Thursday, March 28, 2024

HH says he will not attend Prayer Event, Event is mockery to God

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Opposition UPND President Hakainde Hichilema has declared that the PF government is making terrible mistakes because even God is allegedly upset with its governance style.

And Mr Hichilema has revealed that he will not attend the October 18th National Day of Fasting and Prayer because the event is tantamount to mocking God.

Mr Hichilema said even nature and God is upset with the PF government hence the many mistakes it is making.

He said every move that the PF makes is wrong adding that when God wants to remove a leadership, he turns His back on that particular administration.

Mr Hichilema said there is no leadership in the PF with the capacity to effectively administer national affairs.

The UPND leader who was speaking on a live Q FM Radio programme disclosed that he will not attend the October 18th National Day of Fasting and Prayer.

He said the event is a waste of time and a mockery to God.

Meanwhile, more organisations and individuals are stepping forward in support of the national day of repentance, prayer and fasting, with the Evangelical Fellowship of Zambia (EFZ) urging Zambians to put aside their political differences and unite in seeking God’s favour on October 18, the day President Lungu declared as a day of repentance, prayer and fasting.

EFZ executive director Pukuta Mwanza said in an interview in Lusaka yesterday that there is need for people from all walks of life to turn up in numbers to pray for the nation so that Zambia can be liberated from economic and political challenges.

“I am happy that tomorrow , we are approaching a month in which the President declared a day of repentance, prayers and fasting for the nation.

“People should take this day seriously and put aside their political differences. We need to pray so that the country can be more united. We should also pray for the forthcoming general elections so that they can be free and fair,” Reverend Mwanza said.

He said Zambia can only be liberated from the various challenges it is facing once the nation repents, fasts and prays.

Rev Mwanza said people must not criticise the declaration of October 18 as a day of repentance, prayer and fasting but should instead commit themselves to prayer so that God can provide solutions to the challenges affecting the nation.

He said Zambia is a Christian nation and the only way the country can have peace, political and economic stability is through repentance, prayer and fasting.

Rev Mwanza said President Lungu’s declaration will also create a conducive atmosphere for next year’s tripartite elections as people reflect on various issues affecting them through repentance, prayer and fasting.

“To this effect, we have already written to all our members country-wide to oblige to President Lungu’s declaration of October 18 as a day of repentance, prayer and fasting.

“We want all our members to regard this day as an important day and we are also asking the government to come up with a strategy that will ensure that all bars and night clubs are closed on this important day so that many people can attend the prayers,” he said.

Evangelical Youth Alliance International president Moses Lungu has also urged all the churches to educate their members about the importance of this day.

“Our people who have no sufficient information about prayers must be taught to pray and fast so that this country can be liberated.

“Zambians must also thank President Lungu for declaring October 18 as a day of repentance, prayers and fasting because this is the only solution to the challenges affecting the nation,” Rev Lungu said.

Zambia Union of Financial Institutions and Allied Workers (ZUFIAW) general-secretary Chingati Msiska has commended President Lungu for declaring October 18, as a day of repentance prayer and fasting. Mr Msiska said ZUFIAW has welcomed the day and members country-wide will participate in praying for the nation.

And Prophet John Simfukwe of the Inter-denomination Jesus Ministry has praised President Lungu for declaring October 18 as a day of repentance, prayer and fasting. He urged all Zambians to join believers in praying for the healing of the nation.

The Zambia Jubilee Coalition (ZJC) has advised MMD president Nevers Mumba and Bishop John Mambo as senior clergymen to lead the country during the national day of repentance, prayer and fasting on October 18, MONICA KAYOMBO reports.

ZJC vice-president Isaac Kibombwe said President Lungu should be supported for declaring October 18 as a national day of repentance, prayer and fasting.

“The head of State should be supported in this pronouncement as Zambia is a Christian nation which must commit itself before God Almighty in humble adoration of God’s goodness to this country for 50 years now,’’ Mr Kibombwe said.

He said it would not help if knowledgeable and experienced church leaders like Dr Mumba and Bishop Mambo who understand biblical principles ignore the national day of repentance, prayer and fasting for political mileage.

Mr Kibombwe also said the culture of insulting should not be encouraged because it will not help move the country forward.
“Zambians should look to God to help us address the many economic, social, and political challenges that the country is facing today,’’ he said.

Mr Kibombwe said all churches regardless of denomination must take an active part in the national day of repentance, prayer and fasting which the President has declared to seek God’s intervention.

163 COMMENTS

    • Am getting fed up of HH sanctimonious arrogance. That said, the people I really pity are the “HH-walks-on-water” types who will never see their messiah in state house because of his detached attitude!

    • What prayers naimwe? Us who drink with chagwa know that he is a Muslim not Christian,,, and Zambia is a Christian nation,,,,so the question is are we praying to Allah with a bottle of jamesson in one hand or what??

    • @Dalitso; seriously HH needs more people. And what I mean by that is he needs new advisors. When you want to get elected president, you act like you are the small guy. Make the electorate feel like kings. You don’t get elected by making the electorate feel $tupid or F00LISH. If HH where a good leader, he would swallow his pride, even when he knows too well the prayer meeting is a sham. But the people of Zambia will see a caring person and in the end vote for him. But HH would rather smear pie in the electorates face! And he wonders why he will forever be in the opposition!

    • Reconcile with your enemy first; then God will forgive you and bless you. You cannot mock God. You can not expect God to hear your prayer if you shoot at God people and then pretend to pray to him. These things are in the scriptures. The Cabinet can repent, and intercess for the country, God will bless the nation.

    • HH is right. You can’t be messing on simple issues and going to God for prayers. Is it God who told you to create 5 new ministries when you know you are broke? Is it God who told you to buy 157 cars for DCs? Is it God who asked you cadres to be shooting at people. Please, let us not use God’s name in vain

    • I support your stance HH. Self inflicted poverty does not need prayer. It is a waste of time and an abuse of God’s name. The drunkard said he has no idea, no vision of how to run the country. You voted for him to solve some of your economic challenges but instead of doing, or even saying, something about your problems, he says pray to God to give you answers! Why do you even pay for his livelihood when only God can solve them? Get rid of this ldiot in 2016.

    • hh even if you dont attend prayer meeting we know you that you are a satanist, if any thing if you attend you will hinder our prayer to reach God.

    • This national prayer for national prayer, reconciliation & unity, who is being reconciled & united & against what? Who is the wrongdoer?

      Is it ECL for demeaning Tongas as Kachemas? or Is it Mumbi & Chama for demeaning & insulting Tongas? or is it Tongas & allies voting UPND against PF? or is it Bembas & allies voting PF against UPND?

      What is the expected outcome, is it for all Zambians to vote PF only or UPND only that’s when unity & democracy will have been achieved? I thought that would be tantamount to one party state & dictatorship!

      List me the wrongs committed for us know what we are reconciling about & uniting against.

      I am asking these questions because even in the United States there are predominantly Red (republican -Texas) & Blue(Democratic- California & New York)…

    • What HH is saying is the truth. Zambian ‘s economic woes do not supernatural intervention at all. What it needs is prudent management. I laugh at people who go to inyangas or seek prayers to give them lucky charms for business when the very inyanga is struggling to make ends meets. It does not make sense at all.

      What PF want is like stealing from some one and then pray to God to asking him to guide you on how to hide from the police so you don’t get caught.

      How can you steal and then ask God to help you hide or help you provide more rich victims to steal from, really? How preposterous!

      If Zambia is develop and compete with the rest of the developed world, Zambians must avoid believing in superstition as the only way to get anything done.

      If superstition works, how inyangas…

    • If superstition works, how inyangas has Lungu consulted and paid millions to help him turn the economy around but instead its getting worse each minute. Given such a scenario its time for Lungu and PF question the legitimacy of consulting supernatural powers to help them.

      PF and Lungu should admit that they have failed dismally to run the affairs of the country.

      Lungu just like his predecessor Sata will go down in history as the worst Zambian presidents. Even KK was 100 times better than these gang of thieves.

    • “Zambians must also thank President Lungu for declaring October 18 as a day of repentance, prayers and fasting because this is the only solution to the challenges affecting the nation,” Rev Lungu said.”……………………………….
      Bane, is this the case?

    • Don’t get me wrong, prayer works if its genuine.

      Do you think its in order to ask God to help you maintain your position of authority so that you can continue to deceive the poor and steal from them? Really? I do not think so.

      People lets not mock God in this way because he can unleash more suffering on Zambia than there is at the moment.

      I strongly believe God is punishing Zambians for letting PF continue to rule. By the way more suffering is on the way folks for as long you continue burying your heads and worship Lungu and his PF stooges.

      Kwacha will hit more that K100 to a dollar by November next year.

    • It is either HH does not read the Bible,understand the Bible or does not believe the Bible at all .
      Maybe he does not belong to any church or he hasn`t got a pastor because his decision is unchristian.
      But us who love him still have a duty to pray for this man so that God can show forth His mercy in due time.
      With man it is impossible to change HH but with God it is possible ,therefore don`t worry,he will know the truth
      and the truth will change his thinking.

    • Under the old covenant, in the Bible, the focus is on you—Thou shall not…Thou shall not…Thou shall not…It is all about your performance, your obedience, your works. But under the new covenant, God says, “I will put My laws in their mind…I will be their God…I will be merciful to their unrighteousness…their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” It is no longer you working for God, but God working for you, in you, through you!

      Beloved, look to His grace to do what you cannot do. Say, “Lord, I cannot, but You can!”

    • The October is mainly associated with Islam events. ECL he is trying to make this month holy even to Christians. Think of Roman EMPIROR Constantine he disguised himself to be Christian by accepted Christianity by compromising paganism and Christianity, hence the mixture of paganism and biblical doctrines in Christianity. Leaders use Christianity to win support from Christians without fully repentance. Think of Chiluba, he did this in order to do corruption in the name of Christianity. Mind you we worship God differently, Roman Catholic faith is different from Pentecostal churches which is also different from Jehovah’s witness and SDA. So don’t condemn those who has different views from your faith. HH and those against this prayer day are right considering the differences which they have…

    • Don’t care for sure. Please give a object positive contribution other than speculation. Thats why we don’t develop as a nation!!!

    • THE DOG IS U BAPONGOZI.WE JUST HAD AN ELECTION RECENTLY AND WHY SPEND MORE MONEY ON ANOTHE4R ELECTION?SO U THINK IF HH BECOMES PRESIDENT THINGS WILL IMPROVE?U THINK HH WILL RAISE THE PRICE OF COPPER AND SOLVE LOAD SHEDDING.

    • The worst thing one can do is to try to diminish the power of prayer. Some leaders lack wisdom they politicize everything. It doesn’t matter who calls for prayers, it pays to pray and you lose nothing but gains.We thank God for an opportunity to pray as a nation, it’s needs support from every believer in Christ . We don’t mind when non believer don’t attend because the only prayer they need is the prayer of salvation.we shall pray and God will answer us.

  1. This news is not surprising. We all know what HH stands. He talks about God and nature. Hope ECL will genuinely turn to God. God is working on the foolish PF.

    • HH is right, I support him badly, How can one intentionally jump into a flying pan and then ask God to intervene. That is mockery in the highest order.

    • God wants us to release that tremendous power that is in us, the power that shakes the heavens and the earth because it comes from the throne of God, and where 2 or more are gathered there i am in their midst, and there are things that will not happen on earth until we do so.

      Jesus said that “whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”. (Matthew 16:19) What Jesus is saying is that what you permit to happen. heaven will permit. What you disallow, heaven will disallow!

  2. HH is right. You don’t need prayer to stop political violence, all you need is for leaders of political parties to start treating one another with respect, stop treating one another as enemies and to tame their cadres. You don’t need prayer to manage the budget deficit, all you need is to practice fiscal discipline and live within your means. You don’t need prayer to elect competent leaders just like you don’t need prayer to employ competent employees, all you need is to focus on proven competences of the people you are employing. Let’s all just behave, do the right things and stop wasting God’s time!

    • HH is right!!, there is no way you can be doing things deliberately and then say God will answer our prayers.You are being advised to cut down on your expenditure but you go ahead and create more ministries,create Districts, appoint DCs, buy them new vehicles which are imported thereby increasing pressure on the kwacha, Charter a plane to New York to carry party cadres.
      Then call for National prayer and fasting to ask God for help!…Really?isn’t this tantamount to putting your God to test as the Bible says?
      God helps those who help themselves. I wonder what would have happened to the country if PF was in power during the Financial crisis of 2008.

    • This national prayer for national prayer, reconciliation & unity, who is being reconciled & united & against what? Who is the wrongdoer?

      Is it ECL for demeaning Tongas as Kachemas? or Is it Mumbi & Chama for demeaning & insulting Tongas? or is it Tongas & allies voting UPND against PF? or is it Bembas & allies voting PF against UPND?

      What is the expected outcome, is it for all Zambians to vote PF only or UPND only that’s when unity & democracy will have been achieved? I thought that would be tantamount to one party state & dictatorship!

      List me the wrongs committed for us know what we are reconciling about & uniting against.

      I am asking these questions because even in the United States there are predominantly Red (republican -Texas) & Blue(Democratic- California & New York)…

    • I am asking these questions because even in the United States there are predominantly Red (republican -Texas) & Blue(Democratic- California & New York) states/regions. Even in UK there are regions for Tories & Labor. It’s their democratic right to vote for whichever party. No one cries tribal or racial sentiments.

      Why only want your party to be dorminant & call it democracy? This January 2015 “27,000” election result has really scared PF to the brim!

    • Ba K Bwalya – Clearly you do not understand what prayer can do. Coming together for prayer is the best way to start talking to each other with civility – even for enemies. We are not enemies in Zambia except for people like you who promote enmity.

  3. Arrogant.. he has now become the mouth piece for God? God should be left out of politics and this fellow wants to lure gullible Zambian’s in to believing that God is upset. He is a fool this one.

    • Who has lured Zambians apart from ECL for making a mockery on God. How do you decide to go in the deep seas and jump off the boat later ask God to save you How?

  4. HH is a satanist, everyone knows it and if he attends prayers mashabe yazauka. Zambia is a free country and HH is at liberty to do so. Please don’t plead for him. Please fellow satanist give a negative vote.

  5. HH never learns the last bluff he pulled was to shan Jubilie celebration and now this?Which nation does he want to lead?

  6. Prayers are needed by and GOD helps those who work hard to put food on the table. You can not call for prayers and then fold your arms and wait for God to provide manna. We need to plan and work hard to stabilize the things. The govt has called for prayers and it does not put measures to curb criminality within themselves. Just few weeks ago the president declared war against the Post and Mmembe. One wonders if these are genuine prayers if you can instigate violence against your brother created in the image of GOD. These days it is common for thieves, the so called men of God to call for prayers but what they inhibit in their hearts is evil. These days we have imposter men of GOD who cheat people just to earn a living out of it.

  7. Comment:HH is 100 percent correct.It was b4 CHAGWA had ordered police offices to brutatlly kill those young children in solwez west by-election when he declared 18-10-15 as a day of prayer, fasting and repentance.His declaration was not genuine and God will severely punish him 4 being hypocritical.

  8. I cant waste my time to go for prayers tht day. Pf should first stop the barbaric behaviour they portray towards opposing views. Hw do you call for prayers whn hv failed to run the country. Hw do cal 4 prayers after having a budget overran, hw do u cal 4 prayers after failing to manage the economy. The declaration of this day is just trash. Pave way for competent pipo to takeover.

  9. You will have to drug, drag, pull and push me to come and attend this pLayer or sorry I mean prayer. Otherwise I am going kachemaling on that day as you close them eyes.

  10. God tells us to respect leaders! HH is looking towards ruling this country and if does not respect other, how does he expects us to respect him?

    • HH is not looking for any respect at all, the problem with a lot of Zambians especially my stooges in the PF is that they are easily fooled. Chagwa will tell you to go and fast and pray and afterwards, go to enjoy his jameson while you my fellow PF sympathizers go away singing hallelujah to Lungu on empty stomachs and back in abject poverty. That is what HH is saying is a mockery, wake up from your slumber Zambians.

  11. God tells us to respect leaders! HH is looking towards ruling this country and if he does not respect others, how does he expects us to respect him?

  12. KUTUMPAFYE NANGU TAWILEKO. JUST START HOME MUNE.
    BUT MIND U U WONT BE A KATEKA IN 2016 MARK MY WORDS.
    UPND SUPPOTERS WAKE UP . THIS MAN S FALLING U…

  13. this “Christian Nation ” sh!t is all but puke – governance is no holy trade but of the flesh…stop looking “above” for redemption, that is spiritual; but you’re alive RIGHT NOW! In a Country gone to the Dogs! And you think prayer is the answer…it makes one SICK !!!

  14. Lungu is also not Christian, he is Muslim. And Reverend Pukuta has failed to even build a proper EFZ Church in Chamba Valley, how can a man of God fail to see that Chagwa is playing on people’s minds? Jameson prayers, nonsensee!

  15. I ii also nt attend coz jameson shud step down coz he hs failed 2 run da country. Thrs no way a president cn b experiencin both natural ad man made prblem.

  16. …God ONLY HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES….think tha one through and you’ll understand why Religion has NO CONSTITUTIONAL depth in ALL DEVELOPED COUNTRIES !!

  17. Too many insults here, nanchepa ine. I wish to support HH. You bloggers are talking of prayers to reconcile and you are busy here insulting HH. Do you really mean reconciliation? I would have thought that if you feel he is going awol, you should have provided good advise so that he can see your side. He has take a side himself so the onus is for you to make him see your side like that we can use the term reconcile. What do I expect to see at the cathedral? People like super ken, RB sitting there and praising there almighty EL. Why should those with contrary view go there to be embarrassed?

  18. I will go for prayers when one declares that he has the capacity to fix the free falling Kwacha. God can never be mocked. I challenge the bishops attending those F&P session to give us results after to the effect that our Kwacha will appreciate to ZMW5/dollar.

  19. Pray for the dollar Kwacha relationship, pray for salary increments for all civil servants, pray for one to stop taking too much alcohol, pray for Chishimba Kambwili to tame his tongue, pray for the the reduction of fuel prices. If the above prayer request will be answered even by 50%… I will vote for Lungu next year…if not then HH is right. I will be waiting for answered “prayers” on 24/10/15

  20. Pray for me to be able to buy Toyota Duet from BeFoward duty free….pray for RATSA to reduce poverty by lowering their fees….blown bulb sure paying ZMW3000 when the bulb costs ZMW5. Pray that the police should stop accepting bribes and at the same time be coperative

  21. Imagine this scenario:

    On October 18, 2015, HH shows up at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross with his entourage of UPND executive members. He not only passively listens as the bishops, pastors, etc. lead the prayers, he also volunteers, with ZNBC and MUVI cameras blazing, to pray for the unity and well-being of the nation. In my view such a gesture would gain him a lot of appreciation in the public domain and raise his stature as a leader of the nation and as presidential material. If he just stays at home sulking, like a toddler whose toys have been taken away, who will even think of him?

    • Stupidity is NOT a sin and does not therefore disappear upon repentance….stop this pseudo-spiritual sh!t in the face of man-made disasters like the current Scenario in Zambia! Don’t accuse HH of arrogance just because u have cerebral numbness in the face of governmental incompetence, this IS the scope and consequence of “demographic voting” abusing a failed constitutional System. STOP THINKING WHAT HH SHOULD DO! DO something about YOUR dilemma as a citizen, else STFU !!

    • @Maikalange; Would these be prayers to God or campaigning? HH is probably right. Let the PF address the real issues before they call upon God. Kambwili’s call on Fred Mmembe to be ‘prayed for’ implies PF has no problems – much like the Pharisee prayed. God listened to the Tax collector. Infact, the bible says “…the Pharisee prayed TO HIMSELF…”. We might be in that same position.

    • He arrives with his team of senior party members. As he approaches the entrance, a group of youths armed with pangas block them saying boma ni boma. You are not entering this place all because reconciliation was not done before calling for prayers. The bilble tells us what to do when you realise you have not made peace with your brother just before you give your offering. In this case our offering will be prayer.

  22. Reconciliation between who and who? Who should determine that now we need a national day of prayer and fasting? People pray everyday, some on Saturdays and Sundays.

  23. You don’t need to fast and pray for anything here. Just remove Edgar Lungu and PF from power and all economic and political problems fall away. These PF decisions made over a Jameson.

    • Lungu and his hypocritical Day of prayers – No change to Zambias problems………..

      Lungu gives a PRESS CONFERENCE and tells the Nation his plan for solving issues – 100% immediate change in Zambias fortunes……

      And which one does Lungu choose????????????????????

  24. HH,but y shan prayers? Remember, Zambia is a christian nation by constitutional declaration and over 80% of Zambians re christians. Where re u going to get the vote that takes u to state house.This is y I say,this FREEMASON will never rule this country.He is arrogant and thinks he is superhuman.People mark my words,come 2016,ECL will win again!!!

  25. HH please reconsider your position. Alternatively organize your prayers or attend one in Mazambuka or Monze but L/stone would be ideal if you’re worried about your security. IF YOU WONT ATTEND THEN FORGET ABOUT BEING A LEADER in Zambia. With your stance on this matter, you are just putting yourself in a position where you will be misunderstood and this might go to confirm the mud they have thrown at you.

  26. WHY SHUD PRAYER CALL IGNITE SO MUCH HATRED FROM U UPND CADRES?SHUNNING AWAY PRAYERS WILL NOT EARN HH VOTES.WE NID TO PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND HH IS EXPOSING HIMSELF BY NOT ATTENDING.

    • This is not about votes you buff! Ist about YOUR RIGHT to decide! A president is NOT a chief! Prayers by decree is no better than frog-jumping the People into one-party dictatorship as Kaunda did…This is about freedom of association, speech and simple common sense: Prayers/Religion help human beings spiritually, the reality is nature’s DAILY Music ALL have to dance to; STOP BEING UNFATHOMABLY DUMB !!!

  27. prayers are prayers, if hh wont go to the prayers let him keep it as a secret than to announce, they don’t force to go for prayers.

  28. Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior predicted His death and His traitor, even so He showed him love. He even forgave those that nailed Him to the Cross saying “Father forgive them for do not know what they doing.” HH doesn’t know what is doing! How on earth can he refuse to repent and reconcile?
    The Bible clearly tells us that turn to God in times of need and repent your sins so that the Father in Heaven can heal your land.
    I ask all genuine Christians to forgive HH because the only thing on his mind is that he is answer to all the problems we are facing. Infact what this man is telling everyone is that God is a liar because He cannot forgive our sins.
    Am not a prophet but I see HH’s ending will be so bad and devastating that even his closest friends will not understand. My…

  29. HH IS 450% CORRECT. IT’S LIKE NOT STUDYING FOR AN EXAM OR SOLVING MATHEMATICS/EDUCATIONAL PROBLEMS RELATED TO AN EXAM AND THEN ASKING GOD TO HELP YOU. LOOK AT THE THINGS LUNGU IS DOING. SPENDING $300,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY. I REPEAT TAXPAYER MONEY TO CHATTER A FLIGHT WHILE A POOR CHILD GOES WITHOUT FOOD, A MOTHER CANNOT AFFORD MEDICINE FOR HER SICK CHILD. ALL BECAUSE WE HAVE AN INCOMPETENT LAVISH PRESIDENT AND YOU EXPECT GOD TO HAVE FAVOUR ON HIS LEADERSHIP?

  30. he cannot come because we all know who he prays to. Zambia this is a warning and answered prayer for those who were still doubting about the faith of chintombwa.

  31. Even if HH does not attend the prayers who cares, the prayers are for Zambians and HH is not the only Zambian. Infact a lot of people will not attend and so it does not make any difference whether he attends or not. He has not attended major functions but the functions have succeeded. T.M. Chiba. Lusaka.

  32. naive hh you really think God can be mocked. You have moved a wrong piece it will be check mate. Zambian people wil not support such.

  33. Comment: I for one have a brain and can’t be confused by Hh. When voting comes around, you will see. Hh can’t be president of Z.

  34. …the problem here is not the declaration but who pronounced the declaration…..if this day was declared by say…. Father Chiti or Pukuta Mwanza himself or anyone who heads the so called Christian Organisation…more people would come on board….
    ….a situation were a defiler claims he was influenced by the devil and he goes to ask for people INCLUDING the parents of the defiled 6yr old girl to pray for him…….

    • Your response clearly shows that you dont understand the position of the President in God’s eyes. Edgar to declare prayer and fasting for the nations is a big thing in the eyes of God.

    • This is exactly the point.

      It is clear to anyone with the smallest brain that Lungu is using traditional PF tactics to divert attention from his failures to run the country by using religion. Why should he ask people to pray? People can pray anytime they want, in any Church the want to.

      Why is this drunkard now trying to mix up politics and religion?

      He is trying to make GOD the scapegoat for his FAILURES!

  35. HH has invested so much in his bid for the Presidency but he is not a man who wants to be President at the cost of his personal convictions. He won’t pretend to do or say something just to please some people.
    We are in this mess because we follow populist politicians like Sata.
    For once as an electorate let’s judge our future leaders on the basis of their convictions & not on their populist rhetoric.
    If nothing practical is done, we will wake up on the 19th oct & our economy will still be sliding downwards.

    • You are forgiven! Leadership is not self imposed but brought about by actions that draw people to its leader. Am sorry, HH may have all the money in this world, try this and that, use dark evil forces but when God’s people have rejected him, nothing can bring him the clout and victory he so wishes.
      The man lost it a long time ago somewhere in 2006 and in as far as we concerned as Zambians, our next President after President Lungu in 2026 is not yet known and certainly not HH. Its written in hearts, we know who HH is and can never ever allow him and his masters to be near the corridors of power in Zambia.

  36. HH is a Satanist. So you do not expect him to attend prayers. He does not believe in reconciliation. Sata once went to State House and reconciled with Mwanawasa. Remember that nice day? So Mr. Masonist, we will not miss you. In fact it is better that you do not attend our prayers because if you do, our prayers will be diluted!

  37. Drawing upon God’s power is an option available to all of His children. In fact, we will not grow and overcome as He desires without drawing on that power. The natural man can make great progress regarding change, but unless God is involved, all his effort will not be aimed toward the same goals God desires when He motivates those changes. Without God’s involvement, a person’s labors are essentially vain.
    I thank God for the leadership of President Lungu and the PF administration. Those with eyes let them see what lies ahead of this great nation! There is no turning back, Zambia is poised for greatness with Mr. Lungu and its PF Government, shalom.

  38. Now I am seeing that Zambia is full of incompetent people and the challenge with incompetence is that you even fail to understand the Bible. Prayer and fasting for what? Is it God who voted for you? Surely if we think that it is through prayers that: (1) we shall create employment; (2) we shall grow our economy; (3) we shall strengthen the local currency; (4) we shall reduce the cost of living, then we are a dead nation. Please just use your brains wisely. Prayer is ok at a personal level. Your relationship with God is very personal and can not be proven by physical means; it is spiritual. Stop wasting our time and please focus on real issues that will solve our problems.

    • Mr Sure you just nailed it. Like they say “religion is the opium of the masses”.
      Clueless Jameson now wants to divert his failures to God. When we are still deep in this messy (looking at most comments here we surely will) on 19th he will say God hasn’t responded because we are of little faith.
      Kick the lazy bum out.

  39. You send the police to harass opposition leaders then you say let’s meet for prayers? Lungu has no right to tell any one to go and pray when he is surrounded by thugs.

    • Hebrews 4:16
      Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. Come boldly to Him who knows everything about your situation and has the solution. He has wisdom far beyond that economist or doctor you highly respect, that lawyer or engineer you greatly honor and the best experts you can consult. Beloved, come boldly to the throne of grace to obtain mercy and grace to help in your time of need! You can come boldly because you come to God by the blood of Jesus Christ and not by how you have lived your life.

  40. ‘He said the event is a waste of time and a mockery to God’.

    Anaka Mulungu HH Imwe ba Zambia sure. And he wants to be the president of a Christian nation(Zambia).

    Kayamayo next year

  41. BOZ has failed nowonder HH is not attending the church service.I would pray for when u making mistakes.God gave us brains to use.If i were Lungu i would fire Kalyalya.He is a failier. Lungu has killed PF through Kalyalya who has no experience in mananging the economy thru exchange rates.He got wrong advise from RB team so that corruption would start.Gondwe was the right man for the current situation coz what u need to put controls.There is noway u’ll will allow free market when u know that u don’t export anything.BOZ was supposed to control the exchange rate by fixing it.This is why there are two terms:depreciation and devaluation of currency.What we are expericening is depreciation of kwacha.The impact is huge which has killed the country and makes PF less chance to lose elections in…

  42. Comment:There are issues to call for prayers and even if prayers were to be conducted can God hear a prayer of a drunkards?corrupt leaders and leaders that are taking many peoples lives to their early graves due to failure to provide health care and hard economic problems.it is for this reason I support HH position

  43. BOZ has failed nowonder HH is not attending the church service.What I would pray for when u making mistakes.God gave us brains to use.If i were Lungu i would fire Kalyalya.He is a failier. Lungu has killed PF through Kalyalya who has no experience in mananging the economy thru exchange rates.He got wrong advise from RB team so that corruption would start.Gondwe was the right man for the current situation coz what u need to put controls.There is noway u’ll will allow free market when u know that u don’t export anything.BOZ was supposed to control the exchange rate by fixing it.This is why there are two terms:depreciation and devaluation of currency.What we are expericening is depreciation of kwacha.The impact is huge which has killed the country and makes PF less chance to lose elections…

  44. BOZ has failed nowonder HH is not attending the church service.What I would pray for when u making mistakes.God gave us brains to use.If i were Lungu i would fire Kalyalya.He is a failier. Lungu has killed PF through Kalyalya who has no experience in mananging the economy thru exchange rates.He got wrong advise from RB team so that corruption would start.Gondwe was the right man for the current situation coz what u need to put controls.There is noway u’ll will allow free market when u know that u don’t export anything.BOZ was supposed to control the exchange rate by fixing it.This is why there are two terms:depreciation and devaluation of currency.What we are expericening is depreciation of kwacha.The impact is huge which has killed the country and makes PF less chance to to win elections

  45. I agree with HH

    Let us not mock God, by trying to please people. How can you call on God only to portray an image to people, yet in your private time make no effort to reach out to Him. Which denomination shall be leading these prayers and what is their stance on the state of affairs in relation to the bible.
    Indeed every time God is upset with a people He reacts and nature reacts to. The bible states that hills and mounts skip at the presence of Jehovah. The rivers give way to Him. What happened in Egypt, even Israel, itself when they did not please God.
    Only those who actually read and understand their bibles will see this.

    “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from…

  46. HH I am afraid you shot your self in the foot with this one. You are already seen as aloof, arrogant, not one of us by some sections of society, this decision not to attend reinforces that. Also Zambia is quite a religious country with large groups of pipo participating and you don’t go? Your advisors are wrong. Some times mixing with the suffering masses helps.

  47. Our God is an awesome God and let us all remember that He is the Supreme Being. II Chronicles 15:2-4 was written to a people, like us, who had made a covenant with God: (ours is Zambia is a Christian Nation)
    The Lord is with you while you are with Him. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will forsake you. For a long time Israel has been without the true God, without a teaching priest, and without law; but when in their trouble they turned to the Lord God of Israel, and sought Him, He was found by them.
    God has certainly heard us and lets all stand as one people in showing our faith to God. HH is just one man who is lost and doesn’t believe in God and unfortunately his plns are not God’s plans. God has not and will not forget Zambia. Watch the good…

  48. I think a national indaba as proposed the other day would be more beneficial or rather, of practical use. After prayers, which by the way are always offered daily by any true christian, then what is the way forward? That we put away our whisky bottles, corrupt ways, lies, deceit, and extravagance the following Monday?? Who will monitor that not only were the prayers answered but actually adhered to? I think if we followed up these prayers with a citizens forum, I think that would be more relevant or useful.

  49. We wont miss HH and his Bantustan. We shall pray for him though as we are different from him and so that the satanic grip on him can be loosened. As for ruling, let him wait until 2098.

  50. HH could be right. The Bible at Exodus 20:7 clearly states: “Do not use my name for evil purposes, for I, the LORD your God, will punish anyone who misuses my name”. God detests hypocrisy!

  51. l iam surprised the seventh day adventist have accepted and have comfirmed attending the prayers but surely a person who claims to be an elder in the SDA is acting contrally .please pastor siamaundu strip this man off the eldership he will bring shame to your church.he belong to the under world.

  52. “Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler,
    and whoever is led astray by it is not wise”. Proverbs 20:1. The unwise shall converge on the 18th Oct.

  53. Amos 3:3,” Do two walk together unless they have agreed to do so? Light and darkness can not walk together. The children of isreal cried to God and he answered them. What’s wrong with the president to declare prayers to God? Unless if it was an insulting competition, you would have joined . prayers is a challenge . Joshua said “me and my family choose to worship God if you don’t want choose whatever you want . So choose what you want and face the consequences of your choice.

    • Ulichambe najala; So your thinking is all about negativity. What prayers are you requesting for, when PF is busy brutalizing their opponents. What fasting when people barely having a meal a day? May be the prayers should be for courage to face interviews at the global stage

  54. Anyone who reject this day of prayer is showing where he belongs. Even if pf caused the problem or not. If the president declares to go to God in prayer as a nation. We have no option but to prayer. Let it be told that prayers is the sign of humbleness. So anyone who is not humble will shun prayers.

    • A drunkard and violence promoting president telling the nation to pray and after prayers he continues to kill innocent people drink excessively. Such are the modern christian characters.

  55. The Calibre of most bloggers on this site leaves a lot to be desired. No wonder we have a government of tossers. HH is just being assertive by stating exactly how he sees things and what he wants. How do you explain chartering a plane for $300,000 when the country is in problems, and you call for prayers. Who are you fooling, only Gullible Zambians. Zambians you need to change the way you behave towards these politicians, if you want Zambia to progress. You are their masters and not servants.

  56. I personally do not care much about prayers especially at a national level. Just think about it, we have been a Christian nation for such a long time and the suffering for our people is just increasing. Is it really true and honest that we need such prayer or we need to work hard and put up measures that work for our country. We have serious issues affecting the nation and the president has been keeping quiet about them, yet he calls for prayers? Come on people we need the govt to work and not this mediocre of prayers. People should have their own prayers and relationship with God, it must not be our business. Lungu and his cabinet are simply trying to divert our attention. Do people really think prayers will solve the problems this country is facing! No wonder we remain poor because we…

  57. ANYWAY I UNDERSTAND HH COZ HE IS NOT A POLITICAL LEADER BUT A BUSINESS MAN AND IF HE WILL BE THE PRESIDENT FOR ZAMBIA HE WILL SALE ZAMBIA COZ A BUSINESSMAN ONLY THINK OF SALING AND BUYING.

  58. Comment:ba hh muleicefyako,u ll lose nothing by attending da prayers n its not abt ecl bt atleast have respect for our God please.u can even attend from where u congregate from its a national day of prayers,we r not saying u should attend at da same place wit da president jst swallow yo pride we kno u have money.And for u followers of hh plz its up to u to choose between God n hh jst join us on dat day.

  59. Leave the Bible out of this! Here is a human being who became Pope…excerpt:

    …At the same time, government leaders must do everything possible to ensure that all can have the minimum spiritual and material means needed to live in dignity and to create and support a family, which is the primary cell of any social development. In practical terms, this absolute minimum has three names: lodging, labour, and land; and one spiritual name: spiritual freedom, which includes religious freedom, the right to education and all other civil rights.

    For all this, the simplest and best measure and indicator of the implementation of the new Agenda for development will be effective, practical and immediate access, on the part of all, to essential material and spiritual goods: housing, dignified…

    • cont’d…

      dignified and properly remunerated employment, adequate food and drinking water; religious freedom and, more generally, spiritual freedom and education. These pillars of integral human development have a common foundation, which is the right to life and, more generally, what we could call the right to existence of human nature itself.

      Pope Francis, UN-GA 2015

  60. Lungu’s PF is like a drunkard parent who spends his monthly wages in a bars with prostitutes and listening to live music. He then goes back to his poverty /hunger striken home and asks his family to go to church to pray so that God can drop some manna from heaven. Utter stupidity and a mockery of God! God helps those who help themselves!

  61. And this Man even dreams of becoming a President. I thought he had matured by now…alas…still with his under 5 mentality. HH will never be the President of Zambia…period. If it was never meant to be,it will never be.

    HH over promising
    HH is a pathetic Liar

    2016 vote PF ( Edgar )

    I thank you

  62. It’s this same Christian nation hoax that foxy FTJ used to hoodwink the gullible Zambians whilst he looted the treasury and grabbed other people’s wives. Absolutely disgusting!

  63. Nobody in their right senses expected Icilema to attend the holy function as Icilema owes allegiance to forces other than the TRINITY!

  64. 2016 we are retiring this HH man once and for all.. this is it…..wrong move bwana HH…….

    So HH doesn’t believe in God……..what a shame…this Man needs deliverance

    Anyway
    2016 vote PF ( Edgar )

    I thank you

  65. @the Observer: I wish you had completed yo statements. I totally agree with you. In the midst of all such real problems, the only thing the president can think of is “national” prayers and fasting!! We are already a “Christian” nation although we use pangas and other offensive weapons during by-elections; we are so corrupt as a nation where for 3 consecutive years RDA was being run from Statehouse with a board chairman without any board and without any audit but millions of euro bond dollars were being paid out to contractors; where the Govt was being represented by ministers at funerals of copper thieves called gerabos. To be honest, I wish president was ka Miles Sampa or Guy Scott. We need a practical person. The rest of the world will soon be laughing at us.

  66. H.H
    The bible is very clear that we must put trust only in God alone because there is nothing impossible with him.
    JEREMIAH 29 V 1.
    When the Israelists encountered difficulties, MOSES prayed and Joshua did the same.
    Your refusal to attend prayers is done in bad faith and it is you are like a person who can,t forgive and reconcile.
    Each time i see you,all what i see is bitterness on your face, and for how long.

  67. Talk about putting final nails in your coffin. This will come back and bite HH’s behind next year. What’s wrong with just attending then criticising afterwards? The sooner this chap gets rid of his advisers the better for UPND.

  68. I will go for prayers when my bishops and other men of God call for them. Not these pompous arrogant Self-serving wasteful drunkard mafiosi characters like kaizer Lungu kambwili chama and mumbi phiri. I personally refuse to be used in the use of God’s name for political posturing /mockery

  69. ndobo October 2, 2015 at 6:08 am
    As I quote you
    “What prayers naimwe? Us who drink with chagwa know that he is a Muslim not Christian,,, and Zambia is a Christian nation,,,,so the question is are we praying to Allah with a bottle of jamesson in one hand or what??”. Ekupena uku…BUT don’t show your alliance to Satanism of hh. Just join your father hh as WE are going to pray for the nation. We are going to ask GOD also that he avoids giving Zambia a leadership of the type of hh. We shall pray for hh’s failure to rule over a declared Christian nation Zambia.
    Even ECL knew that hh would never repent because hh is non Godly. We Christians are Lovers of our neighbours even if the neighbour is Muslim or pagan.

  70. HH the supreme leader of UPND is worshipped by those are supporting his boycott of prayers. National prayers can heal, reconcile and can bring harmony among the people in the country, hence, when achieved people will work hard and bring about the change the country needs for it to prosper. If HH has rejected this then that’s the end of him to ever becoming the President of Zambia also called the end game in chess.HH would have being wiser not to comment on the prayers if he knew he was not going to attend than bring himself under scrutiny…

  71. There is no way you can listen to someone crying about reconciliation and prayers after threatening people left right and center to crush them like a tonne of bricks etc… Wako ni wako…. and the list goes on…. To make it worse all of them calling for it will b nursing serious hangovers especially jameson him self. it is a mockery indeed!

  72. I THINK HH HAS MISSED THE POINT. PRAYER IS TIME TO TALK TO GOD. IF HH THINKS EL IS THE WRONG GUY THEN PRAY FOR HIM. AND THIS PRESENTS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO ASK GOD TO HELP EL AND SAVE HIM FROM THE ERRORS HE IS MAKING IF ANY. ARE YOU SAYING YOU WILL NOT EVEN APPROACH GOD BECAUSE ONE OF HIS CREATURES IS MAKING A MISTAKE? AND MIND YOU ZAMBIANS ARE VERY RELIGIOUS “CHRISTIAN”. ANYONE WHO DISSUADES THEM FROM PRAYING TO GOD WILL IMMEDIATELY BE IDENTIFIED AS A SATANIST. HH HAS ALREADY BEEN SUFFERING FROM THAT LABEL AND MY ADVICE TO HIM IS NOT TO TAKE THAT IDENTITY ANY FURTHER. WE MAY BE SUFFERING NOW. BUT TO IGNORE A CALL FOR PRAYER WILL NOT BE TAKEN KINDLY. DAVID IN PSALMS 122:1 SAID “I WAS GLAD WHEN THEY SAID TO ME, LET US GO TO THE HOUSE OF THE LORD” . BUT HH SAYS “the event is a waste of…

  73. Psalm 122:1
    A song of ascents. Of David. ”I rejoiced with those who said to me, “Let us go to the house of the LORD.”
    .In Zambia any one who opposes to Christian values digs his or her own grave trust me.HH instead of mourning kindly call for one and put conditions

  74. At the turn 50 years, jubilee, the ‘computer program’ for Zambia should have upgraded from (A) to (B) :

    (A) 1964 > KK > UNP[ I ] > INDEPENDENCE.

    (B) 2014 > HH > UNP[ D ] > DEVELOPMENT.

    But we chose

    (C) 2014 > EL > PF > PRAYER , FASTING.

    …and the Countrys Computer programme for development has crushed. The Church know that without vision people perish but still could not see this and advise their members to vote for somebody with a vision.

  75. He who fears the LORD for not wisdom but because the do not worship him, have issues. Or another “god” we have JESUS our Lord and savior.

    Viva Jesus LORD or LORDs.

  76. we dont need some to tell us that this man is a satanist
    look at the way he was vomiting these words on radio without hiding his evilness

  77. ONLY THE ANTI-CHRIST,FREE MASONS,JESUITS AND EARTHISTS OF MODERN PAGANISM WILL REFUSE PRAYERS
    I would like not to miss on to comment on HH’s anti Christs’ attitude;no wonder why refuse to honor God almighty in any way.IF IT WERE HIM WHO WOULD HAVE CALLED PRAYERS EVERY zAMBIAN OF ALL RACE MUST BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
    jONAH WAS SENT BY GOD TO NINEVEH IN THAT CITY EVEN IF YOU WERE OPOSING THE KING WHO DECLARED A FAST EVERY ONE HAS TO OBSERVE;AND THEY ORBSERVED AND THEY REPENTED AND GOD HEALD THEM AND THEIR LAND .
    bUT WHO IS HH AND NAWAKWINAKAWALA LEAVE THEM IF THEY ARE IS ANTI-CHRIST GOD ALWAYS USE
    THE UN EXPECTED,HUMBLE,MEEK,LOWLY,DOWN TO EARTH,UNKNOWN,UNRECOGNISED;GOD IS THE DEALER OF HUMAN HEART,HE UNDERSTAND US BETTER THAN OUR SELVES.
    IF HH AND NAKAWALA HAVE THE CRISIS ZAMBIA HAS NO…

  78. in the last days the anti-christ shall arise they will like and worship money,power and will be pompus like their father Lucifer Quote Isaiah 14:10-30 in a nut shell verse 11thy pomp is brought down to the ground which didst weaken the nation;for thy hast said in thine heart,i will ascend into heaven,i will exault my thrown above the stars of God,I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north,and I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;i will be like the most High;Yet you shall not even rise an inch,but you shall be brought down to hell,tothe sides of the pit.

    watch out who you are supporting atted the prayer even Edgar who called prayers need deliverance and to be served

  79. I read the comments and cannot believe why Zambians are writing. Zambians can be bought for their faith in God. Religion should be private – it’s between you and your God. And if you are a good Christian, put in power by the grace of God, then your role should be to serve. Nothing works in Zambia and everybody says “Mulungu ndiye aziba”. Well He doesn’t if you do not meet him halfway. Prayer is nothing without you embarking on resolving the problem with God’s prayers on the list.

    HH

  80. It is not surprising to hear that from Kainde. It was expected because with him anything to do with President Lungu and the PF is lemon! No wonder he will………………………………..!!!

  81. Comment:this morning am told you will be praying for three things on this day of yours.1. that there will heavy rains that are likely to destroy some things in Zambia. 2. that sda church should join the rest of the lost and decieved churches to worship on sunday. 3. that there’s oil between kafue and mazabuka God is to show which point exactly. am told th8s was discussed on radio around 04hrs. go ahead and pray to Your God.

  82. I am a christian but I am not in support of people not facing the reality of the situation by ‘orchestrating’ a prayer and fasting event which won’t solve anything, in case you don’t know we already pray and fast for Zambia. When your car has run out of fuel do you get on your knees and start praying/fasting – NO!!! You already know were the closest service station is and you drive there to refuel.
    Our country has run out of ‘fuel’ and our leaders should have foreseen this but they are so short sighted all they care about is talking about each other. If you can handle the pressure let someone who is capable take over the country. STOP WASTING OUR TIME!!!

  83. Comment: Hide my ID.
    THE CHURCH IS NOT HELPING THE PRESIDENT. RECONCILIATION & FORGIVENESS INVOLVES TWO PERSONS OR PARTIES. NOW IF THE PRESIDENT CAME OUT IN OPEN TO THE ZAMBIANS THOSE WHO ARE RECONCILING OR FORGIVING EACH OTHER AND TO TELL WHAT WRONGS. IS THE OFFENDED PERSON(S)/PARTY (IES) AGREED OR ACCEPTED THE OFFER??
    NOW I SEE THE CHANGE FROM RECONCILIATIO/FORGIVENESS TO REPENTANCE & PRAYER AND FASTNG.
    PEOPLES WOULD NOT ASK SO MUCH QUESTIONS ON THE DATE.

  84. Christianity is personal leave HH alone . do you know the life of EL in that false humility face shows. CHRISTIANS YOU SHOULD BE CAREFUL FOLLOWING AND PRAYING WITHOUT PROPER SPIRITUAL DIRECTION OTHER’S YOU FIND yourself in 666.

  85. From some comments that I have read about National day of prayer and fasting, it’s amazing how some Zambians exhibit their ignorance about the Bible. Some are even claiming 18th day is 666 because 6+6+6 = 18. Who told you? 18 is not equal to six hundred and sixty six. I know if the president said we pray on 17th you were going to say 17 = 666-1. This is just carnality. What has simple arithmetic got to do with prayer. You don’t understand Eschatology? You yourself may be operating under the spirit of antichrist 666 by opposing the sincere call by our president to pray and fast for our country. Please hide your ignorance and deception while true believers pray.

  86. Comment:Ifyakulya ubushiku bafimwena kumalushi, pipo of God, a forced leadership doesn’t require God, wenever u do prayer & fasting, it is a command of which God’s wrath come upon such pipo. We cannot bring unit if God said pipo of God, this thing has to happen to fulfil what had written by God the one you are crying to, thank you

  87. My dear friends could you kindly read bible properly, preferably King James version. God’s wrath doesn’t come this way. In fact it is God Himself who gave counsel to His people to pray and seek His face in times of difficulties saying, ” If my people which are called by my Name shall humble themselves, turn away from their wicked ways and seek my face then I will hear from Heaven and will heal their land (2Chronicles 7:14). In the old Bible days kings like Ahab, Jehoshaphat asked their people to do exactly what our president has done and when the people prayed God answered them. Of course it is only sensible for all that are living in sin for example stealing, adultery , fornication, witchcraft, satanism, corruption, hatred, bribery etc. to pray a prayer of repentance and surrender…

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