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I don’t need Sangomas to win in 2016-President Lungu

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President Lungu addressing a Youth Rally at Freedom   Park
President Lungu addressing a Youth Rally at Freedom Park

President Edgar Lungu has rubbished reports that his working visit to the Copperbelt was meant to facilitate the arrival of Sangomas from Malawi into State House to help him win the 2016 general elections.

Addressing a well attended Youth Rally at Kitwe’s Freedom Park late Saturday, President Lungu said he is a Christian who does not practice witchcraft.

He said the PF will win the next election through work without the help of Sangomas.

‘As old as I am, how can I bring Sangomas to State House? Jesus is my Sangoma. I go to Church, whilst my enemies are talking Jesus is lifting me up,’ President Lungu said.

President Lungu also accused the mine workers unions of working against his 2016 re-election bid by decampaigning the PF following the job losses in the sector.

He said he has information that some mine union officials are failing to negotiate favourable separation packages for their retrenched members because they want the PF removed from government in 2016.

President Lungu said it is the responsibility of the unions to protect the interest of the workers.

‘You should go and sit down with the investors, if you hear job losses, you Mr Nkole (Chishimba), go and sit down with the investor, you tell them, iwe we musungu, iwe mwenye, iwe umu Chinese, don’t fire our people at will unless they show real cause to let go of the workers,’ President Lungu said.

He added, ‘All I am getting is that these unions are just saying, Lungu tukamufumyapo mu 2016 (we will remove Lungu in 2016), uko kutumpa, (that is foolishness)’.

President Lungu said his Government will not tolerate the unfair dismissal of workers by the mine investors.

‘Yesterday I had a chance to meet the CEO of KCM and he assured me that jobs will be safeguarded and they said they will come back and talk to MUZ and find a way out if the economic challenges persists. Mining companies know that without the workers and Government, there would be no mining, we are partners in mining industry.’

At the same rally, President Lungu launched a veiled attack on Matero Member of Parliament Miles Sampa who resigned as Commerce Deputy Minister last Friday.

President Lungu said promotions in his Government are earned through hard work.

‘Ningumfwa kuli mamukulu bano nabema ati iyo taletu polomota, ‘I have heard some characters saying he is not promoting us, Mr Kambwili, tenombalinefye nabikilepo umwaice Kampyongo? (Mr Kambwili isn’t it just recently that I promoted the young Kampyongo)?
He added, ‘Me I promote if you are working well. I don’t even look at tribe because for me, my tribe is Zambia. I will promote you if you are working hard, moreover promotion is never forced. Promotion has to be earned, if you work hard, you will find yourself in cabinet.’

President Lungu also warned UPND Vice President against provoking him.

‘GBM elantendeka ine, ichi muntu caya mu UPND, chasanga ama founder members, bachibika Vice President, apilibuka ayamba ukwiba ba PF ati Lungu nashitisha PF, nomba ine kumwipusha ati iwe ulishipuba (GBM is provoking me, this person goes to UPND, he finds founder members, he is made Vice President and he turns again accusing me of selling the PF, I tell him that he is a fool.’
‘GBM has been found that he is a big body, small mutima, me I have been found that I am a small body, big mutima, that is the difference. There is no logic in his appointment as Vice President in the UPND because there founder members there who have been sidelined.’

At the same rally, President Lungu announced that a decision has been made by the courts of law over the ownership of the controversial Black Mountain.

He revealed that the 10 percent stake that ZCCM-IH has in the Black Mountain will be shared equally with the local small scale miners known as Jerabos.

PF Deputy General Mumbi Phiri makes her point during a PF   Youth Rally at Freedom Park
PF Deputy General Mumbi Phiri makes her point during a PF Youth Rally at Freedom Park
Copperbelt Minister Mwenya Musenge speaking at a Youth   Rally at Freedom Park
Copperbelt Minister Mwenya Musenge speaking at a Youth Rally at Freedom Park
Chishimba Kambwili at a Youth Rally in Kitwe
Chishimba Kambwili at a Youth Rally in Kitwe
A Kitwe youth PF cadre giving a solidarity speech at the  PF Youth Rally
A Kitwe youth PF cadre giving a solidarity speech at the PF Youth Rally

58 COMMENTS

  1. Mr. President, don’t address Miles Sampa thru’ rallies it is unethical. And after all he wrote that he wants to work by strengthening your party so why do you have to attack him over hear-say.

    • I agree with his sentiments about GBM. UPND supporters are hell bent on calling PF cadres and members as kaponyas but they forget the biggest PF kaponya, GBM, is now their Vice President! In any case Lungu is very smart. Ask a Guy Scot. He will tell you about it all.

    • Miles Sampa can go and join HH and UPND. He is a nonentity and good riddance for PF. At least HH will now have someone in UPND to compete with in “The Biggest Brat” section in politics! Let’s see who can throw the toys farther from the pram!

    • How dull is this PF bandit fake government , you spend more time on talking out useless stuff . Fix the economy not busy talking to people who are stuffing because of your corruption and dullness . 5 more years under this government people will Zambians will be refuges to Europe on boats .

    • Zambians start making boats for refugee visa in Europe , 5 more years under this government . You don’t need a PHD to see how useless this government has become , the spend more time on talking about shite stuff rather then tying to fix the economy and stop blaming China’s slowing economy , WE are not Chinese , we are Zambias so stop blaming Chinese economy , that’s why you got ministry of finance and plan 10years in front . Your old finance minister has been there for 4 years now and he knew chinise economy will slow down . Euro bonds now $10 billion so the will be asking for there money back plus interest .

    • But nomba kutump uku nomba Edgar, why so much insele. You think ifwe tatwaishiba insulting? Calling GBM ati Chi GBM, and Miles Sampa as Mukukula. Umu guys Miles wrote a clean-short-respectiful resignation letter, he doesn’t deserve insulted.

    • Some of us love our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ, dearly. Do not use His Name in vain like those staged prayers of 18th October, 2015. Why mention the Name, Jesus in the same sentence with insults to other people. God can not be mocked, our leaders have already been judged for playing the harlot.

  2. But kwena ka Lungu ka puba. The whole rally was full of hate speech and no meaningful messages of hope. It was full of UPND this UPND that instead of addressing real issues affecting the nation.

    • Imagine… the speech is about Miles Sampa, GBM and trade unions. As for GBM that is a contentious issue Mr. Pres. You yourself have imported Dora Siliya, Kaingu, etc into PF. What about the founder members of PF?
      Don’t let GBM work on your nerves just concentrate on running the affairs of the country.

    • Ati Jesus lifting Edgar up…? Are you kidding me, Jesus lifting you up to insult people like that including in-sighting cadres to treat investors in a racial way. Ati ama Chinese, Ba Mwenye, we musungu wee.
      What was those prayers he organised for cadres for, just 1 week and back to hate speeches. God will vote you out, Lesa ni Malyotola.

    • And yet it was just a week or so ago they were mu church ati reconciliation. Thats why ifwe we refused to ba associated with such nonsense. It was just a gimmick to win the affection of the usual docile zambians who freeze to the ground on their knees the moment they hear jesus. Buti kwena religion yalitonaula. This jesus needs to go back to his people. We want to stay with our gods abena chiuta, abena ngombe ilede, aben mkhulu mkulu so. And dont tell me its the same God. They are different aspects of the infinite.

    • Yayayaya. Nooooo. SHUWA SHUWA,
      The entire president sinking this low! How can a leader satirically boast about the size of his manhood. Was he going to the loo with Big Body small mutima? One ones may not know but thats what he meant. Sorry ba GBM.

      Now this is what I said when i was hated that Lungu is a cadre fullstop. Hes a Chikomeme Chankuyu for Zambia. Empty with ants in his head but looked good for nothing. No economic brain.

      For Sure there was leakage at UNZA even in law. All he could do was steal and win no cases. Watch this space

    • @ Pretty
      for sure am telling you. OK if he wasn’t insulting and Ba GBM responds that “ECL should ask Tasila and the Bana Tasila how big his mutima is because they have received food from him and seen his big Mutima, before ECL became Presido. See how he will react. Which is true they have received food but maybe food also.

      This is exactly why a preside shouldn’t use such language. LOL

  3. I thought he went there for government work especially on economic and mining revival of the province? Has he been to Luanshya yet? He discussing sangomas?

    • Yessy. But if you recall Nawakwi pointed out it was to mobilise his party. Discussing sangomas and attacking opponents is easy as he doesn’t need a written speech.

  4. @ Cut Power, please say something my good friend. Is Lungu in order to start demonizing HH a few days after ND of P&F. One thing is certain for sure. Lungu can do anything for power and if could goto Nigeria with RB to seek financial help during campaigns what about now. The sangoma story could be true considering that he is even campaigning which is the sole purpose of bringing the sangomas to state house. Why move state to Kitwe for premature campaigns? Cut Power

  5. so after ECL’s visit how many economic and social issues will he have addressed? is this a campaign rally or meeting miners and other things

  6. Looks like we are back to the Kaunda days. Everybody is “stupit, stupit, fuulls”. The president does not seem to have the capacity to think beyond politics. He is hard-wired to political campaigns.

  7. Ati we will reduce travelling. Whenever a politician is away from home he is paid allowances. So nomba kulabombelafye away from home to collect allowances. We are still spending on you

    • You add his security detail, his presidential motorcade, his staff, the ministers etc that’s all allowances and hotel accommodation.

  8. What a foo.lish President we have in Zambia. He was elected to look after and protect Zambians BUT he is now saying it is the Unions that should protect Zambians! How? Unions dont even any power over Investors – it is the Zambian Govt that control Investors!!
    Please who made this man Lungu a President – I am actually annoyed and he is stupid! Abdicating his duties and leaving Unions at the mercy of unscrupulous investors! Kafumyeni ka ma ***** Lungu….foolish ka ma Old man!

  9. From prayer & fasting to sarcasm.. Things are becoming tougher for pf. Every pf member is in an irritable mood.

  10. Lovely! Your humble president who only 10 days ago had the whole lot of you praying and fasting for reconciliation. By the way, unions can only work with what they have. If a business is put under care and maintainance or shuts down how does the union reverse this? It’s you apresident who can reverse this? How? Fix the collapsed economy,,,, the falling Kwacha, the load shedding, the crippling debt which you have continued to incur. Instead you are just busy politicking, blame anything you can lay your hands on,,, the unions, GBM, UPND, HH, Sampa, the Chinese, the Indians. It never has anything to do with you or your government,,,,, it’s always THEIR FAULT. Man! Please do yourself and the country a favour,,,, SCRAM!!!!

  11. What a dull leader we have in State House….this is clear evidence that your so called national prayer day was an utter joke and a side show….only the docile masses believed it like the white man has fo*led them with this selfsame “faith” called Christianity. “I go to Church, whilst my enemies are talking Jesus is lifting me up”….this is the caliber of myopic leadership we have cursed ourselves with; this is why I always state that religion self distraction of one’s culture.

  12. After calling for a day of Prayers and Fasting and this is what we get rewarded with- insults. To be perfectly honest this dude is only concerned with his re-election and not sorting out the current problems. The reason he is on the CB is to assess whether PF is losing popularity as per Kambwili’s leaked information a few weeks back.

  13. THE MAN CALLS HIMSELF A CHRISTIAN AND AT THE SAME TIME WITH THE SAME MOUTH HE IS INSULTING OTHER PEOPLE. ONLY A PERSON WHOSE SPIRITUAL LEADERS ARE SANGOMAS CAN DO SUCH A THING. THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT WE SHOULD “LOVE AND PRAY FOR OUR ENNEMIES.” BIBLE OF SANGOMAS IT IS THE OPPOSITE.

  14. I think His Excellency should not have touched the resignation of Miles Sampa, he has made a big mistake. Miles was very respectful is his resignation letter and promised to work for the party. Now how does Miles feel that HEECL has spoken in such a manner…And he was also appointed campaign manager for Kasama bye election. So now Miles knows where HEECL stands. The cordial relationship has gone sour. Hope he continues in his role as campaign manager for Kasama bye election. We wait and see the outcome of his sentiments.

  15. Alungu anabwera kucokerae ku Lusaka. Pofika ku CB anatukana anzake. You see why ME I refused to attend the 18th October kadabrakadabra Plllrayers. Such hatred for your fellow beings is worse than I thought about this “humble” man.
    for once I thought Sampa humbled himself by resigning quietly but insulting him aint good ba President.

  16. Pf is one term project. Youths register as voters so you vote out pf in 2016. Our children can no longer study overseas courses because they have become expensive due to depreciated kwacha which may reach K20 per dollar by end of 2015.

  17. No matter how Lusaka Times take side with PF, it is now foregone conclusion that the party will lose 2016 polls. HH 2016

  18. As a radicalist,PF should have been forced out of power two months ago!Should they miraculously win next year,most Zambians will be much better off to be refuges in neighbouring countries!This is a pathetic regime composed of faecial primitive creatures !

  19. Why is it that PF is allowed to have rallies at WILL, and yet the opposition are arrested even when they are having party meetings, or when they give political statements? This is Zambia, full of imbeciles. This same insulting Kaponya Lungu is bound to win the elections in 2016. What a curse that still hangs on the neck of Zambia. The future of posterity has already been sold by these pathetic failures (PF).

  20. It looks like there are a lot of opposition guys on Internet and don’t even vote but just noise all the time. Another blogger talked about GBM being the biggest kaponya and being number 2 in command line but all I see are negative votes without giving reasons .

  21. We are truly back in the UNIP days…I hope BA Edgar is ready to face the law for the shares his giving the jeraboes as if they belong to his father.

    • Iwe ka Kaluwa,
      Can you tell me any day when KK stood up and addressed the people in the same manner as your ka Lungu is doing? Dont say it is the same as UNIP days, that is an insult to the father of this nation – KK.
      Stop the bushit !!!

    • @Kaluwa. I agree with you entirely. This man Lungu is taking us back to the stupid ***** era of Kaunda. Instead of telling the people how he is going to solve the many problems they are facing he wasted time insulting his perceived political enemies and using racist language on foreign investors. These investors brought in their money and does he expect them to make losses just to please him on his incompetence? This Lungu is very far from presidential material. He is such an embarrassment to the country in the eyes of the international community. Please Zambians kick this misfit out in 2016 before Zambia becomes another Zimbabwe.

  22. Why re UPND bloggers using Bemba names?Is it that u re no longer proud of being Tonga? Be like Proud,coilard,lukulu voice nd mweemba,these re proud Tongas and dedicated supporters of UPND, a Southern Province party. Dont hide in names like malama,bwalya,mulenga,phiri and banda.We re one Zambia one nation!!!

    • Since its not official presidential campaign time, your Excellency, whatever you say and do remember that you are saying it or doing it on behalf of the more than 16Million Zambian men, women and children domiciled in Zambia and abroad. Are we being encouraged to use vulgar language (Unions and GBM) or use racist remarks (defining the investors in our mines)?

  23. Cadreism at its best bwana Lingu. Presidency is usually tested in such times of difficulties. ECL cannot stand the heat. If Zambia had a war and economic difficulties simultaneously where presidency would be required to take tough decisions would ECL handle it amidst the citizens talking about literary everything. I doubt.

  24. Well done Mr President.
    The mining unions and politicians are the cause of turmoil in the mining sector.
    I know that you are capable of steering the Zambian Ship away from the formidable rock ahead Sir.

  25. LUNGU IS VERY ILLOGICAL. WHAT HARD WORK AND GOOD QORK DID DORA SILIYA DO BEFORE BEING PROMOTED. MILES IS A HARD WORKER AND LUNGU IS DOING MORE DAMAGE TO HIS WEAK IMAGE ALREADY BY ATTACKING MILES WHO CHOSE TO STAND ON PRINCIPLE THAN TO GET ALITTLE PIECES OF COPPER. THE SANGOMA STORY SOUNDS VERY TRUE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS WHY LUNGU EVEN WENT TO MFUWE AFTER THE ELECTION IN JANUARY. WE ALL KNOW LUNGU BELIEVES IN SANGOMAS. EVEN PF MEMBERS KNOW THAT IS TRUE AND ADMIT LUNGU HAS A SANGOMA FROM MALAWI AND TANZANIA.

  26. HH worshipers full of jealous and envy come on guys insult, let the hatred ooze out of you insult the Zambian President show us what HH has taught you

  27. Why should you be bothered about who Edgar appoints in P if you are UPND? Concentrate on GBM who took over from original UPND members. Those who believe in sangomas are the ones who probably consult them otherwise how would they know or even think that such nonsensicals work

  28. look,ECL knows something about sampa. look at the tone of the letter from sampa… with immediate effect. that speaks billions. forget not sampa and ECL were in court few months ago over the presidency of PF and that almost costed PF the ruling rope. thanks to the OP they helped and HH lost by a margin. but ECL and SAMPA have not been good at each other at all. Sampa must have some force( Scott and the band) pushing him from somewhere and ECL is aware of that. watch this space

  29. NOW ZAMBIANS GET THE REAL HATE SPEECH FROM PRESIDENT EDGAR CHAGWA KALE LUNGU. WE HAVE LONG TOLD YOU THAT THERE IS NO SUBSTANCE FROM PF. LUNGU IS NOW SHAKING LIKE A SMALL SCHOOL CALLED TO THE OFFICE OF THE SCHOOL MASTER. LUNGU IS SEEING THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL. THE PF BOAT IS REALLY SINKING. THE TITANIC IS SINKING. PF GOVERNMENT WILL SOON BE HISTORY. COUNTRYWIDE, ZAMBIANS HAVE SHOWN REJECTION FOR PF AND LUNGU. ZAMBIANS NOW WANT TO USHER INTO GOVERNMENT A BRAND NEW GOVERNMENT AND A BRAND NEW PARTY. VIVA UPND VIVA! VIVA HH VIVA!

  30. Ala – hh supporters have so much hate scrutinizing everything; it is always easy to comment when you are spectator and not in the playing field! bottom line no president or man can change your story if you dont want to work hard!! in these trying times others are making it and enjoying, because of focus , stop blaming game and work hard and make it for you self ala

  31. Don’t need sangoma’s to win the 2016 general elections? I bet you will be consulting them to find out why you lost

  32. Comment: The majority of the politicians visit sangomas. Its a lie that one can be in cabinet without visiting sangomas. Only God knows whether Lungu visit sangomas or not becoz he is omnipresent. Those politicians only visit sangomas during the dark hours of the night. During the day they pretend to be christians.

  33. You will recall that Hon Davies Mwila resigned from government just as Miles has done. We did not hear Late President Sata attacking Mwila .
    Why should Pres Lingu attack Miles maybe based on some bad hearted people feeding him with lies. He should emulate Sata who never castigated Davies for resigning his position as D/Minister of Defence,even that time people speculated on the reasons for his resignation.
    After reconciliation we expect our President to preach love and embrace everybody even his perceived enemies.His language is also not good,he is a father who should be a role model.please Ba Pres don’t rise against Miles,he campaigned for your chawama candidate and he is young,don’t try and destroy him.thinhs might just backfire for you.domt listen to haters.you have invited JEsus…

  34. The youths will not respect you,your language is not good,it is cheap.Let us lead by example.Stop preaching hatred.What has Sampa done to you .you should have just thanked him for his contributions and wish him well.
    Abantu bakwa Sata ninshi wabapatila?
    If you did not agree with Sata why did you not resign ,after his death you turn against what he stood for.only when you are looking for votes,then you use his name.you bring Kaingu who tore Sata’s speech,give him a big position,Dora all her insults against Sata,Liato,list is endless .Kanshi what is your game plan

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