THE Government has said nurses from neighbouring Zimbabwe are ready to work in Zambia on local conditions of service and made a final appeal for health workers to call off their strike or lose employment.
Chief Government spokesperson, Ronnie Shikapwasha said in an interview in Kabwe yesterday that the Government would not allow a situation where people continued to die as a result of the strike by the nurses.
Lieutenant-General Shikapwasha maintained that nurses who would not report back for work today should consider themselves fired and new ones will be recruited.
“There are Zimbabwean nurses itching to come and work in Zambia and so nurses that will not report back for work today should consider themselves fired. We shall replace them with those that retired as well these from Zimbabwe.
“It is immoral and against the oath of allegiance that nurses take when being employed to continue to be on strike when people are dying in large numbers because of their action. The Government is ready to discuss with the nurses once they resume work,” he said.
Labour and Social Security Minister Austin Liato said in a separate interview yesterday that the Government would guarantee security to all nurses who would return to work as agreed by the Government and union leaders.
“There is no need for nurses to fear that they will be picketed by anyone. And let me warn those that will attempt to disturb their colleagues that they will face the wrath of the law,” he said.
This assurance comes in the wake of Health Minister Kapembwa Simbao’s ultimatum for the nurses to return to work today or be dismissed.
Mr Liato advised all the nurses to seriously reflect on their action to stay away from work because that had caused anguish to the sick who required their services.
He said the nurses should consider returning to work and serve the country because it was better to keep a job than losing it, especially at this time of the global economic recession.
He said that losing a job as a result of an illegal strike would impact on the nurses’ future especially that the Government had not refused to attend to their demands.
He said what the Government wanted was to follow the law and that there was no way it could discuss issues with people who were on the street.[quote]
The minister said the Government was not expected to act on nurses’ demands through public acclamation but through roundtable discussions.
A check at the University Teaching Hospital revealed that several nurses had not returned to work and security personnel were only allowing emergency cases to enter the institution.
Meanwhile, the MMD in Kitwe has challenged the opposition to help convince striking health workers return to work because their Members of Parliament (MPs) were part of the decision to award public service workers a 15 per cent salary increment.
MMD district vice-treasurer, Gideon Kamponge, said it was unfair for the opposition to blame the ruling party for the continued strike by nurses because MPs collectively awarded civil servants the 15 per cent salary increment which the nurses were protesting against.
Mr Kamponge said in an interview in Kitwe yesterday that the MPs had approved an 11 per cent salary increment for civil servants during the Budget approval in Parliament, but the Government decided to make it 15 per cent.
[Times of Zambia]
Rubbish! Will this man ever say anything sensible?
Nonsense,mind u today is monday,fire and hire nurses.We see!!!
This Man’s Mouth will bring problems in our Country which government will have problems to settle..why is he using Zimbambweans for their propaganda when every one know that thats whe his master is has roots…the Monkey should also visit him like like our presido en Defence Minister Mpombo…..
shikapwasha dont be funny… u r feeding ur family on tax payers money dont become big headed…
or maybe its because RB is a zimbabwean??!
Which Zimbabwe we chinwa we?
Seems MONKEYS r performing wonders on these govt officials.1st peeid on RB n da 2nd drowned Mpombo..Hw wonderful,these monkeys deserve a pallet of Bananas each n space in Guiness Book of World records….
This man will neva say anything sensible mushindo wake, does he know what we are going thru?
Please nurses stick to your ground,he is bluffing.Which nurse would want to work in aplace where you are even failing to feed yourself,pay rentals and send children to school.Which ZIM would like to get 200k as housing allowance.Alebepafye,unless Nyamaz brings his cousins and makes a special package for them,otherwise ni boza
senseless
This is the worst ever GRZ Zed has had and will ever have. Our leaders are deviod of the least form of leadership. You dont threaten your own household and make a preference for your neighbours. That trick will backfire in Ronnie’s face. By the way, Mpombo had a monket chase him and he fell in a pool. Now, thats rather a mouthful for the monkeys. They have voiced their disgust enough at this leadership. Shame on Ronnie! Shame in RB and shame on the MMD!!
MMD, will loss it’s ground like never b4, even rigging will not work this time will bring the Talibanistic
This is the worst measure to this problem the Government can come with. Shikapwasha is not even ashamed of himself to say this, it is clear these chaps have failed us. what are we doing to remove them from power?
whats the story on mpombo? was he pised on as well.and these same Zimbambwans were are they going to be livng we do not want a zinofhobia
These people do not think, so R Banda created this scenario so as to employ his Zimbabwean relative. They have to be careful, Zambia is not a peace foundation to by taking the peace we have for granted. One day and very soon something drastic will happen to these empty headed people.
Its just not real and cannot happen the governments priority is to take care of its citzens it not possiblt to fire all the nurses in the country and then hire those from Zimababwe this is just a scare. Already Zambia faces a shortage of health personel.This guy is just bluffying to scare the health personel. Even the international community would blame the government for firing any of the workers(nurses).Lets see what happens
utter rubbish!
why should our people be intimidated by cheap labour????? Whats wrong with our government??? i thought people have the right to fight for their rights. What has gone wrong with our leaders. Please allow people to speak out and fight for their rights, give them what they deserve and not just threaten them with cheap labour. Those zim nurses should just volunteer to work in Zim. God help RB
Chika..pwasha ala you are the most useless spokes man on earth. You are threatening helpless nurses….K30,000 night allowance per month!!! hell NO! you must be out of your mind!! USE YOUR HEAD TO THINK NOT any other parts… Chi Chikapwasha!!
Ine Akanwa Open Nafilwa Nukwisala AAAHHHH
Abepelefye! How many Zim. nurses can fill our hospitals? Govt please get down to the negotiation table, and sort this mess like grown ups..
yangu
Selectively fire them and bring in willing retirees and mandatory all Military serving medics to fill in.Where very short supplement some willing SADC member country country medics.The essence of Custom unions to create labor migration, capital and trade.Systematically fire them on a selective basis. If anything data is that most of these in make Zambia ungovernable conspiracy are self defranchised voters.They have never registered to vote and will not alter anything. Let them go serve in the insulting and fantasing army of Haka-Sata joint Presidency.They have not been reporting for more than 10 days meaning they have breached the civil service standing orders grounds for extermination.Don’t pay them for the lost time.Orgainse their benefits and hire more patriotic Zambians
Useless Shikapwasha. Efyo wingalandafye ifyo fine.
PLEASE TALK SENSE NOT MALABISHI IWE SHIKAPWASHA
Kwena am lost for words its like running ekantemba
A country cannot commit 60% of its revenue to wages when there other sectors of pressing national interest too.Call retires now, bring in all trained military medics retired or active duty from the military establishment.Simultaneously make mass recruitment of school levers for ZEN and RN training.To hell with these political nurses.Keep only patriotic nurses among them. You know better who have recruited in the make Zambia ungovernable. Let see if that project will pay them a living wage.The lives of Zambians is more important that pleading with politicized cadres in nursing uniform.
Mr. Shikapwasha sir, i would advise that you sit down for nute and unerstand what u are saying because it seems like u havent given thought t that. Firstly Zambia has enough skilled man power to handle the health sector. it is u leaders that are causing confusion. Secondly who needs the Zimbabweans but themselves. DOnt think that because we do not get gratuity then we are sensless morons that can be thrown trash at NO!!! Why dont u as a christian ensure the needs of others are met before yours are. If you a TRUE Ambassodor of Christ then show us your color. Pay the nurses! Their cry is genuine. Umushona alenjikata amatoko pakulasa inyeleti? UTTER NONSENSE least to say!!!! U HAVE FAILED US AS ‘leader’. We have been covered with a cloud of shame as citizens.
What is wrong with RB and his Wolves? Why are they intimidating the innocent nurses? why arent they paying attention to the masses out there who are right now lying helpless in hospital whose only thing in their minds is death? Just what have we done as a nation o deserve this? Why did God give us this selfish, greedy, uncaring man as our president?May God heal this Land!
Full all stupidty with all that broad smile.RB and his company are indeed useless.They seem to want to sell Zed to Zim?Please dear voters,let your vote count come 2010.
#22 niwebo shikapwasha????? lets respect humanity and needs of people. Umuntu ngali comfortable wpuld not go on strike. We need to help and not talk ama rubbish whilst supporting ifyabupuba.
Ronnie you are out of sense now, i dont think it was wise for you to say this.
This shika Fimo Fimo is just scare mongering, he just wants to see what the nurses willdo , instead of reching a agreement , he resorts to dirty tricks, Rubbish.
he doesnt mean it nayimwe..its just a way to get those hoes back to work..
#26, do you have a soul? i doubt it! Is it because you use the tax payer’s money to pay fpr ypy medical bill in S.A?? You ought to be ashamed pf yourself! This country will never develop as along as we have the likes of you living!!!
#26, do you have a soul? i doubt it! Is it because you use the tax payer’s money to pay for your medical bills in S.A?? You ought to be ashamed of yourself! This country will never develop as along as we have the likes of you living!!!
and that your version of dialogue, foolish
#22 EASY EASY EASY where art thou you muppet, its been long. Back to the story, you just like your boss shikapwasha you have’ve never uttered anything sensible ever since you started posting on this blog . You behave like you joined at the hip with MMD, do you really think Shika is serious with his threats. If your party had balls to implement the threats, that would be the end of you and your friend senior citizen at enbassy in NY. So lets just say Shika is bluffing, issuing empty threats shinkamanyela.
Yah…This man is not sensible. he thinks he is still in the air force. It is a shame.
But this government, I have no words!
Ba spokesman basamwa!…. . You don’t own the country mind you.
number 26..eya! ni apopene ..uli pa pointi! nice one.. thats why i call these nurses hoes! they only want to be where the money is! people have a right to work anywhere they feel like..so if zimbabweans wanna come here coz “high class” zambian nurses dont wanna work, then let them come and work after all you same zambians are causing southafrica and even far off places such as UK by goin to work there as nurses..this will be an eye opener for zambian nurses..
Maybe we actually need the the Zimbabwean Administration rather than nurses!
this is not part of anything but i think shikapwasha looks like he likingz too much nthwenu hahaha
Esther,
You natural waning doll, where have seen a country developing with its 60% revenue going to wage bill? This rubbish of holding Zambian live at gun point must be punished.Let GRZ recall retirees, military medics and open up to recruit SADC member countries nurses willing to serve.This is not the first time this has happen.Under Sata at MoH, the sucker with sub 2 education fired medical doctors when the demanded for improved conditions not nurses.They later recruited Cuban Doctors from Cuba.Infact he had even ordered machetes for them until Chiluba removed him from MoH.
I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS
Sometimes I wish we had the likes of Kagame or Nkunda to take care of these f%%S.
Go ahead and fire them if you dare.
Maweee…… Koma this chi man’s mouth stinks, wat do you use for reasoning kanshi? Esha ukabatamfya tumone eko tulefika. NONSENSE.
Foolish!.You bastards are selling our Country.This is subotarge,and treason.If Shakapwasha indeed swore to defend Zambian people,then they have failed and should resign.
And one thing you and you gov should not forget is that Zim nurses will not vote come 2011, the same nurses you want to fire are the ones that will cast their votes come 2011. So come 2011 you are jobless SIR. I rest my case.
I dont think this is a good way to solve this problem Shika fimo fimo, you as a minister must come up with ways to resolve this . Please dont forget that with every silly word that comes out of your mouth, a patient is dead. Please stop wasting time and do your job.
I am truely saddened by such utterances from this kapwasha. The amount of time and financial requirments to successfully recruit those nurses he is talking about will in the end come to be the same as giving the nurses what they want. Remember in the civil service you dont just hand pick workers the way you pick party cadres from markets or tarvens, there are processes and rues that need to be followed. Does he want our Health institutions to be littered with unqualified people. What will stop zambabbweans not qualified to mascared as nurses. Please, please stop that rot, Negotiate with the Health workers, once they see the committment in Govt they will understand. They are human beings, they love their country but they have been taken for a ride for too long.
amuna which country are u in and what are u doing? you should learn that if you adopt free market liberal policies and join any such organisations follwing such principles then you should be ready to accept foreign workers.. you see zambians are used to be being so poor that we have always been the ones moving to other countries and so when a poorer country than us has now emerged we want to behave like we dont follow greeer pastures aswell.. of course the way shikapwasha said it is a bit harsh on the nurses but hey life has to move on..you cant put a figure on ones life ,people are dying.. let the zimbabweans come in and serve us
Things are improving in Zimbabwe, if we do not pull up our socks we will have Zambias trekking to Zimbabwe for greener pastures. Ba Rev Shikapwasha bringing Zimbabwean nurses is not the solution, can you please look into the plight of government workers?
which man of God are you?have you forgotten how you got sick to the point of death?God did not save you for such rubbish sit and think why God gave you more days instead of wasting the days.you need help as quick as possible
Wow, the capacity for this government to sink ever so low is astounding. This is the dumbest idea I have heard from any government but it really need not be all that surprising. What is surprising is that Zambians are sitting by and watching these fools ridicule them day in and day out. I say wake up and not wait for 2011. Kick these morons out now because waiting for 2011, there will be non left to save. We have precedence, KK was compelled to call an early election which saw him out of office. FTJ was whipped into shape to curtail his 3rd term nonsense. Surely, we cannot fail to force this buffoon to resign and never ever let him near the seat of power again.
Pungwe,
You unholy faceless liar without conscious to utter nonsense in public domain, stop the rubbish talk.Increase wages off the budget would be permanent while recruitment will come with a fixed cost.You hire employees on a fixed budget.So how would it be the same?Where did you do your basic managerial accounting or economic of labor?
number 42 you are a FOOL and you only have one sense for eating.Mr chikapwasha which man of God are you?have you forgotten how you got sick to the point of death?God did not save you for such rubbish sit and think why God gave you more days instead of wasting the days.you need help as quick as possible
Zim nurses will bring the Xenophobia in zambia
Imagine these pipo hired 4 buses full of Zimbawean Nurses. They have arrived in Zambia and this has angered our Nurses so much that they have vowed not to return to work. RB wants to start taking care of his relatives in Zimbabwe.
# 55Wisi Boyi-
You unholy faceless liar without conscious to utter nonsense in public domain, you do not retire Government without alternative.There is no alternative in Zambia to hold the country forward.
Ba Shika, its very sad that you can come up with such a stupid idea, have a heart ans put your self in thier shoes, work as a nurse for one year , for the same pay and see of you can survive.
Think Before,
I will let you business types figure out the Kwacha & Ngwee issues. However, I question the practicality and logistical management of this option. Where will the Zim nurses be housed? Who will be responsible for their transportation to Zed? What time line are we looking at? By the time the Zim nurses are settled in, it may end up costing even more than the 15% that the local nurses are asking for. We can argue back and forth about the economics of doing this or that but the real issue is that we are dealing with a government that does not care about the people it purports to lead.
MONKEYS are going to oust MMD. ZAMBIA SHALL BE SAVED
Think Before,
Zambia would probably not do any worse without a government. Plus, if you had taken the time to read my post, you would have seen I was talking about replacing the *****s currently running the affairs of the nation. I wonder why you seem so keen on defending the indefensible.
Most of you F.O.O.L.S here ranting the loudest are where you are hiding as illegals yet you are working for those minimum wage jobs.Why don’t you want SADC member country labor force to fill in slot to be left by those politicized cadres serving as nurses but after making Zambia ungovernable.They are supporting a project they have little idea about.I can point at coyotes(illegals) here to prove my statement.
Iwe chi # 23,27 & 45.I can’t believe we ‘ve got chaps who think like you, if you ‘re a beneficially of tax payers money to pay your medical bills and a windfall of gratuity, sit back and wait coz your days are numbered. Come 2011 you are out. Uli chipuba sana. For fakset.
GRZ will not be able to protect the Zim nurses. Like someone above said, this will lead to war against Zimbabweans in general … it is not a well thought out solution to a straight forward issue.
this reverand is sick a one does he hear what he says….? i wonder what he preaches on sundays.
NUMBER 57 Jatica, U ARE AN EMOTIONAL FOOL..I BET U ARE A WOMAN EVEN!SO I WONT BLAME YOUR MENSTRUAL LINE OF THINKING.. SO WHAT IF THE CHAP WAS SICK.? WE ARE LOOKING AT A CRISIS HERE..DO U HAVE ANY RELATIVE WHO IS SICK AT THE MOMENT? DO U KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO HAVEA BREADWINNER DIE ALL COZ CERTAIN FOOLS WANTED MORE MONEY!? NURSES HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS! HOES!
#45, Youself,Shaka ,Teta, Vj, and your ever sleeping president dont think with your heads! what developmen are you talking about. This country never develop with or without money, because of your selfsh leaders. If there is no money, then were did the K27 billion come from? This was an eye opener for any sane civil servant.Go and play with your wee wee if you dont have anything better to do.
Mr B L/stone Ati Mushindo Waake.Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
This ““There are Zimbabwean nurses itching to come and work in Zambia and so nurses that will not report back for work today should consider themselves fired. We shall replace them with those that retired as well these from Zimbabwe“ is seriousand I hope to hear a response from the new unity government of Zimbabwe.
It is very sad to use another nations economic problems to cheat people of your own country.
I thus hope the fired nurses will join hands together and form private clinics and hospitals.
With these works, I will now wait and see what will happen following the threats from the MMD GRZ.
Have a blessed day.
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Matt 6.33 + KJV Bible
Is this this the kind of threat you need from a national leader kwena? Feeding abana babaneighbour while your own go hungry. Yangu, tata, mayo! What incompetent leadership is this? Shikapwasha and colleagues, resign if you cannot perform. Ala!
Wisi Boyi, THE STATE HAS MANY INSTITUTIONAL PLACES TO KEEP THESE CRISIS EMPLOYEES IN.THE COUNTRY HAS SOME FARM AND URBAN AREA HOUSES JUST LIKE WE SHELTERED FREEDOM FIGHTERS SECRETLY.THERE ARE MANY COMMUNAL LIKE HOUSES IN MANY PLACES IN ZAMBIA.
General Shikapwasha, what will become of the Zimbabwean health sector since you seem so keen on obliterating (read bombing) it?
Kwena ichi chena chipuba sana. No wonder ichimona is so big like a monster. Atese.
Think Before,
That is all well and good but how does that cost compare with just giving the nurses their well deserved 15%? Plus, how reliable will these nurses be because I can bet, most will probably head back to Zim as soon as things start looking up in Zim. Then what does GRZ do in that case. Bringing in Zim nurses does not solve the underlying problem, it just buys a little bit of time and that is what my point is.
NUMBER 74.. AS ZIMBABWEAN NURSES FLOCK INTO ZAMBIA, EARN INCOME AND SEND SOME OF IT TO THEIR RELATIVES THIS WILL JUMP START OR HELP IMPROVE THIER ECONOMY..THIS IS WHAT I CALL KILLING TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE- FIRST WE WOULD HAVE HELPED THE SICK ZAMBIANS WHO ARE DYING AND ALSO AT THE SAME TIME CARRY OUT OUR SADC ROLE OF HELPING A FELLOW SOUTHERN AFRICAN NATION.
IM SURE MOST OF U HERE HAVE ILILOMBAS IN YOUR HOUSES THATS WHY U DONT CARE ABOUT THE STATE OF THE HEALTH SECTOR OR ARE NOT BOTHERED WHEN THE NURSES ARE NOT WORKING- PLIZ BRING IN ZIMBABWEANS!
#64 I expect you LT to be impartial in the way you moderate us, we have EASY insulting us here with impunity and you are looking away. I demand that you block his IP or at least delete all his postings for today to stop the nonsense.
Every time Shaka lies, his nose becomes longer
What kind of imagination does this person has. As old as he is. He can’t even think wisely. Bringing in foreigners to work in hospitals knowing very well, that the Zambians have just being fired because all they wanted were better conditions. Have they not heard why Zambians are being killed in SA for taking up jobs for south africans. And what about Zimbabwe. Don’t they think Zimbabwe needs nurses more than we do. And they believe they want to help Zimbabwe. Shame n them.
NUMBER 79 DONT BE A BABY..YABA THATS WHY I AM NOT BRINGING MY KIDS PA UK..PEOPLE TEND TO BECOME CHICKENS
NUMBER81 PLIZ READ NUMBER 77 OK MUDALA
not # 64 i meant #65
Bloggers, dont waste your precious time answering back EASY or whatever he calls himself! The Kabudo is not that okay up-stairs! He suffers from STIS of the brain. So, just pretend he doent exist or he will lead you into temptation.
# 79. What’s your deal man? I have lost family members due to the lack of delivery in the Zambian health system, this is not any different. I do not want those that died to have died in vain, this gov’t has blood on its hands.
LT if you won’t block or delete EASY’s comments we shall all start swearing on the blog. At least force him to withdraw the ‘F’ word.
I hope the alleged comming Zimbabwean nurses will find easy and quick accommodation in Zambia.
This exxpanding of the health sector through bringing foreigners to work in Zambia while encouraging locals to form private clinics and hospitals will ensure Zambians have better health care.
Good move MMD GRZ.
Have a blessed day.
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Matt 6.33 + KJV Bible
EASY IS SPEAKING SENSE! NI APOPENE MUDALA! MOST NI MA ILLEGALS..THATS WHY I AM FOR THE POLICY OF GIVING VISASONLY TO THOSE WHO ARE GOING ABROAD FOR STUDIES..NOT RUN AWAY NURSES
To shikapwasha that’s a solution. This gvt is full of rubbish. Fire all of them, pay them immediately and employ Zimbabwean nurses. Mind shikapwasha, you are tempering with the tax-payers money. In any case nurse are not alone. Did you ask yourself b4 uttering such rubbish a simple question as, “what if the whole Zambia’s work-force rise in solidality with the nurses and down tools?”.
I remain nonplussed that the govt spokesperson can make a such a statement “Zimbawean nurses are itching to work…..” as a Minister I expect him to find a way to amicably resolve this issue which we may right now not see the seriousness of its effect of returning a work force that is not happy. Threats will just cause more resistance and indirectly the MMD Govt is de-campaigning itself. Come 2011, we will make a change!
LOOK! Cileseka nokuseka cipubeci.
Mudala uyu chipuba sana
“DEFENCE minister George Mpombo last Thursday almost drowned in a swimming pool at the Royal Livingstone Hotel after a monkey that he tried to photograph charged toward him.
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No wonder it’s now monkeys who are protesting against them. If even monkeys can see how f.o.o.l.i.s.h. they are then you know Zambia is headed for trouble with these fuuls.
LT bad manners what about my comment
These chaps-why do they use their bottoms to think?
Imwe Ba shikapwasha, are the ZIm nurses going to be recruited as expatriates or what
Ba Shikapwasha loyal servant mediocrisy and propaganda So mwamba ukuchita import labor becoz Your Zimbaweans understand you better RB tulekumona 2011
i can’t believe this man!! atase!!!!
Bloggers , and dont mind, chi WALAI NTWENU, he wants some recognition. Elo ni chimuselela kwaba! No stand Mudala uyu! Ukwalola umwela ninshi nankwe eko alola
‘Nurse, you are safe,’ says Liato. ‘No you are not,’ retorts Shikapwasha.
Zambia under Michael Sata as Health Minister struck a deal with the South African government to limit doctors working in SA. Infact the whole of SADC has an agreement not to poach each others medical staff. Now what is Shikapwasha saying? There is no need for threats. This is all wrong and I say so as a friend of the RB administration. When Nkandu Luo was Health Minister junior doctors went on strike and she said it was unreasonable to ask for more money because there was no money. Now she is on the other side. Why are Zambian politicians prostitutes? The bat from whichever side is convenient for them. In many countries in the world medical and healthcare staff are essential workers not allowed to strike. They can work to rule but never strike. Our nurses are a disgrace to Nightingale.
NUMBER 100 FASHION POLICE ARE U ON YOUR PERIOD? AHH ANY WAY THE NAME FASHION POLICE SAYS IT ALL..MENSTRUAL THINKERS!
IF THEY WANT TO PAY PEANUTS, THEN THEY MUST HIRED MONKEYS
IF THEY WANT TO PAY PEANUTS, THEN THEY MUST HIRE MONKEYS
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Think before
Your focus is short term. You may employ those health workers on fixed budget, but remember there are other costs as others on this blog have already said which will come with that, housing, transportation etc. There is also a social cost which most of you donot take account of, those people will have to adapt themselves to the Zambian way of life, basic as it is, it turns out to be a cost in the long run.What you forgot also is that once the current Health workers are fired, Govt will have to pay them their benefits including pension contibutions. If you think such costs are minimal , then i dont know where you did your economics. A word of advice, try to avoid hard language and calling each other names, we are here to share ideas.
#106,you also insult? tafimipalile.
This is a deliberate move to discredit the State. Lf Shika.. is discrediting his own Gov’t. Let the president fire him.
Rubbish and surely illegal to import foreign workers
This was expected, after all RB was born in Zim… Cheap Nurses indeed.
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Good Hunting and Good Luck for the Future guys!
Well placed sources had informed me some months ago that Inonge Wina was going to join the mighty UPND and hopefully as second vice president. Her joining the PF-UPND PACT under the leadership of president HH (MBA, UK) and honourable selfappointed PF leader MC Sata (Grade 2/6, unknown) popolarly known as Haka-Saka bodes well for the Western Province votes following disatisfaction over the fact that President RB Banda did not give Western Province the Vice Presidency.
I would thus ask PF people like MP Lubinda Given to relax on the possible Vice President of the Country should president HH form GRZ after being PACT presidential cand..
Let us all enjoy these things as the PACT is getting more and more useful support across the Nation.
Be blest.
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Matt 6.33 + KJV…
#103, kwena niwe kasuli ku fipuba, walitala wamoneko umwaume ukuya ku mwenshi? ******we makaka!
#108. I am so sorry and I would like to withdraw my statement. It hurts me to see what is happening in Zambia and the calibre of leaders we have. LT remove my statement at #106.
Imwe Nurse are back to work.
number 113 tolle mukanwa pushee iwe
#29. Its not God who gave you RB. God gave Zambian the will to choose and thats what you chose for yourselves. It was plain as day that rb did not qualify as a leader. But theres something terribly wrong with Zambian people to come out with such rubbish. Its got nothing to do with his age but his head. And just as he is he equally chose rubbish for henchmen. 2011, you are very far. We would like to see if theres still anything wrong with Zambians’ heads. Where I live no minister can utter such rubbish. Unless he’s tired of working and he doesn’t need a job. You can even ask a baby on that one.
#115 is it true? It means they are a let down and they will even suffer more than teachers
#118 No need to be rude. GRZ seem not to appreciated the good and very hard working Zambian medical staff.
Why can’t the doctors go on strike to protest this action? You can’t watch your brother or sister being beaten and pretend that everything is well. Next time when doctors go on strike, sikapwasha will say we will employ doctors from Zimbabwe. Let reject this injustices.
number 113.. grow up.. i bet u r cleaning up peoples sheet whereever u
number 121 sorry meant number 115 really sorry..its just that that guy thinks like a foetus
but i meant what i said in number 123
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#118 and 126, can you please spare us your insults, this is a public forum!
What did we do to deserve leaders like Shikapwasha? I even wonder how he became a General in the Army because everytime he opens his mouth, it stinks!
good step shikapwasha, fire them all if they cant appreciate the little they have and save our poor relatives. all ya bloggers supporting nurses why do you take joy in poor zambians dying? is that your contract with the devil. shame on you all.
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# 144, the so called Maestro, should try to fix his brain and realise that his HH will never rule this country as long as his party is not the major opposition. Do you honestly think PF has no degree or PHD holders? You and people like Maj. Chizyuka are so possessed with your HH that you cant reason normally. You are the very people that are going to mess up the Pact. If HH leads the Pact i dont know how PF supporters are going to take that. It may even be better to carry on with RB for the sake of Uational Unity. We learnt a big unforgettable lesson after Mazokas demise.
I hope our hard working nurses have gone back to work, tho not out of fear of the govt threat, but becauze they have hearts and that they have driven a point home. Our neighbour, Zimbabwe, haz problemz and we must take advantage of their situation? What a “good neighbour” we are!
ZE BIGGEE MUCHENDE WAT’S UP GUYS
Uku eku ekudelela abantu nomba, what rubbish! ifya bupuba. Zambians shibukeni. This is the result of donor dependancy in even paying salaries, its time we had eligible people in authority to manage our own.
So Dambisa Moyo was right after all, te ifi, ba filwa kale.
God help my country Zambia.
Shikapwasha.
Please don’t spoil my my day this is rubbish.
Print money(paper) and pay the nurses.
131Za Yelo greetings. With due respect to your “# 144, the so called Maestro, should try to fix his brain and realise that his HH will never rule this country as long as his party is not the major opposition. Do you honestly think PF has no degree or PHD holders? You and people like Maj. Chizyuka are so possessed with your HH that you cant reason normally. You are the very people that are going to mess up the Pact.“, I ask you to have yourself checked at a hospital. Ask yourself as to why you are concentrating on my personality and not my comment.
You are a very big disappointment to the Nationa at large for issuing statements like “If HH leads the Pact i dont know how PF supporters are going to take that” for is the PACT for PF?
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122 Ubuntungwa mu Zambia greetings. With due respect to your “Why can’t the doctors go on strike to protest this action? You can’t watch your brother or sister being beaten and pretend that everything is well.” Medical Doctors are well paid and have call allowances which help them good net salaries at the end of the day.
However, junior Medical Doctors were on strike also a few days ago, but their concerns were amicably handled. I hope this helps, but others can add or subtract from what I have presented.
Have a blessed day.
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Nurses have refused to go back to work. They have continued with their strike. They are having a meeting at 14 00 hours. I will give you the redsolutions after their meeting.
#139. Keep us updated, we will be waiting to hear the out come….
freeze your mid term gratuites and pay nurses
131 Za Yel, are you MP Given Lubinda as people call him by that name? FYI, on the Teta. take Masebo to ACC thread, ba-NKOLE WA MAPEMBWE UMFWE MILANDU greetings. I like your “WHY ARE YOU GITTERY. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE PREOCCUPIED WITH INDIVIDUALS. BE PREOCCUPIED WITH FACTS. …. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.” Which is on the spot.
Unfortunately, only a few of bloggers are able to apply reasoning to react to te news while many specialise on actual individuals and their personality and hence resort to insults. This is very very sad for our supposed great Nation Zambia.
The PF-UPND PACT is not for individuals like president HH (MBA,UK) or Sata (Grade 2/6, unknown), but for all its sympathisers. Get this!
Have a blessed day.
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Ba Tionge.
Thanks for the update will will be waiting for the outcome of that meeting.
VIVA NURSERS>
number 136 if you have baby comments or solutions to make please save them for your children or bed time stories wanvela mune!?
This guy isn’t so honourable after all. And then who will run RM’s hospitals. He honestly thinks Mugabe will allow his people to waste away b/c he has exported all skilled health pros up north? And how long will such a situation remain. Bwana honourable, please!!!! Such silly bullying tactics only worked in UNIP days. And this man is supposed to be a pastor…???? I would never attend his church. NEVER is he was the last man of God on earth.
I am still “waiting for a comment over this MInister Shikapwasha comment from the Zimbabwean government“. This is not time to insult the Zimbabwean government as purporting that they have failed their people.
Let us learn to build one another in SADC, AFRICA and across the whole world as opposed to issuing alarmiing statements.
Why an Airforce former Commander, Lt General Minister of Information and Broadcasting Ronnie Shikapwasha is. I hope President RB Banda will take necessary action on this loose statement and convince his birth-place countrymen not to take it serious.
Such statements remind me of how then Vice President Nevers Mumba was fired by then real President of Zambia late LP Mwanawasa. Those were men!
Have a blessed day.
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There is something wrong Ronnie Shika. How dare one say such stupid statement instead of findinbg lasting solution to the issues being raised by health workers the man says Zim nurses are ready to come fill up the vaccum> Does he know what it entails to relocate those nurses from Zim in terms of costs and how they going to be accommodated when they have failed to do for the Zambian health worker. Workers should not be traeted like kids, the man is just ranting. He has no negotiating skills. No wonder he is a retired Gen. and has got nothing to offer. Does he think Zim leaders will take such a move lightly, that will be termed as move to destablize their already fragile situation. Rb this man of yours will sooner than later create friction between us and Zim. Take him to aother Ministry.
Since they do not require a visa to enter Zambia they will most likely get voters cards instead.
Doctors have promised to join the strike as soon as “Shika and RB fire the Nurses”
Bravo Bravo Bravo!!!! Doctors.
#149. That will be a good thing the doctors will do. Infact even teachers should resume their strike so that we see if sikapwasha will bring teachers from Zimbabwe.
welai ntwenu.when are u goin to change?ama insults lyonse balikulowa….if zimbabwan nurses had come to zambia there would be stiff competition to zambian nurses so would not be a good idea
Guys can we get rid of this ‘Rubbish’ government, we cant accept the issue of “outsourcing” nurses, worse enuf from the hunger striken neigbours. This govt has lamentebly failed us. VIVA nurses they cant fail to give your demands if individuals can steal billions and just get away with it…………………………………………
With th way things are going, I think a Captain Solo is the only way out!
Joseph nao alibukishe eko afumine ku Isreal na ba Banda nabo baibukisha ku mwabo ku Zim………Comeon guys it doesnt work lyk this, Uv given them maize now U want to give them jobs… no pliz tulekeleni fwebene tulebomba you heartless failures
I am listening to Radio Pheonix news and they are saying Nurses who gathered at the Cemetry in Kitwe were today chased by riot police and some nurses have been arrested while others scampered in all direction. Too bad.
Lishilu ili, chipuba sana chi Shikapwasha.
In Lusaka and copperbelt nurses have refused to go back for work.
147 ANIMAL FARM OWNER greetings. On your “He has no negotiating skills. No wonder he is a retired Gen. and has got nothing to offer. Does he think Zim leaders will take such a move lightly, that will be termed as move to destablize their already fragile situation. Rb this man of yours will sooner than later create friction between us and Zim. Take him to aother Ministry.“ I now appreciate president HH, leader of the UPND-PF PACT, comment that the MMD GRZ is inciting the public workers to go on strike.
Following this issue, I am humbly asking might UPNDpresident HH (MBA,UK), since he is a negotiator by profession, to address the striking nurses on MUVITV and radio stations and convince them to get back to work, but vote him in 2011.
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These people are fighting for a just demand, then useless Shikawasha threatens them with dismisal, is this man normal? Anyway pa Zed, ifipuba efikateka.
Ubupuba pa Zed, its becoming too much! What kind of stupidity is this? Oh, okay, when my kids are being rowdy, they better watch out….I will kick them to the curb and go get my neighbor’s whose expectations aren’t that high. How about we borrow the Mugabe government to come run our country? They honestly can’t do any worse than these *****s are!
Can sumone fire this chap RB and Shikawatever.We tired bin lead by people that can´t fund a solution even when we dealing with serious national issues.That General is a big let down,he might be a cardet general
Nonsense is it because they want cheap labour now zimbabwean nurses?Our zambian nurses deserve a descent life they work hard for little .why cant the govt increase their wages rather than spend more money on foreigners?bazankala kuti?
One day or the other,they will have to pay for all the mess they have caused
Bloggers do you know why Govt is not in a hurry to give the striking Civil Servants what they want ?. It is because most of these so called Top Govt. officials run private Schools and Clinics and therefore their interest is to protect their business by not giving the striking Govt workers what they are demanding for. I just hope the Guy saying Zim nurses are ready to take up places in Zed has no private school or clinic !
Ras Rated.
Yesai brada man dem will pay one ayiwa.I wish one day a dread man can rule our country,so that he can chant down these babylonyians.
Yeah, this folks get about $250 a month, it is rather meager… think of it, two bags of mealie meal cost them $40 a month… and you know the ndiyo will cost them much much more.
these chaps are erning large sums of kwachas,so i dont think wat they say alwayz is to the interest of the nation,so dont be supprised wen roony comes up with threats lyk this one,we all know thats not possible,wa sabisa fela
What is coming for MMD GOVT is not good. If they have not heed to return for work then you know that something is wrong.
weed ya fula sana pa zed,even shikapwasha smokes m shell shocked,cos only a weed smoker can say such a statement.kwayiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Stop crying people…we are all one separated by imaginary borders…whether from zim or zed we are one…we must be seen to assist our brothers and sisters…and vice versa.
kwayiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
That is rubbish.This will be the source of xenophobia in zambia all because of stupid govnt decisions.Fire these guys before they bring sham on zambia.
LT, what criteria do you use to select what postings appear on your blog?
dangerous statement# 172 i agree wit ya
gosiame
What kind of BS is this?! These leaders like shortcuts to problems. suddenly you are thinking of Zimbabwean nurses to come and camp in Zambia. Shikapwasha, take care of your own people and if you decide to bring in those nurses, you might as well start considering to run for elections in Zimbabwe or worse still move to Zimbabwe, not Zambia because you will be tossed. I think you guys have seen better days and need to go and start farming or something, let people who want to work for Zambians do the job. Mwanyanya!!
Firstly, Zimbabwean nurses do not know local languages which they will very much need to use when treating most poor patients who rely mainly on public hospitals. Therefore, i foresee another problem coming. Secondly, settling -in and other allowances will need to be paid to these newly nurses that may be employed. Considering all these costs likely to be incurred by government through hiring of new nurses, it is possible to give the current nurses what they are demanding for and move forward. U see, it is also a security risk to completely rely on foreign manpower to work on your citizens especially were health is concerned. The risk is rather high to totally trust foreign manpower in health related issues. Pls, may the authorities critically think about this.
Zimbabweans what? Let’s unleash the monkeys coz it seems they get the message across faster!
BREEZE WHY DO YOU OWAYS HAVE AN ISSUE WITH WHAT I SAY.. YOU OWAYS CRITICISE MY ARGUMENTTS WITH OTHERS AND NEVER LOOK AT THE SUBSTANCE THAT I GIVE ALSO.. LETS MAKE THINGS MORE INTERESTING..WHAT ARE YOU VIEWS ON THIS ISSUE AND WHY?
MATWORLD SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY COOL FELLA HERE..WAY TO GO MATWORLD
Criticize, constructively guys
somebody help. Give us jik to wash this man’s mouth with.
nindo fikocitika pa zed??
BLOGGERS ASK YOURSELVES. HOW MUCH ARE THESE ZIM NUNS GOING TO PAID? SAME PEANUTS WE ARE BEING PAID? IF SO THEN IT’S NOT WORTTH IT. KNOWING OU GVT THEY WILL FIND IT EASIER TO PAY MORE TO THESE EXPATS FROM ZIM THAN OUR OWN PEOPLE.
Shikapwasha’s remarks are bad for international and neighbourly relations.
Rupiah Banda should move RS to another ministry or better fire him from GRZ in the same way that LPM fired Nevers Mumba for speaking amiss. By his statement, RS is implicating Zimbabwe who have their own issues that require our sympathy. What has amazed me is the level of incompetence this GRZ has to negotiate – beve ni military commands. This is bad for governance in a democratic society, which Zambia is. How does one create unemployment for his fellow countrymen and women in preference for other people? First its was mineral industry, then companies and now the civil services. One day when councils strike and refuse to go to work, this GRZ will bring in workers from goodness knows where. No wisdom to negotiate!
We dont want to either see or accept Zambia is very fast declining to levels below the poorest countries in the world. All this is due to politics of UMUYAYA. Right now Mr Rupiah is not thinking of ways to rescue this country. His pre occupation is how he can clinch the MMD nomination and evetually the Republican Presidency. Yes he will talk about the economy but all this just rhetoric. Meanwhile his cadres such as George, Ronnie etc will be telling the gullibles how much “successes” Mr Rupiah has scored in the economic front etc ets INVISIBLE SUCCESSES.
RON GO PUT YOUR NOSE TO REST.ZIM NURSES MY FOOT.SWINE
IWE #79 YOU DONT THINK BA ZIM NURSES BAKESA KWISA? LIMBI NIKUBOBE BOI.MULALA NABO IWE NACHI RON YOU ARE EATING WEL.THATS WHY TAMWAKWATILA AMANO,IFIMYONA UBUKULU KWATI BWEDO BWALUSATO.FUUUSEKI
#106, even monkeys wont accept their offer, only people like the ones in government would. No wonder monkeys are doing justice to these government officials.
What a treasonous remark by this big mouthed fool!
The Nurses meeting is over and they have resolved not to return to work. Next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow 16 00 hours.
welai i dont hate you man i alwayz criticize what u say not what u think,when u go wrong i should talk bout it so that u change want you to be alwayz in the right direction just contribute positively people will value your contributions
Is is Zimbabwean nurses or Zimbabwean sex workers?
editedFunny that Shikapwasha can use that rhetoric. It is the nurses this time around, the people will rise one day and see if you gona replace everyone with Ba ZIm Zim. With due respect our brothers and sisters have suffered a lot please don’t use cheap politics to antagonise us. Shame. peace
Nurses dont give up until they give you conditions of work. You have suffered a lot the stance by govt not to address your plight shows how evil they are as they fly all the time to SA and other countries. This is an eye opener to all Zambians. MMD gvt has heart for Zambians. Imagine all the monies that donor pump in this country since MMD came into power. I support you my brothers and sisters.
Former nurse.
Nurses dont give up until they give you all the monies and improved conditions of work. You have suffered a lot the stance by govt not to address your plight shows how evil they are as they fly all the time to SA and other countries. This is an eye opener to all Zambians. MMD gvt has no heart for Zambians. Imagine all the monies that donor pump in this country since MMD came into power. I support you my brothers and sisters.
Former nurse.
Retired Zimbabwean Nurses!
Very stupid threat very very stupid indeed.
breeze we have a truce.. dont worry guys i will change for the better… i am getting baptised soon actually..
I am saved believer of Christ and I almost after I saw this. My prayers of repentance have been sent. I am praying for my beloved country, what sins did our forefathers do that we need to bind so as the Lord forgives us. Or maybe the devil knows our pedigree of loving jesus thus we need to work harder and let God guide us to properity in Moral, hardworking creative enterprise. How do you want to bring nurses from afar when yours do not get enough. This is how wars are started. Rev. Shikapwasha stop blespheming the name of the Lord; do not bring a curse on you and your family leave Zambia alone you and you MMD.
Prosperity above
mmmmmm numbala 201 u are way too deep for this site mwe.yaba
Is there a void of intelligence in Zambia. I cannot believe what I am reading, Nazibuntula pamupando, how ever did we get monsters, gremlins, trolls and all other forms of evil creatures to rule our nation. Chi baba looking at Botswana to our west and Namibia being prosperous and giving to their people when our homeland is being raided by self-centred people. There are days are sleep an wake up imagining my country has changed. How is it that all we need is a person or people to rule that shall even let 1 million dollars / Kwacha equivalent to trickle to any sector of development and we are on our way; then comes a minister to show his ignorance and make such a statement deviod of any intelligence, C.I.A you have said it this is beyond belief.
walai nthwenu mputi business says:
Though some of your statement were a bit hush towards my bloggers on LT, this you do agree to, Zambia must have a curse, because there is absolutely no way we can have a nation so vastly blessed with Human resource, continue suffering to feed and provide healthcare to its own. Got you with the human resource part right, there is more imagine if we let our people freely work with moral codes attached to our constitution. How we would develop and feed Africa with our Fertile soil, 40% Southern African water resource, Minerals Animal life, Science Artistry need I go own, My mind needs rest maybe I am supposed to remain where I am and continue developing America; God blesses us all differently but key in this, we need to ask him and also work hard men!
It is highly irresponsible for the minister to utter such words. If there is any morality in our government, Shikapwasha should be fired. Either his utterances are an expression of his personal opinion or he is representing RBs government. If the latter holds, then our people are doomed. Please Mr Minister, have a conscience. You will do well to resign on your own. If this man is not fired, then the President has failed to run this country.
Ronnie Shikapwasha is just an i.d.i.o.t. and an empty tin. How can a rersponsible minister utter such words.
Is it Bwezani’s strategy to employ his KIN from Zimbabwe? He should leave the presidency and go back to Zimbabwe as he is showing more interest in improving that country.
Shemuna Ronnie Shikapwasha!!!!!!! SHAME!
Never do anything against conscience, even if the state demands it. Cowardice asks the question, ‘Is it safe?’ Expediency asks the question, ‘Is it politic?’ But conscience asks the question, ‘Is it right?’ And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.
If these politicians could just have a bit of it zambia would be a better place to live in.Big man your conscience is the measure of the honesty of your selfishness. Listen to it carefully.
A Reverand??????????
just because they attended sunday school they turn into reverands.
its a plague
How do we expect things to improve in our beloved country Zambia, when we are busy insulting each other here instead of articulating serious issues which if digested by those in GRZ may improve the situation. When you get an hour or two, wat comes in your mind, Insult others so your point can be heard? Certainly no, lets try and change our debating strategy. To all those bent on the use of cheap vulgarities on this platform, I plead with you to rearrange your priorities. Remember we are brothers and sisters of the same sheepfold.
This is despicable? How can you prefer someone’s children to your own? In principal he is surposed to be fired because he is not a leader at all.
#210-haven’t u heard the song ati Nalikata iche ichi (church)-ati bafwala 4 corner ati nalikwata i church,bafwala bombasa ati nalikwata i church…….
where is FAZ getting money to camp in foreign countries if Zam has no money to pay its workers like the nurse sag??? That mans dirty smile won’t work.. Zim pm was in London asking its citizens to return home to help upgrade the living standards of the Zim not Zam why shakas want to rob zim? Shame shame..
Zambians stop insulting each other, SA is better coz of white people, Zimbabwe was doing good coz of white people.
we need them…stop complain bring white people and prayers to God zambia will improve.
This is what the collective Zambian wisdom was concerned about when Rupiah and his elected office bearers awarded themselves too much money, at the expense of the poorly remunerated essential workers in the civil service.
What kind of leader is a person who does not lead by example? All the people in Rupiah’s GRZ should give back the money they gave themselves, which they actually do not deserve as poor and failed performers. Maybe all the workers in the country should sit down in solidarity with the health workers, and show this incompetent GRZ the door, in case they are not seeing it. The current regime is a complete waste of our country’s development time. Those supporting them, whether Zambians or foreign sympathisers are doing so pretending all is well with GRZ. Shame!
Ba shikapwasha li saka zoona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Zimbabwean government is not as f**lish as you shipwasha to let their nurses just come and work for you! Does this man have a brain or what?
I hope the nurses stick to their guns and hasten teh collapse of this useless government! Let us see if their relatives in Zimbabwe will come and work in our hospitals. To stat with, who is going to allow them into our hospitals? Think before you open your mouth. All that big head is fullof nothing but air – amazing!
Said this before. Will say it again. My chihuahua has a higher IQ than Shikapwasha, Tetamashimba and Mulongoti combined.
numbala 216.. i rily hate your view you low life!… wat makes that mutated humanbeing better than me..? you are the same f.oo.ls wiping old people’s matakoz..Pliz lets not go abroad to spend 100 millons a year on school only to come up with such stu.pi,d views from the a.s.s. ok?
What a foolish way to try to get people back to work. This is very poor reasoning that explains why our beloved country is in such a mess.
Is Shikapwasha Zimbabwean or Zambian? To the best of my knowledge, he is Zedian and if this is so, why does he want to solve Zimbabwe’s problems before his (Zambia’s).I’ve heard pipo say Shikapwasha is some preacher of some sort. And if so then he just hasn’t read the Holy Book and in particular where it talks about removing specks and logs from eyes. And , in any case, this is an insult to our Zimbabwean brothers and sisters; Ronny is saying Zimbabweans are cheap labourers!!!!
Ladies and gentlemen, UNZA Lecturers are also on strike starting today. We will see if Sikapwasha will get lecturers from Zimbabwe. I am sure if students join the battle, there will be confusion in Zambia.
so they have decided to go on strike!? okay.. so people think striking is a game eh! people play with jobs pa zed.. let the Zimbabweans in please! we dont have time for over proud i.d.iots..
#226. you are greatest i.d.i.o.t I ever seen. You think Zambia is for politicians? Its for Zambians. If RB increased his salary 1 month after taking office, why is he finding problems with increasing salaries for his friends. If you are MMD your time is getting closer. VIVA strike.
iwe numbala 226.. you kill a chicken at home and then your father eats the gizzard..how possible is it that you can also eat it?! eh!? its not possble! so if RB gave himself a gizzard how can all zambians expect gizzards!? there is only one! mambala iwe
#228. We are not talking about gizzards here. We are talking about MONEY. If RB can find MONEY to pay himself as well as GRATUITY for MPs who are not doing anything, he should find money to pay striking nurses and UNZA lecturers. This is no time for jokes. People are dying in hospitals.
why not tell nurses to go back and save lives… what is more imprtant here a 25 percent or people’s lives? they can go back and work and do a slow action type of strike u feel me? of course when RB did that, was the issue of nurses increase of salaries on the table? its like you, you get paid and you had planned to take your wife on holiday and you pay for the holiday whose terms of conditions state that there is no refund…and then your relative passes away..where are u gonna sheeet that money from eh?
by the way money dont grow on trees
So you mean the money to pay Gratuity grows on trees? Whereever RB will find money to pay MPs is the same place he should go and look for money to pay nurses.
this is a narional economy people are running ok? there is what we call planning or budgeting. There are allocations in each budget year for various expenditures.. and if aprovision for nurses was not included in the budget, I am sorry but they should jsut negotiate for an increase in the next budget. Also you should learn that the international economy at this point in time is adversly affecting the Zambian copper exprorts..so just because sources of incomes where there when RB decided to award himself increases in salaries etc..does not mean that those sources are still viable in the present circumstances OK my friend?
Who makes the budget? Is it nurses or the same RB? Why should he include upward adjustment of his salary in the budget and leaves out for nurses? It means he is greedy and selfish. Whether international Economy or whatever terms you will put across, the fact is that we go to the same shops with MPs and therefore deserves better salary.
exactly! its RB who makes the budget! so why should nurses try and direct how the budget should be made by making wild demands any time they feel like?if they want to have the power to increase their salaries let them stand for political offices..it seems they have lots of political aspirations
you should learn that what we have between govt and people is a social contract whch demands giving up some rights for certain national benefits
what kind of resolve is that? Using threats instead of dealing with the issue amicably. MMD just need to be kicked out. They have failed lamentably
iwe didnt they try to deal with it amicably and what did the nurses resort to? striking and letting people die.. who has failed zambian people amicably?
sorry meant lamentably
229 Ubuntungwa mu Zambia greetings. On your “We are talking about MONEY. If RB can find MONEY to pay himself as well as GRATUITY for MPs who are not doing anything, he should find money to pay striking nurses and UNZA lecturers. This is no time for jokes.“, President RB Banda also found money for UNZASU to make them quiet over their earlier outbursts and why can’t he do the same to the nurses and UNZA lecturers.
Let the MMD GRZ be serious with what and how they do things.
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This Walai is OP and MMD plant. Or how else can you describe a scandalfluent like him.
DE JAVU.. HAHAHA.. ITS CALLED BEEN LEARNED.. STARTED READING POLITICAL LITERATURE FROM A TENDER AGE OF 9..
what a stupid thing to say. i wish i were a nurse right now……..
numbala 243 who is that addressed to?????
Ronnie really shocks me. Let them come and we will chase them away with rentals !
iwe numbala 245 why think like you are still playing utupendelo??
This is not funny
Is he speaking on behalf of the Govt? Is this one of teh options by the Cabinet?
Why does this government not just dissolve the people and elect another one?
iwe nambala 248 this is not like making zigolo okay? dissolve dissolve wati?
I have never heard of a country willing to sacrifice its own citizenry workforce and replace it with foreigners. What kind of nonsense is this? Take care of your citizens, that is the governments number 1 responsibility!
why bringing them in zambia in the first place,we have a lot graduates others are yet to graduate; from zimbabwe for what?those belong to Mugabe,we dont want Robert crime against humanity Mugabe connection
Bring them on….I badly need a girfriend from ZIM….I hear balapela BWINO!!!!!
Never knew this GRZ would fail to sort the medical staff’s request, think twice
NUMBALA 252.. AFTER TRYING MOST OF THE FEMALE NATIONALS, I HAVE COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT AMA BRITISH AND JAMAICANS AND PUERTO RICANS ARE THE BEST..NOTI IFYO FIMA ZIM ZIM..THEY ARE JUST LIKE OUR OWN WOMEN..TAVA PELA NA MUTWE..
I like the accent of zimbabweans. I went to the benk to get my cesh.I booked a texi from the texi renk with my bleck shoes.
Bushe Shikapwasha ali pena. Such A comment in the developed society you resign or you are fired.That is treason , espionage you name it. you cant put a foreigner on top of a citizen. Where is the patriotism, Atase na fulwa sana.
NUMBALA 256.. WHY DO YOU CHAPS OWAYS COMPARE ZAMBIA WITH WESTERN COUNTRIES..? HELLOOO THIS IS AFRICA! WE DO THINGS A WHOLE LOT DIFFERENTLY..THATS WHY YOU CHAPS DONT DEVELOP ITS COZ OF THIS TYPE OF THINKING. AND I ALSO BLAME THE EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM.. WE NEED TO BE TEACHNG YOU I.DIOTS HOW TO COME WITH YOUR OWN IDEAS IN SCHOOLS RATHER THAN READING TEXT BOOKS WRITTEN BY WESTERNERS AND APPLYING THEM IN AN AFRICAN SETUP.. YOU CANT SOLVE A PROBLEM WITH A DEEP AFRICAN CHARACTERISTIC BY APPLYING WESTERN PRNICIPLES ..ASK BONO LEAD SINGER OF U2 AND FORMER ADVISOR TO KOFFI ANAN (THEY WROTE A GOOD BOOK WHICH U SHOULD READ ON POVERTY) …
#254 stupid comment ,you think zedian women love you idot stick to the ones that dont ask you questions are ready to take your nastness from head to bottom .#255sharp shooter you rock you made me laugh so much
NUMABLA 258 I WILL FORGIVE YOU FOR UTTERING THAT MAKAKA..AND YES YOU HAVE JUST SHOWN THE WORLD ANOTHER REASON WHY I DONT LIKE MY ZAMBIAN WOMEN.. PAMULOMO TOO MUCH.. YES IF SOME BODY IS WILLING TO LOVE ME AND GO DOWN ON ME WHY SHOULD I WASTE MY TIME WITH YOU WOMEN!? ITS A FREE WORLD! ANN BOI AM I ENJOYING MYSELF
# 257 are you mad? Or are you on drugs? You have no sense of pride in you, you are just like an empty vessel going nowhere. Your mother never taught manners or how to behave in public? You talk about Africa yet you talk about Bono. Is bono african?
YA BA DONGO , I THOUGHT U HAD BRAINS! KANSHI U ARE A SHOMBO ASWELL.. I DIDNT PROMOTE ANY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN POSITIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN AFRICA AND AFRICAN ETHNICITY OF THE ECONOMISTS TO DRIVE THIS DEVELOPMENT.. READ THE BOOK FIRST BEFORE TALKING YOU ILLITERATE SCUMBAG.. WHAT JEFRREY SACHS AND BONO STATE EXACTLY WHAT I STATE: A SPECIAL AFRICANRECIPE TO TACKLE AFRICAN POVERTY. JEFFREY SACHS IS A PROFESSOR WITH VAST EXPEREINCE AND INFLUENTIAL STANDING IN THE ECONOMICS SPHERE HE WAS ABLE TO SETUP SPECIAL, SPECIFIC REMEDIES IN BANGLEDISH, POLAND BOLIVIA JUST TO NAME A FEW.. MY FRIEND WAKE UP OK?
Where is Zambia heading???
No wonder, even Monkeys pee on these guys.