President Edgar Lungu has said that there is no need for confusion between the church and political leaders. President Lungu said that the Church and political leaders have different roles although they serve the same people.
The President has since called on the church to pray for all political leaders to enable them execute their duties diligently. The president said that government will continue to work with the church in improving the well being of the Zambian people.
The head of state was speaking during a fundraising prayer breakfast for St. Bonaventure University College to mark the 25th anniversary of the university.
The president said government values the contribution the church is making to improve the lives of Zambians.
President Lungu who pledged one hundred thousand United States dollars to the university for the next SIX months said the Catholic Church has shown commitment in improving the lives of the people through provision of educational and medical services to the vulnerable. The head of said that him and the First Lady are passionate about helping the under privileged in society.
And St Bonaventure director Donasian Mbuya said the university needs to raise 8 million kwacha to construct a multipurpose hall and extra class room blocks to accommodate other faculties the university plans to introduce. Reverend Father Mbuya also said the church is working at empowering and encouraging women.
Meanwhile, Father Elliot Ngosa commended president Lungu for exhibiting his Christian faith and leading the country in an exemplary manner. The United Church of Zambia (UCZ) in Luapula Province has pledged to work with the Patriotic Front Government in promoting national unity.
UCZ Luapula Presbytery Secretary Reverend Moses Zgambo made the pledge during a special fundraising Church Service for the construction of the house for the resident Reverend at St. Luke’s Congregation in Mansa.
Reverend Zgambo disclosed that it is the policy of the United Church of Zambia to work with the Government of the day. He said the Church is happy with the Patriotic Front Government’s commitment to the revival of the ‘One Zambia, One Nation’ spirit because it unites the people and the country.
And Luapula Province Minister Nickson Chilangwa who was the Guest of honour at the event reiterated Government’s commitment to working with the Church in addressing social economic challenges of the people in the Province.
Mr. Chilangwa in a speech read on his behalf by Provincial Assistant Secretary Paul Mulola said Government appreciates the role the Church plays in the provision of services in areas of education, health, social justice and good governance.
He said Government has upheld the declaration of Zambia as a Christian Nation and wants to work with the Church in enhancing the social and economic development of the Country.
Sayth the drunk….whetever he has drunk this time around
The Catholic Church particularly is the only church that parctices the gospel it preaches, atleast leaving out those child molesters that soiled it all over the world…Hospitals, Schools, Relief Aid on top of solace to those who believe
He is a con and is known to utter what he doesn’t live by himself this guy is a fraud. Tell me what he has said and followed through. Only the gullible or those that chew with him buy into his stories. Zambia will never progress in real terms with fellas like him at the helm…..
As our head of state, kindly keep building bridges with open doors for constructive criticism and dialogue with all citizens and stakeholders. That is the heartbeat of success and sustainable peace in a plural system. Beware of hardliners if exhibiting reactionary decisions. Never forget the fact that the buckle or “Politics stops at the water’s edge,” as captured in the wisdom of Republican Senator Arthur Vandenberg about 1947. We love you and want your presidency to be a memorable successful Presidency. Restraint is not weakness but leadership strength. You have a ruling mandate a fact no imagination can take away from our national history.
For once can we give the President a benefit of the doubt.
He knows what he is talking about. He was elected democratically by all of you.
Give him a job and mandate you voted him to do
Thanks
BB2014,2016
Thats all Lazy knows bribing…he has no other trick in his book. Where is he getting that money?
Eee zona ni leadership made simple. What a terrible embarrassment this Edgar man is. It will forever be a haunting blot or blemish on our generation that we allowed such a clueless person like this man to become president.
@ 1.1 Rainman & the Magna Carta: I make it Rain on command.
You are a typical UPND.
1) You say, “The Catholic are the only ones following what they teach” because they are in support of HH.
2) HH said only two of the five ConCourt judges were grnuine because they supported him. The others he called thugs.
3) The purooted USA Senator is the only one who is saying the right things and they celebrated because he is supporting HH.
4) The USA ambassador said he was concerned about the situation and the events of HH’s arrest. The UPND commended him and celebrated.
5) The British High Commissioner stated matters as factually as they are. The UPND are saying diplomats have no right to comment on our matters.
Kekekekekke at I “Leadership made Simple”.
Confusion is in PF.
THE CATHOLICS HAVE RULES AND LAWS WITHIN THEIR CIRCLES TOO! – THEY MUST NOT PLAY DOUBLE STANDARDS.
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Rule Ts&Cs Apply.
When Arch Bishop Milingo decided to marry, he broke the Catholic LAWS. Ts & Cs applied after verification and validation. The Bishop got himself ex-communicated. What could have happened if the Church did not act? Chaos right? If the Alta Boy (Kampenga) impregnates a church girl, Catholic Statutes are used to pump some sense in that boy, too! What will happen to a sinner after Judgement? Simple, HH crossed the line and so we shall let the due process of the law to take it’s course. Bishop Mpundu just got excited here. He is playing double standards. Truth hates but I am blaming the Bishop for not speaking against HH latest behavior post…
When the PF supporters and the church come to know EL and what he truly is, It will be too late, Get it from me EL is a fake and evil.
Cont’d
…August 2016 polls; for not engaging ECL and HH but rushing to the media.
Saying one thing and doing the other. Prayers for a leader only to brutalize the opposition
G00gle photos of Pope blessing Hitler (as he slaughtered Jews)?
Free HH
Free Mwaliteta
Free all political prisoners
Iwe @Advice, I really don’t mind your sentiments from numbers 1 to 4 but number 5! Everyone in Zambia including children and dunces like you, know that its President Edgar Chagwa Lungu who gave a sweeping DIRECTIVE not only to DIPLOMATS BUT ALSO TO HIS MINISTERS TO STOP COMMENTING ON HH’S CASE AND NOT THE UPND! Are you a real person or you are a COMPUTER fed data by FRANK BWALYA OR SUNDAY CHANDA TO CONFUSE THE HONOURABLE READERS?
@ 1.14 sinono,
I was trying to follow your comment to pick something.
You have said literary nothing. You mind tells you Lungu is in charge of diplomats, whatever he says they follow????
Your thinking has contributed to the underdevelopment African countries have been experiencing.
How can he afford to smile?
Hypocrisy of the highest order!. You claim uphold christianity and yet you are arresting others on trumped up charges.
God will surely punish you very soon.
Release HH now.
You can never buy the Catholic Church nor pretend to be one when you are not Catholic find out what it takes to become one Mr President Lungu.
…not like what hh did with that seven days church. ati ” he is an elder”. mwe bantu imwe! hh an elder in church? with that kind of pride, arrogance, greedy, lies, selfishness, etc. infact he exhibits all the seven deadly sins listed in Galatians.
if the seven days church is real, they would have admonished him, counseled him, schooled him and natured him into a God fearing citizen with upright morals.
awe ba sda naimwe, not ifi………..
Are you sure? How do you think the church survives…best you do your research about its history!!
@2.2 Jay Jay
A cardinal question indeed. I concur.
Confusion comes when you have Satamic Free Massons roaming around. This time around chief Masson Kaponya (HH) has been clamped so we expect piece to reign. Long live ECL.
Lungu, Lungu , Lungu! How many times did I call you?
Lungu is a hypocrite and a moslem. Just look to the opposite of whatever he says.
ECL is a very good president of Zambia.
Haters can hate him but he is the choisen one for mother Zambia!!
Keep on working hard Mr President and job well done for pledging US$ 100 000 in next 6 months to this University.i know UPND will condemn you for that because their greedy but rich HH do not share with the poor or those in need.God blesses the hand that gives.You will be called names for that $100 000 donation but never mind them.
God bless you always sir!!
Is that donation from his personal account or from tax payers, if it is from tax payers has it been budgeted for ??
Was Mr Freedom Sikazwe admiring the pic or His exellence imwe ba LT
Look at these kaponyas , clapping and dancing when lungu gives out money that is unaccounted for , on the other hand he is running to the IMF and taxing zambians mercilessly.
@Spaka like lilo:you think $100 000 is money to a president?dream on.he
wont even use tax payers money as he has a lot of well wishers who give him presents too which he intends to share with the poor in next 6 months.NOTHING LIKE THIS COMES FROM HH.ASK ANYBODY IN UPND,THEY WILL TELL YOU.HH IS VERY GREEDY.ITS ONLY GBM WHO GIVES MONEY IN UPND TODAY!!
I knew it that even IMF issue will come in from dull UPND cadres-amazing!!yours is a cursed party spaka like lilo!!
@ Njimbu, really, the man had no money not too long ago and now he can dish out $100, 000, where did this money come from?? it is this lack of scrutiny that allows politicians to continue plundering the nation. you clearly know that this money belongs to Zambians, but of course its is fraudulently acquired and made to appear as though he is being charitable, please
“..you think $100 000 is money to a president…”
This is a man who came broke and is actually begging the IMF for a bail out…
You PF kaponyas and your leaders steal without shame and think that is normal.
Ati ” he has a lot of well wishes ” ? Are you for real…..that is corrupt. I am glad you openly admit corruption with lungu….
mypoint – I thought Njimbu has just told you that as President there are a lot of well wishers? Why is it so difficult to understand?
@One Zambia that is what the late FTJ used say until we found out it was taxpayer money. Let your Lungu disclose the source of the funds
@Njimbu, did i hear that part of this money is what was stolen from HH’s house when it was robbed by the Police on the night of 10th April, 2017?
LAZY’s salary is about $60,000 and you say $100,000 is nothing…why should well wishers be giving the president cash? Corruption has become the norm to you people…
Politicians are deceitful and manipulative. They do this without shame! They should leave the church alone. While politicians represent wickedness, especially under PF, the church stands for the downtrodden!
All dictators especially illegal ones cultivate a cult of personality. Look how many posters of this rat there is around Zambia. He loves and cares for himself only . Look at the picture of him and he is holding a picture of himself. What a self absorbed obnoxious freak he is.
@10, you are right. Personally i thought the campaign period was over but when you take a drive along the streets of Lusaka and probably other towns, you’ll see a lot of PF chitenges and President Lungu’s photos hanging as flags and whatever! And most of this paraphenalia is new! What does this mean, for God’s sake? I thought an order was issued by the respective councils around the country to have campaign materials brought down forthwith!
their sins will find them out, that is all I have to say
President Lungu is a true democrat who is able to accommodate divergent views in this country. However,criminals should not misconstrue his humility to engage in criminality and then cry loudest when the long arm of the law catches up with them.
Truth; democratic, accept divergent views, are you serious,
“To do justice is to love God” and “to love God is to do justice”. Lungu is a hypocrite and a Sadist and thats why he is persecuting HH and jailing him on Trumped Treason Charges. He is inflicting pain and suffering on HH and other Upnd inmates.Mwaliteta Lungu’s former Minister is languishing in jail for the last 9 months on trumped up aggravated Robbery charges. Lungu sent 500 Policemen and 50 Soldiers to Raid HH’s home,ransacked it,robbed money,food and assets,teargased the occupants etc. These invaders were never charged with Aggravated Robbery. Lungu is not a Christian. He is a callous Dictator and a Devil Incarnate. Christians for Lungu should be ashamed of Lungu’s Barbarism and Cruelity.
@Rain…bluh, bluh! I am not surprised? The Catholic – a church? Where do you get your news? I am not surprised your hearts are full of hate like Hazaluz Hagain and the rest of the crew here from Namwala!
This is all Lazy does bribing and corruption …this why he insist on closed door meetings as he simply pays people off with taxpayer’s money!!
“President Lungu who pledged one hundred thousand United States dollars to the university for the next SIX months said the Catholic Church has shown commitment in improving the lives of the people through provision of educational and medical services to the vulnerable. The head of said that him and the First Lady are passionate about helping the under privileged in society.”
Lazy and his Chawama passionate about handing out cash from GRZ coffers than the hardwork of policy creation.
@Spaka like lilo:lets face it.HH is being carried in a police van and sleeping on a floor in chimbokaila now despite all the monies he has,because he wants to start controlling tax payers money if he wins.
ECL and many others in Govnt had almost nothing but today they are well to do people because they have worked for that money.IF IT WAS NOT FOR MONEY,HH CANT BE FIGHTING FOR THE PRESIDENCY DAY AND NIGHT.SO GO CHEAT YOUR MBUYA IN BWEENGWA AND NOT ME!!
nobody is talking about corruption here.that is another issue.the fact is there are a lot of oppotunities for those in a corridor of power.money rains there dear!!
Given a chance of working near ECL or the presidency,i will equally work hard and earn enough money then start sharing it with the poor!!!
You are ever online…
@ 1.1 Rainman & the Magna Carta: I make it Rain on command.
You are a typical UPND.
1) You say, “The Catholic are the only ones following what they teach” because they are in support of HH.
2) HH said only two of the five ConCourt judges were grnuine because they supported him. The others he called thugs.
3) The purooted USA Senator is the only one who is saying the right things and they celebrated because he is supporting HH.
4) The USA ambassador said he was concerned about the situation and the events of HH’s arrest. The UPND commended him and celebrated.
5) The British High Commissioner stated matters as factually as they are. The UPND are saying diplomats have no right to comment on our matters.
Continue……
You(spaka) are ever online marketing UNVOTABLE HH because you hope that if he wins,he can give you a job in Govnt and make money.
SO LEAVE ECL ALONE.”SELENI ECL ABOMBEKO”,YOU PRETENDERS IN UPND!!!
We all work hard to make money.but you in upnd want to pretend as if HH would be working for free if he won.WHO IN ZAMBIA DOESNT KNOW HOW HH GOT RICH?ITS A MAJOR THING WHICH MAKE MANY ZAMBIANS NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM-SALE OF ZCCM AND OTHER GOVNT FIRMS!!He corruptly got money from these sales and YOU WANT TO MAKE HH LOOK LIKE A SAINT TODAY?PLEASE GIVE US A BREAK!!
@Njimbu. You chaps how uneducated or unprincipled are you? You statement are illogical and lack facts. HH makes more than the president. If he became president that is a small portion of what he makes now. Lungu on other hand has no success before politics and financially depends on politics. Lets scrap out the presidential salary and any allowances until the country becomes profitable. Further let all sources of funding be disclosed and how money has been spent.
Njimbu well said it only goes to show how short sighted or myopic these UPND supporters are in short they are happy with HH’S corruption and are not ready to call it what it is.Shame on them for your own information the tears of the defenceless mine workers who suffered quietly are now haunting him he will not see peace until he repents.
@MPUNDUmoney:thanks my brother.
UPND think many Zambians are dull like them.had it not been for the love of money,HH cannot be in Chimbokaila today.he has been fighting ECL daily while hoping that the courts will give him the presidency for him to become the Aliko Dangote of Zambia!!HH’s desperation for money is what made commit a treason offence in Mongu!!!
Spaka like lilo:GIVEN A CHANCE TO WORK FOR ECL OR GET A CONTRACT FROM MY PF GOVNT-I WILL RECEIVE IT WITH BOTH HANDS AS WE ALL WANT TO BECOME WELL OFF IN LIFE!!God says”ask and you will be given,seek and you will find”.if any senior Govnt official follows my post about my love for PF,they can reward me!!!
To me voting is never a secret.If I will be there on 11/08/2021,I will 100% vote for PF together with all my family…
Continue…….
If I will be there on 11/08/2021, I will 100% vote for PF together with all my family members,wife,many church mates,close friends,etc because we are very happy with PF’s splendid works since 2011.
Dreamers in UPND are free to vote for UNVOTABLE HH(if he wont be convicted) as well since we are in a democracy,but they must know that PF will 100% retain power in 2021 because it has a huge support especially in 6.5 provinces!!!
MAY THE ALMIGHTY GOD CONTINUE BLESSING MOTHER ZAMBIA AND PRESIDENT EDGAR LUNGU!!GO PF GO!!
But but but Bwana Lungu there’s plenty of confusion between your PF party and the Zambian PFolice.
Look at these theives now openly celebrating corruption.. ….first they tried to sell the arrests of membe and HH as criminal issues and were unmasked to show pure political prosecutions now they are openly celebrating corruption..
Sad….millions of zambians are struggling for a meal a day and these thieves are cheering each other on….i hope foreign diplomats read these blogs to see what type of people PF are.
To the foreign diplomats if you give these people aid money from your tax payers they loot equal amounts from heavily taxed zambians. Do not waiste any aid money on them.
IMF will just be releasing money for them to steal.
UPNDonkeys are just boring, no sense coming out of their debates, someone please tell me, are they always drunk?
It would be interesting if someone sneaked out a picture of HH in the correctional facility. I hope that HHs correctional facilities can correct him in the next one week before the DPP commits him to the High Court for trial.
Just look at SPAKA LIKE LILO WISHING MOTHER ZAMBIA HELL-amazing!!!
Am pretty sure UPND celebrate whenever they see Zambians suffering.thats why your HH is said to be a satan1st!!!
Soon IMF will give Zambia $1.6 billion loan to shame you in UPND.NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST MOTHER ZAMBIA SHALL PROPER!!!UNDER PF IT WILL BE FAVOUR AFTER FAVOUR WHILE YOUR LAW BREAKER HH DANCE TO HIS MONGU TUNE IN CHIMBOKAILA!!!
Fred M’membe you sing about today is the one he destroyed upnd and HH by calling you bantustans!!
As i respond to your comment,HH is lying on the cold floor in Chimbokaila minus a phone or tv to keep him busy.IF HE NEVER BLOCKED EAGLE ONE IN MONGU,TODAY HH WAS GOING TO BE ENJOYING HIS PRIVATIZATION MONEY AT HOME IN CHALALA!
“……the fact is there are a lot of oppotunities for those in a corridor of power.money rains there dear!!….”
That is money meant to develop Zambia, deserving students can not go to school for want of money, UTH has patients lying on floors and the PF thinks it rains money around lungu….uterly disgusting…..and these are the sort of people debating development in Zambia????.
Njimbu you are one shameless thief. Is that all you can think of ” raining money ”
I really hope foreign diplomats read what see what we are up against.
I am speechless.
God help Zambia.
These Up and Down chaps want to pretend and deceive Zambians like they don’t like money and are just fighting for Zambians….. Total lie ! Their main motive which is making their man to commit crimes against ECL is because they want to go and make money in govt. It’s time for PF now to run the public affairs in Zambia and so give them space… Concentrate on milking your animals next 4 and half years.
Upndonkeys milking matole till 2031….bapusa maningi ba tonga na ngombe zao.
Speak for PF Bwana….not everyone is a shameless thief.
If you and lyngu were born as theifs don’t try to make your self feel better by thinking everyone is a thief…..
I have a lot of faults but one of them is not being a theif…sorry.
Providing Checks on the government of the day is not the job of opposition parties alone! Citizens should always ask probing questions! Our leaders don’t steal in Kwacha terms anymore. They steal in USD terms. We have been through this road with Chiluba but we Africans have been blinded by religion to the point of f00lishness and st.up!dity. We never learn. The president’s annual salary is half a million per year which translates to K41,666 per month. Let us assume he has no PAYE tax. In six months = half a million or $25,000 at the current rate. That should tell you a lot about what goes on behind the scenes!
Correction: 1/4 a million in six months = $25,000
Challenge for this week.
This multiple choice question is for UPND. Please choose answer (a) or (b).
Assuming that HH presidential petition had enough time to hear all the evidence, what in your opinion would have been HH’s percentage of the votes?
a) 49% – 50%
b) 50.05% – 50.1%
It could have been either , but the mere fact that lungu was brave enough to prove he won and didn’t want the thief tag on him would have been good enough for the country.
@28 the Real quest: mathematically, your hypothetical question is irrelevant unless we are given the source of the money that the President has pledged. This is because for the purpose of your question there are a million possible sources. Of course as a UPND cadre, your guess is the only possible answer and everybody must agree with you.
Correction Mr Ivyn the Terrible! Not everyone who thinks differently from you PF cadres is necessarily UPND! Lungu and HH will never be my relatives and the two are not the best models for Zambia! You are right about a “million sources” and that is the problem – the avenue for corruption! When your donation is beyond your legal means, responsible citizens must ask! If we wish to uproot corruption, we must begin to question the source of people’s contributions to church projects! I know churches now accept stolen money as offering. Shame!
Is this $100,000 from money that was stolen from someone’s house recently? Just asking. Is this donation within Chagwa’s legal means – donating your annual salary in six months? It is either his allowances are handsome indeed or I’ll-gotten wealth! Anything is possible for someone who raised his net worth from K2million to K23million in one year! If only he can do the same for the economy but he is too selfish maybe. Just thinking loudly. He is not my relative to care too much!
PF even if you are in GRZ to steal money show some civilty. Dont show off to the world your stealing. It i not only zambians who read these blogs.
Even if it means refraining from passing comments it is better then cheering on looting and corruption
..ati ” it rains money…”
while the majority of zambians are suffering ?? Common guys.
There is so much hate from these posts. You cannot expect to be served by someone else. If you think you have humanly gods, you are wasting time. Just work hard and improve your life. These big names don’t even know you and you are busy debating and insulting each other over their ambitions. Focus on more important things. Keep hate opinions to yourselves. Debate is not bad but only when it is constructive. Exchanging bad words and intellectually teasing one another won’t solve anything. Is this the society we want to build? Let’s put heads together when there is a problem and not injure one another.
@Spaka like lilo:a shameless thief is HH who stole privatization money and not me!!!
Even those diplomats you are asking to read our comments are in Zambia to make money.they came to work here just like those in Govnt are working.nobody works for free.
Money for medicine,beds,and many others are there.why do we love PF?its because they have done extremely well in developing Zambia!!during the first 5 yrs for PF,Zambia was made a construction site.to date various projects are across Zambia are being done.
Spaka,you have forgotten how your HH cried in 2016 when he was told to “SONTA APOWABOMBA”,(point to what you have done)!!!PF WAS POINTING AT VARIOUS PROJECTS WHEREVER THEY WENT FOR CAMPAIGNS!!!so even the same diplomats you are begging to punish Zambia have seen PF’s splendid…
You don’t know what you are talking about..if you think diplomats come to Zambia to steal you are wrong.
And if you think PF is doing so well why is lungu going back to the IMF ??
This all before Zambia even starts paying back the eurobonds.. .
If I was this man I wouldn’t talk or say something about churches because what is doing and his behavior does nt much with will of God
Continue……..
So even the same diplomats you are begging to punish Zambia have seen PF’s splendid works across Zambia.hence,they respond to your evil request.
LOOK JUST BLAME YOURSEVES FOR ASSOCIATING WITH UNVOTABLE HH.UPND IS A REGIONAL PARTY,SO ITS VERY HARD FOR IT TO WIN GENERAL ELECTIONS!!
You will need a miracle to achieve that.the sooner you will believe this fact,the better for your troubled heart because you may die with “SEMBE(IF).join the winning team PF to have peace of mind!!
I don’t necessarily support UPND however I don’t ever support theives.
Ati ” it rains money around lungu ”
From your stance it is clear with that mentality to see where all the money disappears to.
you, Zambia is not a rich country Zambia is begging for a bailout loan, people are struggling for meals.
Your stealing and looting is so entrenched that you want to make zambians think stealing and corruption is a normal way of life……very sad.
Very very sad indeed.
What the president is doing is very mischievous. I wish sata was arrive. As church you can not allow a political leader( president) to misrule this country, for Instance the way keiza Zulu and Amos chanda doing, the issue of Fred Membe, zambian Elections,HH, police force, electoral commission of Zambia, judiciary and the pf carders. can you tell me that Zambia is a Christian nation? God is watching.
What a politician! He speaks the language and smiles like one.
@30.1 The Real quest, I have no quarrel with you if your point is to question the source of donations. But I have not seen any questions at all from you or any UPNDonkey or cadre. What I see are conclusions without basis, and as an intellectual that is exactly my point.
@29.1 Spaka like crying, that is zero marks. If you cannot answer the question correctly then shut up. Next answer please!
Look in your anus.s for the next question…
@40.1 Spaka like crying, checked your an..us no answer. As you know from your culture which contains only insults, even if you insult it does not answer your question.
If you can’t be civil shut up.
he is the one who has brought confusion by buying pentecostal bishops and Christians for Lungu