THE Barotse Royal Establishment (BRE) has disassociated itself from calls for the release of the 22 treason detainees.
Induna Namuyamba said in an interview from Western Province that Mukumbuta Muluwani who was quoted on February 2 in the The Post article headlined ‘Induna urges release of 22 Lozi treason detainees’, does not speak on behalf of the BRE.
Induna Namuyambana said Mr Muluwani acted on his own when he issued the statement and that his position is not the stand of the BRE.
Induna Namuyamba, however, said the Ngambela is the official spokesperson of the BRE.
“We have a system where only the Ngambela is authorised to issue statements of that nature. We don’t even know this man (Mukumbuta Muluwani). If he is an Induna, then he should know the channels,” he said.
Mr Muluwani was quoted as saying the 22 should be released on a nolle prosequi as the case was with 92-year-old Maxwell Mututwa for the sake of peace.
Meanwhile, CHARLES MUSONDA reports that Police in Kaoma have launched investigations to establish who is circulating flyers calling on all non-Nkoyas to leave the district or face undisclosed consequences.
And the Nkoya-speaking people have disassociated themselves from the flyers and described the documents as fake and propaganda being perpetrated by their enemies.
Western Province commanding officer Fabian Katiba confirmed in an interview from Mongu yesterday that the police have opened investigations into the circulation of the flyers dated January 28, 2011.
“At the moment, I can’t disclose the number of people who have been questioned in connection with the flyers. I have not yet got a full report from Kaoma and I can only state the official position when I get the full report,” Mr Katiba said.
He said the culprits will face the law.
And a source has disclosed that two men in Kaoma have been identified as sources of the flyers and have since been reported to the police.
The source, who sought anonymity for security reasons, said a well known person based in Lusaka is behind the scheme, to allegedly create hatred among ethnic groups in Kaoma.
“This well known figure from Lusaka is using the locals of Kaoma to destabilise the district. He has come up with this scheme of circulating flyers to show that the Nkoya people want to create anarchy in Kaoma,” the source said.
The source said the men who have been implicated in the circulation of flyers are not even Nkoya by tribe.
Meanwhile, national chairman of the Kazanga Cultural Association of the Nkoya-speaking people Lytone Kaushiku has described the flyers as propaganda orchestrated by enemies of peace.
Mr Kaushiku said some people want to create an impression that there is confusion in Kaoma ahead of this year’s general elections.
He said contrary to the false impression created in the flyers, the Nkoya people have always co-existed with other ethnic groups in Kaoma and that its royal establishment includes other tribes.
“So it is uncalled for and totally wrong for one to say the Nkoyas don’t want other tribes in Kaoma.
These documents (the flyers) should not be entertained because none of the people behind them is Nkoya,” Mr Kaushiku said.
And the Nkoya Royal Establishment says it will not be part of the Barotse National Council scheduled to take place in Mongu. This is contained in a statement released in Lusaka yesterday by the royal establishment representative Jackson Mahepo.
Mr Mahepo said Government should not entertain anarchists and that the royal establishment will endeavour to work for all progressive citizens in Zambia and Western Province in particular.
He said the Nkoyas do not want to be part of the chaos and tension in the province.
He said no traditional authority should promote ethnic divisions.
Mr Mahepo said the current debate on the Barosteland Agreement is meant to betray the people of Western Province.
“It is an agenda to put trees, rivers, plains and the land of Western Province into the hands and control of some people.
“On our part, it is against human rights and the Constitution of Zambia to put citizens in groups and classes. The nation should know that such an attitude and behaviour is fertile ground for anarchy and chaos,” he said.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
Ok fine you dissassociate yourselves now can in the same manner the BRE please issue an official stance on the Barotse Agreement. Do you want some more people to shed blood before you put things clear?
There appears to be a divisive hand playing games here.This may lead to loss of peoples lives as people who have co-existed for centuries are now looking at each other with suspicion and mistrust.This happened in Mongu and the end result was faracas and chaos.
No sane person will issue flyers inssisting that their neighbour should leave when they too migrated to that place from somewhere.
The Tonga people for whom i have a lot of respect are the original inhabitants of Rhodesia or whatever it was called before.
The Nkoya Royal Establishment has found an opportunity in this madness to de-recognise their alliance to the Litunga.
Even GRZ officers are being asked to transfer on the pretext that they are advocates for secession.
This is what lead to the massacres in the great lakes region
BRE is weak and thus why we need strong men and women to run the affairs of barotseland. we need strong and courageous advisers to the litunga. Induna Namuyambana has no right to blame induna Mulwani cz him too is not the sportsperson of BRE. Let him the Ngambela come out not using cheap tactics. We are tired of this nonsense and BRE has to responsible in the way its handling our affairs…What is happening in Egypt is just a timely warning. We cant sit cowardly and watch our brother in Police cell without a charge. BRE has a right to discharge our brothers from the custody of GRZ. BRE is a government on its own working hand in hand with the central government..Lets work up from this slumber. I REMEMBER ILUTE YETA. we cant afford having cowardly puppets in the day to day running of…
genocide, thats what liyundandambo wanted to bring, thank God the uprising was crushed with little collateral damage. any ugly head seen to be supporting this evil grouping will be visited by the law
We need leadership.We need dialogue and we need development in all areas of Zambia and not just the areas been exploited for their mineral wealth.
Mankoya is now been floated as a possible new district in the delimitation of Zambia.Grant it the status and then work on a federal system of Govt. ensuring that decentralistaion empowers local people and projects including any settlers from any part of the world.
Prostitu Gaga or whatever.Just leave shut that beak and let sensible people discuss this matter.Whats this crush these peolpe,arrest them?
Dialogue is the way forward.
What is the agenda for the Barotse National Council meeting?
And what is the BRE going to negotiate with Government. They made submisions to NCC. What happened to these submissions?
This whole BA64 ISSUE is confusing.
This Induna Namuyamba is just a foolish Man, who is eating with Edwin Lubosi masheling’i o bafilwe ki muso wa MMD, He is even contradicting himself, on one hand he says BRE disassociates from the statement on the release of the 22 Lozis, on the other hand he say’s its only the Ngambela who can issues a statement on behalf of the BRE, what a shame, who is he representing then when uttering such nonsense. Ni luna aluna Ngambela,
BRE you making us sick !!!!! for GOD sake show leadership to your people. Dont be used by MMD and useless GRZ.you have to sacrifice for your children. our eyes are wide open waiting for BNC.BRE is supposed to be a non-political GOVT not what we are seeing today. for how long iz GRZ going to bribe you to ZIPUP you mouth????.BE SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!
We kill us employ those cowards to talk rubish but time will tell. The Litunga should be careful with his Indunas who are scared for the unkown just because they receive those brown envelops from State. Please release our brothers, for you our nkoya brothers work up can’t you see that Gvt is using you.
GAGA you are just nothing but a whole sperm chamber….who doesnt know you little brat !!!! What Genocide are talking about silly lady old cago.We stand for what is right and we will owz voice out our concerns for the betterment of our future generation….Callus names but aint goin to change our stance over Barotseland. it doenst matter how long but soon you will hear….open your ass !!!!
Well said Nkoya Royal Establishment, All Zambians have to live in a classless society.
#11 barotse army nonsense you are a coward if you strong join mutangelwa. seccession is in your dreams. read the agreement of 1964 nowhere does it give provision of separation. the majority of lozis are sane fortunately only few are sick in the head. zambia is one and western province is part of zambia;)
Its good that the BRE understands the BA64 very well,and hence their disassociating from these tribal demagogues known as Black bulls.Let the law take its course and all culprits brought to book.
Nkoyas are 2% of kaoma district…the home of the mbundas, luvales, nyengos, lundas luyanas etc. Fine we have head your cry. we know that you being used by GRZ to forward their agenda against Barotse National council. not all the nkoyas are in support of you useless propaganda. otherwise keep on with the Bif….am sure you aware that you are just making noise…your demands are a non-stater in Barotseland…you just came last week in 1905 and we welcomed you. look back before vomiting!!! keep on siding with GRZ but one day you will wake only to find everything is gone. you have betrayed your own brothers simply because of Brown envelopes. The problem with is that you are feeding mumbole. silly chaps!!!!!!
Its only foolish pipo like VJ and Gaga who will neva understand BA64..Are you deaf ?? I have owz stated that our agreement was not for separation but unity unless you rubbish it the way you wanted with your NCC. fine if you fully understand BA64 then why did you want to throw it from the constitution without consulting BRE??.just be realistic and face the truth. if you think GRZ has a right to abrogate it then fine the other part which makes Zambia as unitary state has a right to do the same….GAGA remove the dirty water from you skull……Old thing!!!!!!!
Who is induna Namuyamba to say BRE Iis not part of pipo calling for release of our brothers and sisters, he said it all its the Ngambela to say BRE is not part not him. we are very much aware that the current LITUNGA is MMD and thre is little he can do for his pipo. lady gaga time wil tell the BA 64 calls for a unitary state of zambia to be formed and if yo govt breaches it that means going separate ways try understand.
The Litunga is an intelligent man. He cant be associated with these thugs agitating for anarchy. Well done Litunga!
Ya lwanela sahae hana mulatu!!! Aba lukulule sicaba sa hesu!!!
There are some people who are have smoked Jay want to cause confusion. Who ever is thinking that there is something the government is not doing for Barotse come out and say it so that we move at the same pace. What is this restoration of the BA64.
There is a difference between secession and decentrilization. I think the Lozis had a vision of decentrilization when they were signing the BA64 not the secession you are trying to force on them. Decentralization is the way forward for Zambia whether people like it or not. If DRC can have it why not Zambia. The reason why the powers that may be want to suppless it is because of their selfish desire for total control. Let all loving Zambians support our brothers and sisters in the west during this period of time when they need support.
The powers that may be need to accept that Zambia can not be managed Centrally. Yes its sweety to do it by those that have the powers to do it but it is retrograsive interms of development. The next government, and I hope it will not be a selfish government, should think of introducing the decentralized type of governance in the constitution which alot of us have been hoping to be reflected in the constitution. This will solve the BA64 issue.
Baba lutoile mukaise we shall keep on with the struggle we have unexample to look at. Remember Sudan problems started like this if BRE thinks they can talk on behalf of people they are making a big mistake. Litunga is Litunga because of people withput us who are they negotiating the BA64 for if not the betterment of Barotsians.Litunga needs to be careful, some Indunas are stupid Namuyamba says its only the Ngambela who is supposed to talk about BA issues but who gave him the Authority to talk or comment on this Issue, I suppose he was also speaking on his own behalf as well not as an Induna representing the people of Barotseland
Too much ganja when mixed with cheap tujilijili and local kachasu will be the death of Barotseland. GRZ should open some factories of some sort where all these useless youths will find something to do other than smoking a injecting their slow minds with killer alcohol.
Kick the Litunga out of POWER!!! He is a sell out and week of late. I used to admire him for his wise stance on many issues and commenting on issues afetr consultation with his advisers. I know the Litunga is held high but he seem to have been compromised of late, going against the wishes of his people and leaving them to he harrassed by the MMD police service.
The mercenarism of Lubosi and his stinking opportunistic indunas has struck the lunatic level. Just who the hell does this ***** think he is reigning over? The people of Barotseland had always wanted Aka to be the Litunga but Chiluba and his friend Walubita installed this pathetic spineless jackal on the Lioma and now we are laden with such pathetic cowardice. Well, with all the floads in the Ngulu Talutoya, we’ll see who will paddle him during Kuomboka and if we will, he had better learn how to swim very long distance because Kaongolo ka Nyambe ‘munungu’ wa Mataba munomwaha lutaka yalula lilaho fa lioma la bondata lun.’
This is one of the worst Litungas we’ve had. He has to go and I hope it’s soon. I dearly miss Ilute he stood for the people but unfortunately he was taken way by that short man (FTJ) in order to enrich himself. This Litunga is nothing but a puppet and is not respected as much as his predecessor.
what pipo must know is that the war between Kaondes and Lozis came as a result of wanting to free the Nkoyas form kaondes in Kasempa at a hill called kasumba kamusongolwa.The Nkoyas came from Congo and wanted to follow their brothers the luyanas in the present Barostseland.The Luyana army came to Kasempa to ask chief Kasempa why he has detained the nkoyas.The luyanas managed to free the Nkoyas and took them to Simunyange plain in lukona where they stayed for sometime until they asked the litunga to find them a dry place it was when they were brought to Kaoma.
Leto ther Litunga being threatened with a drowning in # 26. Ha Ha Ha people are very angry, very very angry.
I wish the paddlers can get the boat stuck at some island and jump off the Nalikwanda to leave the Litunga stranded.
So the Lozis and nkoyas are brothers no one will ever separate them.Even installing a nkoya chief the litunga has to do that.the Silimba played during kuombka those are nkoya.please live the lozi and Nkoya to live in peace.Baroseland is for every Zambian and they are free to settle their.
Lady Gaga and VJ, don’t mind these tujilijili-drinking and ganja-smoking fringe lunatics like Barotse Army and Litaba, You have a lot of support and like-minded individuals on this thread.
Gilbert Lubinda, after you have insulted the Nkoyas and they have stood up to you, you’re now trying to placate them having realized how isolated you are on this BA64 issue. Sorry mate, these tribes are not gonna buy this story and they have made it abundantly clear that they are part of Zambia come hell or high water.
Let the nkoyas learn from words of wisdom from my brother lubinda……..thanks luby. where is that GAGA and VJ ??? The army is here to attack you morons!!!!!!
Another fool RICKY…..WELCOME The ARMY is Here. What rubbish are talking ???
So The Litunga does not want his subjects released?? Very Interesting, very interesting reading indeed. Instead of the Litunga saying release them in the interest of dialogue. he wants the “accussed” detained???
Ricky what has my brother the Barotse army and me done? is it because you failed to mislead us with your way of thinking. If what I say irritates you do not read and I do not right it for my dear.If you want information just ask we are ready to give you. How would you have felt if it were your tribes men who were shot at for just want to assemble after asking for a so called permit for 4 TIMES.what I know is that one should just notify the police, but what did they do, they stated spreading lies that we want to chase non lozi from barotseland that was alie which was just meant to justfy the killing of our brothers. the groups reaptedly said we are not chasing anyone on our local radio stations all we want is our views to be heard. Yes you have killed brothers but that is not the end.
This Mahepo guy is quite shallow. To start with, no one asked for his opinion on the issue of the Barotse National Council. He seems to be preoccupied with hate so much that he wants to portray asif whatever the council intends to discuss is evil. & yet it was made clear that the grouping wants to discuss issues that led to mass riots in WP and what can be done to bring peace back to the province. Some of us are well aware that the Nkoyas have always disliked the lozis & they want to use the current mishaps in Bulozi land to portray as if they are very good characters. Anything done out of hate won’t work. Whether the Nkoyas attend the BNC or not it doesn’t matter. The people attending that meeting are already adequately educated & won’t need some dunder-heads just to go and disturb.
And for those saying that the BA64 does not mention issues of separation or secession, I agree with you that such issues were not mentioned. Now what you need to do is widen your thinking. I am going to tell you this: in any agreement there are issues of the agreement working or not working and when it doesn’t work either party is free to abrogate it and resort to initial Position
@BAROTSE ARMY & THE LIKE!!:
Why don’t you f.o.o.ls simply bend over, touch your ankles, and let real men have their way in your CHACOAL-DARK a.sses, maybe then you gonna comb down for once!! You i.diots are too excited for nothing. You have really lost any sense of reality. And if you keep up with this, CHINAMA will be your next stop.
Who do you really think you are to be so disrespectful to other people/tribes simply because they don’t want to be part of your “Fu.cked up Dreams”? Do you really think that majority Zambians give a sh!t what kind of imbeciles you people are?! Just leave those who don’t want to be part of your infantile schemes alone, you hear?! You cowards hide behind the Internet and you think you can say whatever you feel like about other tribes—-ENOUGH!!!
# 36. We all realise that you are gay & Zambia has no place for animals like you. Your language also lacks civility which talks a lot about where you grew up from. In Zambia its easy to determine one’s pedigree. There are certain tribes that take insults as being part of their daily menu- to them its normal. But we let them be because they grew up like ‘kaponyas’ anyway. The Lozis haven’t forced anyone to fight their battle. what you should ask yourself is why are the Lozis fighting for secession now, why were they not fighting in Mwanawasa’s time. Zambia is headed for something terible if the type leaders we have are not changed. Lozis have highly educated people who are supposed to be in leadership but this government has sidelined them. Again no tangible development is taking…
@ Rhupiatis:
Please spare me your blah blah blah!
I never once mentioned Lozis, as a group, in my posting above. My quarrel is with imbe.ciles in the likes of BAROTSE ARMY! For your information, even the majority Lozis don’t agree with the kind of garbage you people seem to be in love with.
True, FANTANCIES have their place in any one’s life, but if you stretch them too far they will lead you into trouble—this is how serial killers are born! So please you can fantasize all you want about the “GREAT BAROTSE KINGDOM”, but be reminded that a century after all you nincompoops are dead and gone, WP will still be part of Zambia. So why not just take up another hobby instead of inciting people to fight causes that will only lead them to their DEATHS. And Next time, the ARMY!!