By JERRY MUNTHALI
SPEAKER of the National Assembly Amusaa Mwanamwambwa yesterday ruled that cabinet ministers appointed by President Mwanawasa will continue performing their functions under the current head of State, President Banda, until he makes changes to the composition.
He also said Minister of Defence George Mpombo would act as leader of Government business in the House irrespective of the vacant position of Vice-President in the executive.
Mr Mwanamwambwa made the ruling after Lusaka central member of Parliament Guy Scott (PF) raised a point of order on constitutional matters regarding the appointment of Mr Mpombo as acting leader of Government business in the House.
In the point of order, Dr Scott argued that Mr Mpombo could not act as leader of Government business because there was no substantive leader of the House.
He also argued that the two ministers of agriculture, Sarah Sayifwanda and Ben Kapita were appointed by the late President Mwanawasa and that they were not supposed to be in the House.
Dr Scott also said nominated members of Parliament were not supposed to be in the House because Dr Mwanawasa who nominated them died.
In his ruling, Mr Mwanamwambwa said constitutionally, the people of Zambia were required to go for general elections every five years.
He said this comprised local government, parliamentary and Presidential elections, which were commonly known as tripartite elections.
Mr Mwanamwambwa said what the people of Zambia did on October 30 was to carry out one of those three elections which was the Presidential election.
“Please note that cabinet was not dissolved, there was the acting President who carried out the function of Head of State up to the day of election.
Following the October 30 election, cabinet continues until dissolved if the President so wishes,” he said.
Mr Mwanamwambwa advised the House to note that where there were proper systems in a Government, the executive continued irrespective of the vacancy in that particular executive.
“Though it may not be visible to your eyes, the position of Government leader does exist. It is not necessarily held by the Vice President but any of the senior Ministers,” he said.
Mr Mwanamwambwa said Mr Mpombo was one of the senior ministers who could act as leader of Government business in the House.
On the two ministers of agriculture, Mr Mwanamwambwa said it was not new that Zambia had two ministers of agriculture.
He said this fact was known long ago and that if any member wished to raise the issue, they could have done so a long time ago.
Mr Mwanamwambwa said the only difference was that the two ministers were now both in the House and that they would stay there until the appointing authority decided otherwise.
“Since Parliament was not dissolved and you did not go for parliamentary elections, all positions continue, including nominated MPs, until the appointing authority decides otherwise,” the Speaker said.
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ba speaker bala tinya pa menso. Pabwatooooooooooooooooooo
wina azalila. Is Mulongoti still sick? Update
who is the minister representing, as the position is usually occupied by the Vice President.
did u know that an american urologist bought napoleon’s penis for $40,000
#4 Kingcobra
what is the relevance of that in the zambian context
What will happen to the pipo from the opposition who were campaigning for RB? coz they wanted to be given ministerial posts.Owe Nawakwi,Sakwiba,Nevers,BY nabambi abashala.
#4 King combra what is happening my friend?
The problem is that PF chaps think they can challenge everything even when they are not sure about the issue/case
which cabinet……they are all in suspense….it does not make sense to open parliament before the new cabinet is anounced….
ITS NONSENSE…..rb WAKE UP AND TELL US WHO U WILL BE WORKING WITH…. TIME TO WORK IS NOW NOT SLEEPPING SICKNESS. CURRENT OLD WOOD CABINET CAN NOT DELIVER ANYTHING AS ALL THERE ENERGY IS FOCUSED ON WAITING……………I HOPE U ARE NOT SLEEPING MR pRESIDENT?????
#4 KINGCOBRA
Word of advise to your thoughtless mind ,
Wise men talk because they have something to say; f00ls, because they have to say something and hey ‘Tis better to be silent and be thought a f00l, than to speak and remove all doubt…please take heed I am only out for you my friend!
# 4 wat is the relationship between the topic on issue and napoleon’s penis?
Does the MMD have any vision at all we wait…
#4 Kingcobra i think whoever contributes on this site is a grown up.for this reason we dont exect comments like that from u,tell us what will buid the nation not the penis issue, shame on u
#5 He has informed us. Now we know!
…elephants can jump!
#4 U HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER THIS NATION ——– PLEASE GO TO ANOTHER SITE FOR PONO….ISSUES….PLS B OBJECTIVE AND ADVISE ON THE WAYFORWARD ISSUES
What does our constitution say about National assembly in lieu of a pres by election? any one to enlighten us please?
I told you to vote for young energetic HH. What do you expect wen you vote for old expired people? Only God knows wen your presdent wil come out of hibernation..! Balibomba kale why did u have to bring him back? Mpombo nao muntu wa ku chita promote? Mina batu open up your minds and start thinking. Hopefuly by 2011 mukaba ni ngana and vote wisely
#4 Kingcobra; what are you suffering from?
Three MMD crooks, VJ, Teta and Mike were out on a campaign trail in one of the three planes above the Zambezi plains of Lealui. Below were a handful of people moving about minding their own business.
VJ: Politics is not about morality, it is about results! I think Ben drop a K50, 000 note. We may capture one voter down there.
Benny: Hell no! I think we should split the K50, 000 into K10, 000 notes. At least we can capture 5 voters that way.
By then Mulongoti sniffed from his sneezing and said;
Mike: Why then can’t we change the same 50 pin into 5pins so that 10 people can vote for Bwezani? Atleast we shall maximise the votes
#13 Kingcobra
Fwaka!! oli chipuba
Mwanamwambwa is right, in the absence of a veep, the president or the cabinet can choose any minister to act as a leader of government business in the house. In fact Mpombo has acted before. There is nothing wrong with that. However, it is true Mwanawasa’s death has opened our eyes as we now can see that our constitution is not clear on many issues including nominated MPs.
cont.
By then Mulongoti sniffed from his sneezing and said;
Mike: Why then can’t we change the same 50 pin into 5pins so that 10 people can vote for Bwezani? Atleast we shall maximise the votes ni chwee!chweee! chweeeee!!!
Just then the pilot screamed and said, “Why can’t I simply crash this damn plane so as to save millions from such hopeless characters like you!”
By responding to someone out of topic, you are derailing yourselves in regards to the subject.Best policy is to ignore what you deem irrelevant
12. Anonymous!
So how does the knowledge of the phallus enrich your understanding base?! Ba Speaker you are too Partisan mudala, why are you busy justifying the position of two ministers? even it is not strange or the first time, does it make it right and necessary?!
Georgia Russia – how are mudala?!
RB is confused and really doesn’t know what to do with the new found power. Reminds me of a famous story of a DOG chasing a truck with full belief that it will never catch the truck, but one day the truck stopped and the Dog caught the truck and didn’t know what to do with the truck apart from bite the tyre and run back home into hiding with a tail between it’s legs. I wonder why RB is hiding from showing some leadership. If this guy had a plan he should have had his team running by now. This guy is still VP in his mind and still waiting for orders or rather to be told what to do and it just shows
Mwanamwamba needs to be replaced.He has been speaker for too long.
Nyama Soya z confused who to appoint coz KK,FTJ,Maureen,Katele & group have given him a list of cabinet.
He does not know which list to persue.
• To force a tortoises’ legs from its shell to treat it, you need to place your finger up it’s bottom…
I agree with Guy Scott that all Ministers and MPs that were nominated by LPM resign. The appointing (or is it nominating) authority is dead so what are they still doing in Parliament and Govt. Mike Mulongoti and the rest should go until RB renominates them.
And the issue of announcing a Cabinet, honestly what is RB still waiting for?
• To escape the grip of a crocodile’s jaws, push your thumbs into its eyeballs-it will let you go instantly.
#13 – They can also dance kalindula!
• In England, the Speaker of the House is not allowed to speak.
#4 what is your problem?Renew your thoughts think about s’thin constructive.
How can nominated MPs continue working when the one who appointed them has died? Mwanamwamba’s explanation does not satisfy me. Why is he linking the nominated MPs to the elected one and yet the appointing authority can drop them whenever he/she wants? This really mind boggling. If I were a nominated MP I would out of principle tender my resignation since the one who appointed me is dead. But can Zambian politicians do this? No!
#30 yeah..he just listens!
Guy Scott should know that it is the President that appoints Ministers and not the incumbent. Ministers swear allegiance to the President and not to Mwanawasa or RB as the case seems to be misunderstood.
What Buy is doing is encouraging over-powerful leaders, leaders who fail to draw a line between the President and the incumbent.
Grow up you unrully kaponyas
I think alot more suprises are on the way.he is not quiet for nothing it will be like LPM`s illness he kept asuring us he was stable and one morning just to learn of his death.There is lack of transperance in MMD.alot of action is un explained.I.E why should pipo insist on nominating RB for party president when they can goto convention and others dont speakup openly for the fear that should he go thru they will not be apointed fimofimo.there is no democracy and we will take many years for democracy to be a reality in zambian politics
I always hate it it when the blog loses its objective and subjects us to F00LS, like these two Kingcobra and Anonymous…Am out of this thread!
can any one enlighten us on the nominated MPs. Or is it the continuity that they kept on preaching. it is the duty of R.B to inform us that he will keep the cabinet which worked under LPMwanawasa and not the speaker. has RB told the Speaker to tell us.
Hope we are not flying without a pilot
Honestly, the President needs to know that by now he should ve appointed his team. and make decision on the nominated members as he also has to nominate up to ten members. Please move fast boss!
The Spectator!! am fine mwana,ala king cobra walashupa,is this your first time u using internet,
Guy Scott is right. I agree with him
#28 …additionally it will take you to the shore and kiss you good bye!
we have a leardeship crisis in zambia,we have low calibre leaders governing this country,mpombo heard of house in parly,iye,there shud be educational qaulifications on whos shud stand as an mp,twalema
Attention-seeking, bored Retard! Nobody forced you to be in self-imposed exile. Go back home.
It is tough to come up with a Cabinet if your list is too long. hope the teta’s of this world are not confusing RB with their applications. RB you only have 2 years 11 months and some days to 2011 so work fast. How hard is it to come up with names of pipo to work with we need Cabinet now cos some ministers will not be working becos they don’t know there fate.
Go RB and prove us wrong.
You are incharge You are the President……
There is a difference between the Presidency and the occupier. The day you understand this concept is the you will know the important of putting in power educated pipo who can articulate issues properly, following procedure and upholding the constitution.
That’s what RB stands for…
#46 – It stands for Rubbish Bin….unless i have go the answer wrong. Any teacher out there to mark me wrong or right?
nominated by President please….distinguish between office and individuals..grow up chaps
MAMA Kabuko wants in on the veep position and this has put RB mu Kona.
Bali pa stale mate mu party pantu others have refused outrightly and others also questioning the exagarated attention being accorded to her when several if not millions of Zambians could better their lives if only GRZ paid them alittle attention. There are major porblems in MMD according to Akalimbusha. More is yet to be revealed
The office of the president is an institution which is not an appointing authority, while the president is the appointing authority with the paower to hire and fire at will. Now here are 8 idividuals hired at the will of a now deceased individual. It is only right for the new president to request for their resignations and reappoint them – if he so wishes, since for now, our ambigious constitution gives him huge powers to dance on our heads. Its not the best of constitutions but let the GRZ utlise it in its current form and stop abusing its citizens. Its very bad for the Nation.
#47 how about rejected ballot? cant i get a mark?
Dr Guy Scott
LPM once said its very bad not to know LAW but its too dangerous to know a Bit of it. The dilema with you Mr scot is that even if you combined with UPND and walked out, parliament would still continue with buisness because MMD has the numbers needed to pass bills.infact next time dont walk out stay at home so that you even loose the daily allowance because like this you gatting the daily allowances for walking out
#4 Pliz Grow UP.
#50
Law is a fair vice without passion. those 8 pipo where appointed by the office of the president which at the time was occupied by LPM that office is still there and is now occupied by RB, that office has never fired these pipo or found wanting to the best of my knowledge. why are you asking for there Blood. If you work and your boss dies and gets replaced do you resign.lets not waste time on this matter Mr scott is a DR led by a Grade 4 dropout.even if parliament was to vote, PF combined with UPND have no numbers.
imwe ba pumpwe.. it took you 2 freaking hours to swear your bwezani as president.. so now why is it taking him almost 3 freaking weeks to appoint his new cabinet.. and as for the list of people on the vp slot.. yall gat to be freakiking kidding me!!!!!
and abash mpombo!!
Apart from Mulongoti, who else is a nominated MP?
RB is in state of confusion as who he will appoint as VP because he promised 11 people the same position. Last week, he cancelled a trip to Kenya at the 11th hr after being advised by the AG and CJ that instruments of power would have to remain in the hands of a VP or a cabinet minister who has sworn allegiance to him. Poor RB. No trip to Kenya to discuss DRC or SA to discuss ZIM! RB again cancells a trip to Western Province on Monday! The man is just confused and sleeping! Magande has been offered a job by IMF and he will soon be handing in his resignation letter.
LT LT ‘THIS TOPIC WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BROUGHT YESTERDAY NOT TODAY THIS TIME BECAUSE THIS WAS THE 19HRS NEWS’ WE WANT LEAST PLESEA !!! IT IS GOOD BUT WE WANT VERY CURRENT NEWS
The problem with SPECTATOR iz that he thinks he iz a pot of knowledge such that we should all agree with him.
Wherever PF cadres are its fights this y i emphasize that u go 4 a convention so that yo allengency will b to idealogy of the party and not ba SATA. What does PF stand 4 anyway,all i know is that it was formed when SATA lost an election to LPM and formed it out of anger and not bcoz he believed in something different.
55 Freaking ATLZEDIAN
I really fell to understand you, you complain because according to you Repiah Banda was sworn in too quickly now your are complaining because cabinet has not been appointed too quickly.
Your role as a citizen ends up at voting, you have nothing to do with swearing in or the appointment of cabinet. In any case the old cabinet is still functionining and there is no vacancy.
Why abash Mpombo what wrong has he done to you………..
There is confusion at State House. All staff who were working for LPM are still there and the RB has gone with his! Secretary to Cabinet is quite abt the whole issue!
Bottom line, PF stands for Prolific F00ls! What do you expect from them?
#37 & 38 your RB is still in deep sleep, thats why Mwanamwambwa decided to talk nosense.
you know what, ba RB {NS}did promise a lot of vote riggers ministrial jobs. It has now back fired on him.Let him hang himself,coz this time these people are on his round neck.Ka chiluba and the group we shall see.
#57 Romour monger. Just wait.patience please
4
This is an itreasting site but jokers like number 4 just spoil it. Serious issues are a joke to them….
Any minister can be given the instruments of power whenever a head of state travel out of the country you dont necessarily need to have a veep. When Mwanawasa was involved in a car accident as VEEP chiluba used to interchange the instruments of power between defence minister and Foreign affairs minister.
Wow, people are uptight.
#59 you are right I have also thought that about Spectator he really thinks his the most smart guy on this blog. Spectator waya sana.
Nominated MP
1. RB
2. Mulongoti
Please who are the others
King Cobra, I think your contributions are really interesting, bring ’em on, bro! After all I’m bored to death with Zambian political drama.
“He also said Minister of Defence George Mpombo would act as leader of Government business in the House irrespective of the vacant position of Vice-President in the executive.”
Does the Republican Constitution allow him to do that?
We simply need a Vice President as soon as possible even if the Ministers and their deputies have to keep their positions.
The life of Parliament is Five years. It does not matter whether the appoiting authority has died. Zambia is like Company if the CEO is dead the other directors and managers will continue with their work. PF normally has a problem in interpreting laws. Even the learnt Given, Guyscot can not understand legal issues. The Cabinet was not dissolved hence the continuation of ministers. The only vacant position is that of VP which should be filled ASAP.No wonder pact can not work UPND understand laws our freinds PF likes shortcuts.
# 9,10,11,14,17,19,31 did u know…There are more chickens than people in the world.
r.b is buying time.
If the speaker in England does not speak and just listens, is he then called the listener of the National Assembly or House of Commons. Whatever the case Old Mwanamwambwa should just shut up and listen when Sky Goat is speaking. In this instance i submit that he errored in fact and in law. Why should Mpombo continue as leader of Government Business in the house? In the event that RB is not around or is sleeping, what happens? Does someone act as Veep and subsequently as president? Our constitution sucks. Please legal minds, educate us on this?
As for King Cobra, whose penis do you want to buy? Try Tetamashimba’s he has no use for it
It’s true all those nominated mp’s shouldn’t be there, this is a new gornverment.A bena mulongoti and group should all go zwaaaaa utumimbulu.
LT please you should sensor some of these comments which does not relate to topic of discussion. We are mature enough we do not need such comments.
hie guys just close your mouth , who does not know that mwanawambwa is stone mmd .the 26 pf , mp are protected by the samew speaker
so just wait for 2011 which is just 32 mo nths from today
Beautiful one i want to have sex with you
#74…they didn’t know coz they still thought RB is Vice presdo!
Our constitution does not force the president to appoint a cabinet there and then.
he can take his or her time..
Our eyes are always the same size from birth, but our nose and ears never stop growing
#59.. VIVA YOU..LETS HAVE SOME SOBER ANALYSIS. DOES IT MEAN THAT ALL LEGISLATURE AND OTHER GOVERNMENT INSTRUMENTS, AGREEMENTS ETC SIGNED BY LPM (AS PRESIDENT) BECOME NULL AND VOID DUE TO THE DEATH OF LPM (LATE PRESIDENT)….
what is taking Banda too long to announce the vp?
confusion at this time wont do just wake up from slumber this is real world.
Some lions mate over 50 times a day.
Sata and Scot are still in a state of confusion after the loss. all ministries have ministers. which cabinate are they looking for other than the one that is already there. Sata had already made a carbinate and now he is confused that the people he oppointed are not in carbinate forgeting that he lost the election and its still MMD ruling.
#86 me too!
minister of gender. can any one correct me if am wrong . i think she is also a nominated mp. this just shows that we don’t know our ministers even if i was given a year to mention them i would fail big time
#73, these PF Mps are nothing but blind followers of a mad man. They also behave like mad people. I do not know what he feeds them because they are a waste of tax payer’s money. They have never been constructive and for this reason alone, I think, Zambians have not benefitted from Multiparty democracy. It is demagogue all the time in parliament and we do not get any constructive debates because the MPs are so ignorant that one wonders why we even elect them. Even our chiefs can do better than most of these PF Mps.
What if RB wants to mantain the cabinet all u guys who rushing him wat u going to say.
#86, I must be a lion by now!
If RB was really mentally ready 2 lead this country,we would’nt be in this Crisis,Him going in2 hiding,just 2 appoint cabinet,it clearly goes 2 show how much this Train called Head of State hit him so hard,he still can’t believe his the President,He better start 2 show tht his really on top of things,If he had a well established team behind him like MC and HH had,it would’nt be hard 2 assemble cabinet,coz they would have been there in there Ranks,waiting,instead of the scenario were who ever shouts the loudest against the opposition are inline 2 get the Jobs,I can see thru Tetamashimba Teeth,when he speaks tht he desparately wants 2 be a Full Cabinet Minister..we are watchin’ on the sideline
#34 most people on this blog do very well understand the difference between an incubent and the President. What people want is for RB to show that he has a brain to pick his own team. RB my not understand the reason behind levy pickng the Mulongotis. It may have been to increase the number of Bembas in Paliament so as to give balance on regional representation in Govt. It may have been on consideration of family or friendships e.t.c. Its very, very apparent that RB doesn’t like all members of LPM’s team. After all they say, one man’s meat is another man’s poison.
Let RB not hide behind the thin veil of continuity. We want fresh ideas.
There is nothing wrong with Anonymous and King Cobra’s comments. Once in a while we need to smile after putting in so many hours for our bosses to get hefy salaries. Its enough that we are going through many problems and it will not do be angry all the time. Laughter is a medicine after all. Go Anonymous Go King Cobra. I will join you later…
R.B must stop irritating us, announce your new cabinet and give us a break ata
wansekesha..King Ko boyi mwe..no wonder some people ( U know whom I’m talking about here) have such a big nose and ears like njovu! ha ha haaa. Ala first ndaleko panono I’m bored.
#89. YOU ARE DULL..
CAN SOME ONE TELL BA RB TO APPOINT A NEW CABINATE THE WAITING IS KILLING A LOT OF PEPO AND IT CAN COZ CONFUSION
Ba LT this topic is boring can you bring up something more serious.
It must be tough if there is only one lioness in the pride
76
OKAY 76 THAT IS VERY FUNNY!!!!!!!Wanisekesa
I hope Banda is taking time to reshuffle his cabinet so that he can give us a credible team, not “I therefore appoint Chiluba as special envoy to the great lake regions”; I also appoint honourable Mpombo as Vice President, not that nonsense
BA 91 NIMWE BA CHIPATA TREE WHY ARE U SUPPORTING RB BLINDLY
I am so scared that our country is now going to dogs. Pipo in the cabinent are trully showing that they have now stopped thinking. How can you run parliament/cabinent if a number of 29 pipo have refused to seat. [POWER HUNGERY CABINENT]
There is no democracy in that place. Change baneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
King cobra do you also know that every second someone is having sex around the world.
# 38 Consult your Social Studies Teacher , its 8 nominated members not 10.
# 61 If RB has gone with his Staff to State House, it does not entell the State House Staff Should Resign or Vacate the Offices,NO, these are Civil Servants and can only move when official changes are made.The officers who hve moved with RB , by their appointments are suppose to work in the Office of the Vice President and not President, unless RB still thinks hes VP,but hes free to appoint them, mind you these jobs goes with loyalty.
It doesn’t mean that when a President dies, all the appointments he made become null and void, Mr Guy Scott. If it were the case, then all constitutional office holders would have ceased to operate – imagine no Chief Justice, IG, Auditor General, Bank Governor etc.
Just prepare to democratise your party through elections at a convention – Poor Finishers!!!
KING COBRA,
How many did you know bubble gums did u buy?
Dear bloggers,i hear Inonge Lewanika, Kabinda Pande and Bwalya Chiti are vying for the veep seat. Can someone elighten me pliz????
i just wonder who appoints cabinet? i think that comment from the speaker is overstepping his mark
Dear bloggers,i hear Inonge Lewanika, Kabinda Pande and Bwalya Chiti are vying for the veep seat. Can someone enlighten me pliz????
#108,
You r rt.moreover it’s the MMD who won the election and RB was party of gav’t ,so no need to rush coz he knows their capabilities.We would have been surprised if SATA or HH took this long to appoint his cabinet
If only we knew wat it means to VPTE WISELY. None of this would have happened. Wake Zambians
people, I maybe wrong, the elections were for presidency and not parliament. I don’t think RB can be forced to change cabinet if he does not want, after all LPM swore in all ministers. If MMD was smart, they must appoint their candidate for 2011 as Veep, then people will know him and he can sale himself to the Zambians like they do it in Botswana.
Baby C,
I HAVE HEARD OF BWALYA CHITI BUT NOT THE OTHERS,INFACT RUMUOR IS THAT LPM(MHSRIP) WAS TO REPLCE RB WITH CHITI HAD HE MADE THE TRIP BACK HOME.
What was the point of having elections, if nothing changes. Poor people always know how to waste money and time!!!
Why do you want a new cabinet?
Ba kalamba mu Bwato, just convice HH to be yo co Captain.
Two hands paddle faster
KINGCOBRA what kind of weed are you smoking in Lithuania?
Trying moving to North Korea where Commrade Kim Jung IL and his Junta can educate you with more philosophy of how to be a perfect Imbecile in Society.
RB why are you quiet on the issue of new cabinet? Pipo voted for continuity of national issues, not for to sleet forever at plot 1, Wake and voice out, more over you were using helicpters and jet to campaing not walking.
#117. THE PESIDENTIAL BYE – ELECTIONS WERE FOR REPALCING THE LATE PRESIDENT. DONT GET EXCITED… WATCH YOUR STEP…
Y WE NEED A NEW CABINET IS FOR VARIOUS REASONS, WE NEED CHANGE, MEALIE MEAL PRICE IS SHOOTING, FERTILISER PRICE NOT YET DROP, RAOD WORK PUSHED TO 2030. COME ON RB KEEP YO CAMPAING PROMISES
BY THE WAY RB, CONGRATES WE HEAD THANDIWE IS EXPECTING ANY TIME. YOU CAN NOW AFFORD A NEW SET OF TWINS.
LT ati bwa? Ikani kaili blog yanga naneo nilabileko shuwa
#123. DID RB PROMISE A NEW CABINET????
Ladies and gentlemen; we all know how urgent it is to have cabinet in place like yesterday. We folloed the constitution to have elections within 90 days because of the urgency to have a stable government after the death of LPM such that we didnt even allow updating the voters register thus denying many the orportunity to participate in the elections. It is certainly very un healthy to have so much time pass after the elections without the leader comming out with important pronouncements such as cabinet. What RB must know is that he is creating uncertainty not only for MMD but the whole nation and he will be to blame should anything wrong happens. Why allow speculations?
TILYENGI kAUNDA AS VICE PRESIDENT AWE
BABY C AND #116
The practice in MMD has been the he who delivers an entire province takes the VIP position so in this case he is suppose to come from western, N/western or central. Bwalya Chiti was promised the VIP position on condition that he delivers northern Province which he failed despite campagning hard. So the VIP will be Kabinga Pande we are just waiting for the anouncement. there are alot of people qualified for this position from all provinces but only one can be at any given time. so this criteria of delivering a province separates these brilliant men to arrive at one.
Hear this dream – lapengwa, ino cisi tucitebuti? Ati ba VP ni ba VJ na ba Finance in ba FTJ. Elo pa local government ati ni Nawakwi. Manje pa za kani ndi NM.
no. 115 man it does not help when the man is just quiet!!!
Also note that no two people can ever be identical…RB and LPM are two different characters and as such RB will need to form his own cabinet lest he puts the blame on the cabinet formed by LPM should he fail. Continuing with programmes does not necessarily need same people….who know the new bromm might even come and sweep better in continuing with the the so called programmes…..By the way does this imply RB can not make ammendments to programmes? he has the right to…does he have to continue even with rubish programmes…come guys let us think big and childish…RB must com out of the shell and behave himself no more LPM it is you now..
this is the very reason why all right thinking Zambiana should not associate themselves with PF. a simple matter that even a grade 7 pupil can understand makes them behave silly. the cabinet and parliament were not dissolved so how to they expect any body to automatically loose their appointment? those appointments stand untill the New President revokes them. that is why even after the president died they were still valid infact the acting president had no power to disappoint anybody on his own unless cabinet decided. Indeed you can see where this country would go if it went in the hands of such ignorant chaps!!!
I feel sorry for zambia under the leadership of MMD. Its so sad it hurts
Come on felo zambians give this a break/
# 129, you are correct though Walusiku Lisulo is also lined up for Veep that’s why RB wanted to go to Western Province and consult the Litunga. Actually Magande has been shortlisted as the next Veep of the World Bank so he’s calling it quits with Zambian Politics. So the Northern & Luapula Chaps who had been promised have to deliver in the next elections.
#133 BRAVO YOU.. SAD THING IS YOU CAN NEVER EDUCATE PF CADRES.YOU CANT REASON WITH THEM. TYPICAL KAPONYA MENTALITY. GREET A KAPONYA ATI’ MULI SHANI?’ ANSWER ‘ AWEEE.. NDIFWE BWINO’. CHECK..
Bwezani uletasha, a lot helped during the campaing including FTJ. Tasha we shiwa
I don’t think 38% of pipo that voted for sata are kaponyas. Plse let your contributions be factual and objective
Ka 106 don’t bing your immoral thought on this site. If you can’t make a meanful contribution just go the brothel and satisfy your immorality. LET MEN and women who are objective contribute.OK.
just let them put kakubo, theyll see what fire looks like
No 34 the president is the incumbant and the presidency is an office.
True the appointing authority is no more and they should no longer hold those offices unless the appointments were ratified by parliament.
WHAT SAYEST THOU LEGAL MINDS?
I believe no two people are identical and certainly not the late LPM and RBB.
Bwana RBB come out of your cocoon and steer the nation as is expected of you.Snails pace is certainly not good for our nation.
News Flash: RB will hold a Press Conference at State house were hes expected to announce the new Cabinet on 30th October 2009.
Mwanamwambwa good looking,u should have stood for presido.
Our Speaker is MMD. Remember how he frustrated the impeachment of Chiluba during the 3rd Term nonsense. He refused to convene parliament for fear Chiluba was going to be kicked out. He will always twist the consititution to protect himself and mmd.
PF is a party without direction.It is too much Ulunyenye.
How I wish LPM was still alive.He Really knew how to treat them.
Guys i totally agree with u ## 94, 121, 127 You see we have a president who came by accident. Its simple the guy does not even know what to do. In case he is not aware, which i believe he is aware, Mwanawasa wanted to come and appoint a new cabinet before he fell sick. A number of ministers were going to be axed. They have merely survived because the man is late. But this RB thinks that everyone is performing well no!!! This guy needs to look at key ministries such as Energy, Agriculture and others and make drastic changes if this country has to move. Who really is in control of this country??? RB no!!!!
mu 2011 we are voting for the biggest opposition party in the country, The Post. Viva Mmembe……………………….Plus no lawyer nomba, ikaba fye government of laws. Teta, Mpombo, Mulongoti, watch out
#147
walasa. oli wamano
It is surprising that most people are calling for Rb to appoint a cabinet.What he needs to do is appoint a Veep.There is already a cabinet in place and that is not his priority.The problem is people are used to “heads must roll” when a new governemtn or leader comes into power.This is a different scenario my friends.RB has worked with this cabinet under LPM and perhaps he does not see the need or urgency to change it.Regarding the nominated MPs.They were nominated by the office of the President and not LPM as an individual.Again, it is RBs discretion whether to fire them or let them stay.The Speaker is out of line to see it moral for two ministers to rep. one ministry.
Well the PF MPs are really the opposition, it does not matter what it is, they will oppose, that is one side, on the other hand I think there is a clear mis understanding of the law, I want to believe that when LPM was still in a stable condition, when RB was acting President, George was running matters in the house the time the salaries passed three readings in a record one day, so what has changed now? Bane let us not transfer streetism to parliament and adulterate the privileges therein.
Nominated Mps
1 Mulongoti
2 Bwezani kumuzi Banda
3 Daniel Munkombwe
4 Ben Kapita
5 Cecil Homes
6 Mundia Sikatana
7 Venon Mwaanga
8 Minister of Genger
Does anyone know whats happening to RB? His silence is deafening; is he well??? Its almost as if the country is on auto-pilot; all we hear is that he has cancelled this trip and that appoitment and that meeting. Is all way in nyama soyaland???????
# 153
Ba anonymous tekanyeni.Mwayamba bu Kachepa.
I THINK THE SPEAKER HAS GOT IT ALL WRONG AGAIN ,ITS PIPO LIKE HIM ,DAN KALALE etc THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED .THERE HAVE BEEN OCCUPING POSITIONS FOR TOO LONG SUCH THAT THEIR USEFUNESS IS LONG GONE HENCE NOT ONLY MISLEADING THEMSELVES BUT THE ZAMBIAN NATION AT LARGE.
GOD IS FAITHFUL, OUR PRAYERS ARE NOT IN VEIN, ONE DAY WE SHALL COME OUT OF THIS SLAVERY PUT UP BY THE MMD !
This is the part were you lough out aloud and say thank God PF didnt form govt.
The position is not tied to the person but function. This being a bye election means that the person who takes over is not treated like a new cabinet. it can only change once he does reshuffles which we are awaiting …
And head of govt can be anyone… though its usaully held by the VP
BA COBRA YOU NEED TO YAVE YOUR MIND RENEWED.HONESTLY WHY WASTE YOUR TIME MAKING SUCH STATEMENTS.PLESE STICK TO THE POINT OR KEEP QUITE.THE ISSUE AT HAND IS CRITICAL,OUR CONSTITUTION ONCE AGAIN HAS BEEN EXPOSED.
BUT THE QUESTION IS`WHOSE INTEREST DO NOMINATED MPS SAVE’ AN ANSWER TO THIS PUZZLE WILL DRIVE US FOWARD, IS IT THE OFFICE OR THE PERSON HOLDINDING THE OFFICE
#150 KCC, The reason people have a “heads must roll” mentality is because the current crop of ministers in ineffectual and incompetent. If its broken, then you try to fix it. Now, you have a good point that RB may be comfortable and satisfied with the current line up of ministers and sees no need to replace them. RB should not base his decision to keep them on familiarity. That decision should be based on the ministers’ track record of service and management of their respective ministries.
#158 Ici Shinka, you need to differentiate between personal familiarity and work-related familiarity.RB probably knows who has performed and who has not.I am taking a wild guess that he probably doesn’t see that as a priority because as far as he is concerned, everybody has performed according to RBs shallow knowledge and expectation.You and I are simply saying the same thing in a different way.You have good understanding of the issues at hand.Adios amigo
#159 KCC, Indeed, it appears RBs knowledge and expectations are shallow. Well, as far as Cabinet Ministers go.
Dear ALL;
Office of the President is an institution, and not an individual who comes and goes. Does PF have competent legal advisers? Tax payers need value for money; sitting allowances cum walking out allowances!
I think given the mess that the late Mwanawasa left. PFs questions are somewhat valid.
#161 Caine Mweemba, I hope they will not be paid the allowance for walking out. Since it is sitting allowance.Tax payer’s money wasted!
Tax Payer’s money is wasted whether they are seated or marching out. Their presence is of no real consequence to us.
Even the Catholic Bishops know that the elections were rigged. Shame on you MMD and the entire supporters. Open your eyes you blind followers.
i know this is not the topic at hand . Can somebody update the state house website. THERE IS STILL THE PHOTO OF LPM AS PRESIDENT.
Pleez leave Nyama Soya alone. He knows what he is doing. Mufuna apange ma blunder by appointing pipo lyk Vernon Dribbler Mwanga? Awee sure!
RB IS IN A DILEMMA AS VJ IS DEMANDING A MINISTERIAL POST AFTER HELPING HIM RIG THOSE ELECTIONS BUT IS SCARED OF WHAT PPL WILL THINJ=K OF HIS DECISION THATS WHAT THEY SAY SCRATCH MY BACK AND WILL SRATCH YOURS
PF people and supporters are just bad losers. Who told Sata it is his god ordained right to rule Zambia? He was rejected in Eastern, Southern, Western and North-western Provinces. Let Rupiah and his people govern.