Movement for Multi-Party Democracy(MMD) President Nevers Mumba has urged Zambians to Protect the country when they are abroad. In a statement released to the media, the MMD leader said that international diplomacy and political maturity always dictates that when you are abroad, make sure you speak well of your country and never denigrate it even if you know that things may not be going well.
Below is the full statement
Fellow Zambians, international diplomacy and political maturity always dictates that when you are abroad, make sure you speak well of your country and never denigrate it even if you know that things may not be going well.
This same principle is what we all follow even in our families. We can call each other names and even fight, but we rise up to fight an outsider who calls us the same things that we call ourselves.
I have been invited to several international business fora with the most recent one in South Africa during the 5th Global Business Round-table on 13th March 2015 and my speech on that occasion is displayed below and many will see this is the principle I live by because I believe in it.
Zambian politicians should learn from opposition leaders of such parties as the Republican Party of the United States and the UK Independence Party (UKIP) and the Labour Party of the UK.
These parties may have viciously fought each other internally but never voice their differences outside the country. They keep their fights internal and show solidarity outside the country.
You can never hear them speak ill of their country or Presidents. Let us all mature and keep flying the Zambian flag and stand proud and free.
SPEECH BY DR. NEVERS SEKWILA MUMBA AT THE 5TH GLOBAL BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE ANNUAL CONFERENCE, SANDTON CONVENTION CENTRE, JOHANNESBURG, RSA
11-13TH MARCH 2015
By Dr Nevers Sekwila Mumba
Leader of Opposition Party – MMD and former Republican Vice-President, Zambia
REPAINTING A CONTINENT
Africa is a piece of art pinned against the minds and consciences of art lovers. Those with money and capacity to buy the paint and pay the painters are the ones who have presented today’s image of Africa to the world. This is a continent they scrambled for because of its unlimited resources at the Berlin Conference of 1884-85. They then painted the continent in colours that would favour their superiority over the inhabitants.
Today, we are battling with a distorted image of our continent and of ourselves which hangs heavily over our heads. It is in Summits like this when Africa’s best hearts and minds meet to undo the distortion of our continent’s image created over the years. We must repaint our continent in our own colours.
The way Africa is perceived by both the world and ourselves dictates how Africa performs in the next number of years. My assignment today is to highlight the effect of perception on the development of a people. We need to ask the necessary questions. Who painted the current picture of Africa and what was the intent of the resultant piece of art? In whose interest is this picture?
Today’s picture of Africa demands that we depend on foreign powers to live our lives. We depend on Europe, America, China, India and other developed nations to do for us things we can do for ourselves. My message has nothing to do with minimizing our role in the global community. Indeed we must participate in the global debate and economy but not at the expense of our local debate and economy. We should never only take from the Global debate and economy but we must contribute to it in real terms.
Not too long ago, the African Union in Addis Ababa received help from China to build the $200million headquarters for us. A commendable contribution, but I believe that if all the 54 OAU member states contributed only $3.7million each, we could have done it ourselves using African material, builders and engineers.
The Bible in John 19:17-22 clarifies my point.
… And Pilate wrote a title (introduction) also, and put it on the cross. And there was written, JESUS OF NAZARETH, THE KING OF THE JEWS.
Whosoever writes your introduction defines you and limits you according to the introduction as authored by them. Africa has been introduced by others and is therefore seen through their eyes.
It is time that Africa printed her own business cards. It is time Africa wrote her own books. It is time for Africa to sing her own songs. The Jews did not like the inscription on the cross but Pilate had written it and they could not take it down. Two thousand years later, we still declare that, not only is Jesus the King of the Jews, but he is also the King of Kings. This is the power of introduction.
To subjugate a people, you first have to distort or steal their identity. You have to mess with their introduction. The type of education you are given determines your ultimate identity and destiny. To introduce apartheid here in South Africa and to sustain it for as long as it was, the focus of the perpetrators was to dictate the type of education a black man could get and therefore limit his participation in the affairs of his nation. They brought an educational system which was designed to produce a disadvantaged African population.
The Minister of Native affairs at the time, the architect of apartheid Hendrik Verwoerd stated that:
There is no place for the Bantu in the European Community above the level of certain forms of labour… What is the use of teaching the Bantu Child Mathematics when he cannot use it in practice?
They have used camera and film to repeatedly brain-wash our view of ourselves. They allowed a few amongst us to stick out like middle fingers in order to divide us into thinking those who have failed to attain those heights are just lazy.
Our challenge is that someone has written our introduction and made us buy into it and has limited us for generations. We have been conformed to the vision our “masters” have carved out for us.
How do we correct this?
Re-orient ourselves. Re-educate ourselves. Re-write our educational books. Re-think our theology. Take responsibility for our future. We must be free to make our mistakes as we work our way up. We cannot be free until we can experiment ourselves out of this trap.
This is time to initiate Africa’s most ambitious educational project which should include up-skilling entire communities, all villages, compounds, shanties, suburbs and entire nation states in computer skills for instance. An educational system which highlights our values as a people.
An education which is original; An education which does not exhort the Queen of England above our own Zulu King. An Education which does not glorify everything done by Western powers and rubbishes the efforts being made by our people. An education which does not segregate based on who has an American accent and who does not. We must deliberately work towards these goals.
We must change our curricula and teach more about the Chirundu and Beit Bridges than the famous London Bridge. This project is long term, but must start now. The strategy must be clear and the African Union must incorporate this aspect in their 50 year strategic plan. We must scientifically strategize that the type of education we offer, the type of religion we teach, the type of films we watch and make about ourselves which should shape a new, positive mindset to effectively restore our dignity as a people. Money poured on paralyzed minds will continue to be wasted in Africa.
We must repaint Africa. We must introduce ourselves to ourselves and to the world. We must have a goal to score. We may have some of the best players on the pitch, but without a goal we shall not record any victory. When students go to a medical school, we expect to produce Doctors. This is because the studies are specially designed to produce a pre-determined product.
It is time for Africa to package for herself an educational culture that shall ultimately produce an enviable African, an African of our corporate dream, standing confidently, shoulder-to-shoulder with the best brains in the world.
The long term benefits of a massive education project cannot be overstated as a large chunk of perennial problems in Africa shall be solved. An educated population is more productive; investors are attracted by the availability of a large skilled workforce; Democracy flourishes and matures as citizens are better able to understand national issues and not be easily manipulated by corrupt leaders.
Civil wars are diminished because people have better things to do with their educated minds than take up arms. Crime reduces as people engage in productive activities. Wealth increases as Africans invent new ways to make money with their knowledge. Even the health of a nation improves as people get educated in hygiene and basic cleanliness. The positive benefits are incalculable.
We must not shrink from this project due to concerns on the high costs it shall impose on us. No matter how expensive, we must find the money to create relevant localized education in order to give Africa a massive leg up which will be good in long run. We must not just copy and paste foreign education systems. We must edit first and tailor-make our own by a process of amalgamation and experimentation according to our unique circumstances.
As we educate the African populace, we must simultaneously create enabling business environments within our individual countries. The time for Socialist centrally controlled economies has long past. We must embrace free markets and the private sector because they ultimately are the drivers of significant economic growth. Fast growing economies shall absorb into a productive workforce the millions of newly educated Africans we shall be churning out of our universities and colleges.
Each one of us in this room today, in this generation, have been handed a paint brush and paint, an opportunity to repaint the pictures of our individual countries to make up the full piece of art of a new Africa. An Africa which shall be the envy of the world; an Africa free from the stereo-typical image of violent ethnic and political conflict, poverty, AIDS and now Ebola, hunger, corruption, bad governance and under-development. An Africa that has left behind Stone Age Politics and modernized its political and economic structures.
We must repaint Africa.
We should each ask ourselves the question, now that I have an opportunity in my generation, what picture shall I paint of my country? What shall I do to help birth this new image of my country and contribute to the full beautiful art piece of a new Africa?
In these last few moments, kindly allow me now to paint the picture I have of my own nation of Zambia.
For the investor who is searching for high returns, Zambia offers one of the most liberal economic policies in the SADC region. Zambia offers a 50 year culture of political and social stability.
It is a nation whose borders could only have been designed by a supreme being as the bible says. A nation with only 14.5 million people, known the world over for their warmth; a country carved out from the centre of the Southern African region, a natural hub land-linked by eight sovereign nations with their combined populations presenting a huge market for any business, such as motor assembly plants, to set up its headquarters in Zambia.
It is a country of rare beauty, perched on a high plateau of moderate average annual temperatures of 21 Degrees Celsius and annual average rainfall of 1,270 millimeters and one of the most beautiful country-sides of a typical savanna country with breath-taking rivers and waterfalls like the Victoria Falls and abundant unspoilt wildlife.
It is a country with an abundance of most known mineral resources, the world’s fourth largest producer of copper and holds six percent of the world’s known reserves thereof. It is also the world’s second largest producer of cobalt and holds reserves of about 350,000 tonnes. Furthermore, Zambia is also famous for the abundance of other mineral deposits, including lead, zinc and gemstones such as emeralds, aquamarine, topaz, opal, agate and amethysts.
It is a country of abundant water resources, hosting 40% of the total water systems of the entire southern African sub-region with four major lakes and four major rivers plus numerous tributaries. It is a country of large expanses of fertile uncultivated land, a potential bread-basket to feed the entire Southern African region and beyond. We still have over 80% of our arable land unused and waiting to be exploited fully.
Zambia is a country waiting to be repainted into one of the most developed nations not only in Africa but in the world, currently undergoing massive transformation ignited by major infrastructure investment into the roads and bridges to unlock the massive potential of this great Central Southern African country.
I ask the question; what picture do you have of your country, of Africa? The brush and paint are now in your hands.
I thank you.
Dr Nevers Sekwila Mumba
Ba Dr Mumba are you addressing HH? If yes then this is a wrong forum and therefore you’re trying to gain cheap political mileage. All you could have done is talk to HH directly because I know you relate directly with him. Secondly, by issuing this statement now, by deliberate intent and meaning, you’re casting HH’s statement in the UK in very bad lightsstatement now, by deliberate intent and
HH Waumfwa!
This HH kid is fanatical about getting state power and will exploit any opportunity to attract support and sympathy to himself.
He lacks common sense and he’s extremely unpatriotic.
He is simply a dangerous political demagogue
All these people against HH are all novices in the business world. What businesses do they have to show for their claimed experience to comment on issues raised by HH? This arguement about what HH has now been reduced to a tribal conflict I think so.
That was a business forum HH attended and the guests wanted to know what potential Zambia has for investors to put their money in and what are some of the hinderances to doing business they should be aware of so that when comming to invest they should do that from an informed position.
If HH did not address the issues of red tape , the business guests were still going to wonder why Zambia with such an immense potential has a failing economy and a weakening currency. So they invited him in his capacity as a leader for a major…
BA INE WINE, I AM NO FAN OF NEVERS MUMBA BUT WHAT HE HAS SAID ABOUT HOW YOU PRESENT ZAMBIA ABROAD IS THE TRUTH. ZAMBIA IS EVEN NOT EVEN A COUNTRY ONE CAN CATEGORISE AS BAD. ZAMBIA HAS SCORED MANY ONES IN THE PAST, PRESENT AND INDEED WE ARE CERTAIN THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SCORE MORE IN THE FUTURE. BUT IT REALLY PAINS ME THAT ZAMBIANS THEMSELVES TALK ILL ABOUT THE COUNTRY EVEN ABROAD IN THE PRESENCE OF OTHER NATIONALS. HOW DOES ONE EXPECT TO ENCOURAGE VISITORS AND INVESTORS TO COME TO ZAMBIA WITH SUCH DE-CAMPAIGN. PLS, DON’T PUT US AT A DISADVANTAGE FOR US ABROAD WITH YOUR ILL-TALK ABOUT THE COUNTRY.
That was a long sermon.
I read it all. It is not against HH at all.
Investors know exactly what the situation is like in Zambia, in fact they have the means & ways to know far more than most of you on the ground. Therefore all these statements right across are just cheap political rhetoric.
No investor of any meaningful persuasion and who is going to rely on African politicians for business information is likely to be found abroad, there is however plenty of these within zambia, they go by the name of cadres.
I don’t agree with the Bemba culture of telling lies, even about your country under dictatorship and being led by thieves. These people want Zambians to be part of the crowds fleeing into Europe because their voices are drowned out in their own countries. Honesty is important. These Bembas are at the forefront of hiding incest, child molestation and wife battery, all to impress the neighbors.
Where is Lazy Lungu? Has he hired a private jet again jetted off to China?
Dr Mumba, seriously? HH is not your enemy, PF is!! I thought Dr Mumba was also in opposition! I still remember your psst glories when you used to preach the Word of God with real zeal. Not this cheap article that is indirectly trying to “rebuke” HH. What a hypocrite of the so called “man of God” with an almost empty glass of wine in front of you in the last picture! Dont people no longer have shame?
You should have just called HH if you were not happy with something he said last week in UK instead of trying to be relevant in a dead MMD party where no one respects you or listens to you!
Mumba, you are stupid. Mr 16000.
Mr President, those were some of the best words I have ever read or seen uttered about Zambia on the International Scene and reading them again today just cements their beauty and how generations, when we are all long gone, will read and hang on them to inspire them to great heights, particularly if you consider the backdrop, that is, Zambians had roundly rejected you to lead them to the promised land a few months before this and yet you summoned up courage and grace to see beyond elections and sing a praise song of the country you love. This is truly remarkable. Indeed Good bless you.
Say what you want but the man got fewer votes than spoiled/rejected ballots. That’s how miserable your party president performs in an election
There is a big difference between giving insights and experiences that will help very knowledgeable business people and just reading from a tourism brochure. Dr Mumba was just reading from a brochure
Dr mumba ‘call is good though misleading .HH didnt speak ill of zambia but raise hope to prospect investors ,obama while in paris on climate change said the republican party have to come to reality on climate,he also talked on the resistance the republicans hav bn on Gun control.enlightening some areas which need improvement is not talking ill especially to well learned pipo.
Embassies have people they call press attaches who complie news and goings on in the countries they are assigned. That’s how come you see Germans coming to Zambia when the country is on its economic knees. They know exactly what they are looking at because some body gave them the intelligence in intricate details. They are here to buy Zambia on the cheap!
Don’t you wish you had similar information on your country? What would you do with it?
Voestek! fake pastor and failed politician!
I agree with Mumba,and i feel like this site has been hijacked by some frustrated chaps from ZWD that are going flat out praising anything their supreme tribal leader says.Watch how they will feast on me for this statement.
@Zamcab,it has become boring at ZWD cause all the opinions are one sided,full of insults and hate………….and that’s how come they have invaded Lusaka times.
Dead wrong zamcab, HH never spoke ill of Zambia but highlighted things that should be done to attract investors. All African countries are competing for investment and if Zambia remains in a tortoise shell and not do anything about instilling investor confidence, then forget about investment. There was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that HH said wrong. In fact I wud have said damning things if it were me at that conference.
Words of wisdom indeed. I clap for you Doc. The problem with hh is that he thinks he can be honoured by outsiders when he speaks ill of his country. He is like a child from a poor family and whenever he visits a well to do family, he denounces his own father that he a lazy father. We should be like a little girl who told the giant man that l will go and call daddy to come and beat you, despite her father being small in stature. We must believe in ourselves. Thanks doc.
So you can now know what a person thinks?
You’re better than god his self!
Voestek! fake pastor and failed politician! How can any sane person paint a beautfiful fake picture with all the filth, disoder, street vending, self serving politicians, corrupt evil service (ooh srry civl service) uncollected garbage, drunkesss in out towns not to talk about the poverty in rural areas! Only a mad person a downright conman like yourself can do that!
Regionalists only think of their province and not the nation.!
Mr. Mumba,
are you trying to say that instead of telling the truth to the prospective investors, you should lie? If so, I am disappointed with you as the man which believe in God, but then, after all, you are just another laying politician.
So this pastor wanted H.H to lie and say the opposite of what is obtaining? Iam really disapointed with Nervers Mumba.
It’s about patriotism.
@ sponge bob
I pity you if the best of your “patriotism” its expressed through blunt lie. Shame on you laying traitor.
you guys he is an aspiring candidate presidential for that matter he should inspire the world to say when he comes to power he will provide a perfect environment for local and external investment.loke the way he has invested elsewhere,let us be realistic in our observations and contributions to this forum,not buyanga suntwe
Read what mumba said about ukip and labour parties. You may differ internally but when ON international forums you speak for your country and leaders with respect. HH and his supporters are not patriotic citizens of Zambia and that’s why you hear them speak with vulgarism about Zambia. A Tonga is only casting a shadow on himself.
Mumba u are spot on hh is threat to our country
Well said Doc Mumba.U r an indigenous Zambian.Coz there’s no way u can go out of yo own home n start denouncing it to yo neighbours.U shud credit yo home always even if u know there’s hunger,fights,no clothes etc
New word? Indigenous?
Ba Zambia!
POVERTY IN THE STOMACH NEVERS PLEASE WE KNOW WHO YOUR MASTER IS. AFTER THE JANUARY 2015 PRESIDENTIAL YOU BECAME GOOD TO ECL TWO MONTHS DOWN THE LINE YOU WERE CRYING COZ YOU WERE NOT REWARDED AND YOU HAVE GONE DOWN THE SAME ROAD WAIT AND SEE HOW THEY WILL USE YOU, MISTREAT YOU AND THROW YOU IN THE DUSKBIN. YOU THIN BY SAYING THEY HAVE GIVEN YOU BACK THE VEHICLES THEY MEAN WELL,
PLEASE WATCH YOUR SPACE
Comment:mumbwe is a fake pastor,how on earth can a man of God tell us to start lying as he lied in southafrica?.common, i can’t buy this,for your own infomation mumba mmd is dead & buried,it ll never res
No wonder my my Br. And fellow Pastor has failed to break through apart from chancing opportunities whenever they appear, to jump onto bandwagons of groups that he may have been condemning all along. Instead of talking about real issues causing Zambians to suffer and continue wallowing in poverty, he jumps excitedly to try and gain mileage from his colleague who in the real sense gave an honest, inspiring speech to investors. Neves needs to mature in Politics, be honest as a servant of God and consistent.
‘You’ll know them by their fruits’! While the colleague he is trying to talk about to gain a mileage, has showed consistence in what he says and the party he has been leading through thick and thin, reaching a vague of winning even the presidency under genuine honesty voting…
@zamcab
Nobody has hijacked this site.
Nevers Mumba is trying to show that the PF regime is not bad,which is not true.If Mumba wants to join the corrupt and tribal PF let him do so without misleading Zambians.HH is a patriotic citizen who speaks the truth,there was nothing wrong with what he said during his overseas trip.
Maturity can be seen in Dr Mumba
‘You’ll know them by their fruits’! While the colleague he is trying to talk about to gain a mileage, has showed consistence in what he says and the party he has been leading through thick and thin, reaching a vague of winning even the presidency under genuine honesty voting system, Nevers left the Pulpit and Flock under his leadership to form national Christian Coalition (NCC), teamed up with other opposition leaders after the fraudulent elections seemingly worn by late UPND opposition leader AM, dumped the colleagues to join MMD when he was appointed by the Late President & State Counsel PM, got fired, jumped onto PF with the late former President MC, and RP led by the late Defence Minister BM, then got back to MMD under Former President RP, later almost got into PF under the late…
He almost got into PF when he though he was going to be given a position, remained silent when the Party was being outsourced by The former president RB, and just woke up from slumber when the party had been swallowed by the mighty ‘Don’t Kubeba Party. How can one be trusted with such a meandering unprincipled behaviour?
In fact, Investors would like to hear from a visionary leader who can portray an an honesty understanding of the existing gaps in the system and how or what could be done to address such, as a way of providing visionary honest leadership and assurance, other than one who could stand out there and just speak out lies which others could easily see in today’s global world.
Comment:Spot on Dr Mumbai. HH is not intelligent neither is he wise.He always makes blunders. Who are his advisors?
no matter how best u can protect yo hh , the fact is he was wrong and wrong cant erase wrong.
Guyz dnt waste yo tym ukulalanda pali ba Mumba, abo nibayama bt let 2016 come vote yandi tabakaimone. Ifintu ni Forward, Forward, Forward, Forward cabe!!!!!!
can someone tell me , how old is HH cos he exhibits immaturity in everything he does
@ chanda:
Tell me, how old are u to be going out with under age girls.? Yo mother was a prostitute.
That question can only be asked by a certain species.
Your question does not speak well of you.
Nervas Mumba is preparing to join Edgar Lungu for the Pact in the July 2016 elections. So he is at liberty to support his alliance partner.
WHILE YOUR FRIENDS ARE BUSY RAISING THEIR COUNTRIES AT INTERNATIONAL FORA, DESPITE THEIR GLARING UPHEAVALS, HH GOES THERE DENOUNCING HIS OWN COUNTRY.
Nevers Mumba can you explain to the people why you were a secret appointment by Lungu as High Commissioner and are drawing a salary when you have not taken the appointment. What morals do you have to attack HH.
Let him express his freedom of speech, Obama 2 days ago talked abt how the other parties in America were blocking him in implementing gun controls. Why pretend foolish fake pastors. Give the party back to RB he was a better leader
HH is Judas Iscariot.
Period.
If Judas Iscariot did not betray Jesus he would not have been identified and he would not have died and you would not have been saved. Thank Judas.
In any case, if Jesus was such a threat and that there was even a bounty on his head, don’t you think there was no need for any body serving him up?
Crazy religious analogy
IS THIS TO SAY ALL THESE *****S DIDNT HAVE TIME TO READ OR EVEN JUST LISTEN TO HH STATEMENT IN UK OR THEY ARE DELIBERATELY DISTORTING THE TRUTH TO SOUND RELEVANT?
Hh Is Not Normal He Must Be Sick In His Brains He Needs To See The Doctor At Chainama Hospital.
Since when did never a protect zambia was he not in MMD that sold gvt mines cheaply?
Is he not the one who stole UNZA land
Is he not the one who embezzled gvt money?
Just wake up and put your country in order
Singing praises where they’re not due is callous stupid and lacks integrity
Let’s all be proud to work hard and claim it
Njala ya munykola, former in law.
Look who is talking, has he already forgotten why he was unceremoniously recalled from the Zambian high commission in Canada. Was he ‘protecting Zambia when abroad’ by misusing and plundering thousands of dollars of embassy cash to satisfy his ego, pride and selfishness in similar style he swindled his church to enrich himself? Mumba, please take a good look at yourself before you open your mouth. In fact you ought to be in jail as we speak.
Lusaka Times has certainly been invaded by ZWD types. Surely these guys cannot even see the strikingly and stark differences between Nevers Mumba’s very positive representation of Zambia and the negative slant of HH’s representation of his own country?
People of Zambia did see difference between political prostitute and leader of opposition. That is why Newers got less votes than number of spoiled ballots.
This Nevers iscrazy pf has taken over his party In day light now he is supporting them openly we know you are targeting HH have you read the speech that HH made please lusaka times post the video here so people can judge for themselves it is there on Facebook he never said anything bad . What leature can Nevers Mumba give us when he went and stole money when he was ambassador in Canada
HH is simply a traitor,a snitch and an imperialist agent.He is NO statesman. A tribalist,a divisible element and a regionist.No matter how much you defend him,he is in the wrong most times.2016,he is crying again.This guy lacks leadership qualities.
What a beautiful speech to read as the year is coming to an end!These are speeches that brings hope in a midst of hopelessness.He has really painted Zambia as a beacon of hope and prosperity.
It is only a person who is myopic and ignorant who will trivialize the speech as useless.These are great speeches which needs to be digested by intellectuals and well meaning Zambians.
The problem with most of us Zambians is the reading culture which leaves much to be desired.Just upon seeing this beautiful speech,people have not read it but rushed to condemn Nevers.We need to improve our reading culture so as to be well versed with current affairs.
Ignorance,poverty and backwardness are the enemies of democracy.
The battle lines are clear between HH and NSM (Nevers Sekwila Mumba). This is issue based politics which highlights the fundamental differences that these two opposition parties have taken in dealing with Zambia in their foreign missions. The first line of course is the glaring differences in experience in the political arena between the two politicians. HH has not served in any public portfolio except as a politician of UPND and of course as a businessman. On the hand NSM has served as a vice president and an ambassador of the Republic of Zambia. Not forgetting of course that he had one of the most successful Christian ministries in his private capacity. Without liking or hating any of the two leaders and basing it on this observation it is clear in my mind that the leadership experience…
The fact that Pastor Mumba FAILED to quote which section or sentence in HH’s presentation is damaging to Zambia speaks volumes about his true character as a so-called Pastor. To cut the chase, Pastor Mumba is advocating that HH should have lied to and duped potential investors. Very unfortunate.
Mumba and PF are bitter because they were not invited to speak. That’s why they are snapping at HH’s heels .
these are two different forae
@knox wolf,
The plural of forum is fora not forae.
The truth of the matter is that HH is causing PF and MMD sleepless nights. As for PF they know very well how close HH came to scooping the Presidency in last elections, they are unsettled with HH’s widening support even from PF’s perceived strong holds. As for Nervers Mumba he doesn’t understand what his role is in opposition. Where do you find an opposition leader constantly attacking and criticising fellow opposition leaders, let him just join the ruling party if he wants to be a mouth-piece of the PF. In the run-up to 2016 Elections the PF will try by all means to discredit HH and UPND they are not bothered by MMD its in the archives gathering dust. My advice to HH and UPND is tread with care, be selective on your messages to the public as your enemies will scrutinise and amplify…
Where does Dr Mumba hail from, from the land where lying and stealing is normal. Shame on you Dr Mumba your are a turncoat with no principles that you preached about. Maybe it is just the nature of these people to lie with no shame no matter who they are in society.
There is nothing wrong with expressing opinions about different countries in different countries. If the motherland is being governed by the dictators, then that is what patriotic citizens are going to call their own rulers. Democracy is not founded on sweeping dirt under the carpet. The computation of GDP and other useful data is based universal methods. Give the national leaders, including HH the chance to express their opinions freely without any form of intimidation. It is better to replay the video on Youtube for viewers to judge where the truth lies.
@Dr Kasonde
For the first time you have spoken a lot of sense. I totally gobsmacked!
Dr. Kasonde,
I salute you.
The policy debates between UNIP and the ANC during the 1960s were robust and parliament became a forum for criticism of government policy. Despite being unable to win nation-wide support, somehow the ANC under Old Harry provided a credible political alternative to UNIP and posed a serious challenge to UNIP’s hold on power in a number of regions, including, Eastern, Southern, Copperbelt and Western Provinces,this what is even happenning today with PF it started way back, i cannot be supprised that history is repeating itself,VIVA ECL
isn’t it some diplomacy things that got you fired by Mwanawasa?
DR. MUMBA, IN YOUR FLAMBOYANT SPEECH YOU CAN PAINT ZAMBIA WITH ALL THE GLITTERING BRIGHT COLOURS YOU MAY CHOOSE BUT THE TRUTH REMAINS THAT FOR AN INVESTOR TO SET UP A HOTEL IN ZAMBIA IT WOULD REQUIRE MORE THAN 30 LICENCES. IS THAT ATTRACTIVE TO AN INVESTOR? WILL THE BUILDING OF AN ULTRA MODERN AIRPORT ON THE COPPERBELT ATTRACT FLIGHTS IN ZAMBIA? WHAT WAS THE IMPACT ON THE INVESTORS OF THE INTRODUCTION AND WITHDRAW OF THE SI 33 AND SI 55? DO WE HAVE WHAT IT TAKE TO ATTRACT TOURISTS, LIKE THEY HAVE IN SUN CITY IN SOUTH AFRICA AND SHARM AL SHEIK IN EGYPT, TO ZAMBIA? HOW MUCH DOES IT TAKE TO OBTAIN PERMITS AND LICENCES. THESE ARE THE ANSWERS THAT AN INVESTOR WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW BEFORE DECIDING TO COME TO INVEST IN ZAMBIA. THESE ARE THE ISSUES HH WAS TRYING TO ADDRESS, NOT BLABLABLA…
@zamcab, hijacking which site, was this site created for you? Ni site ya anyoko?
Saimbwende, we stopped visiting ZWD site because it only allows views of UPND. Any comment against would be deleted before anyone reads it. That is where people relish on insulting their leaders. Such comments are not sensor ed. Now the same fanatics of insults seems to have come to this site.
By the end of the 1960s with UNIP facing internal power struggles, opposition politics gained ascendancy. Splits within UNIP leading to the formation of United Party and United Progressive Party (UPP) the ruling party’s hold on power was seriously threatened. UNIP that had previously committed itself not to introduce a one-party state by legislation panicked by harassing opposition activists with detention, denial of access to markets and loan facilities from state-controlled financial institutions.today UPP is rainbow under kabwamba,and this is a clear indication that Edgar is winning 2016
The policy ‘it pays to belong to UNIP’ brought untold suffering to opposition activists. A UNIP cabinet minister was to say this: ‘It pays to belong to UNIP. Non-supporters of UNIP will never get jobs in government, cooperatives, labour movement and all places.’ Is this not familiar in our current politics under a multiparty political system?check this out ponenafye mu bwatooooooo cikala
Is it not the same with one leaving his own house to go for kaloba elsewhere? Is nt Kaloba a last move in the line of desperation?
HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE RANTING REALIZED THAT NEVERS HAS NOT MENTIONED HH ANYWHERE? IN BEMBA IT IS SAID,’ UMWINE MUKULA EMWINE NAMA.’ DOC MMUMBA WHEN YOU BECOME PRESIDENT, THIS SPEECH SHOULD BE PARTOF SCHOOL CURRICULUM.
SERIOUS, WE NEED TO TEACH CHILDREM FROM A YOUNG AGE ABOUT PAIOTISM AS PART OF THE CURRICULUM. LOOK AT AMERICANS THEY ARE SO PROUD OF WHO THEY ARE. NEVERS NOW I CAN CONFIRM YOU HAVE MY VOTE. THIS WAS IN MARCH 2015, NOT YESTERDAY FOR THOS WHO ARE ACCUSING YOU OF TALKING ABOUT HH.
What is Paiotism na imwe? Also better to use common medium of communication so we can engage properly
Comment: Both HH and Nevers Mumbai told the truth. The difference is that HH behaved as if he had gone for a political campaign rally by using derogatory words. Despite the problems the country was going through he was supposed to give hope especially to the prospective investors. Nevers Mumba exhibited maturity and a high level of leadership qualities. He knows what to talk when.
The so called pastor is urging us to sugar-coat and lie….I would never trust any former TV pastor turned Politician anyway. Lazy Lungu give this man a job like Mwanawasa did!!
Regionalists will always be regionalists.
Comment:HH is always making blunders: 1.He blundered on the day of national prayers. 2.He recently held campaign rallies in the Copperbelt just because ECL was there the previous week. You do not do that,be your own man. 3. This trip abroad he blundered. Instead of attracting investments for his beloved country knowing very well that he might be the next president,he was busy campaigning as if he was at a political rally in Mandevu compound. 3. Now look at the constitution bill he is supporting the process and not the contents . He is completely off target on this one. Iam not a politician but it is very easy to read the minds of most Zambians on this one
All HH said was in order
This very poster mumbwe, is it not the same poster who was fired by late Presido LPM mhsrp for speaking ill of his country? Mumbwe you’r just a fake pastor who does not practice what you preach. HH cant be compared by you lazy bum poster by far. Mmd is a dead tribal party just like your pimpin pf. How do you just allow a married colleague(pf) to sleep with your own wife (mmd) in day light you fool! HH is & wil never be a tribal coward like you mumbwe. Viva HH & his mighty team!
After reading this of Dr Mumba, am made to think that he is a Man of Gold and Silver, and Not a man of God the Almighty. I even expected him to mention a verse which supports his stance from the bible. Dr Mumba should know that God hates lies and liers.
If for example, an investor came to Zambia based on his speech, and found the opposite is what is obtaining, and calls Dr Mumba to say come and help to protect my investing as your picture is different from reality. Would Dr Mumba help? I don’t think so, hence the need for him to SPEAK the truth and it only.
He sounds well by saying lets repaint Africa, but Not with another lie, therefore, let’s repent and repainting Africa correctly. PATRIOTISM is not about lies but love for one’s country, not lies about one’s country. Whenyou…
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Edgar Lungu was one of the most dull students during his time at UNZA when he was studying law. Ngosa Simbyakula played a pivotal role to ensure that his childhood friend completed school of law at least with a pass. He did that by writing assignments for Edgar Lungu and allowing him to copy his answers in the exams through out their life at UNZA. Without Ngosa Simbyakula, Edgar Lungu wouldn’t have managed to have even a certificate in law. This is because, Edgar treasured bear than everything not even his wife or children.When he miss used his clients’ money, Lawyer Edgar Lungu had to be assisted in paying back the money by his friend Ngosa who close friends said he was never fed up with his friend despite urinating in his trousers when he could be too drunk…
“@” Michael.
President Lungu is your President. God put him there. When you insult him you insult God.
The discussion, and not insults, is about not denigrating our mother country Zambia when we are abroad.
God bless you.
Surprised that people still listen to this fake ‘ leader’ who abandoned both the religious and political flocks in search of a few pieces of silver. If president Lungu offers him a job he will jump over the tables to grab the job and abandon yet another party.
Yamunyokola njala pastor mumba. let him just join PF. everything negative in Zambia that hh said is well known by everyone with a brain. you think investors would depend upon one hh to tell them the situation in Zambia? investors have all the info. They wanted to know what hh thinks are the main problems in zambia and how he would sort them out as the next most probable president of Zambia. no wonder mumba has no respect in mmd and beyond. He will never grow up. He reasons like bowman lusambo now.
@ Michael very stupid,
Uncivilized people for national destruction
*****.
#michael
You *****,stupid fool
Uncivilized people for national distraction.
I can tell you come from a useless home.
No manners,no respect nothing but foolishness.
@armchair critic, point of correction. God did not put Lungu there unless you are saying even the rigging was God’s doing. Don’t legitimize wrong things and say God cchose Lungu. Hell NO!! God only allowed Zambians foolishness. It is like saying God chose Hitler.
There was nothing with HH said in London. Hhe said it as it is. Investors can’t be fooled by sugarcoating. Well said HH!
As a patriotic citizen, your job is to sugarcoat – the devil in the details is the problem for the investor. HH is, like you, not very intelligent to know this natural rule.
@ Observer
And what is your IQ? Rule or role? = IQ way bellow 80
Lusaka Times will soon become a ghi
HH over-promising
HH false hope
HH pathetic liar
2016 VOTE PF ( Edgar )
I thank you
HH over-promising = “More money in your pockets”
HH false hope = “2,000,000 jobs in 90 days”
HH pathetic liar = Katondo boys high IQ
KATONDO BOYS,U DONT THINK ,WHAT HAVE LUNGU DONE?U HAVE EYES BUT YOU CANT SEE AND YOU HAVE EARS BUT YOU CAN HEAR.
Nevers, u are a true patriot
I have never seen immaturity and stupidity of such magnitudes as portrayed here by Zambians, Only insults being hurled at each other and the writers of such insults think they are contributing something positive !!!
That is the “Zambian Intelligentsia” at work.
like some teacher for under fives
Dr. Mumba are saying that HH should have lied about the situation home.? What bible are you reading now.You wanted him to lie. or you think the international community doesn’t know our woes. The constitution is now be manipulated. They always what to make a document that suits them. Live up to reality. No sugar coating bwana it is clear on the walls.
This is the reason Christians must avoid to join full time politics. Former Pastor Mumba, prior to joining politics used to preach about “being honest and truthful in all things”. Sadly today he is preaching the opposite. Mr Mumba, you need repentance. Encourage people to be truthful and not to tell lies for the sake of patriotism.
YES,NEVERS REPRESENTED ZAMBIA BY CHAWING ALL THE MONEY BELONGED TO ZAMBIA.WHAT DID HE BRING AFTER BEING ABRAOD APART FROM SUFFERING WE ARE GOING.VIVA HH VIVA GBM.
Wow…wow…Simply magnificent. There are very few people presently who look at things in a refined and finer manner as presented in this speech. Well done Dr Mumba. This has surely changed my perspective of the nation of Zambia and Africa as a whole!
Great stuff!