MINISTER of Home Affairs Kennedy Sakeni says 14 and not 30 pupils at Limulunga High School in Western Province were reported to have been impregnated by police officers who were deployed to quell the January 2011 Mongu riots.
The officers, some of whom were blamed for the brutality unleashed on Mongu residents during the disturbances, used the school as a campsite during their operations.
In an interview yesterday, Mr Sakeni said the initial report that 30 pupils were impregnated was mere speculation.
“Of course you cannot rule out mischief when you have a large number of uniformed officers on operations. Such incidents are common and even in UN (United Nations) peacekeeping missions you hear of such stories. As far as I am concerned the number that was given was rather exaggerated,” Mr Sakeni said.
He said after reporting the matter to authorities in Mongu, the girls’ families have not made any follow-ups with the police.
“This has made it difficult for the police to investigate and bring culprits to book,” Mr Sakeni said.
He said immorality has to be fought across all walks of life and not only in the police service and other law enforcement agencies.
Mr Sakeni advised the affected families to follow up the cases provided they have credible evidence.
He, however, said the police service did not record cases of sexual offences such as rape or defilement by police officers during the Mongu disturbances that were ignited by the controversy surrounding the Barotseland Agreement of 1964.
“If it was through consent that the girls got pregnant then it is between them and the officers and it has nothing to do with the institution (Zambia Police Service),” the minister said.
On Friday, Luena member of Parliament Mulumemui Imenda of the Alliance for Democracy and Development asked Vice President Guy Scott whether Government is aware that some of the officers have impregnated 30 pupils at the school.
Meanwhile, KANYANTA KATONGO reports that Non-Governmental Organisations Coordinating Council chairperson Beatrice Grillo says all well-meaning Zambians must condemn the officers’ act to prey on girls because such acts destroy the moral fibre of society.
Ms Grillo said it is shameful for law enforcement officers to impregnate such a number of girls at the same school.
She said police officers are there to protect people’s lives and property and not to be law- breakers.
She said officers should promote and uphold the country’s cultural values.
[Zambia Daily Mail]
Its not about the numbers Mr. minister. The question you need to answer is; were the sexual acts consensual?
Only 14? Surely Sir that is 14 too many and a man in your position should be highlighting that rather than treating these officers of the law as a bunch of errant school boys! Things like this SHOULD NOT happen. Why compare Zed to war torn regions where international peace keepers or armies rape the populace. This should simply be condemned, dealt with and put measures in place to prevent a repetition.
Condemned? They should be jailed.What they did is rape and it should be refered to as such.
One is too many. For a country to be classed as developing, so must your moral and ethical responsibility develop. Families not going forward to lodge a complaint shows fear of reprisals from the same people who are supposed to protect them. Thats not developing thats quite the opposite. If it was his daughter that got pregnant would he hold a different view.
Is it just me, or this bali resembles “Zinjanthropus”, just saying! Look, the issue here is not whether those randy cops impregnated 15, 30 or even 1 girl. These police officers possibly abused minors and that in itself is a criminal offense. So it’s laughable that this neanderthal can try and justify this nonsense. I’d also like to know which genius came up with this ‘brilliant idea’ of allowing all those blokes to lodge at a girls school???
The govt should take full responsibility of this happening and raising up the kids up to the time they will mature into responsible citizens..
PF is boring, starting frm its ministers
Bwana minister you sound comfortable and proud of the pregnancies. I just wish one of the girls was your daughter or sister – carrying a baby whose father she could never tell or even see. Your calibre of thinking is shallow and this is evidence why some of us said the calibre of leadership in PF is not adequate to run the affairs of the nation. For all we know some of the girls may have been raped and indeed most of them under age. And what does the minister say for that? It is not a problem? No grain of morals let alone leadership!!!
….. My sentiments exactly..well said Balanced view. Such are the questions our journalists should be asking the minister.
Certainly it is not about numbers but about the transgression of the law. Okay, if 14 were impregnated, how many were abused butdid not get pregnant? I doubt there was consent and all i see is sex under duress, defilement and rape. Who put the police at a girls high school honestly! Would you honorable minister react the same if your daughter was a victim at the same school? I think you can do better than trivialize the matter at hand.
This buffoon!!!Who is supposed to make the follow-ups,the victim or the police?Wait it happens to your daughters.Take responsibility.What a grave crime by a government against its citizens.Had the MP not questioned,this information would have been kept hidden from the public.Peacefull country!!!S.u.c.k
Dull blacks! Then you want condemn homosexuals on the pretext of being a Christian Nation, my foot!
Damn ! Now this is serious.That is almost half of the pupils.Time the law took its course.
One is enough to take action,there is no excuse about it.But i just have little question-where were all the parents to these girls doing whilst this was going on?
The fact is those officers defiled those innocent school children…whether its 14 or 30 or 100 the fact remains the same those officers defiled the girls..Am sure the names of those officers are there for records..take them their and am sure those girls will identify some or most of them..
Mr. Sakeni needs to be sacken, oh sorry, sucked or just resign for reason of imcompetence. Ignorance yalichilamo baminister. He is NOT fit to be a leader. The number of the gilrs ABUSED was extremely under estimated. The truth may lie in the hundreds while only about 30 (no sane person will accept the revised figure) were impregnanted. Listen to this man give excuses in support of government criminals. This is n was abuse of office (non-monetary) by civil servants on government duty. Baminister, please don’t sweep this under the carpet. No way. These excuses amount to irresponsibility…Wee mwebantu mwe! Thank God Southern Province youths didn’t go out n protest when Sata recently sent his army over there. Otherswise this is exactly what would have happened. Cry my beloved country.
Abused iyakwisa.. it was sangwapo / sex bonanza for the little sluts. Tumaule fye utu notunyo utwanunka.
Were they forced or not?
The problem with these girls nowdays is that the word no is not in their vocabularly.
If you know that you are a school going child why not say know so that if you are forced it become s a rape case, simple.
In as far as am concerned this is a civil case and as the minister puts it, let it be solved btn the parents and the officers involved. Am sure the girls never forgot to collect the phone numbers, otherwise it is going to be difficult.
On a positive note, this is not a bad move at all, for the sake of development.
Baroste land might be a new nation ( in one dream) in need of population increase for the much needed labour as they buld infrastructure.
Bing Pipe, Not Zinjanthropas BUT broken hill man, somewhere there, a slightly improved version. Well, Pippa, this is s boarding school and the Police officers were put there. The pupils could have been threatened of being beaten by police officers. Parents could not come in as they may not have been told.
Sad sad reading from there. May God intervene
I can confidently submit that the entire school was raped. Taking in consideration others were at the time they could not fall pregnant. What a scandal for the minister to think and let alone say it happens even with UN deployments. Mind you the UN doesn’t have it’s own army/police it’s buffoons like these that tarnish the well-meant missions. Instead of bringing peace, these *****s subject the small girls to worse pain. Justice is needed and heads should roll starting with this dull minister. Maybe ba Sata can jump at another opportunity to make a cabinet reshuffle.
Disgraceful for the Minister of Home Affairs to even justify the rape of 1 underage school girl let alone 14. Even justifying the in-disciplined Police men by stating “one cannot rule out mischief ..even UN it happens” Well we are not UN and we are talking about known Policemen that was dispatched to Mongu and therefore, must be investigated and if found wanting prosecuted.
In the vocabulary of present day girls the word no does not exist.
Even when you know that you are school going you can’t say no.
And when did impregnanting someone above sixteen years who consents to sex became a crime? This is a civil case, let it be sorted out by the parents and the imprignanters. The fact that the parents haven’t even reported to the police, may comfirm that they need grandchildren. My word of advice is that parents please, let us sit our children down and explain to them the dangers of sex in young age and worse still when at School. To the police officers, I would like to look at you as Men and not police officers, In this case, my advise is that let us try as adults to have good morals, be role models and not bad examples to the upcoming men ( boys).
Mr. Sucken-him-please appears to be blaming the families of the victims. Please, ba minister it is your duty to take all the measures necessary to see that every abused girl and her family find justice on this matter. Remember it is a known number of police officers that were sent there from specific barracks n these are facts on record. So find them. And you must put measures in place to help those families bring their cases forward n see to it that none of them is threatened by anyone. DNA testing would also help to confirm those cases. Why should we the citizens start living in fear of our own security service that is meant for our protection–we n our children.
Biased and un professional report giving wrong data and recommendations which do not have the interests of the nation at heart! What do you expect coming from a lawyer connected to the Litunga establishment? No wonder HE MCS and Kabimba trushed the report as soon as they laid their eyes on it.
As for girls, very unfortunate, the Headteacher should also be held accountable. Sakeni is right parents to make follow-ups with responsible cops and bring them to justice with evidence for sleeping with minors!
U r a fecking id!ot, you twat.
myweeeeeee, only 14 and you are happy about it get to work sir tax payers money going 2 waste here
Just look at his face! How can one justify a total wrong eh? Sakeni ali dabwa ayi? What is wrong with you home affairs minister? how can you say ‘not 30 were raped only 14’.. like its an achievement? You’re crazy! Come on be the man and discipline these goons you call Zambia police.. fyachilamo ala! I have a feeling he’s a goon himself.. *****s!!!!!!!
Honorable Minister??? Sorry I don’t agree with you. These Police should have ethics, All Culprits should be fired. Police should protect our citizens than this nonsense. Some of these men are married therefore these girls will have no future. Ubuchende Pa ZED Instead of protecting pupils they are busy making babies
if zs pourous gvt dznt tek action on zz foolz zn z whole mongu shud stand en tek 2 z streets.fibalozi ukushishita.zy gv u fake promises,kill yo pipo,imprison u,fu¿ yo kids freely en ur jst lukn.riot.
Ba MCS .. its time DNA facilities were introduced in Zed and start getting the skills to go along with it.. what are you waiting for eh? Abana bachula mwe!
These PF chaps like this Sakeni thing are lunatics and mad. So they think 14 is a small number after all and want to justify that its ok to impregnate 14 school girls. To me even if it meant only one girl its all stupid and rubbish. What a disgusting government full of illiterates. And they want those girls to end up like them with no brains at all. This PF government is boring I tell you. Ba Barotse Province you had it coming you thought these chaps would give you freedom and voted enmasse for these Kaponyas-sorry. I end here!
But kwaliba ifipuba pa chalo. Ne fipuba filakula chaisa ba na chi Minister.
Nothing worth the news!Its just pure immorality and of which only the truth will set us free.GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
…and a chap with this kind of brain is a Minister in PF government! What a circus!
With a Minister who thinks like this, no wonder the cops can do whatever nonsense they feel like. Such irresponsible adults entrusted to enforce the law in the country; How can they?
sucken so ugly
Yaba, we are really going backwards as a nation. But with clowns like this one for a Minister, what can we expect? Its incredible that this drivel and defense of what has happened can come from a Minister!! But then, it should not come as a surprise in that the man at the top chose like minds to cabinet. Shame on you PF government! You can not continue to make mistakes and expect us to continue supporting you. You must demonstrate able leadership if you are going to command our respect as nationals. And leadership includes how you discharge authority in crises, near crises and issues of concern to the citizens.
This man has NO SHAME!!!!!! He has the audacity to say that its only 14 and not 30.He is defending and justifying crimes committed by the police. This is not the way to handle such a serious matter.Imagine if it was your daughters that were impregnanat?? Also we are all aware of the rate at which AIDS is spreading in our country its not just about pregnancy what he those officers are HIV positive.
we are now just using witchcraft to eliminate all those HIV infected cops.we will wipe out all their families.The wife and children of this full must also be hinted down and raped.what a full of a so called minister.your ass hople baboon.
this minister should resign. what a shame!! its not about numbers… and why compare how ‘common’ it is with UN missions – what a justification you immoral.. !!!
Customer: Excuse me waiter? There is a dead fly in my tea!
Waiter: dont worry, it will not be part of the bill.
Thats what Sakeni is saying
HIV, HIV, HIV then AIDS. Some girls might have been defiled since they are less than 16 as those in Grade 12 are usually around 17. Minister should be more serious as these are serious offences. When will we have a culture of owning up. Be serious PF, too much of Ukwa.
to me..these guys are taking it so casual..its ok to them ka..?this is a serious crime..!
You cant say ONLY 14. What is the “only” doing in that statement? Telling us that we should not worry its not a disaster? It is! One person raped is one person too many! Get these nuts out of the police stations!!
FIRST OF ALL – how do you decide to camp police officers in a school??? Wasn’t there other places they could have been taken. These are the sort of incidents that continue to give people the ammunition to be anti-Zambia in western province. There is plenty of land in Mongu, there are police camps, there is the airport, there is the central police Station grounds, there is the stadium. But of all places you decide to place them in school dormitories where school girls are also sleeping. Somebody has to be responsible for this. No doubt this issue will escalate the tensions in Barotseland. To be honest, each day that passes now leaves me wondering where Zambia is headed. Both Sata in Lusaka and the BRE in Mongu have to show unprecedented leadership on this matter otherwise civil strife!
Kennedy Sakeni is an i.d.i.o.t – and I wish he reads this. Just look at his head and face. KENNEDY SAKENI is so ugly that he makes HE Michael Sata look like Will Smith!!
ha ha ha couldn’t have said it better. Lol.
I find his utterances very insulting …….only 14 ………no rape was reported? how could they report rape to the same institution which sent the same people who raped them???
This man is very dull…..honourable my foot
30 could have been the approximate figure of those who were done only to end up with 14 pregnant.
The question that remains is; how many were infected with HIV?
The minister has said that parents should make up follow ups over the issue cause no rape cases, defilements were recorded that time, the issues of pregnances at this point in time will be taken as civil.
I know that I need to cry very hard ( as in I dont know whether to laugh or cry). I was speaking to one of my relatives living in Zed yesterday who is the only person I have heard lament at the frightful incompetence of the new government. This is beyond atrocious to think this man is actually a minister in the government, possibly a father is laughable if it were not so freaking annoying, sad and I have no more words. Where do they get off even being in public never mind in government.
Mediocre African leadership at its best!!
if a minister can play down defilement and abuse of authority which happened when he was not in office, how much mediocrity should we expect from him? the officers in question must be arrested and prosecuted.
What? This is the response from the minister? Ati only 14 were knocked up, and not 30? What kind of mediocrity is this? Ati ba Minister of Home Affairs! Scandalous.
its very sad,ba sempya imwe ,you are supposed to protect pipo from this nosense,nimwe mwachita ifyakutumpa ifi/in fact most of you are H.i.V carriers.now imagine how many pipo u are killing,the law should deal with you .nemwe mwefibafyashi mwitina.see that those fools are brought to book.nafimipaila abana, filwele fyonsefye.
the police were forcing themselves into peoples houses dragging our some girls.all those girls were raped by these gun carrying police rapists.Each of those girls was raped and most were threatened to be shot should thay reveal their rape ordeals at the hands of armed police men.rape and tourture were the order of the day.More than 200 girls were raped and now we are just talking of theose who are pregnant.what about those who were raped and are not pregnant.Most of these policemen are HIV carrying people.they have killed our young sisters while carrying guns given to them by government.It pains.Some of these girls have brothers in police,it will not be long before we hear police killing fellow police to avenge for the rape of their sister.when it gets out of hand that will be cons b girlo
DNA Testing would be the way to go although pa ZED they tend to produce more controversies … imagine out of Sakeni’s 14 only to discover 13 by teachers and 1 inconclusive!!!
I am yet to meet a normal person in this Govt. How can you say 14 instead of 30. You do not know that is a crime against humanity. and ICC-HAGUE is callimg
thez 2 much HIV n the police service n i arge the authority to take the entire school 4 HIV testing,the whole school has bn infested,what a shame.
The number iz of no consequencez Sakeni, the gist of the matter iz that the officerz acted irresponsibly without even considering the dizeazez aspect of defiling the girlz. Conduct DNA tests on all police officerz involved and whoever iz found wanting must face the due process of the law.
Makes very sad and sick reading LT. “Only 14!!” Like he is talking about loaves of bread! These are young lives wrecked forever with bastards that might never know their horny fathers who were on national duty, pulling down those knickers and depositing genetic material of sorts including kaswende and HIV!
“Shamuuuna! Shame!” The words of a great man called Chona. MHSRIP.
whats so is just looking at his face, u can see that he is not taking the issue serious!!!!!!!!!
The quality of Pathetic Fascist Ministers is atrocious. Sakeni must be pea-brained to say “only” 14. In fact, noe even one girl should have been impregnated by these Bemba cops. If the families of the girls have already filed complaints, surely it is for the Police Force to follow up. This id!otic Sakeni is stonewalling and insulting people’s intelligence. How old were the girls? If they are minors, then there can be no consent to sex. This so-called Minister should surely know that. But I suppose his lying govt does not care for facts and the truth.
What the legal age for a gal child. This to me sounds like tgey are still minors and the issue of consensual is not valid point. Its is criminal! This suck-en is just incompetent and useless. Follow up?! How about conducting DNA or paternal tests?
This minister sucks!!! He is not fit to hold that office. Most of the PF ministers do not deserve the title “Honourable”. Instead the title should be substituted with the word “Kaponya”.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LEVEL OF THINKING TO OUR EDUCATED COLLEGUES IN ZAMBIA IS TOO SHALLOW.NOWANDER YOU ARE NOT TAKEN SERIOUS EACH TIME YOU DEBATE ON NATIONAL ISSUES.FIRSTLY,THAT INCIDENT TOOK PLACE B4 PF WAS ELECTED INTO POWER AND THE HOME AFFAIR MINISTER WAS MKONDO LUNGU NOT SAKENI.IF PF TRIES TO FOLLOW UP SUCH CASES THEN YOU START CRYING FOR WITCH-HUNT THATS WHY SAKENI IS NOT BOTHERED.
@facts-facts You re right if really those girls were raped,defiled by police officers parents would have reported sometime back.So frm january 14 up to date what were u waiting for?Am sure the Minister is right.
Am just from reading the comments,can someone help me please!When was this incident took place?and why now is it bcoz there is too much freedom of information in this govern than the previous govern or what?Or the PF govern should be condemned in whatever went wrong for the past 20yrs.Its like people are still bitter about PF victory,bane there is nothing that lasts forever.Lets be serious.
Its like all those writers are the children of whom RB was crying for that they will loose employment.
Is this a boarding school or what? Where were the parents/teachers/ adults who should have been looking after these children? Honestly for such a large number of children being pregnant, where were the adults who should have been taking care of these children? If even 14 children went in the forest to pick amasuku, wouldnt an adult be aware about their whereabouts? Whoever was in charge of these children should also be brought to book for negligence. A sa nation we should start asking ourselves about how well we are protecting our chldren from predators. This is just a tip of an iceberg.
HOW DARE HE SAYS ONLY 14 WERE IMPREGNATED AND HOW DARE HE SAYS IT HAPPENS EVEN IN THE UN??????
IMBECILE!!
i think he also one of them, he pregnant he becomes happi, fools.
reading some of these insults to the minister leaves me wondering if politics is likened to a beauty contest. Read SAKENI’s STATEMENT AGAIN, my little foreign language i know tells me is not supporting this EVIL ACT from the police. He clarified the number of impregnanted girls and he his urging the parents to formally complain. There should be a complainant for even govt to act. mind you no one is guilt until proved so. where do you start from desciplining the offers without any complaint though they are wrong,they can even take you to the courts of law for defamation of charecter. The govt need help from these girls and their parents to solve this problem. Now coming back to the school authority and the PTA how the HELL you put the rats in the container containing g/nuts? TOO RISKY
ladies and gentlemen, let us be so analytical and not too emotional, the issue at hand is so serious and it needs the serious attention it deserves to be sorted out. Sakani is human and not an island he can get your good views on how to sort out this matter and not the insults. I can imagin you people insulting being ministers, you would have insulted the police for doing this and the school authority for allowing officers to camp there and also insulting their parents for not impating good morals in their childred, LETS BE OBJECTIVE WHEN DEBATING such sensitive and sad issues. I rest my case