Tuesday, April 23, 2024

HH confirms UPND will petition President Lungu’s re-election

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HH flanked by Mr Mwamba and Dr Banda_1
HH flanked by Mr Mwamba and Dr Banda_1

UPND President Hakainde Hichilema has described the re-election of President Edgar Lungu as a coup on Zambia’s democratic process.

Mr Hichilema said the will of the people has been changed in an illegal and undemocratic way.

He has since announced that the UPND will file a petition in the constitutional court to challenge President Lungu’s victory.

Mr Hichilema disclosed this during a press briefing this evening.

“Firstly we wish to thank our supporters from the bottom of our heart. We are truly grateful for your support, hard work and dedication throughout the election period. Today the PF has effected a coup on Zambia’s democratic process,” Mr Hichilema said.

“The will of the people has been changed in an illegal and undemocratic way. We submitted evidence before the declaration of the results regarding the gross irregularities that have taken place,” he said.

Mr Hichilema said in any free, fair, transparent and democratic system this would have been enough to prompt a recount in the affected areas but that Zambia no longer operates that way.

“The ECZ has taken the decision away from the people. Zambians made their decision on Thursday. That decision has not been respected. During these delays the PF have acted with impunity to change the result,” he said.

Mr Hichilema said the UPND team endured countless obstacles and perversions of democracy throughout the campaign period and that it cannot now accept the manipulation of the vote itself.

“That is why we will not accept the result. We will be launching a Constitutional Court petition on the basis of the evidence we have collated and presented to the ECZ,” he said.

“As the Constitution sets out, once we have launched our petition then there must be no inauguration until the matter is settled in the court. This is according to a provision in the new Constitutional Amendment Bill that Edgar Lungu himself assented to just a few months ago.”

He said the independence of the ECZ has been compromised, after coming under pressure from the PF.
“We will now place our faith in the Constitutional Court, in the people of Zambia.”

He said the grounds on which the party will launch the petition are many, but they include the withholding of G12 forms from UPND’s polling agents in order to enable tampering with the results in favour of the PF.

“Without authenticated certificates for the stations there is no validity in the totalling process. The ECZ itself acknowledged this fact, agreeing to a verification and recount of votes in Lusaka district and the formation of a task team to oversee the process just yesterday afternoon, before the decision was later reversed under pressure from the President Lungu,” he said.

Mr Hichilema also cited the intimidation of party agents at polling stations during the counting process, whereby PF supporters physically kicked them out before having uncontrolled access to the ballot boxes.
“Discrepancies in the vote count and the result issued by the totalling centre, for example the case of the 14,039 missing UPND votes in Kanyama that were later found in the bin. Once these were input our vote went from 17,985 to 32,024. Even after this, however, the ECZ announced a figure of 30,892. We are compiling a list of other such instances to present to the courts.”

“Instances where a higher number of votes were cast than registered voters. For example, at Kamanga polling station in Munali constituency where there were 714 more votes cast than registered voters. The discovery of pre-marked ballot papers outside of ZAF HQ in Lusaka as late as Sunday morning,” he said.
Mr Hichilema said the UPND has specific evidence of gross irregularities in a number of constituencies, including all of the Lusaka urban constituencies, namely Kanyama, Munali, Chawama, Mandevu, Lusaka Central, Matero and Kabwata.

“If we fail to stand up for our democracy today then we undermine our prospects for peace and development in the weeks, months and years to come.”

“Finally, we call on Lungu to stop brutalising our supporters. Across the country’s markets, bus stops, taxi ranks and their work places our supporters have been victimised. This must stop right now. Zambians have a democratic right to vote for a leader of their choice. We will not return to a one-party state. We have come a long way and now is not the time to give up. We don’t give up,” he said.

“To our members, our supporters and our sympathisers, I thank you once again. I am asking you to remain united. I am asking you to hold each other’s hands and support one another because we need you now more than ever.”

UPND members listening to Mr Hichilema's address
UPND members listening to Mr Hichilema’s address
HH flanked by Mr Mwamba and Dr Banda
HH flanked by Mr Mwamba and Dr Banda

190 COMMENTS

    • Ikalenifye. In every election they’re winners and losers. Why is it difficult to understand. Your people in southern, north western voted for you but numbers were not enough. It’s time for GBM to take over.

    • Lungu’s exit is guaranteed, I ‘ll walk naked from KK to town center where I will seat on a charcoal brazer to burn my own genitals if he wins –Australia based Zambian Professor Nalukui Nawa has vowed. Lungu has own please bring your genital for roasting.

    • “We will now place our faith in the Constitutional Court, in the people of Zambia.”……….no mention of faith in God. Anyway,we told you that there was no wind of change. ECZ was gracious enough to allow the 10 year olds you registered as voters in Southern province……….you still lost.

    • International community knows those elections were rigged! Let the IMF come and Zambians enjoy the economy. 2016 Zambian does not even produce anything and right know the government is asking a loan . By January 25kg of meal mealie will be k 300 .k 1 to $20

    • By January 80% of Zambians will be leaving below poverty , since the can’t rigger the economy. Kwacha will collapse to the lowest that’s when Zambians will know how the economy works .

    • STOP calling him President Lungu, just stop.
      Edgar never won any elections, he once stole votes from Miles Sampa.

    • Today is the last time the Skeleton Key ~206~ body bones will ever again blog & comment on Lusaka Times.
      In this manner of speaking, ~The Skeleton Key with ~206~ body bones wishes to make it clear that I’ll miss many of my fellow scholarly, knowledgeable in wisdom mates like~Jacob, Jay~Jay, Ndobo, Nostradamus & many others in visionless PF, Katondo Boys, Kudos, Yambayamba,Nubian Princess etc.
      I wish you all the Lusaka Times Staff, Bloggers & Readers the best of luck for life.
      Love One Another!
      The One & Only,
      The Skeleton Key
      ~206~

    • Halusa Hagain only has himself to blame. You and the chief katubi GBM blatantly insulted, disrespected, taunted and bullied ECL to the point you made him an underdog in the elections. But guess what, people love underdogs and that’s the reason they voted for ECL! Am sure you where also hoping the international community to side with you, guess what they know the deal! They ate the free lunch you provided but now it’s deuces!

    • Uko!
      Any normal human being can agree with HH & UPND!

      For real, the choice & will of the people in a fake “christian” yet tribalistic “nation” has corruptly, illegally, invariably & with pomposity of fraudulent means been hacked by undemocratic selfish few elements.
      The violent PFs visionless Lungu failed to bypass the 50+1 threshold despite massive rigging partnered with ECZ. ECZ on purpose & many times have always ignominiously quickened dismissing than adhere to the stakeholders queries, esp HH~UPND.
      The ECZ unquantifiable & miscellaneously with their selfish perceptions, assumed that the visionless Lungu+his illiterate violent bandits as victors’ when in fact NOT! HH is realistic & truthful to rightly say that ECZ & incompetent PF have “effected a coup” on democratic…

    • ….rights of Zambians. The undemocratic, unprofessional & unsubstantiated compromised ECZ has illegally tramped upon the choice of will to many people. ECZ has lost its credibility due to the tolerance of satanic cadreism & in partnership with PF bandits of Lungu, they have satanically suppressed democracy with selfish impunity.
      Skeleton Key
      ~206~

    • Upnd leaders and it’s followers are not serious. You only won 3.5 provinces out of 10. PF wn 6.5 provinces. PF won far more MPs than your party. PF won in 2 provinces with biggest population in Zambia. Where do you get the idea you won. Instead you should be ashamed with your tribalism. Zambia should never be led by such a tribal party.
      Edgar is humble and never selfish that is why people love him. HH and your GBM are to proud because they have money. That will not win them votes. Mwanawasa, RB, Sata and Edgar are all poor people and have all beaten rich HH before. That should have been enough to learn from.
      Sa same judges you keep insulting because they are poor will be hearing your petition. Good luck.

    • Grow up you HH. You have just been beaten in a clean and transparent way. You lost because of your peoples tribal tendecies. Move on !

    • ECZ have shut their website after announcing wrong figures that declared Lungu a president (?).
      Please help me with this ECL scored this 1,860,877 and HH scored 1,760,347 total number of votes cast 3,781,505 in percentage terms ECL 49.21% and HH 46.55% what’s meaning of 50% plus 1 was not attained. These raises serious constitutional and mathematical errors.

    • Thank you HH and for all true supporters of democracy. I refuse to call Mr Lungu the President of Zambia, he is the president of PF, period. International observers, what a joke!! What did you even come to monitor? To push your IMF agenda? The UNZA Don was so right. Why call such elections free and fair like are blind and deaf? Congratulating Mr Lungu for being “re-elected” is the same as congratulating a thief the next day at a stop-light while he is driving the automobile he stole from you the previous night using violence, intimidation, manipulation and deceit. Mrs Mwanawasa, you can suck up to Mr Lungu by yourself, if you really wrote that stupid congratulatory message on your face book page. I hope you didnt. The Christians for Lungu can call me all names, I dont care. Before you…

    • contd…
      Before you give me that cliche that Mr Lungu was chosen by God, please also qualify the “re-election” of Mugabe and Museveni, cause to me, the three guys are exactly the same and they are good friends, too.

      Opposition, please include the illegal occupation of offices by ministers till 2 days before elections, the biased ZNBC that rejected paid for commercials, the killing of Mapenzi, cancellation of opposition rallies at last minute, violence by PF on opposition supporters, printing of ballots in that fake Dubai printing company, the closing of The Post just before elections over disputed tax amounts, tribal speech from Chama, Kambwili, Mumbi, etc., reprinting of some ballots without observers from other parties, grounding of your campaign choppers, stoning of your…

    • contd..
      …grounding of your campaign choppers, stoning of your campaign bus in Mandevu, transportation of ballot boxes in the middle of the night without notifying the opposition observers, the IT hacker who was found in the restricted server room, failing to produce the G12 form for Lusaka results verification, the wicked corrupt ECZ, especially Priscilla Isaac, etc., etc.

      Any sober Judge can nullify these election results. The evidence is overwhelming!! Let’s now see what the so-called independent Constitutional Court will say. The ruled against the illegal stay of ministers in their offices. That alone is enough ground to disqualify all PF MP’s who were re-elected and enough grounds to cancel the results of these elections. Zambia deserves better. Those with eye can see a similar…

    • Zambia is the only country in the world where ruling party flags are flown everywhere at bus stops and markets.n our own These flags have become more important than our own one Zambia one nation flag. Something is very wrong. We need law and order for real development of our society to take place. Hats off to HH for fighting for the peoples rights.

    • contd..
      Those with eyes can see a similar thing that happened to both Zimbabwe and Uganda. That’s where Mr Lungu got his inspiration. Fortunately, this is not those countries, I hope. You can call me names, you can call me Tonga or Bitter or whatever you deem right, I dont care. I hate such injustices on innocent people. In fact, Im not even Tonga but Lamba. Call me a Tonga sympathizer, Mbuya, Lozi, Luvale, Nsenga, I dont care. Every Zambian has a right to fair treatment. Why do we vote then if the votes will be manipulated like this? We are ready to support a President who wins cleanly, not this trash of an election. Anyway, I have said enough.

    • HH we the people refuse to be ruled by you. If you want to take that route. We will show you. We the PF in the 7 Province want to read by Lungu.

      Go to hell. You have lost. Do you think that the CC will take that risk. You must be out if your mind.

    • All you PF faggots and retards do not realise that the figures ECZ announced do not amount to 50.3%. It is actually 48.7%. The goons could’nt even calculate properly.

    • Please accept defeat. True Zambians do not want a civil war. If there was any malpractice then pf’s downfall is inevitable. Karma will catch up with pf if there has been any wrong doing by pf . Look what happened to Rupiah Banda. Accept defeat so that Zambians can continue to live in peace. Zambia may become more impoverished under pf Lungu but at least there will be peace. Time for a better generation to start preparing to lead Zambia. PF and UPND have only divided the country. My conclusion is that both parties are a disgrace to Zambia. Their leaders are not true Zambians as they cannot unite all tribes of Zambia. Kenneth Kaunda managed to unite Zambians from ever tribe. MP’s would serve outside their tribes. For example a bemba mp for southern province. Shame and disgraceful old men…

    • HH has not said a single word to his members, supporters and sympathisers to stop rioting. While he sits in a comfortable AC room to address the public people are burning shops and inconveniencing motorists in Southern Province. hooligans are taking advantage of the rumpus.
      Even if elections are declared not free, will it bring back properties lost, lives lost and the inconvenience created for travelling public? Just think for a minute, Constitutional Court has human beings and they have to take in view the bigger picture, if they rule otherwise, it will be turn of PF cadres, supporters and sympathisers to riot then and that too in the backyards of HH and GBM.
      HH is not showing maturity by not condemning riots and telling his supporters to go back to work and let Courts decide. By not…

    • HH is not showing maturity by not condemning riots and telling his supporters to go back to work and let Courts decide. By not doing that, he will reap what he has sowed, an equal force from PF members, supporters if any judgement comes against them or even before.
      HH and GBM Zambia is bigger than any individual(s)!
      Stop this militancy and calling names. Even if you are elected, you would not inherit a good vibe.

    • Dundumwezi, Dundumwezi, Dundumwezi, Dundumwezi, Dundumwezi, Dundumwezi…………Zidununa, Zidununa,Zidununa,Zidununa…..Gameover!

    • All well wishers of PF and President Lungu shall note the following:

      1. Section 105 is the section for swearing in of the
      President Elect.

      2. Sub-section 105(2) states that The President
      elect shall be sworn into office on Tuesday
      following-
      (a) the seventh day after the date of declaration
      of the presidential election results, if no
      petition has been filed in accordance with
      Article 103; or
      (b) the seventh day after the date on which the
      Constitutional Court declares the elections
      to be valid.

      3. Please note -Article 101 of the Constitution deals
      with Presidential elections
      Article 101 has its own appeal provisions to
      Constitution Court,…

    • 3. Please note -Article 101 of the Constitution deals
      with Presidential elections
      Article 101 has its own appeal provisions to
      Constitution Court, complete in all respects.

      4. Article 102 deals with Disqualifications for RUN
      OFF.

      5 Article 103 follows with similar provisions (ditto
      of Article 101) for a petition to Constitution Court
      in case a petition is made to Constitutional Court
      for nullification of President Elect.
      6. This Article is immediately after Article 102
      which covers Disqualification for RUN OFF
      7. Article 105 (2) (a) mandates that a President
      elect shall be sworn into office by the Chief
      Justice, if no petition is filed under Article 103.
      8. What it means is that President Lungu who…

    • 8. What it means is that President Lungu who has been declared President Elect under First Ballot, qualifies to be sworn in under Article 105(2) (a) as any petition to the Constitution Court by UPND, HH or any other person falls under Article 101 and not under Article 103. Any petition filed under Article 103 will automatically be defective and thrown out. The Chief Justice is under obligation as per the Constitution to swear into office President Lungu
      9. Article 103 (3) talking about Speaker acting as President during the period of a petition to Constitutional Court does not apply to President elect who is so declared by the Returning Officer under Article 101 (first ballot)

      10. This Article is further strengthened by Article 106(2) which states that – A President shall hold office…

    • 10. This Article is further strengthened by Article 106(2) which states that – A President shall hold office from the date the President elect is sworn into office and ending on the date the next President Elect is sworn into office

      11. Constitutional logic is that a President Elect who is an incumbent and is declared a winner on First Ballot has the mandate of the voters under previous elections to continue as President till a new President elect is declared by Returning Officer or in case of an appeal till second ballot results are declared and if an petition is made then Speaker shall take over as his mandate from second ballot is challenged.

  1. You are a fool then. The will of the people was to have lungu as president again not what you are saying hh. Don’t even waste your time, as gbm, he knows what you are trying to do won’t work

  2. I hope they manage to rig the economy too.
    With Kaizar Zulu being vice president & Inonge Wina sidelined. Lawlessness, abuse & corruption will be the order of the day. This will all be happening behind the curtains while we see Chagwa worshiping in temples. People will be maimed & slaughtered in cold blood but again, amongst us, the few sane ones will be the ones to see the extent of the rot.
    I hope Zambia saves itself. Those that think everything is okay with our democracy, I hope you’re right!

    • They CAN’T rig the economy, the World Bank, Bank of China & IMF are on PF’s gluttonous throats.
      Load shedding & poverty will be flea in many hunger stricken majority Zambians.
      By January 17, the Zambian currency ‘ll be K25 per $1 & the people will dance pelete!
      ~206~
      The Skeleton Key

    • Lungu and his minions do not have the intellectual muscle and honesty to run the economy. Sit back, relax and watch how Zambia collapses economically from now onwards. You do not have to do anything – just watch and be awed.

  3. Cheers to you our illiterate voters and low income earners , cheers to the next five years of poverty and economic hardships , for us the educated vote we shall continue to work in our air conditioned offices while you will continue roam the streets hustling for k 20 sale just to put food on the table , we will not be moved by your suffering because you have told us that this is the life you love and know . If you thought the last year was tough , brace yourselves because this ride will not be for the fainted hearted !!!!!!!!!!

    • Why are you wishing people who voted for other candidates rather than yours evil? “Do unto others as you would like others to do unto you”. I voted HH but he has lost and taken case to the constitutional court. So let us leave the court to do its work. Don’t make judgements about the outcome of the court unless you will be in court.

      Please Please tempers down !!!!!!!!!!

    • Planzo,are you a truly educated person?Any way,education or intellect is not wisdom.You may be educated but you are evidently not wise.Never belittle other human beings regardless of their status.It is mainly because of your attitude,that’s why you are being led by people you belittle.If you have the heart for your country and its people,you can make positive contribution in which ever party and under which ever president.Lets not cry or be bitter with situations which we as units can not change.As units we each can make another person happy,we can help improve each other and make our country a better place.

  4. This guy only thinks of himself, he doesn’t care if the country is burnt down to ashes. They will violence like you have never seen before should there be a delay in inauguration. You are doing this out of spite

  5. Have you noticed GBM lately ? Even this petition scares him coz he knows PF’s defence will raise the forged Grade 12 issue. Wina azalila nafuchi ! Tiye nayo !

  6. Under Five, please knock it off and be magnanimous. You’ll win more supporters. You have a realistic chance of making it in 2021. It’s not that far, and you wont even be as old as Sata or RB when they became presidents! UPND has started gaining national status. Build on that, address your supporters and tell them they can live to fight for another day.

    Your rigging story is really flawed and weak and if it is the evidence I have seen on your websites, I can flatly tell you that your evidence looks rigged and doctored. You will lose in court.

    Just cleanse and reorganize the party. Zambia needs a strong opposition

    • Good analysis MMD Chief Bootlicker- but as for him winning in 2021…Never…the tribalism he and his pipo have as demonstrated in this and last year’s election has only served to polarise the rest of the country- their hatred for pipo who hail from other regions has been laid bare.

  7. The three musketeers in the picture look confused, defeated, clueless and might possibly benefit from a good bed rest. You have lost, and that constitutional court you’re placing your faith in will soon be your target for cheap insults especially if things don’t go the Hakainde way. Concede defeat and get back to the drawing board. Drop GBM and stick to your game plan, Zambia loves you and I’m sure if you invite good strategy you might become the next president in 2021. BTW have some respect for President Lungu.

  8. Good bye Lusaka times ! Thanks for your wed site and thanks to wisdom people hear , skeleton key , ndobo , nosetradams, cat power , and everyone who cares for the Zambian future and the economy. To Zambians enjoy your economy the next 5 years and the IMF report coming in a few months. God bless

  9. It was going to be easier to “manipulate ” votes in distant places like Kaputa, but HH picks Lusaka basing this I guess on the large “rallies “. Just look at the number of MPs PF has garnered without even including the PF independents isn’t that not enough indication?

    • And those rallies used ferried cadres. In addition the two parties had enough support in Lusaka to fill Heroes stadium so that cant be used as an indicator of popularity.

  10. HH and team UPND just give up. We the people know you won.

    Zambia is a lawless country and nothing can be corrected.

    The PF hierarchy saw lungu make $2.3million in 1 year and they too want that and lungu wants more. There is no way they will let anyone rule.

    Hundreds of millions of dollars of public funds are there to loot and abuse, no way will they give that up. You must be dreaming if you think they can walk away from that.

    Just go back to your businesses.

    • $2.3 million is not much in Zambia. Houses sell for $1 million now. There is a lot of over evolution on the market. He probably just needed to build 4 houses and he is there. Perspective my friend

    • That $2.3 million was only the decleared loot, Do you know what is hidden ?
      Even still for a person who had zero 1 year ago $2.3milluon is a lot.

      Prospectivety mate.

  11. Why is homeless Banda wearing that ridiculous red beret? Honestly do these three musketeers instill confidence in anyone except UPND fundamentalist zealots and do they not come across as churlish and childish bad losers? HH is so desperate for the presidency that he forgets the fact that PF won by a landslide as regards MPs in Lusaka. Even if he was to be elected President how do you govern with such an overwhelming number of opposition MPs in parliament? He would basically have to use the Sata strategy of constant by-elections and appointing opposition MPs as deputy ministers to have any chance of passing laws. Again, HH is misfiring strategically, he would gain more respect and kudos now if he were to concede rather than coming across as a spoilt brat with a sense of entitlement.

    • Unfortunately, by-elections will be very costly to the candidate who causes the by-election. For a by-election to happen you must either cross the floor (defect to the other party – meaning you cannot stand in the subsequent by-election) or die (which no one wants). VERY VERY DIFFICULT TO CAUSE A BY-ELECTION WITHOUT SERIOUS COSTS TO ONESELF. New Constitution. Thanks

  12. Why complain as if you have ever beaten LUNGU or PF? Believe me half of the votes you have gotten came from PF adoption mistakes.wait for 2021 that’s when you will complain. You have taught us how to vote

  13. He is buying time buy diverting attension before the party turns on him. HH is finished and should step aside for a fresh face with real love of the country.

  14. HH has managed to hold UPND as a party. If he leaves now, he will leave with his head high. Without UPND, we are back to one party state. For this reason, we salute UPND. Strong opposition is good for the country.

  15. Going to the Con Court is a waste of time. If HH was serious about the country he could have started campaigns for 2021 the way Sata used to do. You look gloomy the trio of you. Like f00ls caught committing adultery. Cheer up. Sorry for losing so much money you thieves. I’m told you spent USD5 Million. How can you win with the number of MPs wishful thinkers. GO TO COURT AND WASTE YOUR TIME. VERY DULL. Teach those i.diots in Dundumwezi how to vote first. Otherwise you will NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER STEP FOOT IN STATE HOUSE.

  16. The three Mailoni brothers – is it just me or the Great Bag of Manure (GBM) has suddenly shrunk in size? HH be magnanimous, your actions henceforth will determine your future and that of the UPND. How can you just sit there with your bitter angry face while your rabid supporters tear down their own walls? Wow! I have zero respect for you.

  17. When Big tribe said UPND will cry, they disagreed. plse get it from me, I speak what I see and what I see I speak. for your info UPND is gone, this is just the beginning of birth pains. Congratulations Winners on online media

  18. The Supreme Leader HH of the UPND and his disgraced lawyer Martha Mushipe think they can win a case with bitterness and pride…A lot of issues will come out especially on GBM forged qualifications and UPND campaigning on the voting day in their strong holds which is well documented…Zambians will really know how warped and myopic The Supreme Leader HH of the UPND and Lawyer Mushipe are…and just like Kabimba have never won a genuine case…

  19. HH should just concede defeat and congratulate his friend ECL. By doing so he will surprise a lot of people and they will love him so much. He will have more supporters when the next elections come in 2021, for now it is game over.

    The following are important things for him.
    1- He should identify credible people around him and avoid ones with criminal records.
    2 – He needs image builders to correct his tempers and flares that largely manifest in him.
    3 – He should also realise that failure is not final, let him continue until his ambition is achieved. He has come a long way and almost on the brink of making it.
    4 – let him be selfless and realise that Zambia is bigger than him.
    5 – We love him because he wants to do something for Zambia but the right time has not come.
    6 – We…

    • From day one Upnd had vowed not to accept defeat. Remember they accused the printer as a specialist in vote rigging, next they chased every vehicle bearing a ECZ emblem. Now this. Please give us a break.
      .

    • @Zillion, Why are you giving HH advice? That is hypocritical. Are you in opposition? Only the people in opposition can criticise and give you advice. This is where we have gone wrong.

  20. Let him go to hell.international observers,local observers and Church mother bodies declared the elections free and so he shud just shut up and hung.

  21. UPND is the Arsenal of Zambian politics; always on top at the start, but tumbling in the finish. RoR! Raugh out Roud!

  22. Why are UPND supporters scared of openly showing their support? I bet so many UPND supporters were cheering when Lungu won…

    • PF members are ready to sacrifice their lives and other peoples lives just to win an election. UPND members are mature enough to understand that you do not have to kill or die for the sake of power but participate in a peaceful civilised society and processes. This is why they they ve decided to go to court. Wait until the election is nullified, that is when you ll distinguish between the two.

  23. We wait and see what this 5years will be. For Lungu it’s not time for excuses anymore but time to work and be serious or else people will rise and impeach him out of power. For HH it maybe time for him to let other people lead the UPND party. current electoral system needs a complete over haul , commissioners should apply for jobs and ratified by parliament unlike been appointed by President. Also Zambia has alot to do on civic education and importance of voting not on tribal lines but ideologies. In these age and time next elections should be carried out through electronic voting system at civic centres and districts across the country otherwise currently ballot voting system is open for rigging and votes manipulation.

  24. He should just accept the results.Why should he question Lusaka results when no one questioned Dudumwezi,Choma,kalomo etc in southern province where da sitting president got 200 votes.The chap can divide Zambia.We need to change the constitution as soon as possible using electoral college system.If u win more districts or provinces u become a president.I c divided Zambia with such kind of voting in southern province pantu tabakatekepo becuase Eastern,Northern,luapula,muchinga,cb and lsk will never vote for HH.He has brought terrible tribal politics in Zambia.lungu tried to unite the country but the voting pattern worries me n other Zambians.takwaba.please ba HH accept the results otherwise u’re bring chaos in Zed.Pantu u’ll be beaten by Zambians if u start playing tribal politics…

    • Its you who is being tribal. How come Chitulika gave HH 80 votes and Lungu 33,000? And you cry wolf over Dundumwezi.

      As for the division in the country, it is common cause. As to whether the Lozi-Luvale-Tonga group can survive on their own, well look at where the natural resource endowment lies.

      This election results MUST be contested to allow the ConCourt pronounce itself on what is a valid election. Or else the hooliganism of the PF will recur going forward.

  25. To start with Mr HH would have been president in previous elections if he wasnt surrounded by *****s who decompaign him namely zwd and a lot more others. He is a good good man in my opinion (and am not tonga and not gay am bemba ).For mr HH to win the next election and my vote let him preach love and convince his *****s that they cant win until they realize that Zambians dont like being insulted and they dont like people who are not humble .UNIP 1991 is a good example. UPND can do much but than PF if they put their house together. People voted for a lesser evil PF so did l.

  26. ook at this argument from another forum??????

    PEOPLE OF ZAMBIA WAKE UP TO THIS REALITY
    My fellow citizen I stand to be corrected if at all its me who has errored. My understanding of fifty percent plus one vote (50%+1) is that the candidate to be declared president must obtain 50% + 1 Vote of the total votes cast. if this is true then the Honorable Justice has grossly errored to declare Lungu has president elect.
    CONSIDER THESE FACTS:
    Total votes cast: 3,781,505 (100%)

    Votes obtained by Edgar Lungu 1,860,877 (49.21%)
    Votes obtained by HH 1,760,347 (46.55%)
    Votes obtained by others (4.24%)

    • One Zambia Muleishiba ukupenda bane. I totally agree with Kabwe Pande – VALID VOTES is what counts not total votes cast. Who are you going to give SPOILT VOTES?

    • Total Valid votes cast = 3,695,710. Is this gonna help…?

      Also, “…must obtain 50% + 1 Vote…”, WRONG.

      It’s 50% + 1 vote or MORE…

      Lungu’s MORE was 13,021 votes over and above the 50% + 1 threshold.

      Good day.

    • Read this potion of the constitution. And please next time READ or go back to school. Its very important
      “101. (1) A President shall be elected by registered voters in
      accordance with Article 47 (1) and this Article.
      (2) The Returning Officer shall declare the presidential
      candidate who receives more than fifty percent of the valid votes
      cast during the election as President-elect.
      (3) If at the initial ballot a presidential candidate does not receive”

  27. If you dare us, lusaka, eastern, parts of
    central, northen, luapula, muchinga, and cb
    will riot in full for ECL. Under five you can’t
    rule zambia with 40 mps from three
    provinces. Dont push us, when we go out
    the streets you ll have nowhere to hide.

  28. Every aggrieved person or institution has a right to seek legal redress in the courts of law. Let them go to court and be satisfied.

  29. First day of 1825days in zambia. Be observant and check what was happening in the world and Zambia in a year 1825 a similar month and day. ….Was it a choice?

  30. Lets face it….UPND and HH are saying they have won based on Tribal voting ( almost 100 % votes in southern,western and North western) , the area where they are rioting now….Lets suppose he is declared president after constitutional court overturns verdict…Does he think he can rule with the rest of zambia going on riots to refuse him (CB/Lusaka/Northern/Luapula/central) can he contain the eminent riots that will come from these areas…He is a joker!!! Lets give him a chance to win and see if he contain the riots from majority of zambians not Dundumwezi …..

  31. It’s hard to say good bye to my friend Mr X!
    cisuma bane shalenipo. see you in 2021!
    Good bye!

  32. IF PF are so confident that they won the elections legally why don’t they let it go to court, allow the recounts and then become the true and trusted winners. If they are honourable they would not want to be winners when the rest of the world know they cheated. The Olympics sorted out the cheats to ensure a level playing ground, the Zambian courts must do the same. This is the turning point for the legal system in Zambia, if the courts don’t work (as they so often don’t) Zambia is jelly for the crooks to eat. HH please fight for justice, Lungu you just keep going to Church for forgiveness, the courts, judges and lawyers be serious, this is about Zambia’s future not your latest merc! Police remember you work for Zambia not the PF. The law must come before anything else.

  33. The divide of this country is there for all to see. The Bemba-Chipata alliance pitted against the Luvale-Lozi-Tonga conclave.

    The voters turned up and expressed themselves in their strongholds. Chitulika Constituency gave ECL 33,477 and HH 89 votes. This was followed by a reply from Dundumwezi giving HH 30,000 and ECL 200.

    Lungu and PF have nothing to worry about if they won this election on the platform of the international standard of ‘free and fair’. The election petition will have to show prevalent incidents of:

    1. vote buying and/or corrupt practices
    2. uneven campaign space through denial of police permits and blackout by public media
    3. unmatched votes ‘cast’ compared to register
    4. mirror of combined mp votes with presidential vote
    5. voter intimidation…

    • 5. voter intimidation, beatings and thugs
      6. ballot stuffing
      7. flouting of electoral regulations
      8. violence such as stoning of buses, cars etc

      If non of these happened, Lungu can sleep safe and sound on a sustainable victory. If not, be warned. Election results are regularly nullified in Zambia. For presidential elections, the burden of proof is higher but not unmanageable as held in the case of KASHAMBATWA MBIKUSITA LEWANIKA AND OTHERS v FREDERICK JACOB TITUS CHILUBA S.C.Z. Judgment No. 14 of 1998 and the case of ANDERSON KAMBELA MAZOKA AND OTHERS v LEVY PATRICK MWANAWASA, THE ELECTORAL COMMISSION OF ZAMBIA, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL (2005) Z.R. 13

    • Dundumwezi is real but there is no Chitulika Constituency any where in Zambia, but on social media.
      Zambia does not deserve tribal parties and tribal leaders
      ONE ZAMBIA AND ONE NATION

  34. HH before you even consider that, let us visit the issue of the fake certificate by GBM.

    HH you will be embarrassed so bad

  35. UPND says they have been copying Sata’s style of politics, but why are u going to the courts, Sata never went there. One thing u don’t understand is that your time is not yet, and u forcing things, God’s time is the best.

  36. Aleke ifyabupuba we want to move on as a country.We told him that choosing GBM was a wrong choice but he never listened.Now they are beating other tribes in southern province.why?

  37. UPND supporters never cease to amaze me. It’s the Zambians who vote, not the international community. The international community was promised business contracts by the UPND mafia, so they are disappointed that they will not get their deals.

  38. @Gildmak Mutelo.
    Iwe,there is no chitulika constituency .There is only Mpika constituency where chitulika village is.Please understand that.Don’t be cheated by Watchdog.u’re so blind u UPND supporters.Mpika got 18,000 votes where 1,800.

  39. BROTHERS AND SISTERS WE NEED TO PRAY FOR HH AND UPND FOR GOD TO HAVE MERCY ON THEM TO COME DOWN TO REALITY. INSTEAD OF INSULTING THEM. OF COURSE THEY CAN GO TO COURT. AND WE KNOW THE VERDICT. THAT TOO MAY BE PAINFUL LIKE ADDING SALT TO A FRESH SORE.

  40. Its Africa HH needs to put pressure like late Sata did….he was insulted, mocked but in the end prevailed….. nothing will change ECL had a lot to lose these hence once in a while an evil hand needed to be allowed so PF stays in power….Just move forward HH

    • When Satas supporters rioted it didn’t overturn the result. He had to campaign and campaign and campaign to finally win

  41. HH is the most foolish politician since independence. This man is so egocentric and feels its all about him. Those demons in his must be taken out. What rigging? Lusaka never voted for you and you crying foul? Atase.We have had enough of this charlatan

  42. I told you bantustan *****s that your cow hh with dungs in his pants will never win elections.have you ever watched “sometimes in april”we will start asking for your nrc’s if you happen to have come from neganega(southern) you will be in trouble.

  43. Time for new generation of leaders to start preparing themselves.

    Generation 1960-1975 have ruined Zambia. Characterized by corruption, dishonesty, lack of integrity,poor skills, HIV, discrimination against women, no vision, poverty, selling Zambian assets to Lebanese, Greek and Indian cartels etc

    Generation 1976 and beyond- Have great challenge ahead but can fix this mess generation 1960-1975 have created. Some of their characteristics are: share the same work ethic as their grand -parents, seek prosperity for Zambia, want to retrieve Zambian assets from foreigners, reject corruption, moto is one Zambia, one nation, innovative, do not believe in tribal barriers, visionary like their grand -parents who fought for freedom.

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  44. If we had to go for another election as things have shown, HH would be embarrassed as we’d not be so generous as to give him the thousands of votes we gave him in our consitituencies. We now know how to vote properly.

  45. UPND, you were bitten by over 100,000 votes & whichever way you look @ it you were 2nd best. It is unlikely you will find those votes anywhere in Lusaka to match PF as independent PVT from credible institutions has confirmed the tally by ECZ. It is even more difficult to use manufactured evidence when whole world is watching. As long as you rely on current voting pattern in pursuit of Tonga domination victory will always elude you. Rethink your strategy & be more uniting than divisive. Rest of Zambia also needs your vote. Pride leads to destruction & arrogance to downfall (Prov 16:18).

  46. The problem with hakainde is that he had won the elections before we voted, that he was every time he came in contact with znbc or police he would tell them Iam firing after election. Now how can you vote for someone who is going to fire from employment? This man has to change his way of doing things.

  47. Iwe HH and evil UPND, you think we don’t know the dark corner meetings that you and your tribesmates were having?
    Well, you thought you were clever than us and called us names but little did you realise that we are swift and lethal.
    Please give us a break ‘ cause we got work to do, to develop Lusaka, Copperbelt Central, Northern circuit and Eastern power and create employment for our youths. Meantime let your tribesmate and cousins in Southern, N/W & Western reap what they sow.

  48. HH lacks statesmanship and maturity. This is the time to show that Zambia is above all including him and he concede gracefully. He will score kudos for future.

  49. Somebody tell this under five and silly
    Pastor turned politician that seven provinces have spoken. If they push, the rwanda genocide is not far from zambia

  50. THERE IS COMFLICT MANAGEMENT AND OPPORTUNITY AT POLLING STATION LEVEL
    ALL PARTY STAKE HOLDERS PARTICIPATE IN ANY COMFLICT MANAGEMENT INCLUDING CIVIL SOCIETIES LIKE THE CHURCH AND NO ELECTIONS RESULTS ARE ANNOUNCED BEFORE COMFIRMATION AND AGREEMENT

    ITS A SHARE WASTE OF TIME AND RESOURCES TO DISPUTE YOUR AGENTS AND PUSH THE COMFLICTS THAT WHERE RESOLVED AND AGREED AS AGREED WHEN THE DECLATIONS WHERE BEING MADE FOR RESULTS ANNOUNCEMENT

    ITS ACTUALLY A WASTE OF TIME FOR INDIVIDUALS AND COURTS WHEN YOU LOSE YOU HAVE LOST SPARE THE MEGRE NATIONAL RESOURCES THAT ON INDIVIDUAL LEVEL AND NATIONAL CAN MOVE THIS COUNTRY FROM THESE ELECTIONS YOU HAVE LOST AND…

  51. AND PLEASE BA UPND DO NOT USE THAT LAWYER OF YOURS CALLED MARTHA MUSHIPE. SHE WILL EMBARRASS YOU WITH HER TANTRUMS.
    SHE HAS REACHED MENOPAUSE SO SHE IS SUFFERING FROM MENOPAUSAL SYMPTOMS WHICH INCLUDE; HYSTERIA, ANXIETY, IRRITABILITY,AGGRESSIVENESS, DIFFICULT TO CONCENTRATE, MOOD CHANGES. SHE MAY MESS YOUR CASE UP.
    TRY TO USE YOUR LAWYERS LIKE JACK MWIMBU ETC WHO MAY BE MORE REASONABLE.

  52. AND YOU WILL NEVER WIN HANDLE OVER TO ANOTHER CAPABLE UPND LEADER YOU WILL NEVER WIN EVEN IF YOU STOOD IN 2021

    NOW GBM IS NOT INTERESTED AND HAVE SEEN THAT YOU CAN NOT WIN 2021 AND LATER 2026

    IN TERMS OF EONOMIC MANAGER YOU SPEAK ABOUT YOU ARE CTUAL A RISK TOO HIGH FOR ZAMBIA IN TERMS OF GEOPOLITICAL AND ACONOMICS AND YOU ARE ACTUALLY ADDING TO THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS IN ZAMBIA YOU SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND THE GEOPOLITICAL RISKS EFFECTS ON INVESTORS AN INDIVIUAL BUSINESS OWNERS

    VOTES EXHIBIT UNCERTAINITY AND YOU CANNOT BE SURE EVEN THEN YOU ARE WEAKER POLITICALLY

    LUNGU HAS A POLICY FOR WHICH PEOPLE VOTED BUT YOU YOU HAVE ONLY…

  53. All peace loving and well meaning Zambians who are level headed need to worry about the patterns of voter support that exhibits a serious regional alienation; the divide that has been exhibited based on pure allegiance to area of origin of the presidential candidates and tribal proximities is a serious source of concern.

    Even all of you discussing on this platform are aligned purely on your origin and tribal proximity. What kind of a country are we building here?

    When will the people of Zambia learn to discuss matters based purely on substance, and to also vote for their favorite politicians informed by the articulated policies and strategic thrust?

    This is a more worrying matter for me than who won or who did not.

    • And you have hit the nail of the head. Its a fact. Zambia is split. Two regions or is it three?

      1. Barotseland (West, North Western, mid Central, Southern ie. Lozi, Luvale, Lamba, Bantubotatwe
      2. North and East (Bemba and Chewa/Ngoni)
      3. Urban areas (Lusaka and C/belt)

      I bet you my six pence, voting is tribal and regional. The one who will enter State House has to appeal to the urban poor as the two regions cancel each other out in terms of numbers.

      Zambia is tribal and violent; don’t be deceived by the niceties.

    • Steven. Excellent way of looking at the issue. More people who are level headed needed. At the end of it all we MUST unite as one nation. Lets us not be too emotional. Let us NOT START SOMETHING WE CANNOT FINISH. As Doctors often say BREATH IN DEEPLY. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TAKE IT EASY.

  54. LUNGU HAS A POLICY FOR WHICH PEOPLE VOTED BUT YOU YOU HAVE ONLY A NARRATIVE IN THE 10 POINT PLAN NO WONDER THE MCS CALLED YOU UNDER 5

    THANKS LUSAKA TIMES FOR THE OPPORTUNITY YOU ARE BETTER AND INTERLECTUALLY SOUND AND BETTER THAN THE FAKE SPECULATIVE AND UNBALANCED ZAMBIAN WATCHDOG

    UPND FIND ANOTHER LEADER WASTING TIME WITH HH

    SEE YOU IN 2021

    ///////////////////////////

  55. You can never win an election in a Christian nation by voting on tribe lines. ECL you are a man of God. Voting for a person not for development, shallow minded people with stone age type of thinking in this generation. Mwashalila kunuma ngamatako.

  56. Not the will Zambians but the will southerners,who told you that we love you,uko kwine were they worship you.if we are to vote again still you cant win mambara jst retire.

  57. Weak souls are busy insulting HH. Just argue as if there is a brain between your two ears. Assuming there was no brain, at least pretend its there. HH and ECL are both sons of Zambia, and their opinions must be respected, not matter our POLITICAL differences. These are just political differences,It should not be a matter of life and death, Osatukwana amambara, nizaku kwapulani ngati musobela shaa

  58. Moooh. Mooooooooh . Mooooooooooh.
    Chuundu Chaitwa. Aleisa.Aleisa.
    Vote Hakainde Hichilema on 11th August, 2116. Victory is Certain.

  59. It is over and it is done. HH lost because he had dellusions about his support in Lusaka. Lusaka finally turned up and former MMD structures were harnessed by the PF. The only person whose votes were likely to have been stolen is Edith Nawakwi (to avoid a re-run). There is no logical way that HH could have gotten more votes than Edgar Lungu with Eastern Province in play.

  60. Let them go to that court, it will still be a failure. A great man, is able to accept any outcome. The people have chosen. The will of God has also been done. Mr. HH you got insane votes from the people of Zambia. I believe you are not called by God to be President, but to be a business man or adviser to a president. Actually Mr. HH , i believe that you really have something to offer this land….Therefore, the more you sit on valuable information and resources that can assist a nation, , the more the presidency door closes on you. As for Mr. Nevers Mumba please go back to the PULPIT. WHAT MORE SIGNS DO YOU NEED.?

    To most of the Lozis in the Western Provident, i must say , you truly a very UNGRATEFUL, Who in the history of Zambia has managed to build you roads, university(s)…

    • Don’t insult the Lozi. Lungu has not built anything for anyone in Zambia. Tell me how much of his personal money he has spent in Bulozi. Zip. Any government spends money that we the people contribute forcefully through taxes.

      As for HH, its Zambia that needs his service than the other way round. I know him personally and he is already well to do. Much more than you will ever become 50 life times over.

  61. It is sad that we have made it look like the battle was between “good” and “evil”. The battle should be between “good” and “good” to decide who is better.

    Sadly, the comments show that Zambia seems to be far from mature. Still wallowing deep in primal waters of blind hatred, tribalism and so on.

    I congratulate ECL for the victory. I also congratulate HH for doing so well in a Game which was stacked heavily against him (Negative attacks from public media, etc).

  62. Even when Zambia lost Africa cup in 1994 to Nigeria,we received complaints from our team including that we did not pack bags of mealie meal and kapenta for them on the plain and so they lost because of lack of energy to play.

    Let us all avoid complaints and move forward regardless of political affiliation.Zambia is ONE so let us unite and work to develope zambia and not political parties because political paties come and go but zambia will remain.

    I LOVE YOU ALL- UPND,FDD,PF,PAC….ETC

  63. I will read mature comments only. Those calling people names because of elections are mostly from questionable backgrounds, where mother and father did not do their jobs properly

  64. Weak souls are busy insulting HH. Just argue as if there is a brain between your two ears. Assuming there was no brain, at least pretend its there. HH and ECL are both sons of Zambia, and their opinions must be respected, not matter our POLITICAL differences. These are just political differences,It should not be a matter of life and death, Osatukwana amambara, nizaku kwapulani ngati musobela shaaa

  65. BREAKING NEWS!!!

    President elect did not constitutionally qualify to be winner. There is information circulating that The ECZ errored in declaring him winner when he only attained 49.2% of the toal VALID votes. The ECZ used a wrong figure which included spoiled ballots to calculate the percentage.

    Suffice to say if you visit the new constitution website, 50+1 is based on the total VALID votes cast. I hope the Constitutional Court will look at the matter in that regard too.

    • @Abene, your argument does not make sense. You’re saying that the percentage of the votes cast for a candidate reduces if the total number of votes reduces to include only valid votes? Have you actually done the math? The relationship is supposed to be inverse & not converse. The base # is indeed VALID votes but you’re using the wrong principle. Total valid votes is 3,695,710 & President got 1,860,877. Try the math again sir & you’ll find ECZ is accurate.

  66. That’s the problem with a lot of Zambians – and that is why you have Lungu as President. Simply wanting to exist in mediocrity. The UPND has a right to take a matter to court where it deems fit and justifiable. Why should people be so dismissive of those who want to ensure process and the respect of law are followed? You speak of democracy and shout from the top of mountains about respecting the Constitution. Yet, because you want to protect what you have benefited from Lungu, you choose to deride others and turn a blind eye to glaring injustices – essentially pushing the country to further primitive politics and a dire future for our children. Grow up and be objective!

    • These UPND are shameless failures who flip flop on anything. You lost in Lusaka hands down baba. You were asking ECZ to expedite release of results and when you saw you were loosing you changed the request again to recount.

      You guys learn to accept defeat

  67. My comments yesterday are vindicated again today. If this commentary board is anything to go by, no wonder Zambia continues to be in this mess. Are people so obessed with their political affiliations that they fail to realise that they are firstly Zambians. It does not take a genious to know that these elections where rigged. If ballots can be found in the bin and then accepted by the ECZ as valid and added to a political party, the question is what else happened. It is our right as citizens to have free and fair elections regardless of who wins. Just look at South Africa, the IEC is so independent that when results are released they is no cry of fraud (That might change now that those in power are losing), that is what we need in Zambia. If we as Zambians continue to allow those in power…

  68. Laso ni mbuzi. Grow up and start respecting divergent views. Even for HH to go to court is deemed an offence,what is wrong with this country kanshi. He has every Right please. What is difficult?

  69. Those riots going on in southern province simply show that people did not vote for quality leadership. They voted on tribal lines. Somehow this is the kind of situation that brought about genocide in Rwanda. I say Congrats Edgar Lungu and to HH I say it is not over till God himself says it is over.

  70. Nyekese, if it is true that they included invalid votes, then the % should go up if they remove them since the divisor will now be lower.

  71. Please next time let’s not use Dundumwezi formula and water melon campaign. one zambia one nation. It’s a lesson to all zambians. P.F and UPND lets shake hands. We are all one.

  72. Smiley, suffice to say total VALID votes were 3,781,505 representing 100%. Out of this Lungu polled 1,860,877 representing 49.2%, HH polled 1,781,505 representing 46.55% and remainder goes to the rest. This calculation does not include spoiled votes which is the right computation as per constitutional requirement.

    Hope the Con Court will look at this and consider a possible re-run.

  73. BEHOLD THE LOSING
    ==================
    The sooner it sinks in your thick skulls that you have lost this one too, the better and the earlier you prepare your violent goons to come to terms with reality and facts on the ground. Get over it and advise your goons to get civil. There is life after any loss.

  74. HH and UPND, when the wind of change knocks on the door, no one can stop it. Who is ECL to stop a revolution? Pause and think what happened to KK in 1991, could anyone stop change? It was a tsunami; it was not even possible to think about rigging. History repeated itself 20 years later when again in 2011 a tsunami swept RB and MMD out of power. There was no starting point for rigging, a landslide victory is a hallmark of a revolution and is not possible to rig. When a revolution arrives, it does not happen in 3 provinces only, it extends from Chavuma to Chadiza and Sesheke to Mwenzo, all corners of Zambia. Let’s just go back to the drawing board and prepare for a revolution in 2021.

  75. @ Gildmak Mutelo,. with all due respect, am not insulting the Lozis, am expressing my sadness, and for your own information am also LOZI, But i voted for PF because i have seen the development in our province.Yes we all know that its not Mr.Lungu’s personal money that built the bridges,roads ,university(s) or any other facilities. But Mr.Lungu facilitated the development. Most former presidents never paid attention to the Western province, now we know why.(LACK OF GRATITUDE) .There is a difference between STANDING FOR YOUR SECESSION (ISOLATION RIGHTS) AND GRATITUDE OR HATE. The voting was not fair , they should have voted fairly not basing it on TRIBAL FAVOURS. ANYWAY THE WILL OF GOD HAS PREVAILED AND IT CANNOT BE REVERSED. NOT ALL LOZIS ARE BAD HEARTED OR UNGRATEFUL.

  76. There is a claim that the ECZ website is down due to maintenance being carried out. In the meantime, a re-calculation of the final tally of VALID votes cast, as given by the ECZ itself, shows that Lungu obtained 49.21%. Does the shutting down of the site have anything to do with this? Some vote searches or re-calculations going on behind the scenes? I can’t help being cynical as these elections, for all intent and purposes have been a farce.

    • Blah! Blah! Blah! Being illogical seems to be a prerequisite requirement for every UPND supporter. How do you think that UPND won in Lusaka and therefore won the presidency when they dont even have one MP in Lusaka? If that is the case, then the likes of Charlotte and Mulenga Sata would have won convincingly in the areas that they stood unless of course you are also going to claim that their votes were stolen?

    • Blah! Blah! Blah! Being illogical seems to be a prerequisite requirement for every UPND supporter. How do you think that UPND won in Lusaka and therefore won the presidency when they dont even have one MP in Lusaka? If that is the case, then the likes of Charlotte and Mulenga Sata would have won convincingly in the areas that they stood unless of course you are also going to claim that their votes were stolen?

      Yes ECZ made errors in their calculations ONLY in areas where PF won, where UPND won with wide margins then the same ECZ was somehow a very efficient and trustworthy organisation!

  77. The votes were as follows according to the announcement by ECZ:

    Edgar Lungu – 1860877 ( 50.35%) , HH – 1760347 ( 47.63%), Edith Nawakwi – 24149 (0.66%), Banda Adford – 15791(0.42%), Winter Kabimba – 9504(0.26%), Saviour Chishimba – 9221(0.25%), Tilyenji Kaunda – 8928(0.24%), Peter Sinkamba – 4515 (0.12%), Maxwell Mwamba – 2378 ( 0.07%)
    Total Valid Votes – 3,695,710.

  78. The Confedracy of Duences/Dullards at it AGAIN. Are we to question our own recollections of events? When a man can’t trust his own thought processes and how he came to them, then usually a specialist doctor of the mind is called in.

    Mr HH, we remember accurately that you DEMANDED the immediate release of Lusaka Count and questioned the delay (in your inimitable manner…did suggest ‘Rigging’ was cause of delay). Once ECZ ‘obeyed’ your order to release, you then now cry foul, because possibly a recount was necessary. But if ‘you’s the man that complained of the delay, which had us all on tents hooks, why are you now questioning the lack if extra time to recount etc? So the delay was justified after all! Learn to Breath before emitting or you will pass out blue in the face!…

    • Is it dunces having us on tenterhooks? Never mind, we are fed up of HH’s lack of Grace under Fire. LUNGU won fair and square. HH exhibits bad character at every turning, and that is why he loses time and again. He lacks integrity, and honour. He can’t cut Leadership! Period.

  79. HE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PETITION THE RESULTS. IN PSYCHOLOGY, EVERY BEHAVIOR IS CAUSED. SO MANY EVENTS HAVE HAPPENED SUCH THAT EVEN SOME OF US WHO HAD DOUBTS BEGAN THINKING OTHERWISE. TO START WITH, DID WE NEED TO SPEND TAX PAYERS MONEY ON ISRAELIS CONSULTANTS (TIMO), DID WE NEED TO PRINT BALLOTS FROM DUBAI AT THREE TIMES NORMAL COST? WHAT WERE UGANDANS DOING IN ZAMBIA AT THE TIME OF ELECTIONS? IT WAS RUMORED THAT M7 WAS HELPING MAP THE RIGGING STRATEGY, JUST WERE PEOPLE CONCERNS, THATS WHERE EC WENT FOR THREE TIMES. WHAT WAS IN THE UNITED ARAB EMIRATES? FROM THE TIME I STARTED VOTING, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAW THE WORST ABUSE OF PUBLIC MEDIA. THESE AND MANY MORE OTHERS PUT TOGETHER ARE THE CAUSES OF OTHER PEOPLE’S BEHAVIOR NOW.

    • He has a write that President Lungu ensured he gets it by accenting to the Constitution HH objected to. Hahahahahah the guy is really under five!

  80. PF probably lost this election! But they managed to now try and make UpND sound like bad losers knowing Zambians rather than fight politically for justice will give up. Let the protest take it’s course and stop encourging coruption Zambia, otherwise you will go on being robbed all your lives.

    On top of this the only party i see bringing fears of tribalism is PF. They playing Zambians good nature against itself. Give credit to HH for standing strong, that is the way, in this day and age it doesn’t matter US, UK, Zambia sure you can be robbed by powerful corporate/political forces. Use your rights and your judicial systems and gain justice for Zambias future. Show them you will not be manipulated.

  81. I feel sorry for my brother HH to have failed to win because of crooks GBM, masebo and Opusa. HH please, withdraw the case because when the Highest court asks for the fake qualifications of GBM, you will lose more, even your personal value will disappear. 5 years is near. Ifwakutintilila filaputuka. Make my words. Congratulate our Pres and move on.

  82. Kikikikikiki……..serious agony in upnd camp! Indeed there is proper gnashing of teeth and asses! kikikikikiki…ba hechi hechi banyela uku ichisushi…..GBM nao apwekwila uku……Ba Canisius nabo bashulila uko! Come on guys, you are polluting the air! Lekeni Lungu ateke!

  83. ECZ needs to employ educated Zambians who can do simple grade 12 mathematical calculations in percentages. ECZ have shut their website after announcing wrong figures that declared Lungu a president (?).
    Please help me with this ECL scored this 1,860,877 and HH scored 1,760,347 total number of votes cast 3,781,505 in percentage terms ECL 49.21% and HH 46.55% what’s meaning of 50% plus 1 was not attained.
    Democracy is an ugly animal but must be obeyed by all. Lungu did not win this election. Will see if the constitutional court has any balls to show or are under the powerful influence of the president. I for one dont care who wins as long as long the law we have is followed.

    • TAKE INTO ACCOUNT VALID VOTES ONLY, THUS WHAT WAS SHARED AND THUS WHAT COUNTS.A REJECT IS OF EFFECT, BUT AN INDICATED OF THE NEED FOR VOTER EDUCATION. GET IT?

  84. CAN THIS MAN ONE, HAKAINDE HICHILEMA, REALLY WIN IF WE WENT FOR A RE-RUN? Why cant he read the mood of the people and move on with life? Sometimes it pays to get over issues silently.

    ANYWAY, I UNDERSTAND AND FEEL FOR HIM, ITS NOT EASY TO HANDLE A LOSS, BUT IT HAPPENS IN LIFE. SO MOVE ON MY FRIEND ITS NOT FOR YOU.

  85. HH messed up the time he substituted the poor humble cannicius Banda for a Rich violent stupid GBM. Ba HH twalyumfwa ati ba anglo balimikongwesha indalama ishingi so that ngamwaliwina mwali nokubapela a lot of favours. we don’t work like that in Zambia. Guy scott, GBM, Miles Sampa, Mulenga Sata have hatred and the Zambians have taught them a lesson. I expect HH to concentrate on unting his supporters and condem tribal voting. Going to court SO WHAT? AND WHAT IF THE COURT RULES IN FAVOUR OF LUNGU? What will be the next step

  86. The zambian pipo are not stupid or idol, let me tell you ba UPND those that are bitter even now, Nangu kupata ba PF honestly that graph surely showed you kapatulula, nangu chipuba or ishilu can see that. UPND will only progress if a new president is appointed and all those puppets gone. Be nevers mumba naimwe go and spread the gospel to the world, you cannot serve two masters.. so you’re saying that you have quit your mnistry? I feel sad that even my close Tonga friends have insulted, cursed and hated PF. But bakalaya ku church mukwimba and pray to the same God. Please do not mock God mwebantu. These are just politics, Even if HH won you were going to find faults in him. we should appriciate what zambia have, we are rch am telling you. Please travel to other African countries and see for…

  87. Faces of defeat and desperation! Well, the money has gone down the drain! If someone was thinking of recouping it from the Zambian Treasurer, it won’t happen! You already have gotten much from our privatized companies, and you will not now! The tribal party will never be voted in, in Zambia!

  88. All Zambians know how this tribe acts when they are in offices, and none can want to see that happen if State House has Hazalusa Hagain! Check your offices again guys and you will all know why this guy WILL NEVER be voted in!

  89. Let’s face it, the PF and its leader ECL do not provide the best hope to get Zambia out of the social and economic mess we find ourselves in and as such this victory of numbers is not a victory of success and is to taken soberly because the weight of expectation on the part of electorate that is becoming increasingly enlightened and demanding is very huge. That my friends to a larger extent also explains why a number of well known ministers have tumbled in these elections. In that light, PF needs to do a lot of soul searching and correct many of the foolish mistakes it has made in the last five years particularly regarding the increased levels of lawlessness in the country. That said l do not think this UPND leadership is in anyway the answer to Zambia’s problems — and that my friends…

  90. is in large measure because of the egostic posture of its leader Hikainde Hichilema that he alone has this sole and God given right to rule Zambia. That right my friends — in light of the broad provisions of God — is the right to hire and fire the leader of their choice and that right belongs to the Zambian people. Accordingly; in these elections the Zambian people have exercised their unassailable right not fire Edgar and in that respect chosen not to hire Hikainde. There is no need for anyone to insult anyone using all sorts of unpalatables including calling people illiterates. The art of any good politics requires that any good politicians that offer themselves for public office must convince both the literate and illiterates, informed and uninformed alike. That my friends is the…

  91. ” The will of the people”. Which people HH? You mean the will of tonga voters? But they are not the majority HH? The election was about the will of the majority accordingbto the laws of Zambia.? So how could thw minority ever win an election without working with the seven other provinces to come up with a majority vote?

  92. UPND you lost a battle but not the war. HH pick up the pieces and fight on. Light is at the end of the tunnel. Zambia forward…..

  93. HH is going to make his lawyer Mushipi very rich because that woman will increase the fees by the time the case will be conclude she would have gotten half of HH wealth.That beaultful woman is like a rhino.

  94. Imwe Bakaponya you keep stealing HH votes because you have plundered government coffers.HH won elections even in 2015 January, but you are experts in stealing votes. You have been schooled by Muse 7 and Gabrei who does not want to leave power due to selfishness and because he has stolen too. Nothing stays forever guys. Nakanyelele kalasuma Ati Efyonchinta lyonse tabuchela mumo bane.

  95. Ba UPND you are hypocrites. Surely you are not even ashamed to talk of a constitutional court. You used to insult President Lungu for this Court. You used to mock the PF for this constitution.

    Please learn to have long term view. Learn to work for national interests and not Dundumwezi interests. Imagine we didn’t have such a constitution? You chaps would be have ben dead and buried as far as elections are concerned.

  96. If petion is going to be based on Lusaka votes the UPND
    Is waiting our time Becoz the mayoral results also corresponds
    With the presidential votes especially if you consider that the
    Voters who voted for ECL also voted for a PF mayor!!

    Then if you say irigging took place then
    1. The rigged vote is twice the number claimed by HH e.g now to be h’150,000 votes..??
    2.how do physically hide that many ballots from so many party agents and observers??
    3. why has Maureen coneeded loss??

    Therefore USA thru Jimmy Carter congratulated ECL.
    Con Court is not the answer but conceed and move on
    Act like Sata did and save yourself and the country

  97. HH has achieved what Anderson Kambela Mazoka failed to achieve; that is to get over 50 MPs. He put up a spirited campaign but the Zambian people did not trust him enough with power. There are several reasons but those will be discussed in another forum on another day. In a tightly contested election, it is unnecessary for HH to go court and begin opening wounds which are healing. For ALL the elections Sata lost between 2001 – 2008, he never contested them in a court of law. General Miyanda contested every case. Sata went right back to campaign, mobilise and strategize and it all paid back in 2011.

  98. the will of the people was turned up side down,majority of zambians Voted for hh.people spoke through barot papers bt Ba ecz dd not read what zambian said through barot papers.Mutivutisa! U are giving us another five years in poverty y? Majority f us voted for meat bt u gave us ocra,we voted for spinatch bt mutipasa VIKANUNKA! my apeal to all zambian,you shudnt be deceived by leader who only practice development during campains! Those who r saying lungu won these election, jst wait u ll see it for yoselvelvesveelyoseeyoselvelvesveelyolyoselvelvesveelyoseeyoseeseyoselvelvesveelyoseeyoselvelvesveyoselvelvesveelyoseeyoselvelvesveelyolyoselvelvesveelyoseeyoseeseyoselvelvesveelyoseeyoselve

  99. What happens when you shun prayers? Is as good as failing to repent. Go back to God. God is the owner of all the pipo who voted. God wants his pipo to be ruled by leaders who present petitions to him. HH refused to ask to God through national prayers before elections. Did HH expect God’s pipo to vote for him? NO .

  100. IT all the same ,it will remain the same . you UPND I can guarantee your lose again and i hope the court looks into you closet pretty carefully.the is a lot of dirt involving elections and which land an ordinary person a life in prison but for now we need your money,you can bring it on with your petition.
    people realize this, the UPND is hiding under the confusion they are making just to avoid there pending crime.instead they man up and be responsible they are trying to drag zambia with them.if it were me i could lock them up right away before the worst to happen. guys you are wasting time talking to these guys.they have buried there ears in the sand and no matter how you try to explain to them they wont listen.just lock them up.
    I TELL YOU THE TRUTH THEY KNOW ONCE THEY STOP WHAT THEY…

  101. LETS US UNITE AND BE PROUD OF OUR COUNTRY ZAMBIA.LETS US NOT TAKE OUR FREEDOM FOR GRANTED.THESE POLITICIAN WILL GO BUT OUR COUNTRY WILL REMAIN.LET US NOT BE REMEMBER AS THE GENERATION THAT TOOK ZAMBIA TO THE GRAVE.
    LET THEM FIGHT THERE OWN BATTLE,THEY ARE MEN NOT CHILDREN AND YOU CAUSING VIOLENCE IS NOT A BRIGHT THING.AND PLEASE PIPO STOP INSULTING PRESIDENTS.
    LIKE I SAID EARLIER. SOME OF THESE GUYS ARE JUST ESCAPING THERE MISCONDUCT AND IF YOU ARE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO FOLLOW THEM ,YOU WILL END UP IN TROUBLE AND I TELL YOU THESE IT WILL FOUND.JUST OBSERVE THEM AND YOU WILL SEE

  102. CAN SOMEONE TELL ME IF THE COURT CASE IN COPPERBUILT INVOLVING OUR FRIEND IN THE UPND HAS BEEN RESOLVED,FOR WHICH THEY WERE ADJANNED FOR UNTIL THE END OF ELECTION.IF NOT THEAN UNDERSTAND MY POINT HERE.
    THESE GUYS,I REPEAT THESE GUYS ARE USING AN ELEMENT OF CONFUSION TO HIDE FROM THERE CONVICTION WHICH IS PENDING.INSTEAD THEY SHOULD HIRE LAWYERS TO HELP THEM WITH THESE CASES THEY ARE WASTING RESOURCES WITH THE HOPE OF CONFUSING EVERYBODY.SO THAT IN THE EVENT THESE CASES IMMERGE THEY WILL ACCUSE THE GOVERNMENT OF TRYING TO SILENT THEM.STOP LISTEN TO THEM.IF THEY HAD CONCRETE EVIDENCE AND NOT SOME FABRICATED LIES THEY COULD HAVE PETITION JUST AFTER THE ELECTION NOW THEY DONT SO THEY TRYING TO CONFUSE YOU.
    LET THEM FACE THERE STAFFS.PLEASE STOP NINSULTING PRESIDENTS WHETHER PF OR UPND..

  103. My brother leave them you have tried all the avenues, for now leave it to G.O.D. He will fight for you. You genuinely wanted to serve the people of Zambia but thieves stole pipo’s votes the truth will set you free. God’s time is the best. There are consequences to every sin committed they may think that they are clever but not when God can see everything on this earth.

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