THE Barotseland Agreement has generated debate in Zambia with various interested parties expressing their views on the matter. Today we reproduce Lusaka lawyer Christopher Mundia’s statement on the agreement.
I wish to state that as one of those that hail from Western Province better known as Barotseland; I am always disgusted to listen to what comes out of Bishop Duffy’s mouth which is akin to a can of worms.
Bishop Duffy and other Catholic clergy cannot speak for the people of Barotseland and Bishop Duffy may not be a Zambian and therefore his allegiance to the Zambian people is minimal.
It is also strange that the Catholic Church with highly educated clergy has chosen to proclaim dooms day language instead of counselling and telling the people the truth.
It has been strange to find that a clergyman who is educated in theology wants to lecture to this world on legal matters.
Bishop Duffy and other members of the clergy who have motives of their own against President Banda’s Administration should not hide behind their so called religious collars because the current record of Catholic clergy world over is that of misery and total disappointment.
The atrocities committed against innocent people by some Catholic clergy in countries such as the United States of America, where the Catholic Church paid over $600 million arising from sexual abuses and scandals of innocent teenagers, the closure of certain institutions in Ireland, in Germany and recently revealed in the United Kingdom during the papal visit to the country clearly shows that the clergy is no longer living by the book for which the priests and bishops were ordained.
Bishop Duffy and the likes in the Catholic Church cannot fool the people of Western Province because in the past six months, I have been to the province three times.
Yes, I agree that Western Province suffered a lot of injustice in UNIP and Chiluba Administration. The province that was the most highly educated province at independence was rendered the least. But since coming into power of the late president Mwanawasa and continued by President Banda, no sensible person can ever say that Western Province is neglected now.
The projects such as Kalabo-Mongu Road, Senanga-Sesheke Road, the forthcoming rail line from North-Western Province via Kaoma, Mongu and Senanga and Sesheke to Namibia and Livingstone, Mulobezi, Sesheke and Namibia are no mean projects.
If we have to borrow to develop our country, we have to do that. Even in Western countries, big economies such as Greece had to borrow to sustain their economies. Is Bishop Duffy not aware of that?
My plea to all my fellow countrymen and compatriots is that this country is ours individually and severally under our Motto of ‘‘One Zambia One Nation.’’
Foreigners should not be allowed to divide us, as Zambians are one in diversity. We should look back to where we came from and where we are going. At Independence, we allowed Dr Kaunda from Northern Province to rule Zambia for 27 years and United as Zambians we voted for Dr Chiluba into office as the second Republican president. We then voted into power the late president Dr Levy Mwanawasa from Central Lusaka and Copperbelt provinces. Following his untimely death, we elected the current president from Eastern Province.
[pullquote]Yes, I agree that Western Province suffered a lot of injustice in UNIP and Chiluba Administration. The province that was the most highly educated province at independence was rendered the least. But since coming into power of the late president Mwanawasa and continued by President Banda, no sensible person can ever say that Western Province is neglected now.[/pullquote]
Looking at this pattern of presidential elections, it is quite clear that most Zambians would like to have a system of guided democracy where the presidents will be rotating according to regions to avoid certain regions being the masters and the others being the servants.
It was very sad to note that some political parties have been promoting tribal politics and candidates from other regions are not wanted.
For example, the remark attributed to the PF Member of Parliament last year that it was wrong for the people of Luanshya to vote for a Luvale from North-Western Province was highly unfortunate.
It was also unfortunate that last year, we had remarks attributed to the current Member of Parliament for Kasama that a Namwanga could not contest for the Kasama Central Constituency because he was Namwanga!
Those remarks were dangerous to our oneness in diversity.
The likes of Bishop Duffy are saying these things because they want the people of Western Province to feel that they are hated by their brothers, when that was not so.
It is very sad that even Archbishop Mpundu can support the unfortunate statement by Bishop Duffy.
To the people of Western Province, I wish to say and endorse what the Royal Establishment has said, that yes, we can have problems of under-development but they are being tackled by this current administration.
We have a new hospital being built in Shang’ombo Boma, a high school at Kaanja, in Shang’ombo District as well.
We have a new high school at Mwandi. We have a high school in Lukalanya Constituency in Mongu District. We have a new high school in Lukulu to be opened in 2011.
To sum up, I wish to appeal to the people of Western Province not to listen to the prophets of doom because doom begets destruction and misery.
Bishop Duffy and any other Catholic clergy that are loud mouthed have no children to worry about, but we worry for the future of our children as they are the future leaders of our nation.
The Catholic Church was antagonistic against the late president Mwanawasa and today with their political quislings are on the same path of destabilising this country.
It is the same Catholic Church that has opposed and continued to oppose the declaration of Zambia as a Christian Nation.
Father Mpundu was in Lukulu and I have information that he is a PF sympathiser just as Archbishop Mpundu is defending the undemocratic party of his brother-in-law which party is run by a purported central committee, which committee has neither centre nor commitment to the Zambian people as they have never been elected but hand picked.
I would therefore urge the Zambians to be united and treat each other with dignity and love.
If we are serious about our oneness in diversity, then President Banda should be given every support because he has done wonders in the shortest possible time he has been President.
After he has completed his second term, Zambians under guided democracy should only vote for a president from any of the three provinces, namely Western, North-Western and Southern provinces.
It is dangerous to ignore other regions of our nation and a a good example of a good and stable nation is that of Tanzania where presidents have come from different regions.
My appeal is that parties with rooted foundation in tribalism should never be voted into power because colonialism cannot be replaced by tribalism.
Those fighting President Banda are either racialist or tribalists.
If they are neither of the two then they are poltitical quislings with their own interest to serve through their well defined megaphones.
What is the justification for these daily attacks on the president when the economy is doing so well and was the second best economy in SADC last year in spite of the worst recession in living memory?
The enemies of this country should be ashamed because they did the same thing to the late president and they contributed to his death as he was insulted on a daily basis as is now happening to President Banda.
If the Catholic clergy in Zambia was to be placed under miscroscope, many of them would be found to have committted atrocities such as sexual abuses, adultery and the likes.
That is why it is uncommon to find Catholic priests in queues waiting to be given ARVS because they have made themsevles scribes and pharisees.
Some of them have now rejected the biblical calling of peace makers to the detriment of the church.
The threat by Father Msipu is baseless, hollow and unjustified .
The clergy have never been good leaders in political life as the example of Father Aristed in Haiti speaks volumes.
Bishop Duffy, leave us alone and if you are tired of being a peace maker, please pack up your robes and go home.
This is good stuff and wise words from the state counsel.
Iwe Lusaka lawyer, please understand that Kambwili didnt say that it was wrong to vote for a person from NW. Get the real recording from radio chengelo and you will know that you were misled. All the people who heard what he said will tell you that there was nothing offensive about what he said. He actually sadi that most of Kaondes he knew were smart and was surprised that the rival wasnt that way.
Stop spreading the n0sence. you are among the educated zambians and you should seek the truth.
About Duffy being a foreigner and hence having no right to comment on the issue, that utter rubbish. This same Duffy has served the people of western province moer than you can ever do in a hundred life limes. Did anyone tell him to leave his good works to zambians to do it?
at times we have to rise above political affiliation when our nation is under threat. this is that time. so many people want to gain some millage over a potential war in zambia. lets not let them. however this is not to mean we should give up our political belief and have a unilaterally support for the republican president. no we can disagree with MMD in a way that does not endanger our country after all we have no other nation but zambia
this christopher mundia is the one who bungled the prosecution of Regina Mwanza and had to be replaced at the last minute and is the one prosecuting membe for defamation of RB. This ***** can not lecture any one on anything other than how to bootlicking. the projects being cited were already planned and partly initiated by Late LPM
STATE COUNSEL BO MUNDIA LITUMEZI. THIS GAY BISHOP DUFFY CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK LIKE THAT IN HIS HOME COUNTRY UK. A FOREIGNER IN UK OR USA CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK AGAINST GOVT THE WAY DUFFY DOES BCOS HE CAN DISAPPEAR. DUFFY NEEDS TO BE CHARGED WITH TREASON HE IS DISTURBING THE PEACE OF THIS NATION. WE CANT ALLOW IT TO COME FROM A STINKING HOMOSEXUAL ALIEN. WE HAVE GIVEN TOO MUCH SPACE TO THIS MOTHERFUKER ITS TIME MUKONDO LUNGU LICKED HIM OUT OF THIS NATION.
Unmasked Pharisee has had no heart for the Katrina victims yet vainly postulating messianic role in WP when his spirit is after Rwanda version 2.
Just recently at their Elections in Chipata the same RB being supported was tribal and told his fellow easterners not to vote for Chisala who wanted to oppose Kennedy Zulu as provincial chairman. besides the many appoitments for easteners.
Umu guys kwena akalwisha akapoto ka. In otherwords, he is trying to tell the likes of Senior Citizen, MMD chief bootlicker, Mr. Capitalist that they aren’t doing enough of what they have been asked to so he has decided to come out and show them how it is supposed to be done…lol!
Terrible stuff and coming from a SC Lawyer makes it even more embarrassing and appalling, especially to the people that hold the SC title and those that appointed him. 2 points why I say this , and this dude being a lawyer he should know better, makes me question his credentials to engage in a logical debate.
1) The article is very fallacious. Instead of attacking the view point of the Bishop, our learned lawyer decides to major on the Bishop’s personality. This in debate is called the fallacy of ad hominem. You cannot reject views on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the Bishop
2) I sense that he is being Xenophobic and want to appeal to nationalists, and that is wrong. The character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not have a bearing on the truths or facts.
“Bishop Duffy and any other Catholic clergy that are loud mouthed have no children to worry about, but we worry for the future of our children as they are the future leaders of our nation”.
“My appeal is that parties with rooted foundation in tribalism should never be voted into power because colonialism cannot be replaced by tribalism”.
“Those fighting President Banda are either racialist or tribalists.If they are neither of the two then they are poltitical quislings with their own interest to serve through their well defined megaphones”.
Too precise to explicate further.
What is good about this one sided pre meditated article?? The Article falls short of good research and it is hard to imagine that it is authored by a learned person.
NOT ALL IS BAD ABOUT CATHOLICS. How about the Schools and hospitals that they are running?
If this Lawyer was genuine in his attack on Duffy he would have included RB as on of the tribalist.
Rupiah Banda told the people of Easten Province not to vote for anyone who does not hail from the province.This is a fact,he is a tribalist
-Whats going to happen if Zambians decide not to vote for anyone from western,northwestern or southern province
-he has been to western province 3 times in the last 4 months,Duffy is a resident of western province,who interacts with these people who eat raw mangoes for breakfast,boiled ones for lunch and vingobe with salt (sample) for dinner
#3 well put. I should not dillute your good and wise advise. I just hope it will help some Kaponya’s in the diaspora like one John Phiri
“It was very sad to note that some political parties have been promoting tribal politics and candidates from other regions are not wanted.
For example, the remark attributed to the PF Member of Parliament last year that it was wrong for the people of Luanshya to vote for a Luvale from North-Western Province was highly unfortunate.
It was also unfortunate that last year, we had remarks attributed to the current Member of Parliament for Kasama that a Namwanga could not contest for the Kasama Central Constituency because he was Namwanga!. Those remarks were dangerous to our oneness in diversity”
Learned Lawyer, Mundia, in this statement here deliberately excludes the tribal remarks by his favoured president and employer RB where the President told the people of Eastern Province not to…
“Zambians under guided democracy should only vote for a president from any of the three provinces, namely Western, North-Western and Southern provinces”. Why and How?
So even if it is a donkey as long as it comes from the three provinces we should vote for it? I take this as tribalism at its best. That is how we ended up with Hakainde in UPND from no where sacrificing the likes of Sikota and Chisanga. I thought we need a leader that is credible, intelligent, wise, sober, resolute, energetic and with morals.
Point of correction, Kaunda is not from Northern but Malawi. His father may have settled in Chinsali for work but that did not make him bemba. Chiluba is not from Northern but Luapula and he is equally not Bemba. Get it right, No bemba has ruled Zambia but People Speaking…
Bo Mundia, just go and rest…we are tired of you old craps trying to lecture us on things you have always done wrong. Just because Rupiah Banda is your long time friend you want to shield his ill motives. To hell with your cheap analysis. We are decided..MMD ZWAA…FUSEKE…ALULATI. We are game with the Pact. Why should we give Rupiah a second term? Ala…sick advice from fake State Council.
Tribalism has killed the Pact — poll
THE PF/UPND Pact is neither sustainable nor viable because of the ethnic and regional support bases mainly among the Bemba and Tonga speaking people, an opinion poll conducted by the Centre for Policy Dialogue (CPD) has revealed. The poll conducted in five provinces of Zambia indicates that because of the ethnic and regional dynamics, the pact alienates other non-Bemba and non-Tonga tribes and has the potential to induce an anti-Bemba and anti-Tonga political mobilisation.
More than 1,000 respondents in the five provinces were sampled, giving a confidence level of 95 per cent reliability, with a margin of error of +/-2.
The poll conducted last month over a two week period in Lusaka, Southern, Copperbelt, Luapula and Northern provinces interviewed 50 per cent women and 50 per cent men.
The tribal inclinations of the respondents could be seen in the choice of candidate between the two leaders.
PF president Michael Sata and UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema’s support was drawn almost exclusively from their ethnic bases.
Of the Bemba speaking people surveyed for the poll, 65 per cent preferred Mr Sata compared to 20 per cent for Mr Hichilema as leader of the pact and 2011 presidential candidate.
The same was true for Mr Hichilema among the Tonga speaking ethnic group interviewees.
Of the Tonga speaking people surveyed for the poll, 67 per cent preferred Mr Hichilema compared to 13 per cent for Mr Sata as leader of the pact and possible presidential candidate in the 2011 polls.
The poll also revealed that between the UPND and PF, the latter has its highest support in Luapula, at 60 per cent but has the least support in Southern Province, at 17 per cent.
On the other hand, UPND enjoys maximum support in Southern Province, at 50 per cent and the lowest in Northern Province, at six per cent.
“While these survey results cannot easily be generalised for the whole population, they are highly representative of national public opinion in as far as the PF/UPND pact is concerned and electoral preferences of the electorate,” the poll reveals. It is also clear that whoever is eventually selected to be the Pact presidential candidate would not necessarily receive endorsement of the other party to the pact.
thats the lawyer
MUNDIA CHRISTOPHER…YOU ARE FAKE! Why are you not citing the tribal remarks made by your friend Rupiah Bwezani Banda? Fake…state council..really fake! People I mean FAKE….These are people who want to champion advise to us. We are smart and we won’t cow down to this nonsense. Bukuba…we won’t toralate. Zambia has FAKE laws as such, most State Councils are fake, most Judges are fake, most lawyers are fake, the parliament is fake, fake elections leading to fake development.
“It was very sad to note that some political parties have been promoting tribal politics and candidates from other regions are not wanted.For example, the remark attributed to the PF Member of Parliament last year that it was wrong for the people of Luanshya to vote for a Luvale from North-Western Province was highly unfortunate.
It was also unfortunate that last year, we had remarks attributed to the current Member of Parliament for Kasama that a Namwanga could not contest for the Kasama Central Constituency because he was Namwanga!. Those remarks were dangerous to our oneness in diversity”
Learned Lawyer, Mundia, in this statement here deliberately excludes the tribal remarks by his favoured president and employer RB where the President told the people of Eastern Province not to vote…
Oh yes learned lawyer!! Tell them!! Iam behind you.We cant afford to be divided!!
#17#18#18 WORRIED YOUR ANALYSIS IS FACTUAL BUT WAIT FOR VIRULENT ATTACKS FROM RABID MONGRELS
“Foreigners should not be allowed to divide us, as Zambians are one in diversity. We should look back to where we came from and where we are going”
Now, how different is this lawyer, Mundia from those advocating for the secession of western province? His statement here is purely divisive. Today we live in a Global village and we should not behave like this lawyer. Going by his statement the BFM or Linyungandambo can defend themselves as well and say other tribes are foreigners in western province and therefore should leave. Be reasonable lawyer Mundia because now everyone can see that you are just defending RB because you get your Bread from the Job he gave you. Period!!
This is a can of worms from this cheap lawyer Christopher Mundia. This is not a comment on Barotse but a cheap MMD can of worms propaganda. RB is the biggest tribalist and this lawyer cannot see that? Take to growing cabbages not cheap politics baba.
bo mundia mongu is not western province alone,just from limulunga to lukulu,how many clinic and police stations are there,?
bo mundia mongu is not western province alone,just from limulunga to lukulu,how many clinic and police stations are there,?do we have a secondary school in lukulu?
I Dont undestand the shallowness most Zambians have. MMD enjoys countrywide support not because its leaders are not tribal but because of its roots.At inception MMD had leaders coming from all the 9 provinces and this trend cannot be swept away overnight. There will still be some shallow minds who will still feel that MMD still their party and keep sympathising with it. Otherwise the truth is that MMD is now dominated by Easteners even at NEC level.We now have nonentities like Chembe Nyangu,Dorasiliya running the party. With Politics people can only be swayed e.g if PF won elections today they would definately start receiving support from all the 9 provinces. People easily get moved. So # 18 and 19
I dont undestand the shallowness most Zambians have. MMD enjoys countrywide support not because its leaders are not tribal but because of its roots.At inception,MMD had leaders coming from all the 9 provinces and this trend cannot be swept away overnight. There will still be some shallow minds who will still feel that MMD is their party and keep sympathising with it. Otherwise the truth is that MMD is now dominated by Easteners even at NEC level.We now have nonentities like Chembe Nyangu,Dorasiliya running the party. With Politics people can always be swayed e.g if PF won elections today they would definately start receiving support from all the 9 provinces. People easily get moved. So # 18 and 19 you cant fool anyone.
I thought boot licking was only for people who are not educated, am surprised with this lawyer. Is he a qualified lawyer to write such grab or he got the qualification from Matero. Shame on you.
Mundia is just another MMD vuvuzela. based on this article. I would rather go Pro Se in court if I had a case than hire him. I would refuse his services even if on Pro Bono basis.
This man is a disgrace to the legal profession. Who confered on him the status of state counsel?
this man is an embarrassment to his family and to us all the zambians.if he meant why has he failed to speak out against tribalism in the mmd??
What a way to look for a job! These are really difficult times even for a state counsel.
Were the bread is buttered that’s where Mundia is. Useless lawyer!
low thinkin what have done for the people of western province? for you to attack we catholics.you failed to build just a toilet for your relatives there.you lozis invest in your province and your pipo will be fine.there rich lozi pipo here in lusaka but have to invest in there province such as lubinda,sikotas,lewanikas,mmembe,mundias,milupi,ndopu,musokotwane,ndalamei,etc copy what your friends have done in there provinces such as katele,GBM,mangani,RB,mkondo,mpombo,HH. etc .please wake up,you are most educated province .i feel pity for mundia to insult the catholics who educated almost 90% of the province.
Didn’t i tell you bloggers that Duffy is behind these thugs thats how Katolikas operate now you have read for youselves Bo Mundia has hit the nail on it’s head without fear or favour.Let me eat my nshima first i’ll come back to decieved chaps.
BO Mudia – The fact that u know how to talk doesn’t mean u know what u talking about. Nice insights but one interesting thing is how us the fresh blood cannot clap for Mudia no matter how educated he is. We need fresh blood in government; don’t ask me about experience even virgins have good marriages than prostitutes who have been shagging since when they were 14 and got married at 38. I mean political prostitutes have nothing to offer to us than revenge and fatten their pockets. I am tired of recycled politician. Imwe mwileka mpote
I pray that these old buds die in 10 years so that we can rule with Godly principles period. When the righteous rule people rejoice. Any political party can develop this nation if they have the right people period.:-w
this is what we call…xenophobia by a learned lawyer..what kind of language is that?
i mean pipo like,lubinda,sikotas,lewanikas,mmembe,mundias,milupi,ndopu,musokotwane,ndalamei,etc have falied to invest in there province but their friends have done it well in there respect provinces such as katele,GBM mangani,abenaRB, mkondo,mpombo,HH ,shakafusha etc. so that low-ya should think
Wow wow wow .Well stipulated article yea? Do you think all the Westerners would support this 100% .Kwena aluzipi .When one has enough power and money , he/she will not understand whatever is on the grassroots .The poor ones will remain wondering as to why the rich man continues to get fatter and stronger. For promises, when promises are not fulfilled the promised one (take a woman for instance) might end upto be violent sinful to herself or the promise carrier .depending on the situation double stress shall result.Dialogue? No for strong Man,Yes for the needy? Please handle those people with care.We don’t want to be stress as in Tunisia,Ivory coast,Kenya etc.We need peace ,Love and unity.KK has alot to do too.Duffy preaches to the poor,other meet the rich so all is in luxury .
Fr.Bwalya is not Lozi but carries the same message of development.Magane is not Lozi same message.RB is not Lozi but he wants and preaches development,Mulongoti ,VJ ,Kavindele,HH,Sata,Nawakwi just to mention a few aren’t lozi’s , perhaps we have the same message but we just don’t sit down to understand each other. One man’s views irritates another man’s ear.Just follow them through and you will learn to know that ALL ARE AIMED at building Zambia.The question still remains on ” WHO TO TRUST”
Amen
We don’t even know how much the Mr.Mundia has invested in his province.May he has a lwa school there
We don’t even know how much the Mr.Mundia has invested in his province.May he has a law school there .or a law firm.Who know?unless we were mates
Lock them up, and if there is no space in the local prisons you can hire Guantanamo from the Americans.
Mundia you article is spoiled by your preamble which is full of insults. Therefore I cannot comment.
This lwayers views are misplaced the best thing he can do now is stay in your office and graft. MMD was formed to find KK’s injustice and to improve the majorities living standards, but this has not been the case. yes they have brought some development but it’s just not enough for the time they’ve been in office they could easily have done more. This development Mundia is talking about is way over due and the people be it from Western Province, Luapula etc have a right to speak out. I for one had high expectation I appeared in the MMD campaign posters of 1990/1. I was made to believe that Zambia will have proper schools, hospitals, roads etc but it’s all moving at a snails pace. Chiluba has $8 why didn’t he use it for some sort of project to help the masses. Selfish leaders we have
Bo Mundia Christopher
It is surprising to see how some learned counsel loose their heads and rally behind a Government, and work against the suffering poor. Bishop Duffy is as Zmabian as you are. He has lived in Western Province probably more than you. He talks on behalf of the suffering Zambian. Going to Western Province three times will not reveal all the suffering on the ground. But let us not support the ceasation remarks.
If we are serious about our oneness in diversity, then President Banda should be given every support because he has done wonders in the shortest possible time he has been President.
After he has completed his second term, Zambians under guided democracy should only vote for a president from any of the three provinces, namely Western, North-Western and Southern provinces.
TALK ABOUT MMD DEMOCRACY!
CHOOSING A S.P OR W.P PERSON FOR 2016 IS REALLY UNDEMOCRATIC AND CHOOSING R.B FOR ANOTHER TERM IS THE WORST THING TO DO ALSO.
MMD PIECE WORKERS HERE WILL BE IN FOR A SHOCK THIS YEAR.
I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE STILL HAVE WHITE BISHOPS IN ZAMBIA WHEN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS ALOT OF WELL EDUCATED ZAMBIANS AND WILLING TO SERVE THE POPE .THERE A MASSIVE SHORTAGE OF PRIESTS HERE IN AUSTRALIA WHY DON’T PEOPLE LIKE DUFFY COME AND SERVE HERE AND CREATE EMPLOYMENT TO ZAMBIANS.KATOLIKAS ARE CONFUSIONISTS IN THIS CASE THE VUVUZELA,PF SATANIST AND THEIR DEMONS ARE ALL AT WORK LOOKING FOR TROUBLE .DUFFY PLEASE PACK YOUR ROBE AND GO BACK WHERE COME FROM YOUR PRSENCE IN MY COUNTRY IS POSING A REAL DANDER TO PEACE AND STABILITY.DUFFY ZWA,DUFFY ZWA,DUFFY,ZWA,ZWA
its just amazing that this learned counsel can insult catholics when the only institution of higher learning in Western Province was built by them, then he goes ahead to praise a government that has not provided any meaningful development to the area of his origin. I’m a Ngoni who lives in Southern province, I mingle with lozis everyday & I know they are not the best hearted people around, yet I tolerate them because we are all but mere human beings. we cannot afford to be tribal in Zambia bcoz no tribe can survive on its own if we all relocated to our areas of origin.
Eish! Lady Gaga’s mouth is foul.You may have a point but how you come out also matters.Who would take you serious with this vulgar language?? mind you though you are hiding as you insult, know there is a God somewhere who will hold you answerable.
THANK BO MUDIA FOR YOUR BOLDNESS,LETS NOT ALLOW THE PEACE WE HAVE ENJOYED IN COUNTRY TO BE COMPROMISED BECAUSE OF MISGUIDED DEMONIC DRIVEN BISHOPS,ALL THE WANT IS TO SEE US CONTINUE RECIEVING SECOND HAND CLOTHES FROM ITALY ,EXPIRED DRUGS WHICH KILL OUR POOR PEOPLE,THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WHEN THEY SEE US DEVELOPING BECAUSE IT MEANS THEY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MISERABLE GREY CLOUDS.YOU CHILD ABUSERS.SHAME ON YOU.
My learned SC. Very good disjointed article. Now I know how I can easily get a JOB. # 48 is correct by saying you cannot measure suffering of local by doing 3 visits in 6 months. While Duffy may not be the best person to highlight the developmental issues, the old man has lived in Western province much longer than Mundia himself. He has lived among the poor their and it would be foolish for him to keep quiet after seeing the suffering of the people. As you may know the church works among the poor and when they see that its help to the poor is not enough, can’t they raise a voice and ask the government to do their part? The spiritual nourishment is not enough. People across the country need social, economic emancipation and this problem is not not just in WP.
YAYA, if you want go and become the bishop yourself! Now you have finished with tribalism, you are going to racism.
#53 yaya thanks for hitting out at these child molesters. you have opened my mind these katolika muzungu want to see us in hunger throughout they know once we are economically sound we shall have no room for them. to hell with salaula kind of assistance. minister of home affairs do we really need ka duffy to allow him continue chewing our sons in their arrses. pliz depot this evil man
#55 shikaunda .com do we really need these tuma catholic homos. I mean we have honorable men like the mazombwes, milingo, spaita, mpundu honestly cant these run affairs of catholic church. do we need ka duffy homosexual
Thumbs up ShiKaunda.Com. wish the likes of Senior Citizen and Gaga can reason like you.
Mundia who told you that the clergy are only theologians? You are a ruskle in your thoughts. What a shame you are bringing to us westerners. Bishop Duffy and catholic have done alot and just insult them as if you love us. No wonder you leave in lusaka. Bastard
Mundia ass, just eat with MMD and shut you gab
Thus RB’s lawyer! This is in preparation to DEPORT the priest . . . .
Mundia ass, just eat with MMD and shut your gab
#55 ShiKaunda.com i have time for that am happly employed ,just get rid of those fake priest and replace them with Zambians who have the interest of the people at heart not those those who are on holiday in Zambia.They cheat you with second hand clothes and soya beans.They dump expired drugs poor unsuspecting Zambians poor.
He’s going we shall make sure that his permit is not renewed period!
Yess!!!! Tell the Catholics and Sata
hon mukondo lungu do the honorable and expel this ka duffy man let him go back to USA he will be homeless in yankeeland. we feed him and wants to continue attacking us. kick out duffy ba mudala ba mukondo be seen to have teeth to bite
Bootlicking has gone to the learned! State council advocating for racism? State council hacking the catholic church that has taken him to school? Not all priests are good, just as not all pentecostal pastors like Danny Pule and Bishop FTJ are? Some are fake, like every one else. I wonder how we produce such people from our universities if not just out of memorising cases and staff. He even has the courage to acknowlege that Western province had the most educated but is now the least? I am sure he feeds his family from brown envelops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He seems to have an issue with PF, how come he’s forgotten that just like their PF counterparts MMD and UPND officials have on many occasions issued tribal statements and there’s no where in the constitution where it says Presidency would be rotated. He mentions Western, N/W and Southern as provinces where the next president should come from, what about those from C/B, Central, Lusaka and Northern Provinces?This man is just as useless a lawyer as one foul-mouthed ARV guzzler George Kunda. The only difference between this guy and Siulapwa is that one is younger and the other older, they are all hungry MMD cadres that have devised a way of conning MMD. Enough said.
Am sure, those who have come acrros the bible in your life can testify with me that Mosses condenmed but leadership by kings. Going down the new testament, Paul and Peter spoke hard against king Alexandria and went between axes for that. The church must be seen to speak out against injustices and as someone has put it, if those who are enlightened do not speak against the evils of government, there is more fire for them in hell. Catholics have their blame and surley how do we afford to sit in pews listening to a saving mesaage in conforts while our members did not eat at home? Why are pentecostal leaders very silent? Is it because KAFUPI has whitewahed them with his “brown envelop offerings”? May God vindicate us.Even, this SC must learn to appreciate what the catholic has done in…
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ShiKaunda.Com – My friend the ignorance(or pretended) among our MMD coleagues is very amazing. When a clergy man talks about people sufferings they(MMD)say he is getting involved in politics. What they dont(or just ignore) is that the founder of our Church Christ himself was killed for this same reason. He stood for poor, the marginalized and attacked the Phareeses with their rich friends.Oh he even multiplied bread to feed thousands The time he was to be killed Pilate failed to why but the Phareeses brought in politics by threatening Pilate that they would report him to Caesar, that he Pilate had failed to deal with a rebel. Any one who denies this is not a true Christian.FTJ had to form ICZ because he wanted to use the Church for 3rd term bid as EFZ refused to support this.
As much as the lawyer may have good motives he speaks a lot of crap in this article. Sikota Wina’s arguments in the same State Mouthpiece, The Times of Zambia, seem more mature.
If you ask me about this Mundia thing i would he is full of shiiit. He has nothing to say so he should just shut both his mouth and anuus.
my question to times is do you pick such kind of articles from the dust bin or what? This is total rubbish
Mundia!mundia! Mundia! Bishop Paul Duffy is not the originator of the BA64 neither is he a leader of the groups pushing for the restoration of the agreement. He is just a humble and committed christian who sacrificed the luxuries of life to live among the poor people of the world in the village you and fellow educated lozis ran away from. The Catholic Church that you shamelessly insult has complimented govt efforts in unmatched way. Yes we have a crisis at our hands but it no time to spread blame even to people who do not deserve such. My advice to you is just contunue your riches and leave the compassionate bishop alone to serve your relatives that you ran away from.
His writing and reasoning is very un-lawyer but more like a wannabe party cadre, especially considering that there will be job openings in April
How can a seasoned, well-balanced lawyer state that anyone criticizing (and not fighting) President Banda are either racialist or tribalists.? Kapiji is right regarding unipists…
Haa! guys , is this really the writings of Mudia? I dont think so. The style is that of the MMD thugs.
Ok if its Mudia then I think he is a useless state counsel. He is there promoting the cause of RB while castigating PF and the CathoLics.
He is accusing PF of being tribal while falling to do them to MMD where RB always preaches tribalism when ever he is in Eastern province. Equally, he has failled to castigate Viece president Kunda who is always preaching tribalism at his rallies in southern province. How dull this Mudia is indeed.
He has failed to tackle the problem of the BRE as it is but he is quick to paint the catholic with mud. Where has he been when Kaingu was sent by RB to promote riots in Mongu?
Mudia is being tribal himself.
NONSENSE.
Mundia’s thoughts are typical of our brothers and sisters from that region therefore, i think we should allow common sense to reign here and allow these guys and others who would want to join them to go or one day Zambia would be on fire. There are millions of tribalist volcanoes everywhere simmering under the surface just waiting to erupt infact am now curious to know who my neighbors are. There are signs everywhere suggesting that not all is fine, bury your heads in sand if you want but dont forget the Rwanda madness. I have lots of Lozi friends and guess what they all seem to support cessation so whats the point of pretending we are a united nation when we are not. Let them go where they would be Presidents for ever.
ShiKaunda,am sure you were been shagged by some white father thats why you are so defensive of them your friends in the Western world have come out in open and they are been paid millions of dollars in compansation by the catholics one of the diocess here is even broke they selling their nursing homes and other asserts to meet the payout bills.You think we so behind with these molesters?We know them thats why Mr Mundia did not waste his time hitting about the bush but straight to the point enough is enough.The government is empowering the citizens country wide without discrimination based on tribe or province but Duffy has made the thugs in Mongo in believing that we do not care for them poverty is everywhere in Katete ,Isoka, zambezi etc we are in a hurry to deliver delopment not lies
Good article brother, this Duffy is growing big headed such that if left unchecked he has the potential to to set this country on fire. Thanks for your bravery brother we are waiting for some more.
26, Rupiaitis, you should always blog on important issues, your comments are a rare fresh breeze on this blog. Mr. Mubndia, how can the SAME mouth preach ‘unity in diversity’, while it turns around and attack Bishop Paul Duffy, who has never complained in his tireless effort to better the lives of people of WP? Never ask Bishop Duffy to leave, but ask the over travelling, over paid, under performing government of Kamwendo Munjila to retire! The big problem for Christopher Mundia is that he is a failed lawyer whose stomach will starve without RBs’ corrupt payments.
# 56 & 57, Lady gaga & YAYA, may Jehovah God almighty have mercy on you. I am not catholic, but your hatred is nauseating.
“Bishop Duffy and any other Catholic clergy that are loud mouthed have no children to worry about, but we worry for the future of our children as they are the future leaders of our nation.” The most important point from the above article!!!!! If kafwafwa ensued, it will be easy for these childless characters to leave this country. It happened in Rwanda. Catholic priests who fueled the genocide found their way to developed nations. Now you with your children and multitudes of dependants, how easy is it going to be for you to abandon your clanship?
Ladies and Gentleman,
Some remarks leave much to be desired. Issues are been brought out but some of you are just showing your hate. Whether you agree with Mundia or disagree lets bring out the real issues and lets not give support to a particular candidate based one tribe, race etc but if they can deliver and unite our country lets do that. We keep on complaining about bad language our leader are using but what about us! As we keep them in check lets also check ourselves and contribute meaningfully. We are all educated in our own right but common sense is vital even as we discuss issues.
Lets leave the name calling and politicking and address real issues!
Lawyer Mundia, yes Western province had the most educated people but from what I know about Lozis is that they do not know how to translate education into action. Westerners no matter how educated remain dependants of the Government. J.FKennedy said do not ask what America can do for you, but ask for what you can do for America. The best for Lozis is to first identfy the causes of poverty in western province, which one of them is the mentality of the people who do not want to accept others so that they can tup talent. Learn to live with others so that you can learn their good ways and even build on their weaknesses to sharpen your life. Wherever Lozis are be it in Kapriv, etc those places are poor because they don’t mix with others. Kapriv is the poorest in Namibia.
Mundia may have some points , we should be careful with these Priests especially when in places like Rwanda they were accused of fueling the violence.
Violence in whatever way is not acceptable plz…its good their is peace now in Barotseland. If the people talk and dialogue what more do you want. I think we have a country to develop lets concentrate now on who leads us after the elections and what plans they implement thereafter. Nothing will ever be pefect we just work for the better.
Her Ladyship, for you everything is about Bwezani. I am sure you even blame him for your many failed marriages, the STIs that you often contract, the Grade twelve certificate you never attained, your makeshift house in kabwata site and service which is forever flooded, your fifth hand car which smokes more than your party president and spokesperson. Grow up and take responsibility for your ill-timed behavior. RB is not God. Even God has not been able to solve all problems, so what do you want from RB?
Ba Motoka ya mwaya
Mwalatuka Lesa.You should repent.
Duffy and his cohorts are capable of turning our Zambia into Rwanda 2. Ma church aya! Watch out for manifestations.
What I have come to know is that people nowadays don’t choose careers because they like them but because of what they are likely to get out of it. Especially if they have seen other people doing fine in the same as a result if one doesn’t reap what he or she was expecting they tend to compromise a lot. Like the likes of Christopher Mundia and the rest of lawyers like Kunda,Musonda etec.
What’s the matter with you guys just because you have been given ‘change ‘by RB or promised something you start screaming. Catholics and Bishop Duff are some few institutions and individuals who have remained uncorrupt and hence the government fear
Ah, this Mundia is a brother in law to Gladys Zaloumis PS for Southern Province.
this is being shallow minded. You cant attack the catholic like that which is the biggest church in the world. Gvt is trying hard to make peace with them bcoz they know they cant survive without them. Mind u Caritus Zambia is miniotoring elections this yr. No vote rigging. this is a noble coz which even yo law firm has never been heard giving arms or service to zambia.When u talk about sexaul abuses talk about individuals not a church! u ar wrong. If we take u as mudia how is yo moral conduct and not yo lay firm. you shud be ashamed, the catholic church has done alot for zambia, had it not been for them criticising kaunda u kudnt have had this democracy where u can even insult a church like that. Donchi kubeba…VIVA PACT.
Hello brothers, we are facing similar problems in India, Kashmir. Pakistan and china are actively supporting such activity. It’s in the interest of foreign powers to support such activities and divide us. Don’t let this happen, stay strong and united. One Zambia, one Nation.
Ba Mundia, your attack on Bishop duffy and other priests of the Roman Catholic Church means the gospel they preach is now reaching your ears. The gospel message has started to sink into your head. This is exactly what happened to Jesus. When his opponents realised that his message was a weapon to their oppressive activities they reacted by persecuting and putting him to death. Your attack on the catholic church is actually a score. Meaning the fruits of the gospel the church preaches have started to be seen in some of you, like yourself. The more you attack the church the more she becomes happy because, the mother church understands that atleast the message is reaching some people’s ears. Viva Catholic Church. sorry bo Mundia for yo tribal sentiments. Infact yo article is tribal.
Excellent piece! I really didn’t know Christopher Mundia is this smart. Whoever honoured you with the SC title earns my respect.I am bemba but I like the suggestion that after RB the next president should come from either western,north western or southern province.Although I don’t think electing leaders on the basis of where they originate from should be encouraged, it appears zambians are very mindful of which region their leader hails from and those who haven’t yet ‘contributed’ a president will always feel neglected. In the short term let’s embrace this idea of rotating leadership but in the long term let’s encourage our leaders to aim at developing all parts of our country equitably when they’re in power.
Great! These chaps preach justice and holy living when they know nothing about these values. They must be preached back to once in a while, as a way of reminding them of their higher calling of peace.
ka mundia leave the catholics what have you done for your pipo.tell lubinda,musokotwane,mmembe,chi seematter,lewanikas,milupi to go develop your province.am proud of GBM,RB,HH,mangani,mpombo.shakafuswa,katele,namulambe for investing in their provinces.remember catholics are feeding and educating your pipo whom you have abandoned shame on you
Cont. from #89 above…
To this effect, your excellency, allow me to prode you to consider this Mundia SC for a post of VP during your next and final term of office since HH (from southern province) has, once again, refused to remove southern province from being in the opposition that it has always been in.If for some reasons Mundia doesn’t make it as VP then please consider Sakwiba Sikota.I don’t know of chaps from NW province but if Kabinga Mpande hails from there then consider the man.Which intelligent man(not so old) hails from NW province?Ok, look at other Southerners too apart from HH.What about VJ?Oh he’s got ear problems so he wouldn’t be hearing our cries!How intelligent and wise is this Emmanuel Hachimpuka?
This mudia is a typical tribalist…given presidence, he can bring war…i dont think he is stable in the mind. Suppoting tribalism and the same time condeming his tribesmen? Donchi kubeba tule vota pa PACT
this man mundia is insane. ask him how he was chased from napsa then znpf by the unionised staff because of his tribal remarks.since then, he has never returned to napsa. he is worse than RB in terms of tribalism.anyway good luck as you job hunt
what a low yaaaaaaaaa pwete ukusabaila fye
Mundia has attacked the Catholic because of one individual he hates ( Bishop Duffy), now what about these so called tutemba churches who are always impregnanting young girls in classroom churches. Pule, Jimmy Swaggart, ka FTJ Chiluba, are they saints? Please fellow bloggers educate me on how many Catholic priests have been prosecuted and convicted over the Rwanda genocide. I am not disputing some catholic priests have made mistakes but they are also humans, overall the catholics have made a difference in most lives of the poor worldwide. Ba Lady Gaga muli ba insele, be matured for a change and don’t hide into your fake name we can locate you ukutumpa.
Lusaka lawyer Christopher Mundia SC If i was RB i was going to thank u for showing ur foolishness in public and then ban u from MMD coz u would make me lose this year’s election for thinking very illogical and stupid. U are an emabrassment to all Zambians wherever they maybe and U should also apologies to UNZA and us the TAX PAYERS for wasting our resources in trying to educate u. I just can believe that a lawyer can think like u do????? The good news is that at least the message of the Bishop is trying to sink just slowly open ur head!!!!!
Mr. Mundia, the mere fact that you hail from western province does not make you an authority on the Barotse agreement and worse still its not a passport to insult the innocent clergy! I can only advise you to try to be more level headed in any future articles you may author. Please SC do not insight hatread in people like is the case here.If the great American people were reasoning like you, President Obama was not going to be President of that great Country. God bless you Mundia and God bless this great Country and all its leaders both in Government and the opposition because they are all contributing in one way or the other to the development of Zambia.
Ka Mundia the Catholics educated you ulekwatako munchinshi. Leave the Bishop alone. Tribalism, ask those who worked at NAMBOARD and Ministry of Foreign Affairs when your RB was boss, even the Petauke people will tell you.
What do you expect? Guy is a tribalist, what more racism? This is pure racism or is it zenophobia. This is very misleading.no wonder zambia is under developed.first this guy praises mediocre election year developmental projects;ok, for this we assume he is looking for a job but even worse goes on to state that presidency must rotate in regions. Ridiculous!and he calls that democracy.what a dull lawyer!MF
My young boy Mundia is talking of racism and after uttering racist remarks on Duffy, what a joke it is. Before you talk about the microscope on the priests you should talk about one on lawyers. What have lawyers like done to protect the human rights of Zambians in general and western province in particular? You are busy feeding on corruption from the politicians and yet you think you are an lawyer. Lawyers of standing are the ones that have helped politicians to steal from this country as you go defending them and eating what drops off their table. Live Duffy alone.
Mumudipote cabe!
I couldn’t help plagiarize this statement into context:
‘The mere fact that a mentally challenged mutant like Sata could EVER be seriously considered for elected office is a sad indictment of the nation of Zambia. Thankfully ALL of Ayatollah Sata’s attempts to bogart his way into elected office have been monumental and epic FAILURES, as were the numerous DOOMED lawsuits he launched in protest of his unbroken and well-deserved losing streak.’
Putting politics aside. This article tries to portray a negative picture against the Catholic Church. He does not even mention all the education and hospitals the Catholics have contributed to Zed? Catholics have acted more like parents for villages, orphans etc when the African govts in the past have failed to provide for them. I bet the author or his relatives have gone to Catholic schools and hospitals. African countries have recieved and been blessed by the Catholic Church. The bible says take out the log from your eye before you take the speck out of your brothers. Surely, the author should have more respect for Catholics. They have done alot for Zed. I support Zed being a Christian nation. However, the countries governance needs to portray those Christian values.
This ka ku klux duff should be deported.We do not want illuminati tactics in our land.
# 9 its rare that you get people to talk constructively on emotional topics. You are very right in your comment. The State Council should have talked about against whatever Bishop Duffy said. But I may ask on his attack who is more closer to the people of Western Province between him and Bishop Duffy. Bishop Duffy eats with People of Shango’ombo whilst you dine with the elite in 5 star hotels in Lusaka and decide the fate of the suffering. Iam not in any way supporting violence or seccession but think people the government should show Leadership on this issue. What about the BRE why are they quite? Is it true that the Litungu was given gratification to keep quite? How can a King keep quite in such times? Does he have no love for the people? Whatever his position the people shall abide.
people take time to read news @ ZAMBIA24….there its more balanced.
Just deport the man. no loss
BO MUNDIA THIS IS LEADERSHIP.NO ADDITIONS ,NO SUBTRACTIONS.
Mpundu+Bwalya+ Duffy= Rwanda Genocide
Mundia is mostly right, except where he talks about rotating presidency, thats a no no. He is right about catholic priests calling for tribal tensions as a way of feeling relevant to the societies they serve. Examplas are plenty, Duffy is more than happy if there is tribal cleansing because that way a lot of people will be going to him for help.
Is it possible for the country to get an apology from Duffy?
masipa amina bo mundia bati!!!!! amusiye duffy king cant amueza inge nja yeola mulilo…….duffy is close to the people of Barotseland and he knws their suffering…SHUT UP BO MUNDIA….
It is so sad that a learned legal person like Mundia can write such racial remarks about Bishop Duffy. While I may not agree with everything Duffy has said, Mundia’s conduct borders on inciting racial hatred on a foreign national. Mundia has also deliberately chosen to ignore tribal sentiments by RB simply because he is his employer. This is utterly disgusting from this stupid fool. Call a spade a spade and not a big spoon. If Duffy has been wrong, dialogue with him and not write such useless trash. Mundia’s suggestion of rotating the Presidency smells of mediocrity and a lack of understanding of the electoral process. We do not force electorates to vote for individuals from any region. That candidate must be likable, sellable by his/her party, and must breed confidence. Abash chi…
If democracy entailed rotating the Presidency between regions, what would happen if one region decidies to hang on to power? War! Is this what Mundia, who can easily run into Angola, wants. How blind can this guy be. RB has promoted tribalism and it is there for everyone to see. As a matter of fact, he was addressing comments by Duffy, was there any need for him to bring in the PF. What a rotten mind this cheap SC is. No matter how educated one will be, I still believe being street smart remains the most attractive factor. For how else can one explain this foolish conduct by this Lozi man.
This pharisee called Paul Dusty should not force Zambians to turn into revisionist against his forgive dirty legacy of supremacist nature. For Generations since his birth and conversion to Marxism, Paul Dusty was the cheerleader of the KKK’s impunity years against every black soul and power in the USA. He has never stood for blacks in the USA except crusading secession and Genocide in Zambia’s WP. He has never stood with the Katrina victims, never condemned the enduring historic injustice and struggle of the black power. Not even condemnation of King’s cold assassination, the Saltville Massacre, Fort Pillow Massacre, Rosewood Massacre, or indeed the Massacre in Opelousas! Zambians just rubbish his Genocide mission and not have hatred against him, he is about to join Hitler in Hell.
rotating presidency : bo Mundia put up an argument like a learned person not like kaponya. What should matter or come first on presidency candidate is quality not tribe. if the quality candidates are coming from Eastern or Southern provinces why should we not continuesly vote for them. if you stood as president with Lupiya Banda, i can definitely vote Lupiya because he appears to better than you, looking at your argument in the article. You seem to be a shallow lawyer and do not discredit the institution. You should have consulted me before putting up this trash article.
All of u are falling short of just saying, “LOZIs are DOGS
I have had a look at the BA64.
It is a pity that we have not been informed why exactly the agreement was repudiated so soon after being signed – surely someone somewhere must know? Perhaps Assange at Wikileaks?
I am not a lawyer but clause 9 appears to provide an avenue for GRZ or the Litunga to refer any matter concerning the agreement’s interpretation to the High Court of Zambia. Has any of the holders of the title of ‘Litunga’ attempted any such referral? If not, is it because the agreement is, after all, null and void, having ostensibly been unilaterally repudiated by GRZ? If so, is it correct to say that it is actually unenforceable and therefore the present clamour to have its provisions effected have no legal backing? Even assuming it was possible to reinstate it, wouldn’t it be
According to this lawyer, Mundia, we should have a rotating Presidency from Province to Province.So to make Mundia happy, the next President should be a Nkoya by tribe, that will cover Western Province and this will solve all problems of rotating the Presidency from Province to Province.
I suggest the MMD, PF/ UPND should all have Nkoyas as Presidential candidates so that whoever wins will be a Nkoya from Western Province. That way, all people from Western Province can be happy that the Presidency is held by somebody from the Province. I think this is what needs to happen. besides, I think most Zambians who are not from Western Province would rather have a Nkoya President than a Lozi President. Vote for a Nkoya President in 2011! Viva Nkoya President, Viva Zambia.
mundia may not have time to read the reactions to his article.my sample analysis tells me almost 70 percent of the bloggers have disagreed with his views especially on his sentiments regarding duffy and the clergy who confirmed catholics hold in high esteem while accepting the clergys’ human pitifalls.bloggers,what does it take to become a state counsel like mundia.is bootliking a qualification?
The following are the advantages of having a Nkoya President rather than a Lozi President
1. Nkoyas are not separatists so the people of Zambia cannot have sleepless nights because they know that the Presidency and the nation are safe against separatist agendas. A Lozi President would guarantee separation probably on inauguration day, this would bring chaos and uncertainty in the country, and it would be a dark day for peaceful Zambia.
2. A Nkoya President would make a more representative government making sure that all corners of the nation are representative in true democratic style. A Lozi President would almost certainly promote nepotism and his entire cabinet will be all Lozis, this would create an elitist government, yet in more tribalism and possible civil war.
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3. A Nkoya President would nullify any ‘agreements’ obtained through lies and deceit such as the BA64 and would also make sure the word Barotseland is banned from being used as there is no place in Zambia that goes by that name. A Lozi President however, would force this agreement on the people of Zambia who have clearly objected to such tribal one sided ideologies. This action by a Lozi President would be the beginning of the end of what we all hold dear, our lovely and peaceful country Zambia.
4. Under a Nkoya President, because of a well balanced and well represented government, the people will focus less on tribal talk and instead focus on working together to foster rapid national development. This would create jobs, reduce poverty and bring national pride to all Zambians. A Lozi President on the other hand, will make the country more tribal and most people will focus their energies on tribal politics and the expense of national development. The nation under a Lozi President would grind to a halt.
5. With a Nkoya President at the helm of the nation, all traditional leaders would be consulted regularly to ensure that national plans are well integrated with local, regional set ups. This would create probably the best democratic government in the world. A Lozi President however, would be running the country from Limulunga meaning that the Litunga would be indirectly running the country thereby fuelling chaos, tribalism and nepotism like never seen before anywhere in the world.
Phiri wa Phiri#119: In the new Zambia you have to bootlick for any position related to State Institutions. That is just what the MMD has created; a society of bootlickers. This loyalty is what the MMD wants everyone to manifest if they dont want to sink into poverty. Ask Chanda Chimba the 3rd. Our society is no longer free because you cant progress unless you kneel before the MMD and tell them you are Wamuyaya. That is not democracy but just the same as UNIP’s one party state where you had to have a relation in the Party to be offered a scholarship or a job.We have gone backwards instead of forward and the MMD is to blame. We need a President who can protect Democracy not himself or his party or his pocket. I cant see any at the moment. But the MMD have to be removed
It is important to accept that tribalism is real in Zambia. But if you critically look at those who mainly practice it, you realise it is more of an inferiority complex than anything else.
Well said and put State Counsel.
Always remember that as you point a finger at your friend, there are three fingers pointing at you.
Before you talk about the tiny particles in your friend’s eye think of the log in yours.
State Counsel, please tell the nation how you left NPF.
Firstly, Mundia is failing to distinguish between Duffy the man and Duffy’s opinion on the Barotse agreement. Secondly, Mundia is not sincere in his public onslaught of Duffy as he could have written a letter in confidence to express his reservations instead of treating us to this hate speech. His disagreements with Duffy are not in themselves sufficient basis to launch such a vicious attack on the catholic church as a whole. As a matter of fact all the vices Mundia associates with the catholic hurch are not synonymous with it, they exist wherever human exist including in Mundia’s house. Every religion has bad and good people. When you attack the entire church because of the mistakes of one man, you alienate the good people as well.
Christopher Mundia must tell me whether in his village or town (a) is there running water in Mongu? No people go without water for weeks in areas such as Helen Kaunda. The rest of the town receives less than 5 hours on average (and this is 46 years after independence – stupid!!!). How many industries are in Mongu? Have you seen the state of the roads? Do you know how much funds have been embezzled at Provincial office? Have you ever attended a council meeting? Find out from those who do. Why is so much money being spent on Kalabo road when there are so much better priorities such as cattel disease control? Why is it that the livestock movement ban cannot be lifted after two decades? Where is you village? Dothey have a latrine?. Dont be stupid.
#128 Augustus – Most of what you have mentioned should be handled by the local govt inWestern Province.
Nkoya fo rotating presidency…..minungu….and when i mean minungu i mean many of yo minungus which simply means yo asses….u simply small chaps under da sun of barotseland, you not a factor… yo dream of kafue province is jus a dream that will neva come true in Barotseland coz we rule Barotseland….**** u mother heasers n yo mother ****in Rupiah we don giv a **** about anybody in Zambie,,,,,Loziz are supirior, Da luvales, da mbundas, da suviyaz, da kwangwaz, da simmaz, da totelaz, da nyengoz, and all da tribes that makes Lozi we proud as Barotselanders…..we don give a hell of nkoyas who willingly want to exclude themselves from barotse family….u will regreeat yo actions one day coz life is a journey and every day is passing phase……we luv you but its like u ve been bought.
If Zambia think Nkoyas are a factor in Barotseland, then they gat everything all twisted..Nkoyas are small chaps not even a factor in Barotseland..there jus small fools under da sun of barotseland…we respect da credible pipo like da suviyas, da nyengos, da mbundas, da kaondes, da luvales who have made western where it is today…not small rrats like nkoyas who can be bombed in one minute @ any tym…..I come from Barosteland and Nawinda in partcular…..we are sons and dauters of the soil, ve live with mbundas and luvales….there are nice people not useless nkoya funsed tribe by RB,……we do give a hell about RB..,….MMD you are going down in Barotseland this years..you piece of shiiiit!!!!!!!!!!
Dont take da shooting dat took place in barotseland as simple civi warl is @ yo finger tips….We ve tolerated dis for too long and its tym for action.as long as RB has shed blood in barotseland, its end of him in northern side of Rhodesia……..Bembas, Nyanjas, Let me warn you that Lozis anit creatures to play around with…..will release all those detained for treason by force including our father mututwa da former ngambela of da holy kindom of barotseland…….take this serious.!!!!!!!! thanks for arresting da activists of barotseland but I must warn that their consequences behind watch da space….foolish zambians…….I SUBMIT….Viva da holy kingdom of Barotseland,,,,,Here we come….
We will strike !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adviser # 129 When you say most of what I have mentioned should be handled by local government, you forget that the localgovernment system in Mongu is a 100 MMD council of which views Christopher Mundia is busy supporting. The failure of the local government system in Mongu can be directly attributed to what Christopher Mundia is supporting baselessly. And that s exactly my point. Why is he supporting a system that has failed his hometown un;ess he has individual benefits which he has decided it doesnt matter whether his home village gets anything or not. Thats think broadly about issues in our country. Thats why I say, in his home village (if he has a flushable toilet in his house in Lusaka – does he have a pit latrine in his village in Western Province). What satisfies him so much?
Zona Ba # 134 ndimwe bo zanda eze Daddy,You sound very bitter bro are you okey?You sound like a psychopath who needs to be locked away you are a danger to yourself,your family and the community at large.You need your sanity evaluated at Chinama.
while violence must be condemned in the strongest possible terms, i wish to call for the indictment of the mercenaries masquerading as law enforcement officers who killed innocent people and lied about it. what a shame that people can conceive and hatch such gross acts of barbarism, shooting a fellow citizen. you should have seen how they were rejoicing over their barbarism never the less the blood of the innocent has a voice and it will cry even from their graves.
You RSA chap why do you keep on changing your name? It is you who are fake.
the biggest mob is the goverment of Zambia., all booshit **** them all