United party for National Development Deputy Spokesperson has asked the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ) to give guidelines on the implication and interpretation of minimum qualification of grade twelve certificate.
In a statement released to the media, Mr Edwin Edwin Lifwekelo said that there was confusion and misunderstanding on this provision because the constitution stated that minimum qualification of grade twelve and this could be interpreted to mean that one still qualifies to stand with other academic faculties even if one didn’t have a grade seven or grade twelve certificate.
Mr Lifwekelo further said that we have doctors and academicians including politicians that never had a chance to do grade seven or grade twelve but have obtained a diploma or degree in other academic faculties.
Below is the full statement
FOR IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE
The Law Association of Zambia must give guidelines on the implication and interpretation of minimum qualification of grade twelve certificate. There is confusion and misunderstanding on this provision.
The provision says minimum qualification of grade twelve, meaning one still qualifies to stand with other academic faculties even if one didn’t have a grade seven or grade twelve certificate.
I have in mind people that never had an opportunity to do grade seven or grade twelve but have gone further to obtain a diploma or degree in other academic faculties, do you disqualify them on account of not having a grade twelve certificate, the answer is No.
We have doctors and academicians including politicians that never had a chance to do grade seven or grade twelve but have obtained a diploma or degree in other academic faculties.
The provision says minimum qualification of grade twelve meaning one can still have other academic qualifications and thus is qualified to stand as a Counselor, MP or President.
The Law Association of Zambia must therefore, provide leadership on this matter and give guide on the interpretation of minimum qualification of grade twelve. People have taken it that you specifically require a grade twelve certificate for you to qualify as a Counselor, MP or President which I think is not the case. I stand to be corrected.
Edwin Lifwekelo
UPND Deputy
Spokesperson
What I read is grade 12 or equivalent. Perhaps question should, what is equivalent to grade 12?
Those doubting GBM’s qualification to the Office of Vice President should also clarify this:
Why does GBM even need to produce A Grade 12 certificate to be a Vice Presidential running mate? Can someone cite the the article which specifies qualifications for a running mate? I have not seen or read any! Since qualifications are not specified it therefore means anybody who aspires qualifies as long as he/she wins favor of the Presidential candidate & is picked as a running mate.
Please do not hallucinate implied qualifications that because a Vice President assumes power whenever there is a vacancy in the Presidency then by implication He/She also needs to have G12 certificate. No!
Forget about He/She being the leader of parliamentary business(debates). Just state the specific article…
Forget about He/She being the leader of parliamentary business(debates). Just state the specific article for qualification of a V/P running mate. I have only seen qualifications for a Councillor, MP & President?
The qulifications for MP apply in this case, i.e. minimum grade 12. So of course a diploma, which higher that a certificate qualifies. I thought UPND balaabusongo maningi.
Imwe ba Lifekelo/UPND suppose GBM is working @ Arizona Breweries processing Chibuku Bulk Beer but he his level of education is up to grade 6 term 3 drop out.He decides to obtain a 2 years Diploma in Chibuku Processing and intends to stand as a councilor under 2016 amended constitution.Then Mandevu Banda is just a school lever with full grade 12 certificate ONLY.Among the two who has a minimum of grade 12 certificate? If recruiters are recruting degree holders do they look just for degrees or high school qualification? Food for thought before even LAZ answers you.
Someone said something interesting on ZReports on tribalism:
When one reviews the electoral results data, it is not possible to pin-point anything uniquely different in the voting pattern of Southern Province when a candidate coming from the same region stands… Here are some facts:
In 2008 when RB (Eastern), HH (Southern) and Sata (Northern) stood, each of the three got the following results from their respective regions of origin (strongholds): RB got 74.46% from Eastern (and 20.79% from Southern); Sata got 70.47% from Luapula (and 4.78% from Southern); HH got 72.98% from Southern (with 1.30% from Northern! and 5.84% from Eastern!)… So which region voted the least for one who is not their own here?
Furthermore, in 2011 elections when again, RB (Easterner), HH (Southerner) and Sata…
Furthermore, in 2011 elections when again, RB (Easterner), HH (Southerner) and Sata (Northerner) contested, the results from their respective regions were as follows: RB got 74.28% from Eastern (and 18.89% from Southern); Sata got 74.66% from Luapula (and 6.67% from Southern); HH got 72.31% from Southern (with 0.79% from Northern! and 3. 04% from Eastern! – much less than in 2008!)… Note that each candidate still got above 72% from their own regions just like in 2008 – so no change!
So where is this theory of Tribal or Region votes more pronounced or worse off for Southerners than other regions? I don’t see anything unique about southern region, apart from that they are even fairer to other contestants than other regions! You may wish to further review all Zambian election results…
You may wish to further review all Zambian election results here: http://africanelections.tripod.com/zm_detail.html…
By Douglas.
Thanks Douglas. Looks like the other regions that are screaming tribalism are even more tribal to our Tonga brothers and sisters. Hypocrites make me sick. Can we all stop this Tribal talk and concentrate on rebuilding the country…
The challenge we have is that most of our MP’s have very humble academic qualifications. Most of them have only managed to get to certificate level and that is why the idea of reading volumes upon volumes is very strange to them. The constitution was put up for public debate several times, it was later taken to parliament for further debate. If indeed our MP’s had some education, surely what Lifwekelo is talking about could have been pointed out and I am sure it could have been clarified. The link below shows the education level of all our MP’s….shockingly sad. Certificate in this era, nt even Diploma.
http://www.parliament.gov.zm/members-of-parliament
It is inferred the President and the Running mate should both meet the requirements. You can’t have a running mate who is 21 years old because if the position falls vacant the running mate will not qualify to be president, which requires one to be 35 years old.
Come on stop playing semantics game here if you are GBM yourself. There is no article which says being a man you can’t go into the female public toilet, that does not mean you should go just because it is not in the article. Common sense please bwana
Just sort your mess in UPND baba
The clause same Grade 12 representing a minimum of high school Qualification? We have many Zambians that have attended school overseas. maybe to MAKE IT VERY CLEAR LET THEM AMEND IT TO HIGH SCHOOL qualification.
This turn of events is very surprising and to a large extent embarrassing. Should the UPND who for the past years have labelled their opponents illiterate Kaponyas be questioning this grade 12 thing? Should intellectuals be talking about such a basic qualification as grade 12? How many skeletons do we have in these politicians closets that needs exposing?
@The Observer
I know you are responding to my post.
Your example of public toilets is highly misplaced. Do you realize that at the top of the door it is always labelled Male/male symbol or Female/Female symbol. That is the article that stops you from using a toilet meant for the opposite gender.
So stop defining qualifications by inference. Equally by inference when something is silent it may imply no rules or qualification apply to the specific office. So GBM will file in his nomination on technicality. Otherwise I foresee the elections postponed because someone can sue & request the supreme court to interpret the law. The sooner you realize the weight in my argument the better if you had hoped to fix GBM on qualifications.
Refer me to a specific article in the constitution…
Neutral – The constitution quite clearly states that a running-mate should have the same qualifications as required for the president.
But how can you have a diploma without a Grade 12 certificate…it simply says a lot about the quality of that diploma!!
This is just nonsense and a waste of time and just trying to be noisy all the time from UPND. You guys wanted the constitution to be amended and signed. It has been signed. The Preseident ECL was always reminding Zambians to study and understand this new amendments. Where you guys that you are now not sure on the requirements of grade 12 as minimum. Come on UPND this is not ideal from a party wanting to rule. You didn’t read the amendments when you were making noise. It’s a minimum grade 12 qualification. Is a diploma higher or lower than a grade 12 certificate. Does that need LAZ clarification honestly
Neutral – Here is the clause you’re asking for
110. (1) There shall be a Vice-President for the Republic who shall be the running mate to a presidential candidate in a presidential election. (2) The qualifications and disqualifications applying to a presidential candidate apply to the person selected by the presidential candidate to be the running mate.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
LAZ can only give an opinion. But it is the courts of law that interpret the law… A doctor without G12 or its equivalent, uh, uh…?
@Ricky Bobby
Thanx! No more questions from me. GBM eliminated!
But as Lifwekelo asks someone may have gone up to Form III & got employed as an Accounts Clerk in the 70s or 80s. By experience he got accepted to do CABS, later ZDA & later ACCA? Isn’t He/Her better qualified than a mere G12? I once had a work mate like that & is now retired.
But why are you UPND panicking take it easy time will tell.
This is very embarrassing, coming from UPND.
It proves that no one from UPND bothered to read the contents while debating in parliament before they became law, as signed by Lungu.
Edwin since your party has learned people some are even members if LAZ, why don’t you ask them?
Edgar time after time fave every to participate but UPND just wanted to make noise for political capital.
Now the reality is here. Grade 12 or to the (EQUIVALENT) is not so difficult to understand.
….correction !
This is very embarrassing, coming from UPND.
It proves that no one from UPND bothered to read the contents while debating in parliament before they became law, as signed by Lungu.
Edwin since your party has learned people some are even members of LAZ, why don’t you ask them?
Edgar time after time asked everyone to participate but UPND just wanted to make noise for political capital.
Now the reality is here. Grade 12 or to the (EQUIVALENT) is not so difficult to understand.
minimum grade 12 or equivalent. That says it all. Anything above is acceptable.
Why is UPND concerned about that ? Its minimum Grade 12 or its equivalent, such as standard 6 , or sub A, in the case of GBM
My sister had a form three certificate in the 70’s and she went ahead and did a course in nursing/nutrition. Similarly, most of the old Policemen who went to Lilayi or Kamifinsa in the 70’s and early 80’s are actually form threes. Don’t argue you were not there!
It looks like UPND has within its ranks fake diploma and degree holders without Grade seven certificates. This says a lot about characters who want to hoodwink Zambians into believing that they are economic managers. I hope HH has a grade seven certificate.
Bandawe – The entry qualifications to those Diploma programs must have stated Grade 12 or Equivalent – or the applicant must have met an entry Aptitude Test to show that they met the entry requirement, possibly equivalent to Form V/Grade 12.
Trying to Justify selecting GBM as running mate Ka..Uko. So GBM has a Diploma in business but not Grade 12 certificate?
I’m yet to be shown somebody who has a PhD but no Grade 12 certificate or equivalent..maybe in UPND or Does Dr Cassius Banda also not have a Grade 12 or form five certificate. Uko the plot thickens in UPND
This new constitution has brought trouble among parties
@Chanda
Why does GBM even need to produce A Grade 12 certificate to be a Vice Presidential runnining mate? Can someone cite the the article which specifies qualifications for a running mate? I have not seen or read any! Since qualifications are not specified it therefore means anybody who aspires qualifies as long as he/she wins favor of the Presidential candidate & is picked as a running mate.
Please do not hallucinate implied qualifications that because a Vice President assumes power whenever there is a vacancy in the Presidency then by implication He/She also needs to have G12 certificate. No!
Forget about He/She being the leader of parliamentary business(debates). Just state the specific article for qualification of a V/P running mate. I have only seen qualifications for a…
Forget about He/She being the leader of parliamentary business(debates). Just state the specific article for qualification of a V/P running mate. I have only seen qualifications for a Councillor, MP & President?
@Neutral
It is inferred the President and the Running mate should both meet the requirements. You can’t have a running mate who is 21 years old because if the position falls vacant the running mate will not qualify to be president, which requires one to be 35 years old.
Come on stop playing semantics game here if you are GBM yourself. There is no article which says being a man you can’t go into the female public toilet, that does not mean you should go just because it is not in the article. Common sense please bwana
Just sort your mess in UPND baba
@Chanda
So stop defining qualifications by inference. That’s guess work now. Equally by inference when something is silent it may imply no rules or qualifications apply to the specific office. So GBM will file in his nomination on technicality. Otherwise I foresee the elections postponed because someone can sue & request the supreme court to interpret the law. The sooner you realize the weight in my argument the better if you had hoped to fix GBM on qualifications.
Just refer me to a specific article in the constitution that defines qualifications for V/P running mate.
For Neutrals benefit
110. (1) There shall be a Vice-President for the Republic who shall be the running mate to a presidential candidate in a presidential election. (2) The qualifications and disqualifications applying to a presidential candidate apply to the person selected by the presidential candidate to be the running mate.
No matero university qualifications. To get a diploma, the pre-requisite is for one to have done some kind of post primary education. If you only have a diploma without any supporting pre-qualification like a form 3 certificate, then that diploma should be flushed down the toilet.
But how were those diploma obtained without Grade twelve Certificates?. A degree or a diploma can only be issued with a full grade twelve certificate.
People, please learn more about this before commenting.
A University can admit anyone it choses for consideration for the awarding of a Degree. EVEN IF THEY NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL!
And they can issue a Degree to persons that have even NEVER EVEN STUDIED AT THAT UNIVERSITY!
There are many “Doctors” that have these degrees especially “Honorary” ones.
@joker..That is why the article sites academic qualifications. Not honorary. All universities and colleges offering academic qualifications always request for previous academic transcripts and certificates.
Joker,
You are certainly a joker. An honorary doctorate can be given even to a kaponya. But you can’t use an honorary a doctorate if you are looking for a job! You have to have an earned doctorate called the PhD to get you a job. And you can never ever get a PhD without a Grade 12 certificate. Just give me one example of a PhD holder who has no Grade 12 certificate.
This is an ambiguous piece of legislation. It requires serious interpretation before we have a chaotic nomination process. Edwin instead of asking LAZ (who in most cases are viewed as interested parties) ask the judiciary itself. Its their job to interpret the law.
If you dont have a grade 12 certificate. you dont qualify its as simple as that. if you bypassed one step of getting a grade 12 you can still go back to school its not late
Akale ku UNZA tatwalesenda ama results yamu Form V kuminwe nga ci kommpyuta cakusala. Twlesanga calicita syncronise na ECZ (not electoral but examination council of Zambia). No grade twelve, no UNZA. So don’t mention Dr Canicius Banda here. The guy is a distinction student from DK near Arakan Barracks, medical Doctor from UNZA and Masters from Japan. Good running mate in Canicius. If you are doubting ask Sulu of Big Brother. As for GBM he is equally a good running mate. If the reason for the grade 12 criterion is to make sure there is some level of cognitive reasoning in the entity wanting to exercise his democratic right to … then we are using a wrong proxy. rather it should be some IQ test open to all dreamers. An aptitude is even better because you need not be that intelligent to be…
@Nuetral, the Constitution is clear that qualifications of a running mate are the same as those of a presidential aspirant. Read bro/sis!
@OneZambia
Ok! I get you thanx!
But me quote the actual article.
ACCORDING TO THE ZAMBIAN PROGRAM OF EDUCATION, ONE CAN NOT GO TO UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGE WITHOUT A GRADE 12 CERTIFICATE…NOW THE QUESTION ARISES WHERE DID THEY GET THEIR DIPLOMAS AND PHDz without a grade 12 certificate in zambia???????? mayb MATERO UNIVERSITY AS USUAL…. i dnt see any interpret by a political party called LAZ on this issue it clear and straight forward PERIOD….and if they did get their diplomas from outside this country or online where they dnt ask u if u have a grade 12 then back home here they have to repeat and get a G12 CERTIFICATE THEN LYENA NINSHI THEIR DIPLOMA BCOMES VALID IN OUR LAND
Grade twelve or equivalent is a bare minimum.
Those who, for whatever reason didn’t have access to grade twelve, but were admitted to college or university education as adults on the basis of their abilities, understanding and experience, subsequently qualifying for the award of a diploma or degree must qualify to run for any political office under the Constitution of the Republic of Zambia.
Don’t be tunnel “visioned”. Education is broad minded and flexible. It gives opportunities to people through innumerable avenues.
I write as one who missed out on going to grade twelve due to family circumstances. Nevertheless, God be praised for availing me opportunities to further my learning to the extent of obtaining college and university qualifications, including certificates, a…
What is the farce about GBM?
He said he would surprise us.
We’re eagerly waiting.
Don’t spoil the anticipation.
I think the article will definitely bring controversy and may require a rulling by the Constitutional Court. I take it the use of the word “minimum” is the problem in the article. It may mean someone with a higher qualification such as a certificate in tailoring or catering may qualify to stand as president, mp or counselor even if they only reached grade 9 in secondary school. #foodforthought
Comment:Neutral
Go to article 110 clause 2 ,u will find the qualifications for a running mate which is the same as that of the president
@Boma
But has article 110 clause 2 just been secretly inserted to fix GBM after assenting to the bill at the poorly attended ceremony at Disaster Stadium?
There is no ambiquity, only confusion. Veep is automatically leader of business in parley, imlpying he is an MP and therefore requires a minimum grade 12 qualification under the new constitution. If anybody has a diploma because he was able to pay to avoid producing a grade 12 certificate to be enrolled in the diploma program, they should forget being VEEP, even being ordinary MP will be a pipe dream with our new constitution.. This is what the people of Zambia included in the new constitution and so it stands.
Inconveniencing to some though it might be, but it still stands!
Ur the people who were busy making noise about the new constitution….but now ur complaining..! U mean u were supporting a document u did not read? No grade 12 certificate or equivalent…no contesting..period! Wen kambwili calls u mad people u complain..but that is the truth…ur a batch of mad people..!
U are right lifwekelo most umpd cadres like HH,GBM,BANDA,KAKOMA,MWIIMBU,MWIITWA HAVE NO GRADE 12 certificates shame.so DR BANDA HAS A GRADE 7 cert. With a medical adoctorate degree nowander he ran away from moh,even hh went to unza with a grade 7 cert. Mwiitwa former cop ran away bcoz he had a grade 7 cert.
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ECZ NO REPLCEMENT OF SCHOOL CERT. BY POLITICIANS WE SHALL TAKE IT THEY BOUGHT.
INTERPRETETION IF ONE HAS A DIPLOMA & NO G12 means that person was illigally trained bcos ecz requires one to have a grade 12 cert to be trained and obtain a certificate,degree,diploma etc ecz sets exams,marks and give certificates. Now if one got certificate,diploma means some one broke the rule or one obtain honour degree.pipo who do that shud be arrested and *police shud ask lifwekelo the pipo he…
Dr. Canicius Banda diligently earned his qudalifications. I was with him at David Kaunda Technical Secondary School from 1987 to 1989, thereafter, he was selected to go and study at UNZA. Subsequently studied medicine at Ridgeway campus. Do you still have a problem with that peope?
Fake colleges will admit you without a grade 12 certificate. That’s how rotten our education system has gone.
The poor reading culture at the highest level! You said you wanted a referendum and all those clauses including the yet yi come bill of rights were already there ! The entire leadership of UPND Didn’t even know the contents of the constitution ! What kind of leaders are these? If at all you get into power you may even sign papers selling Zambia since you don’t read! I can only advise you to read the bill of rights! The rest is now law!
@jacom zume i dnt agree with u that our education system is rooten….even u knw without finishing skul does not mean ur rooten but that u have not gone thru wat is expected of u according to the western education…yes in our african system u dnt have to have a grade 12 but rather just to knw the norms and morality of system….but we are in a new era ma bro…NO G12….NO STANDING FOR GOVT POSITION AND INFACT ONE SHOULD NOT EVEN BE NORMINATED AS MP OR AS MINISTER AND OR EVEN DC. pantu ba DC nabo ekwafula abashapwisha G12…… I DONT EXPECT LAZ TO RESPOND TO THIS BASELESS ARGUEMENT FROM UPND………
Where were you Lifwekelo to start getting confused now after the law has been passed? Having a diploma in whatever without G12 qualification is like crossing the bridge before you reach it. The question Lifwekelo should ask is CAN ONE BE ADMITTED TO TAKE A COURSE AT DIPLOMA OR DEGREE LEVEL WITHOUT GRADE 12 QUALIFICATION? Yes we have known of conferred degrees like the one queen Elizabeth gave to one Odell who never went to secondary school but became famous and rich through his works.
Anyway, the LAZ is a sleeping giant and you’ve done good to wake them up for now.
u people it is very possible to obtain a diploma without a grade 12 certificate. I say so b’coz i have a sister who graduated in 2014 with a diploma in early childhood at pagron college of edu in Kabwe, she had no maths & science when she was accepted same applies to GBM he has no grade 12 certificate but he has a diploma.
Small colleges are mainly after money from desperate students. That’s how come the enrol even those that do not meet the minimum entry requirements. However in most cases these students end up not writing their final college exams since these exams are administered by ECZ or TEVETA that demand for proper entry grades. In that case the college would have already reaped its tuition fees and the student loses out. Its therefore important that students re-write GCE to improve their entrance grades prior to their final college exams if they had entered without the necessary grades.
WHO IS SUPPOSE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION IS IT ECZ/ECZ ELECTRO OR LAZ.WHY ASK LAZ FIRST INSTEAD OF THE OWNERS OF THESE CERTIFICATES IE ECZ.
YOU WANT A QUICK FAVOUR FROM LAZ?
I CAN SMELL A BIG BOND WITH A BIG BONE CONNECTING THE TWO LAZ & UPND
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we had a situation at UNZA where one lecturer had a Masters and no degree. how is that
A Master of… is a degree. You must mean a Bachelor’s degree.
Benson. You do what is known as a bridging course. Masters is a degree. Masters is a degree you obtain as a Post Graduate Qualification with some having a diploma or any equivalent as a pre-requisite for admission. I know a number of guys who have Masters and MBAs after obtaining Diplomas
BENSON CHOOBE! Puhleez!!! You’re embarrassing.
Guys what lifwekelo is saying is very true remember when mmd wanted to block Sata from standing coz of degree sata produced a degree in political science can some one tell me if Sata had a grade twelve certificate or its equlvalent coz the records shows that Mr sat was grade 4
Asking LAZ,an interested party wont help u mr lifwekelo, the best institution is judiciary.
wat about DCs with no grade nine or twelve
I must say that I am really very confused with the turn of events. Before the president signed the Constitution it was a well know fact that UPND was party of educated intellectuals. The talked and bragged about this fact in every post. They also insinuated that PF is for illiterate Kaponyas. What has changed today? we are seeing more and more complaints about a simple grade 12 certificate coming from educated camp today. Surely in this day and age can a grade 12 certificate be an issue. I was also under the impression that a grade 12 certificate or equivalent is prerequisite to higher education now how can someone have much higher education without its prerequisite?
It helps to be educated but it is not the measure of one’s ability, competence or even intelligence. That is why, personally, this ‘grade 12’ requirement is one clause that I am not comfortable with. There are other ways of testing one’s philosophy and understanding than using an abstract academic threshold. Some people will definitely be discriminated on this score.
some people i always wonder. if the driver,office orderly and security guards to be employed one needs to have a grade twelve certificate, so how special are the councilors not to have.
There will be questions with this clause. For example, in some cases you can study for a Ph.D with only your first degree – no need for a masters. You can equally have a ‘trade’ certificate or diploma without a grade 12 qualification. Where does such a certificate stand?
the so called interlectuals surprises me and confuses me.their brains and thinking do not coordinate .they have been calling the pf as kaponyas and their not learned .now with the introduction of the twelve cert in the constitution they have started complaining .
This Likwelo guy is answering his own questions, just for politicking. I don’t see any ambiguity in the clause. ‘minimum‘ means ‘minimum’ (i.e. the lowest common denominator). What this means is if I produce a degree or diploma conferred by a recognisable, reputable and legitimate higher learning institution, I qualify and I don’t have to produce a high school certificate – pay attention to the 3 key words used. This is usually done so because it is inferred that in most cases (but not always), the prerequisite to be admitted into a diploma or bachelor’s degree is high school certificate. It very rare (particularly in the Commonwealth countries) to find admission to higher education without the school certificate prerequisite as a minimum. In rare cases, work…
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In these rare cases, work experience and other tacit knowledge and skills, and life experiences may be used for admission. Again rare. But regardless of how one was admitted, diploma or degree is hierarchically higher than a school certificate, so a person should still qualify.
Now there would be shoddy institutions conferring shoddy diplomas and degrees out there. This should be what UPND needs to focus their efforts and attention. And this where the Ministry of education come in (or UNZA, CBU, Examination Council of Zambia, colleges, etc.). I believe they would have records of institutions they recognize as legitimate or equivalent. If not they would write to them to seek answers. They have the right to reject a qualification (diploma or degree),…
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They have the right to reject a qualification (diploma or degree), purely from a technical standpoint, not political. When I moved overseas to do my degree, my uni didn’t give me ‘credit’ ffor the 2 years I studied at UNZA because they didn’t recognize it or thought it was inferior. My wife’s teaching diploma wasn’t recognised either and was asked to go and do a uni degree. I guess my point is ‘minimum’ should not be an issue or a point of contention. However the diploma or degree obtained may raise some questions and this where the definition and boundaries should be drawn.
By the way I thought the question should not be a LAZ QQn to interpret, but rather the department of education. The law is straight forward, but educational…
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By the way I thought the question should not be a LAZ QQn to interpret, but rather the department of education. The law is straight forward, but educational qualifications and what they mean, I believe, is what they are trying to seek. This ‘minimum’ qualification language is very common in the job markets and education admission.
For someone to hv a grade 12 certificate he/she shld hv a grade 7 and 9 certificate all those who dont hv shld also b disqualified we dont want for ifyaku forger’
This news from upnd simply confirms that GBM has no G12 certificate and using his money he has obtained a diploma or degree from these fake colleges and universities who only care about money!!BUT GBM WONT STAND IF HE HAS A DEGREE OR DIPLOMA MINUS G12 CERTIFICATE!!
70. (1) Subject to clause (2), a person is eligible to be elected
as a Member of Parliament, if that person—
………(d) has obtained, as a minimum academic qualification, a grade
twelve certificate or its equivalent;
I don’t understand why people are debating something which is straight forward. The equivalent to grade twelve certificate is the form five certificate.
When President Edgar Lungu advised the Zambians to read the contents of the draft bill before it was enacted into law where was Mr Lifwekelo & his UPND as well as their Supreme Leader HH to resurrect and start to discuss the contents of the constitution when a few months ago they were urging the PF to give Zambians a people driven constitution where this clause is…
Iwe don’t be a full. The Bonstitution Bill was debated and passed in Parliament. Its not the people of Zambia who passed it. Is Lifwekelo a member of Parliament? You also know very well that in Parliament, UPND members tried to block the Bill arguing that the Constitution should be passed through a referendum. You also claim that its a people driven constitution. What? Is a Bill of nine clauses a Constitution? How far did you go in school anyway? Do you even know a clause I wonder?
@Kambwali the questions you have raised clearly shows how unreasonable your are for the failure to debate maturely because of fear of the truth…
Let UPND find G12 certificate period.Ala crying babies.Pipo wanted that clause.U wanted new constitution even contracts were signed with NGOs.what’s the problem now?
This Up-down question is a curve ball aimed at getting answers for GBM. I’m told GBM was so intelligent he skipped grade 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, cerificate to do a Diploma in Tenderprenuer.
simple and straight forward just produce a grade 12 certificate capwa what else do you need,so now ubukopo bwamonekela ba upnd and NGOCC used to call for it to be released now that it has been released it has become an issue,just the way you used to go round campaigning is the way you should embrace it,you talked alot and insulted alot,but you did not read through umungulu ba swaini mwamona styopeti
Fellow bloggers. This provision is an effort to eliminate mediocrity which has been gathering pace over the years in our politics. Let’s not try to find loopholes to perpetuate it.
Guys let us look at this as an opportunity to make money. It appears at this speed if one opened up a night fast track Nursery school you can have even Politicians like GBM enrolling. Look at the potential that has been created by starting nursery night fast track schools all the way to grade 12. There is good money in there.
@hk, the example of MMD and Sata is irrelevant. Like all politicians including HH and his uPMD, MMD may have ranted about Sata’s lack of qualifications, but the ECZ did not ask for the qualifications mentioned by MMD and MMD did not challenge that at nomination. ECZ accepted Sata’s nomination, period!
I’m just wondering who these upnd fellows would have blamed if the referendum which they wanted was used to adopt the constitution. Worse still if lots of funds were injected in the referendum and later on flops due to numbers. Upnd is a party which is visionless and no direction. Of anyone thought it’s pf you were wrong. Honestly how do you proceed to G9 without G7 certificate and how do you proceed to G12 without G9 worse how do you proceed to college/university without G12? Intellectuals for sure. Truelly laughable.
Iwe ka lifwekelo if you know someone with degree or diploma without G12 certificate just report him to police straight away. Why involve laz on this criminal thing. We hear even HH didn’t clear at unza.
Just to add my voice to this debate. Like everybody else who thinks normally, I agree that Lifwekelo and uPMD should have read the Clause before debating. To my knowledge their MPs (including lawyers) debated without mentioning the clause. Therefore it was not amended as uPMD wnats now. And don’t suggest that PF tampered with the Clause or rigged the amendment (as uPMD always likes to cry like a baby).
As for those who may not qualify, they are very few, so what is special about them compared to many others who equally will not qualify? To enter the police force, one must be able bodied, is that discrimination? Yes it is, but we live with it because we understand the necessity of an able bodied man for that kind of work. I have never heard a disabled person challenge that. Listen uPMD,…
As for uPMD challenging the Clause in court when nominations come, surprise surprise that coming from uPMD. Are they not the ones who are in a hurry to get rid of Lungu from State House and replace him with underfive at the earliest opportunity, even today? Or am I mistaken like they are? Wonders never stop in Zambia! If they do that, Edgar will continue in office by default!!!! for as long as the matter is in court, maybe another five years? kikikikikiki
Life keloid and the entire UPND are very dull! This document was there for people to read through before it became law.
There is a very good and strong reason a grade 12 certificate was designed. It’s an assurance to any higher examining body that one will get a natural progression in other higher and difficulty courses as they progress.
If you can’t pass at grade 12, how do you expect to understand and pass difficulty courses at college or university level?
It’s like one rushing to get a fake masters degree without an under graduate degree.
So an authentic and genuine grade 12 certificate is a must I our situation. SO ECZ YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS WORK TO DO TO VERIFY OUR QUALIFICATIONS AT CERTAIN LEVELS.
NO SHORT CUTS MUST ENTERTAINED BECAUSE IT’S A SERIOUS CRIME TO FORGE A…
Somebody has the high school diploma from USA through distance learning, he has no Zambian school certificate and he has Degree from USA, does he qualify?
Rodrigos – Get yourself a dictionary and look for the word “equivalent”.
This what the minister was talking about, UPND 272,182. PF 20,937, UNIP 1,396 these were the results from southern province in the january 20 , 2015. Can someone convert these into percentages. Justisfy these figures
First and for most , where is Mushota from Scotland, the only Bemba amomg the Bembas.
Secondly, Chishimba Kamwili the spanner boy and and fake makanika who who speaks through his loose anus celebrated his his useless degree from an unclassified basic school and even stole money from government to advertise his qualification in readiness for the presidential election just before I died. Leave GBM, who knows he might have as well obtained his grade 12 certificate from PAULU MUZIND Universty
This part of the law is discriminating and should be revised as soon as possible. It is true that we have people who dropped in grade nine and went to study at those trade schools which were common in every provincial headquarters back in the days. Most of those people got diplomas and other went further to get degrees etc. Therefore, it would be unfair to ask aspiring candidates to produce grade twelve certificates only. We should encourage the populace to get trade qualifications and let us not limit to people to grade twelve like it is even free to acquire it. It is a pity that we still ask for grade twelve leaving certificates even when we want to hire someone with a masters and some years of experience, I wonder what the logic is!
We need to familiarise ourselves with Qualifications certified by the Zambia Qualifications Authority.Zambia has adopted what is called a National Qualification Framework. A trade certificate is Equivalent to Grade 12. Some Institutions do not require attainment of School Certificate for One to enroll in an Educational Program.. Bloggers read the Zambia Qualifications Authority Act No.13 of 2011
Yes for now, things are justified on the leadership qualifications. I wonder why people complain to everything! That current assented constitution has passed through several stages from districts, Provincial and finally National level. And that qualification slot as contributed by the same Zambians has always been there. When President Lungu delayed just for a week to sign it, the same people called him names that he was fearing or they needed to Doctor it before signing. Now that he has signed, another question involving qualifications has become paramount or rather a wrong one. We can indeed accept that it is difficult to please a human being. Suffice to mention that the current debate might be worth it, I wonder what the group against the educated to lead felt when a Grade 7 MP was…