President Sata has said that Zambia will print its own ballot papers for future elections. The President said in Lusaka on yesterday that the November 24 Magoye and Nakonde parliamentary by-elections will be the last to be conducted on foreign-printed ballots.
He said Zambia cannot continue to print ballot papers in other countries after 47 years of independence.
“If it means spending all the coffers to bring in equipment, we will do it. We will print ballot papers here,” Mr Sata said. He said this when he attended the post-election thanksgiving prayer service organised by the Zambia Episcopal Conference (ZEC), Council of Churches in Zambia (CCZ) and Evangelical Fellowship of Zambia (EFZ) at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross.
And the President said parallel vote tabulation (PVT) made it difficult for the MMD to rig the September 20 tripartite elections. “I would like to thank educated people like my wife. I didn’t know that she can divert from medicine to run PVT because without PVT, our friends were already celebrating. They had even arranged for the inauguration (of former President Banda). But with PVT she arranged with her daughter and granddaughter, we have got what we want. This is the will of God and we will not let you down,” Mr Sata said.
He, however, said he agrees with some people saying the elections were not fully transparent because the Zambia Police Service in Solwezi is still keeping ballot boxes which some people wanted to use in rigging the polls.
Meanwhile, President Sata says had the MMD built on where former President Kenneth Kaunda left, the majority of Zambians would not have been wallowing in poverty. He said Zambia cannot be described as peaceful because many people are failing to afford meals while others cannot find employment.
Mr Sata said his Government is determined to create jobs for everyone. “Dr Kaunda once created that environment. We had to import people from Tanzania, Congo, and Lesotho to come and work in Zambia. He even imported people from Zimbabwe to come and sell beer and from Malawi to come and work as clerks in the mines. How can we fail to do that?” he said.
[pullquote] “I would like to thank educated people like my wife. I didn’t know that she can divert from medicine to run PVT because without PVT, our friends were already celebrating. They had even arranged for the inauguration (of former President Banda). But with PVT she arranged with her daughter and granddaughter, we have got what we want. This is the will of God and we will not let you down,” Mr Sata said.[/pullquote]
Mr Sata said he will be failing in his duties as republican President if expectant mothers continue dying due to lack of access to maternity treatment or if children continue dying of diseases like measles.
He said Zambians are not using their God-given talents adequately, resulting in many of them committing several criminal offences including corruption. He said some prisoners are just forced by circumstances to commit crime.
“If we as a people can sacrifice a little, we can establish prisons and reformatory centres where we can only have habitual criminals, not most of those people who are there. If we can keep young men and women occupied, we will help Mrs Sata who is fighting HIV and AIDS because I was told one day by Chief Justice (Ernest Sakala) that idle hands are always tempted.
“If young people have jobs, they will have very little time for vices. We will not sit idly by when we know we can do something to create jobs” he said.
And Mr Sata thanked the three church mother bodies for organising the prayer service at short notice.
[pullquote]. “Dr Kaunda once created that environment. We had to import people from Tanzania, Congo, and Lesotho to come and work in Zambia. He even imported people from Zimbabwe to come and sell beer and from Malawi to come and work as clerks in the mines. How can we fail to do that?” he said.[/pullquote]
He said he wants Zambia to have a strong religious background and asked the three church mother bodies to make written submissions on how this can be achieved or even legislated.
He said it does not make sense for people to just boast about Zambia’s declaration as a Christian nation when their behaviour is anti-Christ. The President pledged that his Government will rehabilitate Lubwa Mission in Chinsali, Dr Kaunda’s birth place.
He said the church contributed greatly to Zambia’s independence and civilisation, adding that without the clergy, Dr Kaunda would not have managed to fight for Zambia’s independence.
Earlier, ZEC representative Father Cletus Mwila urged political parties to exercise love because national unity of purpose is more important than human beings. Fr Mwila urged citizens to contribute to the development of Zambia so that change can start bearing fruit.
“Let’s put our resources together and insist on togetherness as God’s children. Let’s make serious contribution to hard work,” he said.
EFZ executive director Reverend PukutaMwanza commended the church for praying for peace before, during and after the elections.
He thanked former President Banda for fulfilling his pledge to accept election results, which he said reflected the people’s will.
Dignitaries who attended the service included Dr Kaunda, Chief Justice Ernest Sakala, Vice-President Guy Scott, former Lusaka Diocese Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo, service chiefs, members of the diplomatic corps, ministers and members of Parliament.
And the Zambia Episcopal Conference secretary general Cleophas Lungu has urged leaders to exercise justice, peace, reconciliation, love and sacrifice.
Father Lungu said this at the Feast of the Good Shepherd at Kabwata’s Good Shepherd Catholic Church in Lusaka yesterday.
“If you want to be leader, you should develop the spirit of love, reconciliation and sacrifice for your own people,” he said. Fr Lungu said leaders should exhibit passion and love for the country and care for the people.
He said church leaders will be happy to see all leaders, particularly politicians, practising love for their country.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
iyo ni 90 days kwena ,lets SATA
WE HOPE YOU WILL BE TOLERANT WITH OTHER PRIVATE MEDIA ORGANISATION AND DON’T BRING THOSE 3 RD TERM ROTTEN DICTATORSHIP TACTICS YOU ALMOST PUT OUR COUNTRY ON FIRE DURING THE THIRD TERM, WE HOPE THIS EMPHASIS ON LOCAL PRINTING OF BARROT PAPERS IS DONE WITH HONEST HEARTS. OTHER WISE WE ARE WISHING YOU ALL THE BEST WITH YOUR TRIBALISM OR FAMILY TREE CABINET
behave mate or take your tribal crap to choma or monze
fun how people who see tribalism in others are actually the worst tribalist. you chaps are always talking about tribalism and a family tree which you Octopus are pushing.
Ati “BARROT”!! LOL
useless fool. whats wrong with you?
@ #2 you’re a jackasss. Not surprised though, what more can we expect from someone with a hole in his pumpkin, like you. Always wishing for a good cause to fail, you must be retarded.
He had chance to nominate to fill up the Gap.. but instead over appointed even the Nsandas!!!
Number two has a right to voice his views…as retarded as the might be…thats the beauty of democracy…You are no doubt passionate about Sata…his cabinet however is not balanced on tribal lines…but if it is balanced on intellectual lines, in my humble opinion, i have no problem (if a dog has to run Zambia better…then so be it!)…
@BC THE ONE, FAACK YO ASS MATE, DONT MAKE US BELIEVE SATA IS AN ANGEL WHEN WE KNOW MANY EVILS HE DID FOR MOTHER ZAMBIA, ITS AN OPEN SECRET THAT THIS THUG IS IS A TRIBALISTIC MORON
SATA WILL PERFORM HOW CAN HE APPOINT UPND WHEN THE SOUTHERNERS DIDNT VOTE FOR HIM.IN THE PACT THEY ACCUSED PF OF SHARING POSITIONS SO WHAT HAS CHANGED NOW THEY WANT TO BE APPOINTED WHEN YOU SAID SATA SURPORTS GAYS.LUSAKATIMES YOU REPORT WELL UNLIKE ZWD WHICH IS LOSING BLOGGERS.
I can’t agree more with Mr Sata. I just hope this issues are looked into and ASAP. Let him also look into the issue of contructors and Zambian business people. I think special attention and policies should be enacted to protect the interest of Zambian busisness people.
MR SATA IS PERFORMING WELL AND HE IS KEEPING HIS PROMISE TO BRING SANITY TO ZAMBIA WITH IN 90 DAYS.ITS NICE TO HEAR FROM THE GOVT THAT THE BALLOT PAPERS WILL BE NOW PRINTED IN ZAMBIA .ITS SHAME FOR UPG OF SOUTH AFRICA WHO HAS PLUNDERED BILLIONS OF RANDS FROM THE ZAMBIANS WITH THE CORRUPT FORMER MMD GOVT AND ALL THESE GUYS SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO BOOK AND FACE JUSTICE VIVA.PAWATO VIVA PF.
Zambians are fools and *****s for electing this mad man. Mark my words, you will all regret.
only an under5 fan can say that
Its unfortunate that you have seen insanity in what our president is doing and not what RB, Dora Slit and Chanda Chimba III were doing. You are either MMD or UPND or had a share from our coffers. Utwebe
you are the biggest fool. God forbid! you are the one who is going to regret
you are the *** you mean oot of all zambians who elected Shi Chilufya we wakwatapo fye amano niwe mumbwe…??? dont tok *** about my president
Let’s judge Sata on performance. Whatever our fears of the man, let us support him whether we voted for him or not. If he lost RB would be the president right now. There was no other candidate to winnable choose from.
‘Zambians are fools and *****s’ – this includes your mother and father! You are a twat – best you shut it if you cannot respect the decision of electorates
Good move Mr president,you have our support.
Sata is a very polarizing figure, Ther some of us who cannot be convinced with the simple act of majic when we can plenly see what is happenning with our open eyes. When a cobra sheds its skin its still a cobra! Sata is a product of corruption and he knows the game of rigging that anybody else. He and Vernon Mwaanga kept the book! Sat is more of the same if not worse.
HABIBI I DO AGREE WITH YOU I DON’T WANT TO BE SO EXCITED WITH THIS EUPHORIA AND EXCITEMENT WHY SHOULD PF MAKE US HERO WORSHIP THIS DICTATOR WE ALL KNOW HIS WAY OF DOING THINGS , THE POST HAVE CATALOGUE OF HIS EVILS AND WANT TO PAINT HIM AS AN ANGEL, HIM AND GODEN MANDANDI DID UNTOLD SCAMS SUCH AS THE 2BILLION SCANDLE SO I DONT WANT TO FOLLOW THIS PF POLITICAL ORGASM
Zambians have a very short memory and a myopic view of events. Remenber when Sata and Mandandi withdrew then K2 billion Kwacha from National Assembly to be used for elections. On his tribal appointments which seem to come from FTJ playbook of divide and rule, many people have said that he could not appoint Tongas because they did not support him, that is simply Petty and vindictiveness that should not be expected from a head of state!!! But is he a Head of State?
There is is need for the nations cabinet to be as representative of the country’s as much as possible.You cannot convince me that all the qualified people in Zambia come from the North (Northen and luapula). In showing his resentment for the other tribes, Sata’s his inner circle or the most critical cabinet post have gone to the North, WHY??? You cannot preach one Zambia one nation on one hand and divdie and conquer on the other, bigotry and hypocritcal!
Defense, Finance, Foreign affairs, Home affairs, Local gorvenment, Health, etc all to the NORTH!!! Tribalism at its worst!
Tough mate if it bothers you so much go and make a tonga or Lozi cabinet in your village. then like him you can put your most trusted people in the critical posts like cattle affairs, whoring and getting drunk
You will be shocked that these Tonga’s are the most educated people in Zambia, try to take a survey of the tribe with the most educated and prosperous individuals. You are going to agree with me and for this reason; the government should be inclusive regardless of the tribes. It doesn’t matter who voted for our President, he is a president for all. We can only wish and hope that his heart goes to every Zambian who can’t put food on the table for his children. It hates to be a parent especially if you cannot provide for your kids. People are willing to work but the notion of knowing someone to get a job is what sucks in Zambia
if they are so well off they don,t need govt jobs HH can help them if not …tough mate
#9 & #10 & 11#
I think you are probably the same person and that line of reasoning along tribal lines is unnecessary and attack on my tribesman Mr Sata is unacceptable. There is enough ammunition to use against this government and please leave the tribal gun out of it.
Guy Scott is not from Northern or Luapula. I don’t think Sata really picked people based on tribe , he just picked his close friends and people close to him who understand his agenda and unfortunately people who understand his agenda happen to have same roots as him.
It is just human and natural in the beginning to pick people close to you until their boat is stable. I think down the line he will start finding people from Southern province. KK did not have the whole southern province hate him, like Sata now.
i can see baba that you are being neutral. congratulations cause the debate will be good
Good analysis.Awe tata mwakula nomba…congrats !
@ BOOT LICKER , YOU HAVE MISSED THE POINT #9 ,#11 ARE TRYING TO BRING SENSE THAT YOU CANT DISH 95% OF GRZ POSITIONS TO NORTHERNERS/LUAPLANS, YOUR SYMPATHY ON PF SHOWS YOUR OPPORTUNISM NOW THAT MMD HAS BEEN KICKED OUT YOU WANT TO HAVE A CAKE WITH PF, A WRONG IS A WRONG SATA IS SETTING A BAD PRECEDENCE, ITS AN OPEN SECRET SATA HATES SOUTHERNERS, AND WHEN POINT OUT HIS TRIBALISM IT NOT THAT WE HATE HIM NO, WE KNOW SATA IS A PRODUCT OF CORRUPTION THE POST HAVE AMOUNTAIN OF FACTS ABOUT HIM IN THEIR ARCHIVES, SO DONT MISLEAD THE PUBLIC WITH YOUR OPPORTUNISM
@caradon, I agree with you entirely. There is no tribe which is inherently intelligent. However, some sections should also come out of tribal inclinations and begin to think using their heads not their tribe. It hurts me so much that our colleagues in Southern Province think that they can unseat a government with a tribal vote. UPND should sell itself to the rest of the country. Even when the writings were so clear on the wall that the race was between PF and MMD, our friends in UPND didnt take this analysis seriously. I do agree with the Post editorial comment in which it described HH as a selfish man who doesnt accept the strength of others. He left the pact becoz he wanted the presidency arguing that he was more popular than Sata. Election results told us who was popular between the two
#8, 9, 10 & 11 – the same blogger changing ids. One thing you must be told is that if HH had been elected president, 101% cabinet positions would have been Tonga. Any Zambian who cares to reflect seriously would agree with me.
l do agree and l am sure so do many
Or gee, these Tongas want jobs in Sata’s govt? Sorry guys, you need to re-organize your UPND so that HH will be able to appoint you to positions if he forms govt which is very unrealistic though. If you want jobs in the PF’s govt repent and stop your tribal politics and begin to vote for other tribes too. When you do that you will be considered for jobs because at that time you will be trusted. For now your motive is to frustrate govt’s policies so that Sata fails to deliver. We are aware of your intentions you minions. How could you attempt to bock the election of a mature man Judge Patrick Matibini to the position of a Speaker? You cant compare your nonentity Kapita to Matibini.
If HH forms govt by fluke, the govt will be a govt of the Tongas by the Tongas and for the Tongas. I dont like HH’s politics. They are so filthy and smelly. The chap is inexperienced. He needs to mature politically. To do this he has to start from somewhere as a councilor or MP before he attempts the presidency. The chap is still smelling chibwantu and mabisi. He is still very raw.
MMD Bootlicker, I enjoy your analytic and logical reasoning in presenting your thoughts on this forum, I still disagree and hate to invoke the tribal tag in this debate. I think our country is headed towards a very steep and dangerous part. I hurt to be caught up in it. I still think that Sata cannot unify our nation and he is very tribal in manner and conduct. The post who propelled Sata to State house acknowledged this fact in their editorial of the 4th October please review that if you have not. If you can be true to yourself, you know that the tribal sentiments in zambia are one sided! In the states, a blackman cannot be racist only a white person! anyway, I have lots of course work to do than blog, am just saying!
what tribe are you ?
If you were really as busy as you claim to be, you would not be on this site. Now quit the BSing and get on your “course work”. I hope you don’t display the same level of dumbness in your school work as you have here.
KB, u r the most primitive person with a lot of poverty in your head. Just your tone clearly defines what type of a tribalist you are. By the way who is more tribal between you and the Tongas from your tone and who can condone such nonsense from such utterances like yours ? Stop reasoning like a pig or chicken but try to align your degree of of thinking to that of a human being. I’ m a Bemba but the level of pride that is emerging among us Bembas after Sata’ s election as Republican President with regard to the languange being used against other tribes doest not portray a good picture in an upcoming democratic country like Zamba. Mind you, Bembas are not the only Zambians so try to swallow your pride. Just for your information, Tongas are highly developed than you, miles away.
@ Lilly Mwila, I wont retract my opinion. Why are you hurt bwana? The truth hurts anyway. I insists just go and re-organise your UPND. In fact dont lie that you are Bemba. You are a small Tonga from Mapanza who is deeply routed in UPND’s tribal doctrines. Dont hide under the shell of Bemba when you are not. Whom do you want to mislead? Just keep mourning your electoral loss and when you are done you will be able to think reasonably. PF ni Boma manje…Alluta Continua.
Mr sata u went there fo church service not politics learn to differentiate things, we dont know where u are taking this country now its the problem of Zambians fo voting this man in the office now they learn a lesson specially these kaponyas bcoz they expect more money in their pockets
@SK, YOU ARE RIGHT THIS MAN JUST HALLUCINATES ANY HOW EVEN AT CHURCH HE WILL BRING POLITICS, WHAT FOOL CAN BELIEVE THAT HE WILL PUT MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS UNLESS HE ROUTES OUR TREASURY THE WAY HE DID WITH K2BILLION NA CHI MANDANDI, ANY WAY LETS WAIT THIS IS THE SAME MMD REGROUPING TO ROUTE OUR TREASURY
Just shut up you SK. What are you talking about? Sata is president whether you like it or not. You should have traveled home to prevent an MMD loss by voting for such a corrupt party. Let Sata speak politics wherever he is. If he wants he can still politics in heaven because his leadership was anointed by God. Viva Sata wamuyayayaya. The Boat is in State House. The MMD clock stopped ticking on September 23rd, it ran out of batteries.
THERE WE GO ANOTHER TRIBAL KAPONYA AT IT AGAIN, GET A LIFE
HE you are right . . . . the saying does go and rightly . . .. behind every successful (victorious) man there is a woman and as you rightly point out (in this case) an educated woman and I add and beautiful.
The PVT suggested did work and it’s good you were all hands-on and watchful. I surely hope that Zambia will really become a better country and as you rightly say Zambia cannot be described as peaceful because many people are failing to afford meals while others cannot find employment.
Tonga tribal party now HE Sata is charge ? you were so sure HH will win & u get best jobs ka? Don,t go around calling people uneducated kaponyas, your blind under5 loyalty is biting now ka. Lets try this in Tonga chibotela mubwa kuluma mpongo not mpongo kuluma mubwa……. take your education to choma or monze and wait for under5 to win. but as he will never ever win ezame nyokola njala
:(( ANOTHER TRIBAL BEMBA F00L AT IT AGAIN
Mr President Sir,we really regreat having wasted time to put you at plot.we the people of Zambia needed your wisdom & your hardworking spirit and indeed its time you sweep no kuchapa chino chalo.Zambians need to have a sense of belonging and above all pride to be who we are.All human beings are same in the eyes of the lord and nomwela tupemafye umo.No one should feel more Zambians than the other.Its just chance that some people are in some position and should not feel others cant.Mr President & your team please make Zambia a better place for you and me & the entire human race.Lets share the national cake bonse.Well organised thanks giving and happy to see ba shikulu ba KK.Ba choir the song was tutemwane bane bonse, mwebacibusa bandi mukonke fyebo fwandi naine nkamisenda mukaye mona tata
wow@ Chibwantu Mabisi, you have really made my dear. You are spot on my dear. There can never any better expression than the way you have rightly pointed out. I have nothing much to add. Just look at the voting pattern in Southern Province as reflected on ECZ site..how can HH in some constituencies be amassing 31, 000 votes and the second man getting less than 1000 votes and Sata with a paltry 170 votes? This is a tribal conspiracy of the worst kind. Tongas are being punished for their stupid hate of other tribes. You fools you will never form govt. For now just continue being in the opposition and make some silly and futile noise while power continues to slip through your nose. Good luck with your opposition ba UPND. However, remember even your loyal votes will one day get fed up of u.
Bravo Chibwantu Mabisi. Kindly give us an interpretation of that vernacular expression which sounds to be Tonga if am not mistaken. I like your choice of words and the way you analyse politics in our country. How can the Tongas want jobs in PF govt when they are bent on frustrating Sata? Who can trust them? Moreover as KB puts it, they didnt even vote for Sata but for their under five chap who is by now still gnashing his teeth over the loss of elections. I feel bad for the under five chap…give him more diapers because am told after the election results were declared the chap has had a chronic diarrhea. He is still mourning the loss and regretting leaving the pact. He has opted to make friendship with his fellow loser RB.
its ok for dog bite a goat, but not ok for a goat to retaliate ……. the tonga tribalist take its ok for the tongas to to be have a good life but not ok for other tribes to.
So,now the problem is the cabinet.Mr sata only appointed a few people from the opposition whom he knows can give him more numbers in parliament & hence more autonomy.If had picked on people like nkhombo,they would oppose him even within cabinet.Tonga’s are so intolerant,but for a few exception,shamenda,simuusa for a example.There were killings in mazabuka but they still voted on tribal line,unlike the very analytical westerners.Mind you,the president had only 8 nominations to make,he would have been foolish,to choose people he cant trust
No 21 i think you people should know that Jesus Christ went to the temple and spoke more or less politics and he once called someone a fox.The president just spoke the truth and nothing politics about it.He called the spade by its name and no wonder the entire gathering was alulating. What is politics about saying all people are same in the eyes of the lord,people dying out of measles and our beloved mothers dying with pregnancy complication due to no equipment i our hospital and evil intentions by wicked people who wanted to deprive us our sweet victory be practical and have open mind dont just condemn.If Supper ken can clap who are we to argue with the the lord.Trueth hurts
For the credibility of elections, this is not a decision Sata should make unilaterally. It should be done in consultation with all stakeholders i.e., political parties, election monitors etc., otherwise it will lack transparency and seem susceptible to electoral fraud!
Is this for real??
“And Mr Sata thanked the three church mother bodies for organising the prayer service at short notice.
He said he wants Zambia to have a strong religious background and asked the three church mother bodies to make written submissions on how this can be achieved or even legislated.”
If someone does not want to be religious, we cannot force them in a democratic society. This statement is bordering on infringing on the democratic rights of Zambians.
I thought the Issue at hand is ballot papers to be printed in zambia but why have we gone into tribal remarks? I can’t we discuss the speech made by Mr SATA?.let’s learn to be objective
@ #13 MMD Chief Bootlicker
I agree with you on that one. These tribal accusations against President Sata are uncalled for, disgusting, disgraceful and petty. President Sata did not select his cabinet based on tribe but based on ideology (i.e people who share his vision). Tribe has got nothing to do with it. This tribal accusations against the president are baseless.
Good point to have ballot papers printed in the country, only hope that the political parties including the PF will have faith in their own institutions. History has shown that some of the sources of conflict have been lack of faith in our own institutions. If this has changed with PF in power then why not strengthen our own institutions and have most of our logistical support done inhouse.
The day i will read about the president talking about guys dual citizenship will be one of the greatest. What is the new gov’t stance on this one?
Mr Presido, zambians belong to a number of dominations please be a president of zambians and not a section of zambians, your cabinet selection has much to be desired, so please to not divde zambia.
Sata says his government wants to create jobs for everyone! How? Does the man understand what he is saying? With a population of 13million, only about 700,000 Zambians are in formal employment. One of the key issues Sata prosecuted his campaign on was job creation—and that is why those unemployed youths gave him their vote. And yet up to now Sata has not outlined his government`s job creation strategy. Sata should by now have outlined an estimation of how many jobs his government will create —–province by province in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016. Interestingly, Sata is quoting how Zambia created jobs in the 1960s, unfortunately 1960s approaches cannot work today. The truth is PF has no credentials to create meaningful jobs across the country. Just look at Sata cabinet
Why can’t the President move on now and talk about job creation, about need for secondary industries to create jobs, about all weather bridges, about dams and farming-inputs being available all the time to encourage round the year crop farming, about, about encouraging cottage industries to use copper as raw material and produce finished products like switches, sim cards, etc locally and thereby creating more jobs, and increasing the tax base etc etc… instead of predominantly focusing on elections and ballot papers. Time is running out, and soon patience will wear thin among the young jobless voters to are waiting for action. Lets move on.
#35 do not forget that Zambia is not a kantemba and so the president needs time to clean up the whole country and by doing so, job creation will be on its way
Mr. Capitalist #30, When you say, ” the tribal accusations against Sata are baseless” you should try to back it up with same figures atleast. The Post who are Sata`s friends raised the iasue of Sata`s tribal appointments. The Post said more than 50% of those appointed as Ministers are either relatives or from the same tribe. The problem in Zambia is that we so tribal inclined— and as long as the president is from your tribe —-you dont criticise what ever they do or say. And this has contributed to Zambia lagging behind in terms of meaningful develoment. I look forward to a Zambia where people will be free from tribal slavery.
Those who are diverting the discussion into tribal politics are the frustrated UPND cadres pouring sour grapes our President. I sympathize with them anyway because losing an election is not a joke. Just like what VJ said after the 2001 elections that losing an election pains like hell. VJ predicted that some of the opposition leaders will suffer from seizure, hypertension and get admitted to hospitals for medical care. He called on the paramedics to arrange enough stretchers that will be used to carry some of the opposition leaders after the election results will be announced. This is exactly what is happening with our colleagues UPND and MMD cadres. They are still hallucinating and many of them living in denial. They are really hurting inside, so we can understand their rantings.
#40- don’t you have your own eyes and brains to discern or make your won judgement? Does it mean that when the post says something then that’s what zambia must follow? Has the article talked about tribes? I see No reason why your are bringing in the issue of tribes in a discussion which is simple and straight forward.i’ve differed with Mr Capitalist and bootlicker but on this one I agree with them.It’s not everything you that you can oppose that’s not the meaning of being an opposition party and if you are going to use tribe as a campaign strategy then your party will never be in power.Your comments are full of hatred and maliciuos.
@#2 my brother no need 2 be bitter about the President…Let us give him time and support.Umuntu elyo eingile mu office n you uv already started doubting him…Let us stop all that bad attitude toward our president..Umuntu nga mukali ku mutasha..U dont loose anything by doing that…
@ MK THANKS MY BROTHER FOR YOUR MATURE DEBATE, I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD MY POINT IN FACT I EVEN WISHED THIS CABINET ALL THE BEST, ALL I CAUTIONED IS FOR SATA TO BE NEUTRAL WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT SHARE HIS VISION AND THAT HE MUST NOT EXHIBIT THE BEHAVIOUR HE SHOWED DURING THE 3RD TERM, THIS IS AN OPEN SECRET WE ALL KNOW THAT SATA NEVER CONDUCTED HIMSELF AS NORMAL OR SANE PERSON DURING THIRD TERM HIS BEAVIOR WAS STINKING
Let him appoint whoever he wants. In fact I would love to see him appointing his own clan and family members because they stood with him during the time he was going through the tribulations under the previous regime. Just work hard you ba UPND and form a govt in which you will be able to appoint even ng’ombes into the ministerial positions. I find the UPND cadres’ debates on this forum cynical and full of hate against our victorious president. When are you going to accept that Sata is the Presidento of the entire country and its people including your own ng’ombes? Am sure you chaps are drunk with Chibwantu and mabisi hence your shallow debate. Anyway it is only this Tonga affiliated forum on which you can read such kind of comments.
Leave HH alone! He is smart and the future president. PF is in power and there is no justification for comparison. UPND is not in power and has not yet been tried in govt. If national unity was at the heart of the appointing authority he should have appointed UPND MPs to Ministerial positions not MMD. Sata does not love MMD and he wants to destroy it by using its own members such as the appointed MPs. He is using the POst to destroy the Iimage of HH. Note that you will destroy HH because he is his own man!
My name is Mushota Chimfwembe
Thanks
Fellow bloggers please, let us be analytical in the way we put our issues forward, remember this is WWW what ever we put here is being read the world over, what kind of message are we sending with such type of mediocre, shallow and myopic analysis. all these tribal sentiments are making me sick, by the way there is an ancient saying here in Southern province that ‘mwana wa chisi’, simply put if you are not a southerner u are not accepted no matter how good u may be. UPND never trusted Sata. Allow the president to settle and sort out the mess that even RB accepted during the handover of state house that yes indeed there are problems in this country, Sata has a big task ahead of him and for sure he would like to work with people that share his passion and vision, lets support him.
Mushota, Sata has taken note of your name! Good luck with the pending appointment.
#8,910,11 and 12, WE ARE NOT FOOLS. WE KNOW YOU ARE THE SAME BLOGGER. HOW CHEAP !!
to all people who hate sata and think he is tribal. have you really looked at your selves and really asked why you hate the man.
this country was being run by con men who never respected the rule of law. stole from the country with no regard for the common man.
and in the end you sat on your behind smiling thinking everything was alright when in fact the nation was in a toilet with so called shooting and abusing Zambian.
give the man a chance.
he might be a product but at least he speaks for the weak in society.
lekini sata ateke.
Our president is a True Christian and he is showing us true colors of a Christian!
so if he appointed tongas wouldn’t you accuse him of trying to please tongas or fragment the upnd? i beg for an answer
It just makes sense that printing the ballot papers within Zambia will save a lot of tax payers
money.We got rid of Cambridge School Certificate Examinations sometimes in 1980 because
it was costing us too much money.Why do we have the propensity of making other countries
richer.?No wonder we even import things like matches[match sticks]!!
I was very disappointed with the vote turnout in southern province regardless of what this country is going through.. I like tongas but I hate their tribalism mentality with their wicked quest for superiority….. what makes them think they are the most educated when niba kachema ba ngombe…Tongas showed the country clearly that they only support their blood….. trust me we have over 70 tribes in this country but it will take even another century for a Tonga to be a president if they won’t swallow their pride and behave to be part of this country… at least the lozis are learning fast enough. why do the Zambians find it easy to vote for these other tribes which have been ruling for the past decades to date? because these tribes are neutral plain and simple.. WAKE UP TONGA’S
YOU JUST SHOWED YOUR IGNORANCE AND HURT FOR TONGAZ, BEMBAS HAVE NEVER NEVER VOTED FOR ANY TONGA, EVEN MAZOKA WHO WAS 100 FAR BETTER THAN SATA BEMBAS NEVER VOTED FOR HIM SO WAS WITH HH, TONGAS IN THE PAST HAVE VOTED FOR BEMBAS SUCH AS KA CHILUBA 99% AND EVEN KAUNDA WHO INCLINES HIMSELF TO BE A BEMBA FROM CHINSALI SUPPORTED BUT US BEMBAS NEVER RECIPROCATE THIS GESTURE HENCE TONGAS THINK U JUST WANT T USE THEM AS PONS
Who is he trying to kid when he says “The other government should continued on where Kaundas govermnet left” when he was part of the governement that did not want any reminder of anything that had to do with KK’s government .Why did he not say it at the time?
The issue of reinstataing the unruly students at CBU cannot go without passing. My goodness how can he condone such behaviour where innocent people were harrassed and had thier cars stoned in the name of protesting against MMD.Its such a disappointment that who ever committed a crime as long as it was aginst MMD they will not get the necessary punishment.i.e Judge Ngoma the thug
Zambia is for all Zambians! HH is supposed to be respected. If what Sata has done in appointments was done by HH, you could have seen what the comments would have been. The PF public relations wing _Post could have had a field day on HH. Let the others talk just as you support wrongs by sata let them also talk against them. Democracy!
I have always tried to understand the tribal issue why it keep poping up on this site. One thing must be made clear PF is not Bemba ether is UPND Tonga. It is not all Bemba’s who did not vote for HH or is it true that all Tonga’s did not vote for Sata. Once a person is in plot 1 it simply means he is for all people. Politics unlike other sciences, it is a game of balancing issues, Sata at some point he will need to select a balance cabinet. This was the case with Banda and we all compained about this so he lost our vortes. Now it is the turn for Ba Sata he should not take this route it is not healthy for unity of a nation and people. Pls when blogging we need to be responsible and committe in such a manner too. Bemba or Tonga we are all Zambian period.
Sata is still campaigning…!!! Please remind this old man that he need to perform otherwise, he will be history. why do you talk of former President Banda..? just perform Mr. president..!!
Good call on starting to perform more functions within the country and not out sourcing where we can create a local solution. We are kept out of the loop so to speak in so many areas – for example try and set up an engineering company and manufacture our own models of mining equipment and see how quickly that will get squashed.
People we have bigger things to worry about than tribes. We are people first, genders second – tribe, ethnicity (race) and divisive categories have no bearing except in maintaining culture and respecting traditions of others.
Many like me are fractions of tribes and my parents raised us with two phrases – you are not a tribe but respect all tribes and be the best person you can be. Never give up your Zambian passport and have a Zambia room wherever you are.
Good afternoon
Very optimistic words from our president and I’m sure he means it. A real patriot is one who puts his nation first. I have a feeling he will not let us down.
Nevertheless, words come easy, so let us keep our eyes open for the results. Sata’s government should show us better roads, education, jobs, health, power and water facilities. This is the only way to convince Zambians that they didn’t make the wrong choice by putting him in State House.
Until then, most of the bloggers will keep on exercising their poisonous tongues as we can see above. Others, like myself, would rather put their shoulders to the wheel – fiscally or phsyically. Zambia must prosper!
Zambians. Lets not be economical with truth Sata with his PF govt. is dominated by BEMBA which is a clear FACT. This is acknowledged by those who argue against this fact and present childish evidence of Dr Guy Scott to demonstrate PF having a national character. Typical of BEMBA deception known by every non Bemba Zambian. Lets not burry our heads in the sand SATA has to be taken to task over this aspect of his govt. You can’t even compare with KK. Again typical of BEMBAs even when KK was president, they accused him of being Malawian or Easterner when things did not go their way. All this confirms SATA is a TRIBALIST. He will correct this or we will not stop pointing this error no matter what it takes.
Now we have a president with Zambians at hear. Fuel reduced, Mealie Meal Reduced, Salaries increased,,…. and more… This in less than 3 weeks!! What a waste of the past 20yrs! We left the country to be destroyed by Movement for MASSIVE Destruction.
It was thanks giving for wat God had done for us through the just ended elections,for the conflict free elections and a smooth transition of government which we had.the ten political players were supozd to b in full support of this,they were supozd to atleast show up and do a thanks giving with the rest,and thats how God blesses,check the bible and read that it was ten lepers wu were healed but only one came bak to giv thanks,I mean apart from Sata I only saw Elias Chipimo.but I thought its all of u ten candidates wu kept us in question of wat was to come.regardles of your religious tags this was important to attend,by the way i saw muslims in there,they came because it was for a good cause. i mean,its just unbelievable why certain pipo tend to be political everytym and evrywhere.
Wisdom with your usual eloquence Nina Chale. Spot on.
Apologies I mean Nine Chale ;)
Thank you, friend. I appreciate.
Spot on …Printing mere ballot papers abroad was just wrong, best the government relaxes duty on Sophisticated commercial printing machinery now to encourage local businessmen/ printers to import or upgrade machinery.
Good move Mr president…i hope also you will give us the National Arline soon
( Zambia Airways )..:) i know you can Mr president, you are a true nationalist..revamp NCZ in kafue and the fruits factory in mongu,, livingstone motor assembly,,mwinilunga pineapple plant etc
Yes Don braco of 67 Zambia airways was one the many companies sold off by a corrupt Minister.and money pocketed. One should seriously look at the viability of a national airline as its very possible. Kaunda international Airport should be given to a serious investor to make it a HUB airport of Southern Africa due to its location and the very fact that South Africa is failing to Attract more airlines due to its high charges and incompetance. KK airport should with immidiate effect reduce passenger duty to 50 us dollars as it will attract more jobs and creat emany jobs
I understand the frustration that many Tonga people are facing. But if you look at events carefully you realise that this under-representation is partly their fault. Why do they bunch up in one single tribal party and expect people to vote for them. They definitely have a powerful vote but they misplaced it. For example if most of them had voted for MMD, MMD would have won the last elections. My advice would be for them to join the winning team PF and get the representation they need. Sata should try as much as possible too to attend to this concern because he is a national leader, even for those people who did not vote for him.
Its very ironic that our Tonga brothers and sisters are the first to cry foul about tribalism and nepotism in the Sata Government yet the whole of Tongaland voted for one party on the basis of tribe. Scroll through social network political forums on Facebook like very politically active The Zambian Peoples PACT, it will be our colleagues with Tonga names moaning and crying.
Move on guys get over with it next time vote smarter and know what time it is outside Southern Province.
TONGAZ SUPPORTED KA CHILUBA 100%,THEY SUPPORTED KK WHO INCLINES AS A BEMBA FROM CHINSALI, BUT US BEMBAS HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED CANDIDATES FROM SOUTHERN PROVINCE HH OR EVEN MAZOKA WHO WAS 100 TIMES BETTER THAN SATA, MAZOKA GOT 0.1% IN LP,NP& CB, SO WHO IS MORE TRIBAL HERE? YOUR GUESS IS AS GOOD AS MINE, ITS THIS LACK OF RECIPROCAL GESTURES WHICH HAVE MADE TONGAS TO STAND UP AGAINST THIS TRIBE WHO THINK ARE MORE ZAMBIAN THAN THE OTHER 71 TRIBES, FTJ’S CABINET WAS 98% BEMBA DESPITE SP VOTING FOR HIM, WE ARE SEEING THE SAME NEPOTISM IN SATA, THE POST HAVE A MOUNTAIN OF DOCUMENTED FACTS ABOUNT SATA’S GENETICAL TRIBALISM
I STAND BY WORD AND I DONT NEED TO APOLOGISE TO ANYONE, LET US NOT USE OTHER TRIBES AS PONS TO WIN THE GAME, ZAMBIA BELONGS TO ALL THE 72 TRIBES AND WE ALL NEED TO HAVE A SHARE OF THE COUNTRY CAKE, ANY WAY IAM NOT GOING TO BE BANCHED INTO THIS PF EUPHORIA, EXCITEMENT AND POLITICAL ORGASM, THESE ARE THE SAME MMD THUGS WHO BROUGHT US INTO THIS MESS NOW IN A SHEEP’S SKIN I WILL JUDGE THEM ON 24TH DECEMBER, WE WERE EXCITED WHEN KA FTJ CAME INTO POWER BUT AFTER A DECADE WHAT DID WE SEE DISASTER, SO ALL I CAN SAY IS LETS SUPPORT THIS TRIBALISTIC GRZ AND WE WILL JUDGE THEM AFTER 23RD DECEMBER 2011
MMD Chief Bootlicker and Mr. Capitalist welcome to the PF boat. I did not expect you guys to be fair in your analysis. This either shows that you have put pettiness aside or Njala ya minyokola already.
Ba Mushota. Ye you are Mushota Chimfwembe of Mpika where your grandmother lives. What happened to the name you were supposed to adopt from your white boyfriend?
@abene kitwe, no wonder your town is regarded as a town for kaponyas your language speaks for it self. As for those that are so defensive towards Sata I forgive them they may have been born after the failed 3rd term attempt and dishing out of brown envelopes by the H.E who at the time embraced corruption wholeheartedly. When did he repent? I missed have missed that
You people forget about tribalism it’s not a factor in Zambia lets forge ahead to develop our country by supporting the new republican president. Time for other political parties to rule will come only one person at a time in state house. The issue of insulting each other basing on tribe lines will not change anything in our nation Tongas, Bembas and others tribes are all Zambians. So you chaps stop victimising tongas lets work together.
Forget about tribalism you will never develop this great nation with tribalism. This is time to work together no fighting is needed Tongas are human beings just like Bembas. Respect to one another is the most needed thing. 2016 another political party will emerge victorious however this will depend on the performance of the PF Government, more money into people’s pockets, lower taxes, job creation to mention but a few if these are done then PF will emerge victorious in 2016 without any doubt. If the opposite happens it will be history just like MMD.
OCTOPUS PAUL BWALYA @ 70 & 71 Your bitterness towards Our president and anything bemba seems to blind, as you put Zambia is for all 72 tribes so for now and the next 3 terms PF ni boma till, 2021HH will have matured to be an OAP. My tonga brother you cannot go on insulting people as bemba fools, we too have feelings sir. forget this tribal rubbish and get on with the program, let us get together and develop our country. You need to dump your mwana wa chisi rubbish and embrace our 1 zambia 1 nation, failure to do will keep you in political limbo forever because all non-tongas are watching you. You insulted RB and now you insulting HE Sata, calling us kaponya bembas. When you are ready mate
@ CHIBWANTU MABISI…CALLING US KAPONYA BEMBAS, sorry why are you hiding in that tonga name then, well iam not bitter about SATA or PF iam not just about the NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM WE ARE SEEING, WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC, YOU CANT MANAGE TO ATTAIN ALL THE FAKE PROMISES MADE BY PF, TO DATE WE KNOW NO ONE HAS RECEIVED MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS, SO IF SOMEONE IS SHOWING DICTATORIAL AND TRIBALISM WHEN WE CAUTION THEM ITS NOT THAT WE ARE BITTER ITS JUST THAT WE LOVE HIM AND WE WANT HIM TO DO THE BEST, LOOK AT THE PROTEST GOING, PRODUCTION IS AT STAKE AND REPO EFFECT WILL BE INFLATION, THIS GOVERNMENT NEEDS AMPLE TIME, WE KNOW SATA DOESNT LIKE SOUTHERNERS THAT ONE IS A KNOWN FACT. WE PRAY FOR GOD TO GIVE HIM WISDOM AND WE WILL JUDGE HIM BY HIS ECONOMICAL MAGIC AFTER 90DAYS.
I agree with el presidente. How can a nation have its ballot papers be printed in another country? Come on, where is our pride? I cannot wait to see MADE IN ZAMBIA once again. MMD really killed the Zambian spirit by depending on so-called investors. At least we now have our country back.
#7 (Zambia one two) nichikili. Wabe noko. Bawiso ubwingi. How dare you insult us you f.ool. I wish I can lay my hands on you and skin you alive. Anyone who knows this foo.l, give me his details here. I end here!
Ballot papers to be printed in Zambia next elections. That is great Mr President. Impot those machines and train people to use them. No need to go to South Africa for ballot papers. Next no medical expenses by the government for treatment in South Africa. Next create jobs by making finished products from our minerals like copper and export. Jobs created and Income will be realised. That is my 2 ngwee input today.
@ CHIBWANTU MABISI…CALLING US KAPONYA BEMBAS, sorry why are you hiding in that tonga name then, well iam not bitter about SATA or PF iam not just about the NEPOTISM AND TRIBALISM WE ARE SEEING, WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC, YOU CANT MANAGE TO ATTAIN ALL THE FAKE PROMISES MADE BY PF, TO DATE WE KNOW NO ONE HAS RECEIVED MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS, SO IF SOMEONE IS SHOWING DICTATORIAL AND TRIBALISM WHEN WE CAUTION THEM ITS NOT THAT WE ARE BITTER ITS JUST THAT WE LOVE HIM AND WE WANT HIM TO DO THE BEST, LOOK AT THE PROTEST GOING, PRODUCTION IS AT STAKE AND REPO EFFECT WILL BE INFLATION, THIS GOVERNMENT NEEDS AMPLE TIME, WE KNOW SATA DOESNT LIKE SOUTHERNERS THAT ONE IS A KNOWN FACT. WE PRAY FOR GOD TO GIVE HIM WISDOM AND WE WILL JUDGE HIM BY HIS ECONOMICAL MAGIC AFTER 90DAYS.
and y do u call yourself Bwalya?
# 18I refuse to drink sata Cool Aid! amano ubunono! Don’t you know that UNDP pulled out of the pact and the people who steered the party are the ones who were appointed? Do you want us to include U5 and others who voted for other people? Grow up!
TRIBALIST LEADERS HAVE TO BE REJECTED IN ZAMBIA. ZAMBIANS ARE ABOVE THIS ANCIENT PRIACTICE OF PRIMITIVE THINKING. HOW CAN A PRESIDENT OF THE WHOLE COUNTRY BELIEVE THAT ONE REGION OF ZAMBIA HAS TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP TO OUR COUNTRY. WE THE ZAMBIANS REJECT THIS DEFECTIVE CONCEPT AND WILL SOON EMBARK ON A NATIONWIDE CAMPAIGN TO SENSITISE EVERY CITIZEN ON THIS ISSUE. ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION IS OUR MOTTO. WE ARE LOBBYING LOCAL AND FOREIGN ELECTRONIC MEDIA TO SPEARHEAD THIS CAMPAIGN. YES WE CAN CHANGE THIS MIND SET AND LIBERLATE OURSELVES FROM TRIBALISTS.
This tribal nonsense is just booooorrrrrriiiiinnnnnggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Us tongas should stop being oversensitive about MCS’s appointments. Thats the worst kind of tribalism. Did we not without shame say that a tonga had to take over from Mazoka?? Now we are reaping the fruits. Zambians have never forgiven UPND and Tongas for that.
UPND start rebranding, get rid of my own uncle HH and try to resell on a different platform.
People do not allow yourselves to be used by politics. This weekend I am attending a wedding where a Bemba and a Tonga are coming together. I am sure it will be a happy moment. Let love be the word. Yes, we need to balance things once one wins and campaigning is over. It is time to put more cash in pockets. Both PF and UPND or other parties respect yourselves and be peaceful on this site.