Treachery of the Parliamentary Amendment of the Constitution

1. After all the talk about decentralisation our MP’s shot it down…Zambia, Zambia when will you rise from the ashes. Haven’t people learnt by now that politicians rise and fall very quickly in Zambia.There is no point trying to secure your political posts.What people can’t vote out nature takes out.

   • What the Members of Parliament have done is like a messenger who is sent to deliver a letter, but on the way the messenger decides to open the letter and change some paragraphs.

2. Madam Longwe, Fr Chiti and your so called Grand Coalition should just shut their dirty mouths than try to mislead the zambians with your cheap and foolish contradictions on the constitution making process. You were crying day in and day out on some of the clauses that have been amended especially the 50% + 1, the Presidential running mate and the dual citizenship hoping that the PF Government would never attend to them in order to please your useless sponsors and continue to recieve dollars but the Govt has done what the people of Zambia had spoken through their submissions and now you have nothing to make noise on. Shame on you what you wanted not to happen has already happened, just find other things to talk about and not on the constitution as zambians now know your hidden agenda…

3. I have never seen a country so negative about everything like what is happening in this country Zambia. It is no brain teaser as to why we never get anywhere. People are only there to criticize about anything to the point that others with progressive ideas are even scared of trying out progressive projects!

   • This is One PF achievement and it will never be taken away from ECL’s legacy – the passing of the dual citizenship measure – within 10 months of taking the Presidency. By the way this clause will directly benefit Sara Longwe Clarke’s own very mixed race children she has from a European. So where has PF failed as she claims in her very cheap and blatant politicking for the opposition. She should have at least acknowledged the positives and not only focus on the minor and costly negatives

   • Ted, Kabu was mentioning people like your ignorant self. How do you even dare type that nonsense after wisdom is laid bare? Am here shaking my head.

   • Kabu & Ted, you are real testaments that we still have the “Broken Hill men” lurking in our midst!!If sara had simply been selfish & narrow minded, ye she might have been cheering the Dual Citizenship for her kids, BUT HELL NO, A BETTER ZAMBIA FOR HER KIDS & US ALL IS WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT – As such we will continue fighting with her & as the GCC puts it,”Time to account is fast approaching, & WE WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR THEM!!!

4. Who elected Sarah Longwe to speak on behalf of The whole Zambian people. Surely 80% of the clauses have gone through. Is that not progress. MPs are elected by Zambians in 10 provinces. Who elects Sarah Longwe Clarke?

   • Same right like you or Lungu.

     Been President does NOT give you more rights but more responsibility. Anyway, People Driven Constitution has been mutilated and what is left its a body without sol.

     Constitution without fundamental rights? Another World first from Democratic (lol) Christian Nation.

     Enjoy one party State to follow.

   • If its only the question of who elected you that counts then i will have a question for the president. How many Zambians elected you?

5. Why is there seems to be no distinction between Grand Coalition and PF? If you want to critic start by discussing what has been passed in parliament. what is PF about 50%+1? What is PF about the running mate? Can the Grand Coalition and UPND state how the 50% + 1, the running mate and dual citizenship disadvantage the opposition. These proposals came from the Zambian people and not PF. For me these were the most important clauses we wanted. Appointing cabinet from outside parliament; women, the youth and persons with disabilities are non issues because no one is prevented from participating in politics. I don’t know of any clause in our constitution that stops any Zambian from taking part in the governance of the country.

6. A New People Driven Constitution has been delivered to the people of Zambia. Even when one submits his draft assignment to the supervisor, not everything is retained otherwise they would be no need to review it.
   Above all, Ms. Sara Longwe, your statement is also nothing but negativity and bitterness, one wonders whose interest you represent because in your shall statement, you haven’t praised the positives that the New People Driven Constitution has retained. Please lets learn to be patriotic otherwise, even the people who sponsor you laugh behind your backs.
   Be positive and give credit to President Lungu and the PF Government on this score twapapata mayo!

   • Very dull. How can you leave out the very important clause of proportional representation and still pass the assignment. PF get an F over the constitution. Zambians are too docile to understand the evil of the PF. They have given us nothing. You wait and see how the story unfolds.

7. The complaints by the so Coalition are totally cheap and misplaced. Every Zambian knows that the hot issue was around the 50% + 1. Other issues were and are still very minor. Please, Coalition , give us breathing space now. Go and conduct a random survey and hear the people’s views. I advise you to go to Primary and Secondary Schools and interview teachers; go to churches and interview church goers; go to universities ( both private & public ) and interview students and a few other groupings and hear what they have to say about what Parliament in Zambia has done. Surely, and in all fairness, if you go by issues do governance in Africa, Zambia, at least on this one, has scored a point. Dear Coalition, be patient because with time, Zambia will score all that needs to be scored. However,…

8. This is the reaction bcos what u wanted to see has not been picked/done to us the issues that went thru were the most immediate and contentius ones which needed to be used in coming elections. Your attack on govt are baseless bcoz pipo now know that upnd has other groups like u who are outside parliament fighting govt. Yo aim was to frastrate the process in parliament but u failed now u have started it out here game over wait the process to finish in a referendum. U have worsted money holding that meeting.ecl for 2016 50+1 at work

9. At least we have moved a step ahead. Lets not be too critical over everything. This mentality of wanting things to go exactly the way you want is retrogressive. Why cant you comment about other good clauses they have enacted? Because to you everything is wrong. Reasons have been given as to why certain clauses can not be implemented now, but you ignore all that. The best you should have done was to go article by article and state where they have done well and you agree with them and where you differ. You will find that may be they have scored 7 out of 10, which is better than nothing.

10. Nonsense Sera Longwe Carke and your misguided Grand Coalition. No one has claimed that a brand new constitution has been delivered, to my knowledge not even the PF or myself or anyone else except yourselves. Even in parliament all MPs whether MMD, PF or UPMD were clear that they were debating amendments. The PF of Lungu (not of Kabimba, make the distinction) made it clear that it was not possible to take the approach of Grand Coalition given the prevailing climate in Zambia and the time available, they said everything else will be considered at the right time. Where were you when Kabimba hid the draft constitution which was only released after Kabimba was deservedly kicked like a bucket of waste water and Lungu came on the scene.

    • Read Lungu statement. Has Lungu become “nobody”?

11. So Sarah Longwe had to make her own comments as vice Chair of Grand Coalition. What about the statement by the Chairman himself Father Leonard Chiti, wasn’t it enough? Did it not convey the same message? Do you have so much money to waste that each of you must take out a paid for similar statements in the media?

    • Another “Broken hill man”, obviously thinking “Press Statements” are “PAID ADVERTS!!”
      When did Sara become Fr Chiti?? THESE ARE THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS SHE IS TALKING ABOUT – as an individual Zambian – SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO AIR HER VIEWS ON OUR GOVERNANCE – I hope you have learnt something from your narrow minded comment – WE KNOW WE HAVE AN IMMENSE JOB IN OUR HANDS to drag people like you into the modern century – fossils or not, we will get you there!!

12. Not a single word about the positives passed in the amended Constitution! Its all just criticism and no recognition of what the people have gained. Surely, how can you have such an attitude. I would have respected your views better had you been fair in your analysis of what was passed. There were negatives and positives but you have chosen to focus on the negatives only. That is not right.

13. The Bill of right requires a referendum and thats why it is not part it you Id**ts. Never seen such negativity just for the sake of it!! You are so retrogressive!!

    • victor
      1mbecile, you call others 1diots because of your believes?
      There was no money for all provision of the Constitution, but there is for Bill of Rights? Where is logic Jack Ass?

    • @IQ 138…’because of your believes?’…this coming from a homie who thinks he is the worlds gift for knowledge…listen here youngster, you aint nothing but a loose nut waiting to bust..now take a sit and see how big boys do it…..pwahahahaha

14. Iwo kwena Grand fimo fimo yalashupa. A bunch of people who can not see any thing in PF. Its really hatred of its worst kind indeed. You decide to pick out 20% out of 100% as items that make you so annoyed. Now PF has colluded with MMD to still a people driven constitution away from the people. Previously it was PF is not going to give you a constitution. Wah clever people spokespersons indeed. By the way, at least I know the duties and purpose of an MP than a member of a Grand Coalition whom I do not even know which constituency they represent so that I can vote them out in case I am not well represented. Whom do you represent Sara?

    • This is the type of attitude that has got Zed to where it is today – Millions of Zmk & hundreds if not thousands of hours(I.e.”Man -Hours!!”) were spent during the constitutional exercise – thousands of submissions made & AGREED UPON in Final draft – which means the largest non-partisan consensus was obtained – a referendum WAS to be the FINAL REFLECTION & SEAL OF THAT CONSENSUS!! You are cheering a few selfish,PARTISAN CADRES hell bent to do what ever it takes to stay in parliament for their pot-bellies – which is emasculate the national CONSENSUS. If the Consensus was to leave out the 20%, it would never have even gotten to parliament – THE PEOPLE WANT 100% of the DRAFT ADOPTED not another 100yrs of perpetuating “BROKEN HILL MAN” in our midst!!!!

15. WAFWANA NA 50+1 NAIKABA KANSHI. HH + UPND HAMMERED BY FIRST BLOW ANGLO- GARRY ,HH,JACK- DIZZY SECOND BLOW- 50+1 GARRY DRUNK NOKU SUNDA ON TOP,GRAND COALITION-DIZZY KWASHALA~NEXT HH VIOLENCT KABILI TAPALI ICHAKWE COOL DOWN ITS OUR COUNTRY GUYS THERE MAIN THINGS ONE CAN DO APART FROM PRESIDENCY. BE LIKE DANGOTE A SINGLE MAN RICHER THAN HIS NATION NON BOSTIFUL COOL TO EARTH ITS PIPO WHO SAY HE IS THE RICHES NOT HIMSELF SOME OF U NGATATUNWA MENSHI KUSELE NOKUTWANGA

16. the money you got from Haleya Halenya was alot,now you have seen the benefits of corruption,just find ways and means of how you are going to pay back,as far as we are concerned we will never go back to your sittings(NCC)ba swaini mu peleni umwine money,and HH signed a social agreement with NGOCC over the constititon as though he was president,nomba ka money kapwa a dought if next year he will manage to do a countrywide campaign,in UK they refused to give him money,meanwhile ECL was busy mobilising his pipo with the constitution process.what ECL said on his inauguration day has come to pass “There’s no honeymoon for us. Tomorrow, I will swear in ministers whom I’ll be appointing in the course of the day.

    “I want to hand you a new constitution. We’ll ensure we give you a people driven…

17. “There’s no honeymoon for us. Tomorrow, I will swear in ministers whom I’ll be appointing in the course of the day.

    “I want to hand you a new constitution. We’ll ensure we give you a people driven constitution and to this effect I wish to appoint one respected lawyer Dr Ngosa Simbyakula as Justice Minister to oversee this process.”

18. The Grand Coalition risks becoming relevant to Zambian politics with the kind of cynicism with which they are reacting to the proposed amendments to the Zambian constitution. Are these characters telling us the current constitution in its entirety is defective? Are they saying the amendments that have been proposed do not in anyway go to improve on the current constitution? Are they saying Zambia will only be “heaven on earth” the moment we replace the current constitution with a new one? What has the grand coalition done to educate Zambians on the advantages of a mixed member proportional representation? Is the grand coalition not alive to the fact that Government has said the bill of rights requires a referendum? I cannot believe this negativity!!!

19. Grand coalition,whatever it is called,is there to make money and milk Zambians.This group of people is there to make allowances at the expenses of the poor majority.They have found a source of earning a living through arguments about the constitution making process.It is like slave trade.Others were earning a living out of it.That is why they were very adamant about it’s abolition.It also applies to AIDS pandemic.Alot of institutions are earning a living through peoples’ suffering.They cannot tell me that a cure for AIDS cannot be found.They know that immediately a cure is found,they will stop stealing from Africa in the name of AIDS prevention.
    This grand coalition is a group of parasites that have no interest of the common people apart from earning allowances from donor community in…

20. No one vote the Grand Coalition or is it the Grand Collision into office. These are greedy people wanting to make money from their seatings. MPs are voted into office by people through elections. Passing of the new constitution with most of the clauses that people wanted is the most progressive we have had since we started trying to make a new constitution. How much money has been wasted from one constitution review commission to another? millions of dollars!!! Lungu may not be perfect, however, passing of the new constitution will leaves him a legacy that previous presidents failed to achieve.

21. how many voters cards does this so called coalition has?for me and my family like or hate it its pabwatoo,

22. Expecting 100% pass of all clauses is unrealistic, making political noise about a few missed or deffered clauses is foolishness,
    Spare us your idiocy we want to move on, ECL does make mistakes yes but on this he has scored and real big. The best we can do is to support the man.
    People have been dupped, which people are those?

23. “The Amendments Trashed the People’s Submissions On Voting On The Budget: …………….”

    “The Amendments Left Out the Provisions On Provincial Assemblies, Thus Limiting Decentralization: …….”

    THE TWO PARTIAL EXCERPTS QUOTED ABOVE DISPLAY THE BANKRUPTCY OF THE SELF APPOINTED COALITION OF CONFUSION. SURELY THEIR PROPOSALS ARE VERY COSTLY AND IMPRACTICAL. WE HAVE VERY POOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGH LEVELS OF POVERTY AND THESE PEOPLE WANT SUCH LUXURIES.

    LET THEM GO AND JUMP IN LAKE KARIBA.

24. who is this stupid Longwe? Who elected her to represent the so called marginalised? who does she feed apart from het children? Is she even married and if so why doesn’t the husband advice her? Mind you Father Chiti has slowed down. How many times have floated mama Nawakwi and has terribly flopped? Today you are there yapping that WOMEN. are marginalised
    Tell us, is mama Nawakwi a woman or a man? If u don’t know? she is a woman. and where has your women folk been for her to tumble In presidential election when women voters are the majority which includes you? Viva father Chiti for your timely silence, father indeed.

25. who is this stupid Lo*g*e? Who elected her to represent the so called marginalised? who does she feed apart from het children? Is she even married and if so why doesn’t the husband advice her? Mind you Father Chiti has slowed down. How many times have floated mama Nawakwi and has terribly flopped? Today you are there yapping that WOMEN. are marginalised
    Tell us, is mama Nawakwi a woman or a man? If u don’t know? she is a woman. and where has your women folk been for her to tumble In presidential election when women voters are the majority which includes you? Viva father Chiti for your timely silence, father indeed.

26. Ba Longwe, the talk is cheap and boring. Find something else to do madam. It is now water under the bridge. Let us start looking at the way forward with the deferred Clauses. “…However, the time to account for their actions is fast approaching and as Grand Coalition, we are resolved to make it happen for them…” to me this sounds more of a political threat which should not be the case if at all your NGO is non-political

27. You Sarah are speaking for your self and not Zambians. What you are talking about is nonsensical. Why should we have MPs who are not elected by Zambians but corruptly chosen by you and your friends? Awe twakana icho bane. Please just shut up woman.

28. Among defective and retrogressive organisations that we have in Zambia, the grand coalition tops it. And please Sarah Longwe Clarke, you don’t represent the interest of the Zambians, who gave you those rights? Don’t impose something you’re only entitled to. Zambia is bigger than your interests. Your bitterness is very sound in your statement, we have read it as we know that it won’t go anywhere. Tell Chiti that your mission has come to an end, disband your organisation and tell your sponsors that Contemporary President EL has passed the amendment Bill and on Monday next week, he will be signing it at state house.

29. On whose behalf do this coalition speak? This is a fake institution. As much as I dont support 50%+1 nad running met clauses, at least they came from the people. Grand coalition is a neo colonialism institution

30. Let MacDonald Chimpezi Read

    The Grand Coalition always miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.Sarah Longwe and the coalition should not arm twist the truth and throw mud on the peoples faces.Look now how they are running and ranting and barking.Its is not an open secret that if there is any clause which the PF should have Shelved with ill motive would be 50% plus one and Running Mate.The simple Majority gives PF an easy win but it was not to be the people had spoken.Proportion or mixed representation whatever they want to call it is out of touch with reality.The Mother Parliament of all parliaments in the commonwealth which is the westmister parliament chooses Cabinet from Elected Members who are held accountable by the people.We have institutions like the judiciary and with the…

31. “She wondered why the PF government did not just adopt the National Constitution Commission (NCC) draft of 2010 including whatever new clauses they wanted, instead of wasting so much money only to end up adopting some of the exact clauses in the NCC draft Constitution and using the same route the NCC proposed.

    She charged that the PF government with support from the MMD wanted to continue to centralise power and that their talk about decentralisation is just lip service”

    Cadres answer some simple questions instead of supporting blindly. She asks why the PF was against the NCC which proposed some of the same things but went ahead to spend K500 million of my money and your money and you are not bothered. Aweh mweh you people surprise the hell out of me.

    • 3/4 of Zamians are dull..The constitution is not a PF or UPND document and clauses that were shelved were progressive and would have made the life of many maginalised people good.lets unite to make Zam good place for to live in.

32. The grand collusion of chipmunks are just crying for funding which they budgeted for their fantasy referendum! I am thinking twice about voting YES for the Bill of Rights because it will sneak in some sordid clauses like homosexuality and we will see lesbians hitting it off openly and without shame!Lets stop masturbating the constitution!

33. Our elected representatives did what we asked for while NGO mps did according to your wishes. Get democratically elected to enforce your daytime dreams. Goodnight NGOs

34. The Grand Coalition is just mad that they shall not be able to get allowances for just seating in meetings since 1995. The names of these Mvunga conferences might have changed, but it is still they same tax payer embezzling cartel.

35. @ Ms Longwe-APO UPELELE?Why should we be listening to a spinster? Grow up!!!

    • because spinster has same rights as F*ck Finn

36. Comment: its only fair to give where its due, when I was trainee teacher my Lecturers always told me my strength after observing lesson, surely the grand coalition should also take such a step to earn respect otherwise its becoming irrelevant. ECL has scored a point & Zambia will always remember him as the President who listened to the people

    • Yes he is listening to a few THIEVES LIKE HIMSELF!!!

37. The Grand Coalition sounds very bitter and not prepared to examine this issue objectively. Yes, the constitution will remain defective with the clauses not yet implemented. However, the clauses passed signify a big positive for some of us. It does not mean we have to rest on our laurels. Let’s debate the rest. For what it’s worth, one has to credit ECL for the courage to facilitate the progress so far. As for the NCC findings, why did RB ignore them? Why did it not accept all of the Mungomba commission recommendations?

38. Comment: G C, which people did you represent? Your inclination was well known from inception and that’s why People were divided except a few that belonged to your side.

39. In this one instance, I would say the parliamentarians failed to act beyond self interest instead of siding with the will of the people. By insisting that the president appoints ministers from with parliament they made sure that they had job security for their future jobs as ministers besides being MPs as well.

    My proposal is that all the clauses that the PF turned down should now be subjected to the National Referendum since the PF had assured us that the adoption would be done in two phases, parliament as a quick fix, and referendum later for the people to decide on the other clauses.

    I do not see our parliamentarians acting beyond self interest in some of these clauses because they are immediate beneficiaries.

40. 80 percent of the comments to this post appear to come from one source!!!

    • Red Brick?

41. IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE SUBMISSIONS TO THE DRAFT CONSTITUTION WERE NOT UNANIMOUSLY AGREED UPON. THE ZAMBIANS ON THIS FORA (LT) AND MANY OTHER ONLINE, PRINT AND ELECTRONIC MEDIA ARE EXPRESSING DIFFERENT VIEWS. PARLIAMENT ITSELF WAS DIVIDED. SO IT WILL BE FOLLY FOR ANYONE TO CLAIM THAT THOSE SUBMISSIONS WERE REPRESENTING ALL ZAMBIANS. ALL THESE PEOPLE HOLDING DIVERGENT VIEWS ARE ALSO ZAMBIANS. THE GRAND COALITION SHOULD NOT MISLEAD US.
    1. ON THE BILL OF RIGHTS: THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ITEM. THE GOVERNMENT HAS TOLD US THAT IT WILL BE SUBJECTED TO THE REFERENDUM TOGETHER WITH THE GENERAL ELECTION. SO THE GC MUST NOT TELL LIES HERE.
    2. ON MIXED MEMBER REPRESENTATION: THIS IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE. THERE IS NO LAW THAT FORBIDS WOMEN, YOUTHS AND THE DISABLED TO PARTICIPATE IN GOVERNANCE IF THEY…

    • THAT IS WHY WE WANT TO MAKE IT LAW!!! Just becoz there is no law forbidding participation by certain groups – HENCE THE REASON THEY ARE MARGINALISED BY THE STONE-THROWING POLITICIAN CADRES just like BULLIES do at a school playground – yes there is no law that stops the weak from “BULLYING” the BULLIES, it is simply that the weak may not have the means immediately at their disposal, HENCE WE STAND UP FOR THEM!!!

42. THE TRAGEDY OF THIS MARRIAGE OF CONVENIENCE BETWEEN GRAND COALITION AND UPND IS THAT HH HAS REALIZED THAT HE HAS NO POTENTIAL PARTNER FOR 50+1 AND NOW WANTS TO PARTNER WITH SARAH LONGWE TO GET TO STATE HOUSE.

    MUTATI, THE COWARD FAILURE, TRIED TO BOOST THE FORTUNES OF HH BUT REALIZED IT IS NOT ABLE TO WIN EBCAUSE IT IS USER-UNFRIENDLY AND IS NOW TRYING TO SQUEEZE BACK TO MMD WHICH HE ABANDONED.

    MMD’S NEVERS MUMBA IS MAKING SCORES EVERY DAY AND OUTWITTED HH WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEBATE AND THE UK TRIP WHERE HE WENT TO INSULT ZAMBIANS. HE HAS NO WHERE TO TURN EXCEPT TO SARAH LONGWE. HE HAS GIVEN MILLIONS TO COALITION AND THEY KICK OFF THEIR FOOLISH CAMPAIGN O SATURDAY. IT IS ALREADY A FAILED PROJECT. HH IS TOO DESPERATE THAT IS WHY HE WILL NEVER GET TO STATE HOUSE. IF HE HAD…

43. Comment: this woman & her other clowns must be ignored. lets vote no to th bill of rights in th referendum

44. Sara watever uko…, plz serve us from your frustrations with your upnd…! I nearly believed u at first but now have lost respect for u and your sponsors…upnd! My vote on pf….!

45. ” THE JAMESON AMENDMENTS” ARE NOT ENOUGH! CONSTITUTION YACHIGAMBA! HOPEFULLY A COMPETENT GOVERNMENT WILL TAKE OVER FROM THE PF AND COMPLETE THIS VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS! BA PF KUWAYAWAYA FYE!

46. Very stupid woman sera.when she’s not f**ked by her husband she becomes bitter of not being serviced.we no that the more u argue the more u money u recieve but on this one u are dreaming condeming government and Pf.thats what Zambians wanted and as for u I can give u yaku buyo kaili na ine nigona kawilo so bwela to ku toyileko yakuvuli.

    • PRAISES PRAISES FOR YOU, as you have shown you depraved sensibilities, AT LEAST WE CAN PUT YOUR COMMENTS INTO CONTEXT!!! ( Sorry, I apologise ahead of time if you don’t really understand my comment!)

47. True man she cant even dance cos of too much water even ka 20liter kakwana.

48. Below is what I submitted this afternoon in response to Lungu’s Constitution Bill signing bragging and I still stand by it (and agree with Sarah Longwe)

    ” Its the process of bringing about the new Constitution that was in contention – and still is, in my books. A referendum based Constitution is less subject to future ‘willy nilly’ amendments. The fact the clauses were put before those MPs is what was frightening in terms of the legitimacy of the Constitution. If many of the clauses have remained, its only a coincidence. The methodology could have easily seen a rejection of the significant submissions that people made. For me, this was still a mere amendment exercise in terms of process.”

    • Even after the referendum, Mps will still have to debate and pass it and presidential assent required to convert it into law. Room for amendment will still be present

49. Jjp says comments are from one source since even yours is amongst these it means they were all written by u. Comeon pipo are just happy and just waiting for the constutition signing ceremony those against are one out of a thousand & we shall carry them along they will accept after a referendum. 2016 pf 2016 ecl

50. we have the constitution, and the referendum is coming next yr august in which th missing clauses shall be upheld or not….. LETS NOT BE BLINDED BY negativity…………… BRAVO PF AND 2016 IS YOZ

51. The American Constitution has been in existence for something like three hundred years but from time to time it is amended to adapt to changing circumstances. How often does one hear of the First Amendment, the Fifth Amendment and so on? And so amending a constitution is not a new idea and one can only speculate that the insistence of a new constitution by the Grand Chakuti has more to do with politics of the belly than having an amended constitution that serves the interest of the majority of the people. There could be need to amend parts of the constitution in future as circumstances change just like some Americans would want to amend the section on gun ownership because of the mass killings that have been associated with it.

52. The difference is we have had a Constitution that has not really been ours. Once you ground your own Constitution that reflects your aspirations as a people, yes, in future if need be, you may amend some parts. But if we do not have a Constitution that transcends regime change or the socioeconomic base, we shall forever be suggesting new commissions by successive governments or subject it to numerous amendments to suit the caprices and whims of those in power at any given time. This is what we have been striving for – an ultimate people based Constitution. After a Referendum, this would not be subject to debate, but be written in the necessary language and Parliament merely passes it. Not the other way round. That those MPs represent us, is a myth.

53. Our president His excellency Mr. E Lungu, who is a layer by profession and Dr. Ngosa Simbyakula know the difference between Peoples’ Driven Constitution and Parliament Driven Constitution. Because of greed and selfishness have decided to give us Parliament Driven Constitution. It is absolutely true that they have no respect and regard for peoples wishes. PF cannot keep its word-promised to give us peoples driven constitution. PF lacks integrity, respect and trust, that why we are being given a Parliament driven Constitution. It is a fault and greed of PF that’s why PF is “fighting” with LAZ, Grand Coalition, opposition parties for unjust cause. PF is not doing us a favor by selecting all it wants in the Draft, just like it has only selected Chisokone Market for soft loans, how about…

54. Prophet Shephard Bushiri must be invited to come and examine these characters of the coalition, ie, Leonard Chiti, this woman talking, and the rest of them, to inform the rest of Zambians just what they are up to. Let Bushiri prophecy on them!

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