By Prince Litia Litia
Simple but Realistic
Zambia’s fifth republican President His Excellence Mr Michael Chilufya Sata deserves a pat on the back for his gesture of overwhelming benevolence for appointing this able commission of inquiry to look into the matter of the Barotseland Agreement of 1964 and indeed the disturbances that occurred in Mongu/Limulunga on 14th January 2011.
INTRODUCTION:
The events of January 14, 2011should not be viewed as an isolated occurrence on that particular day or indeed over the months around that day. It must be understood from the background of the systematic negligence by successive regimes in Zambia to tackle the issues surrounding the Barotseland Agreement of 1964. It must also be understood that as long as the Barotseland Agreement shall continue to be neglected and ignored by the powers that be in Zambia issues like the Mongu Fracas shall continue to threaten the peace and security of this Nation.
This commission is therefore challenged to consider its mandate seriously so as to once and for all propose viable solutions to issues surrounding the Barotseland Agreement 1964. I say this with the hind knowledge that Commissions have come and gone without really making an impact over the issue irrespective of the vigorous participation of the Barotse people in such commissions pleading with the powers that be to resolve the impasse of the Barotseland Agreement 1964 ie Mvunga, Mwanakatwe and Mung’omba Commissions.
THE UNITARY STATUS OF ZAMBIA
Zambia became a unitary state in 1964 thanks to the Barotseland Agreement 1964 which paved way for Barotseland with the rest of Northern Rhodesia to proceed to Independency as one country and its peoples as one nation. It is often said that Barotseland or Western Province as the oppressors prefer to call it is an integral part of Zambia. The intention of this statement is usually to imply that Barotseland is just like any other province which is definitely not the case. The Barotseland Agreement 1964 had to be signed, simply because Barotseland was not just another province and unless we get to understand that basic fact we will never get the answer right to the Barotseland Agreement 1964 issue.
ABROGATION
The unilateral abrogation of the Barotseland Agreement 1964 in October 1969 by the Kaunda led regime clearly means that Barotseland is free to stand alone as a fully autonomous Monarch (Constitutional Monarch for that matter). According to the Vienna convention on the Law of Treaties if one part of an agreement breaches the terms of the treaty that breach sets the other party free of any obligations under the treaty.
SECESSION
Barotse self-determination activists are often referred to as secessionist in order to intentionally and maliciously victimize them. In truth the word secession does not apply in as far as the issue of Barotseland is concerned. In my humble understanding to secede is to subdivide a single object into more than one unit. A unitary state to me means a combination of more than one ‘state’ to make a unit. When two parts are glued together, depending on how tough the ‘tuff Stuff’ used is, there is always a chance of the two parts falling apart like Chinua Achebe seems to suggest by the title of one of his novels ‘Things Fall Apart’. If indeed the term secession does apply in this case, then it is the government of Zambia which is guilty of secession and has ceded Barotseland from the rest of Zambia by way of the unilateral abrogation of the unity treaty, Barotseland Agreement 1964.
CHANGE OF NAME
In the same year that the Barotseland Agreement 1964 was abrogated the then president of Zambia also invoked his power to change the name of Barotseland to Western Province without consultation with the Barotse people or Authorities. To the people of Barotseland the name ‘Western Province’ is a slave name. That is what slave owners used to do upon acquiring a new slave they would give that slave a new name like it or not. In similar style after KK broke the unity treaty Barotseland came under servitude to Zambian Authorities so he gave his new slave a new name! We resist the slave name with all the contempt it deserves and discard it henceforth. After all Barotseland is not a province but a sister state with the rest of Zambia!
CONCLUSION
There is only one remedy to this ailment, let Barotseland go so that it does not have anyone else to blame for the underdevelopment, unemployment and poverty that is so prevalent. This demand is not new, strange or unique. Just like when marriages fail there is separation and finally divorce. In the same way when unions between states fail they breakup. USSR, Yugoslavia, Eretria, and most recently Southern Sudan are just a few examples. In any case Barotseland will be a good neighbor to Zambia (or whatever that county would be called after Barotseland is not part of it) like it would be to all its other neighbours.
May I thank this honourable commission and each of you commissioners for listening to my simple but realistic submissions, I presume.
“or whatever that county would be called after Barotseland is not part of it”
Just this last remark killed off whatever good this article was intended for.What stupi.d pride!
Too bad you hate facts. Grow up…
Uyoye mwan’a mulena.
To hell with this separation. One Zambia, One Nation.
Barotse people are not part of the global change and if they think they will develop by breaking away, they must be calling for more poverty on their land. By the way, lozis women are cute
yes mwana they are sweet too
These are people who are too lazy to have second names, how are you going to rule yourselves Litia Litia Prince who?
The author failed to elaborate how exactly KK abrogated the agreement. He hasn’t clarified whether Barotseland was just Western province or includes southern, north west, copperbelt, central, parts of Angola, caprivi, parts of Botswana and Zimbabwe at the time of signing the agreement.
this is useless article to hell with u Lozis so greedy chaps I will never marry a Lozi chap
Just let Barotse go Zambia will still remain Zambia why are we holding on to them. Let them go and develop the Lozi land, as they say that they have oil and gold so let them develop and enjoy themselves. Yes ma Lozi get what is rightfully yours don’t settle for anything less.
Zambian government is just wasting time building the Mongu Kalabo road, just let them go the Lozi are difficult people who will never settle for anything less than freedom of the Barotseland. Go Lozis go
The building of this road was stop by the PF govt. It is the only road in the country that has been stopped by the tribal PF govt. If you new the relationship between cause and effect you would understand why some Lozis are calling for self determination. But then you are just too daft!
these guys should remember that population always increases and there will be a time when they will need expansion and this will lead to many conflicts moreover barotseland the so called has extended even in the Congo area,,and some other parts,, we honestly do no want cheap conflicts that will be detrimental to our peaceful Zambia….Zambia is for all, it just shows our selfish and greedy some people are we have enjoyed peace for 47 yrs now lets not bring useless conflicts in the nation, We have already tested the effects of this.agreement or no agreement Zambia is for all and KK so it fit to give the name western province so that the country can remain united after independence,, so what is wrong with keeping peace. stop being greedy for Christ’s sake
Our land is ful of sand why not let us go. we are nt interested in zambia anymore
Give them their freedom, up to where western province ends period, not the dream their have of CB province and Southern.
The Barotse Agreement is about the area that was known as Barotseland and in 1969 Kaunda changed it to Western Province. Please desist from creating your own stories. Are you the type of person who can start an argument in an empty room? What is so difficult to understand about Litia’s article? Is your comprehension so pathetic that you fail to understand an article as short as Litia’s? Go back to school man!
Yesterday i was reading the full Barotseland agreement signed on 18 april 1964.It focuses on ceding to Zambia and its people enjoying the full rights of Zambia but retain certain control over land and other issues but that clearly contradicts the Zambian constitution.The B.A also states that all questions on the B.A will be answered by the Zambian high court not a commission.The B.A is not reversible as long as Zambia exists.Infact it endorses the creation of Zambia and its birth.Lets not mislead people.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
all tribes that feel marginalised should side with the lozi .
Yeh, so that u can live a lavish lifestyle at the expense of The people that u rule.No way this will happen as situation on the ground of that king in ,Is it Swasiland and its God forsaken poor people are going through hell.
monarky os on its way out,u r outdated on this one.Democracy , good governance yes.
Wantanshi you are right about the geographical position of the so called baroseland. with this in mind i dont see how workable this breakaway can be as this involves the govenments of zim, botswana,angola and namibia and not forgeting the chiefdoms in parts of southern,c/belt, central and n/western provinces.
Stop lying. The 1964 Barotse Agreement specifically refers to the place now called Western Province. Western Province was known as Barotseland. Kaunda renamed Barotseland as Western Province in 1969. So please dont bring spurious and manufactured lies about the issue. You are a very dull person bereft of any decency. You dont have to lie to score points. It speaks to your poor upbringing! Lying through your rotten teeth like Sata!
we don’t need monarch states in the world today……. one Zambia one Nation……… that’s whats up!!!!
Hyperbole! Ati “the opressors”? Come on now!
Prince whatever, Malabishi, go to and get a decent job.
A lot of people on this thread should have a go at becoming novelists! They are so good at creating stories. Barotseland is what is today called Western Province. It is very st.upid and dishonest 4 some people on this thread to create stories about the Copperbelt, Caprivi, Botswana or Zimbabwe. You are just being silly! The Barotse document (Agreement) which Kaunda, Mwanawina and Duncan Sands signed was specifically for Western Province which was then known as Barotseland. So please stop your dishonesty! It is very stu.pid of you!
The article at first made a bit of sense, but the real nonsense in the conclusion. It is useless and a chasing after the wind. Dear Mr prince, find something to occupy you, you are in dreamland.
Bullsh!t. Even in the so called barotseland(which is also a “slave name”), there are people who dont want the so called independence. Pure cr@p
ITS TRUE WESTERN PROVINCE IS UNIQUE…ITS YOU GUYS THAT ASKED THE BRITISH FOR COLONISATION!!! “YOU AREN’T GOING ANYWHERE, BUT RIGHT HERE!”
Eureka! Let these so called secessionists first negotiate with the angola, zimbabwe, namibia and botswana governments to give them the parts of those countries they claim to belong to barotseland, then we can follow suit. Otherwise, its one zambia one nation!
Bo Litia ,keep on dreaming dude.Wake up and smell the coffee.It is chaps like you that have had contributed to the underdevelopment you see in your province.What sucks about the whole thing is that only a few selfish individuals with personal interests like you are loud about the whole thing(remember the saying baout empty tins).We only have one zambia and one Zambia including western province it shall remain.
Looks like my mbuya sata will face the hadest test of being apresidental, he is going to miss the dayz he was a civillian. Lozi are good at black magic they will turn him into a Pig,,,.,,.,
lets be united just like USA in. USA there are small, small state that make the USA and luk hw developed they are we can common guyz lets unite.
@23 Mo Taim Stop being an as.s! People in Western Province have been asking for the construction of tarred roads but various govts have not delivered. Stop blaming the victims! It seems some of you have thieving and lying in your DNA. You are just like your president. Full of lies. Who the heck builds roads in your province? The reason why they are asking to go alone is because their region has not in any way benefitted from your stu.pid ‘one Zambia One Nation’. Ask your tribal PF govt why the only road they have put a stop to is in Western Province? Stinking Mambala!
Easy mwana….hold your fire.Insulting my being and intelligence is not the way to go.It is characters like you that makes Zambia look like a sick nation.Next time try to be analytical before you put you filthy fingers on the keypad.Internet access has indeed turned most of you chaps into as.s ho.les.Bola panshi…one Zambia one nation is the way to go.
Well i don`t blame you.I blame whoever introduced you to internet.Internet has turned most of you chaps into as.s h.oles.It is never too late to change your mentality to that of being analytical and not rushing to hurl insults.One Zambia one nation is the way to go.
You are very sick, and from the way you express yourself, you want to blame others for your own problems. It is people like you who cause underdevelopment of western province. You seem to have no plan in life and think things come on a silver plate. *****!
It is sentiments like this that have hoodwinked the larger Lozi populance!!
First, such sentiments have led to underdevelopment in WP because even private investors have been chased away because they are perceived as foreigners.
Secondly, such sentiments have made Lozis want nothing to do with anyone that is not Lozi, what a shame.
Thirdly, when people cannot see beyond tribal lines (educated or not educated), everything is either Lozi or not Lozi and this limits our thinking in terms of development and finding solutions to our problems – it is easy to blame anything that isnt working on non-Lozis because life is either Lozi or not Lozi!!
Fourth and this is a fact, I personally know that these guys advocating for this are bent on greed and malice.
Good points.
Thats not to say that there are no genuine people advocating for this of course. Truth is, the people that stand to benefit from this are few and others are just following blindly. Good luck but please search your motives before plunging into a deep dark dungeon. I rest my case
If at all it were possible to debate this without either side feeling insulted or rejected then one would actually have a unique insight in to why other tribes were duped with a few words and yet a more extensive document was needed for BA. At time of independence the territory known as Zambia had several unresolved border disputes. Even a basic geography book in the 70’s told you which ones. Add Congo to the list of those mentioned already. BA is an incovenient truth and will get kicked down into the future to be another generation’s problem to solve. Insulting each other is pointless, fake tribalism and shows selective ignorance. Keep the BA debate in the open and calm down. Zambian peace is preferable and so is tolerance. We do not have to agree with each other.
Prince Litia Litia, I do agree with you that the agreement should be restored forthwith, because it has never been implemented. Where I do not agree is where you say the province should separate from Zambia. Nevertheless, if the agreement issues are not resolved, as in any case where two parties do not agree, their should be an agreed way forward to resolve the issue either torugh arbitration, or indeed negotiations. But yet I agree with you that the agreement be restored, and I think that is what we have heard from government in the recent speak in parliament by Hon Nathaniel Mubukwanu. Perhaps the concern here is that government have not spoken clealry on the steps being taken to restore the agreement and the timetable to that.
I would the suggest that Dr Kaunda should be summoned and let him give a detailed information according to what he knows he is the last person alive to day who signed that document , we need his explanation on this issue .
Idont understand why we keep on coming back to same issue as if all who where there that time are all dead why cant we ask Kaunda to tell everything needed to be done but not separeting off course.dividing zambia forget it mbuya.
Why can’t the PF restore the BA64 as promised during the campaigns?
Just let them free. Honestly there is nothing that they have gained from the entity called Zambia. Zambia is a joke that has been and is been run by muppets. I have not seen anyone who has given reasons why it is advantageous for Barotseland to belong to Zambia. What have past Zambian govts done 4 Barotseland? Nada!
And you think the province will develop. Stop wasting your time and grow up boy. This is a real world we live in, not the stupidity you are expressing. From the BA64 itself, secession does not make sense.
I don’t know…………………………………………………………………
I smell monkeys urinating everywhere and causing their usual mischief with unbridled hate for other peoples except them – monkeys. Who invited these monkeys to the debate? Yeah, Lozi have a right to self determination and the ball is in their court not the monkeys. It is simple, the sand barotseland is for lozis. Underdelopment does not worry visonaries. Monkeys are lazy and wanna ride on other peoples backs. sorry, not lozis.
Your name????Which god?When you insult The Almighty’s creaation as monkeys you insult His creatures.
lozis needs metal to metal for them to stop the rubbish talks
Litia Litia, you seem to be in possession of more information regarding the BRA. However, you withold information as if hiding some unknown terms of the agreement. What was the pre existence status of Baloseland in relation to the Federarion of Rhodesia and Nyasaland? I believe at that stage KK was not leader of Zambia as she was non exist. How did the colonial master look and regarded this province in relation to delimitation within the coming of the new sovereign state of Zambia. What terms were in the agreement in which you inorm us that there were two indipendent teritories “one Zambia another Baloseland”. This being the concept you enspouse implies Baloseland would not have been part of Zambia. I suggest and put it to you that Baloseland was just under the colonial rule as any other
part of Zambia and to claim that an abroagation occurred is a pipe dream of your imagination tha we are hearing for the fisrt time. Where have you been ever since KK cesead as head of state. Full disclosure of information you are witholding is crutial and failure to do so will mean that you are seeking afresh not to be part of Zambia. On the other hand your quest in this issue will make you pepetually remain as slaves to Zambia as you prefer to call yourselves.
The Problem is that we understand ‘Restore’ of an agreement in a different way. For us at state house, we only restore that which has been damaged or lost its original form. We agree that the agreement lost its orignal form and we shall restore it. But does restore mean secession? No! Because with secession it means u have no interest in being togehter. but if we restore which is what all lozis are saying then we continue as one zambia one nation. Its sad and infact stupity by some people to think that when PF said we shall restore they meant we shall separate. In simple words all we said is that we shall perform and rule barotse as the 1964 agreement.
If u guys are intelligent then u would have said u want to breach the agreement so that we can beatu death now
There is nothing Kaunda can explain because that piece of paper not a document clearly says all questions on the B.A will be handled by a future Zambian high court.The B.A establishes Zambia as a future state which it is now.Can it be reversed?I dont think so.Any one with a problem can go to the high court of Zambia not Angola,Namibia or Zimbabwe.In my view Kaunda is hero because he outsmarted the Barotse people.We owe Zambia to him and many of his smart coleagues.If we reverse the B.A then we go back to Northern Rhodesia of which still Barotseland was a party.This becomes complex. Hence only the high court of Zambia can answer these questions.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
Whether one is Lozi, Tonga, Suthu, Phedi, Xhosa, Swati, Bunda, Kasai, Ibo, Dinka etc, such labelling are totally besides the point as ALL humans are entitled to their oppinions regarding any matter on this planet. Insults and demeaning are completely uncalled for and unneccessary, worse still, to even insult their father/mother (living or departed). I am happy my Lozi brethren ( a wonderful tribe for that) have been given a chance to freely express their feelings. Good luck to bo ndate! Mpezeni is human and does error, but he is still my chief!!
All bloger go to google or wikipedia and search for Barotseland agreement of 1964 and also the history of Zambia. You will find all the data.Dont be misled by people who know nothing like litia litia.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
As usual this issue always invokes strong sentiments to the left and right. A lot of talk about peace and one Zambia one nation and in some comments looking beyond tribal lines; in reality this is all nonsense!
The truth is we Zambians have been accepting mediocrity, greed, poverty, tribalism and declining moral standards for a long time! Most of the bloggers are not even in Zed, having chosen to make to make a life elsewhere because you cannot see a future in Zed for you and your families? So as soon as local chaps stand-up and point out obvious injustices, some of you shout foul??? I don’t get it?
Sorry i meant all bloggers not all bloger.
SEPARATION IS NOT JUST ABOUT BENEFITS BUT ALSO ABOUT BURDENS. THOSE WHO ADVOCATE FOR SECESSION OF BAROTSELAND SHOULD TELL US IF THEY ARE ALSO READY TO SHOULDER THEIR PART OF THE BURDEN OF ZAMBIA’S DOMESTIC AND EXTERNAL DEBT WHICH WAS A RESULT OF MONEY BORROWED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WHOLE OF ZAMBIA. WHAT ABOUT LOZIS THAT HAVE FOUND A HOME IN THE REST OF ZAMBIA? ARE WE GOING TO FORCIBLY REPATRIATE THEM BACK TO BAROSTSELAND? WHAT ABOUT NON-LOZIS WHO HAVE FOUND A HOME IN BAROTSELAND? ARE THEY GOING TO BE FORCED OUT OF THAT REGION EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE INTERMARRIED WITH LOZIS?
So my challenge is, try and understand the Barotse issue, why has KK and succesors carefully guraded this “secret”, what do they know that YOU and I should not know? Why does this issue invoke strong sentiments and threaten to divide our nation? Let’s use these bloggs to share information, the truth is out there. In my opinion Zambians are intelligent people who can propose solutions and can handle a good debate. We need to rise above insults, gossip and kitchen politics and comment intelligently on national issues! It’s about time that we stopped being used by the same untrustworthy politicians that have been running our country for 46 years?
So, is it just a coincidence that Barotseland became independent at the same time as Northern Rhodesia? Or it is because the two regions worked together as one before independence.Â
I think it is arrogant for westerners to want to break away, in the name of broken agreement, after we (northern rhodesia) helped them break free from British protectorate.
yes an idol god created lozis and God created Zambia. We shall never give any part of our country to you, if you think western province is a slave name, then u are the zambian slaves
zambians for once get serious and avoid insults if you are devoid of any constructive contribution. ffor sstarters  Kk iis aaround  and hhe oought tto nne ggiving  guidance  to tthis v ccountry . wwhy iis hhe mmute? is it because of his treacherous behavior ?Â
MK
KK is in trouble. once the barotseland goes, he will be stateless. he is not even a citizen of northern rhodesia. he is a zambian today because of the combination of barotseland and northern rhodesia. other wise, him, deniss liwewe, and may chaps will have to search for their mother land. thats why they fight hard to keep barotseland
just googled infomation on BA64… so this BA64 actually includes my province northwestern from my moms side and central from my fathers side..i do not know how this will work but as royalt from north wesyern i have new for this litia that i will defend my land tooth an dnail
Litia you dunderhead, you say western Province is a slave name? Don’t you know that Barotseland is a slave name? Have you ever heard of any tribe called Rotse anywhere? And you say Barotseland is a sister state to Zambia failing to recognise that it was not even equal to Northern Rhodesia but a part of NR. If you want a fight, you should start with the British who gave you the slave name Barotseland.
Hunger ba fikamba.devolt yoselves to something else.day dreaming MASIPA?////////?????
Utter rubbish. This writer still believes in subjugation and feudal rule. Last I checked, the whole world was once ruled by monarchs but the world woke up. Man made kings, princes, slaves etc, one one is born a subject and so far as honoring colonial agrmts, why honor a fraud of imperialists that included c/belt as part of barotseland? Why did the british not explore barotseland for minerals but instead ended up on the copperbelt? They used Lewanika to claim he ruled over the c/belt so they could keep the Belgians out. Its the so called royal families to benefit from this mayhelm than the impoverished people of shan’gombo. We all special people and provinces, I know most lozi’s don’t agree with this nonsense, were in medieval times.
Utter rubbish. This writer still believes in subjugation and feudal rule. Last I checked, the whole world was once ruled by monarchs but the world woke up. Man made kings, princes, slaves etc, No one is born a subject and so far as honoring colonial agrmts, why honor a fraud of imperialists that included c/belt as part of barotseland? Why did the british not explore barotseland for minerals but instead ended up on the copperbelt? They used Lewanika to claim he ruled over the c/belt so they could keep the Belgians out. Its the so called royal families to benefit from this mayhelm than the impoverished people of shan’gombo. We all special people and provinces, I know most lozi’s don’t agree with this nonsense, were not in medieval times.
Good evening
I continue to doubt whether there is any good to recognise or honor any demands of self-determination from any tribe in Zambia.
What tickles my sentiments in the lecture at hand is how this Prince Litia manipulatively uses the word “simple” to diminish the complexity of the case in an attempt to persuade the commission that there should be no difficulty at all in accepting his submissons.
His submission should be accepted but not his suggestions.
I have learnt something bane, in my efforts to screw-up Banda i have realised i am ending up with lots of mistakes. The ‘lexus’ with my wife being exposed as its new driver, the ‘gold’ will lead to Zed wasting a lot of money through Buzianu claims, now this , I hope does not led to the country being split into 2 by the end of my term in office.
I reckon rather than attempting to rewrite history we have an opportunity to make things better for all.
@ Ricky Bobby – it might be of interest to you to note Barotseland was autonomous even when so called Northern Rhodesia, Southern Rhodesia and Malawi were a federation. Your sentiment is probably shared by others but innacurate. Those wishing to ‘divide and conquer’ recorded their exploits quite openly. Times have moved on but the uniqueness of BA remains how much recorded history dating back to the 1800’s is available. I wish it wasn’t so emotive an issue for there is a lot that can be learned and we miss it coz we get heated up by words of others.
u fool
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I see! So Saddam Hussein copied the idea of annexing Kuwait as the 18th province of Iraq from his friend and brother Kenneth Kaunda!
KK should be called to give an account to the commission. We need to know what exactly transpired.
Now, coming to the author. Is this the Litia whose father was a senior civil servant in Kaunda’s government (District Secretary)? Did his father later became the Litunga after Mbikusita Godwin?
For the sake of peace and other tribes in Western Province, its better to retain the status quo because Lozis are likely to victimise the Nkoyas.
Lozis 4get the BA and agitate for development in your area. I don’t agree with the author that Western rovince is a slave name it is actually the author who wants to enslave others, this is not time for monarchs but for democracy complete emancipation of the people everyone should be given a chance to rule. We luv lozis and they are part of Zambia that is the status quo
Am sorry to say that I have never met a shallow minded zambian like BANTUSTAN FOR LIFE above. Argument that are aggressively self-centered, will never benefit the Lozi’s. All these guys advocating for BA are just hungry people who are ready to trample on the rights of uneducated masses.
Though an advocate of one zambia one nation, I will pray that they go and we see what becomes of BA. They will need a passport to come and buy bread in Lusaka.Â
Dream on brothers,one zambia one nation.i dont know all thd details of this agrment,the stand out points i know are thAt the lozi are trying to take copper from zambia by taking there potion of the copperbelt,how will zed survive.
foolish people wont understand ba 64
Its amaziht ng that people who stand up for their rights are always persecuted by the majority people like Mandela and recently Micheal Sata. Amazing…… until they are time proves them right.
Labelling of a people exercising their God given rights as tribalists is a scheme hatched long ago to have Zambia dominated by a certain region. Ask KK. He knows this very well, and he resigned over it “The Night Without a President”. People from other regions asking for a stake in the Governance of the country are labelled Bantustan or Tribalists. See how a young leader from a known region is being sold as an apparent heir to MCS. The Barotse people (my Nkoya matriarchs included) have been cowered for too long. Now it’s over. It’s either BA 64 is restored to allow the Barotse to determine their own destiny and development agenda, or, failing that, secession together with regions that feel can do better with Barotseland than with Zambia.
Doubting Thomases should study the Yugoslavia, USSR and even the Sudan situations. Read the writing on the wall or go the Nebuchadnezzar way.
But abantu bamo fipuba which other part of zambia is developed if the reason u want to secede is underdevelopment. Go to Kasama or Mpika or even Nyimba and see who people live there. No difference with Barotse. Barsotse agreement was a colonial thing which shd not be used to divide zambia.Â
This is STUPIDITY AT ITS BEST, but you will find retarded people like BANTUSTAN FOR LIFE commenting all kinds of rubbish. You have got a small brain, take your ideas to chainama hospital may be they will understand you.
Coming to think of it, let these people go, they are just problems for us and a burden too, but we need to see what boarders they are talking about. Cut them off and build a wall, just like in Palestine, and start shooting any one crossing into Zambia.
Time will tell we shall never die as second class citizen of Zambia just like our forefathers.When Geoge Khalim Disym said in 1963 that one day Southern Sudan shall be free like birds of Universe Arabs shot and laughed it off but 48 years later Southern Sudan is a country.We the Lozi speakers we ve made alot of progress in sending our brothers abroad to study gorilla warfare come 2013 which will make the beginning of separation from Zambia.We shall wage war to break from Zambia under Vienna convention.Shall see if you will continue insulting as that is what you are good at and stealing Barotseland shall be free like birds of universe.
rabbish
Time will tell we shall never die as second class citizens of Zambia just like our forefathers.When Geoge Khalim Disym said in 1963 that one day Southern Sudan shall be free like birds of Universe Arabs shot him and laughed i offt-just the way you bembas are doing- but 48 years later Southern Sudan is a Country.We the Lozi speakers we ve made alot of progress in sending our brothers abroad to study gorilla warfare come 2013 which will make the beginning of separation from Zambia.We shall wage war to break from Zambia under Vienna convention.Shall see if you will continue insulting as that is what you are good at and stealing. Barotseland shall be free like birds of universe mark my words.
Prince Litia, you have stated your case to the commission very well. But the issue of slavery cannot end at the Bulozi being enslaved only. The Nkoya and Luvale people whom the Lozis look down upon do not want to be part of Barotseland. Prince Litia, do you intend to impose your jurisidiction over these two ethinic groups or you will allow them to break away as they have always expressed? They have their own chiefs and areas which you want to take over by force. Surely what is good for the goose should be good for the gander as well. As you seek to establish the Kingdom of Barotseland, let the people go, i.e.the Nkoyas and Luvales.
Uyoye Mwana Mulena. At last we can say we are not alone in this fight. I’ll sleep peacefully today, knowing that our royal leadership is on board and clearly resolute about what needs to happen. I cannot wait to return home, for the betterment of Barotseland. Long live the Litunga, Long Live Barotseland.
what royalt stupid *****
I cant wait brothers and sisters to see Barotseland free. We shall fight to last of our blood. Y do you want us to be part of your country. Nkoyas and whatever, we have no problem with them, ki bana baluna. Bulozi bwaluna ni sizo saluna.
We are just gaining support from our Sotho, Swanas, Namibia, Angola, Zimbabwe and Lesotho brothers and sisters otherwise WAPYA MUNZI guys.” No shall ever rule Zed” Thats true, how can we rule yo Zed, ours is Barotseland banee. MUYOYANGE BANA BA POHO YENSU.
Sata and Membe parroted the BA64. pLEASE BA SATA, HONOR YOUR PROMISES, NOW THAT THE LOZI’S VOTED FOR YOU.
GUYS LET THERE BE PEACE,WE ARE ONE ITS ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.LETS STOP ALL THE ARGUMENTS AND FIGHTINGS.LETS LOVE EACH OTHER AND RESPECT REACH OTHER.