to what Japan uses I think.

    Ngoyu gentelemani, HH [here is a gentleman, HH]
    Ngoyu gentelemani, HH [here is a gentleman, HH]
    Ngoyu gentelemani wacinicin, HH [here is a gentleman who is real, HH]
    – original Tonga song which Shatel re-did to produce a hit song.

    Thank you Zambians, together yes we can.

  137. PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!

  138. Zambians, pleeeeeeease I beg you, don’t vote for the snake, you will live to regret it. Sata is now an old man. Don’t let your bright futures be ruined by a man who is in the evenings of his life. He has little to lose if this country gets ruined.

  139. “If you look at the parties offering themselves, you find that they are offering us leadership which was part and parcel of the mis-governance, the misrule that the people of Zambia want to change from.We feel as UPND we have a candidate who has never been a part and parcel of the misrule or mis-governance of this nation,” he said. “Our candidate has never been part of a party that has brought us in this mess that we have, we are saying even though we are not part of the mess, we want to be part of the solution. Our party was not formed out of frustration of being denied presidency in MMD.”
    Source: maravi . blo g spot . com / 2008/ 10 / mmd – doesnt -deserve – another -c hance – to . ht ml

  140. NAWAKWI HAS NO INFLUENCE IN ZAMBIAN POLITICS SO SHE IS JUST WASTING HER BREATH: SHE SHOULD BE WORKING ON RESUSCITATING HER FINISHED PARTY. SATA LEFT MMD IN 2001: WHY HASN’T SHE RETURNED TO THAT PARTY ALL THIS TIME? USELESS WOMAN. HER CRITICISM OF HH IS SO SICKENING. SHE CLAIMS HE IS TOO INEXPERIENCED TO BE PRESIDENT WHEN JUST TWO YEARS AGO HE WAS THE CANDIDATE FOR UDA AND SHE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THIS. PLEASE PEOPLE DON’T LISTEN TO THIS VAGABOND OF A WOMAN AND VOTE FOR SATA ON 30 OCTOBER.

  141. “Tribalism does not exist in UPND. HH is being punished for remarks that were issues by Syacheye Madyenkuku and Ng’ande Mwananjiti and both have since left the party…It seems some people just have a problem with Tongas leading parties because when you look at some of these other parties, you will discover that they are predominantly from one province but no one is calling them tribal,” he said.
    “The MMD government has done well in terms of reducing corruption, reviving the mining industry, improving the health sector which has resulted in a reduced number of patients being flown out of the country and it has clearly demonstrated that it is able to run affairs of the country up to 2011…”

  142. Nawwakwi calls Sata un educated- she forgets that people she is addressing have much lower education than Sata. Task force follow up on Carrington

  143. “I believe the MMD has best policies and I would like to appeal to the voters to allow government to continue with its good policies,” he said.And Sikazwe was taken to task by the audience to explain why ballot papers were being found in the wrong places, thereby creating anxiety and suspicion in the people.”I am not defending ECZ, I just hope that they will be able to account for themselves being an organisation which is headed by a very able Supreme Court judge. I feel ECZ needs to take its security officers to task because all this we hear about the ballot papers is very unusual.You as the people have a right to ask them to be accountable because an election is a very sensitive issue…”

  144. The source of my positings in #s185 and 187 is Source: maravi . blo g spot . com / 2008/ 10 / mmd – doesnt -deserve – another -c hance – to . ht ml

    Vote for HH for a real ray of Change and hope that all Zambian of all races and tribes can believe and trust in. Thank you Central, Copperbelt, Eastern, Luapula, Lusaka, Northern, Northwestern, The Southern and Western Provinces. Together we can re-build what Sata and the MMD 1 (Chiluba Administration) has destroyed between 1991 to 2001 which saw Sata campaign for Chiluba’s 3rd Term of Office by try to change the Republican Constitution 2 Term Zambian Presidency provision.

  145. #29… maestro my friend, am worried about how you look at politics. you really make it nasty. am begining to hate your analysis. you are to TRIBAL. am no tonga but i like yo HH. if you became top leader pipo can cry. by the way what tribe is Mmembe? am pretty sure he is not Bemba. it sounds tongash. most of these names are not bemba, just 4 0r 5 are bemba. ask yo bro Mmembe why employs bembas only. learn to look at issues. i like most of yo analysis when you are not tribal. please my bro i beg you, bembas are not tribalists, it pains me to hear that.

  146. you people to tell you the truth these politians are job seekers, Nawaki, Sikota, they are not stable. Sikota why did he not support levy but we find him supporting RB who is corrupt. People lets be serious look at the people who are surrounding RB , Chiluba, VJ , Nawaki , nevers etc these are the people levy shunned and RB says he wants to continue with levy’s legacy honestly people what legacy when he has embraced thives. Lets look for leaders who are stable, not corrupt , if we allow corrupt leaders to rule we will see ourselves backwards.

    Vote for Sata or HH

  147. #189, greetings to you and thank you for your unwarranted outbusrts. They will go a long way.You wrote “by the way what tribe is Mmembe? am pretty sure he is not Bemba. it sounds tongash.” and i respond to you:

    Mmembe is both Bemba and Lozi. His father is/was Bemba while his mother is/was Lozi. Please, Kamunu Utata, check you facts before coming to me to vent your unnecessary anger. Carry out simple research, in fact google is not far from you. I a s s u r e you that google search is good enough. Use it and you will live a better and not bitter life.

    May you have a good day though.

  148. #189, I am trying to help both you and me to appreciate the truth on the ground.
    You wrote “learn to look at issues. i like most of yo analysis when you are not tribal. please my bro i beg you, bembas are not tribalists, it pains me to hear that” and I inform you that I am never tribal, but objective always.

    Definitions of objective on the Web:
    -learn to look at issues. i like most of yo analysis when you are not tribal.
    Source: http://www.qualityplanning.org.nz / definitions / index . p hp

  149. #175, Maestro, that explains everything. I just scroll by your contributions on this blogg, as most of it is repititions,boring, annoying, irritating. No Bemba characterintheir right minds would be amused to get on with you as nkeche. You are such a mouthful…learn to listen at times. I still beg you to get a life. Do you want lessons on how to get a life?…
    By the way stop your blasphemy portrayed on this blog by you.. you will burn on earth…

  150. More definitions of “objective” on google can be found by typing:

    define: objective

    In the google search engine. I am Maestro, a teacher, Hhehhehhehhe, always in a jolly laughing/smilling mood.

    All the best to you all and help me to clean this triablism meesy that Sata has brought to Zambians. Sata and the Chiluba MMD vehemently alleged that late UPND’s Mazoka was tribal because he was Tonga. Ever since that time, the UPND and all Tonga people have been called TRIBAL people and that seems to have made most of you, especailly Bemba-Tribalists, very happy. That is being sick in the head. The Bible reocrds that if you use a SWORD for something, it will be used on you too later.

  151. PF cadres,please answer, what is yor manifesto? I listened to your party leaders the other day on znbc, MMD had Kunda and UPND Mwiimbu and your PF Mumbi and vice bale babaika fye ati PF Manifesto not adopted by party, so how do you plan to rule us? Someone PF please answer.

  152. #193, I am hear to respond to all sorts of accusations – and probably that is why you have seen most stuff over and over mainly because most of my PF friends have a hard time to comprehend simple issues. Nonetheless, I welcome all positive contribution from all individuals and you are free to advise me. Thank you for your offer and i will be wiating.

    However, I always sift through all advice I get to utilise only the most credible and useful. Your contribution to my wellbeing will certainly be time well spent. Take care and be good. “Try hard no to do any evil” – unknown.

  153. #196, ready for the lessons on how to get a life? firstly you have to define who you are, you have to believe in existence of others and their feelings most of all you got to listen…..You are such a nuisance on this blog, such a pest! nsabwe..

  154. Maestro kalale and please leave Mazoka out of this. Who ever poisoned him will never be forgiven and is cursed for ever

  155. You chaps, grow up and learn to respect,appreciate and accommodate people who are not like you. Tribal talk does not have room in this modern society otherwise most of us wouldn’t be enjoying life in other countries as much as we are doing! One Zambia, One Nation and thats way it should!

  156. Ladies and gentlemen…its troublesome that we must be reading Maestro this or that…why should this blog be about Maestro? The Bembas say “Mwikala patalala mwine apatalalika” (‘He that stays in peace has worked for it’ – sort of-ish). The monotony of these attacks I fear will one day translate into hateful physical vengeance one day. Mark my words or go to Rwanda for a brief History in the power of hatred.

    Tell me; how did you guys spend your independence day?

  157. #205, thank you and have a jolly day. Take careful care always for the reality and truth of the matter on the ground will soon dawn on the ears and eyes of the PF cadres come november 2, 2008.

    Lovely stuff and thank you Zambians. Join the winning team of HH before it is too late. We want to celebrate the victory together. Neverless, you may join us in the 2011 election if we will all be alive, but this time is better for you can still join us now. Reflect on these things and take care.

  158. Guys try to understand Maestro’s position. I bet you too would feel as he does when others attack your own. Certainly most of you living abroad have had to experience the effect of racially motivated hate words spurted out about another black man who may not even be your brother, but the cry for justice inside you just wants to skin the perpetrator of such injustice. Maestro has a point he is trying to put across, but you are busy not listening. Lets differ in all our opinions with maturity fellow Zambians.

  159. Aight..we hear u all..but don’t 4get 2 join the boat & on 30th ni pa bwato!!! Let’s c how that goes..it’s jus 3 years so don’t freak out..there can only b 1 president @ a tym..much as we wud like 2 give em all a chance.hehehe..So the Chance shud b 4 PA BWAto..THE HOUR HAS COME 4 THE BOAT..hehehehe

  160. “Unless a social contract to increase workers salaries is signed by all four presidential candidates, Bauleni compound residents in Lusaka would be wary to vote for anyone in next week’s presidential by election. All four aspiring presidential Candidates must sign the social contract on the constitution making process if they have to get any votes in Bauleni compound. Attending a citizens’ forum seminar, the residents say the two issues are not strange to the presidential candidates…He adds that these presidential candidates must append their signatures to the social contract agreement so …” Source: http://www.muvitv.com / news / pnew s213 . ht ml

  161. Hahaha..Pijiu..ama pint 2 much..LOL…Yeah it looks lyk RB has an advantage..but we’l accept who eva pulls thru as only 1 can b pres @ any given tym

  162. Nawakwi with your ..h history,who wudnt evict you,how many married men have you swc…..& snatched in your life???

    – B. muyaaba,
    -sine tech Sinyinza,
    – Membe post
    – Naser
    – Patrick….
    many more still going on cant remeber…..
    look at your self first

  163. Lady Nawakwi, you must have been incompetent to be chased away from MMD by the future president of Zambia Mr SATA. Even here in South Africa King Cobra has a NO NONSENSE REPUTATION. We wish the man was South African Leader.

  164. PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! PABWATO! MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!MWAMUKOLO!

  165. i havent been in the z for a while but its interesting how zambian politics has evolved.SATA or BANDA.havent we had sata enough.i mean what is he goin to do that he never did all those years in govt.for me it should be CHANGE..CHANGE….CHANGE.

  166. KA NAWAKWI EDIFFY,UNANYOPOLA NA FTJ PALASTI ATI CHILUBA NIKAWALALA.LELO UKUTI SATA NIOYIPA WAKONDA RB’.BA MONEY BANDA SEGULANI MANSO.UULEE NI UULEE.NAIMWEE MUZASALA MULI MWAMONENI MONGA MUZANU FTJ CHAMBA CHAMBA.NA TUULOO TWAMENE MULI NATO UUTOO.

  167. My favourite candidate is HH for he is overly qualified but i can accept RB as plan B.Sata doesnt exist in my plans for Zambia.If by any chance he wins then i will relinguish my citizenship until he leaves office.I cant comprehend why any person with 5 senses can vote for Sata

  168. ta has been in gvt for 4 decades and never did anything for us how can i think he would do something in the evenings of his life??????He is just supposed to retire No sensible person employs a retiree

  169. Ba nawakwi mwangeneka sanga,are you serious with what you do in life?shame on you old lady!!viva pabwatoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

  170. # 218 you’re a stinking tribalist your self. Why do you have such weired ideas?.You dont deserve to be a Zambia.Bembas just like your tribe are part and parcel of zambia’s developement.am sure you’ve been regreting not to have been born a Bemba and those are just sour grates.

  171. Sata introduced rigging to Zed politics. 1991 was a free and fair poll, 1996 was not a fair poll because Chiluba and his cohorts wanted to serve their own interests. Chawama went to the opposition when Jeff Cherise Samukonga from FDD went thru. The panga theory came in because Sata and OP had stuffed boxes and wanted to swap these with what was already in the polling booths. When the locals sensed danger , they raised the alarm and Sata unleashed the pangas so that he can deliver Chawama to Chiluba on a platter.

    As long as Regis keeps out his boys and no premarked ballots are exchanged for cash or people dont vote twice then a truly Zambian verdict will emerge.

  172. go HHHHHHHHHHHHH><:-) YOUNG AND RICH, NO NEED TO STEEL AND PUT IN HIS POKET LIKE THE SUGGER DADDY, BA TATA BA R.B.

  173. nawakwi please keep quiet, politics of hunger! if your RB wins then what will be your role! as opposition, checks and balances! I ONCE HEARD YOU DID NOT LIKE MIYANDA because tamwakalelya! you are abig time political plunderer.We are tired of respecyable political thieves may what Zambia needs now is ano nonsense lunatic inthe name of Michael VIVA PA BWATOOOOOOOO

  174. let me give some food for thought, Bush rigged the florida vote, the british used civil servants to rig elections in nigeria before it got independence. Mossad does it for self preservation. So Sata as a former constable who tasted prison for stealing suspects funds can take a shot at enhancing illegality. Even mwanawasa was not clean. I hear he owns Konkola and Luanshya mines. More from Langley Virginia (CIA Hq)

  175. ON sunday I looked for my voter’s card so that I vote for SATA , do you have a voters card or not please do so . I tell you the truth SATA is the next president . By the way Sata has the following qualities:

    S=Strength
    A=Abilities
    T=Trustworth
    A=Action THAT IS SATA OUR MAIN MAN

  176. Nawakwi, good you did not make it when we supported yo. I thought you were clean! I can smell a rat…. why should RB only go to dig up all those involved in some scandal to campaign for him. I heard Sata on BBC this morning! ONLY Miyanda is clean! Sata is not corrupt and is winning PERIOD!!!! RB is corrupt and would need these guys surrounding him now!!!! Just think of it Nawakwi who called Chiluba a THIEF after helping out in thieving!! ZAMBIANS WAKE UP and dont just hold grudges against Sata and not knowing the fight you have joined into.

    BWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  177. Indeed Sata has a following. This is to say the least disastrous for Zambia. These elections fortunately will determine whether Sata’s following is large enough to put him on the helm. Zambians supporting sata are simply deluded to think that economic emancipation can be achieved thru sata. PF followers have somehow convinced themslves that a pushy character like sata would do wonders. A busy-body without brains is not a value to economics or any other science field for that matter. PF main problem is to highly respect sata’s empty promises. For them, matters of feasibility of implimenting those promises matter less. Sata works hard and that is all that matters. This is so shallow thinking!

  178. You people who are attacking Maetro, pliz leave him/her alone. To me he/she seems well informed. Continue posting Maetro, you have my support.

  179. unfortunately, bembas are the most tribalists in this country. You can even see tribalism engraved on the face of their President. I’m happy even to tell you that I’m BEMBA myself from Mporokoso and I’ve seen what is happenning on the ground. SHAME ON YOU. zAMBIA FORWARD!!!

  180. THOSE OF US WHO CAN PRAY AND FAST, THIS IS THE TIME,CHRISTIANS ,WE GAT TO BE ON OUR KNEES.TALK ON YOUR KNEES TO GOD.WE REFUSE ANY BLOODSHED,WE CANNOT ALLOW THE ENEMY TO TAKE ANY OF OUR BROS N SISTAZ LIFES DURING THIS COMING ELECTIONS.PRAY FOR PEACEFUL AND GODLY INTERVENTION.IT’S NOT TIME TO GOSSIP, FOR THOSE THAT CAN PRAY AND FAST LET THE LORD SPEAK TO YOU TO FAST THIS WEEK FOR ZAMBIA OUR MOTHERLAND.AMEN

  181. nawakwi, u have no vision both for yo party and for zambia thus why u were chased coz Hon Sata needs people who know where they’re going.

  182. Zambians … hear my cry,i will admit Sata is popular nobody can take that away from Him. RB could have been the best but he started on a bad note. HH is the best candidate.
    Zambians Brace yourselves for a Dictator and capital flight. the dollar will be at 6000 Pin not too far from now

  183. #235, Chuma chiyenda> Thnks for everything and I will continue posting. These ill-motivated and ill-informed characters can never to anything to me to change my mindset. Take care and have a great day.

  184. I guess the Lsk Int’l and the Lsk Stock Ex will be busy come Nov 1 if Sata wins.And the busy dept will be the departures, bye bye investors, bye bye capital, bye bye markets.Zambia will remind the world of the year 2000 and Mugabe.And we will thank PF for all the poverty coming.

  185. I HAVE JUST INQUIRED FROM A TONGA FREIND OF ME IN LIVIGSTONE ON HOW SATA IS PERFORMING . THIS IS THE ANSWER AND I QUAT ” THE MAN HAS DOMINED IN LIVINSTONE” . THIS WAS AROUND 10:40 SO NIPATWOOOOOOOO

  186. By Lambwe – Kachali Kachokwe
    Chibaula Silwamba – Namwanga
    Patson Chilemba – Lala
    Masuzyo Chakwe – Bisa
    Sututu Amukena – Lozi
    Patson Chilemba – Lamba
    Abigail Chaponda – Nsenga
    Katwishi Bwalya – Bemba
    Noel Sichalwe – Mambwe
    Sheikh Chifuwe – Soli
    Christopher Miti – Ngoni
    Zumani Katasefa – Ngoni
    Allan Mulenga – Bemba
    George Zulu – Ngoni
    Kabanda Chulu – Kunda – Mfuwe
    Chiwoyu Sinyangwe – Namwanga Isoka

    There is no triblelism at the post there is objectivity – Pabwato. Some of you politician you only want the postnewspaper when it suits you.

  187. # 245 Good stats. But I promise if Sata wins and Post does not cover his complaints as usual, he will vomit on them.It happened last elections, Sata was very critical of the Post, he even praised Times of Zambia.And yes you are right politicians only like a paper hwen it suits them and PF and Sata are in bed with the post now.Lets see if it “The marriage” Lasts which I doubt.Reason being … the post is only pro-Sata coz they are aganist RB at the moment and all is well understood.They (Post) wanted magande and when he lost they could not support RB.Why Magande? MMembe who has interest in Zambian Airways wanted GRZ bail-out which was blocked by RB period.

  188. SATA fires all opposed to his ideas… NCC MP’s, LUSAKA mayor, Chishimba the democrat, Christon Tembo , NAwakwi,

    UUUM i think the muzungus and Zayelos are only useful when they suport his agenda. the day they;ll start thinking independently, they’ll be history and i dont know how many genius ideas to run the country that the old man can generate !!!

  189. Ba Edith nabo. Nakati eyshi chibaba, uzamba nkungo lili chibaba. Shimuzakanyonso chibaba….
    Pabwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo here we come!!!

  190. Ba Edith nabo. Nakati eyshi chibaba, uzamba nkungo lila chibaba. Shimuzakanyonso chibaba….
    Pabwatooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo here we come!!!

  191. PF ngataliko, bonse aba nibangwele. MMD is having sleepless nights coz of Sata. 48 hours to go.

    Pa pa pabwato, pa pa pabwato!!

  192. #230

    you got it wrong its like this

    S – Sarcastic
    A – Arongant
    T – Talkative (ama irrele)
    A – Angry, annoying, anyandule!

  193. SATA brought about the ANYANDULE regime,
    brought about vote rigging
    Opposition Pangaring
    Brown envelopes
    Self contract awarding
    Vote Rigging !!!!

    And you want the man for president

    Get a life!!!!

  194. Edith has failed to runn FDD. Now she wants to Re-Join MMD. Pipo like Nawakwi a liability to MMMD and will cause it to lose on Thursday. She never campaigned for HH in UDA. She was busy flirting with married men.We still remember the Haambulo saga. She has satired another child recenttly. she does not know how to keep her G-Strings intact.shame on you even FTJ F**K her. u sunk FDD now sinking MMD. go back kwa na bwalya.what can U advise us, even ladies despise you for jumping in bed with their husbands.

  195. This is so childish, what is so difficult to ignor someone who talking about tribes or who is insulting, this is out of topic guys.Can we act like grown ups.

  196. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, im referring to your post number 29. You asked how many Bemba names are on the list of your so-called sata’s image builders. Well, there are only three Bembas out of 16.

  197. Zambian at Heart …
    Do you have data to substantiate those claims…
    especially iyakwa sata iwe!!!
    matu nyamuka ine!

  198. #245. Sosa e chalo chilekufwa
    Whatever and whichever that list is, Meembe is accountable for everything published therein. Meembe decides what to publish and how issues must be published.
    As the case stands, Sata in the eyes of the post is the perfect man for the job of President.
    As for HH and Miyanda they receive no coverage what so ever.

  199. #246
    Lambwe – Kachali Kachokwe (Bemba)
    Chibaula Silwamba – Namwanga (Bemba)
    Patson Chilemba – Lala (Bemba)
    Masuzyo Chakwe – Bisa (Bemba)
    Sututu Amukena – Lozi
    Patson Chilemba – Lamba

  200. #266 continued.
    Abigail Chaponda – Nsenga
    Katwishi Bwalya – Bemba
    Noel Sichalwe – Mambwe (Bemba)
    Sheikh Chifuwe – Soli

  201. #627,
    Christopher Miti – Ngoni
    Zumani Katasefa – Ngoni
    Allan Mulenga – Bemba
    George Zulu – Ngoni
    Kabanda Chulu – Kunda – Mfuwe
    Chiwoyu Sinyangwe – Namwanga Isoka (Bemba)

    #246, please take time to reflect on the issue why Bemba People are more conspicous in your list of Sata’s current mouthpiece and imagebuilders The POST. If you care, please a reason for this is welcome.

  202. Fantastic submit, very informative. I wonder why the opposite experts of this sector do not realize this. You must proceed your writing. I’m sure, you have a great readers’ base already!|What’s Happening i’m new to this, I stumbled upon this I have found It positively useful and it has helped me out loads. I hope to contribute & aid other customers like its aided me. Good job.

  203. Great paintings! That is the type of information that should be shared across the net. Disgrace on the seek engines for no longer positioning this submit higher! Come on over and visit my website . Thanks =)

  204. It’s actually a cool and helpful piece of information. I’m happy that you simply shared this useful information with us. Please stay us up to date like this. Thank you for sharing.

  205. It’s really a cool and useful piece of information. I’m glad that you just shared this useful info with us. Please keep us up to date like this. Thanks for sharing.

Comments are closed.

Read more

Local News

Discover more from Lusaka Times-Zambia's Leading Online News Site - LusakaTimes.com

Subscribe now to keep reading and get access to the full archive.

Continue reading