UNITED Party for National Development (UPND) president Hakainde Hichilema yesterday failed to state the reasons for the impeachment of President Rupiah Banda.
Mr Hichilema, when asked about the statements by the UPND-Patriotic Front (PF) pact, failed to give the grounds for the impeachment of President Banda but instead said the Government should concentrate on addressing problems affecting the nation.
The UPND leader said in an interview that the Government should not breach the Constitution but govern in the interest of the people by attending to issues that citizens raised.
Pressed to state the reasons for the planned action announced recently by PF Nchanga MP, Wilbur Simusa and whether his party was part of the scheme, Mr Hichilema said he could not state.
“I cannot categorically state that but all I can say is that the Government should address the issues that people are raising,” he said.
Mr Hichilema condemned President Banda’s appointment of Lands Deputy Minister Michael Mabenga and Education Minister Dora Siliya despite them being cleared by the courts.
Mr Mabenga was acquitted by the magistrate’s court after the Parliamentary and Ministerial Code of Conduct Tribunal found him guilty and recommended that he should be prosecuted.
Ms Siliya was found to have breached the Constitution by the Parliamentary and Ministerial Code of Conduct tribunal but was found innocent on appeal in the High Court.
Mr Hichilema urged the Government to intervene in the go-slow at the University of Zambia (Unza) and resolve outstanding issues in the Health sector.
Meanwhile, a non-governmental organisation (NGO), Authentic Advocates for Justice and Democracy (AAJD) has said the plan to impeach President Banda was ill conceived because he had not contravened any law.
AAJD president Emmanuel Sikanyika said in a statement in Lusaka yesterday that President Banda had not contravened any provision of the Republican Constitution to justify his impeachment.
Mr Sikanyika said the president did not contravene the provisions of the Constitution as he only reappointed Ms Siliya after she was cleared by the High Court.
He said it was wishful thinking for the PF-UPND pact to start instigating initiation of impeachment proceedings against President Banda.
He said it was common knowledge that the UPND and PF pact was mooted with the sole purpose of causing confusion in the nation and thereafter reap from the unrest that may follow.
Mr Sikanyika said the UPND and PF pact was flat out inciting people to rise against the Government without any justifiable cause.
[Times of Zambia]
Will comment later
But how could HH fail to say anything when he’s convinced that RB is impeachable?
I’d like to think that he didn’t fail,rather he couldn’t have just blurted out all the reasons & stuff.If you’re going to say someone must be impeached,you should have good reasons and go about it in the right way.I think he’s just being smart.Or so i would like to think!
Lack of leadership qualities can’t even answer a simple question yaba just going with the masses this is dangerous.
Does this country need impeachment of RB yet there are so many problems which need the serious attention of national leaders in the ruling & opposition parties. Its not a matter of only getting the Presidency. There are many ways leaders can contribute to solve the current problems this country is facing. When are our leaders going to think positively. There is time for campaigns and time to settle down and deliver to the expectation of the Zambians. It appears RB is preoccupied answering back to the opposition instead being given time think of developmental issues.
Yes RB is impeachable, but it can’t just happen in Zambia, the motion can’t go through in Parliament, the MMD are many in that house even though we put all the postion together. Lets forget about this process for now.
Look at him!.The whole lot of HH failing to single out ONE reason for impeachment.I repeat,the oppostion are not serious with themselves and their lack of being issue-based is detrimental.Pro Chirwa,please come and rescue us from this mess,It will be another fruitess term if (and NOT when) these oppsition were voted in to office.
These opposing politians are too quick to issue statements and now when facts are need or demanded they put back there tails between their legs. Embarrasing. am Maestro hhehheehhe will find some funny explanation to his worship HH. Hakaivotela Humwine with such lapses.
What reasons do they have to impeach the sitting president.
This is a dead end motion similar to Mr Hichilema’s 24 hour ultimatum on Dora Siliya which saw no action.
Mr. Hichilema should state why he thinks RB should be impeached instead of dodging the issue. The opposition is just trying to stir up some trouble in the nation. There are not reasons as to why RB should be impeached.
RB should finish his term and we shall give him another 5 years in 2011.
On moral grounds RB can not appoint people who were once found guilty. Zambian courts are governmant controlled. We should remember that we had a disgraced Chief Justice in Chiluba’s gvt. Simenza and Sangwa are right to ask for the retirement of the two. The judges are easily summoned to state house, they are all unprofessional and full of sh#$%. Shriek should be removed. We are now an embarassement to the world for supporting an ***** like Mugabe who calls him MY RUPIAH BANDA. What a disgrace. Let us follow principled leaders like Obama who shunned Kenya for their electoral coruption and went to a Ghana with now a record of democracy.
#8 persona
Yes. Even though I stopped reading Maestro’s comments, I am looking forward to reading what he is going to write on this thread especially considering the fact that he has blind loyalty for HH.
8 persona greetings, your very bad behaviour exhibited in your “am Maestro hhehheehhe will find some funny explanation to his worship HH“ can not go unchallenged. Such befits characters who come from a house and not a home — and thus I understand your misuse of English words as you seem to think in your known mother tongue.
I am seriously praying for you and with the help of others too and by God’s grace, you will come round to being normal.
Have a great day and keep well.
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LT You are wrong, Mabenga was not cleared by any court. On the contrary the High Court recommended that Mabenga should be charged with a criminal offence. HH cannot reveal the strategy just like that because that would fore arm MMD
HH is not part of the planners to impeach RB. As a matter of fact, there is zero reasons to impeaching RB. The opposition were merely trying to get RB’s attention.
#10. leave him alone! Its you who have a blind layalty for MMD. There are a million reasons why RB should go Mr FME.
10 Free-Market-Economist greetings. I have moved across the world and never noticed this your “Even though I stopped reading Maestro’s comments, I am looking forward to reading what he is going to write on this thread especially considering the fact that he has blind loyalty for HH.“ which is dull behaviour that my 10 year old niece can not show to the whole world on Internet.
I will seriously pray for you and with the help of others praying for you, by God’s grace, you may become normal.
Have a blessed day and all the best in joining me in normalcy.
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Hichilema Nyelawilas himself on impeachment reasons
UNITED Party for National Development (UPND) president Hakainde Hichilema yesterday failed to state the reasons for the impeachment of President Rupiah Banda instead he nyelawiladi himself childishly with rubbish.
How can a loser like HH have any capacity to reason. He has now been PFed where unreasonableness runs hign. No wonder they call him ICHILEMA in other languages. This camp of losers is going no where with their PACT. If you put two loser together what do you get..BIG LOSER.
14 Mrs Maestro hehehehhe greetings. That character is extremely sick and just leave him/er to me. I will deal with him/er that he will regret ever having passed that terrible comment.
Take care and all the best in your activities.
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Mrs Maestro hehehehhe
I admire your duty to defend your husband (I am assuming he is your husband) but I think Maestro is a big boy and can speak for himself. He prides himself in his academic credentials and I am sure with all those credentials, he can make a statement all by himself without someone else coming to his defense but I still admire your passion.
Mrs Maestro, you claim that I have blind loyalty for the MMD does not make my statement on #10 any wrong. This is simply red herring. The best you can do is prove my statement to be wrong instead of dodging the issue.
Good luck with your marriage and have a great day/night.
#10, i forgot one thing, i thought you bid farewell to this site some time back, citing lack of unprofessionalism by some bloggers.. did you rescind your decisio?. Sometimes its better to keep certain thoughts to ourselves.
“There are a million reasons why RB should go Mr FME.”
Mrs Maestro, perhaps you can enlighten me. What constitutional reasons do you have which would warrant an impeachment of the president??
Am very sane. I didnt mean to insult or be any rude, but i think the way you ve been praising your UPND leader who has never been even an area MP has been too much and am still waiting eagerly to see your one sided comments. Forgive my English, if i had a way i would ve used a vernacular, but alas, am worse. Correction, i come from well settled home.
Why is the Times of Zambia and some people here expecting HH to speak on behalf of the Mr Simuusa? Why dont you all ask Mr Simuusa the reasons he is moved for the impeachment of Banda?
Maestro #16
“I will seriously pray for you and with the help of others praying for you, by God’s grace, you may become normal. “
And what is your definition of normal and by who’s standards are you basing your “normal” on. Second, I am looking forward to your comment on HH failing to state even one reason why the sitting president (Mr. Banda) should be impeached and not your comment on whether I am normal or not. You may think I am not normal, I don’t care. What I care about is what your comment shall be concerning the topic.
On ““I cannot categorically state that but all I can say is that the Government should address the issues that people are raising,” he [president HH] said.” It is clear even to a Grade 8 pupil that president HH has not failed but has reserved the reasons to the people who may present the case at the National Assembly. There is no need for president HH to preempty a National Assembly motion by Parliamentarians when the time to move it will come at some point.
This “… president Hakainde Hichilema yesterday failed to state the reasons for the impeachment of President Rupiah Banda” simply shows that MMD is jittery over the impeachment.
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“#10, i forgot one thing, i thought you bid farewell to this site some time back, citing lack of unprofessionalism by some bloggers.. did you rescind your decisio?. Sometimes its better to keep certain thoughts to ourselves.”
Mrs Maestro, you are right. I did bid farewell and yes I did rescind my decision. There are two reasons I decided to rescind my decision.
1.) Too many anti govt bullies on this website lashing insults at every govt official and what a bully needs is someone to stand up to them. I then decided to stay so I can defend good govt policy that the insulting armchair bullies always blindly criticized.
2. ) Lusaka Times is a free service that gets most of its revenue from ads. Every blogger Lusaka Times loses affects their ad revenue. [tbc
If hakucincha he he he he had some littlebit of academic qualifications to talk about.nga twaba muchibe.manje god knows he can’t give to people like him.he even thinks that to be in germany is a very big achievement.
cont…
I decided as a patriotic Zambian that supports Zambian businesses, I would support Lusaka Times and its competitors by frequently visiting and contributing to their sites.
I hope that clears the whole thing Mrs. Maestro but I thank you for your concern.
23 persona, your “… I didnt mean to insult or be any rude, but i think the way you ve been praising your UPND leader who has never been even an area MP has been too much and am still waiting eagerly to see your one sided comments. Forgive my English, if i had a way i would ve used a vernacular, but alas, am worse. Correction, i come from well settled home.” are at variance for no one who comes from a home can write the nonsense you did indicating that I worship a human being president HH.
Whatever defence you will put is not going to help, but only an apology for your ill behaviour will save your person.
Until the next time.
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#26 Mr Maestro, looks like you have just made a phone call to your ICHILEMA ..and is that best best answer he could give you in your post #26. What a PR Disaster. Even your comments and they way you type clearly show you are a big loser in the making. What did sin did Zambia commit to produce losers like you and HH? And please stop copying and pasting everything and am sure other people have told, but being a LOSER I bet you don’t listen and I doubt ICHILEMA listens to any advice
#20,22,27 ——– refer to comment #19! and thank Mr. Maestro for coming to your rescue. Thanks! have to feed Jnr. Nice day.
Insulting person 31 MMD Chief Bootlicker greetings. Your “looks like you have just made a phone call to your ICHILEMA ..and is that best best answer he could give you in your post #26” is telling about how demonic you are for failing to respect are fellow human being by issuing such an insult to a person who is not what you wrote.
I thus ask you to reflect on the way of life you have taken before Judgment Day catches up with your current behaviour.
Have a blessed day though.
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Mrs Maestro #32
I have seen comment #19 and I would like to know the point of showing me that comment. I have already stated that I don’t care what Maestro has to say about me. I don’t care how many ad hominems he uses.
What I care about on this thread is what he is going to say concerning the story above (Hichilema fails to give impeachment reasons).
Have a good day and greet Jnr for me.
This is going to become a circus if it is not already. HH should know the reasons for impeaching RB before making his intentions public. You dont need to be a genius or great leader to see that. This only makes him look undecided and power hungry. Also, why is he the only one doing the dirty work within the PF-UPND pact? Is Sata playing a strategic game here? I think Cobra wants HH to make himself look immature and incapable so that the logical leader for the pact for 2011 is Sata. Either way, HH capacity to analyse situations is being brought into question.
It is very clear that Rupiah Banda style of leadership is not asertive. Personally I would not want to wait for for his term before I raise my finger. The presidency is not a bed of roses where you want to retire and sleep. He has to work and the fruits have to be seen. I personally would not want him to impeached because thats a non starter. But 2011 kuya bebele.
#13 WE CAN: If the opposition’s aim is to get RB’s attention, well, they are going about it a wrong way. You don’t try to get the attention of a sitting president and Nation through some alarmist behavior!! Nonetheless, they got the attention alright, but not on RB, unfortunately!!! We shouldn’t underestimate the fact that the Presidency as an office means something to millions of Zambians, whether we like the person temporarily occupying it or not.
As for HH, he should stop being joker and instead concentrate on selling his agenda and development plans he has for Zambia if elected—–that would be the biggest attention getter for MMD/RB than some silly impeachment talk. He should also get his MPs in line as a leader!!!!!
These are the consequences of picking anyone to serve in the affairs of the nation. RB was peacefully staying at his farm in the village, umwine ninshi aletonya na TB ama titis.. only to be told ati come be my vice president.I Blame the Late LPM, (M.H.S.R.I.P) for this mess.
Sorry, my comments in #37 is suppose to reference—- #14 WE CAN—— and not #13. thanks
To those complaining about the impeachment of President RB Banda plan, why are you panicking for impeachment is provided for in the Constitution. Those provisions for impeachment are not decorations, but instruments to effect when it is necessary.
So, just give the UPND-PF PACT a benefit of doubt as they do their work. Just a reminder to all, even the Information Minister for Saddam Hussein during the last USA-UK war on Iraq used to make jokes about his government sending the allied forces back in bags as dead men, but where is he today?
As for president HH and the PACT’s development plan, just go to Zambia and see how they are doing things.
Be blest.
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Mwe bantu!!! I dont think HH failed to answer. No, he didnt want to devulge any information. HE is a avoiding a situation where the RB team will be prepared with defence once they know in advance the details of the impeachment. Actually thats a clever way of doing things.
Since Rupiah Banda became the president of Zambia: Salaries of Mps, cabinet ministers and himself where increased
2. Over 900 miners or more have lost there jobs
3.Unza & CBU tuition fees have been increased
4. 5.The price of mealie has sored
6. The kwacha has depreciated
7. Inflation has risen to an alarming level
No one needs a mobile cheeky and arrogant president. If impeachment fails… well then, that kneel prolem can do us some justice.
#32, Mrs. maestro fimofimo uleumfwa!
The story has been fished out of a government newspaper,what do you expect, Times of Zambia to praise Hichilema?even if he had reasons for the impeachment they would have found something else negative to say about him
Red Lipstick – the way you put it is like Zambia was a paradise before RB came into power? Most of those problems you highlight have been with us for a long time and can not only be blamed on RB.
#44, you are very right…is LT state owned as well???
#17 &v #18 muleumfwa
#37, Yambayamba, my greetings to you.
You see, If HH was a joker as you put it, he would not have given up his job as director and being part of board of directors for many Zambian companies. In that line I believe he is a decided man for politics and leadership . Rupiah Banda has made himself deaf to the cry of many Zambians and this has annoyed many people to the point of threatening to impeach him. Leave the impeachment to the parliamentarians alone!
Those of you saying HH is not saying why the pact wants to impeach RB because he does not want to forearm the govt are very naive. Do you honestly think that the govt has no spies lingerin around the opposition? I think this situation is unfortunate because we are not examining issues that affect ordinary people but looking at who want to reside at plot 1. There so many things that need to be discussed. This time could be better used by the opposition in building up support around the country and solidifying the pact itself which I still think is rather weak. By the way, a Sata bali kuti?
language will always land some pipo in trouble.. HH did not FAIL but DECLINED to categorically state what the grounds for the impeachment motion were (are)… are the two one and the same thing?
#45,am not saying it was paradise dear, honeslty, the situation has worsened.the most hurting thing is RB seems not to be bothered about the happenings other than talking about one independent newspaper everyday.
44 Ichikwanka greetings. I like your good observation “what do you expect, Times of Zambia to praise Hichilema?” in form of a question.
Such behaviour by the GRZ owned media is what causes unnecessary tension in our country for instead of writing development news properly, they are busy fueling untold bickering between the MMD GRZ President RB Banda Administration and the opposition PACT members.
Whatever the case, I am impressed at the way I have silenced the ill-motived batch of MMD Chief Bootlicker, Free-Market-Economist and persona and hope they have learnt to be more assertive next time.
Have a blessed day all.
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wow….talk about lost souls! and to even imagine that you empties are the future leaders !! no wonder cycle matter keeps bouncing back on the political scene.
Maestro i salute you.
Maestro #52
Silenced me in what sense? All I said was I wanted to read what you had to write about the story. I never said anything about responding to what you had to write about the story.
Please explain how you have silenced me??
This article above was originally written by the Times of Zambia and it clearly understood why it says HH failed to state reason for impeachment. From the story one can deduce that the reporter one HH to say something but but he was not interested in answering that question. Not willing to answer and failing to answer are two different issues. Let sense take precedence over nonsense. It is also becoming clear that this Lusaka Times website is biased in reporting, everyday we read of government pronouncements and very little of developmental issues or problems that people are facing. Please be original and not biased
Reading through some of the bloggers’ views one can tell who is benefitting from Rupiah Banda’s hopelessness and dictatorial practices. Can anyone of Banda’s beneficiaries tell us just one good service that this president has done for the people of Zambia since assuming office? He is ripe for impeachment for breach of the constitution by his appointing to office of people with questionable characters.
#50, King Pharaoh,
I agree with you.
Perhaps you should teach these journalist the meaning of English words.
Our journalists tend to rush into conclusions without understanding anything.
In many cases they report according to their wishful thinking.
I believe there is some propaganda going on on this whole story.
Red Lipstick points out on #42 that the MP’s salaries where increased. What she (I am assuming its a female I am talking about) forgets to add is that the opposition MP’s voted for the motion to increase the salaries.
Red Lipstick also points on point 2, 6 and 7 and she excludes the global financial crisis which has led to the slump in the copper price.
Concerning her point on number 5, she forgets to add that the maize crisis was not caused by RB’s administration and is going to be countered due to the maize surplus we have this year and the FRA commencing the maize buying process.
I cannot comment on her point on number 3 because I do not have verifiable data on this claim.
Red Lipstick makes her comment as if RB is the root cause of these problems. Silly really.
I can see there are very few bloggers here that would make good Military Generals. Dont mistake HH’s silence that he is being meek and some even saying his tail is in between his legs. If HH had to give his reasons for impeachement, the PACT would lose the element of surprise, which is a very powerful tool in defeating your enemies (eg Shaka). I respect his silence on the matter, as Bemba’s say, (even if HH is tonga) – taba landa sana.
…….is it impeachable to have a monkey urinate on you???
53 BOMA ni BOMA greetings and thanks for your “Maestro i salute you“.
Just follow closely the sick character called Free-Market-Economist and persona. It may not be surprising to learn that the duo is just one person seeking my attention.
However, I will teach them an untold lesson that they will live to remember.
Have a blessed day all.
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Well, well, well, #40 Maestro Hakucincha, I think the operative word in your posting is “NECESSARY”!! You are right about constitutional instruments, and impeachment being one of them. But can you tell me what it is that the president has committed to NCESSITATE such a constitutional remedy??
By the way, why should crimes rising to the level of “impeachable offenses” be such a big secrete?!!! If the opposition has evidence, and can substantiate their claims, then let them tell the nation what these crimes are so that people don’t accuse them of being POWER HUNGRY, simple!!!!!
#51 -Red lipstick things have got worse for all of us in the world due to the global recession. Chances are that whoever was in power at this time would have had the same problems as RB. I dont think miners losing their jobs is due to RB. Inflation is not that high atleast by African standards (dont forget Zimbabwe). In any case the reasons you give are not impeachable. Just because you think somebody is not doing a good job does not mean that is an impeachable offence. Additionally, I think to cement democracy in Zambia, the call for impeachment should be coming from ordinary people not MPs in parliament. Remember how the whole country stood together against Chiluba’s third term bid that was supported by Sata? Do ordinary people know what impeachment is?
49 Peter Chipango greetings and on your “By the way, a<b<[-]Sata bali kuti?“, check today’s POST on the impeachment of President RB Banda message.
The brother honourable PF self-appointed leader MC Sata (Grade 2/6, unknown) has released data that has culminated in a nice Editorial Comment by the POST.
What is impressive is that he has made mention that some MMD MPs are with the UPND-PF PACT in trying to impeach President RB Banda. Let us wait and see what will happen.
I wish all people involved in the impeachment plan and those to be affected all the very best. Zambia shall be save to borrow Dr Never’s words.
Have a blessed day all.
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Losing popularity before campigns start?????
49 Peter Chipango greetings and on your “By the way, a[-]Sata bali kuti?“, check today’s POST on the impeachment of President RB Banda message.
The brother honourable PF self-appointed leader MC Sata (Grade 2/6, unknown) has released data that has culminated in a nice Editorial Comment by the POST.
What is impressive is that he has made mention that some MMD MPs are with the UPND-PF PACT in trying to impeach President RB Banda. Let us wait and see what will happen.
I wish all people involved in the impeachment plan and those to be affected all the very best. Zambia shall be save to borrow Dr Never’s words.
Have a blessed day all.
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Ghostrider – the opposition wish to impeach the president is now public knowledge. If they have a case against him, it is our right as Zambians citizens to know what that case is. So you think it would be correct for them to keep tight lipped as to the offence Banda has committed until the motion comes up in parliament? Doesn’t the Zambian public have a right to debate the impeachable offence amongst themselves and with their representatives the MPs? Lets not forget that MPs are supposed to speak on behalf of the people that voted them into office. So keeping quiet about this very important issue goes against all democratic principles.
62 Yambayamba greetings. On your “But can you tell me what it is that the president has committed to N[E]CESSITATE such a constitutional remedy?… By the way, why should crimes rising to the level of “impeachable offen[c]es” be such a big secrete?” I am surely you have heard or read the phrase “speed kills” before. In light of this (self-proclaimed Prof. on LT, if I am not mistaken), I am not PART of the MPs to move the impeachment motion neither am I part of the PACT membership and lastly they proceedings of impeachment will be public should they be done.
In case you ain’t aware, there is a free Parliament radio broadcast.
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#58…i knew you were going to say the global crunch…what a way to run from real issues. With or without the crunch, RB’s administration has lamentably failed. Really i thought you had brains , but alas. I now inderstand what Maestro refers to. funny indeed! And it looks as though Free market licker, yambayamba and persona are one and the same.
Bloggers, I am so disturbed with the poisoning of ex intelligence chief, Xaviour chungu! Not that I support him as an individual but I feel his blood “is spilled” by the late president. Why? I do not think it is good to take an intelligence chief to an open court! I do not mean he shouldn’t have been interrogated, I feel it should have been done in another way. The way things atand now is that its either he goes to jail for ever or killed ( as is his poisoning today – today’s POST). Even his wife died in mysterious circumstances! May someone share with me on this issue!
Red Lipstick – please get your head out of the sand. Global credit crunch is real. Why do you think companies like BA and GM are in trouble? Have you seen the latest unemployment figures in the US, UK and Japan? Even our neighbour South Africa is officially in a recession now and many miners there have lost their jobs. In Botswana they have had to cut the production of diamond due to falling demand. Now if you can have a formula for a poor country like Zambia not to be affected by such a recession then maybe you should aim for plot one yourself.
Maestro – please enlighten me as to what happens if RB loses power. Does he end up being charged on some criminal offence. Does Kunda automatically become president or does the country face another expensive election?
68 Red Lipstick greetings. On your “Really i thought you had brains , but alas. I now inderstand what Maestro refers to. funny indeed!, impressive and I tell you what now I know how to deall with insulting characters and if you just follow their writing or talk nicely, you will always know that the truth is not in them.
One trait they have is that they resort to insults when they can not debate with points.
Whoever sponsors them is a terrible loser and that is why Judgment Day is prepared for the Devil and his evil agents.
I just hope they will change for “what shall it profit a man to gain the whole world but lost his life”.
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Red Lipstick #58
Calling me names or insulting my intelligence is not going to make my rebuttal to your unsubstantiated claims wrong. If you had any morals, you would address the rebuttals I have given with informed rebuttals instead of the knee-jerk ad hominem responses you have given.
Calling me a “free market licker” does not make my claim that the slump in the cooper price (caused by the GEC) resulted in the loss of jobs and depreciation of the Kwacha any wrong. If truly I have no brains then it should not be difficult to refute my claim instead of the knee jerk responses you have given. I have not run form the issues but I have added some information which you omitted to spread some more light on the “issues”. You cherry picked in your comment on #42.
#48 WE CAN: I appreciate your insights.
I really don’t doubt or question the sincerity and genuineness of HH’s political efforts. What I am concerned about is the amount of energy and political capital him and his colleagues are spending on what we all know are fruitless efforts to get rid of RB. Giving 24hr ultimatums and threatening impeachments based on flimsy reasons are only the quickest way to loosing credibility as an aspiring presidential candidate. And yes, if someone keeps yapping about things that are clearly POLITIKING than real issues, people will begin to think he/she is just another JOKER!!!! HH has a lot of potential to galvanize the younger generation for political change in 2011, but he needs to seize to be trivial in his approach to the task at hand!!!!
should be #68 and not #58
#69,Tshombe
The Shushushus should stop poisoning poeple!
I don’t wish to go into more details on this point.
71 Kalembo kanga greetings. On your “Maestro – please enlighten me as to what happens if RB loses power“, we are not at that stage yet. As for “Does he end up being charged on some criminal offence“, in case a sitting President is found wanting, s/he relinguishes her/is position and the rest I don’t know though the law must take its course. On “Does Kunda automatically become president or does the country face another expensive election?, again I can’t limit my discourse to a name because Minister of Justice Vice President G. Kunda is human and may not be Veep always. Anyway, Veep takes over for 90 days and then elections.
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74 Yambayamba, following your “Giving 24hr ultimatums and threatening impeachments based on flimsy reasons are only the quickest way to loosing credibility as an aspiring presidential candidate. And yes, if someone keeps yapping about things that are clearly POLITIKING than real issues, people will begin to think he/she is just another JOKER!.. HH has a lot of potential to galvanize the younger generation for political change in 2011, but he needs to seize to be trivial in his approach to the task at hand!…“, is LT your only source of news?
Do you phone call people in most parts of Zambia to find out how president HH is reaching them?
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Maestro your point in the post in which Sata states he has support from MMD mps for the impeachment should also be taken with a pinch of salt because the Post just like the two govt dailies in not impartial. I think it would be healthy for democracy in Zambia if we were all informed as to the ramifications of the impeachment process should it succeed. The opposition have a duty to inform the masses as to what would happen and then decide to go along with the process if they have grass roots support. Otherwise, it looks like all they are interested in getting into power. I dont think the country can afford another divisive and expensive election and I think in the longterm an impeachment process will set a destabilising precedent for the future.
79 Kalembo kanga, on your “Maestro your point in the post in which Sata states he has support from MMD mps for the impeachment should also be taken with a pinch of salt because the Post just like the two govt dailies in not impartial“, good thought for indeed I never wrote that what he mentioned is that truth. This is why only the possible impeachment proceedings are the only ones to settle the current confusion — thus wait and see.
On “Otherwise, it looks like all they are interested in getting into power …“, this is your opinion, but the law does not need to be compromised but followed faithfully. Money can always be found.
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#74, Yambayamba,
This has been the cry of many Zambian that we need a strong opposition. Strong in the sense that they explain to majority Zambians (the illiterate and Kaponyas) and to the few educates what they intend to do. So far the effort has not been good enough. Our hope is that the PACT will perhaps make a difference. Impeaching RB is really never a priority that is why HH (in my opinion) declined to answer and instead said RB should concentrate on solving national problems. The PACT has a long way to go!
79 Kalembo kanga, on your “I dont think the country can afford another divisive and expensive election and I think in the longterm an impeachment process will set a destabilising precedent for the future” and my “Money can always be found“, I remember the British Government offered to fund last year’s presidential by-election including other well-wishers. So what can be so un-special for them and others to fail to fund a new presidential by-election this time? As a matter of fact on money support, US President B. Obama just mentioned about support from his country when we Africans do good governance by using working institutions.
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hey dudes and dudettes, its pretty obvious this was a case of non-info-divulgence. do u in your rite minds skim HH can fail to answer such a query? u dont see defence counsel or prosecutors go out dishing out details of their strategy to the press, specially not the Times, before court day. They will issue standard, expected statements and then produce their 4000 paged dossiers in court, I mean come on!!
maestro’s threats against the free market dude are pretty hilarious…
79 Kalembo kanga, after all, this is not the first time a Zambian President may be subjected to an impeachment motion. Late (former) President LP Mwanawasa was subjected to impeachment proceedings, but won his continued rule of Zambia convincingly after a vote.
Thus, there is really nothing to fear about the impeachment motion, but every gain even to become more confident in discharging his job should it happen that President RB Banda is made to pass through the impeachment proceedings and win the vote.
Such behaviour of not respecting our laws is that one that has led to past retirement aged Chief Justice and judge Chitengi continued serving.
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#67, Maestro Hakucincha : I have never claimed to be a professor anywhere on this blog. If you have evidence of that, I will gladly accept your derogatory approach to what is supposed to be a civil discussion and exchange of ideas. Otherwise I will be force to believe things other bloggers say about you—-and I rarely engage people at that level.
As for the impeachment crap: Really, don’t you wanna know what is being done in your name as a citizen of Zambia before it is done?! Shocking!!
By the way, how can I claim to be a professor with only a grade 4 education like “King Cobra Sata,” LOL, LOL, LOL??!! Thanks for your input though. Study hard my man!!!
We can,
thanks! I have followed your line of debate. I like it. It is mature! I just feel pity for the fella!
79 Kalembo kanga, continuing on Such behaviour of not respecting our laws is that one that has led to past retirement aged Chief Justice and judge Chitengi continued serving. This is why I miss late Levy P. Mwanawasa as President of Zambia for he clearly stated that his Administration was a GRZ of laws and he was a “(lawyer wama lawyer) layer of lawyers“.
While late LP Mwanawasa had his problems, he at least allowed the law to be respected and did his best for Zambia whatsoever happened in the back door.
His appointment of now President, but then Vice President RB Banda may have been not very good, but a blessing in disguise.
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Anyway, it is late and I am going to bed. Got a long day tomorrow.
Have a good day bloggers.
#81, WE CAN: Now you are talking, bro!!! That is exactly what the opposition need to concentrate on. I agree with you 100%!!!
84 dudelove, continu greetings. On your “maestro’s threats against the free market dude are pretty hilarious…” I am impressed but truly writing I wonder why characters are so obsessed at trying to demean my person and contribution to this fora. I this why I do not take kindly at those that seek to paint a terrible picture of me.
Having written this, I wish you all the very best and keep well as you enjoy the lessons I am imparting on the ill-motivated charaters.
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84 dudelove, my hearty greetings to you. On your “maestro’s threats against the free market dude are pretty hilarious…” I am impressed but truly writing I wonder why characters are so obsessed at trying to demean my person and contribution to this fora. I this why I do not take kindly at those that seek to paint a terrible picture of me.
Having written this, I wish you all the very best and keep well as you enjoy the lessons I am imparting on the ill-motivated charaters.
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lekeni ukulila mwebana ba prof nabesa mukumilubula.
#76 We can
The New England Historic Genealogical Society reveals that Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins!!!
86 Yambayamba thanks for your “#67, Maestro Hakucincha : I have never claimed to be a professor anywhere on this blog. If you have evidence of that, I will gladly accept your derogatory approach to what is supposed to be a civil discussion and exchange of ideas.” However, I thought my “In light of this (self-proclaimed Prof. on LT, if I am not mistaken),…” was clear. If this is derogatory, then I am afraid you need to revisit that word by checking its meaning in an English dictionary.
As for “Thanks for your input though. Study hard my man!!!” Thank you very much. Together let us all move Zambia real forward.
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#17 and #18 you are just fools who hate someone with out a reason. Do you know you think he really failed. Diferentiate between failure and reservation.
On impeaching RB, from what I have gathered there is a good number of people that, as stated, are not seeing the direction to which Rupiar is taking this country. I included! There has been a feeling of insecurity in many, coupled with RB’s reckless handling of public affairs, people feel we must have someone more trustworthy and more predictable in his actions. Thence, the call to “crucify” the man.
Furthermore, 2011 does not mean automatically removing him from office, already he is out issueing NRCs to his three strongholds, Eastern, Western and N.Western. This is being labled “rigging” and therefore the opposition would not wait to be embarrassed again but use the nearest available weapon. That’s my view!
maestro dude, mbo chibede chiisi badala, nkwile kulanga
Maestro – depending on others to fund our elections is really not the way to go in this day and age. Why not wait till 2011? Opposition dont have policies and have yet to cement their pact. Their vision is to get RB out of State House and then what? Does HH now believe in building housese in 90 days and more money in people’s pockets? What does he think about Chinese investors? How much money would he have awarded the nurses and the people at UNZA?
#86 Yambayamba: remain (meaning you were) objective my friend. discuss the issue and leave the tissues to them that have the time for tissues. but honestly impeachment or no impeachment, we must have alternative (not the gun) means of keeping the pressure on those we entrusted with servantship (servitude?) of leading this country. a tribunal composed of supreme court justices rule but a lower high court’s subsequent rulling becomes paramount?, supreme court rules and finds someone culpable for having misused CD funds (and recommends prosecution!) yet we are told such a culpable entity is noble, need i quote more? I can not afford to LOL !!
98 dudelove ndalumba kapati musa. Ino ndilibajisi amaanza obile boonse balemba izyabuyanga alindime. Sebapi kabaaka kakuyoyela pe.
Kamupona kabotu basa ooko. Calino ndibaleko izyacikolo.
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#96, yo point is good, nice reasoning but pls dont call pipo fools, just leave them in their ignorance
99 Kalembo kanga, on your “Maestro – depending on others to fund our elections is really not the way to go in this day and age. Why not wait till 2011?” While depending on others is not good I just gave them as examples. However, Zambia has money for a presidential by-election even in the MP gratuity money.
Your “Opposition dont have policies and have yet to cement their pact. Their vision is to get RB out of State House and then what? …” is nothing for the PACT is not one political party but two different ones. Of course, they are still harnessing their manifestos, but last year’s campaigns promises are still varied clearly.
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maestro ninshimbi .nishani panicking .the liberian fimo fimo found the sitting lady president with case and have bared her from holding office for thirty years.banda has breached the constitution and you are busy defending him and asking for explainations.what explainations .no one is above the law ,brother.maestro uleumfwika bwino
#94, Chapwa
That is good, but really that is non of my business. My business is with the content of his speech which he delivered in Ghana on 11th July 2009 to guide African leaders on how to go about nation building. The failure by African leaders to build their countries has not only concerned us, but him as well. He is willing to help if we are willing to be helped. He wants us to know how to catch fish and not only how to eat it. That speech is recommended for every Zambian. If we don’t understand that speech now, our future generation will really question us.
There’s no legal backing for an impeachment, but the trueth is that RB has no plan and is on holiday enjoyimh his retirement benefits-the presidency itsself
104 fumbi greetings and thanks for your “maestro ninshimbi .nishani panicking … no one is above the law ,brother.maestro uleumfwika bwino“.
You know what I do not have any problem with anyone but when they seek to throw mad at me, I defend myself by showing them that they need to be more assertive than come to me with attacks in an ill-prepared manner.
Anyhow, I have to now continue working on my thesis and so keep well and take careful care always.
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#66 Kalembo Kanga – I agree with you totally and yes we do have the right to know. But having noted your comments, the decision to impeach the President is a serious and sensitive matter and i think these guys have reasons to do it but they need to package their ammo in a presentable way. If he starts blurting out reasons that arent concrete enough he will be slaughtered by his political opponents.
He was rght not to state any reason.The MMD is well know for Hogwash talk in Mulongoti, Teta and Shikapwasha.. The reasons will be table in Parliament should this be decided. lupiya is a disgrace
#110, I agree with you entirely. Don’t warn the pig otherwise it will scream and get away with it. Just table the matter in Parliament and see what comes off it.
#95, Maestro Hakucincha: Look, I completely understand what the word “derogatory” means. It explains exactly what you meant by insinuating that I am a “SELF-PROCLAIMED……..”!!!! You are the one who needs to consult a Dictionary, bro!!
DEROGATORY: Deliberately offensive; detracting or disparaging (Oh, do I also need to explain what detracting & Disparaging mean??) By the way, this is from my trusted “The Torment Webster’s Illustrated Encyclopedic Dictionary”
Hard to converse with people who have an inflated ego, huh!!!
Dont just be debating bamakaka muleya namukuvota
111 Yambayamba, on your “It explains exactly what you meant by insinuating that I am a “SELF-PROCLAIMED……..”!!!! You are the one who needs to consult a Dictionary, bro!!“, why I are leaving out the ending part in “(self-proclaimed Prof. on LT, if I am not mistaken)“?
Is it because you have failed to understand the simple English Language in my sentence? Kindly, re-read my submission to you in posting #96 above instead of putting up weak defence to your “derogatory” term.
Impressive enough, I leave it here for you and the on-lookers to judges as to whom is right on this “derogatory” issue with regard to my writing on #68.
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#109 – We are living in a democracy. If they have truth on their side then let them show us what we are impeaching the govt for. After all if an MP wants to impeach the president he or she is doing it on my behalf as I am the one who put them in office. Also, how have the ordinary people been involved in this whole process? How many people in Chibolya, Chadiza or Kasempa know what ‘impeachment’ means? Maestro says that the opposition are still hammering out the pact and yet they have time to be discussing this process. So what happens the day after if the impeachment is successful? Elections? Infighting between UPND and PF? What about the views of those Zambians who voted and support MMD and RB?
and for those reading only from LT ,Open the post its free till further notice .you will find why i find banda empeacheable.MMD slogan still is the hour has come -the question is the hour has come for what -for stealing ,for taking people for granted ,for always twisting the arm of law .wake up ,its nothing personal but a deep belief that someone can do better than banda .for me HH,SATA is a good combination ,whoever is president betwwen the two will certainly have the blessings of the majority of the people .
114 Kalembo kanga, on your “Maestro says that the opposition are still hammering out the pact and yet they have time to be discussing this process. So what happens the day after if the impeachment is successful? Elections? Infighting between UPND and PF? ” Leave that fighting or sorting to the UPND-PF PACT members and concentrate on what you support and vote accordingly when time for elections come.
As for “What about the views of those Zambians who voted and support MMD and RB? They will decide on what to do for themselves when events unfold regarding to the fate of President RB Banda. Stop panicking and wait for things to happen.
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” See them fighting for power, but they know not the hour” –RN. Marley. These politicians we have make me sick. The opposition seems to be jumping on every word to side track GRZ. Do opposition MPs not do any work execpt oppose GRZ at every turn ?. Show us development data for you consituencies to impress us instead of showing how argumentative you are.
Impeach, impeach , impeach ? ? what of the words” development in your areas ???” what have you done better then MMD Mps ????. I think they are going about being in opposition the wrong way. Pleas jounalists based in Zambia, i will pay your expenses if you can dig for infromation about MPs and works being carried out in their areas, which works are complete, which are stalled etc etc.
#101, King Pharaoh : Thanks for your sentiments.
I do agree with you that things back home are really not running the way they are supposed to. That is why we need an opposition that is a “well oiled machine” and with a built up reservoir of credibility so people can have a truly genuine alternative to MMD in 20011. Politicking and gutter politics will discredit everybody, and in such an environment MMD will no doubt have it easy again.
Impeachment or no impeachment, I think Lupiya Banda is a worst leader we have had thus far. I prefer the former option to the latter one.
Please we need Change Lupiya Tudila Band must go at all Cost. THE TIME TO CHARGE HAS COME. NOT THE HOUR HAS COME.
hahahaha #119 – Monalisasyndrome, just a small point of correction, he is the worst head of state! Do not use the word leader and Rupiya Banda in the same sentence, he can become big headed!
As Maestro has said the pact is still being hammered out, seems to me the only thing they agree about is getting Banda out of state house. If people feel that is a good enough basis to bring political instability to the country then I fear for mother Zambia. To me impeachment is just a polite way of saying ‘coup’. Why not sort yourselves out and be ready for 2011? Zambians can be so dramatic and emotional – look around our continent and see what really bad leaders are capable of.
Since he took up office eight months ago, the country is becoming more and more polarised due to his decisions and indecision alike. The country is tilted toward bickering at the expense of development. He has failed to unite the people.
I think the headline is misleading. Why didn’t they say HH refuses to give reasons. This story is from the Times of Zambia and I can see how much the media misleads people and how masses take so many things at face value.
#124 – I guess when you say the ‘media miselads people’ you also mean the Post?
111/118 Yambayamba, in case you forget easily, you wrote:
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152 Yambayamba. #48, 52…..64, 68….121…etc, Maestro Hakucincha: So you have been to school and educated—-wow!!!! Hard to tell from your everyday “blah, blah, blah, blah,” postings; partner!!!! Why take up all this “blog real state” if other readers just going to ignore what you put up??!! But again, who am I to judge, right?????”
which was very sad indeed from a big person. I did not remember responding to it for I considered it as nonsense.
Have a nice day and learn to read full English sentences to get their meaning.
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This is misleading. A Zimbabwean was attacked by a vicious dog in England. He managed to fight back and eventually killed the dog. One news paper had this headline “Brave Zimbabwean Man fights dog” while the other news paper had this headline”A Zimbabwean refugee Kills Dog”.
Monalisa syndrome that is called living in a democracy. People are allowed to have divergent views. Now if you believe that a pact that has not ironed out it’s agenda and is threatening to impeach the govt in the middle of a global recession will bring development then good luck to you. Even Mwanawasa (MSRIP) had his detractors. As much as I see that RB has made mistakes (which he is bound to), I dont see that he has done anything that is an impeachable offence. I think the opposition are basically planning a coup. Has anyone carried out any polls to see what the Zamnian public think about this administration? Are people mobilising to get Banda out of office in the way that they did when opposing Chiluba’s third term bid that was supported by Sata?
122 Kalembo kanga, your writings “To me impeachment is just a polite way of saying ‘coup’. Why not sort yourselves out and be ready for 2011? Zambians can be so dramatic and emotional – look around our continent and see what really bad leaders are capable of.” is very appalling as it shows that you are the one who is emotional and clearly lacks understanding of the Zambian Constitution and its provisions.
With such behaviour and people of your calibre Zambia can never develop.
I thus hope the PACT will win any upcoming presidential and/general elections to get rid of people with your current mentality from governing Zambia.
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Problem is some of you just read a headline without even reading the story. This headline is very misleading. The man was asked what the planned action to impeach RB was. He said he could not state. Have you ever head any coach give away his winning strategy before a game is played. This is sensational journalism at its worst and unfortunately everyone seems to have fallen for it. Daily mail still has some clever journalists after all.
#128 Kalembo, when was the last time you visited Zambia? If at all you did visit, it must have been for less than two days, may be?
The situation is bad bwana, we have no leader here!
#131 -Am not saying that Banda is the best leader the country has ever had, but impeachment is a very serious issue. The situation in Zambia has been bad since the mid 70s. I travel to Zambia on a regular basis so please dont come up with the old argument of you dont know what you are talking about. Also, I think as a Zambian citizen I should be given the reasons why a sitting president should be kicked out of power – is that not what democracy is all about? Also I think those who are aiming for high office should be able to give me their vision for the country’s future – is that too much to ask? As I have said before, it would be interesting to see how PF/UPND would have dealt with the nurse’s strike. What increment would they have given the nurses and how were they going to fund it
Maestro you yourself said that the pact is still being hammered out between PF and UPND. So on that basis one would argue that the pact is still not ready to govern yet. When exactly are they going to come up with policies regarding the future of the country? Surely, the future of the country is much to valuable to be put in the hands of those who do not yet have a vision? You can not leave the governing of the country to improvisation.
Opposition Rule 1:
Never reveal your strategy. It’ll only arm the like of Ronnie, Tetamalilo and Mulongoti who will hit you under the belt
Opposition Rule 2 follows…
Natural justice means states that if you should know what you have been accused of so that you can defend yourself. This issue is not just about the opposition’s strategy. It goes to the heart of democratic principles. Why should I as a Zambian citizen not be informed as to why a sitting president is threatened with removal from office before his or her term is up after being voted into office by the people? If the opposition is still strategising, fair enough but when will they give the citizenry tthe opportunity to debate the future of their country? Whether you live in Kabulonga, Kamwala, Kabompo, Kazimule or Kasalakabwe, every Zambian citizen should be given the opportunity to discuss this issue before it is taken to parliament. To me that is what democracy is all about.
Maestro#, I had work to do so that i can feed my small Family. You ve not shut me up . From your comments, you are self righteous individual who thinks on judgement you can survive without GRACE. I cannot apoligise for stating your true picture, One sidedness. It gives away you genuiness. If HH wants to keep his reasons to himself, then he should have just Kept Quiet. Mr Maestro, God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble
It is interesting to see how shallow minded some bloggers can be. From the artical above it is clear that HH only declined to spell out the reasons. It would actually have been very foolish of him to give out reasons at such an early stage as this and to a journalist for that matter. So those who think HH failed to give reasons should re examine their mental faculties.
132 Kalembo, I think you are missing the whole point or you are confusing yourself with the whole scenario being painted by Times of Zambia here. You can not and you should not compare the 70s to the current situation and that was the reason why I asked you when you last visited Zambia. The current problem we have, that you are trying to gloss over, is the absence of leadership, RB is simply not good enough to take us anywhere, results of his lack of leadership are already clear despite the fact that he has been in power for less than a year. If you needto know what plans others have for the country, read their manfestos. Read UPND manifesto it will give you clues of what you expect from them.
The right people to rule us dont usually want to stand because of the dirtiness of politics. Selfish people will do ANYTHING to get what they want e.g. Form a pact with an individual they publicly used to insult(to gain) and pretend hes become an angel overnight. Careful, a lot of people have died frustrated(opposition). Sata has lost 3 times, UPND four times(together 07 times). Never compromise to get what you want
LT – can we have more info on this?:
More airlines put on EU blacklist
By Joshua Chaffin
Published: July 15 2009 03:00 | Last updated: July 15 2009 03:00
Airlines from Zambia and Kazakhstan are the most recent additions to a blacklist maintained by the European Union amid concerns about safety deficiencies in their national aviation.
All carriers from those countries are to be banned in the EU, with the exception of Kazakhstan’s Air Astana, which will face severe restrictions. Four Indonesian carriers – Garuda Indonesia, Airfast Indonesia, Mandala Airlines and Premair – were removed from the list after the EU’s transport commission determined that the country had made improvements.
#135. Kalembo kanga. Is it a constitutional requirement that such a decision ought to be debated by the country’s citizenry before being tabled in parliament for a vote by our representatives(MPs)?
what kind of country is this.. we are sinking lower and lower!
HH failed to give reasons….’i can not categoricall state that’…….The only way to understand him is to hope he had his vocal cords bewitched, bana mulowa ma cadres. otherwise its just duft, how can you want to instigate impeachment and fail to ‘categorically’ stae the reasons?
There is no need to demonise HH. He did the right thing. Here is a government journalist putting you to the spot for what you know will be re-angled to save the interests of the master. The best you do is look the reporter in the face and tell them to f**k off.
On this subject “THE OPPOSITION HAVE MISSED A POINT ARE DAY DREAMING” THEY HAVE NOTHING TANGIABLE TO OFFER APART FROM NOISE MAKING. HH TIME FOR CAMPAIGNING IS OVER. DONT BE PREOCCUPIED WITH YOUR AIM OF ENTERING PLOT NO.1 “THE BROWN HOUSE” WE NEED LEADERSHIP IN VIEW OF THE MANY PROBLEMS THIS COUNTRY IS FACING AS WHOLE ITS NO LONGER PARTY POLITICS BUT NATIONAL DUTY. AT THIS RATE HH IS BURNING HIMSELF I DOUBT IF HE IS GOING TO HAVE ANY SANIT REASONING IN HIM. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE ULTMATUM HE GAVE RB TO FIRE DORIKA SAKARIA? THIS GUY IS GETTING CONFUSED WITH HIS POLITICAL AMBITIONS.
It is common for Oppo in Zed to say thing like this…impeach him. In mature democracies, a leader of HH ‘s ‘standing’. can not be careless like ward councilor. This is show that our oppo leaders are just preoccupied with going to state house. Sondashi, HH, Sata are all the same, Except Sondashi has been upfront with his intentions.
It is an exercise in futility. Those of you who think that a sitting President can be successfully impeached have another thing coming. There is no way our greedy MPs can forfeit their gratuities by supporting an impeachment motion. Surely as night follows day (unless you are at one of the Poles) the MMD MPs supporting the motion would be expelled from the MMD party if it’s defeated. They are lying to Sata. And also our judiciary is not independent. KK: Murder ceased to be a capital offence because KK’s son was sentenced to death by Judge Musumali. Peculiarity: the CJ was recalled from study leave. FTJ: the status of FTJ’s Zambian citizenship. Peculiarity: CJ and Zamtrop account. RB: the Dora Siliya saga. Peculiarity: High court judge overturned the judgement of 2 Supreme Court…
I am against the impeachment. HH is too smart to spelt out reasons carelessly. Read between the lines.
# 125 yes Post included. They are just two different sides of the same coin. The state papers are on a propaganda is say good about the govt even when it’s clearly wrong. And anything from the opposition is bad. The post rarely says anything good about the govt only difference is the Post also critises the opposition as well.
According to Sata (Post story), the following are the articles of impeachment:
1. President Banda had breached the Constitution by appointing corrupt people like Dora Siliya and Michael Mabenga as ministers.
2. RB wants to introduce a bill in Parliament to amend the Zambia Tanzania Pipeline Act to provide immunity from execution of judgments against the assets of the Tanzania Mafuta Pipeline Limited as well as provide for matters connected with or incidental to the foregoing
3. RB wants to introduce two bills to create different salary structures for politicians and those for civil servants. Sata said. “The policies he is bringing are derived from China where the politburo decide the salaries for civil servants, politicians and the Judiciary.”
LMAO!!!!
#136.Kalembo kanga. To run a country the way you envision would be so funny, almost improbable, a complete circus.
137 persona, on your “Maestro#, … You ve not shut me up . From your comments, you are self righteous individual who thinks on judgement you can survive without GRACE.“, this is the sickness I have been indicating about. I have ever mentioned that I am a sinner only save by God’s grace and here you are insulting. Very unfortunate indeed.
On “I cannot apoligise for stating your true picture, One sidedness. It gives away you genuiness. If HH wants to keep his reasons to himself, then he should have just Kept Quiet. Mr Maestro, God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” Continued in your delusion for rejecting truth.
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1 John 2 + KJV Bible
4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him
153 continued.
Following on “Continued in your delusion for rejecting truth“. Any normal regular LT blogger will agree with me that my advice is balanced with regards to concerns relating to any person in Zambia. If I do not support the activities of your preferred candidate them live with it that behaving as if you are God, my Creator, to judge me.
Therefore, I ask you to give up your current bad way of life, persona, for this will be good for you and others around you. In case you do not know accusations come from the devil and lying is his speciality. Thus, you have to be careful before he completely wins you.
Be blest.
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1 John 2 + KJV Bible
4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him
HH made the right judgement not to comment on RBs impending impeachment because he is not an MP. The government owned papers will be best served if they reported important subjects objectively.Democracy is not only practised on election day but every day
Monalisasyndrome then why do we bother to vote? I thought our MPs were OUR servants. As I said they can impeach the president if that is what the majority of people in Zambia want. Why should we not be able to discuss the basis of the impeachment as Zambian citizens? What exactly and specifically has RB done in order to be impeached? Has he killed people extra judiciously, are there political prisoners languishing in jail, has the Post been closed down? Yes, he might be incompetent and not much liked by monkeys but is that a basis for impeachment? Surely, if he is as bad as all that then why not wait till 2011 to vote him out and what exactly are the alternatives that are being offered? We still dont know who is going to head the pact and therefore the probable next leader of the country.
Looks like the Maestro madness machine is in overdrive mode, why do you offer us unsolicited prayers
Try to keep them to yourself. I know the Lord I worship and what I ask him. Maybe one of these days I must pray for you cos I seriously think you have more than one screw loose in your bongo.
157 Dende greetings my fellow Citizen. Following your “Looks like the Maestro m a d n e s s machine is in overdrive mode, why do you offer us unsolicited prayers… Try to keep them to yourself. I pray for sick people like you following the writings you have put up.
As for “Maybe one of these days I must pray for you cos I seriously think you have more than one screw loose in your bongo“, please do and I appreciate your would-be input.
Surely, there is strength in numbers and I can never refuse a noble pledge by one to pray for me.
Be blest.
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1 John 2 + KJV Bible
4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him
Now I am wondering whether we have people who have gone bananas on here.
HH is new in politics. I dont think he understands politiking. He has learn to seem to say the Truth even if not well researched. He should make RB spend sleepless nights. Thats why it said that POLITICS is a Dirty GAME. Dont be too honest HH otherwise you lose credibility with the electorate.
Maestro Hakucincha; I wonder how HH feels and thinks knowing that he is upnd president primarily bcoz he is Tonga; as it was put when he was chosen. You don’t form a part y bcoz Chiluba has dribbled you from being Bauleni MMD Chairman or bcoz Chiluba has dribbled you from being the 2001 MMD pres. candidate. If you do; without alternative policies and programmes; you know like hakasata pact; you resort to propaganda.No wonder upnd has a vp for propagandah. Maestro you a propagandah megaphone. You are also a terrible tribalist with a holier than thou atitude. This is a fact not an opinion. After 2011; hakasata will be no more.
Nimwachulenipo mukwai..
elyo lwanya nomba..
why restless??
fili eko tuleya….
161 Iron Bull greetings and thanks for your insults “No wonder upnd has a vp for propagandah. Maestro you a propagandah megaphone. You are also a terrible tribalist with a holier than thou atitude.” By God’s grace, you and me will see who will be laughing at the other after any presidential elections.
Your sickness and delusion just deserve this response and nothing for you level of comprehension is very terrible going by your posting above.
Have a blessed day though.
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1 John 2 + KJV Bible
4 He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him
Well, if the pact picks HH as their candidate, first and foremost let us find out if he smokes ganja, we know he has two women. You see ganja can make you forget stuff, may be this is what happened (above). Remember some people believed FTJ smoked the stuff. We want clearn leadership now.
164 Mwalwembe greetings. Your sickness exhibited in the insults without giving proof in “we know he has two women simply shows that the devil is in full control of you since you are lying and have accused president HH in a wily way (see John 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it and Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.)
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Matt 6:33
This story is meant to throw mad at HH but it an’t working. As far as I am concerned it is not true that he failed to give reasons for the impeachment. Besides HH is not even the architect of that pipe dream – it is that expired leader king cobra who want to tide on the good name of HH and UPND to get into power in 2011.
HH is a very power hungry individual.He thinks he has played Sata with the PF-UPND packed.However we all know that the “King Cobra” is a veteran politician who will pull a move and leave HH puzzled and lost in the Zambian political wilderness.The hunger for power has totally blinded the man from Tonga land.
#167, Independent
Can you substantiate as to why you think HH is power hungry.
# 165. Maestro Hakucincha. I didn’t mean to be negative, you are my hero here. I am on my kneels please. By the way bandala, do you still have some “Monze tea?” this viagra is breaking my back. Thanks
169 Mwalwembe greetings and good on your “I didn’t mean to be negative… By the way banothing heredala, do you still have some “Monze tea?” this viagra is breaking my back.“, I did not bring anything from home and I do not come from Monze.
Keep cool and desist from insulting.
Be blessed.
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Ephesians 6 + KJV Bible
6:12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.