Justice Minister Wynter Kabimba has charged that some elite and educated Zambians want to hijack the constitution making process.
Mr Kabimba said the PF Government will not allow a small group of elite Zambians to drive and influence the process of enacting a new constitution.He said President Sata’s administration was voted in by poor Zambians from places such as Kanyama and Chibolya who should have a say on how the process should be handled.
Mr Kabimba who is also PF Secretary General was speaking Sunday evening on ZNBC TV on a live programme called Sunday Interview.
“The constitution will not be decided by a small group of educated Zambians who use Chizungu (English) in social clubs because they are people who vilified Mr Michael Sata. They mocked the man and never attended his rallies, I was there myself and I never saw these type of Zambians who now want to hijack the process,” he said.
Mr Kabimba added, “The people that voted for Michael Sata don’t even speak Chizungu. They live in Kanyama and when we speak to them they tell us that they want development first, they want roads, better health care and good education.”
He said the PF administration will not abdicate its role of delivering development to all parts of the country.
“Our manifesto has 28 programmes and the constitution happens to be just one of them. We will go and ask the people what their priorities were but we will not leave the poor behind because they are the ones that gave us the mandate.”
The Justice Minister also revealed that Government has not yet met to discuss the draft constitution.
“We are yet to meet. Government has got rules and regulations on how it operates. I cannot be disclosing everything to the press because you cannot run government through the press. We are still on course with the constitution and the public will be briefed at an appropriate time,” Mr Kabimba said.
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Kabimba said government has not yet met to discuss the draft constitution.
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He also revealed that he will soon be organising a meeting with some key stakeholders on the constitution making process drawn from the civil society to get consensus on some of the issues regarding the process.
The Justice Minister also explained that the ongoing Justice and Legal Reforms are not in conflict with the constitution making process.
“We are the only Government in the history of this country that wants to comprehensively reform our legal and justice system and I believe this process does not conflict with the constitution making process, if anything these two processes are complimentary,” he said.
On the issue of MPs salary demands, Mr Kabimba said the MP’s demands can be justified because they go through a lot of suffering when visiting their constituencies especially for rural based areas.
“I was listening to the former Minister of Foreign Affairs and Information and Broadcasting Vernon Mwaanga on Radio Phoenix the other day and he said there was really nothing wrong with MPs demanding for better remuneration but maybe the timing was not okey and I agree with him.”
Mr Kabimba however stated that both the PF Central Committee and the PF cabinet are yet to meet to discuss the new salary demands by MPs.
“If we want our MPs to deliver and work efficiently then we must be ready to answer questions around their remuneration. I have travelled to rural parts of this country and I have seen how MPs struggle,” he said.
And Mr Kabimba who is also President of the Council of African Political Parties has called for a cease fire and an end to the conflict in Gaza.
“What is happening in Gaza today is very sad. Not only for the people of Gaza but for the international community. To see 1,300 plus lives most of them children and women die in a conflict like that cannot be justified by anybody in the 21st century.
It is high time that the international community took a stand to bring the two parties to a cease fire, to bring the two sides to the negotiating table so that what is happening in Gaza table does not repeat itself.”
Yaba! What level of dull is this that our illiterate Justice minister is exhibiting. First of all the constitution has nothing to do with PF but Zambia. We need proper laws that will govern the country for years to come no matter which party is in power. Secondly you are likely to get better results and see Zambia shine on the world stage with educated Zambians.Thirdly the people who voted Sata may not know Chizungu but all those parliamentary proceedings and laws are written in Chizungu and thus those with an understanding of the language are in a better position to interpret the meaning and implications.Fourthly not everyone from compounds is as ignorant as you and not everyone of them voted PF.
That “you cannot run government through the press” acclaims Mr Kabimba, meanwhile it is exactly what Mr Sata doing, running the country on social media, especially Facebook. I therefore remind the justice minister to deliver the message to H.E. M.C. Sata not only to run the country through the press.
How can the un-educated make a sound judgment of what a constitution that can stand out the best of time be? You need education centers for that, otherwise give the illiterate development and on the other side, give the educated ones the constitution period.
How long will PF run away from its own shadow of 90 days?
my comment `hahahahahaahahaha!` where are uneducated PF cadres on this blogger,,,,, like uneducated mushota,,,hahahahahaah! its not me saying but kabimba
who is the tall huge guy thats always with kabimba?
It is said that love other people. But honestly speaking, I have tried to love Kabimba but I have failed. I just hate this man. I am not sorry and I will not apologise for this.
I AM NOT A FAN OF KABIMBA BUT ON THIS ISSUE HE IS RIGHT. A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE LET TO CHAMPION THE CONSTITUTION-MAKING. IF THE ELITE CHAMPION, IT WILL ONLY REFLECT THEIR PETTY BOURGEOIS WISHES WHICH DO NOT AFFECT THE MAJORITY OF ZAMBIA.
Educated fleas do it!
Demagoguery indeed! Can somebody stitch this man’s mouth.
THIS WITCH, IS BETTER TO KEEP QUIET……
Kabimba’s comments gives an insight into how PF came up with a 90 day delivery of the Constitution. Basically, PF tailored they message to those who, in their world, do not use English as a means of communication. To them these people are gullible and will take any lie. Sorry Mr Kabimba, why have you abandoned the process at the 11th hour? You are now full of bull. Those people you are refering to, treat you as god’s, unfortunately the educated that you are villifying now know their rights and know how long its taken other countries in the region to come up with such a document. Ask any of those from the cited areas if they have any country they can compare against and now these are the people Kabimba claims to be representing. Bwana you have run out of excuses.
The uneducated voted with their bellies and the elite voted with their brains. That’s the reason why Zambia is in such a mess now.
This so called Justice Minister is so ST.UPID of-course you want to take advantage of the uneducated Zambians? We are here to protect the uneducated and be a voice for them. Come 2016 we will Explain to the Villagers your tricks and perception about them. This is the worst dullness displayed at government level. PF ministers are not normal.
@ Peter
Who has given him mandate to speak on behalf of the “people”?
@Ndobo: So Saulosi is uneducated, says Kabimba. Saulosi voted for PF.
So even Kambwili who voted for PF is uneducated too. But Kabimba alitumpa.
@Nostradamus
shuwa,,,,, its kabimba saying,,,,,, in others words these uneduated PF cadres and discipiles want animal driven constitution not people driven constitution wanted by us educated zambians
Hihihihihihi! This sums it up all……imagine them laughing at both the so called “Educated and uneducated behind closed doors?”Jack A$$$$$ Reloaded! Bloggers read between the line this statement!
LISTEN…..HEAR THIS….
ALL governments on earth spend money, large amounts of money on TWO SECTORS…EDUCATION & HEALTH. Reason(s)??
1. An educated nation is a health nation.
2. An educated nation is an advanced nation.
3. A health nation scores high in health
WE CANNOT PRAISE ILITERACY. THE UNDEDUCATED LOOK TO THE EADUCATED FOR SOLUTIONS!!!! PLEASE, STOP MR KABIMBA’S INTENTIONS
Some people have misinterpreted Hon. Kabimba’s statement in regards to educated and uneducated Zambians. Give your friends chance to rule as they were mandated by Zambians.
What I have observed is that if the opposition were patient enough and avoided sending provocative remarks to the PF leadership and ask the Government in an orderly manner on the way forward with the New Constitution, I am sure their grievances would have been met. But they want to force matters and be seen by the general public as champions of the constitution. Is the constitution the only development they think about?
There is just too much hatred of PF leaders by the opposition. God doesn’t allow and like that. That’s why I can see PF bouncing back in power in 2016. And it will be good for Zambia. Thank you.
Is this for real? The most insulting statement I have ever heard to come from a minister…uneducated means not being in the ‘know’ therefore why should they have a say?
May be the ones deemed not to be in the “know” should not be allowed to vote so as to protect them against vultures like yourselves sir! The cat has finally been let out of the bag. Waiting for my friend Saulosi and Mushota to comment…. I just love these two…. waiting patiently.
He said it. I watched interview and it was a very mediocre performance by Bragger-in-Chief. Young Grevazio Zulu handled the interview well and was probably the star of the evening.
Ladies and gentlemen….. may I have your attention please. Let us have quiet please. Kabimba is right.. you know what they say about a picture? it says a million words! Look closely at the PF cadres in the picture. They are clueless and look very uneducated right? Can you visualise the likes of Mushota and Saulosi in this pic – I can. Look closely to the right of Kabimba, Mushota is the one in a chitenge dress and long ill-fitting so called Brazilian hair and Saulosi is just above in a cut-out jumper with a kaki shirt.
This picture is revealing too much….why is Kabimba and this big guy holding hands? Do they swing on both sides?
Sport on bwana! Nothing to add nothing to subtract!
Cry, the beloved country!
Please Mr Kabimba the villagers and unlearned you refer to are unfortunately unaware of global trends let alone their own entitlements.Deal with the opposing learned ones at a level platform you can dope them.Its wont be easy i should say..wishing you well.
He knows that there the only ones PF can manage to cheat and not the minority educated.
lol, saying it as it is, hahahahaha
What nonsense is this?
This is the man who wants to be president ? I shudder to think a nation lead by him!
Come on Kabimba, just because you cannot speak “good” English does not mean that those who do are bad people. Accept your limitations in life and do not blame other people (who did not attend rallies, my foot) for your shortcomings. You must be suffering from an inferiority complex.
The heat is becoming unbearable, 2016 is nearly here. Wynter Kabimba has realised that his political fortunes are going down the sloppy drain. Release our people driven constitution now!
It seems Kabimba is the only one who features on the so called Sunday interview, are there any other guests who are featured on this programme?
Kabimba is right. The Illiterates voted for PF out of ignorance. They were cheated; more money in their pockets, Barotse agreement will be reistated etc. The educated are now out to show the PF that they cheated the people and PF are in a panic mode. It is true PF CHEATED AND THEY SHOULD BE EXPOSED!
Don’t just condemn for the sake of condemning. Kabimba is right. Some people are trying to promote elitism in Zambia reducing poor people into mere spectators
You must be one of the uneducated muppets who voted for PF.
PF a party voted in by uneducated people who were easily conned. That’s why the voted in an uneducated president who can’t make intelligent speeches. We are in trouble guys, that is why democracy can’t thrive in a land where 90% are uneducated. They’ll end up voting for people like you Kabimba.
I thought he a mere appointee?
Say what! These are symptoms of Chronic Verbal Diarrhoering..
Where are various pseudo educated PF propagandist like Saulosi and Company to give “spin” to most outrageous and divisive statement from any politician in a history of modern society.
Until when the Great People of Zambia are going to tolerate such despicable, irresponsible, divisive and offensive comments from a person which after failing in his profession, been appointed and not elected at any level, now deem fit to proclaim that PF is a party representing “uneducated” against “educated”? Does this half-baked demagogue realize extent of his 1diocy or he may be preparing “uneducated” cadres to proclaim him as new Robespierre?
Us the masses don’t care what Kabimba thinks and wants. We don’t even care about the so called unprecedented development that the PF is preaching about. That is not our priority. We are the deciding factor and what we have decided is that we want our people driven constitution as number one priority and then all shall be given unto us without begging. Nothing else matters for us now until we have our constitution.
We need a medical Board to ascertain the mental health of our injustice minister!
He’s gotressure of speech, a wandering mind and each time he opens his mouth, he puts his foot in it!
Why are you leaving out the other medical board? We need 2 medical boards: one for Sata one for Kabimba
This man is NOT GOOD for Zambia, must go, will bring in more misery to the people of Zambia, he is just power hungry.
There must be a genius up there in Lusaka that can explain: No doubt that the real sticking point is clear, but not to the rest of us; but naturally pretty much so to Hon Kabimba. We have such a spongy constitution that that allows our President to sear-in Constitutional Post Holders in a suspended –state-of-animation: voiceless, motionless, supposedly perfectly normal by Zambian constitutional standards!
Well; what a Republic that we seem to have; when the rest of the civilized world have crystal clear Constitutions!
I did not know that MPs use their salaries for official visits to their constituencies…. Sad that people like Kabimba found their way into government, very sad indeed.
Hi did not find his way to Parliament.
Even “uneducated” refused to give him mandate. He was appointed!!!
ZNBC should make Sunday Interview a phone-in interview. This would make it possible for ordinary viewers like us to ask him questions the ZNBC are interviewers are scared of asking Kabimba.
Ba winter….And who decided and told the poor people that 90days the constitution will be ready
Every Zambian citizen is a stakeholder in the constitutional process at hand. PF have made themselves unpopular by being dismissive in conduct to the electorate who put them in power. Elitism was not at play when Zambians elected the current gov’t; rather foolish nostalgia which gave us a president without the so called elitist qualifications. The sad truth is PF has shown too much negativity to Zambians; corruption, violence, delaying constitutional process AND not handling president Sata’s illness and absence with the correct humbleness and duty required before his people. HOWEVER, Sunkutu is correct some Zambians are misguided in thinking being overly educated is a quality for president. Not so. A man of the people. A nationalist patriot. NON tribalism practioner(to coin a…
PF how on earth did you end up with this man as your secretary general. Please note that his titles are having ‘s’ and ‘g’ as small letters, because this man has reduced this position. How on earth can he call the people who voted for PF as uneducated and poor. Really, and one still is called a leader, only under PF clock can such be allowed.
We have Hon Kabimba as the issue behind the Peoples Driven Constitution.
What gives Hon Kabimba the divine right to keep the Draft Constitution on his desk waiting for our esteemed President Sata until he is gathered, in the Seventh Universe, with his ancestors?
Sorry guys you have all missed the point. Kabimba is simply trying to impress his boss, for obvious reasons. In addition, he cannot give a time frame because he gas no
…because in fact he has no powers to give a time line and programme for the constitution.
Why do grown Zambian men like holding hands? You even see them in Malls and the town centre holding hands and walking??
Kabimba is taking advantage of the poor people and the un educated people because he knows he cannot be questioned by these people.Its the PF party in opposition which promised the people the new constitution in 90 days.At no time did the PF said in their campaign that they would come up with a new constitution for the poor people only but all the Zambian people,the new constitution that would stand the test time.why shift the goal post now and say its only the elite who are demanding for the new constitution?In the face place when you knew that the new constitution was not a priority,why did you spend k150 million and later adandon it?The poor people who voted for you are the same people who shall remove you,so you must be careful what you say otherwise corruption cases are waiting for u
The only truth Kabimba has told is the fact that it is mostly the uneducated that voted for the muppets in the PF Government and that’s nothing to be proud of!
Mr Winter you tell me that only the uneducated who voted for PF.I am disappointed because i voted for you as well.Next time i will not vote for you as you have not appreciated my vote.
2016 HH.Its finished.
Zambians should stop listening to fools like wynter he does not It that the uneducated fools are the ones that **** it up for everyone else.
He must also understand that when power is entrusted with fools arrogance is the order of the day.He is Charles katongos walking stick.
Ignorance breeds ignorance. Why is it that Zambia continues to be blessed with such ignorant leaders like Kabimba?
@Benjamin;
There is no Boss in State House as of this second. What you have is a Ghost government! When all is said and done; you will have no foreign currency; but loaded with loans signed with ghost elect4ronic Presidential signatures
It is sad that a government official would use such words to describe his own constituents. Labeling them as uneducated. Our politicians need serious coaching in public relations.
the president should lick my bottom, aahh it tickles!
Ba Kabimba, Don’t be intimated by the so called “educated elite”. Just in case you didn’t know, education is the only means which facilitate integration of the younger generation into the logic of the present system and bring about conformity. It’s also the only medium which men and women deal critically and creatively with reality and discover how to participate in the transformation of their world. Nelson mandala once said, “Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.” It is shameful to see the PF government caring on the long history of preying on the vulnerable innocent illiterate. Please stop feeding off people’s ignorance
These divide and rule tactics by Mr. Kabimba will not work. These PF chaps dine and wine with Kaunda (KK) don’t they learn from the old man? Kaunda perfected One Zambia one Nation. Meaning he wanted to create a classless society, at least that was his ambition. But now here comes Kabimba and they see Zambia made up of the educated and uneducated, bembas and tongas, bazungus and banthus. Aren’t the educated Zambians just like the uneducated as Kabimba would want to make us believe. Does Kabimba really believe that Zambians are so dull that they cannot see through him? How come he has forgotten that he was writing speeches for Sata to tell the Zambians that he was going to deliver a constitution within 90 days? C’ mon man !
I am moules at the illitracy of our justice, or should Isay injustice minister kekekekekekeke next he will be saying there is no need of education in Zambia.
Arresting this man should be a very simple task when the next government takes over. Don’t even waste tax payers money to prolong the investigations. Who does he think he is? these mambalas should be made examples of. He has no shame to call himself justice minister wow!
It is good that PF knows that no one in their right mind would vote them into power …
That said, there cannot be sustainable accountable development in Zambia so long as the current constitution is in force. The current constitution effectively make the sitting president a dictator and vests all responsibilities on him. There can not be development if everything is dependent on just one man.
Power, responsibility and development needs to be spread to the people. That is how Zambia will develop.
This talk of: “decide whether you want development of a constitution”, can only be entertained by PF cadres, the uneducated as Kabimba puts it.
#OneZambia
The only thing is that Kabimba tells it as it is. The first was that Pf is a tribalisti party of Bembas, and now that Pf was voted in by illiterates. Bravo bravo for telling the truth!