The British High Commission has said that the London Judgement involving second Republican President Federick Chiluba was not a United Kingdom (UK) case.
A brief press statement from the Press and Public Affairs Section of the British High Commission today said that the London judgement was brought and pursued by the government of Zambia and not the British government.
The statement said recent reports suggest that there may be a misunderstanding with regards to the London judgment.
This was in an apparent reference to Chiluba’s UK judgement whose registration in Zambia has since been overturned by the Lusaka High Court.
The statement said that the civil trial was brought by the Attorney General of Zambia in the UK in order to recover funds which were transferred to the UK, mainly to an account held at Zambia National Commercial Bank Limited (ZANACO) in London, by the Zambia Ministry of Finance between 1995 and 2001.
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Important information is being released on Levy’s death and rumors at levymwanawasafoundation.com!
What is this? Anyway, they are clarifying that it’s not the British that commenced the trial or pushed the trial but the Zambian Govt and rightly so since within legal procedure, in a bid to RECOVER the money banked there. So the Money was and is there. Now Kafupi will quickly transfer this money. Can someone tell me whether with the London Judgement Kafupi can touch this MONEY, OUR MONEY??? If so, an Injunction must be filed quickly.
Wooooooow, whats this excitement about in the MIDGET’s camp? No one ever said this case was a British one! It was just decided in a British Court, initated by the Zambian Attorney General, for and on behald of the Zambian people, so this ka statement is a lame duck! Yaba! Now can plans be made by the Attorney General to secure our money that this MIDGET thinks is rightfully his!
Unless if the Attorney General appeals to the Zambian Supreme Court soon the dribbler could transfer those monies! There should be other international legal instruments which can be used to bar him from getting the monies, the ones used to recover Abacha and Mobutu’s lot?
When Levy saw the euphoria and rapture in the county each time Fred M’membe called Chiluba a thief, he partly used it to drive momentum for his support. In other words this was also political move from Levy’s point of view. He wanted to be his own man after being had hand picked by Chiluba
Yes, Chiluba via Xavier Chungu stole the money that cannot be denied. As lawyers, George Kunda & Levy failed to do their home work from the start.
Levy had good intentions to strip Chiluba immunity which led to all these explosives that have transpired. However, Levy did play politics to gain street and foreign popularity, especially from the donor countries. And the air waves were very good for him, especially from the EU Countries……
The irony is that the chaps that had bungled & botched this entire case were a bunch of Lawyers. Thus, Kunda, Mwanawasa and all those other lawyers those were on the advisory committee at State House.
Levy should have used some State Draconian Rule by locking up Chiluba. If he had locked up Chiluba, he was going to talk and negotiate the offer that was on the table from Levy to return part of the money. Besides, the immunity was removed and Chiluba had no defensive mechanism to play with.
Levy is the one who pursued the case in his relentless effort to put FTJ behind bars on cases which could not be proved. Even when the cases were in court Levy kept interfering by putting pressure on the courts that they were too slow to cage Chiluba. Levy (mhsrip) was full of bitterness. I think if the courts had adequate burden of proof they would have incacerated FTJ. Don’t misunderatand me am not supporting theft of public funds or even corruption.
…..Mind you, when Levy went into State House, he found stolen money left by Chiluba belonging to MMD Party. This is the money that he Levy kept and used to run his campaigns. Therefore, Levy was also guilty to some extent of using that money. If he was honest person, he should have handed that money to the state but he did not have the guts.
This shows how far Levy wanted to go to get FTJ… first get rid of FTJ immunity…then get him to attend court sessions in UK… Did levy and co think thru this one…legal and logistical issue…imagine london court summons Chungu, Stella etc london…anyway lets close this case and focus on development.
George Kunda should come out in the open and explain other wise even RB is not safe with this person as our VEEP
Which I.D.I.O.T. took this case to London in the first place? I can’t fathom that an untrained-legal mind like myself cannot see any legality in pursuing Kafupi in a foreign country when in his own country he is treated as a hero! Surprisingly, Roger Chongwe has been paid a substantial sum of money in foreign based judgment such as this lazo’s clear theft case. Perhaps it will be in order to request info from him to enlighten us?
This is dangerously annoying!! Can someone check my blood pressure please…. Im feeling breathless..!! Yaba….
#2 This is in answer to various insunuations by Kafupi’s camp and RB’s psychophants that this was a colonial trial. However the British govt our former coloniser had nothing to do with this. The fact of the matter is that the Attorney General and Justice Minister in the name of George Kunda sued Kafupi in London on the Premise that Zambian public money was wired to accounts in Britain. It is on the basis of this that evidence of illegal money transfers would more likely be found in the UK than in Zambia. In the UK records are meticulously stored. In Zambia Chiluba and his cohorts distroyed the records of their plunder. This is why Kafupi was tried in the UK and found guilty because the UK records say so.
Levy really politised this case to his advantage. Especially after taming Membe, after giving Membe money through business deals e.g Zambian Airways etc, they became friends and worked closely to destroy Chiluba. And a lot of evils that Levy was doing against this Country together with Maureen could not be reported because they were freinds. After that it was all praise from Membe even when we could see some evils being done. but one day history will be rewrtten so that people will know the truth.
Why does LT always publish news 24 hours after the Watch-dog has run it?
The whole case has nothing to do with Rupiah Banda as portrait in other media circles. This case went down the drain from the start. The only winner from all this is the lawyers that got away with outrageous fees and a lot of money has been wasted. For sure Levy had some element of intent to square with Chiluba. He got sidelined when he was as a Vice President and was over taken by Sata, which become Chiluba’s lieutenant. The authority to take this case to London came from Levy and transported by Kunda to London.
The authority to take this case to London came from Levy and transported by Kunda to London.
Thank God George kunda is still alive! Maybe he can shed light on this stupid judgement.
Which funds did someone steal from your mother’s bedroom? The case is a non-starter and is as foolish as the one who took it to a foreign court including his supporters here! If Roger Chongwe was given any money from a foreign stooge of a court’s judgment, that too was a scandal! Why is Zambia full of stone throwers who are full of hatred? This is why we lag behind. Bury your hutchets and move on!
red lips kunda..tell us ..stop moving with vaseline in ur jacket atase..u stole our money!
It is simple! Levy was a JOKER and a great plunderer with his taskforce. The clarification from the embassy is clear….judgement was done in london so what have they been waiting for all along b4 they could recover embezzled funds which are in UK banks.
GET THE MONEY FROM UK FIRST BEFORE YOU REGISTER JUDGEMENT HERE, DONT DECIEVE US YOU ARE JOKERS.
Forget about FTJ and concentrate on development.
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This is confusing. Just a few days ago, I was on a different mindset regarding this case. Now it is getting more plain to see that someone here is trying to hoodwink the people of Zambia in the name of international justice.If there’s anything wrong with Africa, then it’s definately about African leaders and how they are protected by the governments.
The corruption and greed of these leaders, their unfairness and how they treat the poor is simply unbearable. The judiciary is now also appearing to be at the heart of a conspiracy, betraying the very norms that they are supposed to be upholding. In times like these, only the Media can awaken the masses to what is actually going on behind the smokescreen. We need the truth and nothing but the truth.
#21 Laston, as a nation, we can only develop if there are equal rights and the scales of justice are balanced. There can never be development, much less peace and stability, in a society where the majority of people feel that the scales of justice are slant.
iF levy WAS REALLY SERIOUS WHY DIDNT HE RECOVER FUNDS IN LONDON AND OTHER COUNTRIES WHICH CHILUBA STOLE BUT INSTEAD WAIT FOR REGISTRATION IN ZAMBIA.
CHILUBA MAY HAVE STOLEN BUT LEVY AND TASKFORCE MISHANDLED THE CASE. NO WONDER NOT EVEN A SINGLE CASE HE MENTIONED INPARLIAMENT WHEN LIFTING IMMUNITY WAS BROUGH TO COURT BUT INSTEAD BROUGH A MEAGER US$500,0000( THIS IS MOCKERY)
LEVY WAS NOT SERIOUS PERIOD……… SO CHILUBA IS A FREE MAN BECAUSE OF RECKLESSNESS OF THE SO CALLED LEVY & TASK FORCE & BLAIR.
The so-called LEVY MWANAWASA Website is a total FAKE that has been designed by evil-minded people. Its drag-n-drop and can help a total amatuer make a website in under 30minutes. I really dont beleieve it being made by the Mwanawasas coz professionally a website is supposed to be complete with separate HTML pages, images etc for it to be launched. Nice try guys
Iwe no.1, there no information on that website. All those tabs/headings are linking me to completely blank pages.
No. 26 is correct – there is no information on the so-called mwanawasa.com. I’ve just been there …
There is no such money. If it was there it would have been recovered when the London judgment was made. After all, it was a judgment in Britain by a British court. And if it is there, the $45million, how would Chiluba access it? How come the British court did not establish which British bank was keeping it? Looks like we are so lazy and poverty stricken that we have started thinking with our feet, seeing a mirage of wealth where there is none. Someone is right, let’s concentrate on development that is where the money is. Reminds me of a proverb where a lazy man (no names please) whose father told him to dig in the fields to find hidden treasure, which turned out to be the man’s crop harvest after so much digging.
Tell us more ba zungu ma British if you have anything tangible to say. Let’s not talk in parables, what exactly are you saying? No one has accused you of anything, but it looks like the case has touched a raw nerve. Next you will be saying withhold donor aid when all that you need to do is confiscate that money from your banks and give it back to us. If the money is real, and if it exists, that is.
#28 Come on, is the lazy man the same as the 90 days economic miracle?
BREAKING NEWS
Christians see the inside heart and spirit of these pro-gay and lesbian anti-Christ in PF. Can they preside over our Christian nation of Zambia?
“People believe that Jesus will come, but I don’t believe that myself. So, that is a none issue,” Sata’s hand picked and appointed PF secretary General Winter Kabimba said
No one ever said this was a British case. For once, we as Zambians need to start taking responsibility over what happens in this Country. How can we honestly allow this rubbish to continue happenning and yet we do nothing. Docility will not lead us anywhere. We need to rise up, say ENOUGH and ENOUGH and DEMAND FOR JUSTICE on ALL THIEVES. That’s not the fight the British should fight for us, we need to do that ourselves.
I am not sure if my fellow countrymen can see what is in front of them based on most of the posts here. Yes Levy ‘went after’ Chiluba, but it was beyond doubt that Chiluba had stolen from YOUR COUNTRY. The registering of the judgement was essential in part because some of the assets were in Zambia, and you could only confiscate them by having the judgement recognised in Zambia. The failure to register the decision could be either due to law or merit of the case – I am not sure in this case, but what it means is that ZANACO London might be closed or the bank fined for money laundering. You have a simple choice, accept the local court judgement and your only Zambian bank will be turnished for money laundering or learn that glogalisation comes with global responsibilities.
The LevyMwanawasaFoundation.com is in line with the foundation principles. It has information only released a few hours ago regarding rumors and secrets in the LPM adminstration. Its stunning!
#31 No they can’t! I am really appalled by this really average human being – why he brought Christ into his mumble-jumble — I have no idea. Probably to show how the atheists have become so strong in Zambia. I feel so sad for him. They will never ever, repeat, never ever run Zambia.
Zambia is not an island for some of you to think it is impossible to register this case. Zambia is a member of interpol and other organisations involved in organised crimes. It is there under this connections that if Pafi had stolen from Zambia and goes to France to live because of dipromatic tires and other agreed frame works pafi can be tbrought back to Zambia. The judicial system in Zambia is sad chapter and if this was 1990-91 the mmd wouldn’t have survived from the man today championing anarchy and destabilising the country William Banda. Anyway many with links to the Ruling Party are happy despite been given post in foreign missions by the person they are now calling names who can not defend himself (levy). Kunda is here no one is calling him names why he is part of the corrupt…
The remaining sentence is corrupt govt
Mwata you are one of the useless and clueless chap on this blog. The all story is not about your contributions. Your corrupt govt and judicial are a source of anarchy and troubles . Chiluba still remains a chief and George is a snake with double heads . Rupiah has to pay much attention to this guys moves before he faces the same cases.
Some of these bloggers are such dullards. Is there any need to hypothosize when its very clear what the london judgement states. Chiluba and his hench men were found to have stolen money after thorough invistigations in London.Full stop. Wht our government has failed/refused to do is to register it. Do you need to look any further. Its no wonder our country is in such a mess, the so called intelligentia are just numb skulls.
Well done British High Commissioner for this information. The zambian govt brought the case to London George Kunda should explain tothe zambians what happened to the money that chiluba and company stole. Today GK is rubbing shoulders with the thieves that stole zambian peoples money what type of a person in. George Kunda should not be trusted and his ARV’s are affecting the way he thinks, so zambians beware. A word of warning for the donors too. Do not send any money now until there change of government as all the money will go the mmd.
#33 Joseph “The registering of the judgement was essential in part because some of the assets were in Zambia, and you could only confiscate them by having the judgement recognised in Zambia.”
Your statement implies that the rest of the assets (major part) were in UK or Europe. Since there was no need to register the matter in UK, why didn’t you recover the assets there? This just goes to show that most of such bloggers don’t even know what they talking about and they expect everybody to believe them.
no 41 thats exactly the point most of the guys are so dull and unschooled. Read even what the Post says ‘zambian government instituted CIVIL proceedings and not criminal proceedings in London’. Now if the money was in London why did they not just confiscate the money??? and also if the reason for taking the case to UK was because most of the funds went through ZANACO London branch then why do you need to register the judgement in Zambia? really this is so straightforward a case of excited lawyers who were trying to impress foreign powers and exposed our security system to ridicule. mutembo and membe have a lot to answer for as they know that Kunda was against this london case and he was over ruled by Levy and Mukelabai was fired and killed over the same. the time will come the whole…
when the whole truth shall be revealed. the brits are trying to pre-empt whats coming next
A lot of people are suspicious about the turn of events, as CCZ we are also suspicious like I have explained, we do not understand why people should run to the UK to do something they knew was useless,” reverend mutale said.
“What is also confusing us is that the lawyers, the legal brains in government that were commissioned by the President (Levy Mwanawasa) who was also a lawyer, did they not know at that time that it was a useless exercise, we want to know. We are therefore demanding for a comprehensive explanation of what happened and which legalities they referring to which they didn’t check before they went to the UK.”
viva FTJ now go and get those moneys to be used in MMD’S campaign so that we bury these baboons Pacteers if there is any pact.
Pipo,why should we talk much over something we do’nt Know ,George Kunda is Silenct and can’t make any statement,he can’t even defend Levy’s stance.He is a betrayer and toothless lawyer.
Do we honestly expect something worthwhile from our current crop of leaders ! Its like expect to squeeze water out of a rock !
Hamaundu, the assets in the UK could have been confiscated if the Zambian Government had pursued this avenue. Registering the judgement in Zambia was also relevant to other defendants in the case. I know for a fact that some assets were identified in Europe, that had been obtained in an irregular manner. The funds that were in Zanaco as far as I am aware are still in a frozen account, hence my observation that the bank could be fined or closed for money laundering activities. Please do not think I am dull I am just giving my opinion based on information available to me at the moment. From reading further, my understanding is that the refusal to register the judgement is purely procedural, the state tried to register the judgement under the wrong laws.
IWE # 21 HOW DO YOU CONCENTRATE ON DEVELOPMENT WHEN CASH MEANT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS USED TO BUY DESIGNER SUITS AND HIGH HEELED SHOES? TATWAKALEKE UKULANDAPO UNTIL JUSTICE IS SEEN……..SEEN……TO BE DONE…..JUST WAIT FOR 2011…….WINA AZAVINA PELETE!!!!!!!! KABILI NO MUTIMA WALIPOLA…..
This was a case of money laundering which is illegal in the UK, Her Majesty’s government will never release this money to Kafupi. As for Hamaundu and Chinyama, commissions of inquiry await them once Banda is out of power.
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