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PATRIOTIC Front (PF) cadres on the Copperbelt have appealed to party president Michael Sata to call for a national convention at which new leaders should be elected.

PF member, Felix Bwalya, said in a statement in Ndola yesterday that the youth on the Copperbelt were floating Chishimba Kambwili and Saviour Chishimba for the party presidency because of their positive vision for the party.

PF spokesperson, Given Lubinda, when contacted for a comment, said people in the party had the right to air their opinions and campaign for their preferred candidates.

Mr Lubinda said it was, however, important that as members campaigned for their preferred candidates, they did not engage in character assassination.

“In a democratic party like ours, what matters is the majority. They can go ahead and campaign, but they should not insult others. No-one will stop them,” he said. [quote]

Mr Bwalya said Mr Sata had denied members their opportunity to democratically elect their preferred members to run the affairs of the party.

He said Mr Sata had outlived his usefulness because he has had his time as a politician and should, therefore, accord young and vibrant members like Mr Kambwili and Dr Chishimba to renew their party’s chances of doing better on the political scene.

Mr Bwalya claimed that the PF was not growing because of the leadership style of Mr Sata and that his chance of ever ruling Zambia had “slipped between his fingers”.

He said Mr Sata’s old age would alienate him from being leader of Zambia.
“Mr Kambwili and Dr Chishimba are our favourites to take over the leadership of our party, we are behind them. We are ready to help with the campaigns,” he said.
Mr Bwalya said the PF was the only party which did not hold elections.

[Times of Zambia ]

145 COMMENTS

  1. Batata ba Sata chachine why not leave for young ones though?In my view Given Lubinda qualifies to replace Sata..

  2. These MMD sponsored Infesters in the party, I hope we could get rid of them pretty soon. People don’t realise how powerful and strong a brand our president is. Mr Sata is the only true icon and banner of the opposition. Without Sata, the opposition in Zambia would be dead and everybody knows that. And why waste party money on a convention whose outcome is obvious. Do these people surely believe that if they went to the convention they will defeat Sata, and if they stood with RB in 2011 they will defeat RB? Don’t be fooled RB is standing in 2011 and if you field any of these so called young whatever, they will be mauled or decimated by MMD. You need to understand Zed politics. Look at what has happened to HH? UPND is just a southern Province tribal or Tonga party.

  3. 4&5 look at how dynamic party leadership is in the west and you will appreciate that whether there is MMD at work or not, things have to change at the helm of PF. 3 election losses and nothing to show is too much to stomach!

  4. Heheheheheheh …. makes me laugh, how many times have we asked when PF will have an elected leadership and not that self-imposed leadership.And this will definately make MMD smile … laugh, I’m laughing and I’m NOT MMD.

  5. # 4 even if you don’t like HH or UPND but you muust stand for principles. Would you agree that Banda should not be subjected to an MMD convetion but stand on MMD ticket in 2011 without going to the convetion. All people want is to have democratic principles adhered to whether UPND is a tonga party or not. I life it is better to stand on principles than convinience

  6. i would support Lubinda for presidency. i think the guy is loyal and deserves a chance to lead the party. sata is reallly too old to continue rulling the party or to rule zed.

  7. LT is this the only news you can get from Times of Zambia? Please just give us the pictures of the weekend. Thanks

  8. #7 Wake up my dear and smell the coffee ..this is not the west , this is Zambia. You need to understand Zambia politics. Last week there was a story on this blog about Kafue keep clean campaign. You just don’t take refuse bins and give them to people in Kafue and expect them to use them for trash just because that is how they are used in the West. They will use the bins for water and mealie meal storage. There is a big lesson in that especially for you people like you who like just copying anything from the west. Zambia politics need zambian politics solutions. We might as well make the Queen our head of state instead of wasting time copying everything from the west..get colonised again

  9. #4 you should also understand that Sata came to the scene after Mazoka died. If Mazoka did not die in 2006 nobody was going to be mentining Sata. Even today if Sata left politics HH will be a sure fronnt runner. Lastly nothing goes forever. I learnt Sata in grade 7 civics and today I stand a chance to compete with him, how rediculous is that. The world has changed. When Obama says America needs to an education system that will make america children competetive in the 21st century he means it. Over time things change and even the most dynamic leaders can’t just keep up with pace as young people would do. Otherwise we might have KK for president

  10. #13 the problem with you is that you want to have it both ways. If you want democracy then embrace it. if you want a monarch then let us get our chiefs to run their kingdoms and forget about democracy. Democracy was not impossed on us we chose that route. In middle east there is no democracy because they have refused we have that option also. What makes you think that Sata will refuse to hold elections at party level but allow it at national level. we all know what sata did when he was mmd national secretary, 22 mps were expelled for championing democracy in the party. sata’s resistance of democracy is something that he has been associated with for a long time now and i doubt if he will ever allow elections if he president of zambia

  11. Unintelligent MMD party cadres are always caught napping, with Levy, he died in Egypt but months’ later they were still of the illusion he was still alive. In terms of impeachment, Banda is history but watch how many of them still believes Nyama Soya is the real deal?

  12. As for PF, I think William Harrington is one of their viable salvations, for the country too. He’s a bloke you can count on to cut all this cancer of “nchekela ko nullity Siliya” that has for years eaten away at the fabric of this nation.

  13. Chitala Derrick campaigned for Banda but Nyama Soya ditched the Fwanya lipped snake faster than a condom once discovered to be broken in the inside! On that I’m with RB, good.

  14. MMD sponsored or not.Thats just the truth.Sata’s days are long gone whether you like it or not.Yes Sata is a force to reckon with in the opposition but for the Presidency NO! Let the old man rest

  15. #5 you have got it wrong,am PF ardent follower.I have been a party member from its inception.All we are saying is,’time has come for a rotation’.Would you say the party is strong depending on one person?He has done alot, no one can dispute that,but the age is now a concern.

  16. #13 I understand Zed politics very well and I am not, as you suggest, an apologist for western politics. I also see that you are a true PF cadre – thus you allegience and being pricky to anything given as advise about one Mr. Sata. One question for your allegience – why is your presido not going for conventions? It is now a staple in Zambian politics, is that also copying from the west? Dynamism, whether copied or not, is good for your stomach – I am told – not 3 losses same face!

  17. Let national convention to go aheard and new leaders should be elected.If Sata bounces back the better.It should not be a one man show.

  18. People of Zambia just the other day you were complaining that RB has failed to run this country, and that you wanted change. Change indeed, do you think there will be change in 2011 with this kind of altitude? you say you want a young and fresh in mind person, in your in own eys you think HH is ? then think twice. This country needs change in the way we think and understand not just copying from western countries, you keep on mentioning Obama , yes he is one man with principles but do see one here in Zambia?

  19. People of Zambia just the other day you were complaining that RB has failed to run this country, and that you wanted change. Change indeed, do you think there will be change in 2011 with this kind of altitude? you say you want a young and fresh in mind person, in your in own eys you think HH is ? then think twice. This country needs change in the way we think and understand not just copying from western countries, you keep on mentioning Obama , yes he is one man with principles but do u see one here in Zambia?

  20. PF. is stagnant,the boat is failing to move forward.The remedy is national convention.Look for money for convention than demanding for early GENERAL ELECTION.PF put your house inorder.

  21. Long overdue issue in PF.Sata show us that PF is not a personal to holder party by holding a convention so that members can choose their leaders

  22. Sata,Lubinda,Dr.Guy………..democracy should start from PF and for us to have confidence in the vibrant party.Failure to hold PF.convention will send wrong signals to us

  23. Failure to hold PF most demanded national convention puts,the PF party out of the race in 2011.Sata,Lubinda,Dr.Guy,why do you want to hold to the helm of power……..?The will of the people should prevail.

  24. The call is justified. PF should hold a convention without fail. Or maybe he wants to be at the helm till Jesus comes!

  25. Is it only women who want change in PF?The picture shows women in front.Men are taking a backbench battle front.PF cadres(men) i like your strategy,but do not show us your chamelon colours. Men are scared to be sorted out,it remains ……………alot of King Cobra(SATA) threats to his party members.

  26. Sata boyi, if you play a game and lose three consecutive times, the game wins. Hands down, elections have won you. and personally I think you are way too ugly to represent us in any capacity.

  27. The Holy Scriptures record that you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free, I am glad that PF people starting from Lusaka’s Mandevu to now the Copperbelt are acknowledging ”
    Mr Bwalya said the PF was the only party which did not hold elections”. PF/Undereducate/Sata is a very undemocratic political party and this fact is a menace to Zambian politics. In light of this, I am humbly calling for the Undereducate Michael C Sata to disband PF and join the UPND as a cadre so that we have one strong opposition in the name of rebranded UPND Team to go against the MMD in the 2011 elections after they hold a convention in 2011 just before the country elections are held.

  28. PF = Sata. Mugabe = Sata. Sata is a dictator only death will stop him from being a PF party president, as long as sata is PF president i can never risk my vote on PF, we all know who sata is but its like some people have short memories.

  29. Amazing how UPND cadres get their tails up in the air when a PF story comes up. If I were them I should be celebrating if PF doesn`t hold a convention because those should be basis for convincing people to join UPND. But, we know people would rather vote for MMD than like some one has said that Tonga party. This is reason MMD have sponsered these miserable people to cause confusion.

    All this will do is lure some more cadres to MMD. Seriously I wouldn`t vote for a Tonga party. As long as UPND sees wrongs in PF but not ready to merge, MMD will be in power for another term. Good thinking MMD.

  30. On “Mr Lubinda said it was, however, important that as members campaigned for their preferred candidates, they did not engage in character assassination“, nkani yalula bo-Lubinda Given. This is why protecting your integrity is good to be done all the time.

    As for ““In a democratic party like ours, what matters is the majority“, what democracy is in PF? Does bo-Lubinda think that we are young kids or easily cheated?

    Following “They can go ahead and campaign, but they should not insult others. No-one will stop them,” he said”, I am with him bo-Lubinda 100%. PF is well known for insulting due to their Leader is takes pride in insulting other Zambian politicians especially our President and the MMD senior members.

  31. CYCLE MATA THE OLD OUT-DATED FEDERAL POLITICIAN SHOULD RETIRE. NO MORE RECYCLED POLITICIANS. THE PORTRAIT MIGHT SCARE INVESTORS

  32. Does Sata,have advisers?Given Lubinda,Dr.Scott,Mumbi Phiri,Mandevu M.P……..do the right thing you can …….people have spoken.You do not expect the outsider to come and clean up the mence in PF.When Dr.Chishimba wanted to show democracy in PF alot of name calling……Show us the way forward…………………….A big fire has egulfed PF

  33. Long live MMD. Viva RB. Lesser devil obviously. I hope this continues until 2011. Same pattern again Zambia shall see.

  34. Personally I would like to see the PF hold a convention at which learders would be elected with a mandate from their members. But suggesting that Saviour Chishimba can lead a political party and later on a Country is a lauphable idea. I have nothing against the man, infact he is a personal friend of mine, we went to school together from grade 10 to 12. I know he is ok as an MP and maybe minister but not the presidency. I mean, all of you supporting him should begin with checking his background, he is a guy proudly calls himself Dr. without completing any college education, a man who made a little money through questionable means. Talk about Given Lubinda, you will have my support because he has proven his worth in Zambian Politics. For now, without Sata, there is no opposition in Zambia.

  35. OnPF member, Felix Bwalya, said in a statement in Ndola yesterday that the youth on the Copperbelt were floating Chishimba Kambwili and Saviour Chishimba for the party presidency because of their positive vision for the party, I am also in support of Dr Saviour Chishimba for PF president in a case that PF/Undereducate/Sata do/es not want to join the UPND.
    Dr Saviour Chishimba is well educated to carry on from the Undereducate though his would be at the helm of PF will take about 10 years before PF can manage to make significant impact on the Zambian political scene to win presidential elections hopefully.
    As for Mr Kambwili, I do not know him and so I need more time to get to grips with his CV.
    In all, Zambians have a choice to from elected political party leaders.

  36. Watching and reading the comments …wonders never cease about the political scene of the good Zambia

  37. Sata like power too much, he is still the same sata who campaigned for Chiluba’s third term, incase you (PF cadres) have forgoten.

  38. #45
    Stop kidding,who told you that without Sata,there is not opposition in Zambia.Late Mazoko,late Dean Mungomba the opposition is still there.Check yourself…………

  39. Thank you Mr.Bwalya for coming out on Sata and having the courage to call a spase ,a spade .Its natural for PF die-hards(and not progressives like you) to accuse you of aligning with MMD just coz you have spoken your heart out.I can liken PF die-hards to some Russians who still think only Putin can rule Russia and are incapable of independent decisions.I wish you good luck in making PF more attractive and appealing to Zambians.

  40. PF, let democracy prevail in the party please! Am sure ba shikulu does even want to hear the word convetion in his hears, with him its Sata wamuyaya!!!

  41. Nice to see two useless opposition parties going for ech others throat. I hope my president has his feet up on the kouch knowing the job has been done. UPND is rubbish, PF can only win in urban areas. Roll on 2011.

  42. Looking at that picture there i even think of Danny’s song ati
    Yamakwela Yamakwela matempa mulife Akazi Yamakwela Yamakwela uka lakinga LOL ba cheif ati you should have a minimum of 10 children in the article awe sure

  43. #4True PF Cadre says:
    May 4, 2009 at 9:16 amThese MMD sponsored Infesters in the party, I hope we could get rid of them pretty soon. People don’t realise how powerful and strong a brand our president is. Mr Sata is the only true icon and banner of the opposition. Without Sata, the opposition in Zambia would be dead and everybody knows that. And why waste party money on a convention whose outcome is obvious. Do these people surely believe that if they went to the convention they will defeat Sata, and if they stood with RB in 2011 they will defeat RB? Don’t be fooled RB is standing in 2011 .YES ITS AN MMD PLOY. THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE 2 MEN VZ HH AND MCS WHO CA EFFECTIVELY CHALLENGE THEM. WAY FOWRD IS TO STRIKE A BALANCE BETWEEN THESE 2. PEOPLE BE WARY. FTJ HAS CREATED A LOT OF…

  44. I fear for my land when there is so much hate based on ignorance devoid of love , Bemba , Lozi,Tonga <Senga , Ngoni , Tumbuka etc (grouped as Nyanja) what we need is the true commitment to die for the land ,which is Zambia

  45. There is no democracy in Zambia,none of the political parties practice democracy,MMD intimidates or gets rid of some people to allow LPM, RB to take over,Tongas in UPND demand that only a Tonga can be president of their party.With PF, Sata old or not is the only real brand they have.Remember you copy cats that Gordon Brown is not an elected leader neither was Richard Nixon!! I think Chishimba can make a good and strong leader but he will need the snake to campaign for him at national level otherwise he will be regional like one HH.

  46. these characters sound like hired cadres.they’re are exposing saviour and kambwili to wrath of MCS.Such matters if not handled properly will just weaken pf.
    Yes a convention is long overdue.even then pf real cadres shud know sata is not a polititian yu can just throw out of the window like that.to the contrary pf – sata=upnd – mazoka in terms of performance.besides,sata as a founder of pf will not let anyone take over,let’s be realistic with our so called democracy esp in our zambian setting.it’s like yu want to fire dan pule from dunamis or imakando from bread of life,or indeed sakwiba from ulp….keep on dreaming pals,fo now pf=sata,anyone who strongly opposes him will join machungwa and the cohorts as rebel members.

  47. We told you your party would cramble. And all yo would say was ‘pabwato!!!!!’. Can you say ‘Pabwato!!! now? The strength of PF is Sata and without him PF is DEAD

  48. #57. Rubbish, have I told you which party I belong to? FYI don’t belong to any party second am entitled to my own opinion and please never cross my path, you are not Sata unless otherwise! you *&^%$#@!!!

  49. #49 & 53 I wonder who is exhbiting shallow thinking, me for expressing my views and you who’se views are bent on insulting others. The meaning of having opposition views to anything is to provide check and balances, it is not merely to wrestle power to those who have at any particular time. Now tell me of what Zambia would have become had it not been for Sata and his fearless comments on many of the misdeeds of the MMD gvts? I may not support the idea of him becoming president but there is no one in Zambian politics who beats him when it comes to providing objective checks even though his methods might not be so pleasant. Whether you like it or not, In African Politics, you need a firm and sometimes rough voice like Sata’s if you are to do anything tangible people are just too passive…

  50. Why are you promoting discrimination against old people? If you the useless Zambian youth can rise and be sensible the nation can listen to you.All the you have in Zambia for leaders are empty tins like,Lifwekelo,Bonny Tembo,Cosmo,Kelvin Sampa,Siulapwa etc.For as long as the youth remain docile and idle then just let the old continue.The youth are the first ones especially on this blog to shoot others down.Fr. Bwalya brave youth has been shot down several times by the youth on this blog. Surely Fr. Bwalya is far ahead of Cosmo and the other hustlers.The truth scares most of you,only brave to blog under fake names!!

  51. Do you see me worried? After all Sata is not a presidential material like it or not. This is a democratic country and certainly not dictatorship your love for Sata has blinded you so much that you can’t stand people calling for convention. All we need is democracy my friend.

  52. Sata has lost 3 elections or 2 elections ….. something is worng somewhere. Either the elections or the candidate. Time to frshen up PF … go to the convention and if Sata is elected to lead you (PF) in 2011 polls, Zambia will respect ur decision.

  53. You MMD since when have you ever held a civilised convention muleumfwako ne nsoni. Since the 1991 convension all you have done is window dressing. And you UPND we know what you did to Sakwiba and lateron to that guy who talked about holding a convention. We know that to kill a snake you have to hit on the head not so? So you want Sata out so that there is no competition. Those are not PF but sponsored meccenaries by MMD. The current Senegal Mr A. Wade is older than Sata and it took him many tries to unseat the L. S. Senghor created Dynasty. Those who dont want Michael can go and form their Party after he formed PF single handedly. You free to join MMD etc so dont destablise the only effective opposition we have in this country. Its like choosing a church, you are not forced.

  54. #64 Mulenga in New castle , I Really do have a fear for my Land ,the old have betrayed us , the old are selfish, the old are scared of the Shadow of their evening days , the old are demented …. the young shall rule but who is one , The Zambians will tell

    The young love the old for the work they did , we despise them for holding and not letting go to power

  55. #51 and 57 the issue here is about PF hold convention not a bout tonga land or the tonga pipo hence its important to address this issue as it is even when u dont like some tribe to rule but they shall rule come 2011 HH will your presido and u will be dancing for him at the airport as your custom…

  56. fo yo own info fellow bloggers,pa zed intra-party democracy is close to zero.E.G MMD 1996,2001,all those who opposed FTJKMC…Yu know what happened,things like birth of FDD,HP,PF and many other tunteba parties,besides …well will not go into details.
    So far. UPND in 2006 gave birth to ULP, and sending sichinga, a vibrant politician, into oblivion.ANC,am afraid, is the only party in the sub region that has proved that the incumbent can be taught a lesson not only at party level but also at nation front.

  57. My observation , the front liners are women in the pic above , indicating the power of women … smart organizer …the portrait not recognizable on the chitenge material… shade more lights

  58. RB it`s ours again. Roll on 2011. UPND for Tongas, Line of rail Sata and the rest is ours. Viva RB Viva MMD.

  59. #78 hehehehehehehehehehe In your dreams mate. Viva RB. I do not know why UPND cadres think if PF was not there then they would win. RB come 2011. I have to keep my job. I do not want to lose it to a Tonga boy. Another term guaranteed the way things are going. UPND and PF going for each others` throat.

  60. #52. I did not say he can’t exercise his right. I said I hate him coz of his colour which is not Zambia. Better RB or Mugabe that Given Lubinda

  61. 50, kambaila, well done on asking #45 to come to his senses. In fact the most strongest opposition party we have in Zambia right now is the might UPND under president HH with 22 loyal MPs in Parliament. PF has about 16 non-rebel MPs under the Undereducate MC Sata while others in PF not under the control of bashikulu MC Sata are about 30 and called rebel MPs .

    In light of this, only president HH is offering real CONSTRUCTIVE opposition to our MMD GRZ. The man HH has even been meeting with President RB Banda when it has been necessary while the Undereducate MC Sata is busy insulting President RB Banda as opposition in his way of understanding opposition from uneducated point of view.

    The behaviour of bashikulu Sata MC is synonymous with most PF cadres’ comments on LT.

  62. my friends lets us comment wisely not because we want to hurt the other the future is in our hands as youths.

  63. Evn if a convention is held who is tere to replace SATA . PF is daed without sata Kambwili does not meet the mark

  64. Zed politics are now bordering on “boring”. How can zedians allow perpetual presidential aspirants? People whose only goal is to be a president. Mpakafye. How long and how many times can the same people attempt presidency? Only in Zed. Have they got nothing else to pursue? Businesses, for example. Farming? Sata, Miyanda, even HH. They are all stale. Whats new? Banda is old. Where are the fresh brains. Should I return from outside the country, so you can start calling me a foreigner, and show a different approach? This country is headed for the dust bin. Uluse. Umwenso ene.

  65. #84. I am not a racist. In Zambia there is a stupidity where you can even allow Presidents to be foreigners coz of people like you. Can you even own a toilet where u are? Impoossible. But is Zambia first priority is foreigners. No wonder Zambia is 1000 years backward.

  66. 59, wiseman-reborn, please forget about the tribalists for all normal Zambians know them now. We as real Zambians with a passion to see our great nation develop economically will have to support our young leaders in the opposition and crash the old characters into leaving Zambian politics so that they will not come again.

    Come 2011 elections, a new Zambia should come through with vibrant young leaders. Viva Chishima Saviour (Doc.,?) in PF.

  67. #84. Have you read the constitution on who it classifies as a foreigner? Anyway, only in Zambia are brilliant minds sidelined on flimsy reasons.

  68. The uniqueness of Zambia and the citizenry lies in the trust for their leader, we have been betrayed , we have been cheated . All we need is a good Leader without a face of a Lozi, bemba, Nyanja, Tonga and the tribal association … But a good leader called Zambian form PF, MMD and UPND not an old person …

  69. Maestro , get facts right PF and UPND top slot are for Language affiliation , the resultant is tribal… PF and The new UPND are the same

  70. 99, wiseman-reborn, greetings and thanks for your sentiments. Whatever your opinion, I believe you are entitled to it, but reality will prove what real Zambians want in 2011. My concern has nothing to do with tribe or language affiliation but that Zambia needs educated leaders starting 2011 to steer it in the right developmental direction. Various people across the Nation have already indicated what they want and who they will vote for in 2011. I just hope President RB Banda will take the advice that his Zimbabwean school fees payer has told him. I will be grateful to President RB Banda if he will live to his campaign promises that the MMD and him only wanted to complete late former President LP Mwanawasa’s term so that young educated energetic Zambians will take the mantle.

  71. Well spoken maestro , All I long for , all I long up to , all I desire for Zambia is a true and genuine Leader not the Old with tribal affiliation ….

  72. You have started giving headache and sleepless night to Micheal Chilufya Sata.You are adding salt to a bleeding sore.Sata has just recovered from the elections he lost 2008.Anyway it is democracy!

  73. The opposition can never win an election. Sata cannot win the rural community to vote for him and now people in his own party are calling for a convention. Without Sata, the PF is as good as dead.

    THe UPND has been sinking under the leadership of the politics illiterate (if that’s even a word) Hakainde Hichilema. He cannot inspire the Zambian masses to vote for him not forgetting his track record concerning public service is non existent. He is a political lightweight and if the UPND is to have any chance at 2011, they must also hold a convention.

    The opposition parties have dug their own graves with one party calling for a convention and the other having a liability as the party president whereas the other only springs up when there is an election.

  74. #103 Free Market. Let them fight. Ine pe! Enjoying the fruit. The more they fight the better for my position. Kulilapo kaili. These guys will be fighting even in 2016. I like the political ILLITERATE in #103. If you look, HH has more votes on LT than he accrues when there is an election.. His followers on here want PF to join them, something I can never see happening. In the mean time MMD oyeeeee!

  75. Let us have more integrative and inductive thinking comments for the political development of Zambia….

  76. Comments made on here do not change anything. If they did UPND would have been in power by now.

  77. Zambia will never develop and will remain one of the poorest countries till Kingdom come…..who wants proof???? just read the the coments above and you will see that the majority of them are from I-D-I-O-T-S who, being learned, are supposed to be thinkers for Zambia but instead they have reduced themselves to a bunch cheap and pathetic tribalists who can see an issue for its merits or demerits except to go at each other with tribal attacks and self preservation bootlicking propaganda…..what a waste of space some people can be????.

  78. Oho! So one is not allowed to show his affiliation? Opinions are also not allowed. Yet one is talking about development. If I said I was UPND boot licker it would have been thumbs up. Thank you people of Zambia for voting my president. MMD for 2011. Viva.

  79. Power for the people so it is said .I leave it there…. never abuse , never exploit for the force of resistance is UN fathomed

  80. But all argued out above, bane Kambili for President? Kambwili, sure sure? That will be the day we will see a snake with bokosi.

  81. insubordination takes a centre stage as Patriotic Front (PF) officials and cadres in other towns ,paddles a different thread.

  82. I dont see anything wrong with holding a convention people are just fold of leting there emotions get in the way i little too early. You hve not even got response from the party leadership at happens at that convetions is another story that we can learn from lets not be afraid of the unknown.

  83. Has anyone noticed that in Zed when someone within the party speaks out they are said to be working with the opposition. The cadres or ministers or MMD party members speak out ati PF or trying to make a kantemba party, PF cadres etc ati sent by MMD. I am a young person and i dont like saying this out loud but in Zambia there is a certain age group that refuses to reason with facts becuse it is not them up there….

  84. I am sorry to say this , which i have said before attack . HH and the Snake ( will never rule ) their parties will participate in democracy…

  85. #70. Kelchi. LOL is an abreviation of LOUGH OUT LOUD, while LO is an interjection(date:before 12th century) used to draw attention or to express wonder or surprise.

  86. #122 are you sure lol means LOUGH OUT LOUD! Somebody tipped me as LOTS OF LOVE! Now its becoming tricky… Anyway whichever whatever goes for it, i guesse its in no care of anybody. After all we ve gonne out of topic!

  87. tongas said that only a Tonga will over from mazoka not sakwiba,chinsa,given,bob or other person.
    blogs what does that mean mwebantu pliz help me to understand that.
    the problems with this chaps they die at 30 en they be buried at 50.
    PFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFPFP.NANGU AKENDELE KUNKONTO.PANTU MWALIBA AMANO.HH KNWS EN SOON HE`L B PF.NO MONEY CAN KING COBRA BUFI.

  88. Tribalists stop blanketing all of us in your nonsense by the Undereducate’s rehabilitating mouthpiece. A convention was held and the other characters lost clean game to president HH. The might UPND will be holding its convention before the 2011 country tripartite elections to elect the next leaders to lead the party till 2016 as it is a democratic party. For now president HH has to complete the mandate UPND cadres gave him in 2006 which will only end in 2011 as his first term of office. He may then be elected for another term as UPND president or give way to another person who will be elected then – when the time will be ripe.
    As for PF an undemocratic party since its inception out of bitterness in 2001, it has never held any party elections and I hope it will yield to people’s want.

  89. Its obviusly the weakest side of Mr Sata. However, this talk appears to be fueled by the MMD. If he decides to do it (he has to before 2011, becuse the pressure will kep mounting), it will provide good drama in the nation. MMD wii field a candidate for all the positions, some will win. Its easy, remeber PF has no IDs(so called party cards)

  90. I was not going to post any comment on this topic, but for the sake of showing that good men do not sit back any more; here goes. There is nothing wrong with having a convention, infact all these parties in Zambia have too, because they belong to s the people. Secondly why does it always have to be some and I emphasise some Tongas and Bembas always initiating tribalism. We are all Zambians, it would be a shame if the rest of us in the remaining 71 tribes decided to exclude both these tribes from national development. We shall not do a thing of that evil in nature, so could someone upgrade their party or form another that shall listen to the cries of the people. One Zambia under God is what we stand for, so let us fight for the betterment of our nation; which can one day pour out to our

  91. The best way to summarise this topic is that PF is second hand or salaula material political party from MMD . In fact PF under the Undereducate is a third-hand material political party from UNIP and later MMD. If we as Zambians are to go much deeper, is it possible to find out that PF under the Undereducate MC Sata is a fourth-hand (salaula) material political party from ANC, then UNIP and later MMD.

    Salaula, salaula, salaula maayo …. I now comprehend why ba-Kaponya like voting for PF for most of them are used to Salaula material.

    The only brand new or cha-new is the mighty UPND political party.

    Have a great day.

  92. Bembas are the ones who are tribal and the voting pattern in 2001 will attest to that. when Mazoka was clearly the better candidate they did not vote for him purely on tribal lines. They used to say that if Mazoka wins cattle will be on the streets of lusaka and for that reason they did not vote for him

  93. HOW SAD THAT WE STILL HAVE FUNCTIONAL ILLITERATE ZAMBIANS IN THE DIASPORA LIKE #37, WHO CANT SEE BEYOND BARE BUTTOCKS OF A NAKED IMPALA! YOUR PREOCCUPATION FOR TRIBE PRESIDENCY IS A RECIPE FOR RETROGRESSION. I GUESS ITS GOOD RIDDANCE THAT YOU ARE OUT OF THE FACE OF MOTHER ZAMBIA FOR NOW BECAUSE YOUR CALIBRE IS ENDEMIC OF CONFUSION! KEEP WELL IN THE DIASPORA. ZAMBIA IS FOR ZAMBIANS. CONTRIBUTE BENIGNLY AND DO NOT PROVE THE GOOD SPIRIT OF ZAMBIANS, B LOGGERS SERIOUS FOR ANSWERS TO ZAMBIA’S PROBLEMS. AVOID THE ARROGANCE STREAK, ITS A CANCER! QUALITY AND NOT TRIBE MY DEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  94. Some of you people never cease to amuse me…your contributions are always nothing but trash to say the least…it does not matter to you who rules whether a fool, riding a boat or not provided he comes from your province. I wonder when on earth will us Zambians be objective, get out of the box and start thinking rationally for the sake of the country…

    Yes, the cadres are tired of Sata because he will never win, so why not usher into office fresh people with fresh brains not the same old Sata from the Unip era and you expect him to bring in new ideas..c’mon guys think?

  95. I have heard that the PF is actually going to have a convention late this year. My own observations is most of the bloggers, particularly Maestro HeHe, seem to be virulently anti-PF and Sata, But any objective analysis still reveals that PF and Sata command massive following.. Hate him or like him, Sata is a charismatic and iconic figure for the majority of the people in this country. The MMD knows this very well. Their strategy is therefore clearly to get rid of or destroy Sata and thus weaken PF. The MMD are more worried about the PF than the UPND. Haven’t you noticed that the MMD rarely attacks the UPND or HH?

  96. this goes to chaps who claim to be educated for there families benefits.UPND was formed in way back before PF under my grand pa chilufya en it has done a lot up to now,growing at all angles including western province and not southern.its so immature of you claiming to educated bear no wisdom sorry.UPND will continue shrinking antil we forget about it.well cum William Harrington in PF en not UPND.continue insulting SATA.for your own information HH is on his way to joining sata.to hung tongas we don`t need your vote,in fact its you who need BEMBA.fullstops

  97. MAESTRO HEHH. SATA IS A FACTOR IN ZAMBIAN POLITICS. HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR REGIONALISM HE COULD HAVE EASILY BEATEN RUPIAH WHO HAD ONLY 34,000 MORE. IMAGINE 4 PROVINCES REJECTED SATA ON ACCOUNT OF HIM BEING A BEMBA BUT LOST BY A MERE 34K TO SOME ONE WHO HAD ALL THE RESOURCES. WHAT YOU NEED COMRADE IS TO ENSURE UPND AND PF COME TO SOME PEACEFUL AND CORDIAL AGREEMENT HOW WE CAN GET RID OF THIS FRANKEISTAN CALLED MMD WHICH WE CREATED OURSELVES.

  98. 136 Max greetings, on your “ My own observations is most of the bloggers, particularly Maestro HeHe, seem to be virulently anti-PF and Sata“, I believe that I have been very clear that I supported the educated and principle PF people like MP Chishimba (Doc., ?). Do you read properly or have you challenges in understandng English? Come on, check my writings above and appreciate truth man!

  99. 137, continue with your “continue insulting SATA.for your own information HH is on his way to joining sata.to hung tongas we don`t need your vote,in fact its you who need BEMBA.fullstops” and you will be shocked in 2011 to see nice results for the UPND Team.

  100. 138 Deja Vu, with all due respect, following your “MAESTRO HEHH. SATA IS A FACTOR IN ZAMBIAN POLITICS…. WHAT YOU NEED COMRADE IS TO ENSURE UPND AND PF COME TO SOME PEACEFUL AND CORDIAL AGREEMENT HOW WE CAN GET RID OF THIS FRANKEISTAN CALLED MMD WHICH WE CREATED OURSELVES.“I have been proposing a working solution for a long time that the Undereducate bashikulu Michael C. Sata must disband PF and join the UPND as a cadre so that he could srand for UPND Chairman unoppsed when the UPND will conduct its CONVENTION just before the 2011 tripartite country elections.

    The rest of UPND positions will have to be filled in by voting for the candidates who will stand and MP candidates fielded based upon preliminary elections. This is the only winning combination to remove MMD.

  101. Here is how some has described being mad: Trying the same thing all over expecting a different result. Isn’t this perfectly fitting for SATA. He has lost five times and he expects a different result each time. But, truly speaking let him continue trying just for the fun of proving his madness.

  102. SATA has become so funny that even his own cadres are doubting him aha! When did we ever hear about such a thing happening to his support base? This is the begining of the end, but not yet. We cant afford to misout of free drama. Whoelse as a fully grown Adult has capacity to climb a bathtub in full view of the public at noon day sun? My goodness, we cant afford to mis this kind of drama. I say let him continue.

  103. A Sata kodi aopa chani? Afunika akachite convention, when he wins he also wins legitimacy. For me as an undecided voter, how can I trust someone who seems to fear democracy in his own backyard? It really is simple PR – have a convention as it will strengthen your hand.

  104. Maestro MfeMweMfwe is a sekf-confessed tribalist and Bemba hater (Whatever they did to him) Anyway PF should consider replacing the old man coz 2011 will not be for guys using walking sticks. Given wouldnt be a bad replacement especially with the PF-UPND merger

  105. Rocket Scientist Maestro Hhehhehhehhe - ndeezwa ku-musanza for Zambians in the 2011 tripartite National elections Rocket Scientist Maestro Hhehhehhehhe - ndeezwa ku-musanza for Zambians in the 2011 tripartite National elections

    146 LIAR Ba Dr Maureencan you prove by quoting my own words on your “Maestro MfeMweMfwe is a sekf-confessed tribalist and Bemba hater (Whatever they did to him)”. Otherwise, your are a LIAR.

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