PARLIAMENT has scrapped the responsibility allowance for constitutional office holders and drastically reduced the special and utility allowances in the revised emolument bills that were approved yesterday.
This was when the House passed the three amended emolument bills that seek to increase salaries and allowances for the president, ministers, deputy ministers, members of Parliament and other constitutional office holders.
The amended bills, which were subjected to a vote electronically, saw a significant reduction of the utility allowance while the salary still stood at 15 per cent increment.
The three bills, which had earlier passed through the House, were sent back after President Banda wrote a letter to the Speaker on November 7, asking Parliament to reconsider the bills, as they were costly to the Government in their old form.
Presenting the amended bills, Vice-President George Kunda said the treasury had insufficient funds to implement the earlier proposed allowances, hence the need to amend the bills.
Mr Kunda said the Government had spent huge sums of money to conduct the October 30 presidential election and expenses towards the State funeral of late president Mwanawasa.
According to the amended Presidential Emolument Bill number 18 of 2008, the President’s special annual allowance of K157,210,523 had been reduced to K59,194,734 while the annual responsibility allowance of K150 million was scrapped.
The salary of the president has been increased by 15 per cent and would now annually be pegged at K164, 120, 016.
The vice-president’s annual salary would be K99,227,544 while the special allowance had been reduced to K33, 886,567 from K 94, 119, 870. The responsibility allowance of K90 million has been scrapped and the utility allowance was now K26, 680,000 from K66,400,000.
The deputy speaker, Cabinet minister, the chief whip, leaders of opposition would get an annual salary of K75, 117, 124, special allowance of K26, 382, 673 instead of K64, 412, 182. The utility allowance for the same category of officers is now K26, 680,000 from K66, 400,000.
Back benchers would get an annual salary of K70,161,239, special allowance at K19, 165,615 instead of K66 million. The utility allowance annually was pegged at K26, 680,000 instead of K66, 400,000.
Deputy ministers would get an annual salary increment of K70, 953,196, the special allowance of K24, 107,904 instead of K61, 448, 092 and utility allowance of K26, 680,000 other than earlier proposed K66, 400,000.
The constitutional office amendment Bill now states that the secretary to the Cabinet would get an annual salary increment of K159, 340, 959 and a responsibility allowance of K48, 300,000 annually instead of K80 million.
The Attorney General would get annual salary increment of K135, 485,950 and responsibility allowance of K41, 400,000 annually instead K80 million.
And the Speaker of the National Assembly told the House the three bills were passed with more than two thirds of the majority votes which was done electronically.
[Times of Zambia]
Whether they ve reduced or not the thing is , their salaries has been hiked period. i saw this coming just after the elections.
CHECK OUT THE POST . STILL HEAVY FACED BWEZANI WANTS TO INCREASE THE SALARIES
Jesus save our country.
What explanation GOVT would give for worker who wants salary increase. the are the ones getting more money than a poor work who put in everythings. for the just to speak few broken english words to the voter and dance RB. SHAME
No wonder Mpombo was kneeling for Levy. Am sure you all know wat “MPOMBO” means in nyanja.
We are a joke. Thats y some of us cant stand living in a country where politicians do as they pls with no regard to the people who put them in office. I know this happens in almost all countries but in our country its just 2 much. Cant we for once hear positive things? May God judge you.
Hey guys bola panshi, tekanyeni. We all know that our politicians get low salaries but the great equaliser was the allowances and it is the allownaces that all these bootlickers fight to get. Red through these numbers and stop being blinded by the myopic POST. This is actually a good saving for our tax money. RB allownaces have been slashed by 250 million and what is 15% of his salary compared to this. I hate RB, but I think this move is encouraging. READ READ READ and THINK THROUGH THINK THROUGH before you toll the POst agenda here
come on guys these salaries are fair. these pipo also have children to feed and families to take care of.
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINING GUYS. At least they will afford a bag of meally meal. How about us ordinary Zedians?
#1-6, have you read this articles, or are you guys today just tired of typing number one and just decided to blog based on the POST rumour. Do the maths guys. This is not as bad as made to believe
I would love to work as a an MP, Vice P and as a constitution office holder mwee. Before you even perform such as the likes of Kapwepwe, Situmbeko, VJ and RB in his new job you are in for a salary increment. This is pure daylight robbery. These guys have a lot of allowance not veen known by the larger public, yet they go to give themselves, RESPOSIBILITY ALLOWANCES, my foot responsible for what? An ailing economy, massive unemployment, poor pro-aids policies. Thank God even them are afflicted by AIDS unlike poverty afflicting some us. VJ for death.
This is just rhetoric, what we are interested in is knowing if these chaps get more per year after the new bill or they get less.
So this is the promise Mr Banda made during campaign, Mr Banda had promised Zambians that he will no increase salaries for ministers during his campaigns but mr Banda don’t think that God is not seeing you and he will punish you together with your fellows.
Rb and his cabinet are all a bunch of crooks and they have nothing to offer Zambia.This guy promised fake things which he will never honour.Just after wining the election he hikes his salary and those of his crooked cabinet what more do we expect?He fired mangade so that he can have a puppet as a finace minister so that he can enrich himself and his little wife
Rb and his cabinet are all a bunch of crooks and they have nothing to offer Zambia.This guy promised fake things which he will never honour.Just after wining the election he hikes his salary and those of his crooked cabinet what more do we expect?He fired mangade so that he can have a puppet as a finance Minister so that they can enrich themselves
ma plunderers got rid of Magande from the financies so that ba dye state funds. What a shame. Wonder what Levy would say
we now see bamudala your cleaverness. so you intertained MMD increzzing ubunga. with our little salaries?
To be fare guys if you are getting K70million a year in the private sector and you are still young start thinking of going to school while you still can.the average salary for a junior executive these days is around K185million a year and that is without allowances. infact in most parastatals in Zambia the salary of a graduate engineer strait from school is about K109 million a year only that he doesnt have so much allowances. so those big guys complaining in the newspapers we must ask them how much they get.Lets just go to school if we can guys or else we will just be complaining and going nowhere.
Well done guys.This is fair enough.
As for you fellow bloggers dont believe everything u read in the Post Newspaper.Viva RB
#11 You are right, and what is this special and utility allowances and how does one earn it. I think as a nation we need to audit to the last ngwee theses guys get and they should account for it. We should not be labelling things with fancy and meaningless names. This is how blue collar criminals operate and steal from the masses. And this MMD is full of them
we knew salaries would increase immediately after elections, withing 3 weeks of “wining” the election we can prove this. simple maths increase more and reduce less resulting in a positive. only an uneducated chap can not read this.
Have you seen VJ’s salary? The chap will be getting over K100m per month, for what when he is a crook. Akhulu Mpuno is returning a favour at our expense, makes me sick
i would like to agree with #7 though i have something telling me it does not sound right for these guys to reduce their allowances and vote unanimously.
RECYCLED POLITICIANS
RB ex-UNIP now MMD
VJ ex UNIP, MMD (mind u he retired) and now again MMD
Teta ex UPND now MMD
Situmbeko pro MMD nothing will change
Munkombwe ex UNIP and UPND now MMD
And many more. With this one will be naive to think that things will change, we are in for the same old wine in new bottles. Rb does not want to suffer again or leave at the farm. Rural life is hard and he is now going to avoid it at all costs by ukusungapo thru hefty salaries and allowances. Mark my words. “Teti mbwekele kubuchushi ubo namwene” he must be saying.
Let them show us thier first payslips,we want to see the reductions, thats when we shall believe N.S., tired of being blind folded bane. We also want the salary increaments across the board.
Increase UNZA CBU ALLOWANCES AND GIVE MORE BASURIES TO THE NEW MULUNGUSHI.VERNON MWAANGA HAS NO HEART FOR ZAMBIAN HE JUST WANT TO PLEASE HIMSELF…… YOU CANT EAT YOUR CAKE AND HAVE IT .IN ZAMBIA YOU CAN EAT YOUR CAKE AND HAVE A DOZEN MORE
Still at tax free the cats will get even fatter
What about the rest of civil servants and other public service workers etc? The cake is big enough, lets learn to share.
MA RUBBISH can they tell everybody to increase their employees salaries full stop.Mealie meal prices wont go down because these guys will afford to buy with their increments.Please GOD help us we have a banch of Kawalalas in the Cabinet.GOD GOD GOD HELP US PLEASE.
Again the game of tricks… the kafupi style has started… Awe twachula pa Zed mwebantu… #12 you are right… We must look at wheather the government funds have been relieved of pressure or more has been asked in total… Men something got to be done… I will join the muslims soon…
#19 do you eat on the same table with RB, why are you supporting this when it is unjustified, look at the number of people suffering in ZED, the price of mealie meal and commodities and you can even come out in open to congratulate RB and his crooks. shame on you and i would also like to know were you live. shame on you once again.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE 30TH OCTOBER ELECTIONS COST ALOT OF MONEY BUT PLZ DONT BRING IN THE EXPENSES OF THE LATE PRESIDENT..HAVE SOME RESPECT AND STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH U PAID TO BARRY THE MAN.. FOR CRYING OUT LOUT HAVE SOME DIGNITY ATA!!1
No. 8 chachine uli mpombo I think you are one of the dealers. women and children are suffering for them to have just a single meal. i feel pity When I see women with their babies on their back pounding stones just to earn hv a meal on their table think twice. God will punish us bcoz his children are crying every day .
LT. thanks for pushing my comments.
Have you noticed the harmonius way MPs agree when it comes to their outrages salaries. No insults, no name calling, no wild punches, its all smiles, love and unity. When discussing their allowances, you wouldnt know who is MMD, UPND, Independent, even the usually loud mouthed, violet PF members become timid and tame.
You wouldnt know there is Kambili, Mumbi Phiri or Guy Scot in the house. no walk outs, shame on you all.
RB has done us proud, lower allowances and higher salaries. It’s a puzzle but only those who read will know.
Ala twachula aka bunga. Naka Pamela naka dula meanwhile ba koswe bala kwata increment
Only hope that they have no other hidden allowances as we are being made to believe!!!
Hope they same thought they had to increase their salaries,will be applied when teachers and other civil servants request for an increament.
MPs increaments = higher taxes for ordinary Zambians. Next the goverment will ask you to tighten your belts even further.
I personally think these salaries are ok. They should now look at the car loans they give themselves at near zero interest. Most of these chaps live beyond their means and provide a bad example to the young generation. I met Peter Daka last weekend driving a Range Rover Vogue – for a public figure that’s criminal. Even the donors that give us money for development don’t drive such vehicles – what vanity!
Another thing we should remember is that there is no free money. So this scenarion that when one gets a pay rise then we talk of women breaking stones and street kids etc, is wrong. KK taught us that education and hard work are the key to success, so I only pity the hard workers. Those who wasted their chance in life should work hard to regain it, and not cry for more money in the pocket – from where…
#32 Walasa. We lost a man enough… And therefore deserved all the best… Not Chi VJ, Toad Face, Teta, nga ni kachiluba tukakapelefye kaponya funeral, or be buried by prisoners. There is no honor whatsoever for Kafupi…
ma labbishi
Reading we can,but have you seen the actual salaries don’t just approve of something you have not seen, are you partakers of this cake they are about to share? Zambians please wake up.
If it was to discuss something as important as tarring the Lukulu-Kaoma rd or building of the Mongu-Kalobo road, the MPs Could have argued endlessly even on minute things as the nails to be used, then it could have been “a walk out” from the uncouth PF members. Thats why such important issues never get anttend to in our dishonouraable Parliament. We need to crop all these lazy MPs from Parly come 2011.
15% increment is OK.
African politics! ama politicians busy enriching themselves, what about the masses who voted for your behinds imwe ba kwindi? thousands are going hungry while you chaps fatten yo pockets and sleep in offices..SIS!!!!!!!!
why do our sale fish leaders claim zambia a christian nation, when pipo of this nation are busy praying for peace, when Bwezani is doing his increment with his ministers. If Levy was there, NAMICHENJESHAKO FYE.
IN THE POST WE’VE BEEN TOLD ITS AN INCREAMENT,LT US SAYING REDUCTION WHICH IS WHICH bane?
The criminals are trying to blndfold the Zambians, just wait and see. You are yet to see the how wise easterns are.
How about the Zamtel workers, were they considered as well?
they have not started working yet and they’re increasing their salaries. Are they going to work sure?
#48 Read the parliament report, dont rely on the POST.If a minister can not Drive a Range , then who will?
This simply means that the intergrity of zambians in general will never be defended.People that are actively involved in creating the wealth of this nation can not even get anything near to the prezdos annual salary as their retirement package.The MMD is now a dynasty and a VINCOR not simple to break.THEIR SECRET CODE is CORRUPT,RECYCLE and RULE….”It take a revolutin sometimes to mend a solution.Thats my conclsion”.
Be reasonable and fair; the public service workers got the exact same increment of 15% and that is what was used as a benchmark. RB never lied to anyone, he said he would send the pre election increments back to Parliament for review. Let us not condemn everything done just because we hate RB and MMD so much.
The post is just against RB whether he does something right or wrong, anyhow let us see why this is a cheaper option for the country. The President has two options, to approve this bill and make it law or dissolve parliament and call for a new general election, because he cannot refer a bill back to parliament more than two times without signing it. So it is up to us to understand this and these are the questions we should be asking before the election for politicians to explian or simply read the constitution, it is a public document. Even if Sata or HH won, unless the bill was withdrawn by a motion in parliament, these are the same options they would have had.
Have you seen M’membe’s double story mansion. Bet you would love to catch a ride in his custom Hummer vehicle. M’membe can even afford to entertain foreign western diplomats at his house. Pots sometimes call kettles Black.
We are even lucky that the MPs revised the emoluments downwards, if the opposition had worn, out of spite the MMD MPs would have refused to vote for a revised (downwards of course) bill.
These salaries are just a smear, can anyone tell me that the president can survive on K8m per month? Where do these pipo get extra mony to live in luxury?
Rducing, slashing and then + 15%! What paradox!
#1 baby C I agree with you, at the end of the day someon’s salary and allowances has been increased at an expense of starving villagers….And baby C, thanks for breaking that childishness of writing number 1………
I meant vice president K8m per month?
We shall seize the zambian parliament vesel loaded with money on the high seas soon
They are just cheating, aba bashetani. It’s only a jab in our flesh so we can stop challenging them about the election aftermath.
thei is one of the 90 day promise. One for me non for you!!!!
this is one of the 90 day promise. One for me non for you!!!!
ARE THE EMOLUMENTS ‘BEFORE TAX’ or ‘AFTER TAX’ …… EDUCATE US MORE.
#19 so u believe wateva Times of Zambia, ZNBC and Zambia daily mail report. mwilachita kwati tamu mona. u r embarasin us
LT where is my comment?
I think those of us condeming a 15% salary increament including the Post are just being petty or jealousy. Why do you want your leaders to be driving cristal light corrolas and get mistaken for a taxi driver. i think lets be fair all govnt workers got a 15% increament and whats wrong with a parliamentarian getting a similar increament. if you are too bothered i think the best is to contest an election and be an MP if you can after all you are allowed to do so and ther is nothing that can stop you other than your ability to articulate issues and convince your voters.
What the hell is ‘responsibility allowance?.Are they there to serve or to be served?.Crazy bold heads,they reap where they do not sow.God Help Us!
#66 Before tax, those are gross values or before tax if you like
I saw this coming,a hold on to this bill was just a political gimmick.These characters have no heart for a poor Zambian.They are just in power to push for their selfish interests and greedy.Retirees have been sleeping in the cold from far places for years,but they havent gotten their benefits todate.But these characters wil get their huge gratuities as a result of these increaments so fast,before 2011. As a regular caller of skY fm radio and Unza radio.I wil continue to condemn this inhuman move,i wil strongly add my voice to oppose this.Infact i have already started doing that,i called both radio stations and condemned this. There are more problems they should have attended to first. Global finacial crisis,low copper prices which will affect the economy,load sheding,high mealie meal prices,etc.I wil continue to voice out for the poor. These are the people with degrees you wanted to rule us. My heart bleeds.
There is a lot of semi-illiterates on this blog.That 15% is not just the salaries you are seeing.These ministers sit on board,get subsistence,incidental allowances and per diem.Besides,at the end of their term,they will get something like K2++ billion.Mind you,there’s also the parliamentary benefits like,highly subsidised car loans,beers and food at assembly motel and parliament hotel.Don’t look at the 15% as a figure but the morality of the whole exercise especially in the face of appalling poverty,high unemployment,no drugs in hospitals,the list is endless.Basakala nyongo.Thats why captain Solo had suggested a firing squad,Jerry Rawlings did it to president Akuffo of Ghana.
These pipo don’t pay for electricity,water,rent,t.v,fuel and they get free mealie meal.What are you telling us,can you compare these crooks to govt worker who pay for all the above in their small salaries ,think before you comment #69.
God help this country
LT where is my comment
RB needs to lose weight with these new salaries, he will explode, another state funeral. Awe tatukwete impiya. Put RB on a diet ASAP
# 19 why dont you try changing to WE? then you will be like one of us.
this is what Fr Bwalya has been talking about then he gets arrested. Viva Fr Bwalya
The concern is not about the Percentage increase. The Zambians’ concern is that how can the Mps and Government Ministers increase their Salaries at the expense of ordinary Zambians who can not afford three meals a day. Lecturers,Doctors, Civil Servants etc have been asking for salary increments but to no avail. Do these people think they are more special than the people they claim to serve?. The Government is just creating tension in the country and digging its own grave. RUPIAH WAKE UP.
Are those words or flies coming from your mouth. You have no brain! The one you are using now is rotten. How can you say those of us who are condeming a 15% salary increament are just being petty or jealousy when the majority of Zambians are starving.
The salaries seem fair whatever we call these people at the moment they are the ones managing our country you cant expect them to earn meaningless salaries does mmembe get the same as his deputy definetely not.Stop this jealousy this is how life is.
Bloggers
If i asked to stop whatever you are doing and come to Zambia and be a Minister, how much would you ask for as your net salary?? by the way this question is for only those with families to take care of.
Bloggers
If i asked you to stop whatever you are doing and come to Zambia and be a Minister, how much would you ask for as your net salary?? by the way this question is for only those with families to take care of.
To control people make them fear something/one eg S A T A and then do what they dont like!!
#84 I would ask for about $100,000. Do we have a deal?
You guys, no wonder Chiluba was stealing. RB’s salary is peanuts for a president that is plus/minus 30 000 rands per month. So I earn more than the president? And you expect the guy not to enrich himsef like Chiluba?
#69 Engines
Typical Zambian mentality!
Why do you see it right that a minister should ride in a very expensive car and not a simple car or even ride a bicycle?
Why do you seem to think that a minister should live a poshy life at all? Why do you think that those in government should be paid very big salaries at all? With this kind of mentality, Zambia will never develop at all? Never in a million years!!!
Ba LT stop blocking my comments.
#7 are useles characters….these crooks cant scrap allowances without getting a benefit elsewhere, so dont tell us to read through, you are the ones who are supposed to think through. shame on you useless chaps.
I repeat!!!!!!!!!!
Civil savages (or servants) you are sleepy. Did your increment amount into millions a month? Categorical NO. Look at your Union officials they are living like the MPs yet you the ones they represent continue to wallow in poverty. Wake up. Stand up for rights if at you have any since Toad Face is using the police and army to silence you.
malabishi, Thats why a always say that i dont have a pesdo.this country has gone to the Dogs.
Why are you guys comparing government with a private company?
The government is elected by the people to serve the people. If the people say they don’t have the money for the demanded salaries, then those in government who want higher salaries must leave and look for jobs in private companies PERIOD!!!!
Where does Zambia get this money to share like this? How much remains in the coffers for social, economical and other development plans? Wow, kwena kulila apo. How come the government must be responsible with one’s utilities? What is the salary for? Let the government pay for their shoes and ties too. Have they mentioned that they will be getting education allowances for their children? Iyo mwandi. What other allowances that we don’t of that are hidden. My God, VJ got paid for stealing those votes. How wonderful. Africa Twasebana. And you guys you want to persecute FTJ. Was there an increase for Maureen too. I believe she will get it.
LT tell me if you also part of these MPs and Union officials. If not, then why are you blocking the bureaucrat from expressing herself?
Greedy is the theme I can use. Why..Why do we always think of ourselves first. if you are in public office first put the people first. They first start by increasing their salaries instead of telling us much money the have allocated to Health,Education,Child care etc.. What a shame ! Nowonder , there is this silencing the people not to say anything like Fr. Bwalya. Anyway , I glad that no matter how much greed you be get or become you will never succeed, how many presidents have some people saved ? Are they rich now?
#86 Thats on the higher side though iam glad that you are not asking for peanants. lask week i was conducting interviews and one guy with a degree said he is a hard worker and all he wants is work and is not interested in monetary gains. i asked him 3 things in life that motivates him and #1 was work and money was not there. if you are an employer would you take such a man. i think he is the most dishonnest man i have ever met.
#69 iam a typical Zambian and a capitalist for that matter. A student in UK doing 20hrs a week of cleaning shelves gets aboput 6M a month zambian equivalent, fresh graduates in Z get around 5M. why do want a minister to stop his proffession for nothing.
#86 Thats on the higher side though iam glad that you are not asking for peanants. lask week i was conducting interviews and one guy with a degree said he is a hard worker and all he wants is work and is not interested in monetary gains. i asked him 3 things in life that motivates him and #1 was work and money was not there. if you are an employer would you take such a man. i think he is the most dishonnest man i have ever met.
#69 iam a typical Zambian and a capitalist for that matter. A student in UK doing 20hrs a week of cleaning shelves gets about 6M a month zambian equivalent, fresh graduates in Z get around 5M. why do want a minister to stop his proffession for nothing.
Hope the new salary increment will motivate our so called workers for the people. Surely everyone deserves a better PAY. Hope this GOOD WILL – will fall on all government employees.
Let them increase the Salaries even further so that by the time I am a minister I will not be criticized for voting for an increment.
Let the new MOFNP reduce the PAYE, that way we will not feel biter.
#98 thanks, what about $80,000 we can discuss… as long as I can do some side business in the weekends like selling the country to machoncholi
Whatever goes to Parly also goes to KK, FTJ and Maureen. She will even use part of it to pay alangizi following her referal letter given to her by SATA in Chipata.
NO. 7—Ithink you must use yo head to think!!! The post is not blinding any body here but stating the truth….
These guys should have started with mealie meal prices period.
Thats what happens when values are lost.
A ba bantu niba shetani bakalamba!!!! Why are they so mean. They do not desrve the allowances or wat eva? Why now? Whats wrong with their brains. Come on pipo, dont just say its okay, its okay. Did you know that a police officer who provides security for these pipo 24/7 gets K60,000 risk allowance? Where can this take a police officer who is exposed to all sorts of hazards and risks?
#69 do you know why councils are not performing well. its because the councilors( politicians running councils including the mayor) get too little and only people from bus stations with nothing to do get attracted to contest those elections. This is the very reason politicians at district level are mostly uneducated. if you want the mayor to be town planner by proffession then there must be a good package, otherwise who will be intersted. So for now a 15% increament on the mayor and his councilors Salary wont change anything and he will continue selling plots in Bars and tarvens.
Engines, of all the jokers here I like the way you think! Most of the Zedians here are petty, full of phds to handout and zero substance. This story to have made headline news in the Post today is a joke, when the big story is what happened in the mining sector yesterday.
Of course we have to give a bit of dignity to our politicans #88 because the simple reality is that in this country the State still controls the economy and as such they interact with the world. The overhang from the Kaunda administration is still with us and when we went the capitalism path instead of doing what the Russians did to create Zambian oligarchs, we sold the family silver to foreigns.
#45 Fine,i dn’t think you have choosen your mind to work in the right mood today worse still may be the misterious desease is still operating in you. take a walk and see how zambians are suffering. Y increaments when they haven’t performed yet to better the lives of the people.
Ba Unza your allowances will come after the next elections. How much does a Unza lecturer or Prof get? What about the doctors at the hospitals? What about those teachers? 15% of a teachers salary is how much? Will they pay utility allowance to civil servants too? Oh, they are servants, they get peanuts or left overs. Wow. Let us go and count Chiluba’s shoes now. Do you know how many pairs he can buy with such a hefty salary and allowance?
Me i knew that akulu mpono was going to approve the salaries, that why i didnt vote for MMD, Shame to whose who voted for Nyama Soya. God will Punish you Nyama Soya, God Please help our Country, We dont know were we are heading to.
Hmmmm imwe bantu that works out to be K6,000,000 per month for deputy ministers. Thats even less than the tax l pay which buys medicines for your children while you waste manhours on this website complaining like your life depends on it. Bola panshi
There is no way a reasonable cabinet can start work by increasing salaries for itself before settling down to reduce the mounting tension resulting from the disputed election results. These guys just want to ammass wealth at the expense of the poor Zambians. Our Pay As You Earn (PAYE)is too much for an average worker in Zambia who carries the yoke economic recovery. Plse u guys, u’ve imposed yourselves on us, ensure you reduce the tax orelse, MMD risks getting into oblivion like UNIP after 2011.
Twacula pafula. Abafisote nabo baletamba fye. Nangu nabo bali bapelako ‘katamulomo’?
Just by comparison, a Kenyan MP is on about $15,000 per month; a Minister on $20,000; and the President $30,000.
Kenya however proves that higher remuneration doesnt stop the theft of public funds but it does bring a level of dignity.
#56. fred Mmembe can spend his money any way wants because thats his money!Government has no money.All the finances they handle belong to its citizens.if as a government official you are dissatisfied with your pay,join the private sector!No one is compelled to be president or M.p.One voluteers pretty much.
The basic fact is that a large proportion of our politicians just wouldn’t cut in a world class company.Wasn’t it clair short-tony blairs foreign development minister-who said that some of our leaders wouldn’t win as city counsellors in europe,let alone get senior central government portifolios.
#8- I suppose you dont have a family and children to feed.Oh Plzz grow up…You dont just have to talk..so you believe what these people say…am ashamed to hear people who talk like that..
Every Zambian has some pipo they look after..if it is not themselves then its the family and extended,then you dare say these pipo have families to take care of,what about the people who are suffering coz wer ever they look there being pruned…Anyway i forgive you…
I bet you only get K600,000 AND YET YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH TO SAY THE SALARIES ARE FAIR.IF YOU BELIEVE THE ALLOWANCES ARE SCRAPPED YOU ARE IN FOR A SURPRISE OF YOUR LIFE.YOU’LL THINK THESE PIPO CAN VOTE FOR SUMTHING WHICH WIL DISSADVAGE THEM?
I notice that the sensitive subject of the economy vis a vis Dr Fundanga has been withdrawn.Why?
Even opposition MPs voted for this motion.
#84,engine block. That day i challenged you when you said,i was tribal.I challenged,i told you that am 1 of the few bembas who can speak fluent tonga.I like tonga and i might even marry a tonga.you didnt even respond.To day you are justifying this day light robbery by these hearless characters? You dont know how a common Zambian is suffering.These people have big bussineses,dont pay for electricity,fuel and so many other priveradges. Other you just open your mouth and release words like an ilitarate. Can you be seriousy plz.
The army is not going to DRC coz they want to maintain peace in zam, Mpompo said yesterday. Mpombo wants to use the army to crush its own people, UNIP tact, more like apartheid, kill them before they grow! The police are also on a shooting spree in the name of ‘dangerous criminals’
People, 30, 000 rands for a president is peanuts.
The intentions of this govt are now very clear for all to see. People, we have things that require urgent attention in our country at present as compared to Salaries. Why not talk about subsidies for the Mealie Meal? Medical Facilities (e.g UTH)?If these people had a heart for the nation, they would forgo the 15% increament while reducing their already high salaries even further…….
God save us……..you vote someone into office and the first thing they do is adjust their salary?????????? Oh, did i say vote someone into office??
this is a selfish lot,docs dont have enough housing allowances ,lecs are striking everyday ,people in luwangwa are dying of hunger and they have the nerve to increase their salaries…
#103 That’s about a policeman. What of the Driver who waits for the politician as he doses off in Parly. He gets a meagre K40 000 commuted overtime when the one dosing inside is entitled to K250000.
Lesa akamikanda bantalamisoka. Mwaonaule icalo
#119
If 30,000 rands is peanuts, then let the president go look for a job elsewhere!
#120 Zambia has become like Nigeria where citizens do not know the meaning of voting. In Nigeria, the police help you to stuff the ballot box with what is considered your vote. In Zambia, VJ does it for you since you don’t know how to vote.
Its amazing,the entire,14million or so Zambians believe we cannot find meaningful politicians,Zambia is run like a chiefdom,Old timers think they know it all,come on,for how long!What do we expect from the oldfolk money hungry,pity if they only knew that true happiness at that age does not come from money,Shame Chanda
Can someone advice me on the need to pay a salaried worker a responsibility allowance? What is this responsibility allowance for? The way I understand this, is that when one has a job they earn a salary and that responsibility allowance is only paid if they are given added responsibilities or acting allowance in the case of acting in a higher position. Now why is the Attorney General being awarded a responsibility allowance on top of his salary?
#119. Hope you understand purchasing power parity. 1 dollar in USA I cannot feed my family. 1 dollar equivalent in Zambia we can enjoy. So, understand that concept first.
#124, exactly. In Zambia the last election was 1991. Since then we have been having selections.
This Is serious MADNESS RB. You know that mealie meal prices are high and you that the country is in serious problems. Workers need to be paid, mazie has to be bought,the nation needs development etc. So this is how you are ging to work ka,you should be ashmad of yourself RB & your followers. What a disgrace bearly a MONTH in office,……..shame shame shame.
kalos shani mune
YOU MUST BE FACTUAL. Civil servants were the first to get increment which was 15%. MPs only attended to themselves after dealing with public service workers.
#117 Chewe, I think i responded to your challenge if i dint then i dint see it.if we want to attract well qualified people in govnt,in other words if we want to poach qualified and experience people to run our ministries like Kaunda did to the Dr Mandas and the Siames(Planner)of this world what should we do.Do you know why Chibanga Kanyama dint take the offer in LPMs adminst.you can not end poverty by dishing out money to the poor, you must attract credible people to run affairs of the country most of these ministers were billionares even before they joined govnt and infact most of them have proven corperate performence.As 4 tribe iam neither Tonga nor Bemba tho nothn wrong with being any
Zedians what do expect from Bwezani?just the name itself tells u what to expect. l cant wait 4 2011 and l hope by then VJ will b dead or in coma.
We told you to vote wisely so now do not complain. We needed a change we can believe and trust.Service to the nation not service to self
Fred M’membe’s company the Post cannot afford what it pays him. That is the reason that they owe duty on newsprint and also PAYE. It is immoral for Mmembe to even talk about sallaries when Post Newspaper workers often get paid late. His Zambian Airways company where he has invested has not paid workers for three months now and yet the top executives are living in luxury.
#132 engines “Kaunda” and “planning” in the same sentence?
Zambian MPs get the lowest pay in the region and that is a fact. Students at UNZA have had their meal allowances doubled before MPs got a mere 15%.
I good but not happy with this new development pa Zambia. Is it national development or family development? Is it national economy or pocket economy now? Please people stop this insanity. Nobody will stop this but us. This is our only nation. Our tax base is so minute that these thugs are now sharing borrowed money. Only you and me can stop them.
Those who wish to blame MMD for everything conveniently forget that all the opposition parties including PF and UPND voted for the 15%.
#139 Zeus, this is cannot be defended no matter how you try. People are dying of hunger in some areas. Remember that grade 9 kid who lost his leg? If nothing is done soon, Zambia will reach the Zimbabwe stages once again. Look at the world economy. When everyone is tightening, our so called leaders are loosening. What nonsense is that?
The amounts that the MPs are getting cannot be described as outrageous. They are being paid peanuts even after the increment. The 158 people getting these amounts are suppossed to be the Cream of our society and yet we want to pay them alms not beffitting a begar.
#6 I agree with you,its not that we are happy where we are no!nomba pa ZED greedy yalicilamo.take a look at the salaries and compare them with other civil service workers who even have better qualifications than tetamashimba and mulongoti.Nshakabwele from here niku Australia,from Australia niku Uk or USA then ku canada and finally ku heaven.
This is all bullsh!t. I bet they have gained more than they have lost, for more than 2 thirds of the crooks to vote unanimously, something fishy going on. All the same, Toadface rejected increments during elections and he has approved them now, period. He’s a fake manipulating id!ot politician
#136 yes you can have them together if you are looking at the positive side like i have done.
#141 Zeus
Cream of our society!?
Can you elaborate on that?
I think you’re part of the problem.
“PARLIAMENT has scrapped the responsibility allowance for constitutional office holders and drastically reduced the special and utility allowances in the revised emolument bills that were approved yesterday.”
Better than the would-be worst that has been reduced or changed. However, it would have been better to consider the people who actually need the funda in terms of education, health and others.
Let this be a lesson that we need the UPND in 2011 to sort this terrible problems that have seen a common Zambian as a begger while the politicians are throwing money around for they have too much for themselves.
I THINK FR BWALYA FORESAW THIS,VEEP LEVY WAS YO PAL DO U THINK HE HAD PLANS OF ANY INCREMENT 4 U GUYS!BESIDES DONT CHASE STREET KIDS NOW,U WERE SUPPOSED TO CHASE THEM FROM THE STREETS BEFORE ELECTIONS.BAFIKILA U ARE THIEVES BWEZANI ZATU PLIZZZ.
Whatever we complain about,the answer is ourselves.Work hard and reap the benefits.Those against this adjustment are doing so out of selfishness coz every one of us deserves better.Why shud it br big just b’coz MPs are involved.I wonder the intentions of the Post for misleading its readership.
HA HA HA THIS IS A JOKE,BUSHE IMWE BA GOVT ARE U GOING INCREASE CIVIL SERVANTS SALALES BY THE SAME % AS BA KATEKA. UNIONS DO SOME 4 POOR WORKERS.
Bu MP should not be full time job. Its just representation to avoid fooshinesness of representation from every township, Now, Why should someone who has been MP for 7 yrs, with nothing to show the pipo he represents get so much mahera?
This is a state of backwardness on the elctorate coz we do not think things throught and take time to remind the MPs what is expected of them. Most constituents dont even make proposals of their community basic needs such as street lighting, or Garbage collection.
You see, we told you. We need change in this country for Zambia to vote based on issues. The POST went tribe while the Govt. machinery went munyaule, promoting clowns leaving the right candidate meant to bring in real change. You have to taste and swallow the bitter pill until you learn to concentrate on issues and leadership that is knowledgable. We have 3 years to discuss issues if we really want change for this country. If not, you have to leave with munyaule and clowns as a generation
#144 Engines I wasn’t being negative just amused. I guess you must be a UNIP die hard 🙂
CDF, ba manta, NCC, ba manta, Parly ba manta, imwe bantu, when is ti going to rain on the elctorate
I beg to differ with all those comparing the Salaries of these overfeed and good for nothing minister and the rest with salaries of those international firms. The question is do these minister have speacila shops were they will be getting their supplies from? R they going to use their transport as buses for every body.R they going to rent houses in shanities like every one else.So ladies and gentle men this will not be the case. These guys will continue getting 1 fuel allowance and free fuel,Educational, housing domestic, free electricity, water, security,and many other allowances. R these given freely to the hard working civil servant. So ladies supporting this should not bull sh…t us.
Mwaona manje, we told you. We need to change the way we vote this country for ordinary Zambians to benefit. vote based on issues. The POST went tribe while the Govt. machinery went munyaule, promoting clowns leaving the right candidate meant to bring in real change. You have to taste and swallow the bitter pill until you learn to concentrate on issues and leadership that is knowledgable. We have 3 years to discuss issues if we really want change for this country. If not, you have to leave with munyaule and clowns as a generation
The legacy lives on.
Anyone not using rational engagement will blame this increment on MMD. But anybody who thinks through issues, whether an MMD, PF or UPND supporter, will attribute this to parliament. Remember that parliament is not only MMD. MMD is about 80 and the rest are opposition. Now we have been told that 119 voted for the ammendment, 6 were absent meaning only 25 voted gainst out of the 150 MP we have. So now those blaming RB for what happens in parliament have a short memory because even social studies of Grade 7 indicate that a bill in motion is not in the hands of the president. After MPs have done their part the president has only 2 choices, either sign or veto. So why boast in lack of knowledge?
#137,Please,What about the Civil servants,they are the least paid in the region.If you talk about the HOUSING HOUSE,It is a big insult for the civil Servants.The housing allowance is too mingle.
#141 AND #148 WANTED CHIEF and ZEUS
This guys feeling bad about this would equaly feel bad if there freind bought a house or a nice car. How on earth would you want your leaders to have salary of a shop keeper. who would then desire to be a leader. I felt embaranced one time in a foreign country when our minister wanted a receipt at mcdoughnads simply because he has to retire imprest and as you know in most fast foods in europe recepts go strait to the trash can.lets just work hard ourselves and employ the poor although its difficult if they dont have a trade or qualification.
#152 i dint mean you are negative, i meant if you look at the positive side of KK. iam not UNIP although there is nothing wrong with being a UNIP die hard.
There was plenty sanity in Kaunda’s Govt. Such rubbish was never entertained!! The man actually said it – the 1991 elections ushered in thieves into office!
LPM’s vision thrown out of the window by nyama soya. MMD kuya bebele mu 2011. Fipuba. In 2011 I am voting for pres Magande or Mmembe not ba ngwele
#159,correction,that politician you ran into just lacked exposure,what is embarassing and shocking is tha calibre of these Old tymers,renumeration globally is based on performance,pa Zed its based on “how are they gona know”aka Bazaziba bwanji!..Chanda
145 Anonomous,
Our leaders should be the cream of our society. In order to attrat the cream to be our MPs we have to offer them attracctive packages otherwise we shall not get the best.
#132,Engine,i know the reason why Chibamba Kanyama refused to get a job offer from the late president.Its because the salary offered was not as attractive as whr he was wrking then.He did well,you dont become an mp to enrich yourself at the expense of poor majority.When you get into politics you are there to serve people,not to become rich by getting heft Salaries.Those who dont want to serve,they should look for jobs else where.So that they can be getting huge Salaries and get rich.Or start bussineses and leave politics.Do you know that the kenyan president at 1 time refused to have his salary increased? Enock Kavindele,served as mp for chingola without getting a Salary. Kaunda tried to talk to him to be getting his Salary but he refused. HH is very educated and he has a lot of money,but he wants to be president to serve not to make money.So those with big appettite for money they should leave politics period.Am pregnant with information on most of these issues,you cant cheat me.
LT why are you blocking my comments on this topic?
146 Mungungulu H Mwaanga,
Even UPND voted the same way as MMD over the sallaries and allowances so your argument cannot griow legs and walk.
149 John Insult-Chibombo,
Yes the civil servants got a 15% increment just like the MPs. The rise that the civil servants got is infact the benchmark for the MPs’ increment. Now that this has been cleared I hope you are now happy and cool with the increment. Or do you still have some beef?
Guys Parliament is a combination of MMD, UPND and Pf. None of them are complaining, fighting or walking out. This tells you somthing about The caliber of our leaders!!!!!Which ever party you vote in power, they are all the same.. Very rare do you find a disciplined leader like Levy was.. God rest his Soul!!!! Plz read and understand the story before you start pointing fingers..Dont just Blame the MMD…All the greedy MPS and ministers are to blam…..
Zed sucks, vote for FTJ
FTJ had saved Zed from Silly KK
165 Chewe,
There are only so many Mother Theresa’s in the world. What the MPs are getting is not something that can make you rich. They are in fact serving the Zambian people by getting such low sallaries compared to the demands on them from the electorate. Spend a day with your MP and you will appreciate what they have to do. All over the world legislators are maligned as receiving money for nothing because unlike sausage makers or pumpkin growers you cannot measure their output by putting it on a scale. It is for that reason that you fail to appreciate their worth. Ofcourse some are lazy but that is not the reason to make the others suffer. Vote the lazy ones out.
Thanks for all your messages… You are the ones who are supposed to be in parliament!!! Great breaks but outside parliament!!! When you get there you shall become useless also!!!
Its better we just blog!!! I dont want to lose you guys!!!!
if paliament goes on to increase the their salaries and allowances, we will do anything in our power to stop this, in accordance with our contitution. i therefore, announce the starting of the citizens movement against incraese of salaries and allowances of parliamenterians.
all those in support of this just coz, say ‘i’.
some thing ought to be done, so please people can we unite and protest against govt, atleast lets register our displeasure by getting a permit of protest, lets take to the streets.
we can not continue to be docile.
Govt efwabupuba, Rb u should be ashamed,this does not make u popular among Zambian, U cannot let this politicians use u like this.
….AS RB CONTINUES WITH MWANAWASA’S VISION, ZAMBIA CONTINUES WITH ITS DOWNWARD TREND… MMD??? THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU ALLOW VILLAGERS TO DECIDE. VILLAGERS USE THEIR BELLIES TO THINK.
#165 Chewe you are being religious on matters that are technical in a capitalist world.It is only in a church and not in government where you can convince people to work for nothing.its not that when i ask for what is proportionate to my imput the i want to enrich myself.What kavindele dint get was his basic salary not allowances and do you expect all the 150MPs to be kavindele? if you look for such sacrifice you will end up with people that cant perform.why should a minister be ridding a bycycle while line ministry officers have executive cars.remember throughout the history of mankind we have only had one saviour who sacrificed for all of us unfortunately we killed him 2008years ago
Engine i support u comment abt upgrading accademically, but we should be able express our displeasure, what do u think
ZNFU has just announced a perpetual increase of mealie meal prices upto 2010. So start practising how to tighten your belts while Toad Face and Constitutional Office bearers will be practising how to loosen their belts.
Viva October 30 Elections because I know my cousin in Shangombo, Mwiya Mwiya will feel the pinch for having ushered in Nyama Soya
#178 yes we should express our displeasure but they must be genuine and honest other than making a tradition that whenever salaries for constitutional office holders are raised we cry foul, when our own are raise we cry for more.So you are right we must upgrade our qualifications while we are still young because that way we will demand what we want at apersonal level without looking at other peoples salaries.
These guys dont do anything and dont have a heart for the country especially the common people!!do they deserve the allowances and the salaries for doing anything??
#119 30,000 rand is even too much for a president who was just imposed on people who pay him. He is there against his masters the zambians will. Let him go back to the farm if he is not satisfied! After all chikopo fye.
#Engines
You are missing the point here.
The people are saying that there isn’t enough money to support the proposed salaries. The people don’t want to use the little money there is in the treasury to increase their elected servants’ salaries instead of using it for development (health, education, roads, etc…). Government workers should tighten their belts too!
Ba LT munidabwisa, you are talking the heading is about reducing salaries but the story is about salary increments……..mmmmmmmmmmmm??
Ba LT munidabwisa, the heading is about reducing salaries but the story is about salary increments……..mmmmmmmmmmmm??
It is not surprising that we have ushered in a cabinet which is self centred and insesitive to the plight of the majority poor Zambians. What do you expect from a cabinet comprising thieves and crooks like VJ. As parlimantary chief whip, this is a strategy for MMD to rig the 2011. Let’s be careful. We ‘ve bn cheated for too long.VJ will make sure all unpalatable issues are pushed thru the house. Viva PF & Sata.
#183 how can govnt workers tighten there belts when they also had a 15% increament recently. worldwide salary increament do occure every year, i dont know about you as for me iam also negotiating my increament with my boss as we aproach the end of the year. The quation of availability of funds is very subjective, how much should the treasuery have for you to say that funds are available because as far as i know funds are never available anywhere in the world, save for ZAMTEL because they are in huge debts out of there own mismanagement.
167. your flag ZEUS,
UPND voted yes because they already had spoken well on this issue through president HH just before the elections. Just check your facts and so, I am not surprised as Maestro Hhehhehhehhe that UPND vote for it.
However, vote for the mighty UPND to form GRZ in 2011.
Bloggers such spectator,maestro hehehe,georgia russia,ponyak,baby c,zed gelo are missing were are you guys
Ok guys,lets b realistic, did u reli think tht the more money in ur pockets was meant for u? It was meant for these same pipo so it sti wud have come to the same thing. Its jes abt who is holding the cooking stick ryt now. All we need is a major overhaul of Cabinet and Parly. Hope more young pipo will stand in 2011,remebr u only need to b 21 to qualify and a few issues which I blve u have. so its young pipo 2011. Viva, viva, viva!!!!
During the campaigns,RB stated that he wanted to serve the nation,but today he has served us with High Mealie Meal Prices,but has also served himself with a Salary Increament,You wonder were all that money his going to get paid will be used for,Firstly He and his Vice are not going to be paying any rentals to any landlord,Electricty,Water bills,Food,Drinks,Alcohol,school fees for the children,a full fuel tank (for the Mercedez)and clothes are all paid for by we the Tax payers,now You wonder were his goin to spend all that money on,coz basically all is provided for them,pipo if you’ve never been to state house,ask me,that place is a 10 Star Hotel,
The world economy is crumbling, but here we are being told that we have money! God help us….
I READ THE STORY IN THE POST AND COMPARED TO THIS IT HAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SLANT TO IT. I HAVE BEEN OPEN MINDED BUT TODAY I SEE THAT THE POST REALLY STINKS. HERE IS THE VICE PRESIDENTS EMOLUMENTS:
PREVIOUS PERKS: K86284820(salary) + 90OOOOOO(responsibility) + 64400000(utility) + 94119870(special) = 334804690.
PRESENT PERKS: 99227544 + 33886567 + 26680000 = 159794111 (exclude responsibilty allowance). AS FAR AS I CAN SEE THIS IS A REDUCTION NOT AN INCREASE! SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE POST EDITORS? HONESTLY, WHAT KIND OF HATRED IS THIS AGAINST A MAN THAT DISTORTS FACTS SO THAT EVEN NUMBERS MEAN WHAT THEY DO NOT MEAN? TO MISUSE WORDS IS FORGIVABLE BUT NOT NUMBERS!
There is no reduction.Instead,they have incresed their earnings.
Engines,that funds are never available is fallacy and total distortion of facts.For example Botswana at some point had $6bn in reserves.Being a minister or president for that matter is meant to serve not to agrandise.All over the World,those whose aim is to make money and amass wealth should join the private sector,period!!Don’t just look at the 15% these fellas got other fringe benefits,like for the president-free food,clothes,housing,the list is endless.I think your understanding of capitalism is rather exegerated.Already our balance of payment is negative by a $100m or so.Inflation target is single digit yet you award an increment of 15%.
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189. your flag Short Mazabuka, you wrote “Bloggers such spectator,maestro hehehe,georgia russia,ponyak,baby c,zed gelo are missing were are you guys” and I assure you that I am around as Maestro Hhehhehhehhe only that I am using Mugungulu H. Mwaanga and Ubuntu … to deceive my self-made energies though I do not have enermies.
Have a blessed day and take care.
The salaries are fair. Why do we Zambians dwell on pettiness. These are annual salaries which translate to average of K8m allowances inclusive. Those who are saying there is no money go ask HH. He showed there was money and you were busy insulting. Viva K3.5m for civil servants. Hikaumba follow this up Veep has confirmed HH’s assertion that money is there. Kunda has said even the old proposed increments were feasible
The Post jes lyk Sata r jes here to make us laugh and b entertained wen we r bored. Plz dont blve tht nonsense, u r more inteliigent than that Zambia. plz!!!
People, from the above and by simple addition , RB’s monthly gross is K18,609,562.50.Unless there are other undisclosed earnings, this very little for a president! A Mine Captain’s monthly gross on the copperbelt is on average about K15,000,000.00.So why are we making so much noise! The president should earn better than this!
#15,172 despite the 15% increament, they get almost everything tax free,in the poor country like ours.Mind you they are suppose to serve the people not being served.If your father is an mp pliz keep your silly mouth shut.Our relatives work hard for no good pay at all.Look at Doctors and UNZA lecturers.Even when they cry for just a little bit no one cares.Thats why some of us we will never come back,the best we can do is cry for all Zedians who suffer day and night.esp people in sikanze..
You relatives also next time vote wisely the 1991 way.No rigging can defeat you.
#177,Engine,am not trying to be religious with the facts.Am not saying that these people should work for nothing, no mr.what am saying is that they have to be reasonable.And dont compare Zambia to other countries,this is a poor Country.Didnt hear Mulongoti Saying that he doesnt want politics of poverty? What did he mean? the opposite of poverty is rich not so? Meaning these crooks want to be rich in politics.People like you dont really care for a poor Zambian.If the Salaries are not already attractive,why did most of these people join politics.Because in parliament,there are proffessors, Doctors name them.Highly qualified people.And some of them are richer more richer than before they joined politics. There children are learning from abroad.Why did the higly educated leave there proffessionals and Join politics? Dont just be rhetoric here,most of these characters dont care about the nation at large.You wil see if RB wil alocate k1b cdf funds as promised.Dont just make noise.
A VICE PRESIDENT’S SALARY OF K160 MILLION KWACHA WORKS OUT AS £27 THOUSAND POUNDS! THAT IS JUST OVER £2000 PER MONTH! THIS IS A THANKLESS TASK. WHY DO PEOPLE DO IT? A MIDDLE GRADE NURSE IN THE BRITISH NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE COULD GET THAT MUCH. THIS IS ONE REASON WHY WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF CORRUPTION IN ZAMBIA. HOW CAN A ‘WHOLE’ VICE PRESIDENT GET A SALARY IN A MONTH THAT CANNOT EMPOWER HIM TO BY A 42″ PLASMA TV? HE WILL HAVE TO GET ONE AS A ‘GIFT’ FROM A CORRUPTOR! LET ME SUGGEST THAT THESE JOBS BE PART TIME AND ALL THESE GUYS GET DECENT JOBS. APPOINT A ‘CEO’ FOR ZAMBIA (PLC) ANSWERABLE TO A BOARD OF DIRECTORS LIKE MPS. WE CAN VALUE ZAMBIA AND EVERY CITIZEN A SHAREHOLDER.
Ba shidada windhoek,you say the president gets R30,000,boss thats just his salary,not actual earnings.Even as we grew up,our parents would always teach us to live within our means,lest you steal.Zambia is an economically poor country where each single penny should be put to good use.Now,Shidada,tell me,is R30,000 small pay in SA?I don’t think so.Actually,far more people here get hire salaries than the president of SA.
#202 vOTE RIGGER- YOU THINK THOSE ARE TRUE FIGURES. PANDE KONGA AND CIFIRE HAD VERY HIGHLY PAYING JOBS AND YOU THINK THEY OPT FOR THOSE PEA NUTS UNLESS THEY ARE OUT THEIR MIND OTHER WISE THERE MORE BENEFITS THAT CAN NOT BE SEEN BY THE NAKED EYE. ME AM NOT EVEN A MANAGER BUT IF ITS TRUE THEN AM GETTING 2X VP’S PAY AND THERE WOULD RATHER STAY IN MY JOB THAN RISK INSULTS DAILY
#202 come on…get with the programme…Are you seriously trying to compare incomes earned in a developed economy compared to beggars…how do you expect a Zed leader to get your prime minister salary equivalent,that 2pin poundsam afraid is a lot of money in zambia,if you spend it there,so get your facts right before trying to confuse us all,am sure you know that what you probably earn over there would make you a millionaire down pa zed..dont mislead..us all
#195 Tonga bull emoluments are not payed from reserves. How much money do you want the treasury to have for you to say that funds are now available. the question of availability of fund is similar to the question of how much money constitute enough money. what is enough in Zambia can not equally be enough in USA or Botswana. in zambia we live with what we have and thats why the president salary is 18 million kwacha after a 15% increament, similar to that of a mine Boss. if you want to build clinics, roads, hospitals and more medicine from this amount advertise for bids and see a quote then compare with this salary multiplied by 150MPs and then by 12
202 u r off the line, u can’t compare the uk salary structures with the zambian one! the uk taxes are high, there is also the issue of council tax which is not zeddian, just the all cost of living is higher. uk govt has a wider income base as opposed to zed. plz don’t compare zed to uk, compare zed to countries like Malawi etc,
#201 Chewe you seem to have a problem with rich people and i dont know how i can help you. MPs are not appointed by God so if you feel that others are not performing because they are rich and have sent there children abroad and that they are becoming richer its upto you to decampaign them so that they are voted out. if anything why do you vote for them
The problem is that the qualification to be president or minister needs to be revised such that you need first of all a bachelors degree and have substantial amount of money to stand this way when one is in office they are not preoccupied with getting rich.
Do you hear Obama mentioning anything about his salary? In Zambia not even a month after elections, no one has mentioned the hungry, the poor schools etc, the first item on the bill is “what salary am I getting” This alone ought to tell you that this president and his so called ministers are only interested in themselves. Its just a pity that “WE THE EDUCATED STAND BY WHILE OUR SO CALLED LEADERS ABUSIVE THE POOR”
WHO KNOWS THE TRUE FIGURES THAT THESE PUBLIC OFFICERS EARN? I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE HERE DEBATING WRONG FIGURES! SURELY A PRESIDENT CAN NOT EARN THAT LITTLE EVEN IF OURS IS A POOR COUNTRY. HOWEVER, IF THAT WHAT IS EARNED, THEN WE HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
the changes read well, but mathematically they have not made any changes really!
LT it is sad to see that you now censor what is said on your site because everything that is critical of our current government is never put up. also why have you not blatantly just said that they have gone against their word and increased the wages rather than playing it down and saying that allowances have been slashed
pa zed we r not serious abt nothing, we r so laid back & just don’t care wat happens to our resources! we r o’ways so scared of doing anything abt nothing, we r all a bunch of cowards & now we re allowing Parliament to plunder our megre resources. we r o’ways talkin abt zed been a peaceful nation, let me ask u, peace at wat cost? at the cost of plunder & pipo just watching huh? tell u wat, peace is not the absence of a armed conflict, there is no peace in zed rite now coz pipo r struglin for ends meet! we gatta do something be pipo resort to unzeddian conflict mgt
135 ZEUS…Whatever you call yourself. You such a jealous low life. Thank God our freedom fighters never had bloody sucking and selfish vultures like you because liberation wouldn’t have come with such minds. Don’t be so self centred my brother!Have heart don’t defend the indefensible…the issue of hefty emoluments in an economy like ours is vomit. On Fred M’membe you are ill-informed. I work for a bank and I process salaries for Post employees every month. I know that Post employees are by far well paid than most private companies. Don’t be petty and appreciate locals that are working hard to keep our qualified countrymen off the streets! I feel such is progress!
Blaming everything on the government will never improve any of you guys life. If Bill Gates had the same attitude as most of us in Zambia he would not have become the richest software giant. Remember even in his time there were people who were complaining and blaming the Govt of US yet with better qualifications than Bill Gates. Even here in Zambia, some of us are very educated but all we is criticize and look for people to interview us for a job. We never think of making a difference in the corporate world. yet there a number of less learned people than ourselves who have developed themselves into very respect CEOs while we are busy fighting for conditions of service from our employers.
VJ’S LIFE IS AT THE CUTTING EDGE HE WILL NOT ENJOY THOSE COLLOSSAL SUMS OF MONEY AFTER WHAT HE HAS DONE TO THE POOR OF ZAMBIA.GOD IS WATCHING.WITH HIS HORRIBLE SICKNESS HE WILL NOT FINISH 2009.MANY PEOPLE ARE CRYING OVER HIS RIGGING OF ELECTIONS,AND THE ONLY WAY RB CAN REPAY HIM IS BY APPOINTING HIM AS CHIEF WHIP AND INCREASE HIS SALARY AT EXPENSE OF MANY TAX PAYERS.TWACHULA TUFE CHABE KANSI
Short Mazabuka,,
am very much around my friend,i have been hit hard by work pressures,other wsie am following all the events.its sad that they find it easy to have better condtions unlike other labourers who are threatened with all kind of threats.thats it for now and have a great day my friend
Can someone in working in the bank now tell us how much goes in into these politicians accounts as salaries. Then we can work out the issues of deductions due to loans, tax and others. The last time i checked on average most of these fellas had less than K4m hitting their accounts as salaries. There is nothing in salaries for politician. Hikaumba naumfwa tapali ichibumba. K3.5m/month/civil servant. HH bwekeshapo nakambi. Ati shinga per civil sufferers? Ubalange ne mpiya eko shili. RB alemoneka nalala.
The bill was passed by parliament, which includes opposition members. So no need to just castigate the MMD. If the opposition are so good, why did they not All of them vote against it?
we told them but they thot we were lying, VJ is back and this will go on…Corruption will be the order of the day.
God gracios!!!!!! What salaries have these f*****s reduced???? So these people were just waiting for elections to pass. Shame on you f******s who call yourselves honourable memebers of parliament, you are not even ashamed that professionals in Zambia are among the least paid in the region, Shame on you chi Bwezani chi toadface chi sleeping giant….
Guys, when you devide these annual salaries by 12 months you will find that actually the salaries are extramely low for the kind of offices these guys hold. Some Parastatal CEOs who report to Ministers actuaaly get far much more money than the ministers. I will not be shocked if our President is not the lowest paid President in Africa. To tell you the truth, I wouldn`t want to be a minister becouse it can reduce my quality of life. These guys must also increase for other civil servants.
Bloggers! Seriously how can one reasonable Zambian praise the emoluments for politicians? Sometimes I tend to think that certain names on this blog belong to high school students and not adults because their contributions and reasoning point to minds of youngsters. You want to make politics lucrative as if one is compelled to become a politician? During campaigns these bastards mislead our rural countrymen that they are offering a voluntary service when in actual sense they are vampires with no heart at all. That’s why people must come to politics after they have made their money and not vice versa.
Shall we be seriousy with the way we make our analisis you guys. Some of you are even saying these characters deserve this,are you sure? They have failed to perform.What has Mulongoti,Teta, Shikapwasha,Dora Siliaya,Lungwangwa,Mpombo to mention a few,what have they done apart from intimidating innocent citizens and the media. Most of these crooks even in parliament they just doze,because they have a lot of fats in them. Hence dont even contribute positively.Lets be real guys.Engine love you and God bless you.Till next time bye!!
Many of you guys have very little analytical strength and little understanding. How can you blame this on the MMD instead of parliamentarians? Are we saying that we are so weak in our ability to percieve? This is a total shock for people to fail to understand the simplest of all things that logic would ever demand. Are you guys that are blaming the MMD and RB joking or you are serious? If you are serious then your analytical problem is bigger than my estimation.
I REPEAT. GET RID OF POLITICS. RUN THE COUNTRY AS A COMPANY. ALLOCATE SHARES TO EVERY CITIZEN AND WE ELECT BOARD OF DIRECTORS, CHAIRED BY THE EQUIVALENT OF A PRESIDENT. JUST LIKE THE ROMAN POLIS! IS THERE ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHICH IS BRAVE ENOUGH TO TRY THIS? I THINK CHINA IS ON THE VERGE OF BEING A BIG CORPORATE GIANT. WE HAVE BEEN DOING POLITICS FOR ONE THOUSAND YEARS NOW AND IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE WORKING VERY WELL. IF WE CANNOT DO IT COUNTRY WIDE MAYBE WE SHOULD START WITH A TOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO BUY SOLWEZI! ANYONE INTERESTED?
I thought the figures were monthly. I dont think the increaments are unreasonable though the manner might be unreasonable. Why did RB withdraw the bill and soon after elections introduce it?
The commissioner General of ZRA, the BOZ governor etc get more than K100million per month and yet this is the minister of finance’s monthly salary to whom they report. This is not to suggest that ministers salaries should should be pegged at a higher rate than their juniors but probably the other way round.
Thanks Chewe you made my day love you too God bless. All zambians need salary increaments whether they are Mps or private workers.
While I agree with the thought that these increments are untimely as most parliamentarians around the world are currently discussing issues of the global financial crisis and finding ways of getting solutions to the same. On the other hand the Zambian Parliamentarians are busy discussing their pay rise. This is complettely dissappointing.
However, I dont agree with those of you who were injured by the just ended elections and so you want to blame everything on the MMD when your MPs are busy voting for the increments in the house. only 25 MPs have voted against, why the blame on the MMD. Are we that incapable to see even without any analysis, which we dont even need in this case.
I WAS NOT CONVERTING THESE SALARIES INTO POUNDS IN ORDER TO COMPARE WITH UK. I AM BETTER PLACED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CANNOT BE THE SAME. BUT THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS ‘HOW CAN YOU ATTRACT WORLD CLASS PEOPLE TO WORK IN YOUR COUNTRY IF YOU HAVE SUCH POOR SALARIES?’ THIS ISSUE TRICKLES DOWN TO PERMANENT SECRETARIES AND THEN CIVIL SERVANTS. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT A PERMANENT SECRETARY (OF WHICH MOST ARE TECHNOCRATS) WILL NOT GET MORE THAN A MINISTER. THOSE WHO ARGUE ABOUT DIFFERENT CONDITIONS OF LIVING IN THE WEST AND ZAMBIA ARE FUELLING THE UNEQUL PAY STRUCTURES BETWEEN EXPATS AND LOCALS.
With one hand they giveth and the other hand they taketh away. I would like to see what their net increase or decrease in total allowance/pay is.
Lets stop feeling sorry the so called CIVIL Servants. For the service which they provide, they dont deserve to be paid. They claim that its because they are not well paid hence thier indifference. Their pay equates to their output, which in most cases is zero. Think of those customs guys. All they are after is a bride! The country is poor because of low output.
Lekeni abaice balefola amahalf. you just want to shine becoz you are overpaid for cleaning pipos bottoms in the diaspora?
# 199 Mapao mukonzi there is no mine captain who gets K15M on the copperbelt.
Why are debating wrong figures. can a president be getting that little money.We all know how even some simple civil servants live their lives in effect very few resign to joing the private sector becouse there is money in goverment.
The why are people still in politics when they can do better than those figures. We all know the truth let them stop cheating us.
I am mauless, I don’t know where Zambia is heading to, I thought these people would have first worked for a year to see how they will deliver before they think of hiking their salaries. I think if we put all the allowances which they have not mentioned here with what has been mentioned then it will be umuphili wandalama which is very unfair on the majority of us poor Zambians. I now think HH would have been a better person to rule this Country.
If we analysed critically, the amounts they are showing us are actually the amounts they have added on top of their salaries. They try to make it seem as if they are getting very little when in fact they are getting much more money in salaries and allowances.
What capacity do we have in our parliament to analyse the global slow down? I am sure they do not think it will affect them or Zambia. They think it is the western world problem. I do not think they have a plan in place. What a country, the first thing the President does is to signs his salary increment and we are happy about it. Further, they mask their actual salaries by giving us low figures??
Sounds good, but who doesn’t know they will still find a way to siphone back what has been reduced? This country needs better leader the current crop of leaders I see today.
#227 Zambian
“The commissioner General of ZRA, the BOZ governor etc get more than K100million per month and yet this is the minister of finance’s monthly salary to whom they report”
Have you verified this information?
Brothers and Sisters of the Land, do these people come to make money or serve the voiceless and Poor zambians. Most of them just stand and say they are standing for the elections then when elected they start comparing themselves to chief executives of companies what a country. THAT IS WHY 2011 WE WILL SAY VIVA APATHY ABASH VOTING. LET RUPIAH ALSO SELECT HIS SUCCESSOR AND INSTALL HIM OR HER WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.
2011 VIVA VOTER APATHY, ABASH VOTING
All MPs voted for the increments. MMD and opposition MPs never disagree on salaries and privileges being readjusted upwards. The Post is being economical with the truth by preteding that only RB is the culprit.
That’s what Zambians are good at. All you bloggers are talking for the sake of it without anyone providing a sensible solution to the problems facing our country. For Umwina Kalale (11), there is no need to insult people with HIV/AIDS. Remember Aids affects the Human race, I believe you are human too.
Much as the president’s pay appears to be large annually I took out a calculator and converted it to forein currency and it comes to only about 34000 pound sterling or about 53000 dollars. As an annual salary compared to other countries this is less than what an average footballer gets in a week in most leagues in Europe. For a head of state this is quite average. It is only that our country is poor and every one is underpaid and under worked that we think is is big money. I believe RB is earning less than the Executive Diretors at Barclays or any other big company. The parliament must now consider a minimum wage of all grz employees to be at least 3 million kwacha.
LT. Why are you not including my contribution?
Guys. I`ve just looked at the english in this article. Actually the amounts being reflected are what they will be getting on top of what they are getting. These guys are crooks. Read the english; it says increased by X amount.
Does it mean that now they will work harder and better for Zambia…or are the the only ones who continue to get fat while the rest of Zambia struggles?
You stop looking after your big, fat pockets and look after the Children,women and youth of Zambia.
Improve Education and health please…!!!!
Today not tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
These are fair salaries[k15000,000] for the vice president? It is even too low.
Ba ZEUS if you are paid by them pliz shut your mouth.I am a senior Medical Doctor officer who was suppose to be treating Zambians but due to such low thinking like yours i would rather be here.pliz find out how long it takes to reach my level and start crying for a normal salary.Find out what my friends still get at UTH,like my driver’s pay! Thats why Zambia will never bring back a nomal skilled person.
i mean normal person.typing error.
#246 u seem to very comfortable,how much do u earn for u say its too low.is veep yo uncle,be real my bro.
#235. Kamongoche
#244. CHE
Review of conditions of service is a rolling programme and it comes and goes. This cycle started when LPM was around. These guys are just finalising it. This would have happened even if LPM had not died.
On the English issue, salary is increased by 15% to K164,120,016 means ‘exactly what it says on the tin’. In maths terms the equation would be: (15/100 * X) + X = 164120016. (where X is the old salary). Solving for X gives K142,713,057.39 as the previous salary.
some of u , u r jst complaining but deep down yo hearts u know u voted 4 RB and these r the results now.We told u at first.
They are all taking less home. Very patriotic of them to scrap off some of the allowances. The salary increments are not high at all. Look at the reponsibility allowance reduction. All good stuff. Hats off to you law makers this time.
When a pie is small children scramble and grumble for every piece they have. Zambians must create wealth so that we come to a point where MPs salaries is no longer news.
132 are you really serious,with your thoughts!!!
How i wish you had some one working for the Government as a civil servant!!
Please think before you express yourselves,Tell me which minister was a
Blame ZRA for salaries.This ministries have families also.Bear with them.
Other people in Zambia are getting more than 15000 dollars per month.Ask suppliers to the mines(buyers).
There seems to be more to this than meets the eye. i for one converted those amounts to USD and they seem modest(whether before or after tax). However i strongly feel if that’s what they will be getting then they’re better off even being suppliers baku mine. cos all these pipo currently lead extravagant lives.
Before the elections I said watch their lips…barely three weeks after the elections, the same bill has come back. Mwe bena Zambian bukeni mwebantu. Bakulamishingafye butter ifyofine fye.
ati civil servants were also given 15%. What is 15% of K800,000? These nyama soyas will be earning k35m per month? Teddy Chilambe sung “We cipuba isuka umutwe”.
Points to consider; i) £2000 may buy more in Zambia than it does in the UK ii) What is Zambia’s GDP? What levels of spending can be afforded in relation to this GDP? iii) Is 15% of a civil servant’s salary the same as 15% of a higher salary? iv) I am not an economist, but perhaps someone who is, should enlighten us on the above.
Lastly, being a politician does not necessarily entitle one to gigantic perks. That is why other people more eminently qualified with experience and generating wealth in their work, are able to earn more.
I observe that some people here are ignorant about alot of issues. They think this increment is ok. How can it be ok when these guys get everything for free? Did you also know that they don’t get taxed?
Its because of ignoramuses likes you that these chaps find it easy to do whatever they want.
To those who think this increment is ok I say – We cipuba isuka umutwe!
Is it true that these bozos don’t pay PAYE tax? Can we have some banker confirming wat acutally goes into these chaps accounts?
#117. Chewe, wapona buti? Ndikomene kapati kubona kuti ulimuntu wacisi. Ibantu boonse nobalikuyeya mbuli ndiwe mucisi cesu, sunu mabala notwali kweendala aalamfu.
Koujisi kucita mulimo mubotu alimwi leza aakuleleke.
We all have only one Zambia to develop and so we need to apply all the senses we have to move our great nation in the right direction. May you all have a blessed day.
Irresponsible comments from engines, zeus, maestro heheheheh and other st**id guys in diaspora. If your father is MMD continue enjoying the loot but one day God will have a final say on you. A child in Shangombo can only have chindambi and nshima in 3 days. You don’t have hearts. You make me sick and fell like throwing up. St**id children of ministers. What have you learnt in Europe, Nothing. Just bunch of f**l.
The way I see, having a lot of payment is not an issue, but the issue comes, to what extent are you ready to use the said money properly to meet your desires? How the economy support you to save enogh for future. You know we use to store money for unforseen emergences. Now do you save and get ready for any misfortune which mighy haapen as we are living creatures of this earth?
Let think and re-think over this issue.
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