Friday, March 29, 2024

Southern Province Chiefs endorse HH, he is a better candidate

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Senior Chief Mukuni of Kazungula District in Southern Province (left), his wife Victoria (middle)
Senior Chief Mukuni of Kazungula District in Southern Province
(left), his wife Victoria (middle)

CHIEFS in Southern Province have endorsed the candidature of UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema in the January 20 presidential election.

Speaking at a Press briefing at Golden Pillow Lodge in Monze yesterday, Chief Mukuni of Kazungula, who spoke on behalf of other chiefs, however, said the decision to endorse Mr Hichilema did not border on tribal lines.

Chief Mukuni said the decision was arrived at after scrutinising all presidential candidates and found that Mr Hichilema was capable of fostering national development.

“As chiefs from this province, we have reluctantly decided to follow suit and make our choice known among the presidential candidates, that we have endorsed HH who is a better candidate among the contenders,” he said.

He said the chiefs in the province would back Mr Hichilema, citing Chief Mpezeni in Eastern Province who has also backed Patriotic Front (PF) presidential candidate Edgar Lungu.

Chiefs felt that Mr Hichilema was a vibrant and capable presidential candidate to improve the living standards of all Zambians once elected as President.

He, however, warned that if Mr Hichilema would not improve the status of chiefs in the country if he was elected as Head of State, the traditional leaders in the province would de-campaign him in the 2016 general elections.

He alleged that chiefs had not been taken care of much by Government and now wanted a new type of leadership to take over national affairs.
In attendance at the occasion, were Chief Chikanta of Kalomo, Chief Singani of Choma, Chief Muchila of Namwala, Chief Simaamba of Siavonga and Chief Hamusonde of Mazabuka.

146 COMMENTS

  1. The complexity of this whole bye-election to opponents of President Edgar Chagwa Lungu is that its a Presidential focus and not tripartite race that involves splitting the effort on parliamentary and ward election of parties. PF like MMD has structures at national level. While MMD has all its structures realigning for EL or HH, PF remains solid and in exponential growth. UPND has its structures intact in its home ground of SP and WP with growing strength in NP and shared grip in Central and “maybe” Copperbelt rural. In Lusaka UPND will bump up but not to tumble PF. They consolidate with their support structures in Chawama’ Jack and John Howard Compound, Kanyama and parts of Chilanga but crash in Mutendele, Bauleni, Matero, Garden, Ng’ombe, Chipata, Kabanana/Chazanga, Chawama at large.

    • Sorry i mean with growing strength in NWP. EL mopping up votes and lock up the PF bases in NP, Luapula, Muchinga and the cosmopolitan constituencies of Lusaka, Central and Copperbelt. To his rallying is a decisive EP for the taking of EL. He will get a running away margin in Petauke Central, Sinda, Lumenzi, and Lundazi , with a seal in Mkaika, Chipangali, Chipata Central, Chama North and South as well as Lungwa. There are some serious underlying issues that locks HH out of any acceptance in this area. However, HH is also locking in his 85% run away margin in SP with a lead in Western and possibly NWP. This may move him up from his 18% margin to some 25% command in a defeat to EL.

    • Greetings to all Zambians,

      HH beats Edgar in a second opinion poll conducted by Muvi TV.

      HH got 82% while Edgar Lungu was languishing in the second position with only 16%.

      It is believed that HH will win the coming January 20 Presidential Elections with 37% while Edgar Muhammad Lungu will get 32%. It seems Edgar Lungu’s popularity has come down mainly because of the violence being perpetuated by Emmanuel Mwamba’s sponsored PF Panga Militias.

      May God bless Zambia and HH the Sixth Democratically Elected President of the Sovereign Republic of Zambia.

    • Environment determines structure. Some of these sectarian traits, interest and beliefs widely known as unZambian, cannot be changed with time or calls for a unitary state. They constitute the character of a people, its society and identity. They are more deeply ingrained in the culture, blood and personality. Concealing the motive is delusional and impractical. Too dangerous for a united Zambia. Imagine since they say PF is a Bemba party, all NP, Luapula and Muchinga provinces endorse PF candidate and all Eastern Chiefs endorse EL. Should the voting follow that thinking, Zambia will be divided if not ruled by the majority side for another 5o years. Sad precedence but real.

    • But of course HH, is a better candidate by far. Well educated, family man, successful businessman and well mannered. Edgar is uncouth, drunkard and a non repentant crook. He was debarred by LAZ for misappropriating clients’ monies. Vote HH

    • Pipos, do not make it a game of heaping insults on me. I am just extrapolating 2011 results into 2015 expected results. No malice and all the best to candidates to prove me wrong. A number of factors do change the forecasts and surveys. Barring any abnormal event between now and January 20, the following are expected results:
      EL is expected to garnish 1,550,000 votes while HH will get 980,790 votes. A word of caution though. Above results have taken into account a trend change of 30% in favour of HH and all votes of Mr. Chilupi going to HH. A further 20% shift will be a game changer. That will make HH a winner with 1,291,000 votes against EL’s 1,240,000.
      I am willing to share these and discuss what needs to be done to win last minute shift. Only EL and HH shall contact me, no middleman.

    • I mean HH has real challenges of bumping up his 18% vote which is 85% regional. It is almost impractical to make a miraculous bump that would give him the national winning margin. EL has very solid grounds of winning at national level based on some strong underlying issues. This means HH is headed for a 4 time defeat this time at the hand of a new entrant to Presidential politics.

      Be around to vindicate me at the end of the inauguration process that EL will be the 6th President of Zambia. This is why we are seeing all sorts of very unpatriotic accusations by UPND that the Defense, Rwandese and Burundese are being involved then false claims of ink and extra ballots all which are delusions. These are preludes or alibi of sore losers hoping for unconstitutional GNU.

    • #1.2 Chills, Defeat to EL means HH losing it to EL in this election. Unfortunately his 4th time. I suggest a day before the election or immediately after official ECZ closer of campaigns, lets debate how HH will fail again.
      In the same vein, endorsement by all SP chiefs is a nail in HH political coffin at the national constituency. Watch the dividend of regionalism this endorsement delivers.

    • Senior citizen’s analysis is up to date with what is obtaining on the ground. You may argue and rubbish his analysis but that will not change things. We arè remaining with few days to inaugurate our next president and those who are still living in denial will be very shocked including his royal highness Mukuni.

    • Chiefs should NOT be seen to to get involved in politics . This is one of the wrongs HH will try to fix as well. Previous governments including the PF have allowed this to go on for too long.

      Its time these Chiefs stopped taking partisan sides in the elections and publicly announcing their favourite candidates. This is what is currently wrong and divisive in our political system today.

      HH will issue a statement soon pledging to correct this illegality. Its illegal for chiefs to be seen to involve them selves in politics.

      Unlike PF , at least HH has never solicited any endorsement from the any chiefs. While Mpezeni openly sought advice from RB to endorse the candidate RB supported.

      HH has been publicly endorsed in E ,N and S provinces. This has happened beyond HH ‘s control.

    • To the contrary PF is on record forcing Chiefs to endorse it openly or else chiefs will either be de-gazetted or lose their benefits all together.

      Chitimukulu is one such victim and another chief in Eastern province who PF punished for refusing to endorse PF and Sata.

      All the chiefs endorsing candidates publicly are totally wrong and are committing a constitutional crime which should be punishable in one way or the other either by with drawing their benefits or temporarily de gazetting them.

      I personally do NOT want these endorsement by chiefs to continue by all means.

      Here in the UK the monarchy is Tory to the core but it restrains it self to be seen endorsing the Tories publicly. It follows the laws strictly.

      Why not amend the law to allow chiefs to join political…

    • The reason the chiefs have given of gvt not supporting chiefs is not correct. If there is any gvt that has supported chiefs since independence, it is PF. Just yesterday the gvt released money to renovate their homes. Let Chief Mukuni just say they are supporting HH because he hails from South. By the way this is not news to us because they have always supported HH. Next please.

    • Ba senior Fimo fimo clearly you show us which side of your bread is buttered: if mpezeni and other EP or NP Chiefs endorse EL it’s not tribal but if HH receives endorsement from SP Chiefs then it’s tribal! Why do you swallow and perpetuate such nonsense? Is Wake in wako not epitome of tribal thinking? Why does your RB support your EL and both focus their major thrust in EP? Why was this endorsement done Chipata not Lusaka. Pls come off it and get real: we all can see pure, unbridled, stinking tribalism played out by easterners.

    • Iwe cisenior citizen, were you not an MMD supporter not long ago. We can retrieve your comments from the archives and post them to you.

    • Hahahaha where is Pretty, that Wanzelu guy and the rest of HH supporters who condemned Paramount Chief Mpezeni.? You chaps insulted Mpezeni now I wonder what you will say. Probably you will say its like this becoz Easterners started.?

      Us in PF are just waiting for 20 Jan to vote for the best candidate and his name is Edgar C. Lungu.

      Viva EL Viva PF

    • People who talk about HH being the most educated are some of the most silly human beings I have ever seen. Edgar is a lawyer and so he is educated. Nawakwi is an economist. Nevers Mumba is a Theologian. All of them are well educated to university level.

      Find other reasons to sell your candidate and not the education vibe. Chipimo is a far much better candidate than all of them. He explains how he is going to tackle the issues he talks about unlike HH who says, “I’ll reduce electricity tariffs” but doesn’t explain how he will do it. Chipimo explains how he intends to handle job creation, agriculture, etc. I feel he is better than these chaps. In my opinion, HH and EL just want to have their names recorded that they were once president of Zambia. No wonder the desperation. I end here

    • This is so unfortunate, this is not supposed to be the role of chiefs in elections. let the tribal speculation go on but this endorses it and can lead to violence and further deterioration of national unity. How i wish we were one tribe but this tribal game will forever take us back. Nevers has used, Edgar did the same with the RB/Muhabi Lungu league and HH has always done it. I am convinced that Zambia is not ready for this election, i pray that the 2016 elections will see a new team on the politics scene. Cant wait to see the likes of Martin Kalungu Banda, Reuben Lifuka and many other dedicated men and women lead our country with a vision and selfless leadership – leading us to the Zambia We have always wanted.

    • @Mwanawa… who is we?
      How do you jump to the comment box without reading the article and you want to be taken seriously? That’s how you fail exams. Come on! Go back and read the article and stop being lazy! That’s what has killed our country – laziness and hoping others will do it for you. Those days are over and done with. On a different note, Senior Citizen sounds the seniority horn this time around and his analysis is getting somewhat sober. Let the best candidate win in this Presidential by-election. Just to iterate ladies and gentlemen – I have endorsed HH because he is the best candidate out of all the aspirants and showing a lot of statesmanship without being desperate.Lungu is in the third place with Nawaki second and Mumba fourth. I can bet my last dollar these what will be.

    • Pipos, do not make it a game of heaping insults on me. I am just extrapolating 2011 results into 2015 expected results. No malice and all the best to candidates to prove me wrong. A number of factors do change the forecasts and surveys. Barring any abnormal event between now and January 20, the following are expected results:
      EL is expected to garnish 1,550,000 votes while HH will get 980,790 votes. A word of caution though. Above results have taken into account a trend change of 30% in favour of HH and all votes of Mr. Chilupi going to HH. A further 20% shift will be a game changer. That will make HH a winner with 1,291,000 votes against EL’s 1,240,000.
      I am willing to share these and discuss what needs to be done to win last minute shift. Only EL and HH shall contact me, no middleman.

    • **** I can bet my last dollar – ok, make it a pound that these will be the results.

      1. HH (President Elect)
      2. Nawaki
      3. Lungu
      4. Mumba
      .
      .
      .
      14,467,887. Mushota (voted by saulosi)
      14,467,888. Saulosi (voted by Mushota)

      TONDOLO BOYS…..Commited suicide RIP (Rise If Possible)

    • It is clear endorsement is along trial lines. The chief goes no to say just like chief Mpezeni endorsed Edgar Lungu. Interpretation is Mpezeni endorsed his fellow Easterner. When did Chiefs get involved in politics? They shoukd remain neutral. Though no fair comparison can be made with Queen Elizabeth, Chiefs should stay out of politics just like her. Yes she is known to have favorites but she never voices her preference. Chiefs be dignified please.

    • I indicated in another post when pipo were condemning RB for endorsing Lungu that its actually the other way round. Today you have seen that ALL chiefs in SP back HH. But in Chipata Chief Nzamane received HH and endorsed him. So who is tribal? SP chiefs of course!

    • I think Mukuni was right when he said he did not chose based on tribe in that in the past he had never supported HH. In fact he supported RB.
      Nevertheless Chiefs should not be seen to take sides in politics. It is important that they receive who ever goes to their chiefdoms for campaigns in the name of courtesy call,

      It is becoming obvious that HH is winning these elections.

    • They gave reason for their endorsement. Even sosola deep down endorsed HH. But due to fear of victimization he withdrew. These are intelligent chiefs that mean well for this country. GMB is from the royal family, for him to endorse HH means a lot was discussed among the chiefs of NP and Muchinga. Only those no intelligent enough can not see this. RB has further divided PF the same way he did to MMD. How does Lungu arrogantly say those surounding him are job seekers? He thinks he already in state house? Only true job seekers are now remaining campaigning for him. The ones not seeking for jobs can not withstand such an insult.

  2. To all Chiefs in the country, your people are independent beings, let them chose as the see prudent. Hahaha.

    • Pipos, do not make it a game of heaping insults on me. I am just extrapolating 2011 results into 2015 expected results. No malice and all the best to candidates to prove me wrong. A number of factors do change the forecasts and surveys. Barring any abnormal event between now and January 20, the following are expected results:
      EL is expected to garnish 1,550,000 votes while HH will get 980,790 votes. A word of caution though. Above results have taken into account a trend change of 30% in favour of HH and all votes of Mr. Chilupi going to HH. A further 20% shift will be a game changer. That will make HH a winner with 1,291,000 votes against EL’s 1,240,000.
      I am willing to share these and discuss what needs to be done to win last minute shift. Only EL and HH shall contact me, no middleman.

    • I stand to differ with you. They are called subordinates.
      We might have to do away with the chiefdom structure in Zambia as it just encourages backwardness in the global sphere of things.

    • @Zedguru, you started off ok then got your knickers in a twist but hey – you are forgiven since you managed to untangle the g-string- HH all the way! Have a laugh.

    • @Sinazeze Bullet. HH is just the best among the crop of aspiring candidates . Just look at his achievements in life and character as an individual and you will agree that he fits the bill squarely. He has also reached the required maturity level. This man has survived in a hostile business environment, no GRZ contracts without which other big businessmen fail to make it. How does he do it? Great business acumen is the answer. When RB was president, several Southern Province cheifs supported him e.g. Mukuni, Sinazongwe, Sianjalika, Mwanachingwala etc. Almost the same cheifs endorsed PF in 2011. That is how MCS managed to get at least 25,000 votes. Now that they think HH is the best, they are tribal?

  3. Mlabeja which improvement do u want? PF govment has improved u markdly ncreased yo allowances by mo than 100 percent electrifyin palaces and given u vehicles. u r supporting him becoz z a tonga nway u hav alwaz been indorsing him that carries no weight

    • Iwe what are you talking about? PF has attracted heavy debt in 3 years which us youths and our children will suffer to pay back including yourself if you are below 35.
      Only this old man Chikwamba will not feel the pinch because he has outlived his time. He is busy getting more debt and you are busy yapping ati pabwato pawato!

    • @Kelvin,you are right. That is the problem we can see from Southern Province. The PF Government has made mistakes but it has also done many good things worth thanking it for. You have just mentioned some of them with respect to chiefs and if we take Southern Province itself,Choma is receiving a face lift as a new provincial HQ,Collum Mine was repossessed from reckless owners who cared little about mine safety. PF started working on the bottom road which had stalled for ages,renovated dip tanks,established animal health labs for the province where animal husbandry is critical for people’s lives. The PF tarred the Choma- Niko road and some other I may not know about! But come elections all these to the voters is not new to merit more votes for PF but to always vote as always- 90+ to HH!

  4. How will that sound in non bembas ears? you would have stayed quiet to avoid tribal talks, do you think southern province alone can win your son an election if we all decide to vote on trible lines? it will take you time to produce à president if you continue with that mentality.

    • Why didn’t you say that when your Mpezeni endorsed the Shake Shake master the other day? Blame Mpezeni who started this silly game…..

  5. OF COURSE. IN TANDEM WITH THE TENENTS OF THIS TRIBE. IT WILL BE FOOLISHNESS FOR ANYONE TO EXPECT THESE CHIEFS TO SUPPORT A NON-TONGA. THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE THIS AND THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE.

    • True, it shouldn’t be a surprise. What do you expect from the SP chiefs, endorsement of EL? Never! This is a clear tribal line they have taken. Its just a rubbish and childish excuse for Chief Mukuni to say because Chief Mpezeni endorsed EL that’s why the SP chiefs have endorsed HH. If Chief Mpezeni erred why should they also make the same even the worst mistake.

      Me I am Bemba, but have not endorsed any of the Bembas standing in this election. However, from the way things are now I can see EL carrying the day because of the emphasis the Chiefs from SP have placed on endorsing their tribes mate or son. This endorsement will cost HH votes.

  6. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Let them also endorse HH like RB endorsed EL. In fact HH is of higher calibre than EL

    • The challenge with HH supporters is that you need to realise that being a “successful ” individual does not make you a good leader. Of course qualifications are necessary but NOT sufficient. So many bad leaders are successful individuals in their own right. EL is a former monk just like HH (unless he was a mojo) so really the base does exist in both. What will be crucial will be how each one will demonstrate to lead.

      I see EL as a people-person but HH as a Me-person, mind you both types of leadership exist. Its up to the people on 20th Jan to decide which type they will favour.

  7. Another bunch of useful id1ots.I thought these mor0nz were suppose to be non partisan.

    He said the chiefs in the province would back Mr Hichilema, citing Chief Mpezeni in Eastern Province who has also backed Patriotic Front (PF) presidential candidate Edgar Lungu.

    Rely, these fumbafus should be uniting factors. What Mpezeni did need rebuking rather than following suit. The all thing just confirm how my beloved country is divided. I admire the Litunga and respect him for being non partisan. Even my Kandiles of Chiefs back in Luapula can’t match his status.

    Lungu Epulogulamu,
    Emukwaiye….

  8. Next time i will force my Chief to stand in my province. Some of us not having a Chief standing are losing out in learning tribal politics!

    • I hope Chieftainess Mweenda of Chikankata district is not part of Mukuni’s charade. these people are ungrateful. How can you forget that this government has helped clean up Chikankata where Bantu natives were busy defacating openly like animals?

  9. If it is true that Lungu is using RB money and not Nsanda that is good news. RB wants to punish the bemba people for the pain he has gone through the last 3 years. All bembas will be fired from top positions, replaced by other tribes as Lungu consolidates his position for 2016, if this is true, Lungu has my back. After all us bembas are one of the lest educated in Zambia, used to stealing and thuggery behavior. I think whoever wins HH or Lungu, the bemba are in trouble this time around. I give Lungu the benefit of doubt but I think if he is dealing with the mature RB who has learned the lesson of how bembas can mistreat you, it will be a nice game. Punish the bembas, he can still win 2016 as bemba is not Zambia, all tribes make up Zambia. At this point go Lungu or HH. Fix my tribe.

    • its a shame that Zambia has been reduced to tribal factions. well, i guess KK did his best to unite us, but 24 year later, we back to the tribal nonsense.

    • Carrs from the tone of your post you are not bemba. I am not less educated and for a fact I know a thousands of bembas who are highly educated. I have two degrees and two masters even more educated than your HH. if you are alive to reality you would know that there are many bembas who hold key positions in government and private institutions not because they were favored but because they merit o hold those positions. why are you jealousy of bembas you cows? c

    • Bembas will never be fixed. In fact no tribe will be fixed. Yes politicians think with their tribes but to run a country with the aim of fixing any tribe will be a big mistake. Even if HH or EL became presidents, their tribes men and women will buy from the same shops as with the rest of the country, go to the same hospitals, pass/fail same exams. Stop tribal thinking.

    • carrs,

      Please don’t mourn now, hold back your tears until the night of 20 January when your HH-UPND shall loss for a fourth straight time. Your southern Chieves’ endoserment of their Tonga son HH has no effect on Lungu. In addition It is not about Bembas but about Lungu winning and HH-UPND losing. It pains but that’s the truth. HH shall resign after 20 January. Amen.

  10. With Chiefs from Southern Province jumping in political ring, they have spoiled the chances of HH winning these elections. He was trailing behind EL by a big margin and even with 20% vote swing (over and above the extrapolated increase in his votes due to various factors), his chances were very slim, but with regional polarisation he might lose these elections by a considerable margin. Next extrapolation will be released in 14th January. Till then take care and remember at the end of political voting we are one Zambia one nation.

    • Professional uli kakopo! Mpezeni is Ngoni and Edgar is Nseng from Petauke. Know your country and its geography. To educate you, Mpezeni is not Edgar’s tribesman. Dora Siliya is Edgar’s tribeswoman

  11. This chief need only say, it endorses HH purely on tribal lines. Focus on Chiefs roles in Zambia was encouraged by PF. PF has had a good dialog with chiefs in General except for some unfortunate decisions in Northern Province. PF has worked hard to include Chiefs in gov’t.

    What’s really annoying about this, is the chief in that pictures is standing at that new hotel complex which has been started under PF. THAT HAS INCREASED tourism accommodation of high standard in that region. Meaning more jobs and money for that region.

    And this is how he repays PF! What a nerve. At least Nkhosi Mapezeni has something to go on. Proof of 3 years of development.

    We are splitting along tribal lines in Zambia.

  12. I cant belv that pipo with eyes can still blv that HH will win this election. This time transport is everywhere which part of northern is HH popular? For you chiefs we know how a Tonga feels about another Tonga

  13. THAT WAS EXPECTED ESPECIALLY FOR TONGA CHIEFS. THE ONLY PROBLEM WHY HH CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IS THAT HE LACKS NATIONAL CHARACTER.

    HE ONLY HAVE SOUTHERN PROVINCE CHARACTER. A TONGA FOR A TONGA AND HOW CAN HE EXPECT OTHER TRIBES TO BE FOR HIM.

    TONGAS HAVE A NATURAL HATE FOR OTHER TRIBES MORE ESPECIALLY BEMBAS

    • @13 I wish to take on you and hopefully we can have a healthy discourse. Firstly, I have read your blog among others that cast aspersions on the southerners “Tongas” being tribal.

      First and foremost, I wish to declare that I am of the Tonga descent and married to a Ushi and would want to find out from you and others supported by empirical evidence which support your decision.

      I will gladly wait for your blog, thus would not what to be prejudiced in my judgement.

      Please respond.

    • Largely because Bembas look down upon other ethnic groups and so Tongas like their cousins the Lozis cannot tolerate that sh1t. Sadly if this current tribal polarisation started by Sata and his PF is not handled well it will not be long before ethnic groups turn on each other. It has happened in other African countries and it can happen in Zambia. This practice of chiefs endorsing candidates is just not on – Chief Mpezeni and his colleagues in Southern province including that spent force RB should be condemned in the strongest terms for telling the world who their preferred candidates are.

    • Foolish men in the name of chiefs. You should NOT have said that. Your friends in the north simply accommodated all aspirants without “ranting” such sentiments, ino nywebo? So you are simply saying Edgar should not come to that province? Stay out of politics and retain your dignity.

  14. These tonga chiefs will be shocked with their tribalism. Just wait for 20th these people can’t appreciate even when you take development there as long as is their not in power..

    • Hey brother, Chief Mukuni has been promised paramount chiefdom by Vodka Lungu. He is a traitor. He has issued this statement to antagonise other tribes so that they vote against HH. Where did he get the money to host a meeting at Monze Hotel? How did he travel from Livingstone to Monze? He is a traitor.

    • @Kashiji, you are mixing up things. you talk about Bembas and then Eastern Chiefs. Do you mean Mpezeni is Bemba? You know the problem here is that Mukuni says Chiefs in Southern have endorsed HH while Mpezeni endorsed HH as an individual. Some chiefs in Eastern endorsed HH. Have you forgotten?

  15. In 2 weeks time, I will be castin my vote on EL and the PF, not because he is the second best candidate to HH (though very debatable); but because EL & PF are winning, and they deserve to finish their 5 year term.
    My question though is, will UPND stick with HH after Jan 20th, or will they finally be democratic enough to have a convention to elect a sellable candidate??? Truth is, if UPND doesnt win this election, they have to look past HH and go for someone else.

    • Don’t think HH would move aside for another! He is blindly obsessed and self engrossed!

      It’d end up in court as with MMD, PF!

  16. Chief Mukuni the most selfish Chief in Zambia, this same cretin features on the BBC documentary “When China met Africa” where is is trying to sell off land that belongs to his poor people..what an extremly greedy chap this Mukuni cretin is he represents the worst in some of the traditional leaders in Zambia, what greed he has, where other traditional leaders such as Chieftainess Nkomeysha of the Soli people in Chongwe are focusing on development of their people this greedy chap is busy showing off in a Limousine..a question what has HH in his capacity as a local tycoon done for Southern province??? Nothing absolutely nothing, even the UPND towns are poor managed as if they dont have leaders there..and you want to bring that style of leadership to Zambia..never mwana, never!
    **EL2015**

  17. Isn’t that something? This assumption that people who live within the parameters of a chiefdom will obey the chief. All these guys are following the same script. That stúpid Lungu and his Eastern chiefs. Now this ka Hakainde and his Southerners.

    I don’t know what’s going on with that crooked clergyman Nevers. Maybe he’s the only one who is left out to dry because he’s neither here nor there.

    This is 2015. It’s a shame that so many of us Zambians are still thinking we are hunters and gatherers, with our tribal tiffs and petty rivalries.

  18. All indicators are pointing at HH as Zambia’s next president. Zambians are not that stup!d and mad to deliberately hand over power to PF again. Why would anyone vote for Lungu with a thieving and drunken record? How insane and irresponsible is that? PF is in for a rude awakening and good riddance too.

    • January 21, it will be announced…Edgar Lungu is leading in the elections

      January 23/24 it will be announced…Edgar Lungu has won the elections

      By the first week of February it will be announced…HH has resigned as UPND president..

      ****VIVA EDGAR LUNGU 2015 AND 2016****

    • @20 Wantanshi

      HH SOLD OFF Mines for a dime! Caused loss of jobs and pensions! Destroyed lives.

      Why would Zambians hand power to a corporate raider?

    • I am sane and educated and I will vote for Edgar and the patriotic front. you can hang if you wish. I will never in my life vote for a HH. even if edgar is a convicted criminal I will still vote for him. that is how deep my belief is in the ideals of the patriotic front is. ViVa PF

    • @the philosopher

      You are educated but not sane if you are going to vote for Lungu, a drunkard with criminal past. Wake up. I can assure you HH has already won North, CB and Luapula vote and that’s what matters. Accept this truth and be happy for it.

  19. I totally agree with most of the comments on chiefs not being partisan. They are leaders in their respective chiefdoms and to persons belonging to a variant of political parties.

    Their involvement in politics should be condemned with the strongest terms possible. However, I have noticed that most bloggers who criticised the endorsement of HH by the Southern Province chiefs brought in the issue of tribe. The same bloggers did not condemn Mpenzeni with a tribal connotation. A lot of questions have been running in my minds:

    a)What could have the Southerners done to these other tribes?
    b) What do the Southerners possess which is abhorred/admired with envy by other tribes?
    c) What do others tribes have which is being threatened by the Southerners?
    d) Are Southerners the “Jews” of…

    • You will never get the answers because you will never be the so called other tribes. Just start thinking outside the tribe frame and you will be at peace. The truth is that wherever people meet prejudices arise. There are there even the same tribe for example different bemba speakers hate and suspect each other, Indians, tongas etc so stop looking for answers to vague questions because you will never find them. Even in families such divisions and suspicions are bound to happen. For me HH does not inspire me even if he was my tribesman, just like Sata and E

    • Mpezeni endorsed Edgar as an individual. He didn’t say Eastern province chief endorse Edgar. Some Eastern province chiefs endorsed HH. So when the whole Southern province endorses one person in HH, it becomes tribalism. And it’s loud. Screaming loud, TRIBALISM!!!

  20. Thats why i , my family and church members will never vote for HH or UPND as long as it is run by a tonga.hey these people are tribal.they dont even hide it!am appealing to all bemba speakers,easterners and other well meaning tribes across zambia to vote for Edgar Lungu!once we allow HH into state house,zambia shall only be for tongas like UPND is!look at the actions of their chiefs?to them only HH is the best bcoz he is tonga.ZAMBIANS PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES!LETS DEFEAT THIS DEMON OF TRIBALISM IN UPND!GO PF GO AND VIVA EL! IFINTU NI LUNGU!!!!

    • @Eddy. This kind of debate is primitive. I am Tonga and still do not support chief endorsement be it from Mpezeni or Mukuni. Our country has become so diverse to allow traditionalists lead the way in political discourse. In my area I come from, we have a village headman Musonda a Bemba of Musonda village in Tonga land, who has been there for over 60 years. Hallow! He has a right to be there, he is in Zambia and no Tonga has ever harassed him. When he is presiding over village matters his mixes Tonga and Bemba, no one gives a damn! That’s just one example among many I can give. That’s how we are. Do not mislead your self and others in the process.

      Separate intelligent talk from clap trap.

    • @Lwiindi Gonde. Even in Luapula valley, there is a Mudeda who is a chief in Lunda-land (I mean Lunda of the luapula valley which average people mistake for bemba area) on account of matri-linear system of inheritance and no one has a problem with it. I agree with you. Zambians are now tribaly mixed to a great extent. In 15 to 20 yrs from now the population of “mixed Zambian” is likely to rival or even beat those not not mixed. Lets drop this negative use of tribal inclination

    • A big point to remember, when Mazoka was Director for ZR almost 80% of his Managers where from one province. When a certain Lozi was in charge of the Police after independence, 90% of police men where Lozi’s. When Mwanawasa was President most of his cabinet Ministers where from the same family ( remember the family tree that was published about his cabinet). When Chiluba was president, mwanwasa and Miyanda where once vice Presidents and left Mwansawasa in plot one. When sata was president, Guy scot, a scotish was his vice, Simusa is in charge of agricuture, Lungu an easterner in charge of defence etc, Lubinda messed up becoz of his tribal links with UPND etc. Sata left Lungu from Eastern acting as President not someone from Nothern just like Chiluba left Mwanawasa from bantu botatwe.

  21. I am not an enthusiast of the chief endorsement paradigm. It’s usually based on various competing interests, including commercial gain especially when people like chief mukuni make an appearance.
    That meeting took place in Monze District, where was the host Chief Monze for example? I bet by tomorrow this or that chief will say ” this is not representative of all Tonga chiefs” and that’s back to square one.
    The endorsement worth debating is that of crooks like RB who want to ‘clean up’ his money he has been hiding in west africa by supporting EL. This to me is a minus for EL. It brings a whole cocktail of serious complex situations that advantage HH and UPND, if they exploit the matter well.
    PF is being hijacked by a faction of MMD. Has the PF NEC approved such a shift?

    • Lwiindi Gonde, I see you are trying to paint HH white and EL black. Let’s put the chiefs’ endorsement aside. Your tribal inclination still comes in here. You say EL is endorse by RB because of money you purport RB store but courts have not found him guilty yet. Who,appointed you judge over RB court cases? Your also HH is on the other hand endorsed by Katele Kalumba a convicted fellow and VJ a self confessed drug baron and many others who store with the person you are condemning. MaxwellMwale is clean. He is facing charges in court. Just come clean bra if you are going to support someone. Don’t attack their opponents. That’s being backward. I support Chipimo because he plays clean politics.

  22. Chiefs must not comment openly about their preferences, it is not right. Yes Mpezeni and other Chiefs have made their preferences public, but it is still not right. That’s why I like the Litunga, he is a real King and dignified!

  23. For tongas only HH is the best man in zambia!all of us despite our degrees or what we have,only HH is the best,what a great insult to mass zambians? This HH has been nothing in politics,but still tongas call him the best!ONLY A DULL PERSON CAN VOTE FOR SUCH AN ARROGANT AND SELF CENTRED LEADER!look at Edgar Lungu,he is a lawyer,MP,Defence and Justice Minister who worked very well under Sata and still very humble!NOW WHY DO TONGAS CHEAT HH THAT HE IS THE BEST? anyway he is the best in your toilets! FOR US MAJORITY VOTERS “IFINTU NI LUNGU”!!!!

    • The way they exhort HH as if he is the most Educated Zambian politician. Lungu is actually more Educated than HH. How many degrees does HH possess? and talking about wealth, HH is just hiding under other brilliant managers who are running the companies where he holds shares such the hotel in L/stone. He does not run those companies himself. Talking about keeping animals, even villagers keep cows, no special education for that.
      He was luck he stole money during privatisation and bought more animals which have been giving him money overtime. No special skill please twapapata. Give him a responsibility of running a country and you will be shocked with incompetence. Watch out Zambia. A country is not a company or a farm

  24. YOU (PUND) WILL BE DISSAPOINTED TOGETHER WITH YOUR CHIEF AFTER 20 th JANUARY ONLY TO SEE EDGAR LUNGU BEING INAUGARATED AS THE SIXTH ZAMBIAN PRESIDENT.SORRY IN ADVANCE BECAUSE YOUR LEADER HAHAHA WILL LOOSE WITH A BIG MARGIN FROM COPPERBELT,LUSAKA,NORTHERN,LUAPULA,CENTRAL,EASTERN AND MUCHINGA PROVINCES.OTHER PROVINCES LIKE NORTH WESTERN AND WESTERN WILL BE SHARED AND HAHAHA WIL ONLY WIN A LANDSLIDE IN SOUTHERN PROVINCE MAKING HIM TO LOOSE FOUR TIMES AS YOUNG AS HE IS.MARK MY WORDS COME 20 TH JANUARY 2015.

  25. Why did Sata include Chiefs in government? This group of people are supposed to be non partisan. This was done with a motive. Sata in his ignorance, lack of understanding, being a Mr Know it all and iced with poor governance included them in governement. What we are seeing is the result and Chiefs like Mukuni and his group and Mpezeni think they are now politicians. This endorsing of candidates is ridiculous. It worries me about Chiefs becaue they influence their subjects to vote for a person of the Chiefs’ choice. That is why Chiefs should stay out of politics.

    • @27 I totally agree with you. I wish all those other bloggers would think like that.

      As a person of Tonga descent, I feel insulted by people who label every Southerner being tribal. First and foremost I throw a challenge to all those “little people” to declare their tribes first and then give us evidence as to how the whole province could be tribal.

      I hope there will be a Southerner among them, may be then it would be justified.

      Would I be wrong to assume that Southerners are like the “Jews” persecuted in the Hitler times. Its only people with little minds who would think a certain ethnic grouping is tribal. However this will be qualified if people can buttress their positions with evidence, rather than just write foolish things.

  26. Ha ha UPND supporters u love tribalism.Why are u telling us that RB will punish bembas?Ifyabupuba!!!Why always divide and rule.Bemba speaking pipo are not that dulllllll to vote for HH.We’ll vote for PF period.Stop yo tribalism bamambala.U’ll cry coz come 20th jan HH gonna lose again.The same pipo composed a song that mubemba ni satani.I’ll also tell my chiefs in luapula not to vote for HH.Viva PF.Tribal politics now in Zambia.U’ll c who gonna cry bamambala imweeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  27. Mpezeni did that alone. Despite being a paramount chief, he never coerced other senior and sub chiefs under him to follow suit. But for Southern, the C chiefs all follow suit: this is what people are questioning. But this is not something to worry about: In Southern Province chiefs are just as ordinary as any individual. And in any case, was this tribal push even necessary? We know how southerners vote and this will just make other tribes to be defensive against Tongas

    • @29 With due respect, whatever you are, lets write from an informed postion. I am a Southerner and I presume you are not. Firstly Mpenzeni did not endorse EL alone, there was another Chief with him, but I cannot remember the name. The records are there to show.

      Mpenzeni and the same other chief glaringly showed their tribalism by refusing to meet with HH when he visited Eastern Province. Who talked about it, no one. To people like you its not tribal and its only tribal when its Southerners.

      In Southern Province, there are between 20-30 Chiefs and if 6 chiefs endorse HH then the whole Province is tribal. Think Bwana even just a little bit, but may be I might be asking too much from you and your kind.

  28. it sad indeed seing how our beloved country is being divided by our chief.
    sure wat do u expect from these chiefs as their subject?
    this chiefs of now days are nothing but crooks,greed,selfish and shameless.

  29. TRIBAL… elsewhere chiefs endorse individually…HH uzalila pa 21st. Drink enough mabisi on 20th.
    The man has spent alot of money..but all in water. Hard luck..

  30. But UPND is Tonga like Bantu Botatwe and a Southern Province Party. The point is HH cannot win any election without Muchinga, Northern, Luapula. Never!

  31. Like we expected anything else from southern province chiefs…HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH.

    This is the main reason why I can never vote for HH.

    EL2015

  32. Tribal politics.Mu bemba ngu Satani!!!
    ha ha ha southern province is known since 2001.For the its HH even if u build houses for everyone.For the it’s a Tonga to rule but mwanawasa also from Bantu botatwe.I can’t understand Tongas sometimes.Why can’t u behave like bembas who have supported EL from the begging when Sata died.They would have supported Miles sampa but they wanted change.When Mazoka died some tongas publicly said UPND should only be led by a tonga.U can tell now what they are saying.This why we say HH can’t win coz of tribal politics in UPND and some tongas.Anyway efintu ni lungu. Now i agree with tumfweko ati HH is ploting to make sure if he wins no bemba will become president in Zambia.Teti fititike mw

    • You are an im.becile.
      An irredeemable one. I hope you are not in a position of shaping any young minds.

  33. Analysis:
    1. UNIP- 4 letters
    2.MMD- 3 letters
    3.PF- 2 letters

    It either PF will remain in power for along time or
    Rainbow will be next.

  34. I’m very disappointed with these chiefs.They luck timing.They have just showed their true color fast.In politics it’s about timing.Let them endorse him but they have send already a wrong signal to eastern,luapula,northern,muchinga,cb,lusaka and central that wako ni wako
    Viva El for winning 20th Jan.
    efintu ni lungu

  35. The president should not have died. November 2014 – end of January 2015 is time lost time for mother Zambia. UNIP – for Independence, MMD for democracy and debt cancellation, PF for Rebuilding ending at the tower of babel. And then comes UPND for economic enhancement and empowerment.

  36. Good ridance for Tonga chiefs just as we Eastener chief will do the same to our son and will see the winner on 21st jan

  37. maawe TAATA –THIS REverses HHs gains in this election in this election.SO all chiefs in the country must endorses their sons of the soil .

  38. Be as it may,HH’s candidature should be seen as 1st and foremost to be about advancing Zambia’s best interests.

    Anybody who sees this differently must be a total tribalist.

  39. haci
    you have a democratic right to vote the candidate of your choice,so are tonga chiefs.In Zambia this is a common practice and that is exactly what RB,Dora Siliya,Mhabi Lungu, and chief Mpezeni have done to Edgar Lungu,,its supporting your own,but by and large and in all fairness,HH is a better candidate.

  40. This is not news. Ever since UPND came up southern province chiefs have always endorsed its candidate Mazoka and later hichilema. eastern province chiefs on the other hand double crossed RB in 2011. It would obviously be news if they endorsed edgar. akateka HH but te apa awe! Ngabamusepa mwikamutamfya ba UPND ninshi nomba akwata more chances of winning. apa, it is Edgar’s presidency to lose. Elo mu 2016 it will be according as he will connect with the public. katwishi!

  41. Tonga thiefs have given us a long worded description of Tribalism. We all get it HH is your son. Please understand that luapula, np, muchinga and eastern will vote for EL 90%. El will get 60% in lsk, cb, central. This will be enough to win for EL.

  42. TRIBALISM: In Zambia today if southerners support their own it is tribalism, but it is not tribalism if Easterners or northerners supports their own. hypocrites. Why did Chief Mpezeni and RB support Edgar Lungu? its their democratic right,if the think edgar is better,,,but some people may not see it in that way…we have read running comments suggesting that its all about supporting your own. You are your own best judge of the candidate you are supporting,,lets leave tribalism out, its not worth it. HH is for Zambia united. I voted for sata in 2011 because he was better than RB not on tribalism and am voting HH this time around because he is better than Edgar Lungu..no tribalism,,,becos Zambia is bigger than any tribe.

    • you are just dull to think that HH is not tribal. Can anyone in UPND be a President? think twice before you waste your vote. you might just discover that you are not as smart as you think you are.

    • @Sabina,Rupiah Banda and Mpezeni endorsed Lungu as individuals not as a collection or group. Chief Nzamane of Eastern Province endorsed HH while his Paramount Chief Mpezeni endorsed EL. Nothing of unity of purpose for a particular candidate for a particular province. We have yet to hear any chief in Nothern,Munchinga and Luapula endorsing anybody. Kanyanta Sosala the disputed Bemba Chief said all candidates were welcome but he was not endorsing any!! Our brothers from the South seem to loathe PF despite what it has achieved in short period of time;reopening of Munali Nickel mine,tarring of roads,renovation of chiefs’ palaces + electrification,dip tank renovations,animal labs,bottom road tarring etc..for them PF has failed them as if they had even voted for it!

    • You liar Zambia is for us,

      You are a UPND core supporter and you say you voted for Sata in 2011? Liar of all liars you are. You voted for your fellow Tonga HH and even in this election you are voting for your fellow Tonga HH. That’s what you are as reflected in your all chiefs of Southern declaring that ALL TONGAS WILL RALLY BEHIND THEIR FELLOW TONGA HH.

      But the writing is so clear that HH-UPND are losing for the fourth straight time in row. Amen.

    • @Truth Hates Hurts

      I’d have more respect for your opinion if you didn’t try and pretend it’s gospel truth by adding “Amen” at the end.

      you have an inflated sense of self-importance, which can only be described as delusional, at best.Even more Unfortunate for you (and us) it’s swathed in ignorance and prejudice.

      Go back (and this applies to all other ignoramuses spitting ‘tribe’ out of their no-no holes) and imagine you were reading your speech on the world stage – at the UN.

  43. This is what we mean when we say southerners are tribelist, there are some Bemba chiefs who have endorsed HH,but no single tonga chief has endorsed Lungu.

  44. But really some bloggers are very very dull with crippled grey matter.You can not compare the capabilities & vibrancy of HH to those of Lungu by far.Even on tribal lines basis or which ever parameters one is using.Chief Nza…of eastern province &a a video clip of GBM & a chief of northern province clearly argued that HH is the best candidate over all the other pretenders-which is a fact & the truth on the ground countrywide especially among the civilised voters & zambians.Henry Band is on record advising his mentally sick & selfish father that HH is the best on merit & nothing else! Yes HH is a tonga but unfortunately or fortunately,he will win & rule zambia.Those of you who normally settle for myopic & mediocre leaders,please get a life & swallow…

    • The blind bloggers have chosen to be blind because of the benefits which they are enjoying and fear for their future. But time for change is NOW.
      I concur with Chief Mukuni that Hichilema is the best. I personally can’t even compare him to EL. HH is vibrant. I agree.

      Viva HH, Viva UPND, Viva Endorsers.

    • Your HH-UPND is losing for the fourth straight time just as you lost in 2011. Remember always you rate yourselves so high but what comes out is a loss which will be the same even now. Your HH is losing and EL is in state house. Amen.

  45. It is good to see these *****s from the south clearly showing their true colours. When we said that southerners led by HH are just trying to stupify the Bembas and other tribes by seeming to preach unity most of you called us names. Tongas will never stop who they are and that is “Tribalists and bantustans”. It will be very difficult for a the UPND to rule this country under HH. Until they reach that stage where they will walk the talk. Otherwise count yourselves out. Only a few weeks ago when Elizabeth Chitika urged people in Luapula to support their own the whole bunch of bantustans cried foul. We know you mweba Tonga and you can never trick us into voting for HH. Viva Lunga.

  46. HH is going no where. He is still under 5. He should start with as a chairman in Gwembe. Iam sure manda hill, arcade, levy junction and east park mall will be full of cattle.

  47. .Henry Band is on record advising his mentally sick & selfish father that HH is the best on merit & nothing else! Yes HH is a tonga but unfortunately or fortunately,he will win & rule zambia.Those of you who normally settle for myopic & mediocre leaders,please get a life & swallow your pride.We can not settle for second best when we have the first best HH.13 days remaining for PF to Zwaaaaaaaaa.

  48. 1964 to 1991 Kaunda from bembaland. 1991 to 2001.Chiluba Luapula.2001 to 2008 Mwanawasa Bene Chishi Lenje/Lamba.

    Chimbuya started with Lupiya Banda handing over to Sata and Sata leaving instruments of power to Lungu who wants to be voted into office at all cost.Now is the presidency only change hands between these Chimbuyas?Mpezeni ,Lupiya Banda and Dora Siliya are doing a wako ni wako tribal endorsement which has been left un condemned but as for HH he has been endorsed by various ethnic tribes which gives him an upper hand of scooping the presidency if at all they wont be frudulent.

  49. I agree with comments that Chiefs should pose a neutral front. A neutral front for a Chief is very important because he/she is going to be a Chief of ALL his/her subjects FOR LIFE, regardless of the subject’s political views.

    They will gain and command unconditional all-weather respect from all their subjects all the way. As you say, a good example is the Litunga. The other good example is the Queen in UK.

  50. Those dull bloggers who are failing to use their God given brains to analyse social events will perish together with that outgoing liars party PF.The fact the majority voters are suffering more than ever before countrywide both in rural & urban areas & are despondent & despaired now under PF is an impetus enough to predict the outcome of these elections;The fact that HH has been endorsed in PF’s past perceived strongholds by both some chiefs & political heavyweights is a plus to HH;The fact that PF lied big time to Zambians & these lies are affecting the majority of us voters & definitely put HH at an edge over any pretender.We are tired of electing poor presidents who seem to be humble due to their poverty & failures but only concentrates to;enrich themselves…

  51. The fact that PF lied big time to Zambians & these lies are affecting the majority of us voters & definitely put HH at an edge over any pretender.We are tired of electing poor presidents who seem to be humble due to their poverty & failures but only concentrates to;enrich themselves via: thefts,corruption,nepotism,loans,violence & all bad governance practises.We will really see where PF will get more votes as everywhere the majority are really suffering.13 days more!

  52. Well done chiefs of Southern province for effecting your long tribal vote and you must know that you have destroyed HH-UPND completely. This is also confirming your stance which brought HH into the leadership of UPND that ‘ONLY A TONGA CAN BE PRESIDENT OF UPND” but not of Zambia. well done coz those non-Tongas who wanted to vote for HH cant do it any more.

    But remember that Lungu has won this election already. Amen.

    Peace and Prosperity to Mother Zambia.

    • Ok, if UPND have been completely destroyed, I trust we won’t be hearing from you anymore about them?

      That would be great – thank you.

  53. HH better win this election because if he doesnt, this WHOLE province endorsing him will give him a very big burdden for the 2016 election to kick out his TRIBAL TAG. How can THE WHOLE province think the same if not tribal? GBM is compaigning for him in northern and luapula and HH was fairly received when he was there.How do they feel now that southern province has endorsed him, ofcoarse they feel cheated and silly and that has the potentil to reverse all the gains he made in these areas. And that is what makes him a political underscorer in Zed politics.

  54. Welcome to the world of endorsements! It’s okay for the SP chiefs
    to go that way. Don’t condemn the chiefs. This is just what God
    wants us to see in the 50% +1 proposed constitutional provision.
    EL will enact the constitution in his tenure. Watchout in 2016!
    I pray that we shall not then feel the currect simple majority win
    was Ideal then.
    But whomsoever the Mighty God endorses, I endorse. Certainly not the
    3rd Degree Masonist or brotherhood.

  55. And these people still wish to deny being a tribal party? Kupapa fye. By the way, I am not Bemba though I speak it, so noti ifyakulanda ati ndetoba Bemba tribalism just because ndelanda iciBemba. Ndi mwana CB.

  56. Hmm its not a new thing for the traditional leaders in Southern Province to endorse HH. They have been doing it since its inception and they have been seeing it losing. May be they are doing ‘dont kubeba’ to please him. It is important for our traditional leaders to be helped understand the national political affairs in order to save them from shock of defeat of the party of their son

  57. The biggest liability HH has suffered from throughout his three failed attempts at the presidency is the tribal tag. One would imagine that with this in mind his UPND “educated” strategists they would work hard to distance him from any whiff of tribalism or tribal endorsement. This has just rendered him extremely toxic across the rest of Zambia as it confirms what the people have always suspected. Excuses that Mpezeni did it therefore they could do it for HH are at best childish because EL doesn’t have a similar monkey on his back. Education does not subsist in degrees but in intelligent use of knowledge. Clearly the degree infested ranks of the UPND are not as educated as the would have us believe. They have handed EL the presidency unwittingly.

  58. You dont start a “tribal war” when you are not the majority because when every body joins you are the end loser………HH should have avoided this, were are his strategists kanshi.

  59. 1. Tribalists!
    How can the entire Southern Province chiefs endorse U5?
    2. Liars!
    Is it not MCS and the PF that increased your allowances, bought you official cars and upgraded your palaces?

  60. @ 22.4 WANTANSHI. Have you visited the three provinces you have just mentioned (Northern, Copperbelt and Luapula)?
    Please go there now, and let us know what you find there. You will be shocked.

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