Veteran freedom fighter Mama Chibesa kankasa says former first lady Maureen Mwanawasa should be respected as she and the rest of her family were still mourning her late husband and father Dr Levy Mwanawasa.
Commenting Federation of the Free trade Union of Zambia ( FFTUZ )president Joyce Nonde over Mrs Mwanawasa’s refusal to occupy a house in Roma Township government had found for the first lady, Mrs Kankasa urged Zambians to respect the former first lady and the Mwanawasa family.
Mama kankasa explained that the former first lady was not being difficult in as much as she is supposed to adhere to government ‘s offer.
She said Mrs Mwanawasa was merely following President Banda’s directive for her to vacate State House , but she was equally told by the president that she can only move from state house after the government found a house of her choice.
This is according to a statement made available to ZANIS in Lusaka, Saturday.
The veteran politician said it was not the first lady’s own doing but she was just following what she is entitled to.
Mama kankasa expressed disappointment that established public figures like Ms Nonde were not Zambian saying as a fellow woman, the union leader should be supportive to Mrs Mwanwasa and her bereaved family.
She noted the need to appreciate what government was doing to console the former first lady in whatever difficulties she was passing through.
Ms Kankasa said Ms Nonde should have first gone to visit the first lady in a friendly manner and inquire about the state of the house before issuing a media statement.
She urged her to love and support one other so that peace and harmony amongst each other and the nation can be fostered.
this follows an observation made on the article published in the News paper in yesterdays Post, politics of Appeasement shouldn’t be encouraged -Nonde.
ZANIS/AH/ENDS/MM
Enough of this.
Iwe Miss Atl, don’t you know that Mama Kankasa wants to be heard that she is around. People can think she is long gone, nipa zed ka!!!!!
mama is everywhere when is she going to have time for her family,we are tired of recycled politians .
This is rhetoric of its worst, is it the only family that has lost a so called bread winner? This woman is rich, they have many farms that they have recently acwuired she can go and stay there while she awaits the modern house anyway. Are all former heads living in Luxury houses? She is just being funny, such are the people that bring down the country. For how long will people sympathise with her? How many widows are suffering out there? She is not even suffering at all. Baliwina abo tebakukonkelesha iyo. Maureen just go back to Teka farms wilatushupa we also want to help other citizens and pay retirees shaaaa!
This world is very unfair,look at the house they buit for Kk,that house is worthy k7b.They wil build another 1 chiluba,despite whatever he did.And thdy wil build for this Maureen also.And these people get 80% of the current president,s salary.Retirees havent been given their benefits for years now.And some of them hav even passed on.But Maureen is comfortable nomba ale fwaya fye ukushupa!
#2 Anonymous, Mama just needs to shut up and enjoy her life. I wonder why she would get back to politics again. Can you tell me why?
ala ubusuma ta bupwa,just leave this woman she wants to continue breeding you know she was suposed to be there for 8 years ka.PALABANA IS THERE,TEKA FARM IS THERE AND MANY HOUSES IN LUSAKA AND NDOLA ANY WAY UYU MOLINI MBU UMUTIMA ACHILI ALEFWAYA MANTION KWATI NI BA KAUNDA.
i think maureen is right to refuse if its not a morden house ladies and gentlemen we are not talking of an ordinary family but this is a former first family
THIS MAMA KANKASA IS JUST POSSING NONSE NONDE SPOKE THE RIGHT THING AND THUS THERE IS NO NEED TO LOOK AT HER AS A PERSON WITH BAD INTENTIONS.DOES TELLING SOME ONE FACT CONSTITUTE AN OFFENCE KO MA NI PA ZED
Maureen is rich. See should leave the house and move one of her farms.
Woman, Humble yourself before your GOD……
Mama Kankasa with all due respect but if you’ve got nothing constructive to do you better shut the heck up!
I don’t get it, is she still in state house? Doing what??
Poverty of politics. What is wrong to advice Maureen that she needs to accept the offer. Ordinary Zambians especially the poorest of the poorest are the ones who are the losers becauses the rent it self where priorities are concerned can buy alot of medication or employ 20 to 30 teachers or policemen. When will Zambians in glass houses stop this crude and self political mileage? Before Levy and Maureen went to state house they had several excellent properties. If she is not happy she can occupy one of the properties and get rent insteady whilst waiting for her house to be built by the govt.
please shut up about this maureen saga we are tried let her go to hell if she wants.
in zambia,those who come out in the open and speak the truth, they are always castigated by well wishes wit benefits.
against the back drop of high levels of poverty and unemployment, the first family shld lead by example and demand modestly.
i commend Joyce Nonde.
This woman should be given what is due to her late husband. Mean while Zambia need to revisit this idea of just giving to former presidents. The Zambian economy can only subsidize for so much free food and housing. Maybe all former presidents should continue to work for the government or communities where they live. We need results, people like Chiluba are just living large at the expense of millions of living and dead Zambians. These former leaders need a reality check. By the way can someone from Lusaka times get us a government official to answer these questions raised particularly for those of us overseas. We can agree too schedule weekend blogs.
Dollarbill
“Commenting Federation of the Free trade Union of Zambia ( FFTUZ )president Joyce Nonde over Mrs Mwanawasa’s refusal to occupy a house in Roma Township government had found for the first lady, Mrs Kankasa urged Zambians to respect the former first lady and the Mwanawasa family.”
True and great stuff veteran politician Mama Kankasa. It appears a lot of us Zambians need expert advice especially coming from alingizi.
As much as it’s of public knowledge that Joyce Nonde is Sata’s long time fifth column concubine who has immorally compromised her matrimonial marriage vows, her irrational and sadistic behavior is not different from immorality. It’s not strange to many informed Zambians. Worse still is that her service in the Free trade Union of Zambia ( FFTUZ ) is dictated by her membership in PF where she takes orders from her sexual partner Sata typical of crony hires. Mrs Mwanawasa has entitlements to the benefits of her late husband as former head of state who died in office.There is need for Nonde to put her cadre rhetoric aside when commenting some issues.
KWENA MWE BENA ZAMBIA NAMU SAVUKA KU MA PENAULTY….IS THAT WHAT YOU CAN SAY ABOUT HTE FORMER FIRST LADY…..AFRICAN CULTURE HAS STILL HAVE SOME SANITY!!!!!!!!!!!
Maureen will continue making noise because she was promised great things by RB and MMD.The problem the gvt of zambia and the Zambians have is that they invest a lot of time & money in one person upto the point of death so much that they ignore the majority and important projects.History: Zambia invested too much in KK, too much in FTJ,more than enough in LPM & Maureen.Now you have started doing the same thing in RB.Nonde is an intelligent lady she knows what is at stake.ZAMBIANS SHOULD LEARN FROM DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. WHEN A LEADER IS NOT LIVING ACCORDING TO EXPECTATION PEOPLE DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM SUCH A ONE e.g Blair,Bush,Thabo Mbeki etc
zambia twachula nomba,next ni mu parliament were this will be discussed wait and see. politics of sympathy.twala fwilamo pantu yachililo chaba mwine
# 14 Pafwenamwine,
What are you still doing in the UK? Aren’t you leaving the UK for Zambia to die for Sata as you declared? Before the defeat you were on every blog irrationally ranting like a retard that you are ready to spill your blood in martyrdom in sacrifice for Sata should he suffer a defeat. In case it has not dawned on you yet, the rattling snake has been summarily hit on the head and its tail is wagging aimlessly on funerals, civic centers and useless tabloids. RB is now tenant No.1 in Nkwazi house.I always told you that you are an armchair critic trolling without clue.welcome to real clear politics 101.
BUSHE NAMU UNFWAKO NAKU NORTH KOREA KULI ICHILILO
I didnt know Mama has Mau’s back no wonder ututambala same same
# 22 Brown,
Be coherent explicit on former leaders’ welfare in retirement.What about all those you have cited? Are implying that their Governments are giving them their benefits they are entitled to as in their public office conditions? Come clear so that we walk you through facts.LPM like any other President served Zambia under conditions of service.Cabinet knows what his widow and children below 21 are entitled to.All those leaders you have cited like in the US look at the GAO budget report and learn how much tax payers are costed.
#6 Miss Atl, You asked why? Here are my answers 1. Her party UNIP is back ruling through Nyama Soya 2. She is broke and needs favors or an appointment as advisor to the presdo for fimo fimo. U may wonder what she can advise but pa Zed anything is possible. O nabwela first ni tambeko X factor.lol.
# 22 Brown,
Be coherent and explicit on former leaders’ welfare in retirement.What about all those you have cited? Are you implying that their Governments are not giving them benefits they are entitled to as in their public office conditions? Come clear so that we walk you through facts and figures.LPM like any other President served Zambia under conditions of service.Cabinet knows what his widow and children below 21 are entitled to.All those leaders you have cited like in the US look at the GAO budget report and learn how much tax payers are costed.
Pragmatist.Do you belong to LPM tree? You should understnd the state of the Zambian economy.I know you are in comfort. If someone can not accept what the gvt has at hand in these hardships then that person like Maureen is not patriotic.Take you time off work and visit zambia including the rural areas then you will understand what the real zambians are going through.
#25 wansekesha webo!
SINCE ZAMBIAN GOVT RELIES ON DONOR FUNDING,IG THE DONOR COMMUNITY PULLED OUT AND THE GOVT HAD TO RELY ON TAXES WOULD THEY STILL DEMAND ALL THESE LUXURIES AND HOW WOULD THE PRIORITY LIST LOOK LIKE.
i hope we wouldnt be like irak who have come out in the open that with the elect of Obama they really hope they can still continue to render military and finacial support as the country still needs the support of the US govt
Those of you who are condenming Joyce Nonde are not being realistic. What she said was right but the problem with us Zambians is that we hate the truth, whoever says the truth that he/she is public enemy number 1.
What a shame that such a remark is coming from a woman of intergrity and substance a awoman who is supposed to spearhead any abuse or violence towards gender.Joyce forst of all congratulations for getting married at 50. Or should I thank the man for picking you anomg other women as the best of all when you are above the reproductive stage,Can I tell you something Joyce os MRS….Whatever assume it is this man who dies after you have shared your lives for about ten years or so.What would you want to happen to you.Mind you Joyce Maureen’s case is not a labour issue but a gender issue in case you are mistaken.
The way you demand for workers rights is the way you are supposed to assist maureen
#20do dont be emotional she was jst expressing her viws like anybody would and why bring nkani wakwa sata muli iyi story shez not satas spokesperson mind you shez more oriented in such matters unless you have a bone to chew with her
Ba #35 kwati wachita personalize vinthu…bushe mulimushe mami? Take a chill pill ba Joyce wont even read your comments. So what what is she is 50 and got a man? You r bringing personal things amairere mami. Tusha ipod pashi…
Just go and drink free mosi ku kitchen party ala!
My bad #35 …I meant #34…chic got me confused with her negative vibes
Ba Maureen should appreciate what she has. Thousands of women would kill for that house she is refusing. She should also think of the homeless and street kids. She should thank God she got a house or houses with everything she needs.
Pharoah… Pharoah… Pharoah…
Let My People Go.
It is times like these indeed that we need devine
intervention and tonnes of intersession.
Gone are the days when women used to quarrel on the streets.. Zambian women quarrels have gone global.. even blogger’s can participate
Why don’t they give Maureen her housing allowance or whatever it is called and let her look for the house that suits her taste
wonders shall never endooooooooo
Is this much talked about house an entitlement or some kind of assistance by the government? Maybe MM is right and if so, then it should be extended to include those other widows who have no voice to be heard!
Sugar papa, the much talked about entitlement is not assistance its a law on benefits of presidents and their spouses. I agree with one point in mama Kankasa’s words. Nonde is a prominent woman and she is African too. has she never heard of anything like ‘kukuza malilo’ . instead of standing on a hill to cry about mrs mwanawasa’s house she should emulate Mrs Mugabe and Mrs Thomas Young who came all the way from Britain and Zimbabwe to console Maureen. Chaona munzako chapita mawa chili pa iwe.
#44 Thanks-your point is noted. It makes sense for her to fight for what she is entitled to. The only problem i have is that these guys do not do the same to others in the civil service-there are so many widows with unpaid benefits around the streets or markets of Zambia. They should be doing this to every widow for fairness sake.
I am personally anti presidential benefits because i feel we pay them too well and their benefits are just another handsome benefit. Its unjustifiable really. why is sata fighting to go to state house, why did Kaunda stay for 27 years, why did chiluba want a third term why is HH fighting i dont think its much about loving Zambia. its about personal benefits. if that position was that bad all these people wouldnt be fighting for it. As for other widows the BEST for them is for Government to work hard to ensure they get their benefits and NOT to deny Maureen hers.
Pragmatist you really rock. I have yearned, til this moment, to read meaningful views on this blog. But alas, most comments lack intellectual merit and show a lack of analytical detail. Keep on with the good work. As of the house in question, I would not wish Mrs LPM to occupy it because I have been there and truely speaking, it is more like a big cottage.
Atta…
This is just the beginning. More to come.
# 47 u saw the house? what were u doing there? Osanama boza unless ndwe shushushu
Why are we judging Maureen by different standards? is it because she is a woman? Ba FTJ abo baliikana land balwefwayafye ku baobab no one attacked him. Nichinji Kansi?
By the whats Joyce’s case kanshi? has she seen the house rejected by Maureen to conclude that its habitable? or she is commenting from without like the bloggers?
Frustrated maureen, hoped magande wud b picked. Wanted 2b second wife so that she continues staying ku statehouse,Alas dark cloud is on her. These r Demands of a frustrated woman
LT HOW COME PRAGMATIST IS ABLE TO POST COMMENT AFTER COMMENT AND YET SOME OF US CAN’T POST EVEN ONE COMMENT IN A DAY? I’D LIKE TO SAY NONDE IS RIGHT WHEN YOU PUT THIS SAGA IN CONTEXT. THE AVERAGE WIDOW HAS TO LEAVE ACCOMMODATION PROVIDED BY HUSBAND’S EMPLOYER AFTER 3 MONTHS. SHE OFTEN HAS NO WHERE TO GO WITH HER CHILDREN. LET US THINK OF THE SUFFERING MULTITUDES EVEN IF WE HAVE CERTAIN ENTITLEMENS. MOREOVER MAUREEN DOES NOT BEHAVE LIKE A GRIEVING WIDOW. BA NA KANKASA SHOULD NOT BE MYOPIC AS A SENIOR CITIZEN SHE SHOULD LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.
Ba Pragmatic lishilu. Have you guys followed how this villagers has be debating issues? Boot licking can turn into ass licking. Pragmatic, pick one. You are really an a** hole.
Ewe chi Wewewe # 51, 52 dont compare Maureen and FTJ, the later was president and Maureen was not, thats why she is getting only 80% of the benefits.
That woman will never learn, no wonder her quest for better life sent his husband early to his grave.
Imwe ba Kankasa, former Girl friend to KK, times have changed though we still have and embrace our cultural values. If the former first lady errors are we going to seat back and just say cause she is mourning qwe should not attack her.
She told us she will mourn forever, does this mean we should keep off her forever?????
ba Kankasa, how many retireees are still waitng to be paid their dues?? How many have died without getting their due? Ask Nitrogen Chemicals of Zambia and other scandlalous firms that have gone under. Why dont you talk about them. Of caurse because you are confortable yourself no need.Nonde has her members that struggle day in day out persuing their mearger benefits
Mama kankasa should just stick to being KK’s girlfriend and thank God she is not HIV positive. They had loads of orgy’s during the UNIP time with the commrades na ba mama region. Just look at her bleaced skin if you are in doubt.
Ba Maureen Cabbage no more family trees in the Orchard
mama shud shut up and keep quiet,maureen shud as well get a hse of her own if she does not like wat us zedians have given her,wat rite has she got to choose were to keep up,rubbish
#56 an #57 you are great guys.
we know that every widow is entitled to her late husbands benifits as per contract or agreement.
first ladies get larger benefits and mare widows get PEANUTS. some as little as K500,000.00 package whilest others as big as half the nations wealth.
but my question is, why those who get great amounts are given within a month or 3 whilest those who deserve peanuts would get it after many years or follow there spouses in the grave without getting it at all?
this is where I feel NONDE is right coz of her broad thinking. THINK GUYS. “DO UNTO OTHERS WHAT YOU WOULD WANT THEM DO UNTO YOU!!!!!!!
How many retires do we have in Zambia who havent got their benefits? How much rentals the house she refused to go in monthly the so called former first lady molini. The rentals it self per year can be paid to the old retires not lessthan 10 those who retired in 1990’s. Why as Zambia like to become papets of the rich people. Instead of fighting for your survival you fight for rich one so that you become a slave to her.
RB How much wealth do you think will remain in the country if a president of firstlady propose how much he or she be given as intitelments? Brcause LPM picked you from your Farm to become a VP now becoming a PRSD so you what to surrender the all government coffer to molini. No ways you can tell molini not to move from STATE HOUSE until she find a house of her choice. If I was molini I insist to be in the STATE HOUSE because you are given a leeway to find a house of your choice. Guys Molini is right we have to blame RB.
Tax payers are living in ramshukkles and they dont complain.mek a go to haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiil.
lean sis joy alone
lean sis joy alone.
Nice comment mama k. We need veterans to advise when kids such as joyce stray into forbiden territories. She wants to take her labour matters to aunt mo. No ways. We shall meet her with all the vernom she needs to completely shut her loud mouth and for once do some cooking for her husband.
Mama k want to be heard after a along time in the media.But Nonde said the truth if i’m not wrong ba Mrs. M. Mwanawasa did not like the house the GRZ got for her family and want a house of her own choice.It is not a bad idea, but chi Maureen should have respected the GRZ’s move and appreciated the offer and then look forward for her new house that will be paid by me as a tax payer.That is one of your renumeration and packages after leaving plot number 1.
Viva H H man of good plans for Zed.
# 61 that depends on a contract you sign, it could be a verbal or written.Have you ever signed one before? grow up and learn to consult privately.
Viva H H
why blocking my comments…
Nonde, shut your trap! you’ve destabilized the union movement with your FFTUZ. Leave Mauree alone, her family is entitled to decent GRZ provided accomodation regardless of whatever ‘private’ property they own.
First she should respect herself, what was wrong with Joyce Nonde condemning her extravagant demands? Does she know there are widows out there who have waited for years to get their meager benifits? its this unnecessary pampering of our leaders that has created problems. In civilsed societies that Maureen would be considered just as an ordinary person and as such expected to join the queue, not jumping the queue.
Mrs Kankasa, when are you going to retire? Just shut up. You and your chi KK brought us all the agony we are going thorugh as a nation. Sha!
MAMA KANKASA do more to advise those ladies that are ready to undress in front of men protesting about election results.This is not the time to emulate your old system of politics.BIG UP MAMA KANKASA for speaking out and showing your concern to our former 1st lady.
I am starting to believe that inequalities in Zambia will always be there and that the gap between the bourgeoisie and those that are socially excluded will keep growing in our believed country. Honestly; the lumpen proletariat, that Joyce Nonde is trying to protect; are the same ones who are now protesting and denouncing her. When are we as Zambians going to wake up, smell the coffee and realise that we are being exploited.
MAMA,WE THANK U FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE COUNTRY, BUT THIS TIME U BETTER KEEP QUITE BECOZ WE NEED FRESH MINDS. WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR TYPE. U DONT BRING PROGRESS IN OUR LIVES BOCOZ WHEN U TALK, U DONT TALK GENUINELY. U AV SELFISH AGENDAS.
enough for this..its painful to lose a husband…but she is not the first one IN ZAMBIA OK!!. dont you zed people having something else to worry for?? LIKE DEVELOPMENT MATTERS….
Please Zambians, the former first lady is not the only woman who has lost the husband in Zambia. why should the country stand still because of her. Our women our suffering because of poor deliver and dishonest of our politicians. Ask me, many women their husbands died as civil servants long time ago, they have not yet been given their benefits. For Maureen it has become a matter of agency.Why? Tell the so called mama Kankasa to advocate also for populars widows who have been going through difficult moments after the death of their beloved one’s.
when u enter through the back into any house, u are a thief and u do not have to be a jubilant. Thought for the day.
Bintu bikingya…
I will go with # 78. Alot of people who have offered their selfless service to the counmtry and have died without getting any benefits after retiering. Their spouces and children are now the destitutes roaming the streets in the urban centres. The prostitutes u see are also the result of this neglet. Indeed Maureen is not the only widow. Kankasa’s adivise is misplaced and good thinking Nonde.
Maureen, is proving to be an id iot, and antagonisitc.. She lacks wisdom. Let her move out of statehouse.. If he had brains she would have mooved out long time before Banda was elected …we know that she needs a house as per her entitlement..but being on public media and clinging to SH is abit too naive…She could have left for her farm in Palabana..and then let zambian people fight for her..We have always been a decent people who would never let the Rb govt mistreat her.
There is always tym for everything .So Maureen should just leave State House
Here is what the CIA have briefed the in coming President Elect on Zambia and Maureen. She has refused Ambassador position and wanted to be VEEP. CIA advises RB to be careful Maureen because she is cauiser of family tree.
Joyce Nonde (50) married simukoko (62) her long time boyfriend when they both worked for Buidling Society. Joyce does not work but holds a union position. RB we need to flush out these mercenaries. I hear Alec Chirwa also chews Joyce. The CIA thought that it was only Dora Siliya who was a backward in terms of morals.
maureen ni ziii……….make yo demands girl they shouldnt take u for aride.
Some people are ordinally while others are more odinally
NCC please change our constitution. No former head of state should be entitled to a house and all. It’s so unfair in that majority of Zambians live in poverty.
Maureen is asking for too much. One gets the impression people are not in govt to serve people; they just serve personal interest.
It is arrogance and madness to assert one’s right to access a new house. What is happening to Roma?? Where do you want a house? In New Kasama? What has happened to Roma?
Maureen is possessed.
#73 KK did not have much of a law on benefits for former leaders because he himself did not believe he would live state house. I think Chiluba with bena sata worked out this law after they saw bena Grey Zulu in the streets after they took over Government.
# I dont think the best way to do justice to the other widows is to give Maureen a ramshackle or deny her a house. The bets way is to demand that as they give Maureen other widows in the police army and civil service must cue at cabinet to receive their dues.
Abena China you dont seem to understand the benefits what 80% if i may ask? Coz Kaunda and Chiluba get 80% of the salary of the incumbent. If you have any idea what is Maureen supposed to get? dont just argue. May concern is that we seem to have different yardsticks for men and women. You seem to have a love for gossip and its difficult to debate like that. ‘Her quest for better life sent her husband to the grave early’ Really? where did you get this infor from? from the late levy? Muletekanya yama!
wewewe, molinazo is entitled to 50% as widow. even if superken was to kick the bucket betty fimofimo would be getting 50%. if the spouse also kombokas, then the family is entitled to same until the youngest attains the majority age which is 21. balebasunga bwino aba bantu when are our families are struggling to even get bondwe. twati no no no!
Former first lady should now be out of topic instead pipo should talk about developmental issues rather than trying to build there image after all that they hav do wrong in this world big up YOU stop your old tactics of geting natinal attention some you should be sent to farm’s for Farming since the rains are back.
#92 you are right that guy was trying to mislead us by saying Maureen is getting 80%. But i hope you understand too that even when we deny Maureen what we with our eyes open allowed to go into the constitution as her entitlement it will not automatically translate into a payment for other widows. Solution: 1. change the law if we are not happy, 2. push the Government to ensure pensioners or their widows get their dues on time.
Its a pity maureen made this public. she could have easily sought an appointment with RB and told him i think i dont like the house. or was it our dear POST? the best thing for the former first lady is to disappear from the lime light. It will do her a lot of Good. any advisors out there?
unless she starts behaving!
otherwise give me 22 reasons why i shud respect her??
This Kankasa woman just wants Maureen to buy her some Jaribu.
Kankasa stop poking your nose into affairs that concern you.
sha
Maureen should just be given her husbands retirement benefits and she can find where to stay. It is not the duty of the Zed Govt to rent a house for Maureen because it is not her who President, but her late husband. If Govt want rent a house for Maureen, then they must rent house for all windows whose husbands died on National duty, and this must include windows to the late National Team players who died in the Gabon air disaster. Just who the hell does she think she is. She is not the first woman to loose the husband. What of Mrs Mudenda wife to the late former Prime Minister Elijah Mudenda
Ba Justice before you kill yourself with anger Maureen is entitled by LAW which we Zambians made and have agreed to. the others you mention are not included in that law but in the separate collective agreements they sign with their employers. What does yours say? that your widow is entitled or not? So while the first lady is covered people like Mrs Kavindele Mrs Nevers Mumba and Mrs Christon tembo just like Mrs Mudenda Elijah are not covered. You think we need a new law to cover them? tell your MP to present it at the NCC.
Ms Mwanawasa should do the honourable thing and vacate State House as she is now a private citizen.It is insulting that Banda is using cabinet offices to run the country.A modern house she is looking for cannot be built in a matter of months.We do understand power can sweet,but too much of it can lead to problems.
Imwe Maureen is not at at State house.
What comes around goes around!! her self and the late husband were behaving us if giving chiluba a house was up to them. You see what God can do? Dont mistreat others just cos you are in the driving seat. Mwanawasa and the wife were put on that seat by chiluba. Mwanawasa never won any election in zambia. Chiluba rigged 2001 for him. they turned against him and started locking him up. very ungreatful people. You see now?
Imwe Mama K is Mau’s idol simuona tutambala same same? Elo Mama K afuna kumupasa tuma suits, tutenge, tusampato natuma handibenge that Mau doesnot like anyone. Mama K chibeleshi lelo sure kuli Mau all this time.
There is a pic of Mama K crying like crazy namalende kuchoka on thepicturemonger.blogspot.com just under month August.
mama kankasa is the one who banned fashion parades. she should leave zambians alone. she has caused them a lot of misery in the past.
mama k before you tell pepo how to behave look at your own child mwansa. tell her how to treat people right before you preach to the zambian people on how to behave. charity begins at home. shame on you.
Mwansa ewisa kanshi? say more dont assume because you ve met Mwansa then we all know her or him.
“She said Mrs Mwanawasa was merely following President Banda’s directive for her to vacate State House , but she was equally told by the president that she can only move from state house after the government found a house of her choice.”
Fine the house was found in Roma, why can’t she move. Amano yau DIVA.
Wewewe mwaiche what are exacly tring to tell me under which provisions of the LAW of Zambia states that if and when a setting President dies on duty, the window shall be entilted to a govt rental house. In this context Wewewe I refer to what is known as “mandatory and discreational functions”. The offer to Maureen was discretional and mandatory from part of the govt. Under the law, i.e. subject to the word “shall”. If you can quote the chapters of the law of Zambia that depict or state as you want to prove than otherwise, please let the public know. Do not just bark like a dog. Can u tell me any LAW that states that a Widow to a late President is entilted to a GOVT rental house.
Why shud I come back to Zed with all this nonsense. Maureen shud leave within her means….period. No wonder she delayed in announcing the funeral because she wanted to position herself financially.
…..could you wewewe start by saying ” in accordance to section so and so of the LAWS of Zambia and support by standing order so and so Maureen has the right to claima rental house of her own choice
widow
no.106 mwansa kankasa is the biggest con woman in the history of zambia.
# 108 am alot more civilised than you in that i dont use words like dog to refer to human beings. why are you taking it so person to an extent of insulting others? what has maureen done to you. You seem to have a bitter grudge that you can kill over this topic. anything we need to know? which law did you cite again? “mandatory and discreational functions”. is that a law? There is no law which says Maureen is entitled to a rental house but there is a law which says Maureen is entitled to a house to be constructed for her. this is under the act that talks about the benefits of a President. I am not a lawyer so i cant qourte the exact law for you but i can research it for you if you cant.
#112 i get you. but are you sure parents should be held accountable for there daughters who are above the age of 21 and can make decisions between bad and good on their own?
Mwe Bantu,Maureen needs a house like Buckingham Palace,why mu funa kumu faka mu servants quarter because LEVY IS NO MORE?Money is there for the former first family!
what happened to DR KK AFTER LOOSING ELECTIONS IN 1991,WAS THERE ANY HOUSE FOR HIM.MAULE SHOULD LEARN TO APPRECIATE.
Koma mwabanena ba moleen.Joyce akalipa chifukwa ba sata sibanawine he had obviously promised her ka post as girlfriend or is it ex manje since you say she got married?Moleen is very selfish elo takaleke she will continue to be difficulty like a spoilt child.
# i find it very difficult to understand alot of arguments against Maureen. Alot of people seem to be saying that mediocrity is the Zambian standard. why are we saying because KK suffered all the others must not complain? why should we say because widows whose husbands died a long time ago are suffering everyone else must be treated the same! i think our declaration should be Never again in the history of our country should a former head of state be treated the way chiluba did to KK… Never again in our country should we allow widows to suffer. And then all those unfairly treated must stand up and say ‘ treat us by the maureen standard! isnt that better?
Lets not miss the point! It’s government responsibility to accomodate former presidents and their wives (official ones only). State house is for incumbent presidents. All effort must be taken to ensure that standards are comparable. Reason recognises that sometimes governemt may not have a suitable alternative, however,it is not good precedent for any of the entitled to be setting conditions for vacating state house. Humility,wisdom and patience called for.
#20 Give us facts dont just speculate. Nonde is someones’s wife. #20 you are out of order!!!
It is within her rights to move to a house of her choice..what i dont understand is why her things were moved there in the first place, why did she allow it only to refuse to move to the house later? Isn’t that being difficult? She is a widow, fine but does her behavior demand respect? She has not behaved in an African manner and seems to derive pleasure from making headlines. I personally dont have much respect for her, i was LPM’s fan but her… nay.
KANKASA = EX KK GIRLFRIEND
Joyce Nonde is a selfish woman who won’t even keep her marriage. No wonder she got married after menopase. Leave Maureen alone! She’s entitled to a better house. Women learn to support each other. Ma ma Kankasa, you are a true african woman!!
Some of you dont think before passing comments. You should try to be emphathetic. What would you do if you were in Maureen’s shoes. She is not asking for what doesnt belong to her. Mwanawasa died for this country and his family deserves the best Zambia can give them. Like it or not Maureen has contributed to the development of this nation so think before you say rubbish
Maureen,let me tell you point blank and in no uncertain terms:You are nothing but a mere former wife of our late Presido!Learn to be grateful woman! There are people out there who are in dire need of that sane house you’re rejecting.Thank God for what He done for you.I am telling you this with indignation. Shame on you!!
I mean ‘same house.
Mama who? you are old enough don’t command people to respect morini!!! Respect is earned let her not show the nation that she is so special and needs a modern house. Mama define a modern house for Zambians!!! Morini is a mere housewife so she is not a president or does she want the Foreign Mission from MMD/Banda as Mapushi’s wife her sister was given by Mwanawasa??? Let her just keep quite no one will talk about her!!!
Chaps, nishani ama jealous? If the contstitution says widow should get this and that, give it to her PLEASE. You don’t like Maureen’s face? Well, too bad. The law says she is entitled to all those things. Try being President or First Lady or something on those lines may be your bitterness will subside. Shame, what a country…
Mama Kankasa is getting into the news latetly.She must be missing her heydays.Can’t she keep her shrill voice for something else? She is way way past being a political force.She is history.
Good morning People, we here again!!!! Wow!!!these veterans are becoming news makers now, have you observed that this only began when RB become a Presidential candidate…Mama something with all respect due,please shut UP!
For God’s sake she is the former First Lady not just a normal civilian. She is entitled to certain benefits. Dont compare any Zambian widow to Maureen pl……..ze.
Why are we women always in the fore front of fighting one another. Even if Maureen has go no reason to complain about whatever house is given to her; it is very shameful that Joyce Nonde feels she can use that story for her own political millage. When is this “pull her down” syndrome among women going to end?? This is a total embarassment ba Nonde, this is not a story worth losing you sleep over; please reserve your energies for looking after your new husband.
BA LT why are u sleeping? update your info kaili bamashina Marriam makeba nabafwa
That Joyce Nonde whose mouth cant close because she has too many teeth like a shark should no what to say. Maureen is a fellow woman who she must be sympathetic to and support. We know that she used to privide horizontal refreshments to Sata but she should avoid politicising this issue. At 50 years she has only been married for two weeks to a widower let her listen to advice from Mrs Kankasa shame……………
#134 tekanya….how about maureen with darlington mwape? while married? before u take a stick from nonde’s eye take that chi log from maureen’s eyes first
Ba Golyati ichikoloko chikamipaya….i din’t know it was that bad…honestly you could read what Joyce was saying and how she was saying it…
MARRIAM MAKEBA IS DEAD
#134 Golyati, well said.
When are we ever going to be free from this Nonde fella? She has been a serial leader for ZUFIAW and the so called FFTUZ since 1992 when that Rev Mulenga was sent into diplomatic service by Chiluba. She rigs elections and sometimes disqualifies those who want to challenge her. Shame, shame, especially now that the PF boat has sunk for good.
MHSRP!!!
Retirees have not been paid their dues and yet we now have a government renting the whole Lodge for one super rich and selfish woman.
Come on Maureen show us that you have a human heart. Surely you are not a destitute.
RB PLEASE DO NOT MAKE PROMISES AS IF ZED IS YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY. Let the woman go – she should not hold the nation to ransom.
KK LEFT STAE HOUSE LONG AGO AND ONLY GOT HIS HOUSE THIS YEAR.
WHY IS MAUREEN SPECIAL – MULEFWAYA MPALI?
All those opposed to maureen are PF cadres who do not have regards for former leaders. Look at the way they derespected FTJ. By now pipo are realising that these pipo have nothing to offer Zambia
looks like 134 and 138 is the same person…noone can agree with irrelevant comments
MR TRUE!…Ichoo! myopic….
PF for life!!!!
spot ON Lisa!!!kAALISHILU
Sometimes I wonder whether these PF zealots like Nonde have any morals or humanity. They just oppose for the sake of anything to do with government. No wonder grown men and women are undressing in public. like ther boss it is a party of lunatics
144 dont start things u can end….nebo ndi shilu? thank you my zambian brother i love u…may God bless you always. have a nice day and keep smiling
Well, Maureen will be given what she is entitled to and you can bleed to death if you like. May be try bungee jumping without a rope for all we care. Mwaba shani webantu with such jealous? On Sunday you even go to church while harbouring such burning hatred for Maureen just because she was married to Levy!!! For your free information, Maureen did not write the Zambia constitution or whatever is being used to give her the benefits she deserves. So spare the womwn, she is innocent on this one.
WHILE ITS ZAMBIAN GAMES, TWALIMISHIBA GUYS
Did the Government just impose the house on her? If it was the case then it was wrong. At least she should have been given a number of houses to choose from.
132 tawakwata amano, nonde is rite
143 Spectator
PF is only one man Sata. And because reality has now caught up with him that he will never rule this country, he is secretary negotiating with MMD for a position in Government. You will wake up very soon to hear that Sata has joined MMD. That is when you will know that PF is Sata and the only riminder of pabwatoo will be when you are cathing a bath in your bathtub.
morin just go
Maureen should simply come to terms with the reality that her husband is dead and buried in the main street of Lusaka. State House is the residence and office of a living president, in this case RBBanda. She needs to move out. She is actually lucky that Sata (who she chased at her husband’s funeral) lost the elections, otherwise it would now have been her turn to have her goods thrown out of the State House fence!
Sata will never rule this country, he has tried three times and has failed. If these were exams at university he would have been told to exclude school.
Nonde is right was asked to comment as the house Maureen refused she had accepted and the government furnished. Mama Kankasa just want to get involved and closer to Maureen. Remember she had gone to lobby chiefs for Maureen to stand as President. Just watch these well to do who are not satisfied with what they have – want more and more recognition. To be heard……… Nonde did not insult Maureen. If mama is sensible enough should not encourage differences among women.
This chap the so called former first lady,things changes thats the thing she should know she is not the only to be the widow.We all know that she was mrs mwanawasa so what?she wants to rule us atase.GET OUT.
RB should put his foot down Maureen is no easy woman when it comes to what she wants. LPM was tough on her this is why she did most thing behind husbands back. This is a poor country people must be realistic! Of course we are not saying she could be put in a servant’s quarter. There is nothing like PF or MMD Zambia belongs to all!!!
#154, GOLYATI, impressive on exclude issues.
151. GOLYATI,
Now i believe that you, like any other MMD cronies thrive on fantasy… Sata is not ready to work with a corrupt bunch of wolves ensembled in the name of democracy, which is a misnomer if you ask me…Sata will never work in the MMD government but will be President of this country…by the way when are doing the new cabinet?!
146. Lisa,
I was not hating on you, I meant the guy you referred to in your last posting…My Bad!
Now back to the issue at hand, Maureen in as much she has certain entitlements she needs to know that she can only operate within that framework hence she should not try to push her luck too much…
I did not see anything wrong in what Nonde noted…as for ba Mama something…Please!!!!
Hey anonymous, nice to see we agree on this one, keep on keeping on am following your postings with interest.
Enough of this ex-first lady nonsense!!!!! Dont we have beter things and much more improtant things to talk about….She can go where ever she wishes ( As long as they are not going to misuse our hard earned cash to put her up in a luxurious Lodge in Kabulonga for donkey months).. What and where she stays is not relevent at this point in time….
Bana CHIPO problem yenu you think as if you are the president or kwati you were a president of Zambia awee ni mwanawasa not you woman.And dont push things as if you were in goverment ka.You have a problem and every one knows that ba sister.You have got money and you want to finish all what you left with yourlate husband.
159 spectator
For your info I have always been UNIP and never MMD. I only support what is right. As for corruption Sata was at the very epicentre of it during his and Kafupi’s reign in MMD. Who does not know that Sata was Kafupi’s hatchet man. It is only due to his dullness that Kafupi dribbled him of the MMD’s presidence in preference for Mwanawasa.
This idea of building houses and giving other hetf benefits to former presidents should come to an end now rather than later,we r a poor nation can’t afford say 8 former presidents suppose they all have lives of DR KK and MADIBA.I support the idea of them doing some community service to benefit the general populacy.
I meant we can’t afford to pay 8 former presidends if they r living.
NOW guys what happens to regina chiluba if FTJ passed on?Is gone keep Antony Mwamba?
But guys you can talk. Any way my contribution is that if there was a competition for best Zambian first ladies and their contribution o society and humility, Vera wa Mtarika would win owing to her Hope Foundation. Maureen Mwanawasa Initiative was a fake. Ba Betty nabo we don’t know what she was doing except wait for KK’s love songs…LOL
His name is Emmanuel Mwamba
I dont think so if ABANA ABO BAMUDALA BASHA MULI BAFIRST WIFE NGA BAKAETAMBA BWINO OR BALAETAMBA BWINO.You just think that to TU CHIPO etubana tweka awee wishi alibomba kale give them accodingly.Lets hope Banda (RB) takalale pakwakanya money yabana.I can see maureen ala shupa mayo uyu.Ati she wants a moden house atase nabo niba President.RB dont be very dull say it out like the late,if she dont want then its over.this country is not for one person or for maureen or MMD, FP and UPND no!!! guys mwanawasa mwanawasa its history now move on RB do what you prosimed people.
i suppose madam nonde came out correctly on this issue.why should morrin refuse a house which other widows are yearning for.all those supporting morrin do not work and dont understand what it means to pay 35% tax and get nothing at the end of it.eg no medicines in hospitals………..,.
Why do you people hate Maureen so much? Can someone enlighten me please.
I don’t know a reason why she is so hated except that she was once married to a President, she’s educated and she looks stunning at her age.
Ama jelousy mwe bantu, lekeni. She’s just human with like pation as yourselves. Leave her alone, please. Ni muka mfwilwa. Efyo mulushila ama elections even when you have so much support.
The Bible says God is a defender of widows and orphans, it does not say God will defend ‘poor’ windows and not rich ones. PHD (Pull Her Down) yalichilamo pa Zed. Succeed or fail on your own.
#172 Looks Stunning at her age? Iwe? No wonder you are Sata’s 3rd wife. I rest my case
she probably wants to move to white house which is never the less impossible,please let her be reminded that she is former first lady not president
ok!
Can people please be more sensitive towards the situation. yes we are allowed to share our opinions but we can do this in a more civilised manor. number one mama kankasa is no longer in politics but our past president Levi Mwanawasa asked to be an adviser to him. Lets not forget she does her a life and has done much goof for Zambia people shud hve respect and not be passing comments telling her to shutup she is our elder therefore lets respect those who fought for the independence of our nation